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February 23, 2006

Michelle Malkin Site Under Cyberattack

Michelle Malkin's website was down for most of the morning, presumably due to a Denial of Service attack from hackers. The site was back up as of around 10:30, when Malkin posted, noting that the FBI had been informed of the attack.

In an update posted at Pajamas Media, where Malkin rode out the attack, she notes that investigators have confirmed a DoS attack, apparently originating in Turkey.

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.

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Second Able Danger Conference Call Tonight

I'll be participating in a second conference call about Able Danger tonight. Representative Curt Weldon will update bloggers on the latest developments and take questions. This is a follow-up to this call with Mark Zaid, who represents Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and others. The call is scheduled for 6PM ET and will last for about an hour and a half, so I may have something to post about it later in the evening.

Both calls were arranged by Mike Kaspar of the Able Danger Blog.

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.

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February 22, 2006

UAE Port Deal Argument A Red Herring

The squabble over whether or not to allow a United Arab Emirates company control over shipping operations at six major US seaports is a red herring. The real issue is the shameful state of port security, part of an overall slackening of security measures.

Following 9/11 a wave of public outrage forced the formation of the Transportation Security Administration to replace private security firms at the nation's airports. The plan then was for the TSA to live up to the ""transportation" part of its title and eventually take over security at seaports, railroad stations, bus stations...everywhere that mass transit operated. more...

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1 So your arguement that it's a red herring is this? "The bottom line is that Islamist terrorists don't really need help from a middle eastern company to penetrate security at our ports." Nice. We should just give 'em visa's too. You know since they can cross the northern and southern borders what's the point in preventing them from entering via an airport? We can be all up in arms over China filtering free speech ... but don't stand in the way of free trade no matter who the trading partner is.

Posted by: David at February 22, 2006 12:41 PM (BhVb3)

2 Bluto is right, I'm not sure of the reasons or the purpose but bluto's reason is as good as any. This frames some issues in some very interesting ways in some very interersting places. It's not what it appears at first glance. Could be realted to framing the security issue for the elections. It gives both the left and right in congress a way to distance themselves from Bush among other things I mentioned on Rusty's thread a few posts down. It helps congress domestically and Bush abroad.

Posted by: Howie at February 22, 2006 12:52 PM (D3+20)

3 That's right. The UAE port deal squabble is just a feelgood-look-at-how-brave-and-vigilant-I-am clusterfuck that doesn't mean shit.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 12:53 PM (RHG+K)

4 Don't worry about it, the UAE muslims are our friends. They really like us, they are the moderate muslims.

Posted by: john ryan at February 22, 2006 01:04 PM (TcoRJ)

5 You make a good point, but I'd especially disagree with what you wrote about screeners at our airports. We spend far too much on airport security. It's dispraportionate to the threat. I think I'll post something on it with reference to "prospect theory" and the "status quo effect"

Posted by: Rusty at February 22, 2006 01:24 PM (JQjhA)

6 I disagree, Rusty, but if you want any information for your post just ask. There are some things I can't tell you without going to Leavenworth, but enough info is unclassified and/or already out there to curl your toes. Remember, the big show is at the major airports. TSA makes sure that they have a surfeit of screeners there to convince the public that all is well. The small airports have been stripped to accomplish this. Of course, some of this is just because an FSD at a Cat X airport just has more juice than one at a Cat II, but the result is the same. Ask yourself this: "Am I comfortable with regional airports near the Canadian border being understaffed?"

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 01:37 PM (RHG+K)

7 Yes, I am. Since 9/11, the danger to us has been severely minimized. Sreeners are, in my estimation, mostly wasted money. Unless the target is blowing up an airplane--unlike 9/11--then terrorists probably won't use planes again. Why? Because they're not stupid. They know that people on board the plane will not let them use it as a bomb. Thus, the probability that they will hijack planes for the purpose of turning it into a missile, are much lower today than prior to 9/11. The "status quo effect" is when people use past phenomenon to judge the risk of future events. It is a risk aversion fallacy becaue we tend to overestimate the risk of events that have already occured (another 9/11 plane scenario) and underestimate scenarios that have never happned (nuclear bomb in NY Harbor). The example of 9/11 clearly illustrates the "status quo effecc". Prior to 9/11, airport security focused on screening for a) hijackers who had no intention of dying b) bombs set to blow up the plane. Because those two types of events had happened in the past, we misallocated resources to screen for them in the future. However, because learning occurs, risks change over time. Risk estimation tends to be "sticky" because it is difficult to estimate the probability of an event occuring in the future which has never happened in the past. It seems to me that we should be using our scarce resources to protect against terror events that have not yet occured, and therefore seem exploitable weaknesses to intelligent terrorists.

Posted by: Rusty at February 22, 2006 02:08 PM (PEYEf)

8 I find the President's personal position to be even more curious, under this red herring theory. When the inevitable security failure occurs, which it will with 2% lowfat inspections, you know the evil UAE infrastructure will be blamed, instead of the incompetent government flunky. This points the dagger of blame to President Bush, instead of the TSA. National security is priority one. .

Posted by: Insolublog at February 22, 2006 03:00 PM (DSeW+)

9 Rusty, I am in complete agreement with you. I think it is highly unlikely that we will see another 9/11 airliner-missle type scenario, but a dirty bomb or even perhaps a small nuclear device is possible, although not likely. I think that the terrorists are much more likely to hit a mall, perhaps(and I dread to say it) a school, or a hospital, in a series of small attacks that could cause more casualties than 9/11. We are vulnerable to these attacks, especially in blue states where citizens do not have firearms or know how to use them. The local police are woefully unprepared to deal with this kind of terrorism, and that is why it is so important for citizens to be alert and armed. Our best defense against this type of attack is an alert citizen.

Posted by: jesusland joe at February 22, 2006 03:40 PM (rUyw4)

10 Rusty, it may surprise you to know that I agree with you vis-a-vis the nature of the threat - and so does the TSA. Terrorists will likely be ripped to shreds attempting a 9/11 type hijacking today. That's why the emphasis in screening has moved to IEDs. If a terrorist gets a plane-destroying IED past security (and you would be amazed at how small a main charge that takes) and detonates it say on final descent to JFK; well, sir, we'd have a casualty rate that would be just unacceptably high.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 04:30 PM (RHG+K)

11 Bluto Reference the TSA taking over all those responsibilities including mass trasit - they were over-reaching coming out the gate. Multi-state, state and local authorities were no way going to give them up or lose any control (security or otherwise) over them. It was a dead issue from the start. Federal money & funding after 9/11 has been a giant cash cow, and non-federal govt entities were not going to give up any access or control because of it, and jeopardize their cut.

Posted by: hondo at February 22, 2006 04:49 PM (fyKFC)

12 One more thing Bluto when it comes to "security" - look at all the local pols screaming for "more funding". Accountiblity of money has been virtually nil - diversions have been widespread and massive. There is a scandal brewing under the surface that probably will not see the light of day for 20 years. Just a taste - city of NO & state of LA was awarded millions in security funding for communications, emergency response services etc. The money was "spend" but nobody knows on what.

Posted by: hondo at February 22, 2006 04:58 PM (fyKFC)

13 Sorry, hondo, you're wrong on this one. That was the plan out of the gate, but TSA management squandered too much of their budget. As for the state and local folks not being willing to give up control. They weren't willing to let the airports be Federalized, either, but that's what happened. Whether they stay Federalized or not is another matter.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 05:25 PM (RHG+K)

14 What's shameful is that the people of this country have become degenerate to the point that we will allow such things to even be contemplated. We need a good, old-fashioned revolution, complete with the mass hanging of scumbags; liberals, politicians, lawyers, muslims, et al.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 22, 2006 05:44 PM (0yYS2)

15 Bluto - After reading your comment, I revised my blog post to reflect that you and Rusty had different perspectives on the issue. You will be happy to know that NEITHER of my readers is likely to be confused in light of my revised post. - Eman

Posted by: Eman at February 22, 2006 09:16 PM (c/4ax)

16 You are all right . The Dubai authorities lack in transparency and past of being among only 3 countries recognizing the Taliban government does not make UAE or even Saudi any safer. On the other hand their option to join hands with terrorists can not be ignored after reading about what Koran says about Muslims vs. Non - muslims.

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February 21, 2006

Al Qaeda Looking For White "Sleepers"

The trial of an Australian renegade named Joseph Thomas, who is accused of working with Al Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan, may have revealed that Osama bin Laden is trying to recruit Caucasians.

From UPI:

Western intelligence services are increasingly nervous about al-Qaida attempts to recruit white men and women, as they can more easily pass in Western society.
Australia's Herald Sun reported that an ongoing court case in Melbourne uncovered an al-Qaida attempt to recruit Caucasian "sleeper agents."
Australian defendant Joseph Thomas told his police interrogators that Khalid bin Attash, an associate of Osama bin Laden, said that bin Laden was interested in having "an Aussie ... a white boy," according to testimony in Melbourne's Supreme Court.
Prosecutor Nick Robinson alleged that Thomas's conversations with bin Attash occurred in Pakistan, where Thomas was staying at an al-Qaida safe house after training at the group's al-Farooq camp in Afghanistan during 2001.

Presumably, the Caucasians would be mercenaries. Anyone care to bet that there aren't plenty of whites willing to help out AQ for enough green?

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.

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February 20, 2006

Conference Call on the Able Danger Hearings With Attorney Mark Zaid

This evening I participated in a conference call about the Able Danger hearings with Mark Zaid, attorney for Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and other Able Danger figures, with several other bloggers. The call was organized by Mike Kasper of the Able Danger Blog.

The bloggers were:

Ed Morrissey of Captain's Quarters
AJ Strata of The Strata-Sphere
Mark Coffey of Decision '08
QT Monster's Place
Pierre of The Pink Flamingo Bar & Grill
Rory O'Connor
Moi, representing The Dread Pundit Bluto , The Jawa Report, and Vince Aut Morire. more...

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1 I find the "able danger" threads on Jawa to be the least commented on, although for me the subject is very interesting. What a fine job the MSM has made of making sure this story doesn't get big.

Posted by: dave at February 21, 2006 12:38 AM (CcXvt)

2 I've read, watched and listened to as much info as I can find on the Able Danger program and I really do believe this is a huge and very credible story. It's easy to be skeptical because, unfortunately, on the surface it just sounds like a 'fringe' conspiracy theory. It is fairly complicated and I think some of the impact gets lost in the details. Does anyone know if Sen. Specter plans to continue his hearings at some point? He seemed appropriately outraged at the hearing in Sept. 05.

Posted by: JohnM at February 21, 2006 02:13 AM (K8Iva)

3 It's my understanding that Atta's photo was supplied by a woman (either in California or from there) who worked for a security contractor, hired by Orion Scientific, that obtained his photo and other militants by surveilling a mosque. It is also my understanding that the photo we see regularly now of Atta was not the photo that was on the missing/destroyed chart. Who that security contractor was - I don't know.

Posted by: Oyster at February 21, 2006 06:27 AM (YudAC)

4 did you see the part about that the data they mined was so vast they had to mount sections of the relationship tables on twenty-foot boards with tiny text, and was over two Terabytes disk storage? For someone that works with Gigabyte databases, that to me is mind boggling -- especially as I know exactly how much data is available in a Database not even 0.5% of the size of able danger.

Posted by: dave at February 21, 2006 10:19 AM (CcXvt)

5 I haven't commented on it because nothing is going to come of it anyway. This country is so screwed up that the only thing that can save it is a massive bloodletting. We need a good, old-fashioned revolution.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 04:42 PM (0yYS2)

6 Why doesn't this information get national news coverage? I think the answer to that one is that the Administration has complete control of the major networks.

Posted by: Earl J Prignitz at February 22, 2006 10:20 AM (A9bgE)

7 The reason why the "Able Danger" story doesn't get national media attention is perfectly clear. The media is controlled by the Bush Administration, period.

Posted by: Earl J Prignitz at February 22, 2006 10:24 AM (A9bgE)

8 Yes, Earl a story that would put the Clinton Administration into bad light due to the fact that four of the 9-11 hijackers were identified as early as 2000, and all action was stopped due to the Clintons "judicial wall" is being held up by the Bush Administration. Perhaps you might want to actually read about Able Danger.

Posted by: dave at February 22, 2006 11:07 AM (CcXvt)

9 Dave, if you are not just incredibly ignorant of this subject, then you are definitely an operative for an organization with a sinister agenda... Everyone who has taken the time to read these comments should read Colonel Shaffer's sworn testimony in its entirety, found here: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2006_hr/index.html#ad

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February 18, 2006

Indian-American-Indian Ups Ante On The Filthy One

Indian state minister ups the fatwa money.

Amidst protests in Uttar Pradesh against the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed, a state minister Friday announced a reward of Rs.510 million ($11.5 million) for anyone who beheaded the artists responsible for the cartoons.

Looks like we need to set up a donation system for The Filthy Report.

Stein hoist to Patrick al-Kafir

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1 At this point the only thing I'm capable of is my gut reaction: I wish all these haters were killed. That won't happen, so, shit. I like the Jawa Report and do believe this news is necessary, but it would be nice to see more good stuff. I know its out there ;-)

Posted by: Javapuke at February 18, 2006 05:53 PM (1uSlN)

2 Look for the reaction from the Indian government and the majority Hindi population - it's gonna be important. The islamists are on a multi-lane highway to hell - and we're not the only ones in their path.

Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 05:55 PM (fyKFC)

3 Javapuke, I hired Rusty to post on the good stuff that's out there.

Posted by: Vinnie at February 18, 2006 06:27 PM (f289O)

4 hondo, I had no idea that there were so many Muslims in India until I received some death threats from India. India? After a google check, I saw that India is home to over 100 million Muslims. I was shocked. But not at the death threats from Muslims, as that goes with the territory.

Posted by: jesusland joe at February 18, 2006 07:03 PM (rUyw4)

5 JJ Last time they had an internal argument with the muslims (just a few years ago) - it left apx 3000 dead from street fighting. There is some serious bad blood there going back centuries. An oddity for you - The most successful best educated muslim communities in the world are found in India (and in the west). Go figure.

Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 09:06 PM (fyKFC)

6 There is some serious bad blood there going back centuries. I'll say: All Standard reference books agree that the name 'Hindu Kush' of the mountain range in Eastern Afganistan means 'Hindu Slaughter' or 'Hindu Killer'. History also reveals that until 1000 A.D. the area of Hindu Kush was a full part of Hindu cradle. More likely, the mountain range was deliberately named as 'Hindu Slaughter' by the Moslem conquerors, as a lesson to the future generations of Indians. However Indians in general, and Hindus in particular are completely oblivious to this tragic genocide. This article also looks into the reasons behind this ignorance. http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_kush.html

Posted by: dave at February 19, 2006 09:16 AM (CcXvt)

7 Dave, the Hindu Kush got the name from all the Hindu captives that died in the crossing after they had been taken by muslim slave raiders. People taken suddenly from their homes and fields have little opportunity to dress for a trek in the Himalayas.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 02:25 PM (0yYS2)

8 Muslim slave traders? IM, surely you jest! I thought it was only wicked Southerners who participated in the slave trade. Are you sure?

Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 02:35 PM (rUyw4)

9 We have lots of liberal cartoonists who have hurled insults at christians but we never asked for the heads even in that crappy DOONSBURY when it was insulting RONALD REAGAN all we did was get it removed from our news papers

Posted by: sandpiper at February 19, 2006 10:14 PM (stdEd)

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Taliban Supporters Behind New York Rally Against Muhammed Cartoons

I have already posted about the fact that the Islamic Thinkers Society was behind the New York rally in front of the Danish embassy. This is the same group that burned the American flag, celebrated 9/11, and warned that 'next time, we will get all of NYC.' Here is an admission from the group that they a) organized the rally to condemn the Muhammed cartoon b) share the same goals as al Qaeda and the Taliban--the revival of the Caliphate, institution of sharia (Islamic) law, the building of a utopian Islamic society, and the domination of the world by Muslims

Here is a screenshot of the announcement from their webpage. [click to zoom]

And a statement of their goals:

Our objective is to resume the Islamic way of life to which will fulfill the purpose of the aim. Our objective is to bring back the apparatus that was destroyed in 1924 i.e. Khilafah. Indeed it was the Khilafah that united the Muslim Ummah under one flag, one land, one border, and one leader. It was the Khilafah which served as the appartus to make sure that Tawheed manifested in all ascpect in the Muslim Ummah's affairs. Surely, anyone who accepts any other system than Allah's Shari'ah is worshipping the one who has put his laws in place of the laws of Allah. This is a major form of shirk and anyone who commits a major shirk has left Islam....

Let me remind you that the penalty for leaving Islam, especially under their version of sharia, is death. More:

This is what we, as part of Islamic Thinkers Society strive for. To create the ideal Islamic society, where the furqan(criterion) for the individuals as well as the rulers will be the Qur'an & Sunnah and the Qur'an & Sunnah only. As always, our struggle is intellectual & political. To us, this is a matter of life & death. A matter of jannah & jahannam. It requires seriousness, dedication, & sabr.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have found the American Taliban, and it is operating openly in New York City!

According to their own website, they are 'less than a handful of people'. Here is a photo of the rally by 'less than a handful of people'. I hope the FBI is keeping close tabs on this group of extremists. The MSM certainly isn't.

Do they really support terrorism? YES!

From their forum rules:

ABSOLUTELELY NO RIDICULING OF THE MUJAHIDEEN, THE SCHOLARS OF HAQQ, & THE SINCERE DA'WAH CARRIERS OF ISLAM.

Yup, they're just upset over the Muhammed cartoons.

Oh, and what do we have hear? It appears that The Jawa Report has been brought to the attention of this little band of terror supporters. The referring url takes us back to a discussion forum run by the Islamic Thinkers Society. I wonder what I could have said that would piss them off?

Did I mention they have an e-mail? info@IslamicThinkers.com

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1 There is a terrorist website working openly in Sweden too: http://www.tawheed.se

Posted by: Fred Fry at February 18, 2006 03:07 PM (HJnrm)

2 They're pretty much in every country.

Posted by: Rusty at February 18, 2006 03:57 PM (JQjhA)

3 Rusty Not very bright when you really think about it. Never let your emotions dictate your actions - stay cool - watch - learn - take names - wait. Which is why Maxie (if your listening) you would have made a poor trooper in my plt.

Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 06:06 PM (fyKFC)

4 Oh I'm sorry hondo, I didn't realize that being passionate about the survival of civilization was a negative trait, especially since it got me through a war and several years of cold war and "peacetime" service, and will see me through our coming difficulties. Don't get confused, just because I hate muslims, liberals, and cowards doesn't mean that my emotions control me, I've read Sun Tzu too, ya know. And you can take your opinion of my soldiering skills and shove them up your ass while you're at it, because you don't know shit about me, and you don't seem to have the balls for this fight, so stay home and let the men handle it if you can't take it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 18, 2006 06:18 PM (0yYS2)

5 Ah Maxie Your reaction was predictable.

Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 06:28 PM (fyKFC)

6 IM, you're not at all alone in this, though most will not agree openly for reasons of unnamed fears. Where do you hail from, if I might ask?

Posted by: forest hunter at February 18, 2006 10:16 PM (Fq6zR)

7 forest hunter, Maxie wouldn't mind me telling you that he is from Tennessee. He was raised Christian but is now an atheist, although I have high hopes he will return to his Christian roots. He is a veteran of the Gulf War and now works as a photographer.

Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 12:02 AM (rUyw4)

8 Thanks JJ- Where are you from? I'm still waiting for the info requested weeks ago-TPS REPORTS? Will nobody inform the humble dummy? What does it mean?

Posted by: forest hunter at February 19, 2006 12:13 AM (Fq6zR)

9 Hondo, don't even try bud, my kung-fu is too strong. You may take my ruthless attitude as intemperance, but to me, your attitude smacks of a lack of resolve. If you're not in it to win, don't get in the game. I will win even if I have to stand on a mountain of bodies to do it, and even if the last body on the mountain is mine. Hey JJ, you forgot to tell him what I like for breakfast.

By the way, I never left my Christian roots, I just don't believe in any sort of divinity. In other words, I'm a pious heretic.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 09:22 AM (0yYS2)

10 Haha, ok, Maxie, but one can hope. And I didn't want to tell the forest hunter everything. Forest hunter, I'm from West Texas, and East Texas, and Arkansas. My daddy's from Kerrville, my momma is from Arkansas, and I've lived in all these places, plus Oklahoma. Oil patch kid.

Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 01:31 PM (rUyw4)

11 JJ, that's you all over!

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 02:27 PM (0yYS2)

12 I spent a sticky month or so in Oklahoma as a guest of the US Army. It was an interesting chapter of my life and tormenting my army brothers kept the boredom at bay. Two dozen of us and hundreds of them = a win win situation, if ever there was one. I don't know what the Gunny had done to be permanently attached to that assignment, never saw that red eyed basturd smile once. He could get a decent workout just by hoisting his arm to scratch his forehead, he had so many hash marks. Our first day there, filed off the bus and standing there formed up, getting our asses ate out. Just like home I thought to myself. We hadn't even done anything..... yet! Breathing was off limits, unless and until.....blah, blah, blah! ......and Lawton! That's a city? Country boys like me don't belong in places like that. IM- My mountain'll be bigger than yours!

Posted by: forest hunter at February 19, 2006 05:05 PM (Fq6zR)

13 Islamic thinkers... isn't that an oxymoron?

Posted by: tee bee at February 20, 2006 02:12 PM (q1JHF)

14 Remember that it is not just terrorism and hate that these people bring. They bring their slaves, their honor killings, their misogyny, and their pedophilia that their beloved prophet extolled. They want to change the world into their culture. They make the Aryan Nations and the KKK look like a ladies quilting club. Americans systematically run those hate groups out of town, why canÂ’t we do it with these sickos? IÂ’ll tell you why: because they dress different and speak a different language and most Americans donÂ’t understand their hate. Thank God for the net.

Posted by: cactus at February 20, 2006 10:08 PM (QrT+O)

15 Good hunting, forest.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 04:50 PM (0yYS2)

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Muslim To Muslim: 'Spreading the word'

Karim El Sahy has a message for Muslims via Egyptian Sandmonkey), and we agree with ESM that it should be spread to the entire Muslim world.

Please go read it, link to it, and help pass it around!

As a courtesy to Karim, in order to help him get his message out, his entire post is reposted below (Please visit Karim's site for updates): more...

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Should Congress Investigate the ACLU?

Jay at Stop the ACLU is calling on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate the activities of the ACLU. Among other things, Jay cites dissension within the ACLU ranks resulting in multiple resignations and ACLU spying on their own members.

One of the most troubling points is that in 2004 the ACLU refused to accept $1.15 million in grants from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations because:

Â“The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that Â“promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.Â”
The Rockefeller FoundationÂ’s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not Â“directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.Â”

The ACLU was later successful in getting these minor requirements scrapped.

Why?

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.

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February 17, 2006

Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train (Updted)

UPDATE: Pakistani cleric with ties to this group has placed a $1,000 bounty on Danish cartoonist's head.

Disturbing report from WND about terror groups using Islamic schools in the U.S. as a front for their recruitment and training activities.

I'm *shocked*. Thanks to Nicholas for sending this link:

The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.
A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.
The neighbors interviewed, who asked not to be identified, said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.
"We see children Â– small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous." ...
Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.
Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."
The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc....
Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.
The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.
Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.
According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.

And for more, check out The Politics of CP's extensive coverage here.

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1 "Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train" Duh.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 17, 2006 04:54 PM (0yYS2)

2 Time to convict and send these would be terrorist supporters to prison for life

Posted by: sandpiper at February 18, 2006 09:34 AM (162Hn)

3 life sentences are too merciful for them, time to convict and sentence them to DEATH! Once they have appealed and it is upheald, the death penalty should be carried out within 2 weeks.

Posted by: Andre at February 18, 2006 10:08 AM (bQ3vG)

4 No, it's time to kick in the doors, toss in a few molotov cocktails, and kill everyone who runs out.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 18, 2006 02:25 PM (0yYS2)

5 I have lived in these mountains for years and this is a false report. I have visited the campus and it is open to anyone that wants to visit.Across from the campus is another camping ground for challenged people. The truth needs to be told and someone should stop these false statements.

Posted by: TSgt.USAF at February 18, 2006 07:05 PM (/CoEY)

6 B'SD This is nothing less than an Al Queda training camp in Upstate New York that must be shut down. This group are primarily Black Moslem followers of Farqua whose former 'weapons instructor" was named Hampton El and was convicted with other followers of Sheik Rahman of trying to blow up various Jews, other innocent Americans as well as Lincoln Tunnel.Recently one of the top Islamic Nazi types from this outfit pled guilty for a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, named Sayef. Now, JDO (Jewish Defense Organization) has a campaign to demand the weak fearful government types lock up and shut down this Bin Laden training center in Deposit New York. These Jew-Hating Israel-Hating America-Hating professional liars learned quite well the old "street hustle" lie to the man routine when back in Brooklyn they were dealing dope, and hustling. They took that "skill" with them, about how to lie to authorities, neighbors, when the members of this outfit were low life "professinal' drug dealers, and a host of other criminal activities. They were recruited into this Islamic Nazi terror cult right out of Brooklyn up to the Al Queda camp. Now they may have changed their clothes style as part of the evolution from plain criminal to Islamic terrorist, but that inborn nature to try and lie and deny openly almost like a "street survival skill" is second nature to these psychotic Bin Laden worshipping degenerates. People that live near these 9-11 cheering Al Queda Brigade in Hancock must do 2 things to shut this Al Queda West camp down permanently. One street protests right at the local elected officials offices. Mass phone in,petitions, to their elected reps to deamnd evcition for the Bin Laden Brigade. Two all locals who understand the clear danger these psychotics represent must get legal guns, of the most effective caliber, and form a local emergency response team. You can't rely on the airhead police chief of Detail NY as he praised them on tv. Is he on the take from them ? THIS POLICE CHIEF OF DETAIL MUST BE FIRED!

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February 16, 2006

Defeating al Qaeda Online

Al Qaeda and the global salafist jihad network can be beaten, but not through traditional military force. The terrorists can only be beaten when we take away their major tool for recruitment and training--the internet. more...

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ACLU Vs ACLU: Press Release Urges Presumption of Guilt

From a February 15, 2006 American Civil Liberties Union press release [emphasis added]:

WASHINGTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union today urged the House Judiciary Committee to adopt several resolutions that would formally request any and all documents relating to the illegal National Security Agency domestic spying program authorized by President Bush.

Why is the ACLU trying to subvert the Constitution and centuries of American jurisprudence with a presumption of guilt, rather than innocence? Because this is the opening salvo in a bid to strip US counter-terrorism agencies of the power and ability to protect us. When you're busy betraying your country, betraying your own stated principles is a small sacrifice.

Stop the ACLU has the details of ACLU Policy #117, which calls for the emasculation of Federal counter-terror agencies.

The real reason that the ACLU is abandoning its principles in this fight is that they don't want their own conversations with terrorists and terrorist-sympathizers to be monitored. The ACLU's stated goal of protecting civil liberties would appear to be a cover, much like the bogus "peace" organizations during Vietnam and the Cold War, for activities that are clearly hostile to the best interests of the United States.

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.

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February 14, 2006

Another Sign of the Apocalypse

Sen. Charles Schumer opens mouth, voice of reason heard.

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Terror Trial Begins for U.S. Citizens in Lodi, FBI Investigating Newspaper Leak

The trial for two Lodi, California, men who have extensive ties to terror supporters in Pakistan begins today. The Sacramento Bee, which has been following the case closely, is now the target of a FBI investigation over information it published from a sealed federal indictment.

Two Muslim religious leaders who attended the same California mosque as Hamid & Umer Hayat have already been deported. The son, Hamid, is charged with giving material support to terrorists and three minor counts of lying to investigators. The father, Umar, is charged with two counts of lying to the FBI.

Don't let this relatively minor charges fool you. They told federal investigators that they had no ties to terrorism when in fact the younger of the two, Hamid Hayat, had attended terrorist training camps in Pakistan. All this after they had become naturalized U.S. citizens and were widely seen as pillars of the community.

I believe we have a name for citizens of our country who give material support to our enemies and swear to wage war against us: treason.

Incidentally, the Lodi Muslim community was outraged at the allegations that any one of them could possibly have ties to terrorists. Because, as we all know, to suggest that the percentage of terror supporters in the Muslim community is probably much higher than the number of terror supporters among the Mennonites is not allowed. Who represented this group of victims? The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the ACLU.

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1 Treason may as well be embezzlement, because no one is executed for it anymore. I guess it's more of a white-collar crime now.

Posted by: dave at February 14, 2006 03:59 PM (CcXvt)

2 Why has it taken so long to come to trial? It seems the War on Terror is a very low priority at DOJ. We were first aware of these guys 2 years ago. The son (who based on what I've seen the last two years is the real Americahater like another NoCal Fascist Muslim Johhny Walker) was almost allowed his freedom last year because of a DOJ screw up. With the giant increases in funding DOJ has had the last few years I would expect a much more agressive and competent attack on terorists.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 14, 2006 05:23 PM (lwdxR)

3 This trial should already be over. Another sign that The War on Terror is in reality a very low priority with the President and his close lieutenants. Or is Alberto just incompetent?

Posted by: Jo macDougal at February 14, 2006 05:34 PM (lwdxR)

4 Hey Jo/Rod why don't we just march them out back and shoot them as charged Stalin style? that way you wouldn't be inconvenienced by a long trial. One minute you guys are crowing about Judicial process re: Presidential wiretaps, now a Judicial process is taking too long (Wasn't that the Presidents defense to the wiretap and the left said too bad?) I bet it doesn't have anything to do with the defense and prosecution teams requesting sufficient time to prepare, evidence analysis and the like.

Posted by: dave at February 14, 2006 05:46 PM (CcXvt)

5 Actually guys, they were arrested in July, which puts us at 7 months since this whole thing got started. And the DOJ has been slow on this because, apparently, a lot of the evidence is/was classified. But yeah, it does look like they've been stalling. If you want a background, check this post - http://camafia.blogsome.com/2006/01/10/lodi-background/

Posted by: KG at February 14, 2006 08:03 PM (7SapW)

6 What in the world is happening to our country and our judicial system ? Soon we will receive more punishment for drunk driving than for being a terrorist! A slap on the hand for treason ??? GIVE ME A BREAK ! WAKE UP AMERICA !

Posted by: William A.R. at February 15, 2006 08:10 AM (v/qwq)

7 One of the things that has been holding it up is the defense attorneys blanket requests for discovery in attempts to get ancillary data regarding methods the FBI is using to recruit and pay informants. They'd really love to get their hands on the identities so they could send their love. The Bay Area Left is tracking this case and trying to portray it as a witch hunt involving kids who just want to shoot hoops.

Posted by: HV at February 15, 2006 09:31 PM (xydow)

8 Get real folks!! This "terrorism" trial is Lodi is a farce!! Those poor victims of the FBI aren't terrorists!! The FBI is having to make up stuff now to justify their huge budget and taxpayer rip-off. After all, they have to keep the blood-thirsty crowds, made up of people like you--appeased!! They are grasping at straws, trying to give you angry men your money's worth. Get a life!! Go to work!! Do something constructive with your lives!!

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Able Danger Hearings Begin

Vi is liveblogging the Able Danger hearings.

Weldon Press Conference on Able Danger.

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January 30, 2006

Cyber Attacks Against Danish Websites, Counterattacks Against Arab Sites

An interet war is brewing between a small minority of hackers who happen to be an even smaller subset of misunderstanders of Islam and Danish geeks. Viking Observer at AIR passes this translation on from the Danish media:

A large number of Danish papersÃ‚Â´ web versions have crashed. Suspicions immediately center on the hacker attacks being because of the Mohammed-drawings in Jyllands-Posten. ..
All the web media hit are hosted on the same servers at the internet company Metropol Online, owned by Berlingske (Danish publishing house). ..
Among the media hit is the homepage of Jyllands-Postens, www.jp.dk, which creates suspicions, that hackers are trying to hit the paper as part of the row over the papersÃ‚Â´ Mohammed-drawings.

And Danish geeks respond in kind to the cyberterrorism coming from the Muslim world. Again, from Viking Observer:

A Danish chain-mail that is circulating by email urges people to take part in a web-based attack on arab media. This happens in reaction to the hacker-attack on Danish papersÃ‚Â´ websites over the weekend....
he email starts out with the headline "Denmark under attack by moslem hackers" and contains an attached program, that starts a so-called denial-of-service attack on five arab media, among them Al-Jazeera, Arab News og Gulf News.
In the letter the recipient is urged to let the program run on his computer to bombard the arab media with data and thus block their homepages.

Wait. They're attacking al Jazeera? Good on you. As I've argued countless times in the past, al Jazeera is part of the enemy propaganda machine and is therefore a legitimate target in the war-on-terror. It is high time the Western world employed these cyberterrorists to our own advantage. The model of the privateer comes to mind.

And for a great non-dhimmi Danish blogger, visit Enough!

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1 Death To women's Rights. Death To women's Freedoms. Death To women's Liberties. Destroy feminism. Marry your daughters off at menarchy. Rape your wives. Death To women's Rights. Question: why do the europeans worship women? Are they faggots?

Posted by: m at January 30, 2006 01:49 PM (MXWyj)

2 I wonder what M is getting the little woman for Valentines Day.

Posted by: Brad at January 30, 2006 02:05 PM (3OPZt)

3 Roofies?

Posted by: Brad at January 30, 2006 02:06 PM (3OPZt)

4 m has a woman? I think he more likely has a goat.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 30, 2006 02:11 PM (rUyw4)

5 M has been banned.

Posted by: Rusty at January 30, 2006 02:12 PM (JQjhA)

6 Oooooookaaaaay then. I'm not sure what point M was trying to make, but I am sure he completely missed.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 30, 2006 02:12 PM (0yYS2)

7 M who?

Posted by: Oyster at January 30, 2006 02:32 PM (5pqct)

8 I'm sure it made complete sense to m - which is a scary thought in itself.

Posted by: hondo at January 30, 2006 02:37 PM (3aakz)

9 He sounded like a British 'father's rights' advocate, as odd as that may sound.

Posted by: Rusty at January 30, 2006 02:49 PM (JQjhA)

10 Hey, M. Mohammad is the false prophet and Allah is his Beast. See you in hell.

Posted by: MandM at January 30, 2006 03:11 PM (/lpvu)

11 this is a really outrageous act on the danish behalf; it is a lame excuse to protect the freedom of expression by insulting the thoughts and beliefs of others. This will testify to the Danish inability to grasp the importance of being responsible to the so-called freedom ; becaues a vital part of freedom is realising one's own boundries.

Posted by: rajeh al-rajeh at January 30, 2006 04:23 PM (v811s)

12 Ha Ha Ha - you have a rather odd definition of freedom - speech, expression etc. But your presence in the West far from your islamic utopias essentially betrays your ideals and exposes you as a fraud.

Posted by: hondo at January 30, 2006 05:12 PM (3aakz)

13 "becaues a vital part of freedom is realising one's own boundries." Yep - now you just need to realize YOUR boundries. "by insulting the thoughts and beliefs of others." Typical. It's all about you and your religion, isn't it?

Posted by: Supernaut at January 30, 2006 06:07 PM (P/mhs)

14 There is a town in central Java, called Kudus. Back in 15th century, it was still a Hindu majority. Then came a muslim wali name Sunan Kudus, who establish a school and preach about Islam to the town inhabitant. Gradually the number of muslim increase. One interesting thing was, in order to respect the Hindu beliefs, Sunan Kudus prohibited his disciples and followers from eating cow meat. Even though there is nothing in Islam that prohibit so. Up until today 600 years later, with Kudus as a muslim-majority town, many of the people still restraint from eating cow. Another story, there is a church called Gereja Jawi Wetan (East Java Church). Since its establishment in 19th century, it has prohibited its congregation from eating pork, to respect their muslim neighbour. What do you think ?

Posted by: jarot at January 30, 2006 07:14 PM (6Xjty)

15 jarot, I think that people who come to Europe should respect the traditions of Europe, just like Sunan Kudas respected the tradition of the Hindus and Gereja Jawi Wetan respected the tradition of the Muslims.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 30, 2006 07:26 PM (rUyw4)

16 jarot I think your full of bull - nice parable though for a sermon.

Posted by: hondo at January 30, 2006 07:30 PM (3aakz)

17 You mean someone is spreading some .exe or script among Danes and asking them to use it to attack Al Jazeera, et al??? Maybe this script is actually a nasty virus created by the Islamo-Fascist Cyber-Terrorists and it is gonna do something mailicious to the poor Danes who thought they were attacking someone else??? You don't know what kind of twisted minds they have in the Middle East.... P.S. If the Islamists want THEIR religion respected by others, they should respect OTHER religions, as well. Instead, they destroy other houses of worship (e.g. Jewish Temple Mount in Jeruslem, Hindu Temple at Ayodyah, and more with Christian churches and Buddhist temples....). As it is, the rest of the world has tolerated Islamic intolerance for so long that the Arabs/Muslims get upset when their own intolerance is not tolerated.... The M.E. is a very strange place...

Posted by: Jake at January 30, 2006 10:59 PM (M4Fn3)

18 jesusland joe, i think to respect someone's faith or values can be done be it in Europe or anywhere. when i spoke to my Dutch guest, I can talk openly and addressing him with his name directly without worry of offending him. i accept the openness as part of the values hold by my Dutch guest. in the other hand I won't use the same openness to my fellow countrymen, because many of them will find it offesinve. another case, asking "where are you going", or "where have you been" to a complete stranger are considered to be a part of polite conversation by my fellow countrymen. while the same questions to my Dutch guess, get a reply "that's none of your business".

Posted by: jarot at January 31, 2006 07:55 AM (tN4d5)

19 It is coordinated dos attacks and dos tools that are affecting the Danish sites. More information can be found here regarding the boycott and the cyber attacks: http://www.wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=527904#post527904

Posted by: Casey at February 01, 2006 12:10 PM (c0QDg)

20 The Danish cartoons are nasty and repulsive. Muslims are right to condemn them and boycott filthy Danish products.

Posted by: Aamir Ali at February 01, 2006 01:20 PM (tKxm6)

21 Strange that we don't see bands of marauding buddhists threatening to kill anyone who eats meat ?? Or bands of guerilla pig farmers parachuting into Syria forcing the faithful to eat pork ?!

Posted by: cartoon lover at February 03, 2006 10:07 AM (VrREW)

22 Where was all the protests when the crazy muslims were blowing up all the staues of budda ?

Posted by: TJ at February 03, 2006 03:55 PM (9Uqlj)

23 Feck them rag wearing fagots, I say its all a load of tosh, don't believe any of that shite. fredom to garfield, Fcuk the prophet Mohammed with some pork sausages.

Posted by: Fcuk Mohammed at February 04, 2006 06:50 PM (7vXIb)

24 My best friend said I had to visit your site. She was right,thanks!

Posted by: Lora at February 04, 2006 11:30 PM (+uNoj)

25 These cartoons have raised, according to me, the question of the freedom of speech's boundaries. Are we stepping on other's freedom by publishing these cartoons? (and don't tell me it's just a cartoon, critics may have more impact than acts) Example: If you share a flat with a jewish friend for instance and you hang posters in your room of Hitler or Mussolini(cuz your a fan, it's your right to be fan of whoever you want). There's no law or legal act that prohibits you from having these posters in your room because it's the freedom of thoughts and beliefs. But you will not gain the sympathy and the friendship of your flat mate obviously. Therefore, if we want to live together in peace with our muslim neighbors, we have to be careful not to offense them. Of course, in a hypothetic utopia of freedom of speech these cartoons should be allowed. But learning to live together is more than just saying "i can say whatever i want cuz it's freedom of speech", it's also to be careful to what you say and what we do according to OTHER'S beliefs and thoughts. I would prefer the phrase "HOW TO LIVE TOGETHER" rather than "FREEDOM OF SPEECH". "Freedom of speech", as much as "democracy", have been overused by media and have been uprooted from their social-economical-historical initial context, to end up as an political oriented instrument.

Posted by: Khaled at February 10, 2006 08:03 AM (6ygiN)

26 Why don't people start waking up to the real world instead of believing in instituions some created over 1500 years ago. Religion in any form was in those times a system of law which worked well when there was no form of organised policing, as time went on eventually religion become nothing more than a reason to go to war and break those very rules that they were created to police. People who still believe in religion, the after life etc should face up to the truth, they are believing in no more than a story, and as everyone knows stories change with time until they fade away completely. The various religious texts have all been manipulated with time to suit those in power at the time. During the times that they were written very few could even read or write therefore relying on the preaching and word's of others, they may as well be hear-say rather than evidence of actual history. On a side note- If the goal as preached by many of the religious fanatics is for a united Muslim nation, Palestine nation, or any other such claim why are all these groups still in fighting amongst them selves. If you cant even unify as groups do you really think you can unify the world all under one religion. At least the west doesnt preach happiness, freedom and love all for changing faith, the west has already experienced the difficulties of unification and has still never managed to get it right. Along the way one critical lesson has been learnt that violence, war and terrorism will not acheive anything even if you declare it in a holy way as was done with the Crusades and now with Jihad.

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January 29, 2006

So Peaceful And Tolerant

[note to Islamotards, this was originally posted at Vince Aut Morire, if you want to issue a fatwa, it goes to ME, not Rusty. Well, okay, you can fatwa Rusty too, but I call shotgun.]

All it takes are rumors of Koran flushing and silly little cartoons to send the muslim "street" into a frothing rage.

"You can't do that, you'll make a billion people mad!" the useful idiots throw at us.

How about making 2 billion people mad? (story link)

Five coordinated car bombings targeted the Vatican mission and at least two churches in Baghdad and two churches in the northern city of Kirkuk within about 20 minutes.

In response to this latest atrocity commited by the cowards of Islam upon my faith, I am going to post the entire string of Mohammed cartoons that were published in Denmark underneath the fold. more...

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1 In support of the Danish cartoonists I drew my own Muhammad cartoons: Soft Muhammad, the Mo-Man as a full-lipped nancy boy without a serious beard; and Hellfire Muhammad. I encourage other bloggers to draw pictures in the spirit of the Danish newspaper cartoons. If 12 pissed off so many Islamists, what will they think of a internet filled with them?

Posted by: Thomas the Wraith at January 29, 2006 06:55 PM (zTWhc)

2 I wanted to post the second one from the top on my blog. I wrote the Danish paper asking their permission but no reply. I'm wondering if I'll be in breach of copyright?

Posted by: jonny at January 29, 2006 07:15 PM (nytWC)

3 Judas priest, these ninnyhammers are ready to start 'splodin' over some cartoons? What would they do if some "artist" were to display, oh...I don't know...say a crescent and star in a jar of piss, or made a "portrait" of Mohammed (may fleas infest his anus) out of elephant shit? Must be why "artists" prefer to mock the Christian religion.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at January 29, 2006 08:02 PM (RHG+K)

4 I like the cartoon where Mohammed's head is a bomb. Just seems to fit, I guess.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 29, 2006 08:17 PM (rUyw4)

5 Dear writer and drawer its ok and great that you have democracy and freedom in your countries but this effect on us "the Christians in Arab countries "especially in Iraq that in one day 6 churches were attacked and who knows whatÂ’s coming?!! bcause they think that all the west is Christians so the can attack any christian any where!!! "Christian from Iraq"

Posted by: memo-Iraq at January 30, 2006 02:43 AM (vopx5)

6 Amateurs. If you Google for fatwa images you may be amused by one in the first page of results. Ditto if you search for images of our pal Hamza. Links to actual images. You can do the image Googling yourself.

Posted by: Aaron's cc: at January 30, 2006 04:46 AM (ov6Vw)

7 Who among us would not support the Cartoon War?

Posted by: Dale at January 30, 2006 05:22 AM (6qCfg)

8 The intelligent way to respond to the supposedly offensive cartoons would be to show the world proof of Mohammed's compassion, caring, love of bunnies, baking of cookies, love of interior design, care of the environment, etc. But I guess that would be a tad difficult given what's written in their religious books, soooooooooo that just leaves throwing tantrums in the street like a bunch of four year olds while screaming "Those bad people said mean ol' things about us!" As an Anglican, I don't feel the need to b*tch and moan every time someone says something bad about Henry VIII, because, well, you can't really say anything good about Henry VIII.

Posted by: Graeme at January 30, 2006 06:25 AM (VOCa6)

9 Petition agains freedom of speach: http://new.petitiononline.com/Eagle999/petition.html Every good muslim should sign it!

Posted by: Skla at January 30, 2006 06:51 AM (hWJvj)

10 We should all support these cartoonists purely for the basic right of free speech

Posted by: mel at January 30, 2006 07:00 AM (RhkAB)

11 such cartoons will help the muslims to unite all over the world, thanks for such great job, where the leaders of muslims have failed, you guys,bush and his team are doing wonderful job too, we appreciate this great work by all of you guys, then the force of the muslim empire will be felt all over the world

Posted by: available2go@yahoo.com at January 30, 2006 07:45 AM (4cHwP)

12 Yes, available, we know, that's why you must be stopped, because you and your monkeys want to return the World to the Dark Ages where savages reign supreme. You wish for a primitive time where slavery, murder, rape, and every form of savagery is sanctioned for Muslims, just as long as it is done in the name of your pedophile prophet. Well, count me out of your plans, bud, and know that I am well prepared for you.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 30, 2006 08:54 AM (rUyw4)

13 Available2go? Well then, go! Idiot. I swear, it kills me that mental hospitals let the patiets just wander around getting onto their computers and flinging virtual feces.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 30, 2006 09:06 AM (0yYS2)

14 lol, nice one Dale.

Posted by: Venom at January 30, 2006 09:21 AM (dbxVM)

15 Death To women's Rights. Death To women's Freedoms. Death To women's Liberties. Destroy feminism.

Posted by: m at January 30, 2006 10:41 AM (MXWyj)

16 I know that you want a tangible thing. Since Muslim has showed very good sign to defend their prophet Mohammed, Allah has promised such believers to support and defend them as you will see yourself. Then you will realize God might. Stay toned and watch the news.

Posted by: Abdullh at January 30, 2006 10:50 AM (Ypfe+)

17 Just like Allah protected his supporters in Aceh in Indonesia from a tsunami, and his supporters in Pakistan from an earthquake.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 30, 2006 10:56 AM (rUyw4)

18 Yeah we'll hold our breath Abdullah. Sure thing.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 30, 2006 11:20 AM (0yYS2)

19 Gee whiz, kids. It'd be a REAL SHAME if the Mosque of the Holy Prophet in Mecca had an accident, huh?

Posted by: mojo at January 30, 2006 01:19 PM (U9foz)

20 To Jesuland Joe: If Allah protects every Muslim in this world, then every person in the world will become a Muslim. Allah wants to test the people who will believe in him as the only creator without seeing him as mentioned in Torah, Bible and Koran. In addition, the Muslim will not be a Muslim until he believes in Torah, Bible and all profits without distinguishing between them including Jesus and Moses.

Posted by: Abdullh at January 30, 2006 01:33 PM (C43Yy)

21 Abdullah, are you trying to be a Sufi or something?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 30, 2006 02:19 PM (0yYS2)

22 Uh....Abjullah, that is wrong on so many levels that I really don't know how to respond. And here I was thinking that it was Allah's will for everyone to become Muslim, but not in a non-violent way, I suppose from your answer, so kill them, beat them, rape them into submission. Allah is a great god.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 30, 2006 02:20 PM (rUyw4)

23 jesusland and improbulus, are you two still up to your racist antics? Last time we exchanged comments on jawa, improbulus was reduced to a sorry state whereby he had nothing but venom to spew, the very thing we find militants doing in the face of the (very sorry) decision made by the press across Europe. And jesusland, I had hoped that I was able to illustrate the misconceptions you have about Islam. On the subject of cartoons, it appears there's nothing but a caricature of intelligence to be found on this blog. What's so wrong with being offended at cartoons drawn when we don't wish that they be drawn? What's the crime there? You may ask, what's the crime in drawing the cartoon. None, I suppose, according to the legal rule of the offending countries, but it is an obvious display of a complete disregard of the wishes of a very large portion of the world. That lack of respect for our wishes, the blatant disregard speaks volumes. If you cannot show respect for those that Muslims revere, then you haven't begun to understand why there is such an uproar across the Muslim world about these cartoons. I don't condone violence over blasphemy -- in fact, the Quran tells Muslims to leave the area where people are found blaspheming and return when the conversation changes to a different topic. It's obvious that the raging militants and those committed to violence are going to go about doing their own thing. Shame on them. But shame on all you for not respecting the wishes of another group of people. You don't have to agree with us, and understanding may come with time, but we don't think it's too much for you to respect our wishes regardless.

Posted by: Sohail Mirza at February 01, 2006 05:00 PM (SHPL6)

24 I am an avid supporter of free speech. However, anyone can express an opinion, the real question should be how informed is that opinion or expression. There is a point where the speech produced has no constructive value to our society and is nothing but mere baseless and crass vitriol that doesn't befit as advanced a civilization as the West. Many Western countries draw a limit on the freedom of speech when it comes to the identity of child rape victim, slander and libel. Another main exception that some countries have adopted is hate speech. Hate speech is speech which condemns or dehumanizes the individual or group; or expresses anger, hatred, violence or contempt toward them. Depicting the Muslim's prophet as a terrorist, with absolutely no corroborating or intellectual support or discourse, is hate speech. I do not believe Christianity teaches us to dehumanize nor express hatred, anger, violence, or contempt against an individual or group. Such behaviour fails to show even the slightest modicum of decorum and civil behaviour. Jesus would be ashamed.

Posted by: Dissonance at February 01, 2006 05:47 PM (/MxB3)

25 You are punch of hookers' and homosexuals that went out of control . You lost any sense of direction except one single direction is the Satan's direction. So good luck and enjoy each other in hell. And send us your pathetic drawings from there.

Posted by: ara at February 01, 2006 08:02 PM (b/3we)

26 show respect our believes!!!

Posted by: muslims at February 02, 2006 04:15 AM (PrVhR)

27 You know, I've never replied to posts on any site but I've reached my limit. I'm sick and tired of you Camel-Jockies spreading out all over the world, living of our tax dollars and spewing of the mouth about how bad the "West" is. If you don't like it here in the west, GO HOME. Live in a sand castle and spend your life praying to a pedophile. Stop taking my tax dollars and sending them home to your sand box. If it were not for the "West" you'd still be roaming the desert and fighting with the camels for something to eat. I have some advise though first. Anymore attacks in our countries will be met in kind, maybe we'll start cutting the throats of some Imams here in the west, Eye for an Eye type of thing. Enough is enough, if you don't like it, get on your carpet and fly home.

Posted by: topper at February 02, 2006 09:57 AM (9j4FO)

28 Fuck all you guys. Fuck prphets, fuck the brain washed christians and muslims. fuck you all. Are the Christians saying that mohamed is a phaedophile....and the muslimes are supposed to throw shit at jesus? well you know what? jesus is a piece of shit created by some dumb fucks. He is nothing but an ordinary fag. Jesus was fucked in the ass by women with dildos and crucified.....fuck jesus....fuck mohamed......fuck all religious extremist...i don't mind the cartoonsd at all. i just sympathise with who ever drew this knowing that it would be a huge insult. this is deliberate. fuck americans too... fuck all of you dumb fucks.....christians and muslims. fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you and fuck jesusland joa. keep your faith to yourself. keeo your shit to yourself. stupid son of a bitch....you know what, a miracle happened recently.....blood was pouring out of virgin mary's eyes......now she has started bleeding out of her ass... hehe...... jesus my ass

Posted by: Anjuna at February 02, 2006 11:14 AM (C9S0h)

29 to topper: Ha Ha Ha, You poor thing, you still live in the camel, desert , and carpet era. Don't you read news papers or hear the news? Haven't you heard about invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and before them Palestine with your dirty army? Haven't you heard about stealing our land, our petrol (oil), our natural treasures, our museums, and many more... But the good news is we give your so called men in uniform good lessons as we speak, Don't you know that your so called army are wearing pampers before walking in Iraqi streets, they are so frightened to the limit that they wet themselves. In Afghanistan they can't dare to travel from one place into the other. Just watch more TV news to see your army arriving back home in Coffins. Or you only watch big brother, and after nine rude programs? who come to who, you better read more you tax payer thing?, wake up!!!

Posted by: mona at February 02, 2006 02:47 PM (x35f/)

30 Prophet was a rapist, killer and an illiterate. His manual is the Koral which calls for killing of all non muslims and take over the world for Islam. So Islam is a danger to the world. The only thing the dull muslims are capable of is human production by having more wives and using bombs and suicide bombers to kill others.

Posted by: APJ ABDUL KALAM at February 03, 2006 11:54 AM (m+tQd)

31 Muslims you are idiots.....if your one of the few that aren't....it is time to tell your fellows to get with it...they are making themselves look just as we all know they are......complete freaks!

Posted by: Muslimsareidiots at February 03, 2006 03:28 PM (Ffvoi)

32 America America America ....God Bless You..... Destroy the Native American people, STEAL all their land and place them in reservation, drop the A bomb and kill half a million (and then dare to tell other soverign countries that they cannot have nukes), hate the black man and keep them below the poverty lines as you could clearly see after Katrina, have a jackass for a president who can't even speak properly, have every other priest be accused of molestation.......what a great country!!!!!!!!!!!!!Continue fueling the hate that everyone in the world now has for you. Is there any nation that does not hate Americans now....All of Europe, Asia, Africa and South America......Create more and more hatred. Keep doing it.......the outcome would only be more violence. But maybe that's what you want....Big money in War....Look at Iraq....somebody pockets got fat and it isn't the Iraqi people. Defenders of the world only if it suites you. Why didn't you save the million people in Africa that were killed due to ethnic cleansing....oh...i forgot there is no oil there. Africans in the US you will always be a second class citizen. You may not be sitting at the back of the bus but count how many of you are CEO's of top corps or how many of you are in the Country Club.....you are living a lie. They have put you in a reservation called the Projects....open your mind......

Posted by: jordan at February 03, 2006 05:47 PM (kP0nW)

33 It doesn't seem that muslims really understand the concept of free speech in free countries. We don't follow their silly rules of censorship. We have been fighting for that right of expression for centuries, and continue to fight for it every day. It is a core democratic value. The muslim rule of not being able to depict the prophet or allah DOES NOT APPLY TO ME. But to be honest Nor does the jewish one saying that I can't work on whatever day is special to them (or i shall be stoned). Or the christian one saying I can't take the lords' name in vain (or whatever useless ancient rules you can come up with from any "bible"). They're all bullshit, and anyone with an atom of intelligence can see they're psychological tools of coercion, not true words of a god. When you try to show me a book (torah,bible,koran) and say that it's the word of god, it's YOUR idea and interpretation of god, NOT FUCKING MINE. And I will never believe your garbage no matter what forms or names or stories you change. Or how many other people believe it too. Apollo drags the sun across the sky in a chariot, a whole lotta people used to believe. And if humanity lasts another thousand years (religion and nukes? I doubt it), they will look at us like we look at the apollo worshippers - like small minded sheep willing to follow anyone with a promise of virgins and gobs of gold and candy and everlasting orgasmic perfectness. Like you're all LOBBYISTS of GOD. If I have to live with you religious fundamentalists and hear your propoganda over and over because you can't stand it that I don't buy your lies, then you should have to live with a few provocative cartoons and learn a little something about free speech and lighten the fuck up.

Posted by: noreligion at February 03, 2006 08:06 PM (6KkLz)

34 FUCK YOU ALL MOTHERFUCKING REPUBLICANS

Posted by: the dude who fucked your sister at February 03, 2006 08:10 PM (ikYsl)

35 Can someone tell me if anyone here in america has republished these cartoons, as far as papers and tv? Aren't we the fucking leaders of free speech? Or is this an attempt to not further inflame the violent idiots? Like they could hate us more. I guess blogs and the internet really are the only hope for free speech in this country anymore.

Posted by: noreligion at February 03, 2006 08:29 PM (6KkLz)

36 how ignorant and racist are you? you claim to be civilised when u are creating hate! I guess you have so much hate in ur heart, do something about it and seek the truth, like the 9/11 infligh which opened my eyes. prophet Muhammad (pbuh)is never shown in pictures because it interferes with his spirituality, how can you draw a person when you don't know how they look like? even muslims don't depict jesus christ (pbuh)..... what a shame, if only you knew the true prophet Muhammad (pbuh) he never took revenge on people that were even intending on killing him! This is not about freedom of speech its about making islam secular, what a shame even some christain churches are being forced to become secular and have gay marriges! Anyone in the world can have freedom of speech, the cartoons are not freedom of speech they are ridicule, provocative, untrue, humiliating, interfering with his message. I will boycott all denmark products and other countries that decide to follow, even my own country!!! When i read some of these posted comments i can see that most of you are uneducated, or cant even think for yourselves......yes I am a muslim and yes I have freedom of speech and freedom of everything, I am not oppressed just incase some of you are assuming that!

Posted by: joanne Ali Fredrik at February 04, 2006 06:17 AM (+XbaD)

37 Denmark is primarily a Christian country. The Mualims who live there are immigrants. I have no problem with immigrants until they start telling people what they can and cant do. A Christian country has no obligation to stop its press from printing images which others may find offensive. I can see why the images are offensives to Muslims. However, just because something is offensive does not mean the public should be sheltered from it. The images of Muslims across the world, burning flags, standing out side EU offices with guns and generally being violent simply confirm my suspicions that Muslims are still stuck several thousand years in the past. Feel free to denounce the West as enemies of Muslims, your idiotic childish behaviour will sooner or later make the West hate you.

Posted by: Allah my Arse at February 04, 2006 01:15 PM (djvcY)

38 I don't see what all the fuss is about.... by making such a fuss you inspire other to take it a step further. Check out this dutch competition link, purpose is to post pictures featuring prophets as a mean for commercial benefits.

http://retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C (click this at your own risk)

Posted by: Neo at February 05, 2006 07:27 AM (fjhgW)

39 You all are motherfuckers......couse only motherfuckers fuck their mothers....sons ova bitches.... jesus the christ

Posted by: Jesus at February 05, 2006 08:56 AM (3Fg1D)

40 Do you know that the Christians are wining the hatred of the Muslims with these stupid and provoketing cartoons.I condemn the cartoonists and all these newspapers.

Posted by: Melih at February 05, 2006 09:19 AM (wrcyl)

41 Perhaps its just me....but..If these cartoons haven't been published in Muslim countries....how come millions of uslims in those countries are 'enraged' over the content of the cartoons and calling for the heads of 'none believers'and burning down embassies because of some images they haven't actually seen for themselves. The way I see it is... If my local reverend told me there had been a cartoon showing Jesus in a comprimising position with a goat and encouraged me to take to the streets you better believe I would want to check the facts and see the cartoon first..!! If Muslims can't look at images of Mohammed may i suggest that none of these protesters have seen and therefore are unable unable to draw their own conclusions about these pictures (if they have looked then they have been a bit naughty).... it does strike me as rather strange that you can get so upset and hurt over something you know nothing about and blindly trust and follow opinions and behaviour of others... If I draw some images of what I think Mohammed looks like and show him holding a plackard which says 'Behead all non-believers'would I get into trouble and have a fatwa set against me for drawing an image...?? An idea... To ensure no one is ever offended again by a cartoon, perhaps the world should consider setting up a 'clearing house' system for all cartoons/pictures. These would all be examined by censors of all creeds and religions..-if any of the censors state they are offended by any submitted item that item shouldn't be published. Somehow, I feel that this idea would put an end to all cartoons because someone, somewhere will play the 'I am offended' card.. In time we could expand this idea to cover all written articles, photos, film...the list is endless. Oh, doesn't that sound rather like a state where religous law is the only law and to have an alternative viewpoint is forbidden. Sometimes, whatever you do or say will 'offend' someone.. Oh, and if so many Muslims dislike the 'decadent west'so much, pleae, don't put yourself out for our sakes, don't come here on holiday, don't buy our products,...you know the sort of thing, motor vehicles, any pharmacutical products, electrical items, after all, you have thriving industries in all areas of commerce. Remember to boycott Danish bacon while you are at it..

Posted by: John at February 05, 2006 02:20 PM (I313z)

42 Fuck Yourself

Posted by: Turkey at February 05, 2006 02:47 PM (z0UG4)

43 Muslims in West must go back to own countries. Now. No Muslim must be allowed in the West. You hate the West, you must leave. Or we will not be responsible for your fate, which is looking very serious. Take this as warning, look what happened to you in Malta.

Posted by: Crusader knight of Malta at February 05, 2006 02:59 PM (rUyw4)

44 We didnt your regilion's prophet. Coz u make fun with self prophet Hz.Muhammed ... i said only one "DENMARK NOW DAMNED COUNTRY !!" fuck you DENMARK !!!....

Posted by: Gharipc at February 05, 2006 03:00 PM (Q1Biq)

45 I think you all are useless persons and I never go down your standing.Allah(c.c.) in my hearts Allah(c.c.)in our hearts.We(mÃƒÂ¼slims) respect your belief during history

Posted by: Allah in my hearts(AkA) at February 05, 2006 03:08 PM (yXUIe)

46 sonofabitches put away this cartoons

Posted by: ajsdjsda at February 05, 2006 03:52 PM (v2Phl)

47 siz şerefsizden başkası değilsiniz

Posted by: sizisiken at February 05, 2006 04:27 PM (rbp6C)

48 it is a shame on you......

Posted by: Erik at February 06, 2006 02:53 AM (M/0xN)

49 You religious people are messed up how is it that in this day people can still be brainwashed by what some random person wrote about a couple thousand years ago and lead their life around it, have wars about it seriously have you no mind of your own do you not have your own moral beliefs and your own say or do you need to check your bible and koran on wot to say. its just a fucking cartoon people are offended about religion all the time look at the priests all of them are now considered phedophiles. you need thicker skin and just cause you believe whatever doesnt mean the rest of us fucking should

Posted by: fucking relax at February 06, 2006 03:07 AM (1NtUO)

50 vous n'arivez jamais ÃƒÂ toucher notre islam et notre foi ÃƒÂ mohamed et dieu vous etes des imbissiles des salops des terro ristes.

Posted by: stÃ©phane at February 06, 2006 06:49 AM (AugPz)

51 ya seve seve ya sike sike karikatÃƒÂ¼rler geldiği yere (ıts either you all or our )

Posted by: AkA at February 07, 2006 07:03 AM (YAHJb)

52 ya seve seve ya sike sike karikatÃƒÂ¼rler geldiği yere (ıts either you all or our )

Posted by: muslims at February 07, 2006 07:04 AM (YAHJb)

53 you all are'll burn in hell with devil and appeal to Allah(c.c.) but Muslims will to be in Paradise with Muhammed(S.A.S)

Posted by: AkA mÃ¼slims at February 07, 2006 08:47 AM (hmT9V)

54 The post is to respond to Sohail Mirza(5 Feb) If the Muslim population is so offended by cartoons--We(the rest of the world) are supposed to be sensitive to that? Give me a break! Why is it okay to make fun of every other religion as they have done because all do not believe in Allah? Have we burned down embassies and strapped bombs to ourselves and gone into your religious sanctuaries and blown people up? Uh, let's see...no. The bottom line is that this is not a religion, this is a violent cult. If you consider yourself open-minded, go read "Under the Banner of Heaven" to learn about religions of violence. Maybe it will make sense that terrorizing and killing innocent people to get them to think like you is not the way to get things done.

Posted by: Lit'l one at February 07, 2006 11:33 AM (GBGnu)

55 Having read Mohammed,Believe it or Else! and seen some of the jokes,(Shake More Ham Head, etc) the Danish cartoons are mild. Are there any Islamic attack cartoons?

Posted by: Fr. David at February 07, 2006 09:28 PM (YKu7i)

56 all muslims hate denmark!! we never buy your products.God will punish you!!

Posted by: denmarkfucker at February 08, 2006 07:20 AM (ITAgK)

57 You have no right to publish and attack to muslims beliefs and religion, it is not a subject to be flexible about. You are not in the right way, anybody can not make any comment on any subject if they have no idea about it. You dont know the KORAN or Muslims... We are shaming on you and damn your people who think on this way... !!!! God will punish you... Go out from your home and look around yourself, the world is not turning around you...

Posted by: Turhan at February 08, 2006 10:39 AM (zj8Dk)

58 Hi all, all of this racism must stop... Day by day everyone in the world is becoming enemy of the other one... I dont want any religion wars, we aren't living in dark ages, no more jihads or crusaders... If you want Muslims be calmed down, please show a little respect... Of course there is some Muslim idiots, but there is also some idiot Christians... last word No Religion Wars Please... Don't Let Anyone To Kill the other for religion...

Posted by: Noone from nowhere at February 08, 2006 11:28 AM (E2+nj)

59 fuck the religion... it's just bullshit... aren't you tired from fighting? just like crusades. barbarian west for middle east and heretic muslims for west... it's really bullshit.

Posted by: agnosticfront at February 08, 2006 05:29 PM (VPiRp)

60 these caricatures are totally disrespect for muslims in the world. publisher of that cartoons are mother fucker

Posted by: arda at February 08, 2006 05:45 PM (fNfuI)

61 I liked the "out of virgins" cartoon. You could also add the phrase "we can only supply two hookers and a goat - we have plenty of those"

Posted by: freeman at February 09, 2006 02:29 PM (pUKbi)

62 Dissonance, We don't have to portray your prophet as a terrorist, your people do a good enough job all by yourselves when you murder innocent women and children in a pizza shop, with a drugged-up suicide bomber, in the name of Mohammed. We are not afraid of you....you want a global war, you will get one, and we will win, because we are free and you are not.

Posted by: freeman at February 09, 2006 02:50 PM (pUKbi)

63 I went to Iraq. What a fucked up place.Muslims should stay in thier shithole countrys. We should apply all the rules that muslims apply to christians in thier countrys to the muslims in ours. See how they like that. They can bomb and kill , well so can we

Posted by: Muslimkiller at February 09, 2006 05:49 PM (SDEEM)

64 SİZE BİZLER İNSANLIGI OGRETTIK DENSIZ TERBİYESIZLER

Posted by: UGUR TABU at February 09, 2006 06:06 PM (6G+sw)

65 I FUCK YOU ALLS I FUCK ALL FAMLY FUCKİNG hepinizin gtÃƒÂ¼ne koyyuım amına kodumun kaşarları saygı seviyenizin gtÃƒÂ¼e koyım szin yavşaklar ananaıza hadÃƒÂ§ektitiklem bu laflar sze amınızı gtÃƒÂ¼tÃƒÂ¼nÃƒÂ¼ bir ettimin kahpeleri

Posted by: muzo at February 10, 2006 09:26 AM (vT/xR)

66 yıoyuı

Posted by: gokhan at February 10, 2006 10:00 AM (O4CJ3)

67 gavatlar allah korkunuz yokmu sizin tabi sizde farkındasınız olayların bu olayların sonunda değil ama en sonunda islammiyet dÃƒÂ¼nyanın dini olacak bu vatikanın ve NSA arşivlerinde bile var am işiniz gelmiyorr ...allahınızdan bulun...

Posted by: merasti at February 10, 2006 01:26 PM (sayRF)

68 gavatlar allah korkunuz yokmu sizin tabi sizde farkındasınız olayların bu olayların sonunda değil ama en sonunda islammiyet dÃƒÂ¼nyanın dini olacak bu vatikanın ve NSA arşivlerinde bile var am işiniz gelmiyorr ...allahınızdan bulun...

Posted by: gemlikli at February 10, 2006 01:27 PM (sayRF)

69 Ass hole why don't you understand why ur boiling the issue it will way beyond your throats fucking europeans u won't be able to digest humilation u caused to muslims. Now you will see ur cartoons and will become the part of ur heritage so ur next generation can see how stupid there fore fathers were.

Posted by: Aziz at February 11, 2006 01:39 AM (R7uA+)

70 Allahınızdan bulun kÃƒÂ¼fÃƒÂ¼r ederdim ama sizin gibilere kÃƒÂ¼fÃƒÂ¼r etmek yetmez kurandaki fil suresini biliyorsanız danimarkalı karikatÃƒÂ¼rÃƒÂ¼sler ve onu destekleyen insanlar allah en bÃƒÂ¼yÃƒÂ¼k ve yukarda ya bu tarafta ya o tarafta bunların cezasını acı acı ve yanarak ÃƒÂ§ekeceksiniz Hz.Muhammed senden bu insanlar adına ÃƒÂ¶zÃƒÂ¼r diliyoruz la ilahe illallah la ilahe illallah

Posted by: halil at February 11, 2006 06:06 AM (o6FD5)

71 siz karikatÃƒÂ¼rsler cehennem de yanarken bizler yani mÃƒÂ¼slÃƒÂ¼manlar cennette temiz ruhlu insanların olduğu yerde allaha ibadet edip her istediğimizi elde edebilecez siz ise HRİSTİYANLAR Cehennemde ŞEYTANNNN TARAFINDAN YAKILIP PİRZOLA HALİNDE ŞEYTANIN MİDESİNE İNECEKSİNİZ MÃƒÂ¼slÃƒÂ¼manlar tekrarlayın allahÃƒÂ¼ekber,allahÃƒÂ¼ekber,allahÃƒÂ¼ekber,la ilahe illallah ,amin iyi gÃƒÂ¼nlere tÃƒÂ¼m mÃƒÂ¼slÃƒÂ¼man kardeşlerim

Posted by: halildenizsever at February 11, 2006 06:17 AM (o6FD5)

72 İşallah allah sizi şiş kebbap yapıp ÃƒÂ¼zerinize ketÃƒÂ§ap dÃƒÂ¶kerek şeytana verir pis danimarkalılar ben sizin bayrağınızı da yakarım.sizi dÃƒÂ¶ner ekmek diye yerimlan

Posted by: halildenizsever at February 11, 2006 07:16 AM (o6FD5)

73 OUTRAGED MUSLIMS! OH MY! We wake up to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed. No big deal........... Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights: Ã‚Â·Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage Ã‚Â·Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage. Ã‚Â·Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged. Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose. Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan. I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago. "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?" Indeed. Why not?

Posted by: denmarkfordanes at February 11, 2006 11:13 AM (8EMRj)

74 An answer to john; It's a dogma that muslims can't look at muhammed's pictures, we're not blindless people, of course we all saw the cartoons and I can not imagine why a person wants to joke on a population's religious thoughts and why a country supports such provocative things.Another important point is; we were not forbidden to see or make muhammed's pictures, it's only respect to him and to our religion , he's in our thougts and in our heart such as god, he isn't an ordinary thing to be idolized. May be christian's behaviour on jesus is different, they put his images, pictures and sculptures everywhere and pray directly to him, but we muslims pray only god and put no other mediatorbetween us and God .We'RE ONLY waiting for some respect to our religion, please read and learn more about our religion and decide then about muslims. I don't support wars or terorism but european countries know the sensitivity of muslims about their religion and they always follow a way to provocate them. I only wait for an excuse from Denmark people and Rasmussen 'cause this's not a freedom of speech or another thing that danish people made, this is only a disrespectfull behaivour, and shame on them. Muhammed was a very tolerant person and accept all christians, jewish people and their religions, and he didn't deserve such insultance. I don't support such protests like burning flags etc. these musn't destruct all muslims 'cause most of us don't support such protests, but we need an excuse!

Posted by: shame on you at February 11, 2006 03:42 PM (kU4GO)

75 To Shame on you, With all due respect, I think that you should check your facts. Point one, the Danish People (Denmark people as you write) do NOT owe ANYONE ANY excuse for ANYTHING!It was a Danish Newspaper, Jyllands Posten that published these totally ridiculous drawings that have caused so much anger. As far as I know they have apologised, likewise the Danish PM has also apologised. What more do you want? The Danish people including Danish Muslims have no responsibility for any of this. You ask others to respect your religion, perhaps you TRUE Muslims should do more to stop the fanatic extremist Muslims that commit terrorist acts and murders in the name of Islam. Then perhaps we others will try to understand and learn respect for your beliefs. At the same time you must control the Imams that spread such hatred and lies about Western Society. The Imam group from Denmark has deliberately twisted the facts and lied about the situation here in DK, they have shown pictures that have nothing to do with the truth. Shame on you a good alias, it fits with many of your kind!

Posted by: denmarkfordanes at February 11, 2006 04:48 PM (8EMRj)

76 we are looking to atack on washington usa are u ready for this and bush we are looking to ur wife

Posted by: alqaeda at February 12, 2006 03:25 AM (CNXwE)

77 ready usa now the times come to destroy u

Posted by: alqaeda at February 12, 2006 03:38 AM (Djyhx)

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Posted by: alqaeda at February 12, 2006 03:44 AM (Djyhx)

79 Wow I really regret not coming back to this post, because it really brought the rats out of the woodwork. I hope all the 'slamotards and their little liberal dhimmi bitches do start some shit soon so I can kill a bunch of them. Hey Sohail, is you mom still whoring for American soldiers in Baghdad?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 12, 2006 07:30 AM (0yYS2)

80 I was dissopinted by the cartoons insulting Muhammed. Nobody has a right to insult someone or somebody. It is very thought-provoking of being done by a civilized country. Yes, in the islamic world there is a terrosim but it doesn't depend on our religion and Hz Muhammed. If you read Hz Muhammed's life you can understand it very easily. He prayed for his Allah to forgive the person who broke his teeth. You cannot believe our religion as I don't believe your religion. But neither you nor I can insult them. If you attack the other religions you can only increase the terrosim and nobody can suit. I love Hz Muhammed, Hz İsa, Hz Musa, Hz SÃƒÂ¼leyman. All of them are our prophets.

Posted by: SÃ¼leyman at February 12, 2006 08:21 AM (ANTmh)

81 To those who are not Muslim - check out the Muslim commentators above and what they write. Any questions? Do you buy into their "Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion" or do you see that claim for the bullshit that it is? We're in a religious war folks. Islam has declared war on civilization and every other religion.

Posted by: likwidshoe at February 12, 2006 08:31 AM (XJO7P)

82 SÃƒÂ¼leyman wrote, Nobody has a right to insult someone or somebody. Yes we do. Understand that, repeat it, say it aloud, and do whatever it takes to learn it. We can say whatever the hell we want about that prophet of yours who liked to have sex with children**. ** Incidentally, this is not an insult. Your prophet was a sick pedophile.

Posted by: likwidshoe at February 12, 2006 08:35 AM (XJO7P)

83 Shame -- when Muslims worldwide start acting in a manner that merits respect, we in the West might begin to show you some. Until then, we could not care less about your feelings or religious law. Tell you what -- when the severed heads of binLaden, al-Zarqawi, al-Zawahiri and the rest of the leadership of al-qaeda are deposited on the doorsteps of US embassies by Muslims, and when the terrorism stops, then we will consider the possibility that your religion has something of worth in it.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at February 12, 2006 11:13 AM (6Soqt)

84 The muslims of this world are to ready to jump to conclusions.They want the whole world to be muslim. Its a fact. Well I will not bow to an dictatorship, that controls your whole life. As to the terrorists. Well , Kill them, chop of thier hands and feet, and bury them in pigskins.If muslims want respect, they must earn it.

Posted by: muslimkiller at February 12, 2006 04:36 PM (zrznb)

85 Fuck your mothers! This cartoons are really SHAMEFUL! Thats not acceptable! Siktirin amk.

Posted by: PiÃ§ler at February 13, 2006 02:20 PM (2te/T)

86 OROSPU ÃƒÂ‡OCUKLARI HEPİNİZİN EJDADINI

Posted by: babbaa at February 14, 2006 10:56 AM (Qo8v5)

87 Hz. isa sizden utanıyor. O ÃƒÂ§armıha siz layıksınız.

Posted by: yusuf at February 15, 2006 09:15 AM (OlhZf)

88 lan amını evlatlarını siktiğimin evladları sizin analarınızın gÃƒÂ¶tÃƒÂ¼nÃƒÂ¼n amına korum piÃƒÂ§in evlatları ne idÃƒÂ¼ğÃƒÂ¼ bellisiz babası orospu cocukları sizin anlarınızın amında 3 kıl kaldı diğer 20000 tane kılı ben sike sike dÃƒÂ¶ktÃƒÂ¼rdÃƒÂ¼m ya aaaaaaaaaaaa ebeninizin amını gÃƒÂ¶rdÃƒÂ¼nÃƒÂ¼zmÃƒÂ¼ bkz. ebenizin gÃƒÂ¶tÃƒÂ¼ne morsa vede buruşmuşsa sorumlusu benim hehehehhehehhe kusura bakmayın gavurlar SORRY SORRY FOR YOUR MOTHER

Posted by: deli-yusuf at February 15, 2006 09:25 AM (OlhZf)

89 hey ragheads. write so that we can read, not in your backward squiggle

Posted by: muslimkiller at February 17, 2006 05:20 PM (3kV/c)

90 ulan orospu ÃƒÂ§ucukları sizin hepinizin amına korum piÃƒÂ§ler ananızı sikiim hepinizin ulan amcık aızlıu gavurlar

Posted by: sadnasn at February 18, 2006 11:25 AM (bvIyv)

91 when muslim's are in heaven,you all christs burn in hell.devil will do meetballs from your bodies. fuck you all christs. you all are son of bitches bastards.fuck you muslimkiller.

Posted by: christ fucker at February 18, 2006 11:39 AM (bvIyv)

92 Hmm, letme see here: - LOTS of variations of "fuck" references here; - LOTS of references to "fucking" mothers here; - LOTS of other assorted perverted "fucking" references here: - Instigator of this whole camel-jockey mess was an open pedophile; - The one Hollywood movie that best describes relations between towelhead* men is "Brokeback Mountain"; - Random squiggly drawings published in an obscure newspaper** in a small European country = worldwide mouth-foaming/street fighting/bomb throwing insanity; Oh, yes, I see where the whole world should bow down to your superior religion/culture/mores/system of law. Point well taken, lads, we'll take it from here! What a bunch of maroons. *Actually, they were first published in a prominent Egyptian newspaper some 8 months before the Danish one. Why no mass protests back then? It was a Muslim newspaper. See? **I have just been informed that the Splodidope crowd does not wear towels on their heads, they are in fact small sheets. Ah, I see. My bad. I will remember to refer to you all (using short, monosyllabic words and no fast movements) as Sheetheads from now on.

Posted by: NotATard at February 18, 2006 03:01 PM (VqJjL)

93 Oddly, I'm not too worried about you dark-age rejects f***ing my mother. I guess that's because I know you prefer goats and young boys. I won't even bother posting a picture of Muhammad (piss be upon him). Why bother? Every gay porn movie made features him prominently.

Posted by: Master Shake at February 18, 2006 05:08 PM (mq3NB)

94 It would seen that muslims are obsesed with fucking. Well as they fuck small boys and virgins I aint surprised. When muslims die they come back as pigs, so every one can make bacon from them. It would seem strange that all muslim countries are slightly backward? Also the recent calamitys that have befallen contries like the tsunami, the earthquake and other, all happened to muslim countries. It would seem to me that muslims are been punished for killing inocent christians. But then who do they crawl to for help. May be we westerners should leave them in the cesspits the create

Posted by: muslimkiller at February 19, 2006 12:53 PM (3kV/c)

95 I think muslim are over reacted, what r they trying to proof, they should all be nuke, before the iran has arms with nuke.

Posted by: A at February 20, 2006 08:36 AM (Xqz/P)

96 you don't know what did you do...Do you belive life after death...you will go to hell for this caricatures....your god is Allah too...Chirstian Jewishness and Islam are religion....yes religions of Allah.....your God is Allah, my god is Allah too..please read Koran....only a lot of sura.... Edison did read Koran (sura of glory)and he did find electric...Captain Custo did read Koran and leard this...."Salty water don't mix with drinkable water" KORAN SAYS ONLY REALS. KORAN İS BOOK OF GOD

Posted by: elhamdÃ¼lillah mÃ¼slÃ¼manım at February 20, 2006 10:15 AM (aFxhM)

97 nuke nuke nuke uffffffffffffffffff...... These are lie.....Lie of America..... America wants oil ...not peace..... Dad Bush is liar... son bush is liar too......i miss Clinton...He is real pacifist....Bush wants Turkey too.... Why? But we have very borons and toryum....if war starts, turkey isn't silent as iraq..... I know this..." Persia isn't silent too.....

Posted by: TURKEY at February 20, 2006 10:33 AM (aFxhM)

98 MoHAMmed was a prophet for the Devil, AKA, Satan.

Posted by: The Other Dave at February 20, 2006 09:43 PM (yJVqu)

99 orospu cocukları

Posted by: yusuf at February 21, 2006 05:33 AM (xVx1N)

100 Have a look at this:

Posted by: muslimkiller at February 21, 2006 02:49 PM (MEmoY)

101 Have a look at this sie for more fab cartoons http://www.zipperfish.com/free/yaafm12.php Give those islomoturds something to think about elhamdÃƒÂ¼lillah mÃƒÂ¼slÃƒÂ¼manım, I think you are smoking bacon to think Edison would hve read your rag before inventing electricity, so go and fuck camels

Posted by: muslimkiller at February 21, 2006 02:58 PM (HTsZu)

102 this is not a dogma for muslims(for us).thıs ıs only a respect and a precaution for againist to idolize our religion. we only want a little respect ourselves from the other religion communities.just as we respecet their beliefs.

Posted by: kenan the survivor at February 22, 2006 10:13 AM (Dn4bp)

103 May I just quikly interfear with your heated discussion? Christians- arnt you supposed to win souls for God through practissing his love and forgiveness, but remain silent at times when you can not feel this love? So Live and Love. Muslims- do you really belief God is so small weak and feable that he will feel heart and deminished in his almightyness by the sribbles a little insignifficant and confused human, who is probably fighting his own inner spiritual battle? No, and you know it. Spiritual rules exist because a God cares about us. And --Yes we have responsibility for those around us, we shall help them learn individually, for every heart matters. But for those astray we shal have pitty as we do for an injured, not hatred. The doctor that beats his sick patient with a stick will never cure him. The Docter who listens and cares does. So Listen and heal. Nonbelievers- rejoice- for you heaven is on earth, but try to make it heaven cause it's the only chance you have. So go and creat heaven for the rest of us.

Posted by: simon at February 24, 2006 05:34 PM (lHzdZ)

104 kqjenpao ihepo

Posted by: Faustinus at February 27, 2006 07:32 PM (CxG96)

105 fuck you denmark

Posted by: kill of denmark at February 28, 2006 11:16 AM (bxo46)

106 anasını siktiğiminin danimarkası orospu ÃƒÂ§ocukları gotunuze sokayım piÃƒÂ§ÃƒÂ§ÃƒÂ§ÃƒÂ§ lleerrrrrrrrbunu yayınlayan siteye sokum

Posted by: fuck you denmark at February 28, 2006 11:18 AM (bxo46)

107 I adress all the people in the world.We,Muslims are fully free. You, Christians, are slaved with your greediness and desires. No one is immortal. What are you going to do in the other world? You wont have freedom of speech there. I do not expect you to change your religion.but just respect us and our Holy prophet. Keep in mind we can die for him without hesitation. Anyone insulting him in fact insults himself. I hope you will put an end this nonsense war among the religions. May God be with you!

Posted by: Muhammed Ak at March 01, 2006 02:47 AM (fap1V)

108 hepinizin anasını sikiyim. hepiniz anası sikilmiş orospu ÃƒÂ§ocoklarısınız. o karikatÃƒÂ¼rler yÃƒÂ¼zÃƒÂ¼nden tÃƒÂ¼m piÃƒÂ§ hristiyanlar cehenneme gidecek.. tÃƒÂ¼m hrıstiyanların bacısını sikeyim... (turkısh)

Posted by: muhammed at March 02, 2006 01:27 PM (eqO3R)

109 sizin ben ananızın amına sokarım yalnız anana zaten benden ÃƒÂ¶ncede islam ordusu girmiştir ananı bacını eşiktekini beşiktekini sizin hepinizin anasının amına kızıl haÃƒÂ§ ordusu girmiştir

Posted by: nalan at March 07, 2006 01:11 PM (ZBYSJ)

110 orospu ÃƒÂ§oÃƒÂ§uklari din iman kok mintan hepsini sikkiimmmmmmm sike sike sikim kan gren olsada yine sikimmmmmmmmmmmmmm orrospuuuuuuu ÃƒÂ§oÃƒÂ§uklariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Posted by: cazannowa at March 15, 2006 07:39 AM (1ghuf)

111 Yep, I did it. I read ALL of the posts before this one. From all of it, I've determined there are three basic post types. Christian, Muslim and not-involved. The Christian says "why the bombs and anger" over the cartoons. The Muslim says "respect me or you'll be blown up and burn in hell". The not-involved simply says "you're all idiots for believing in lies". The bottom line truth is EACH and every one of you reading these posts should resort to their own WRITTEN belief system. Christians, should do unto others as they would have done unto their own. Muslims should pray for the salvation of the non-saved world. Since Muslims are taught to believe in Jesus; Muslims should not regard Christians as not-saved. In theory, they should balance each other out. The rest are fair game. Christians (yes, you get the first spanking because you should know better): Continue to live in Grace with peace and understanding for all others. Get back to the two commandments (you know what they are). Muslims (because you're the sensitive ones, you're second in line for the spanking): No one doubts your faith (it is strong). But please, to live in this multi-cultural world, you really should continue with your education. Remember, if you allow violence and hatred into your world, then thats all you have when its finally done. And for YOUR GOD's SAKE; stop throwing bombs. All the rest of you; I pray you choose your after death fate soon before you lose life and become nothing. And a moral scolding to all of us: We've come a long way; haven't we yet learned that love of all others is better than hate of each other? Muslims: Respect is earned, not demanded. Allah does not want slaves for followers. Christians: Remember to love and forbear, for all these things must come to pass. All others: try not to enjoy the show too much.

Posted by: Balancing the rhetoric at March 21, 2006 08:25 AM (af0Nx)

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January 28, 2006

Islamic Media Center Tied to Danish Terror Threat?

Aaron at Internet Haganah has this fascinating expose of the potential ties between the Islamic Media Center and the recent terror threats against Denmark:

Shortly after the appearance of the threat to attack Denmark, in October 2005, a series of arrests occured throughout Europe. We suspect that there may be a link of some sort between the individuals rounded up in Bosnia, the UK and Denmark in late October, and the person or persons currently issuing threats as "The Glory Brigades of Northern Europe".

Among the global jihadi community, there are few names more recognizable than Zubbeiddah1417, the person behind the artfully made IMC videos. more...

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An Open Letter to Iben Khattab (fatwa issued)

To 'Iben Khattab', the assmuncher who is using my avatar on Islamic bulletin boards,

Never in my wildest dreams would I ever have thought some one would ever use the avatar I created on Islamic bulletin boards. Big foot sightings boards? Yes. Alien abduction support communities? Yes. Angelina Jolie lesbian fan clubs? Certainly. But not bulletin boards set up for pro-jihadi propaganda!

Now, I know many Muslims don't believe in 'copyright laws', but don't worry, I'm not threatening to sue you. I just want you to know that I think that you're an asshole and a thief. Stealing my avatar, that I created, makes you a thief. Using that avatar to spread pro-jihad propaganda makes you an asshole.

In the name of Allah, the unmerciful, the uncompassionite, the Lord of Moons, the enabler of pedophiles, I issue a fatwa against you. All who meet Iben Khattab are hereby ordered to flip him the bird and fart in his general direction.

Love,

Rusty Shackleford

PS-Thanks to Tribeca for noticing the avatar and to Richard from Hyscience for helping me translate the threads in question.

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January 26, 2006

We'd Like To Help You Out, But...

From The US Department of State:

It is unlawful for a person in the United States or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to knowingly provide "material support or resources" to a designated FTO [Foreign Terrorist Organization].

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