Terri Schiavo is the woman in the vegetative state who's husband, Michael Schiavo, wishes to euthenize. Her parents wish to keep her alive. The controversy is at the heart of several lawsuits and special legislation in Florida passed to protect Terri.
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Hmmmm, lessee, we've had something like 10 years to make all of these startling discoveries . . And it's one of those "If it's your Ox that's being gored" deals . . .
Her Mom and Dad don't want to pull the plug . . And why should they? They aren't responsible for the Medical Bills . . . . . But, can you Imagine what it does to the man who is? Jeb Bush didn't volunteer any State Support either, I don't believe, when he pushed the bill through the State Legislature to keep her alive.
Love all those Do-Gooders . . . they'll pay for the Lawyers, but not a cent for her support!
And now, we want to prosecute the poor bastard . . Hmmmm, like a pack of Wolves . . .
Posted by: large at February 08, 2005 09:28 AM (VRK2g)
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I vaguely remember you mentioning something about not wanting to dive into conspiracy theories on the Rathergate deal, why swallow this whopper whole?
I have to agree with large, one "expert" (I didn't bother to check his credentials to be fair) says it is his opinion years after the fact that the women "may have been assaulted"? WTF? May have? How about the evidence when she was originally taken to the hospital when she fell ill? Were their ligature marks on her neck to indicate somebody messed with it? WouldnÂ’t the medical staff check a patient who shows up with unexplained symptoms for evidence of foul play?
Why in the eleventh hour is this brought up?
Pretty thin
Posted by: James at February 08, 2005 12:07 PM (rP4OC)
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Hey Rusty, the Scott Peterson case didn't interest you, why this one? Anyway, it's a big deal there in Florida, my brother lives not that far away from the nursing home where Terri lives.
It's a real heartwrenching situation. I could never pull the plug on a loved one, unless I knew they were in severe pain and wanted to die. But, she can't even speak for herself or make decisions, she doesn't even know what's happening to her.
No one has the right to do that to her, as long as she's not suffering, IMHO.
Posted by: Laura at February 08, 2005 02:27 PM (ptOpl)
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The moral to this story is simple......
HAVE A LIVING WILL!!!!!!!!!!! If not, you might have
someone named "JEB" deciding whats best for you.
Posted by: MIGHTY WHITEY at February 08, 2005 08:08 PM (K8hYA)
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I really would like to explain this woman's situation because most people know nothing about euthanasia, brain dead (vegetative state), brain stem death, and all that goes along with being in any of those particular states. I probably understand it and know more about it than most doctors. I even did my thesis in college on euthanasia.
I don't believe there is any plug on Terri unless they had to do it after Governor Bush said to reinstall the feeding tube. She had been off the feeding tube for some time and it was only a matter of time before she died. I believe the governor made the wrong decision and should have stayed out of it when, finally, after 10 years in this state, they allowed the husband and rehab hospital could remove the
tube.
REMEMBER KAREN ANN QUINLAN???
The pictures we see are old, very old. TEN YEARS in a vegetative state (brain dead) - can you imagine what that looks like? My God, it's awful. Trust me.
The husband had nothing to do with what happened to his wife. She had an aneurysm. He never hurt her and he has taken care of her every day since. He's a hell of a nice guy who's going through hell and more hell because of her parents who should just put their daughter to rest.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at February 08, 2005 09:01 PM (PEKrh)
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Mighty whitey wrore: "The moral to this story is simple......
HAVE A LIVING WILL!!!!!!!!!!! " You need more than a living will but also a DNR (do not resusatate and a Power of Attorney who will follow your wishes. I don't care how old or young you are, you never know when it's going to be too late, so don't put it off - do it now!
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at February 09, 2005 09:01 AM (PEKrh)
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Let nature take it's course. Stop all artificial life support. Let this woman pass on with some dignity,
Posted by: Judy Pah Tooty at February 09, 2005 09:05 AM (6yVWI)
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But we have to MAKE everyone live ... this is the problem with our society today, people have this fetish with keeping everything alive. The vikings had the best system, at birth children were dunked into the icy waters ... those who died would most probably would not have survived because of being WEAK and the STRONG lived. How long before some retard out there tries to argue the fact that their wife/husband is in a coma, but that they want to have kids? Let the weak die and the strong live ... like the same situation of stupid people doing stupid things and dying ... PASSIVE EUGENICS!
Posted by: Salamander at February 09, 2005 10:10 AM (V40IZ)
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Salamander, that all sounds quite reasonable... unless you are on the deadly end of it. I would be. Have the stomach to come and do the job yourself? Take a flying fuck, asshole.
Posted by: Lebensunwertes Leben? at February 13, 2005 07:43 PM (94gNW)
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Juan V Schoch - Lake Mary, FL
Concerned Florida Resident / United States Citizen who believes Terri should be provided protection, removed from out of the hands of those trying to kill
her via substituted (hearsay) wishes, and who believes she should be placed back on the road to her recovery via rehabilitation and therapy, etc. as well as
into the hands of her loved ones, etc.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts
Florida House Could Impeach Schiavo Judge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342344/posts?page=1#1
Posted by: Juan Schoch at February 14, 2005 12:13 AM (KrlV3)
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"But we have to MAKE everyone live"
Interesting comment, but in this case it is a matter of making someone die. First off, there are several doctors that have stated Terri is not in a vegetative state. Further, there is a significant difference to being on life support and having a feeding tube. Also, Terri is responsive to people, which calls into question the 'vegetative' assessment. (Yes she has been in a vegetative state for 14 years, but in 1991, after receiving limited therapy, her condition improved. Her husband was advised to continue advanced therapy. He refused and has continued to refuse any type of therapy. Had he agreed to what doctors recommended, perhaps she would not be in the state she is in today.)
Oh and the cost... Terri's parents requested a settlement with her husband (who has refused to divorce Terri, but has recently had two children another woman). The settlement would have given custody of Terri to her parents. The would agree to be responsible for all medical costs, as well as allow Michael to keep all malpractice settlements, and allow him to all rights on Terri's estate if/when she dies. Plus the would agree to never take any future legal action against him. He refused this offer.
I find it interesting that if we starved a murderer or rapist in jail, it would be considered torture. If I starved my dog or cat, I would legally be prosecuted. But we can decide to starve an innocent woman merely because she doesn't have the voice to speak up. The thought of where this could lead is scary!
Donny
Posted by: Donny at February 22, 2005 11:20 PM (OfAGy)
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Everyone says how sad it is, how heartless Michael is. But, honestly, let me ask you this...How many of them have honestly been put through it--put ont he other side of the fence? If I were on the outside, and never had an inside look, I might say that it would be wrong, she is still breathing, sahe still has a chance. But I have been on the other side of the fence, so I can see where he is coming from. There is nothing else worse than having to say goodbye to a loved one, or having to make that choice for them--but is it really fair to let them live with no quality of life? To have someone else take care of everything from brushing your teeth, styling your hair, changing your diaper, showering you--what kind of life is that? Not much if you ask me. I completely stand behind Michael's decision 120%. And when you are put in the position where you have to choose, and after making that choice, I believe then you can either critisize or commend Michael on his decisions.
Posted by: Teresa at February 23, 2005 10:36 AM (ke0MI)
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In all fairness, Terri Schiavo's parents have alleged her injuries were at the hands of her husband all along. On the night she was admitted, several tests were run that showed she had been the victim of a possible strangulation, as well as evidence of recently broken bones that had healed. Plus, Terri Schiavo quit breathing, long enough for brain damage to occur, at the hands of a husband who knew CPR and had at one time been an EMT. Why didn't he perform CPR to save her? However, these medical records were sealed at the order of her husband, and have never made it to a court room. Prosecutors say they are now irrelevant, since the status of limitations on any crime committed then has passed. IMO, her husband is scared to death she will come out of this state and let the world know what an arrogant, violent man he is.
Posted by: Carol Ann at February 23, 2005 04:43 PM (moQen)
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The blind support for these parents is pathetic. The conspiracy theories are pathetic. The statements that we would not do it to criminals, dogs etc have no comparison. She is the equivilant of a tomato. A rotting tomato taking up space. Why don't you idiots drive to Tampa and change her bedpan for a few days? See how you feel after that.
Posted by: Marley at February 23, 2005 11:13 PM (jPyYC)
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Marley, changing a bedpan isn't so bad. I have four children and I've changed diapers, cleaned up vomit, etc. because that's what people do for those they love. What I couldn't do is to stand by and watch someone die a slow and painful death by starvation. How many days do you think it will take? Could you do that?
Posted by: Pam at February 24, 2005 09:04 AM (aMo3t)
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Changing a bedpan and cleaning up for children who show you love and provide feedback is not the same.
I imagine it will take a week or so for her to die. Painful, yes, but nothing compared to what she has been put through since she effectively died 15 years ago.
Here is an interesting article for you to read that describes the situation from someone who has been through it.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-asecmaylene20022005feb20,1,3587026.story
Posted by: Marley at February 25, 2005 02:14 PM (jPyYC)
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Did Terri have an eating disorder previously? One news story linked the chemical imbalance to be a result of disordered eating-just a question for the curious-
Posted by: Natark at February 25, 2005 09:36 PM (JLq4y)
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Teresa writes:
To have someone else take care of everything from brushing your teeth, styling your hair, changing your diaper, showering you--what kind of life is that? Not much if you ask me.
That's pretty much my life, Teresa. Does it surprise you that not only am I still alive, but I also have no desire to kill myself?
Dependency like this is not nearly as bad as outsiders assume it is. And therein lies the danger: it is precisely outsiders with this distorted view who are making judgments about the value of the patient's life. Should whether I live or die hinge on someone else's ignorant and superficial assumption that my life is not worth living?
Posted by: Capt. Ichibum at February 26, 2005 06:02 PM (pGHMt)
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If a baby does not want to eat because he does not feel like it, should the parents not force feed him? If you love your child you feed them, cloth them, and take care of them. Killing a person because they are a burden is not a reason. Terri Schiavo is not a mere "vegetable." She has a soul. I am sorry that her disability has been a burden on Michael Shiavo's life. But guess what, if he truly loves her, and "wants what is best for her" he would at least visit her and pretend to be interested in her life. How can he know what state of mind she is in if he has not seen her? I used to work at a nursing home. The people that could not communicate and had severe cases of AlzheimerÂ’s were the ones that were forgotten the most even though they were the ones that need the most attention. They may not have been aware of what was going on but if you took three minutes and gave it to them it made a world of difference. If Michael Shiavo wants to be rid of her even if it means starving her to death he might as well shoot her with a gun. People think that that would be inhuman. Well you know starvation was used by Hitler. Then it was also considered inhuman. At least if she was shot it would be quick and she would not have to be in pain for one or two weeks. But who REALLY cares if she is in pain, as long as Michael Shiavo can move on with his life.
Posted by: Cinderella at February 28, 2005 08:27 PM (TM4lu)
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If Michael Loved his wife Terri he would give her parents the right to take care of her. If he loved her that much he would have given her rehab for her to get better.
Posted by: Jill at March 14, 2005 04:41 PM (jPBBo)
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quality of life lets see, what is quality of life for one, is not the same as it is for another. I worked with mentally and physically handicap people most of my life. MY GRANDFATHER taught me when i was a child what quality of life was. To him it was that winston cig you held for him, thats all he needed and all he desired was to smoke. He'd been a go getter his whole life, but with a disabling illness, that one cig was his quality of life. And beleive me he couldn't have been happier. Our quality of life is decided by the GOOD LORD ABOVE what he desires us to have. Not a husband, a parent, you or me. Just look at the lives she has touched, I beleive for what ever happens good or bad, its in GODS HANDS and he'll be there in the end either way. If her husband is doing it to get rid of her, then remember what GOD said vengence is mine!!!!!!!!!!! kim
Posted by: kim at March 15, 2005 03:03 PM (r8BvQ)
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I just happened to scan thru the posts and would like to share my views.
First of all, to the person who said she knows more about PVS and brain death than most....perhaps you should do some reading. Persistent Vegetative State and Brain Death are not the same thing, even if people use the terms interchangeably. Brain Death is just that....the brain is dead. There are no brain waves, no brain function. In most states, this is considered legal death. After the tests that determine brain death are done, the patient is pronounced dead and life supports are removed. The patient's cardiac and respiratory functions cease shortly thereafter. This is in 'classic' brain death. However, this isn't in all cases. Some patients still exhibit minimal brain functioning, enough to sustain a heartbeat and breathing from several hours, to several days, to several years. This isn't true brain death. This can be lumped into 'persistent vegetative states'. Some people, esp those young and healthy when stricken, can keep breathing and circulating blood for years.
Having to tube feed a semi-responsive adult and change their diapers is different from doing the same for a baby. Babies are growing and interacting with their caregivers. Hopefully they will grow up healthy and happy. People in PSVs can range from some level of interaction with their caregivers to minimal or none. They will not get better but rather continue to linger.
They were usually healthy otherwise, which is why they didn't die during the acute phase of their illness or collapse. They will continue to exist for years. They live in nursing homes, where they will need to be turned every two hours or get bedsores. Their arms and legs need to be exercised frequently or they will become contracted, like Ms Schiavo's.
They are being taken care of by people who are very overworked and who don't make very much money, yet you expect them to take excellent care of these people. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but trust me........if it comes down to a health care worker hurting themselves because there is inadequate help to get a semicomatose patient out of bed, or leaving them in bed, and therefore, more at risk of pneumonia and bedsores.....they're going to look out for themselves.
I hope Terri's case serves as an example to people: Make a living will. Or you too can expect a long life filled with tube feedings, infections, limb contractures, diarrhea and bedsores. People are born, and people die and sadly, sometimes there are some people caught in between. Certainly not dead, and yet not quite alive. Unless you are personally willing to give up the rest of your life to make sure you can change Depends and turn someone every two hours and exercise their limbs and wash them and keep them clean. Don't stand in judgement of those who can't do it either. Don't hand over care of your loved one to a nursing home and expect them to care for this person, if you don't. How come I don't see swarms of concerned folk storming the hospitals and volunteering to care for the people they claim have a right to live?
Make a living will!
Posted by: Veggie Caretaker at March 16, 2005 02:59 PM (ZVJWc)
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All of the bleeding hearts who advocate keeping this poor woman alive should sign a will proclaiming their desire to be kept alive in a vegetative state for 20 years or longer if necessary. They should specify that they desire to have bedpans, diapers, bedsores, etc. etc. and to be cared for by their parents, spouses, children, with the financial assistance of all
available charities, medicaid etc. The one thing about this which really disturbs me is that the alternative to continuing this sad existance is to starve her to death. We need the humanity of a Dr. Kevorkian to exit this world when all hope for recovery fails. At least animals who are suffering can be given a merciful injection and go quietly and painlessly.
Posted by: evelyn anderson at March 19, 2005 02:24 PM (fLlQ8)
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I don't understand one point quite a few of you make here, so please let me grasp your idea: a person in a vegetative state is unable to hear, feel, or perceive anything, right? In other words, he/she does not exist as a person? Ok, so - why should such a non-person care about being kept alive in a vegetative state at all? If I am a vegetable, if my mind - my soul - is simply not there - why should I bother? The "I" of my personality (my persohood) no longer existing, who would bother about my body being hooked on ventilation? Not "me", definitely.
So, only the people who are selfish enought not to tolerate the thought that human being can get old, can get sick, can get disbaled, that human beings need attention and care when old, sick, or disabled...
Now, my thoughts on Terri's case.
What gives me creeps really is the fact that despite that fact that her so-called husband has had a long term realionship plus two children (call it co-habitation, call it common law marriage, call it adultery, all in all he is not being a true and devouted husband to Terri), he is still her legal guardian.
Would you like such a "husband" decide for you?
What terrifies me even more is that Terri is denied any realiable medical procedures which would indicate the state she is in. Ok folks, let's assume she could be in a persistent vegetative state (she appears not to be, by the way - she responds to stimuli, which defies the definition of a PVS). Why is she denied a PET scan?
The dirty thing about it is that there is no reliable data supporting the thesis that Terri is "a rotten tomatoe". If she really is one, ok folks, give me the proofs. Give me the PET scan, give me some lenghty examinations conducted by un-biased neurologists.
As to money and all this "diapers changing": don't you worry, folks. There is her family, really eager to take care of Terri. It is not _your_ concern, it is even not the concern of her so-called husband. If the people want to take care of a "rotten tomatoe", as somebody called Terri (though I would say she is a severly disabled person), why shouldn't they be allowed to?
Why do you bother about diaper-changing concerning a rotten tomatoe, if you are not in any way affected by it and if you think the tomatoe does not feel anything (nobody asks _you_ to do the diaper-thing for Terri, and as for money, her family is ready to cover the expenses)?
Posted by: Hexe at March 19, 2005 03:25 PM (AehTO)
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I have been so depressed over this case. I can not believe the society we live in. It sickens me. This poor woman is lying in bed screaming inside for someone to feed her at this very moment. I am scared for her. I just can't understand why human beings would let this happen.
I have a severly retarded cousin who can not speak, can not go to the bathroom on her own,can not eat on her own, can not walk on her own and can not make eye contact.She is not unlike an infant. Yet she is happy. She smiles and laughs and loves. Should her mother stop feeding her.
Posted by: Ashley Crook at March 21, 2005 02:17 PM (VtMn9)
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Michael (the so called loving husband) was already awarded 1.2 million dollars after a malpractice lawsuit to cover her medical bills. Robert Herring even offered him 1 million if he would reverse his decision to have her feeding tube removed and let her parents be her guardian.
Michael has refused antibotics for his wife when she was sick, a mri, and also swallow tests to see if she can eat on her own. The last swallow tests were done in 1992. Doctors do not believe she is PVS but her so called husband wont allow the testing and the proper treatment for her. Doctors believe she could improve greatly if she would get the treatment.
I dont think he is interested so much in the money but to cover up what really happened to her and I believe he is responisible for what happened to her. Doctors have said that it is very unlikely this happened from low potassium especially to someone in their 20s.
In the 1991 bone scan (which he did seal and her parents didnt know about until 199
revealed abnormal stress to her bones such as her back, ribs, sacrolliac joints, knees and ankles. It also states that she had close head injury.
The doctors that examined her whenever she first got to the hospital said she had injuries similiar to strangulation.
Michael said he heard a thud around 4:30 a.m. and saw her lying on the floor so he rolled her over onto her back. She did not breathe for 5 to 8 minutes even though he knew cpr. Her brother who lived in the same apartment complex was called and whenever he cane and saw her she was on her stomach face down.
I have read numerous different web sites about the treatment that her husband has given her and the treatments he has refused and I just can not believe that he is still her guardian. Ive also seen videos of her and she is not a tomato. She moves her head, she makes noises, and smiles. I've seen elderly people in far more worse conditions than she is in. I just hope that the courts have enough brains and common sense to see that the only thing her loving husband is concerned about is killing her and I hope to God her parents get to be her guardians and let her get the proper medical treatment she deserves.
Posted by: Jodi at March 21, 2005 02:43 PM (M7kiy)
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The furor that's been stirred up over this case sickens and saddens me. The only question that really, truly needs to be asked is simply "What would Terri have wanted?"
That question has been asked, and answered. In 2000, a court decided that Terri's comments conclusively showed that she did not wish to be kept alive in a coma, or vegetative, or dependent state.
Sure, the blogs will tell you that this ruling is being questioned now... but come on, it's pretty obvious that it's another one of the hail mary strategies that the family is using to keep postponing the inevitable.
Terri didn't want to live dependent on others. She didn't want to be mute, paralyzed and capable of nothing more than tracking a freaking balloon across the ceiling. That should be the end of the story. I feel sorry for the parents, as well as the husband that their private pain has become another talking point in this bogus culture war that's being used to distract us against the fact that our national leaders are stomping on the accelerator and driving our country off the edge of the cliff.
I feel especially sorry for the husband, currently being smeared and slandered and accused of everything from abuse, to attempted murder to a blatant money grab. I guess that conservatives automatically assume that every human action is motivated by naked greed, since that is their primary thought-mode.
But if the husband was strictly on a money hunt, attempting to shirk his responsibilities or hoping to cover up evidence of some past foul play, wouldn't he have dropped this quest years and years ago, before it it metastastized into the hottest topic in the nation?
No other explanation of his actions makes quite as much sense to me as that he truly believes this is what she would have wanted. So everyone should just get out of his way.
As an interesting thought experiment, let's try to imagine if congress would have flown in from the corners of the nation and awakened the President to sign a life-saving bill if the vegetable in question had been 1)Black 3)Male or 3)In a coma due to drug use.
Though I obviously can't prove it, I'd have to guess the answer is no.
This media hysteria follows our national obsession with white, sympathetic, attractive females in danger. Whether it's JonBenet Ramsey or Laci Peterson, these threatened Aryan vessels of feminity seem make all our hearts palpitate in the way that other stories just don't.
Posted by: hossman at March 21, 2005 07:56 PM (7gTCg)
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I think that they shouldn't put the feeding tube back in because it is like someone above said, she has been passed on for 15 years. actually. that is how i see it. it will be hard for the family. and if she doesn't get her feeding tube put back in then i am grieving for you, and it will be hard and i'm not going to lie.
Posted by: not_going_to_be_easy at March 22, 2005 05:50 AM (vQbyU)
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I think she should die. I think they should just cut off all the tips of her fingers and let her bleed to death. It would be faster. Far as her husband goes i think he should be killed also. He just wants the money. He made her this way with the violence.I think he should be tortured as well. I would bring him 20 miles out in the woods and tie him to a tree and let him starve to death. Then after both of them are dead we can finally put this behind us and talk about the next set of personal problems this world has to offer.
Posted by: Shane s. at March 22, 2005 11:25 AM (sKK6x)
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Capt.Ichibum writes that his life is that of having someone do pretty much everything for him, but that he has no wish to die because of it. However, the fact that you can WRITE anything makes you a completely different case than Terri. She can't express herself in any way. Did someone type your feelings on this matter for you, Captain, based on eye movements in order to know exactly what you wanted to say? Or have you the capacity to speak for yourself?
If Terri had the ability to speak, write, or type her feelings, then you have the right to compare your situation to hers. Until then, I truly do wish you a life of continued fulfillment, but I also wish that you would not impose your zest for life on someone who hasn't had anything close to it for many, many agonizing years.
Posted by: Melissa at March 24, 2005 12:51 PM (jXyRy)
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Excellent point, Melissa!
Posted by: Richard at March 24, 2005 03:29 PM (jXyRy)
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Doctor's have commented that this woman's mental state and physical state pretty much equal that of a mentally retarded individual or person with cerebral palsy. The woman responds to human touch. She smiles. She opens her eyes and looks at you. She may not be able to talk or express how she feels, but the fact remains that SHE DOES FEEL. What they are doing to her is inhumane in the least. She's dying slowly so that her husband can move on with his life. He needs to be investigated, at the very least she deserves that much.
So, if you're so set on killing this woman. Look into the eyes of parents who have disabled children and tell them to put a gun to their child's head. Is it not basically the same principle?
Posted by: Cynical 1 at March 24, 2005 05:28 PM (tYDwc)
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A gun to their child's head is not at all the same thing, and how exactly is it that you have come to know what Terri wants? She experienced a quality of life at one time and then had it taken away. I have worked with people with cerebral palsy---children to be exact, and even the most severe cases can use sign language and gestures to convey their thoughts. Terri can do none of this, otherwise she would express her wishes and we could all stop making decisions and assumptions on her behalf. Do you know the staggering number of people who make it known in their wills that they do not want to be kept alive artificially? You must all ask yourselves if you would like to live in a bed without being able to speak, eat, drink, taste or move for 15 years. Would you want your husband/children to be stuck with millions of dollars of medical bills all for the privilege of changing your diapers, watching your bedsores grow bigger, and watching your body become painfully contracted with each passing day? I hope if my life ever comes to that, my family will do the just, humane thing and let me go. I also hope that do gooders will not take that right away from my husband or children as they have in Terri's case and decide that they know what is best for me.
Posted by: Amy at March 24, 2005 10:20 PM (jXyRy)
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Doctors will say whatever you want as long as you are the one paying them. I found this out during my workers comp suit. My question here is -- who can you believe -- the parents have their story, Michael has his story, the diagnosis of the doctors are totally different. You can make arguments for both sides of this issue. I can't see that this situation will ever be resolved in a manner that will satisfy everyone. I suppose we are all going to have to turn this one over to God.
Posted by: Lynda West at March 25, 2005 12:14 AM (ywZa8)
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I SAY THAT THE BRAINDEAD BITCH SHOULD DIE. SHE SHOULD BE TIED TO A WALL AND STONED TO DEATH SINCE SHE DONT FEEL PAIN. I THINK THEY SHOULD THROW 3 STONES A DAY AT HER AND FEED HER JUST WATER SO SHE CAN STAY ALIVE ANOTHER MONTH AND GET STONED EVEN MORE.SHE HAS PUT SO MANY PEOPLE THROUGH SO MUCH HELL THAT SHE EVEN THOUGH SHE CANT FEEL SHOULD STILL BE PUNISHED. IF THEY WOULD LET ME IN THE HOSPITAL I WOULD SLAP HER UP SIDE HER HEAD A FEW TIMES. THE HELL THAT SICK WOMEN HAS PUT HER POOR HUSBAND THROUGH. I ALMOST AGREE WITH THE SHANE QUOTE ABOVE ABOUT CUTTING OFF HER FINGER TIPS BUT I WOULD RATHER SHE BE TORTURED EVEN MORE. I DONT THINK CUTTING OFF HER FOOD AND WATER IS RIGHT. I THINK THEY SHOULD GIVE HER FEEDING TUBE BACK AND STONE HER EVERYDAY FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS UNTILL SHE IS DEAD. THAT SICK BITCH COST EVEN US TAX PAYERS MONEY AND I AM SICK OF IT. I DONT WANT ANY OF MY TAX DOLLERS TO GO TO ROTTEN SCUM. I WILL SUE HER HUSBAND PRETTY SOON IF THE BITCH DONT DIE. I DONT WANT ANYMORE OF MY TAX DOLLERS IN COURTS FOR THIS ROTTEN BITCH. SO YA I WILL SUE THE HUSBAND SOON IF SHE DONT DIE.
Posted by: KILL TERRI NOW at March 25, 2005 02:55 AM (sKK6x)
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I cannot believe what I have just read!!
Obviously the person behind the last post is someone who is sick and has absolutely no soul.
This woman and her family have been suffering for 13 years.
Terri is a woman who needs support not an assault.
Whether or not anyone would want to be in that situation goes without question.... of course none of us would want that.
But I for one would not like my husband, who is now practically married to someone else with two children, to dictate whether or not I die.
I think tests shoul be carried out to see exactly how responsive she is and to see if there is room for any improvement and then let the Supreme Court decide.
As for the last post from 'Kill Terri Now'
You obviously have problems and need even more attention then Terri does...
Its not her problem your welfare for your eight kids by 7 different partners can't have as much pocket money to vandalise the streets.
Or that you can't get an upgraded cable system for your unemployed useless ass.
But some people are actually worthy of empathy and compassion
Posted by: Alison at March 25, 2005 04:55 AM (laoce)
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To whoever posted the KILL TERRI NOW message, I have only this to say. You sound as though you are so concerned about the tax dollars being spent, but are you as concerned about the tax dollars (yes, this is how word "dollars" is spelled) being spent on illegitimate kids, crack babies and their irresponsible parents who are CONSCIOUSLY burdening society in the form of welfare and overpopulation?
I can only assume, by reading your email, that are uneducated. None of the sentences in your post were without misspelled words and horrific grammar. The good news: you will never be in a position to legally make such life and death decisions, because doctors, nurses, lawyers and politicians all require some education and hard work, both of which have no part in your existence.
Posted by: Conni at March 25, 2005 09:31 AM (jXyRy)
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Well i think she should die cause all the pain she has caused everyone.Also i think she should die and get this over because i am tired of seeing it on my news everyday.She is nothing more than a worthless cochroach. If her parants were to get her it will still be on my tv's and newspapers everyday.I dont want that.We have spent way to much time on this one people.We should move on to the next issues at hand.I am so bored of seeing this rotten piece of shit on my tv everyday.
TERRI SHOULD DIE
Also for Conni above me here. A quote for your post.
Quit trying to sound so smart. Do you think anyone cares about your intelligents? I sure dont and i dont think the guy who wrote the stuff above cares either.Your prolly the one that lives in the getto and my tax dollars have to pay for your food stamps and your welfare. I am so sick of it all. I wish we didnt have any news than sick people like you wouldnt have to be so nosy and stick there nose up everyone's ass. Fuck Terri Schiavo. She is no more than a rotten bag of worms. Hell even worms have more use then she does. Aleast i can fish with them. So Conni if you love that rotten bitch so much please feel free to clean her rotten ass diaper everyday and clean the sore juice off of her ass. Ya what i thought. Get a life you lowlife scum Conni.
Posted by: Terri should die! at March 25, 2005 01:15 PM (sKK6x)
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Wow. Intelligents. Well, I know one thing for sure. MY tax dollars didn't go to pay for YOUR education. It appears to me that you missed out on getting one.
You don't get your point across any clearer or more pertinently by saying "Fuck Terri Schiavo". All that does is prove Conni's point. You, my friend, are the worthless piece of shit you so desperately protest.
Congratulations! They really should force you to prove your IQ before allowing you to post here. At least it would weed out those who just want to rant about the ever growing chip on their shoulder for whom they have no one but themselves to blame. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if your tax dollars are paying for anything at all. Who would hire someone as degenerate as you to work for them? No business with any sense that I've ever heard of.
Pathetic, you are.
Posted by: Cynical 1 at March 25, 2005 05:04 PM (tYDwc)
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As it so happens, I do think that the government should stay out of it, and I think the humane thing for Terri is and has always been to let her die. But it is not Terri's fault that selfish people insist on keeping her alive without regard to her welfare. Do you honestly think that ANYONE would demand to be kept alive for 15 years in a vegetative state? According to court documents and her then husband Michael, she asked to be let go 15 years ago. Never once in my post did I advocate keeping her alive in such a sad state. But, of course, you weren't able understand what I wrote.
Your post, as incoherent and badly written as it was, serves only to strengthen my point. How can you refer to someone who has had no ability to tell anyone her wishes for the last 15 interminable years as a "rotten piece of shit"? She has not asked for any of this! She has not asked for ANYTHING for a long time. She deserves our sympathy, not our hatred.
Finally, if you are going to accuse someone of being from the ghetto, then at least learn how to spell it.
Posted by: Conni at March 25, 2005 05:24 PM (jXyRy)
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Well sorry conni im not from the ghetto and mispelled a word. So maybe it would be better if you were in Terri shoes and were laying there rotten. It would serve you better.
Posted by: Conni should die lol at March 26, 2005 02:02 PM (sKK6x)
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I hope she finally dies today!
So is getting so close.
I will even drive to where she is to piss on her grave for all the shit she has caused.
The sick bitch didnt eat right and her heart stops and were suppose to feel sorry for her?
I think not.
Thank god to the judge that denied her food and water.
The food and water is just a waste.
Posted by: Rotten bitch must die Today!!!! at March 26, 2005 05:33 PM (sKK6x)
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Either side of this issue is a tough place to be. I am almost always surprised by how heated people can become about topics that involve other people's tragedies.
The hate that is emanating from many of these posts is appalling, but understandable. It seems that when most people are fearful they attack with hateful statements.
I do hope that both sides of any family in Schiavo's situation come through as unscathed as possible.
Terrible things can happen to anyone at any time, and reality can be a harsh place to be. Yet, wouldn't it be best to handle it with a bit more love and understanding than with so much hate?
Posted by: JustDoTheBestThatWeCan at March 27, 2005 09:45 AM (6krEN)
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You can all take off your tin foil hats...
1. Terri's collapse and subsequent state was caused by a potassium imbalance brought on by bulimia, which, while exceedingly ironic given her current state, isn't really being talked about because god forbid she may have BROUGHT THIS ON HERSELF.
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/102/106853.htm
Posted by: your terri wants steak at March 28, 2005 04:39 PM (sXfD7)
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Depends on where you read and who you decide to trust. There are sworn testimony records from doctors and nurses who examined Terri initially after her "injury" that determined that the potassium levels in her body were in fact, not high enough to indicate heart attack or stroke. There were also indications of a neck injury and/or possibility of strangulation. So, I guess it really boils down to who you believe. A man who stands to gain from her death, or not?
There are too many stories. Too many things to be considered. All I'm saying is that Michael should be investigated. The judge ignored several legal items when deciding on this case, and has all along.
It has been said that Terri was for several years able to be fed orally, until her husband (who cared about her so much?) asked that the oral feeding be stopped and a feeding tube be inserted because it was too costly to have a nurse physically feed her every 3-4 hours. Concerned about her well being? Or concerned about the money that wouldn't be available to him when she died because it was spent on her care? He stopped therapy and treatments that some doctor's say could have helped rehabilitate Terri.
I wouldn't want to be alive either, and I'm sure she doesn't. But I sure as hell wouldn't want a man I was ready to divorce, who I had complained to friends and family had abused me, making decisions regarding my life, or lack of it. I don't think the woman should be kept alive under those conditions, but I sure don't think he should be the one making those decisions. The ACLU cracks me up. If we decided to kill a prisoner on death row by means of starvation and dehydration they'd be in everyone's face about basic human rights. If she needs to die, then for God sakes, help her die peacefully, not like this. It's a slow death and whether or not anyone "thinks" she can or can't feel it doesn't matter. That shouldn't be a question. Humanity is the real question. Is she being "helped" to death in the proper manner? I don't think she is.
Posted by: Cynical 1 at March 28, 2005 06:12 PM (tYDwc)
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I would love it if some crazy would shoot him when she dies,then he would have to answer to God
Posted by: linda at March 28, 2005 11:29 PM (ywZa8)
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Ah yes, but then so would the person who shot him. It's not worth another human life down the drain for that man. He's scum, and he only cares about himself. I wonder what kind of a woman would stay with a man knowing he refuses to divorce his first wife even though she's in a vegetative state? And give him children? Maybe she's as money hungry as he is? I think the whole thing is just wrong. The one who should be suffering here is Michael Shiavo. But it seems that until he gets that money from Terri's death, everyone around the entire situation will be made to suffer instead.
Where are the checks and balances in our judicial system that are supposed to be in place? I think our government needs to be re-evaluated. They need a report card and right now, I'd fail them. All three branches.
Posted by: Cynical 1 at March 29, 2005 10:12 AM (tYDwc)
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well done Michael you did the best and right thing for Terri I feel she was a vegetable, also staying and living like a vegetable would have been cruel,her parents had no money to care for her as needed, also what would happen to her after the passing of her parents as they are aging, who would pay for her care the PUBLIC.Once again I applaud you Michael for your strength and courage through this terrible circus the Shindlers have put their daughter through, God Bless you & thanks for being silent & caring sifraser
Posted by: sifra at April 01, 2005 04:05 PM (9qgG2)
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Party at my house today! Not because a drooling vegetable shuffled off this mortal coil, but because Christians, conservatives, and all of their pathetic, retarded, misguided type got a fantastically appropriate slap in the face that can never be undone... Terri Shitstain is **dead** (FINALLY) and all those rediculous losers with "Pro-Life" signs, puttering around like they can save her with their morals can finally wake up and see that the times-are-a-changin'. Sweet fuck it feels good to see so many religious right-wing crackpots lose a battle of ideologies.
I don't give a flying birdshit about what politics were involved, but damn am I feeling smug that another waste-of-air isn't taking up anymore space in the world. Don't get me wrong, I don't actively hate tards. At least not the ones that can be productive to humanity in some way (ie. making cheeseburgers, cleaning dirty floors, being laughed at..) But if I ever came across a fucking vegetable sucking down liquid sandwiches and shitting in a bag, I'd knock *it* down and stomp the fuck out of it. I'd turn that drooling, blinking shitwad into a fucking V8 juice cocktail on the carpet. Then at least I'd know there was 1 less "human" sucking up people's time and money on the world.
My name is Xan, and I am PRO-DEATH
Posted by: Finally croaked at April 03, 2005 10:12 PM (yVXTt)
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Well, Xan. Mr. Pro-Death. You're about as intelligent as a vegetable, so please do put a gun to your own head. Make this world a better place. It's product like you that make me want to pull my children from public school.
For the record, I know that if I were in her "state" I would have wanted to die also. But not by being starved to death. They arrest people for animal cruelty who do that to their dogs for God sake. They could have let her go peacfully. But to applaud Michael? Now that, gave me a good chuckle. Her parents don't have the money to care for her, but they had the desire. He HAD (I say had because most of it was spent paying attorney's) the money and not the desire. He couldn't wait until "the bitch died" in his own words as testified to in a court of law. What a loving husband.
Posted by: Cynical 1 at April 04, 2005 09:37 AM (tYDwc)
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Oh please, putting me out of my own misery wouldn't make this world a better place. It would deprive the world of a much needed advocate of death. With everybody fucking like rabbits and filling this globe with their miserable and often retarded progeny, there needs to be people like me to preach the benefits of Culling(tm). And if I ever was maimed so horribly as to turn into an eggplant with a straw in my head feeding me expensive nutrients, I'd applaud and revere (from beyond the grave of course) anybody that put a shotgun to my head and spattered the lilly white hospital walls with my inept, non-functioning grey matter. I'd turn into their Gaurdian Fucking Angel(tm). And make sure they always heard voices in their heads to put other tards down like the cattle they are.
Others like me feel not afraid to speak up as well. I know you're out there somewhere. Every time somebody sighs and gets agitated that the "special kid" from the "special room" shit its pants in the hallway again, you've got a friend in me.
Please, feel free to post as many hilarious retorts as possible, you're making my day.. Fuck, you're going in my scrapbook of things that make me smile ^_^
-Xan... Umm.. I mean MR. PRODEATH!
PS: Michael Schiavo has been elevated to one of my idols on this Earth for having the courage to tell all of you "pro-lifing" shitstains to FUCK yourselves by putting that drooling idiot of out its misery.
Posted by: Finally croaked at April 04, 2005 09:54 PM (yVXTt)
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>>>PS: Michael Schiavo has been elevated to one of my idols on this Earth for having the courage to tell all of you "pro-lifing" shitstains to FUCK yourselves by putting that drooling idiot of out its misery.<<<<
Elevated? To what? Directly below Charles Manson and Edward Gaines? Would it be possible for you, in all your small minded ability, to get a point across without saying Fuck every two words? Just simply eliminating that one word from every single post you've written might appear to increase your intelligence a few notches. Just something to think on.
Don't hurt yourself.
Posted by: Cynical 1 at April 05, 2005 03:03 PM (tYDwc)
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Fuck is one of my favourite words. How dare you rain your filthy cynicism on my cherished vocabulary. It's fucking up the mood in here. Your fucking up this wonderful bond we've developed. Give me a fucking hug and lets be pals again. Wait, we never were pals. Fuck off and die then.
But I fear we've strayed off topic, I didn't say attack my choice of words you silly wanker, I said retort to the position that I'm sure I've driven home in this merry little forum. Maybe if you stayed on topic, you could use your obviously baffling mastery of political jargon and moral perspectives to fuck my little fucking brain right the fuck over. Dazzle me with your cosmic enlightenment on the polarized viewpoints of human vegetative states and perhaps you'll convince me that Terri's death was not reason enough to have an absinthe party at my place a few nights ago...
Posted by: Finally Croaked at April 05, 2005 09:43 PM (yVXTt)
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To come right to the point; there would be no reason for Terri Schiavo to have been in a persistent vegetative state; if Michael Schiavo had not been beating her to the point were Terri had FRACTURED RIBS, DAMAGE TOHER PELVIC AREA, LI VERTEBRAA, SPINE, BOTH KNEES WERE BROKEN
AND BOTH ANKLES WERE ALSO BROKEN ACCORDING TO THE BONE SCAN.
There were injuries to TerriÂ’s neck that were consistant with strangulation.
In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, the governor said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m. on Feb. 25, 1990, and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.
Why did it take Michael Schiavo an HOUR AND TEM MINUTES to call 911? This is a question that Judge Greer should have asked himself before giving Michael the power to decide life or death for Terri or for that matter legal guardianship of Terri
Terri Schiavo was severly brain damaged however, Terri was still a humanbeing that had a right to FOOD AND WATER. My God, at the very time Michael Schiavo was watering the grass in front of his house he was also dehydrating his wife. Now, you tell me was is wrong with this picture?
“Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay,” Bush wrote. “In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome
I Feel Michael Schiavo got away with MURDER; and to make matters worse Michael got rich and Judge Greer got paid with BLOOD MONEY. Greer did not do his investigation of the Terri Schiavo case correctly; had he done so he would have seen the horrible abuse and neglect with which Terri suffered at the hands of Michael. TO FIND MORE ABOUT TERRIÂ’S ABUSE AND NEGLECT TYPE IN THE WORDS (SAGA OF TERRI SCHIAVO)
LISTEN TO: Dr. Hammesfahrs: http://www.apfn.org/audio/DrHammesfahr2.mp3
Dr. Hammesfahr revealed that not only has Terri NEVER had a heart attack as
widely reported in the major media, she also NEVER even had a cardiac arrest
(her heart never stopped)! [she had arhythmias of the heart but not a
“stopped heart.”]
To have Judge Greer impeach Type in the words (PETITION TO IMPEACH JUDGE GREER)
Posted by: Catherine Woodward at July 02, 2005 04:04 PM (ZC6Hb)
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This comment is for ROTTEN BITCH MUST DIE TODAY, TERRI SHOULD DIE and KILL TERRI NOW.
You heartless MOTHER-FUCKERS; how dare you speak of Terri in this way; Terri was a BEAUTIFULL HUMANBEING that had a right to food, water and life just like the west of us.
As for the one posted TERRI SHOULD DIE. Terri should not had died, but YOU on the other hand SHOULD!
If, anyone is a ROTTEN BAG OF WORMS it is you not TERRI. I don't think you hearless MOTHER-FUCKERS ARE FIT TO TIE TERRI'S SHOES
I cannot believe that, there are so-called humanbeings blaming Terri for the abuse and neglect she suffered.
I don't care if Terri had an eating disorder or not; there was no fucken reason on this god green earth why Terri Schiavo, (A BEAUTIFUL HUMANBEING) should been tortured for 13 day and then murdered.
TERRI IS MY HERO, EVEN THOUGH SHE IS IN HEAVEN, AND IN THE ARMS OF GOD ALMIGHTY.
Posted by: Catherine Woodward at July 02, 2005 05:41 PM (ZC6Hb)
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Jill, I completely agree with you. Micheal Schiavo did not care about Terri; infact he acted as if he hated Terri and wanted to make her suffer.
Michael was successfull in his ability to do the unthinkable; which was to TORTUR an inocent woman to death by DEHYDRATION AND STARVATION.
Jill when I heard that Terri Schiavo died (MARCH 31 Time 9:05AM)it broke my heart.
I could be watching TV or cleaning my house and the Terri Schiavo case will come to my mind and before I realize it TEARS are rolling down my face.
I cannot believe that an inocent HUMANBEING was allowed to be tortured for thirteen days and then murdered. What little respect I had for the law was totally destroyed the minute Terri was legally mudered.
Also, my faith in humanity as been severly damaged.
Posted by: Catherine Woodward at July 02, 2005 10:15 PM (+HSUk)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 01:49 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 01:54 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 01:59 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 3, 2005 01:
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 02:04 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 3, 2005 01:
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 02:06 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 02:19 PM (VWuca)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 04:00 PM (knO2V)
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Firstbrokenangel
At first I felt as you do now, but as I looked in to the Terri Schiavo case; it became painfully clear to me that Michael not only did not care about his wife he wanted Terri to suffer.
Here are affidavits of three former nurses / caretakers of Terri Schiavo, relating their horror at the abusive treatment and lack of treatment regarding Terri's care.
NO RESUSCITATION (if needed);
NO ANTIBIOTICS FOR URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS!
NO REHABILITATION OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING RANGE OF MOTION AND STIMULATION!
NEVER ALLOWED TO LEAVE HER ROOM FOR FRESH AIR AND SUNSHINE!
APPARENT INSULIN REACTIONS AFTER MICHAEL'S VISITS (she is not diabetic)!
MORE! and MORE! and MORE!, all under the ORDERS OF MICHAEL SCHIAVO, the husband who convinced a jury that their large award would allow him to take her home and care for her for the rest of his life. His 'fiance' with whom he's lived for seven years is expecting their second child.
He was heard on a news broadcast saying Terri has received rehabilitation therapy for 13 years. He's received death threats and has temporarily moved from his present address. I wonder if Michael Schiavo will be able to sleep again? Or leave his home without a body guard? If something happened to him, who would get what's left of Terri's medical fund? His new wife? or the STATE? Doubtful he'll ever really feel safe or comfortable again, wondering. . .
Terri is bathed in the Light of God, the Love of God, the Presence of God, and the Protection of God. Hold her in your mind and heart; in your Love. -- Jackie -- Saturday, October 18th, 2003
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CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.
AFFIDAVIT
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STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:
1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make this statement of my own personal knowledge.
2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.
3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.
4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as extremely odd.
5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation. Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be close to Michael, was intimidated by him.
Michael Schiavo always had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as "This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you, getting right in your face and practically shouting.
6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing.
Michael said again and again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together, and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.
7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper and scooted in bed on her bottom.
8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a "hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body, upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well, writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act, and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.
9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member.
Other statements which I recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift.
Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they should know about their daughter.
10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI [urinary tract infection]or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like, "Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!" and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.
11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it.
This happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have any way of knowing for sure.
12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the reasons I've said, and other patients, too.
There was an LPN named Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift, but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as "They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact that it didn't seem to attract any attention.
She made many comments about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the time, too.)
Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."
13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would tell me afterward and relay orders from him.
14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by and let Terri die without the truth being known.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August, 2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license as identification, and who did take an oath.
Notary Public
My commission expires
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CAROLYN JOHNSON, CNA
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
AFFIDAVIT
_________
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN JOHNSON who being first duly sworn deposes and says:
1. My name is Carolyn Johnson, I am over the age of 18 years and make this statement on personal information.
2. I used to work at Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, for a period of about two years. I actually was employed by a nursing agency and was placed at Sabal Palms as a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA). I believe the events related here occurred in about 1993.
3. During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times. The first time I saw her my duties were being explained to me by the nurse on duty. Terri Schiavo was lying in bed. Another patient, also a young woman about the same age and in the same condition, was sitting up in a chair, with a drink cup and straw in front of her.
4. I asked why Terri was not up in a chair, too. I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders.
5. No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly what Michael said to do.
6. I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions. Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation.
7. This entire experience made me look hard at nursing homes. After about two years, I quit this job, because I was so disillusioned with the way Terri was treated. Someone somewhere along the way should have reported this.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
Carolyn Johnson, Affiant
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 28 day of August, 2003, by Carolyn Johnson who produced a Florida drivers license as identification.
Notary Public
My commission expires
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HEIDI LAW, CNA
AFFIDAVIT
_________
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared HEIDI LAW who
being first duly sworn deposes and says:
1. My name is Heidi Law, I am over the age of 18 years, and make this statement on personal information.
2. I worked as a Certified Nursing Assistant at the Palm Gardens nursing home from March, 1997 to mid-summer of 1997. While I was employed at Palm Gardens, occasionally I took care of Theresa Schiavo. Generally, I worked the 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. shift, but occasionally also would work a double shift, until 7 a.m. the following morning.
3. At Palm Gardens, most of the patient care was provided by the CNAs, so I was in a good position to judge Terri's condition and observe her reactions. Terri was noticeable, because she was the youngest patient at Palm Gardens.
4. I know that Terri did not receive routine physical therapy or any other kind of therapy. I was personally aware of orders for rehabilitation that were not being carried out. Even though they were ordered, Michael would stop them. Michael ordered that Terri receive no rehabilitation or range of motion therapy. I and Olga would give Terri range of motion anyway, but we knew we were endangering our jobs by doing so. We usually did this behind closed doors, we were so fearful of being caught. Our hearts would race and we were always looking out for Michael, because we knew that, not only would Michael take his anger out on us, but he would take it out more on Terri. We spoke of this many times.
5. Terri had very definite likes and dislikes. Olga and I used to call Terri "Fancy Pants," because she was so particular about certain things. She just adored her baths, and was so happy afterward when she was all clean, smelling sweet from the lotion her mother provided, and wearing the soft nightgowns her mother laundered for her. Terri definitely did not like the taste of the teeth-cleaning swabs or the mouthwash we used. She liked to have her hair combed. She did not like being tucked in, and especially hated it if her legs were tightly tucked. You would always tell when Terri had a bowel movement, as she seem agitated and would sort of "scoot" to get away from it.
6. Every day, Terri was gotten up after lunch and sat in a chair all afternoon. When Terri was in bed, she very much preferred to lie on her right side and look out the window. We always said that she was watching for her mother. It was very obvious that her mother was her favorite person in the whole world.
7. I worked side-by-side with another CNA named Olga and could tell that she and Terri were especially close. Olga took a definite personal interest in Terri, and Terri responded to her. I could tell that Terri was very satisfied and happy with Olga's attentions to her.
8. When Olga was talking with Terri, Terri would follow Olga with her eyes. I have no doubt in my mind that Terri understood what Olga was saying to her. I could tell a definite difference between the way Terri responded to Olga and the way she reacted to me, until she got used to my taking care of her. Initially, she "clammed up" with me, the way she would with anyone she did not know or was not familiar or comfortable with. It took about the fourth or fifth time taking care of her alone, without Olga, that Terri became relaxed and cooperative and non-resistant with me.
9. Terri reacted very well to seeing a picture of her mother, which was in her room. Many times when I came on duty it would be lying face down where she could not see it.
10. At least three times during any shift where I took care of Terri, I made sure to give Terri a wet washcloth filled with ice chips, to keep her mouth moistened. I personally saw her swallow the ice water and never saw her gag. Olga and I frequently put orange juice or apple juice in her washcloth to give her something nice to taste, which made her happy. On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was so afraid of being caught by Michael.
11. On one occasion Michael Schiavo arrived with his girlfriend, and they entered Terri's room together. I heard Michael tell his girlfriend that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and was dying. After they left, Olga told me that Terri was extremely agitated and upset, and wouldn't react to anyone. When she was upset, which was usually the case after Michael was there, she would withdraw for hours. We were convinced that he was abusing her, and probably saying cruel, terrible things to her because she would be so upset when he left.
12. In the past, I have taken care of comatose patients, including those in a persistent vegetative state. While it is true that those patients will flinch or make sounds occasionally, they don't do it as a reaction to someone on a constant basis who is taking care of them, the way I saw Terri do.
13. I witnessed a priest visiting Terri a couple of times. Terri would become quiet when he prayed with her. She couldn't bow her head because of her stiff neck, but she would still try. During the prayer, she would keep her eyes closed, opening them afterward. She laughed at jokes he told her. I definitely know that Terri "is in there."
14. The Palm Gardens staff, myself included, were just amazed that a "Do Not Resuscitate" order had been put on Terri's chart, considering her age and her obvious cognitive awareness of her surroundings.
15. During the time I cared for Terri, she formed words. I have heard her say "mommy" from time to time, and "momma," and she also said "help me" a number of times. She would frequently make noises like she was trying to talk. Other staff members talked about her verbalizations.
16. Several times when Michael visited Terri during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. This worried me because I didn't trust Michael. When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists and some times had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy. It would take much more time and effort than usual to work her hands open to clean her palms.
17. I was told by supervisory staff that Michael was Terri's legal guardian, and that it didn't matter what the parents or the doctors or nurses wanted, just do what Michael told you to do or you will lose your job. Michael would override the orders of the doctors and nurses to make sure Terri got no treatment. Among the things that Terri was deprived of by Michael's orders were any kind of testing, dental care or stimulation.
I was ordered by my supervisors to limit my time with Terri. I recall telling my supervisor that Terri seemed abnormally warm to the touch. I was told to pull her covers down, rather than to take her temperature.
As far as I know, Terri never left her room. The only stimulation she had was looking out the window and watching things, and the radio, which Michael insisted be left on one particular station. She had a television, and there was a sign below it saying not to change the channel. This was because of Michael's orders.
18. As a CNA, I wanted every piece of information I could get about my patients. I never had access to medical records as a CNA, but it was part of my job duties to write my observations down on sheets of paper, which I turned over to the nurse at the nurses station for inclusion in the patients charts. In the case of Terri Schiavo, I felt that my notes were thrown out without even being read. There were trash cans at the nurses stations that we were supposed to empty each shift, and I often saw the notes in them. I made extensive notes and listed all of Terri's behaviors, but there was never any apparent follow up consistent with her responsiveness.
19. I discussed this situation with other personnel at Palm Gardens, particularly with Olga, and another CNA, an older black man named Ewan Morris. We all discussed the fact that we could be fired for reporting that Terri was responsive, and especially for giving her treatment. The advice among the staff was "don't do nothin', don't see nothin' and don't say nothin'." It was particularly distressing that we always had to be afraid that if Michael got upset, he would take his anger out on Terri.
20. I recall an incident when Olga became very upset because Terri started to get a sore spot, because it might lead to a bedsore. Michael was told about it but didn't seem to care. he didn't complain about it at all, in fact, saying "she doesn't know the difference." When Terri would get a UTI or was sick, Michael's mood would improve.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
Heidi Law, Affiant
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 30th day of August, 2003, by HEIDI LAW, who produced a Florida Driver's License as identification.
Notary Public
My Commission expires:
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 05:33 PM (knO2V)
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Firstbrokenangel
At first I felt as you do now, but as I looked in to the Terri Schiavo case; it became painfully clear to me that Michael not only did not care about his wife he wanted Terri to suffer.
Here are affidavits of three former nurses / caretakers of Terri Schiavo, relating their horror at the abusive treatment and lack of treatment regarding Terri's care.
NO RESUSCITATION (if needed);
NO ANTIBIOTICS FOR URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS!
NO REHABILITATION OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING RANGE OF MOTION AND STIMULATION!
NEVER ALLOWED TO LEAVE HER ROOM FOR FRESH AIR AND SUNSHINE!
APPARENT INSULIN REACTIONS AFTER MICHAEL'S VISITS (she is not diabetic)!
MORE! and MORE! and MORE!, all under the ORDERS OF MICHAEL SCHIAVO, the husband who convinced a jury that their large award would allow him to take her home and care for her for the rest of his life. His 'fiance' with whom he's lived for seven years is expecting their second child.
He was heard on a news broadcast saying Terri has received rehabilitation therapy for 13 years. He's received death threats and has temporarily moved from his present address. I wonder if Michael Schiavo will be able to sleep again? Or leave his home without a body guard? If something happened to him, who would get what's left of Terri's medical fund? His new wife? or the STATE? Doubtful he'll ever really feel safe or comfortable again, wondering. . .
Terri is bathed in the Light of God, the Love of God, the Presence of God, and the Protection of God. Hold her in your mind and heart; in your Love. -- Jackie -- Saturday, October 18th, 2003
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CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.
AFFIDAVIT
_________
STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:
1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make this statement of my own personal knowledge.
2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.
3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.
4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as extremely odd.
5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation. Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be close to Michael, was intimidated by him.
Michael Schiavo always had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as "This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you, getting right in your face and practically shouting.
6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing.
Michael said again and again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together, and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.
7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper and scooted in bed on her bottom.
8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a "hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body, upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well, writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act, and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.
9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member.
Other statements which I recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift.
Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they should know about their daughter.
10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI [urinary tract infection]or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like, "Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!" and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.
11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it.
This happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have any way of knowing for sure.
12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the reasons I've said, and other patients, too.
There was an LPN named Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift, but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as "They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact that it didn't seem to attract any attention.
She made many comments about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the time, too.)
Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."
13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would tell me afterward and relay orders from him.
14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by and let Terri die without the truth being known.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August, 2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license as identification, and who did take an oath.
Notary Public
My commission expires
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CAROLYN JOHNSON, CNA
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
AFFIDAVIT
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BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN JOHNSON who being first duly sworn deposes and says:
1. My name is Carolyn Johnson, I am over the age of 18 years and make this statement on personal information.
2. I used to work at Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, for a period of about two years. I actually was employed by a nursing agency and was placed at Sabal Palms as a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA). I believe the events related here occurred in about 1993.
3. During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times. The first time I saw her my duties were being explained to me by the nurse on duty. Terri Schiavo was lying in bed. Another patient, also a young woman about the same age and in the same condition, was sitting up in a chair, with a drink cup and straw in front of her.
4. I asked why Terri was not up in a chair, too. I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders.
5. No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly what Michael said to do.
6. I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions. Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation.
7. This entire experience made me look hard at nursing homes. After about two years, I quit this job, because I was so disillusioned with the way Terri was treated. Someone somewhere along the way should have reported this.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
Carolyn Johnson, Affiant
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 28 day of August, 2003, by Carolyn Johnson who produced a Florida drivers license as identification.
Notary Public
My commission expires
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HEIDI LAW, CNA
AFFIDAVIT
_________
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared HEIDI LAW who
being first duly sworn deposes and says:
1. My name is Heidi Law, I am over the age of 18 years, and make this statement on personal information.
2. I worked as a Certified Nursing Assistant at the Palm Gardens nursing home from March, 1997 to mid-summer of 1997. While I was employed at Palm Gardens, occasionally I took care of Theresa Schiavo. Generally, I worked the 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. shift, but occasionally also would work a double shift, until 7 a.m. the following morning.
3. At Palm Gardens, most of the patient care was provided by the CNAs, so I was in a good position to judge Terri's condition and observe her reactions. Terri was noticeable, because she was the youngest patient at Palm Gardens.
4. I know that Terri did not receive routine physical therapy or any other kind of therapy. I was personally aware of orders for rehabilitation that were not being carried out. Even though they were ordered, Michael would stop them. Michael ordered that Terri receive no rehabilitation or range of motion therapy. I and Olga would give Terri range of motion anyway, but we knew we were endangering our jobs by doing so. We usually did this behind closed doors, we were so fearful of being caught. Our hearts would race and we were always looking out for Michael, because we knew that, not only would Michael take his anger out on us, but he would take it out more on Terri. We spoke of this many times.
5. Terri had very definite likes and dislikes. Olga and I used to call Terri "Fancy Pants," because she was so particular about certain things. She just adored her baths, and was so happy afterward when she was all clean, smelling sweet from the lotion her mother provided, and wearing the soft nightgowns her mother laundered for her. Terri definitely did not like the taste of the teeth-cleaning swabs or the mouthwash we used. She liked to have her hair combed. She did not like being tucked in, and especially hated it if her legs were tightly tucked. You would always tell when Terri had a bowel movement, as she seem agitated and would sort of "scoot" to get away from it.
6. Every day, Terri was gotten up after lunch and sat in a chair all afternoon. When Terri was in bed, she very much preferred to lie on her right side and look out the window. We always said that she was watching for her mother. It was very obvious that her mother was her favorite person in the whole world.
7. I worked side-by-side with another CNA named Olga and could tell that she and Terri were especially close. Olga took a definite personal interest in Terri, and Terri responded to her. I could tell that Terri was very satisfied and happy with Olga's attentions to her.
8. When Olga was talking with Terri, Terri would follow Olga with her eyes. I have no doubt in my mind that Terri understood what Olga was saying to her. I could tell a definite difference between the way Terri responded to Olga and the way she reacted to me, until she got used to my taking care of her. Initially, she "clammed up" with me, the way she would with anyone she did not know or was not familiar or comfortable with. It took about the fourth or fifth time taking care of her alone, without Olga, that Terri became relaxed and cooperative and non-resistant with me.
9. Terri reacted very well to seeing a picture of her mother, which was in her room. Many times when I came on duty it would be lying face down where she could not see it.
10. At least three times during any shift where I took care of Terri, I made sure to give Terri a wet washcloth filled with ice chips, to keep her mouth moistened. I personally saw her swallow the ice water and never saw her gag. Olga and I frequently put orange juice or apple juice in her washcloth to give her something nice to taste, which made her happy. On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was so afraid of being caught by Michael.
11. On one occasion Michael Schiavo arrived with his girlfriend, and they entered Terri's room together. I heard Michael tell his girlfriend that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and was dying. After they left, Olga told me that Terri was extremely agitated and upset, and wouldn't react to anyone. When she was upset, which was usually the case after Michael was there, she would withdraw for hours. We were convinced that he was abusing her, and probably saying cruel, terrible things to her because she would be so upset when he left.
12. In the past, I have taken care of comatose patients, including those in a persistent vegetative state. While it is true that those patients will flinch or make sounds occasionally, they don't do it as a reaction to someone on a constant basis who is taking care of them, the way I saw Terri do.
13. I witnessed a priest visiting Terri a couple of times. Terri would become quiet when he prayed with her. She couldn't bow her head because of her stiff neck, but she would still try. During the prayer, she would keep her eyes closed, opening them afterward. She laughed at jokes he told her. I definitely know that Terri "is in there."
14. The Palm Gardens staff, myself included, were just amazed that a "Do Not Resuscitate" order had been put on Terri's chart, considering her age and her obvious cognitive awareness of her surroundings.
15. During the time I cared for Terri, she formed words. I have heard her say "mommy" from time to time, and "momma," and she also said "help me" a number of times. She would frequently make noises like she was trying to talk. Other staff members talked about her verbalizations.
16. Several times when Michael visited Terri during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. This worried me because I didn't trust Michael. When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists and some times had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy. It would take much more time and effort than usual to work her hands open to clean her palms.
17. I was told by supervisory staff that Michael was Terri's legal guardian, and that it didn't matter what the parents or the doctors or nurses wanted, just do what Michael told you to do or you will lose your job. Michael would override the orders of the doctors and nurses to make sure Terri got no treatment. Among the things that Terri was deprived of by Michael's orders were any kind of testing, dental care or stimulation.
I was ordered by my supervisors to limit my time with Terri. I recall telling my supervisor that Terri seemed abnormally warm to the touch. I was told to pull her covers down, rather than to take her temperature.
As far as I know, Terri never left her room. The only stimulation she had was looking out the window and watching things, and the radio, which Michael insisted be left on one particular station. She had a television, and there was a sign below it saying not to change the channel. This was because of Michael's orders.
18. As a CNA, I wanted every piece of information I could get about my patients. I never had access to medical records as a CNA, but it was part of my job duties to write my observations down on sheets of paper, which I turned over to the nurse at the nurses station for inclusion in the patients charts. In the case of Terri Schiavo, I felt that my notes were thrown out without even being read. There were trash cans at the nurses stations that we were supposed to empty each shift, and I often saw the notes in them. I made extensive notes and listed all of Terri's behaviors, but there was never any apparent follow up consistent with her responsiveness.
19. I discussed this situation with other personnel at Palm Gardens, particularly with Olga, and another CNA, an older black man named Ewan Morris. We all discussed the fact that we could be fired for reporting that Terri was responsive, and especially for giving her treatment. The advice among the staff was "don't do nothin', don't see nothin' and don't say nothin'." It was particularly distressing that we always had to be afraid that if Michael got upset, he would take his anger out on Terri.
20. I recall an incident when Olga became very upset because Terri started to get a sore spot, because it might lead to a bedsore. Michael was told about it but didn't seem to care. he didn't complain about it at all, in fact, saying "she doesn't know the difference." When Terri would get a UTI or was sick, Michael's mood would improve.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
Heidi Law, Affiant
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 30th day of August, 2003, by HEIDI LAW, who produced a Florida Driver's License as identification.
Notary Public
My Commission expires:
Posted by: JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 03, 2005 05:35 PM (knO2V)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by: Jennifer Roberts at July 03, 2005 07:12 PM (CjLwl)
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this comment is for finally croaked and terri must die.. you two are in a class all of your own
two mother fuckin' cockroaches taking up this blogs space.. i got an idea why don't you leeches just drop off the face of the earth already nobody would miss your worm infested corpses... the one that talks about flipping cheeseburgers ought to choke on one and when he clenches his throat then that retarded mother fucker will know how terri felt and i hope terri gets the priviledge of sending your ass to hell
where satan will have a field day on your ass..
satans torture lasts an eternity not just 13 days.. god sees and hears all so the heartless pieces of dog shit i have seen on this blog will definatly NOT win a place in the house of the lord... i'd rather see Terri's face all over the news then to see you cock rocken son-of-a-bitches downing her for a cause that she had no control over... GROW THE FUCK UP i hope when you die Catherine and I get the priviledge of spitting, pissing and shitting on you're graves..
that would be funny
so tell me how does it feel to be disrespected and lowered as a human being?
you two need to move to the barnum and berry's circus you'd fit in just fine for the class clowns of the year award...
i have never seen so much ignorance and lack of respect for a human being that was murdered as i did in this blog
these three ass holes that put such fuckin nasty ignorant prototypes in these blogs should be banned for life.. i for one and catherine for two
ban these heartless incapable bastards from all blogs concerning terri(the three of you are as follows, terri should die, terri must die today, and finally croaked) you three are such cowards you won't put your real names to the public eye because you know that this blog will open a can of woopass real quick...
i pray to god that you motherfuckers one day get to be first in line in terris shoes and i hope that not one person misses you when you die after having every bone in your body broke, you go into a semi vegetable state and someone slowly tortures you guys then YOU DIE then when terri sees you in the gates of heaven she spits on you and pulls the lever for you to go deep down into the pits and tunnels of hell
where you would get along just fine with the devil himself and the party of a lifetime would be us knowing your being tortured eternally for the assholes that you are
ps. for all the ones that feel the same a i do in the terri schiavo case god bless and may god keep you safe in his arms
Posted by JENNIFER ROBERTS at July 3, 2005 01:
Posted by: Jennifer Roberts at July 04, 2005 10:11 PM (bxBlz)
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Hay, Finally Crocked, did you become a drooling idiot after MICHAEL FUCKED YOU IN YOUR ASS or did you have SHITSTAINS?
Did you have your liquid sandwiches before you gave Michael Schiavo a BLOW JOB or after?
OH, that explains why he's your IDOL.
Terri was a BEAUTIFULL HUMAN BEING who made the mistake of marrying Michael Schiavo.
PUNK, DON'T SAY ANOTHER FUCKEN THING ABOUT TERRI
Posted by: Catheirne Woodward at July 04, 2005 11:03 PM (bxBlz)
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Diane Meyer remembers when she was Terri Schindler, a chubby child with big brown eyes behind Coke-bottle glasses, a guest at MeyerÂ’s 3rd-birthday party at the Philadelphia Zoo.
As the birthday girl, Diane was given a key to storybooks posted around the zoo. Turn the key, and a recorded voice would talk about the animals. Other children at the party wanted a key, too, and were jealous.
But not Terri. “She was just so excited,” so happy to be there, so thrilled to among the animals she loved more than anything in the world, Meyer said.
This is the Terri she remembers — not the heartbreaking figure whose every facial tic was scrutinized for evidence of a conscious mind within. Not the central figure of a maelstrom, silent as multitudes debated her life and death.
For those multitudes who never knew her, it was easy to forget that this was a real woman who led a real life. But for her friends and family, it was impossible to forget
Meyer, for instance, remembers the time more than 20 years ago when an excited Terri called her at college. She had a date — the first date this once overweight girl had ever had. Please, Terri begged, you have to come home and help me get ready.
Meyer couldnÂ’t make it home in time, but she was there the next day, to rehash TerriÂ’s spectacular night of romance. The boy was tall and handsome and he had kissed her.
The boy was Michael Schiavo; she had met him at a sociology class at Bucks County Community College, and they married a little more than a year later.
He would be her only lover.
She did not go to her senior prom. She had had crushes, of course, unrequited — a boy named Vincent in seventh grade, for one. She adored Danielle Steel romances, pored over Tiger Beat magazine with her friends, debated who was cutest — Starsky or Hutch. She liked Starsky, and with her friend Sue Pickwell wrote scores of letters to Paul Michael Glaser, the actor.
Once, she and Meyer went to see “An Officer and a Gentleman” four times in one day.
She was a shy person. Her high school yearbook, from Archbishop Wood in suburban Philadelphia, lists only one activity — library aide. The Rev. Chris Walsh, the school minister, said while several teachers remain from those days, only one remembers Terri, and not much about her.
Benjamin Shatz lived next to the Schindlers’ four-bedroom colonial on Red Wing Lane in the Albidale section of Huntingdon Valley. All he remembers is “a nice child, respectful, polite.”
Her shyness may have had something to do with her weight. Just 5-foot-3, she weighed 200 pounds in high school. “She cried a lot when she went to get clothes,” said her mother, Mary.
But Meyer remembers laughter, instead. “Among those who knew her, she was always vivacious. She had a laugh that made everyone laugh,” she said.
She collected Precious Moments figurines, and stuffed animals — she had more than 100 of them, and spent hours in her purple-and-white bedroom arranging them. Real animals were her passion; she rode horses and wanted to be a veterinarian, but she was an unenthusiastic student and never graduated college.
Once, she came home crying at night, sure that she had run over a rabbit or squirrel. Her family calmed her down and convinced her no animal had died, but then her brother Bobby retrieved the dead bunny and threw it in the bushes, so sheÂ’d never know.
Another time, the familyÂ’s Labrador retriever Bucky collapsed, and Terri tried to give him mouth-to-muzzle resuscitation. He died as she held him.
The Schindlers — Mary and Robert (owner of an industrial equipment company) and their children Theresa Marie, Bobby and Suzanne — were a tight-knit family. Terri joined her mother for Mass on Saturdays, and all would gather round the table for roast beef on Sunday.
She was especially close to her mother. “When people say I was her best friend, I say no,” said Meyer. “I was her closest friend. Her mother was her best friend.”
After she and Michael were married — on Nov. 10, 1984, at Our Lady of Good Counsel Church, she in Victorian white with a pink-and-white bouquet, he in a gray tuxedo — the couple lived in the Schindlers’ basement.
In 1986, they moved into a condominium her parents owned in Florida, paying $400-a-month rent; the rest of the Schindlers also moved to the Sunshine State.
By this time, the 200-pound Terri was no more. Dieting, she had lost more than 50 pounds by the time she started college. She dyed her hair blonde, wore a bikini, liked to tan and drive her Trans Am past construction sites.
“Terri has always been beautiful from the inside out,” Meyer said. “And then when she lost all the weight, she really became quite beautiful on the outside as well. What was inside she allowed to shine out at that point.”
In Florida, Michael was hired as a restaurant manager, and Terri was an office worker for Prudential insurance. “Everybody liked her. She was hardworking,” said Jackie Rhodes, a co-worker and pal. (search)
They would shop for clothes and eat at BenniganÂ’s. When a colleague ran a golf benefit for Angelus House, a home for the handicapped, Terri and Jackie volunteered. Rhodes joined Terri in her frequent visits to see her grandmother at a nursing home 30 miles away.
Was she happy? Rhodes said she wanted to have children and had stopped using birth control, but had not become pregnant. She had seen a doctor about it.
Her friends and family say she was unhappy with Michael. He was controlling, they say, and tried to keep her away from them; he was abusive, they say, and told her that if she ever got fat again, he would leave her.
By this time, she weighed less than 120 pounds, and her ribs were visible.
“I eat, Mom. I eat,” she told her concerned mother.
Her family doubts that she had a real eating disorder; her doctors are not sure whether anorexia or something like it was the root of the potassium imbalance they say probably caused her heart to stop on Feb. 25, 1990, when she collapsed in the hallway outside of her bedroom.
She was 26 years old, an ordinary woman about to be thrust — unwillingly, unknowingly, unconsciously — into an extraordinary adventure. She died 15 years later, a symbol to millions around the world, a person to those who knew and mourned her.
PS: What I really want people to see; is that TERRI SCHIAVO was a real person who had a life until MICHAEL SCHIAVO started his mental and phyical abuse.
Sadly, Michael was successful in his ability to do the unthinkable with the help of Judge Greer. Which was to TORTURE AND STARVE TERRI SCHIAVE TO DEATH.
To sign the petition to impeach Judge Greer; type in the words (PETITION TO IMPEACH JUDGE GREER)
Posted by: Catheirne Woodward at July 10, 2005 11:49 PM (3ir9P)
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