These are my notes on today's sweep for the suspects in the July 21 failed terror bombings. All four prime suspects are believed to now be in custody. Of note is that police believe there may be a fifth bomber because a fifth device was found in a rucksack dumped on open ground at Little Wormwood Scrubs.

Here's a brief status of the investigation:

- SWAT teams in dramatic raids at several W. London locations with no reports of shots fired

- Muktar Said Ibrahim, 27, arrested today in London for attempting to blow up the Number 26 bus in Shoreditch

- Ramsi Mohammed (possible alias) arrested today in London for attempting to bomb Tube near Oval

- Hussain Osman (aka Osman Hussain), 27, Somali-born naturalized Brit, was arrested today in Rome for attempting to bomb Tube at Shepherd's Bush

- Yasin Hassan Omar, 24, arrested in Birmingham last week for attempting to bomb Tube near Warren St.

- Two unnamed women were pinned to the ground and arrested today at Liverpool Street Station in London. Both were described as dark-skinned, 20-ish, Muslims with full headscarves. One woman ran when police asked to see inside the bag she carried.

- Total terror suspects currently in custody at 20.

Companion post at Interested-Participant.

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First off, the issue here isn't about Christians, as much as what's become a tool of the MSM to propagate liberal views and liberal appeasement of Islamists, to the detriment of the continued existence of the American way of life. And of course it's not just against Christians, but our very civilization, it's just that Christians have become the MSM's favorite target as the so-called professional journalists do their utmost to facilitate the Islamization of America! Silence the Christians (the Sunday people) and the door is open for sharia and fullfilment of Islam's "Twenty year plan for America. "

As with most Christian Americans, I just can't help but notice the ongoing American press' love of Islam and it's embracement of everything anti-American and anti-military while allowing and promoting every deceitful feint of Islamic leaders to hide their true agenda - world domination and turning the White House into the Muslim House.

Today, an AP/CBS image in their hyped-up, dhimmi-article (which many Americans will get suckered into believing), "Muslim Scholars Condemn Terror," the AP and CBS made it over the top, insulting every American that ever fought(and those that are continuing to fight) for his/her country, and every American citizen that believes in freedom, tolerance, and our way of life.

[AP/CBS image - A 'Crescent and Stripes']

My very first thought when I saw the above treasonous image, what Clarity and Resolve refers to as the "new and improved Islamic American flag (with optional prostrated Muslim everyman in Western attire and Kufi skull cap), courtesy of al-Sociated Press/CBS," were the words, "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS." (notice the Muslim encouragement of repealing our right to bear arms so we're defenseless should they feel the need for their jihad to turn violent or so their terrorists don't have John Q to deal with)

The AP and CBS, the so-called professional journalists, really got suckered into this fatwah thing, a fatwa issued by none other than the Fiqh Council of North America, headed by Muzammil Siddiqi, past-president of the Islamic Society of North America. As it's head, Siddiqi has advised American Muslims to participate in the political system - BUT ONLY IN ORDER TO CHANGE AMERICA INTO A MUSLIM COUNTRY... AND WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT ALLAH'S RULES HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED IN ALL LANDS, AND ALL OUR EFFORTS SHOULD LEAD TO THAT DIRECTION (Infiltration, p 21., Nelson Current 2005). [much more to come on this and al-taqiyya in future posts]

Aside from the 'professionals' getting suckered, which I took no pleasure in, seeing the AP/CBS image symbolizing the defeat of America by Islamofascism, invoked a deep sense of disqust, and made me think of two images of my own that represent the exact opposite of what the AP and CBS have in mind for America:

For the benefit of the AP and CBS, THE ABOVE IMAGE IS THE TRUE AMERICAN FLAG - AND THERE IS NO MUSLIM ON IT AND THERE IS NO CRESENT WHERE OUR STATES ARE SYMBOLIZED.

As the AP/CBS image appears in print and online - the guys in the below image, and thousands like them, are fighting for the right and freedom of the AP, CBS, and the rest of the Islamofascist-supporting, Islamist-appeasing, ostrich-imitating American press to continue helping our enemy, the moderate-pretending Muslims and the Islamist agenda, to throw sand in our eye as they continue, with the help of the MSM, their ongoing culture and publicity war supporting the Islamication of our country, to the detriment of the religious freedoms of non-Muslims everywhere:

In the above image, two of our very special troops doing a very special job are risking their lives multiple time a day (I know this for a fact because I speak to the guy on the right with the rifle - several times a week), to bring a halt to the spread of Islamofascism around the world - while the likes of the AP, CBS, and the rest of the liberal MSM continue their own special assault against the very foundations upon which our nation was built. more...

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As the MSM continues to be focused on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Middle East, the Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG) has warned that the West should begin paying more attention to Somalia because this East African country, torn apart by rival warlords and tribal gangs, provides a logistic center for al-Qaeda.

The warning was contained in a recently published research report entitled "Counter-terrorism in Somalia, Are we loosing hearts and minds?", edited by Suliman Baldo, the ICG's Africa programme director:

"Away from the spotlight, a quiet, dirty conflict is being waged in Somalia." writes Baldo in the introduction. "In the rubble-strewn streets of the ruined capital of this state without a government, Mogadishu, al-Qaeda operatives, jihad extremists, Ethiopian security services and Western-backed counter-terrorism networks are engaged in a shadowy and complex contest waged by intimidation, abduction and assassination." The United States "has had some success but now risks evoking a backlash." It is not surprising: after the huge failure of the international peace efforts carried out between 1992-1995, Somalia still finds itself in total chaos, despite an October 2004 agreement reached to establish a transitional federal government.

You may recall that on Dec. 12, 1992, about five weeks before the expiration of his term as President of the United States, George H.W. Bush launched Operation Restore Hope and committed the Clinton Administration and 26.000 American troops to a humanitarian effort in Somalia. Twenty other nations committed 13,000 troops to provide both food supplies and security to war-torn Somalia. Gen. Mohammed Farah Aideed, whose rebels controlled most of the beleaguered nation, welcomed the relief effort, believing he would be able to successfully exploit the Americans into helping him defeat his arch rival, the al Qaeda-backed warlord Ali Mahdi Mohammed who controlled the city of Mogadishu. When Clinton took office, his Defense Secretary, former Wisconsin Congressman Les Aspin, cut the UNOSOM-2 force to 4,000 regular Army troops(3000 of which were support troops, NOT combat troops) and 400 Army Rangers. Earlier, in September, 1993 Gen. Colin Powell, Bush-41's carryover Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, asked Aspin to let him beef up the weakened American forces in Somalia with tanks and armored vehicles.

Aspin declined Powell's request, and we all know what followed. There was no military response to the resulting humiliation, and there was no resolve to see the new mission goals to fruition. The only remaining superpower in the world withdrew from Mogadishu with a whimper, and left like a beat dog. Hopefully, we have since learned the lessons and repercussions of such a 'cut and run' decision - now, we have the potential of having to go back and finish the job Clinton ran from. Our friends on the left calling for a hasty retreat from Iraq should heed well the lessons of Somalia, and strongly consider what's happening now in Somalia, and it's contribution to worldwide terrorism. more...

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Captain's Quarters writes in his "Further Collapse Of AQ Bombing Cell," that British investigators have now added nine more people to the list of those arrested after the botched bombings of July 21, where all four bombs failed to detonate properly and left a treasure trove of evidence for police. Police confirm that they have arrested 20 suspects, including one of the erstwhile bombers.

As offered by Captain Ed in his post, the investigation has occured with great speed and effectiveness. However, the deeper investigators delve into the nests of the terrorist underground the deeper and wider the pit appears and the more we realize just how far amuck a captured religion has departed from reality. It's now obvious that the London cell(s) are extensive and that participants, collaborators, and supporters are literally spread out across the globe, with suspects having fanned out beyond Britain to Morocco, Pakistan, Zambia, with connections to all the way to Oregon in the U.S, Egypt, and elsewhere. This as India is reporting that terror camps are being revived in Pakistan. And this is only a small part of an incredible series of connections that have continued to exist since prior to August 2004 between the remote and harsh border regions between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the burning land of Iraq, and Europe, and particular France, Spain, Italy, and Great Britain. Networks such as these don't collapse over a few weeks of investigations and arrests of low level ground troops that are expendible - after all, that's their job, to expend themselves while killing as many other people as possible.

And while terrorists have been 'nesting' all over Britain and the rest of Europe, the EU is just now waking up to the idea that gee, they ought to stop the funding of terrorists!

For a possible remedy for all of this madness, and an approach to truly collapsing al-Qaeda and the Islamic terrorist-conducted war on civilization, Efraim Halevi's "Rules Of Conflict For A World War" are begining to make more sense:

Efraim Halevi (Jerusalem Post) The multiple, simultaneous explosions that took place on the London transportation system were the work of perpetrators who had an operational capacity of considerable scope. There was careful planning, intelligence gathering, and a sophisticated choice of timing as well as near-perfect execution. We are faced with a deadly and determined adversary who will stop at nothing and will persevere as long as he exists as a fighting terrorist force. We are in the throes of a world war, raging over the entire globe. We are in for the long haul and we must brace ourselves for more that will follow.

The executives must be empowered to act resolutely and to take every measure necessary to protect the citizens of their country and to carry the combat into whatever territory the perpetrators and their temporal and spiritual leaders are inhabiting. The rules of combat must be rapidly adjusted and international law must be rewritten to permit civilization to defend itself. There is no doubt that international cooperation is essential. Yet this cannot replace the requirement that each and every country effectively declare itself at war with international Islamist terror and recruit the public to involve itself actively in the battle.

Cross posted by Hyscience

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The man arrested for his involvement in the "Millenium Plot" has been sentenced today for a whopping 22 years. Twenty-two years?

SEATTLE (AP) — An Algerian [Ahmed Ressam] who plotted to bomb the Los Angeles airport on the eve of the millennium was sentenced to 22 years in prison Wednesday by a judge who used the opportunity to sternly criticize the Bush administration's anti-terrorism tactics.

"We did not need to use a secret military tribunal, detain the defendant indefinitely as an enemy combatant or deny the defendant the right to counsel," U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour said. "The message to the world from today's sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the ideals that set our nation apart."

Wrong! A man who attempted to kill hundreds of Americans gets sentenced to twenty-two years in prison is an outrage. Not only was this case blown in terms of an inadequate sentence, a connected case in England and one in Germany will not be able to proceed without the testimony afforded. If this had been a military tribunal, there may have been a way to provide testimony to these other two cases.

When taken into context of another case which wrapped up this past month, that of Islamic cleric al-Timimi out of Virginia was sentenced to life in prison for encouraging jihadis to fight U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, this is a slap on the wrist. Ressam intended on setting off explosives, found in his trunk by an alert Border Patrol agent, at LAX which again would have killed hundreds of U.S. citizens. This plot is believed to be connected to Al Qaida, so now we've sentenced an Al Qaida henchman who has tried to kill U.S. citizens to 22 years in prison. Good job.

In other terrorism-related jurisprudence, a man believed to be connected to the brutal killing and decapitation of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was found and arrested in Pakistan.

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Arthur Chrenkoff posts today on what he calls. "A fascinating glimpse on the authorities' search for the common intersection in the otherwise diverse lives of the eight London bombers," and reminds us that the same pesky Finsbury Park mosque with the hate-spewing mouthy imam was "also the launching pad for the "shoe bomber" Richard Reid and the "19th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui."

Although Arthur finds it "amazing how much trouble can come out of one place - and by extension, what a timely action of the type only contemplated now against those inciting jihad (such as deportation) could have possibly achieved to prevent the current troubles," I find it to be more an example of too little, too late. It's a weakly punative action following too much hate and violence that's been allowed to be taught to Muslim youth from mosque pulpits by Islamist clerics, for far too long.

On the other hand, few can disagree with Arthur's observation that "we shouldn't think there are easy solutions," because there aren't any. Yet, we have to start somewhere, sometime, doing what is necessary to end the insanity of Islamofascism and the mindset and actions of those that tolerate, support it, and facilitate it. As Arthur writes in his closing, "It's going to be a long, long conflict."

Just how long and how costly in terms of innocent lives lost and dollars spent on terrorism that could be much better placed on making our lives healthier, more comfortable, and more useful, may very well depend upon our immediate recognition of our enemy's agenda, our collective(as a civilization) willingness to speak and act as one voice against Islamofascism and all it's tenets and acts, and on the speed and actions taken to stop the madness of the Islamist's agenda to "establish a world dominated by Muslims, Islam, and Islamic law, the Shari'a. Or, "to cite the Daily Telegraph, their "real project is the extension of the Islamic territory across the globe, and the establishment of a worldwide ‘caliphate' founded on Shari'a law."""

That agenda must be stopped dead in it's tracks!

As Mark Steyn has said, "Terrorism itself will end only when the broader culture refuses to tolerate it. There would be few if any suicide bombers in the Middle East if "martyrdom" wasn't glorified by imams and politicians, if pictures of local "martyrs" were not proudly displayed in West Bank grocery stores, if Muslim banks did not offer special "martyrdom" accounts to the relicts thereof, if schools did not run essay competitions on "Why I want to grow up to be a martyr."" To which I add, "and when we in the West stop tolerating such crap!"

Yet, on the matter of "tolerating the madness of that broader culture, the culture of Islam," aren't many in the West just as guilty when we look the other way or offer excuses and pretend that gee, it's just a few extremists and if only the moderate Muslims will speak up?

Even if truly moderate Muslims exist, which some doubt, again, borrowing from Mark Stein, "Why are we surprised that "Muslim moderates" rarely speak out against the evil committed by their co-religionists when the likes of Mr Paddick keep assuring us there's no problem? It requires great courage to be a dissenting Muslim in communities dominated by heavy-handed imams and lobby groups that function effectively as thought-police.""

It's true that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, or involved in terrorism, and this needs to be said strongly if people assert otherwise. But if the Metropolitan Police really believe what Brian Paddick says, if they really, truly think that the words "Islam" and "terrorism" must not be linked, then we have little hope of catching the killers, of understanding how the terrorism works, or of preventing new atrocities.

If you substituted the phrase, "politicians and apologists for Islam," for "Metropolitan Police" in the above paragraph, you'd be reading a statement that is 'right-on' target. Let's leave the issue of contribution to terrorism for just a moment to digress to the terrorism conducted by the IRA: more...

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1 “Oxford Law Prof alarmed at "police’s Mossad-style execution" of innocent ’suspect’ Police state: Like many of my fellow-Londoners I am less alarmed by suicide bombers than I am by the police’s Mossad-style execution of a ’suspect’ (who turned out to be a completely innocent passer-by) on Friday 22 July. This is not because we are at greater risk of death at the hands of the police than at the hands of the bombers. (Both risks are pretty tiny, but of the two the risk posed by the police is clearly smaller). Rather, it is because, all else being equal, it is worse to be killed by one’s friends than by one’s enemies, and worse to be killed by people in authority than by people not in authority. Here are some other important things to remember in thinking about the police actions of 22 July: (1) There is no general legal duty to assist the police or to obey police instructions. Rice v Connolly [1966] 2 QB 414. (2) There are special police powers to arrest and search. But there is no special police licence to injure or kill. If they injure or kill, the police need to rely on the same law as the rest of us. (3) The law allows those who use force in prevention of crime to use only necessary and proportionate force. Jack Straw and Sir Ian Blair say that officers are under great pressure. But this is no excuse. In law, as in morality, being under extra pressure gives us no extra latitude for error in judging how much force is proportionate or necessary. R v Clegg [1995] 1 A.C. 482. (4) Arguably, the police should be held to higher standards of calm under pressure than the rest of us. Certainly not lower! (5) The necessity and proportionality of the police use of force is to be judged on the facts as they believed them to be: R v Williams 78 Cr. App R 276. This does create latitude for factual error. In my view it creates too much latitude. The test should be reasonable belief. The police may be prejudiced like the rest of us, and may treat the fact that someone is dark-skinned as one reason to believe that he is a suicide bomber. But in court this reason should not count. (6) It is no defence in law that the killing was authorised by a superior officer. A superior officer who authorises an unlawful killing is an accomplice. R v Clegg [1995] 1 A.C. 482. (7) The fact that those involved were police officers is irrelevant to the question of whether to prosecute them. It is a basic requirement of the Rule of Law that, when suspected of crimes, officials are subject to the same policies and procedures as the rest of us. ( Some people say: Blame the terrorists, not the police. But blame is not a zero-sum game. The fact that one is responding to faulty actions doesn’t mean one is incapable of being at fault oneself. We may blame Tony Blair for helping to create the conditions in which bombing appeals to people, without subtracting any blame from the bombers. We may also blame the bombers for creating the conditions in which the police act under pressure, without subtracting blame from the police if they overreact. Everyone is responsible for their own faulty actions, never mind the contribution of others. This is the moral position as well as the position in criminal law.” Bellacio

Posted by: Menezes' Ghost at July 27, 2005 03:38 PM (/+dAV)

2 Greg, you better stop stealing other people's material. That's called plagarism and it's against the law. We're going to turn you over to the police. Think about all that dope you have in your possession. You will be found out to be a traitor for sure, and the Patriot Act looms large. I don't know it you can make it in prison, Greg. Think about this the next time you steal posts from the inmates at Indymedia.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 05:33 PM (DDXXI)

3 Jesusland, Go to Finsbury, I gave you the map earlier

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 06:49 PM (ScqM8)

4 No, DSM, you didn't give me no map. That was Greg you gave the map to. You know you and Greg have some business at the mosque with your jihad buddies. You probably want to beat up some girls and old women. That's about your speed.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 07:00 PM (DDXXI)

5 the death of that brazilian guy is exactly why the nuclear option fr mecca looks so good. we end up trading liberty for safety. we need to make the muslim terror problem a problem that muslims solve at their expense and not ours.

Posted by: Mr. K at July 27, 2005 07:20 PM (VudXl)

6 Haysooos, I gave the map to Finsbury to everyone, including you! Beating up old women and girls? That is immoral and illegal. However, BUSH says it's ok to gun them down at checkpoints in Iraq and call them collateral damage. I'm much more Christian than that charlatan is.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 07:57 PM (ScqM8)

7 "Both British and Pakistani officials were “FURIOUS” with the Americans for helping to unmask their spy, according to the New York Daily News, and the Brits had to launch a series of high-speed chases to catch Khan’s fleeing cabal. A senior Pakistani official told the Associated Press “this intelligence leak jeopardized our plan and some Al Qaeda suspects ran away.” BUSH, in all his clowning glory is a TRAITOR TO AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 08:01 PM (ScqM8)

8 Greg is not after the young girls. Its the young boys. I see the crazy Downing Street Moron is in bed with him/them. Mr K: Okay, I agree. But how?

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 06:11 AM (eVGfQ)

9 Klanrooster - racist pigskinner Rove-Bidet - the boys ran away from you and asked me where the police station was.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:32 AM (ScqM8)

10 I'd like to thank all those of you expressing your support for us here in London. It's nice to know we're not alone. I'd like to make an observation about the recurring threat here in London. Following 9/11, how many attacks have there been in the US? Nil! In London, we have been attacked twice in the space of two weeks and are being advised to expect further attacks. I think the reason behind this is our government's insistence on putting human rights, free speech and civil liberties above the basic right to life. 9% of British Muslims are sympathetic to the London Bombers. That's 45,000 people. Even if only 1% of those are fanatical enough to contemplate jihad, that means there are another 450 home grown bombers waiting to strike. We have so far tracked down 8 (4 suicide bombers and 4 in custody). Also we are consistently told by our government to carry on as normal and show that we are not afraid and that we will not be terrorised. That's OK for Tony Blair and his buddies to say but they don't have to travel on the London Transport System. They have armed guards and chauffeur driven cars. I am very afraid ! So much so that I am aiming to build up clients for my accountancy business as soon as possible so that I can work from home rather than in the city. We have tolerated this Islamic evil for too long but our politically correct government would rather stand up for the terrorists and their sympathisers than for decent law abiding British citizens.

Posted by: Lloyd at August 02, 2005 08:41 AM (mxFdI)

11 Lloyd: Take heart. Our prayers are with you. Right win triumph over these goons.

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Call me Donald Trump. Ok, not me exactly, but call loyal reader, Filthy Allah, Donald Trump. Thanks to his efforts, a British jihadi named Wasim Majid got fired.

On June 9th we posted some e-mail addresses from an al Qaeda support group masquerading as an X-Box bulletin board asking you, the readers, to e-mail these sons-of-bitches. To our surprise, one of the terrorist-loving assholes responded to quite a few readers.

It turns out he was British. Oh, and he worked for an immigration law-firm. Just the kind of person the Brits want working at an immigration law-firm: a jihadi or jihadi supporter.

Who knows, this piece of filth may have used his position to help other terrorist supporters into the U.K.? Pretty scary to think that pro-terrorist forces might become immigration lawyers and use their positions to bring more terrorists into Western countries.

Filthy Allah decided to contact the man's employer about the e-mail exchange he had with him. Long story short, just a few weeks after 7/7 the British law-firm has done the decent thing and fired Wasim Majid.

See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!

Note to British authorities: Now that Wasim is sans job, it might be in your best interests to keep an eye on the guy. Unemployment often gives rise to suicidal tendencies. Call me crazy, but the thought of a suicidal al Qaeda supporter wandering the streets of London makes me worry. Just a little.

UPDATE: And thanks to Jawa guest-poster The Dread Pundit Bluto, a jihadi journalist may have been fired! more...

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Here's a reader comment from 'Malik' who writes from the exclusive area of Marina Del Rey, California. Scary thought that a jihadi or one of their supporters is a) American b) rich. Notice that he identifies America as YOU although he posts from an exclusive area of the California coast and writes like a native.

America it's time for you to be oblieterated just the way the all-mighty Romans were by the Barbarian hordes. See, they never thought they were vulnerable. They thought they had everyone standing at their doorstep well below. How ironic that history repeats itself...hmmm....

PS-Spent the day at my brother's house in Huntington Beach. Man, it's like 15 degrees cooler down there. Lucky bastard!

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From the Associated Press

British Islamic leaders Wednesday called for a judicial inquiry into what motivated the bombers.

"The scale of disenchantment amongst Muslim youth is very clear to see," said Inayat Bungalwala of the Muslim Council of Britain.

"Various factors are at play: underachievement in education; a high rate of unemployment; discrimination in the workplace; social exclusion, and also the government's own policies, especially in Iraq. The process of how we get four homegrown suicide bombers must be understood and that is why we are calling for an inquiry."

Hmmm...what could account for this discrepancy? Could it be...oh, I don't know....ISLAM?

Seriously, Mr. Bungalwala, if you want to be seen as contributing to the solution, rather than exacerbating the problem, you need to encourage your fellow Muslims to actively expose the monsters hiding within your community.

Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.

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A new report from Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) bluntly accuses British intelligence and counter-terrorist organizations of knowingly allowing Middle Eastern terrorist groups to operate freely within the United Kingdom. It directly contradicts statements made earlier by Lord Chancellor Charles Falconer and characterizes the UK as a base for international terrorism:

By the mid-1990s the UK's intelligence agencies and the police were well aware that London was increasingly being used as a base by individuals involved in promoting, funding and planning terrorism in the Middle East and elsewhere. However, these individuals were not viewed as a threat to the UK's national security, and so they were left to continue their activities with relative impunity, a policy which caused much anger among the foreign governments concerned. As a result of giving lower priority to international terrorism, the British authorities did not fully appreciate the threat from Al-Qaeda. The failure to gain any warning from existing information of the 9/11 attacks on the United States was an intelligence failure of the entire Western alliance, not only of the US intelligence community.

Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto, who apologizes in advance for any typographical eccentricities (first time using Movable Type).
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Armies of Liberation.

What an apt name. Over and over again, Jane Novak invades the nation of Yemen, not by force of arms, but with the power of 21st century instant communication.

Somewhere, Joan of Arc is smiling. So is the blog grandfather.

Despite what you've been told, the government of Yemen is no ally of the United States.

For whatever reason, the Yemeni government's duplicity has, aside from Jane's tireless efforts, so far managed to escape scrutiny by the world at large. It has to stop.

"Hey, bonehead, that's nice, how do we get to annoy the terrorist?"

Read this post from Jane.

Look for a comment by "Amin Al-Sharaabi." Call him names. Give him the verbal finger.

As an added bonus, he put his email in the comment.

And as I well know, Jawa readers love to email terrorists.

UpDaTe: greg, I said what I meant and I meant what I said.

uPdAtE II: I'm going with Dean on this one, if you have a blog, link and t/b to Jane's post. Let's give this a Technorati boost. And an ecosystem boost as well. The Yemeni government needs to be shown for the Islamotards that they are.

ETAdpu III: Apparently, the goat molesting little Islamotard wanna be jihadi's email is a dead one. Mine got returned. But keep those comments on Jane's post a-flowing.

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So I was doing some research on Magdy Mahmoud Elnashar who was nabbed in Egypt today as a 7/7 suspect and I found his e-mail at Leeds University. Since he's now experiencing the pleasures of the Egyptian penal system and is no longer at Leeds University where he just earned his Ph. D. I figure I won't post it. I mean, he probably won't ever get to read it so what possible value could e-mailing the man who's apartment was used to construct the bomb that killed 52 innocents and mamed hundreds more?

Oh, right. There is that.

So, if you think there might be some theraputic value in e-mailing this son-of-a-bitch and telling him just what you think of him, here you go.

UPDATE: Try this e-mail address, instead: m.elnashar@chem.leeds.ac.uk

7/7 terrorist Dr. Magdy Mahmoud Mostafa Elnashar's e-mail address: bmbmmme@leeds.ac.uk

UPDATE: *sigh* e-mail is dead. Which is odd since most universities don't kick you off their e-mail systems until long after you graduated. But Dave's quip in the comments section may explain why his e-mail is down. It is currently being looked at by British intelligence.

I wonder if he still has voice-mail? Those take a little longer to change. Here is his telephone number if you're a Brit and this is local:

+44(0) 113 3433162

Here is a cached version of his bio.

Also, have you ever wanted to read a peer reviewed scientific paper published by a terrorist? Well, here's your chance to read Novel Matrix for Biocatalyst Production. You mean to say that terrorists might be as ordinary as the guy next door? They go to work, come home, and are generally good neighbors until the day they blow people up? They don't roam the streets yelling death to America all day long? I don't believe it.

Another Update: It looks like the terrorist in question was on a fellowship sponsored by the European Union. These kinds of fellowships are routinely given out to anybody that applies and meets the general qualifications--including foreigners. In fact, if the fellowship that Elnashar received was anything like fellowships in the US, his status as an Egyptian national would only help him--after all, diversity before all other considerations!

So, all indications are that Elnashar was a good student who had received some amount of recognition at Leeds University. The only sign that he was a terrorist was that he enjoyed talking about his religion. Isn't that odd? A religious man becoming a terrorist?

Yet another update: Looks like Andrew Cochran knows how to do a Google search too.

Mike Pechar, a co-author here, makes this important point at his own blog:

It needs to be noted that Elnasher has been reported to be a chemistry student, a chemistry lecturer, a biochemistry researcher, and a chemistry professor. Right now, it's not really clear what he is, but it has something to do with chemistry.

What bothers me is the possibility that he is a biochemist. If so, and he's found to be a terrorist, there is the likelihood that he may have been working on biological weapons

Yet another update: Dread Pundit Bluto finds that the grant he recieved was worth about $60k.

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1 sounds like a good idea, emailing a guy who's email is about to come under review by intel agencies and law enforcement, let me fire up thunderbird right now!!

Posted by: dave at July 15, 2005 11:14 AM (fsJ2z)

2 bmbmmme@leeds.ac.uk? Bomb Me? Yeesh.

Posted by: Donnie at July 15, 2005 11:16 AM (WktwR)

3 Don't these degerate a-moral goat pimps know that if they keep this up, that we will turn their so called "Holy Cities" into dust? Sure. Osama and friends. Set off a nuke in nyc- Go ahead. You will cause the worlds muslims to say Buuuh Bye to every thing you hold dear. Nuke Mecca, Medina and every other dirty town that you and your ilk find necessary to your so called religon. Buhhhh Bye. ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP! POOOF!! So, Keep it up Hamad & Mahmoood. Keep it up. Remember, don't look at the bright light.

Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 15, 2005 12:01 PM (yBHNA)

4 http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:s4QeV0YMqucJ:www.chem.leeds.ac.uk/IRC/melnashar.htm

Posted by: asgeir at July 15, 2005 01:09 PM (b3OAj)

5 This idiot: Bruce Michielsen (bruce.michielsen@gmail.com), sent me this: "Hey powerless_brainless, you seem to have affection for that moronic country of yours. You'd make fine cannon fodder! Enlist! Bush needs padding like you. And you're so easy to piss off, which would make great sport for us goat-fucking-sand-niggers. Gotta go now. Blowin' up London t'day, y'know!" I googled him and he seems to be a white Dutch muslim who is highly confused, or maybe a half-Arab who loathes himself for only being half "pure blood". In any event, I forwarded it to Interpol and the FBI, and probably will again just to make sure it gets seen. I'm tellin' ya, these spolied rich kids all need a good beating.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 06:38 PM (0yYS2)

6 ah, never mind he has a gmail account, his email's already being read by the NSA

Posted by: dave at July 16, 2005 12:26 AM (fsJ2z)

7 Anyone know if this asshole was American educated?

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[UPDATE 7/15--El Nashar arrested in Egypt]

Two more suspects identified in the London bombings. Add visas given to Middle Eastern professors and graduate students to my list of immigration reforms. One of the suspects is a college instructor, Magdi El-Nashar from Egypt. [UPDATE: Suspect also went to graduate school at North Carolina State. Scroll down for info...] Also, co-author Mike Pechar reveals the identity of London's fourth mass-murder--and he's Jamaican. This means he was not the son of Pakistani immigrants, as the other three were, and that he was a most probably a convert to Islam. I'm thinking a few puffs of the ganja would have been a good thing in this guys case. Never heard of a Rasta terrorist before......

Lindsey Germaine, Jamaican-born, lived in Buckinghamshire.

[UPDATE: He is not the mastermind, only a suspect] According to other sources. A chemistry instructor at Leeds University has been implicated as the possibe as the mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings, but the fact that the bomb-making materials were found in his apartment puts him squarely at the center of the conspiracy.] The way the article is written, it sounds as if he may have been a graduate student but I'm not sure how the British University system works exactly. The Sun:

A CHEMISTRY lecturer linked to the Leeds bomb factory was being hunted last night by cops trying to trace the mastermind of the 7/7 atrocity.

Egyptian Magdi El-Nashar, 33, rented a flat at 18 Alexandra Grove in the suburb of Burley.

The lecturer — also taking a PhD biochemistry course at Leeds University — vanished days before the London outrage.

He is thought to have returned to Egypt, where al-Qaeda have a strong base.

At least two of the suicide bombers who caused the carnage have been connected to the flat, 200 yards from Leeds Grand mosque.

Forensic experts were searching the house in which the flat stands yesterday — and are thought to have found explosives. Anti-terror cops are also trying to trace ANOTHER suspected prime mover of the London attacks.

POLICE believe they have identified the man who planned the London bombings.

It has also emerged that one of his recruits - Edgware Road bomber Mohammed Sadique Khan - was a teaching assistant in a Leeds primary school.
The leader of the terrorist cell is believed to be in his 30s and of Pakistani origin. He arrived at a British port last month and is understood to have left the country the day before four suicide bombers murdered at least 53 people.

Security sources believe he has been involved in previous terrorist operations and has links with al-Qa'ida followers in the US. It is believed he visited the bombers in Leeds and identified targets. Security chiefs say he is also likely to have schooled his recruits on how to trigger their rucksack bombs almost simultaneously.

UPDATE: Tim at Opinion Bug and Confederate Yankee tell me that Magdy el-Nashar also studied at NCSU in Raleigh, NC. Do you think he dropped out because the local hotties at the Releigh Hooters offended him? Via Opinion Bug this from NBC-17:

An Egyptian-born academic being sought by London police as part of their investigation into last week's terrorist bombings spent a semester at North Carolina State University, school officials said Thursday.

Another UPDATE: So, a college professor/grad student (haven't sorted that one out yet--any Brits care to help distinguish?) is at the center of the conspiracy to murder civilians and terrorize London--pretty bad. IT. GETS. WORSE. Malkin on freakin fire--Government funded youth center hub of jihadi activities, tie group together. Your tax dollars at work!

And yet another update: It looks like he was a graduate student who also lectured. Something I am all too familiar with. DC Examiner:

In a statement Thursday, Leeds University said el-Nashar enrolled in October 2000 to do biochemical research, sponsored by the National Research Center in Cairo, Egypt. It said he earned a doctorate May 6.

"We understand he was seeking a postdoctorate position in the U.K.," the university said. "His visa was updated by the Home Office earlier this year. He has not been seen on the campus since the beginning of July.

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Hat tip to Blogs of War for this. According to CNN British troops--yes, troops-- raided a home this morning in Leeds. The fact that troops were involved makes me suspect the Brits are finally taking the war against Islamic extremism with the proper attitude. Also note that it looks like the attrocities were carried out by homegrown suicide-mass-murderers.

BBC has more:

An arrest has been made in Yorkshire after the identity of the suspected London bus bomber led police to make a series of raids.

Security sources said the bus bomb suspect died in the blast but it is unclear if it was a suicide bombing.

They believe the four bombers were British born and all died in Thursday's bombings.

Police have carried out controlled explosions in Leeds and Luton and searched six houses.

BBC home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said all four bombers were believed to have died in the blasts.

Meanwhile police in Leeds are looking for explosives and have already seized some material.

An unoccupied house in the Burley area of Leeds was one of six raided in Leeds after the attacks. Up to 600 people have been evacuated from the area....

Meanwhile in Luton the railway station has been closed and a cordon placed around an area that also covers the bus station and parts of Luton University campus.

Police said a car they believe may be connected to the London bombs has been found in the car park....

An anti-terrorist hotline for anyone who might have information for the police has been set up on 0800 789 321.

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Evan Kohlmann of the Counterterrorism blog e-mailed telling me he had done some interesting research on a suspect in the London bombings, Abu Musab al-Suri (a.ka. Mustafa Setmarian Nasari). It seems that al Suri has that whole "I wasn't involved in that act of terrorism, but I wish I had" thing act down to an art.

-He denies involvement in 9/11--but praises it and laments the fact.
-He denies involvement in the Madrid train bombings--but praises it and calls it a legitimate act of resistance.
-He denies working with serial infidel beheader Abu Musab al-Zarzawi--but prays for his safety.

But here's the money quote:

...It is not a far cry from justice to adopt the slogan, 'Dirty Bombs for a Dirty Nation [the U.S.]....Let the American people--those who voted for killing, destruction, the looting of other nation's wealth, megalomania, and the desire to control others--be contaminated with radiation! We apologize for the radioactive fallout."

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Ok, the source for the story seems pretty iffy to me and the alarmist nature of the report seems way over the top, but I was a Boy Scout and was always taught to be prepared for the worst case scenario. If true, this would definitely qualify as worst case. Anyway, interesting reading when taken with the proper skepticism. WND:

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market....

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America....

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border.

The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.

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1 Time for some serious investigative work. I wonder if the conspiracy buffs on the Left will pooh-pooh stories like this.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 12:57 PM (x+5JB)

2 YBP, I can't speak for the left, but I've been called a nut for reporting stories much more credible than this one. If fanatics had a bomb in the US, they would have blown it up by now. Why wait to coordinate attacks? Just blow them up as they become available. One bomb would be plenty to get our attention. By delaying the attacks so that they can be coordinated, the terrorists risk being discovered, especially now that it is being discussed on weblogs. This is just more booga boooga designed to make us more compliant to a government with designs on abolishing the Constitution. I was a VFD in the Hays, Blanco County area for many years. If I were a terrorist, I'd buy 100 Bic lighters and an SUV and travel around the country starting fires every 50 miles. You wouldn't get caught. Imagine a thousand wildfires set off in July and August. There isn't enough water in the US to fight 1000 major wildfires. Either the 'terrorists' have no imagination or there are no terrorists.

Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 01:20 PM (iWcdC)

3 Either the 'terrorists' have no imagination or there are no terrorists. Oy - I was going to say how Farah's reliability was almost zilch, some of the worst I've ever seen, but then Greg opened his mouth and totally took the steam right out of my argument.

Posted by: Editor at July 11, 2005 01:25 PM (adpJH)

4 But we deserve it. Our military industrial complex destroys lives blah blah blah Haliburton blah blah blah Chimpy lied blah blah blah Chomsky said so. Etc.

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 11, 2005 01:25 PM (/sTqi)

5 Greg--I think a fire or two might get started before witnesses would start to come forward to identify your SUV.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 01:29 PM (x+5JB)

6 All you've got to do is look in your review mirror and if the coast is clear, you flick your cigarette out the window. Hell, I've probably started fires without even knowing it back in my smoking days. In Texas, the dead spring grass is so dry in the summer that if you pull off the side of the road, your muffler starts a fire instantly. If I wanted to, I could have the whole state burning in 5 days. Imagine what 20 firebugs could do.

Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 01:40 PM (iWcdC)

7 If I wanted to, I could have the whole state burning in 5 days. Sounds like you've thought about this a little too much, Greg. You should really choose your words a little more wisely - those are classic words of a psychopath.

Posted by: Editor at July 11, 2005 01:55 PM (adpJH)

8 Editor: I truly don't think Greg is a psychopath. Not certifiable, at least. Greg: I think a lot of people thought they could get away with crimes if they just looked in their rear-view mirrors. You'd be surprised how witnesses seem to come out of the woodwork.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 02:02 PM (x+5JB)

9 MOST people get caught who commit major crimes. (Whether the ACLU gets them off, though, is another story.)

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 02:08 PM (x+5JB)

10 If I was AQ, I'd want to blow all my nukes at the same time for maximum effect. If they only blow one at a time, it's likely this country would be locked down so tight they'd be unable to move additional nukes without getting busted. Even greg would be out looking for those guys (or maybe he's still be blaming Bush, I don't know).

Posted by: Carlos at July 11, 2005 02:14 PM (8e/V4)

11 No greg, there are no terrorists, it's all a Joooooooish plot designed to distract us while they... well what is it they want to do? Something involving Black Helicopters™, I'm sure. You are possibly the most moronic, idiotic, stupid Chicken Little I've ever heard of. You're even stupider than kos, and that says a lot.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:16 PM (0yYS2)

12 As much as I hate to say it, I must agree with greg with this one, as he said a single bomb would be enough for a mass casualty event. isn't it also funny how the same gangs that are being targetted by the 'minutemen' (MS-13) and with the same agenda (crossing the mexican boarder) are also mentioned in this article. If they had forty weapons, I doubt they would need to build more. This smells like "seal the boarder" scare mongering from here.

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 02:19 PM (fsJ2z)

13 From a logistical perspective one would assume that AQ would pursue this track with complete abandon. The PR victory from a nuke attack on the US would be priceless. Now whether or not they have these bombs is another story. If they did, why not wait? They would assume an attack of this magnitude could be a final and descisive blow. Imagine every single major shipping port in the US being nuked. L.A., Boston Harbor, etc. etc, throw in a couple of refinerys for good measure, and as the cherry on top remove 5% of the work force. You just might initiate a very long downward spiral. It would be tough to recover from something of that magnitude, if we truly ever could. Anty

Posted by: Anty at July 11, 2005 02:20 PM (K/zPN)

14 "The PR victory from a nuke attack on the US would be priceless." Yes, until the reprisals began. There would be mass slaughter of muslims in America, and probably massive bombing of cities in Iran and Syria just for starters, and possibly nuclear retaliation against several countries. America would survive, but it would be the beginning of the end for islam.

Posted by: Imrpobulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:24 PM (0yYS2)

15 I have heard rumors--and they are only rumors--that back channels were opened to bin Laden after 9/11 that threatened dropping a nuke on Mecca if a WMD was ever used in the U.S. A MAD logic with Islamist extremists. That could explain why they don't detonate.... Then again, the most likely reason they haven't used nukes is that a) they don't have them or b) they haven't been able to smuggle them into U.S.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 11, 2005 02:33 PM (JQjhA)

16 subject: Councilman ejected from studio T. Bubba Bechtol, part time City Councilman from Midland, TX, was asked on a local live radio talk show the other day just what he thought of the allegations of torture of the Iraqi prisoners. His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous applause from the audience. "If hooking up an Iraqi prisoner's scrotum to a car's battery cables will save one American GI's life, then I have just two things to say": "Red is positive" "Black is negative"

Posted by: eyerocker at July 11, 2005 02:39 PM (rLMxn)

17 'Misguided Criminals'[BBC Lead today] OK Folks, I do know that G2 does attrackt it's share of tin foil types but from time to time there is good stuff that comes from there. See my comment over at Wizbang: WB Link Other venues have discussed for several years the Soviet suitcase nukes that don't seem to be accounted for. As to why AQ has not struck in the US, I heard somewhere from a Pundit [NEWS channel] is that AQ is very aware of the MAD theory. There is a manuscript that was found in one of the Baltic countries that detailed this plan of attack. That's why they struck in Spain when they did and also last week in London. Just enough to twitch our noses a little and to get the LL and the MSM rolling again on the meme "It must be all our fault for the 'misguided criminals'[BBC Lead today]"

Posted by: Ron Wright at July 11, 2005 02:39 PM (mrka3)

18 1. On 9/11 the SAC Base where Air Force One landed in Lousiana was conducting an exercise & the bombers were armed & ready! 2. If you check closely enough you will find reports that cancer patients riding mass transit in NYC are carrying letters from their doctors, because they are tired of being strip searched for setting off the RADIATION monitors that we DO NOT HAVE!

Posted by: Sine Nomine at July 11, 2005 02:42 PM (kLzBj)

19 I have no doubts that they wish to obtain nuclear devices, I have doubts they have received any. even if they were offered I doubt they could identify a real device, from fake: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/27/wdupe27.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/02/27/ixworld.html where they purchased irradiated containers, containing metal.

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 02:54 PM (fsJ2z)

20 As any astute investor knows, the worst case scenario is as likely as the best case scenario. That doesn't mean that there isn't a threat or that we should all assume Al Qaeda won't try something of this magnitude. BUT, I'd say the "worst case scenario" of multiple nukes is far less likely than other scenarios (say, one nuke). Which, again, doesn't mean that it's nothing. One nuke is more than enough. Now, assuming this story is true, wouldn't we have expected a total fucking roundup of every MS-13 gang member and have their asses hauled down for some serious interrogations? Surely there are rap sheets on these fucks and some kind of validation could be done one way or the other. In all honesty, I think the article is a lot of fear-mongering. The government needs to be on guard for these kinds of things, for sure, but I'd say that if this article is as legit as its author claims, then a lot of work has already been done behind the scenes. It's definitely unsettling stuff, regardless.

Posted by: Venom at July 11, 2005 03:00 PM (dbxVM)

21 "I have heard rumors--and they are only rumors--that back channels were opened to bin Laden after 9/11 that threatened dropping a nuke on Mecca if a WMD was ever used in the U.S. A MAD logic with Islamist extremists." I can't see someone so evil (bin Laden) caring about this.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 03:03 PM (x+5JB)

22 Editor pissed me off with his snide remark, so I did some investigating and have identified him. I shall now reveal his identity to everyone: http://www.wackedup.com/Rants/head%20up%20ass.jpg

Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 03:05 PM (Di+L7)

23 http://www.globaloptions.com/news_5-22-03.htm Look Al Qaeda are going to attack cheap medication from Mexico and Canada!!! How is it that some of these warnings happen to coincide with other agendas? e.g nuclear bombs + MS-13 + Mexico border (along with the minutemen whom claim the same) Then cheap medication, just so happening around the same time the Medicine companies were attempting to ban all imports of medication from both Canada and Mexico?

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 03:09 PM (fsJ2z)

24 Greg talks to friends via CB, on the topic that WTC7 was "Pulled" http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/mryoop789/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 03:15 PM (fsJ2z)

25 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/mryoop789/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Posted by: Editor at July 11, 2005 03:27 PM (adpJH)

26 Bush went "through the roof." I'd believe that more if he wasn't so keen on keeping the Mexico border porous. Not that I don't doubt the gist of the rest of the article, unfortuantely.

Posted by: Chrees at July 11, 2005 03:30 PM (ofjz/)

27 Bull$hit! If these beheading arab-terrorist-buttrammers had a single nuke many of us would already be dead. If they had 70 they would not hang around and plot, they'd blow one or two and threaten to spark the rest unless demands were met. I ain't skeered.

Posted by: King at July 11, 2005 03:40 PM (DIg3w)

28 That and why would MS-13 want to nuke thier cash cow the US? I think that not covering the borders is a gamble that is being played by the politicians. Whether or not it will payoff is another story. But I don't have to sneak across the mexican border to pop off a "Red Pill" in Boston harbor. Hell a zodiac coming form intl. waters can do that better than some coyote running across the desert. Anty

Posted by: Anty at July 11, 2005 03:40 PM (K/zPN)

29 King, do you believe that there are AQ cells in the US right now? If so then your argument does not hold water. Any of these cells has the capability to bomb a mall pretty much unfettered. But a functioning US AQ cell is worth a a lot more than a bus bomb. Especially if AQ thinks that they can get nukes into the country. Why risk exposure on some small operation when you got bigger things in the works? But in the end, there is only 2 ways we will know if they got a nuke in. Anty

Posted by: Anty at July 11, 2005 03:52 PM (K/zPN)

30 Um. This really does seem to be a piece of garden-variety fear-mongering. Farah is not above implicating the President in assisting, whether knowingly or not, in facilitating an attack that probably would devestate the US. Were it true. These are serious allegations. I want names, dates. Which Al-Quaida leaders? Documents captured when? Where? [googles] Okay. Farah's ONLY source appears to be Paul L. Williams, and this story first came out almost a year ago. No, wait - Almost three years ago. Call me an ass, but I have to ask: Seems to me that IF the story is true (though note that some elements of the story come and go and change over time), wouldn't it be technically easier to coordinate a multiple nuke attack than it was to coordinate and pull of the 9/11 attacks? Seems to me that Al-Quaida has no shortage of willing mass murderers. What they may lack is actual nukes. Still, once again - IF this story is more or less true - why would any Allah-fearing holy man want to engage in an action that according to rumor would only result into the turning of Mecca into a vast sheet of glass? I ain't buyin' it. Of course, if it's true there aint a damn thing we can do about it. Oh - except freak out about our border with Mexico, which, as far as I'm concerned, is Farah's reason for resurrecting an old story.

Posted by: ccwbass at July 11, 2005 03:52 PM (Y/mSQ)

31 CCWBass, Agreed.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 11, 2005 03:58 PM (JQjhA)

32 IM:2You are possibly the most moronic, idiotic, stupid Chicken Little I've ever heard of. You're even stupider than kos, and that says a lot." IM, I can't remember the last time you made an intelligent contribution on this forum. All you do is expose the inner most sanctity of your sick and violent dreams. Upon your nightstand, one would find a squirt bottle full of blood-based lubricant and a box of Kleanex that you use to slather off to your necrophiliac fantasies. You're one sick cookie. You claim to be a veteran with a medical discharge. Obviously, it is of a psychiatric nature. I feel for you. Our country and the VA have betrayed you and countless others. You deserve and need help.

Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 04:00 PM (Di+L7)

33 Gawd, Greg, your projectionist tendancies are getting a little outta hand, today. I'm sure if things were bothering you enough you could set me on fire... you know, if you wanted to.

Posted by: Editor at July 11, 2005 04:09 PM (adpJH)

34 jihad = 1,000,000,000 smoking muslims. if they nuke us, they will bow to the Trident, instead of Mecca.

Posted by: Mr. K at July 11, 2005 04:26 PM (fMcnZ)

35 A more holistic approach is needed in terrorism, rather than targetting a state to "answer" for an attack, the underlying parties need to be identified, and destroyed. You cannot continue to attack countries in response to terrorism, instead adopting the attitude of Mossad, in which terrorist leaders are preemptively assassinated or kidnapped, which is a much more precise and targetted method than using the army to crush a country.

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 04:50 PM (fsJ2z)

36 Do not assume the specific motivations of your enemy. If AQ wanted to remove America as a world power, and they thought they could set off a nuclear warhead in every major city, they would do so. They are very patient people. We got into trouble with 9/11 because we assumed Terrorists would never do such a horrible thing. Assuming that terrorists would be plenty satisfied just causing a little mayhem by bombing one city as opposed to many cities is making the same mistake. And, yeah, the southern border is an absolute joke. You could sneak a tank across it if you were patient enough.

Posted by: Jeremy at July 11, 2005 05:59 PM (QUY3Q)

37 Soviet Suitcase Nukes? Bullshit. Fuckin lazy commies couldn't make a nuke small enough to drive around in the bed of a pick up... and you better not be around it for more than an hour or 2- you'll die from radiation poisoning.

Posted by: Col. North at July 11, 2005 07:11 PM (PX+vn)

38 Greg is a phychopath. Thats why he thinks of crap like that. Does he really think every 12 year old in the country hasn't already thought of the same. Shock affect of fire, 0%. Shock affect of bomb, 100%. Deaths from bombs. A bunch. Deaths from fire. Near 0. Someone needs to grow up. If I seriously believed the muslims were going to nuke us. I would say nuke the ragheads first. Nuke them all. 1,000,000 of these treacherous animals are not worth one American. Excluding Greg of course. He is the only creature I place beneath a cowardly, child raping, goat screwing, Islamofacist piece of camel shit.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 07:32 PM (CBNGy)

39 By the way. God bless you Brits. We know you will hold your heads high and continue the fight. Great Britain is called GREAT for a reason. If the bombers and murdering dogs turn out to be muslim assholes living in England I hope you Brits to seriously into ending the problem before Britain in know more. Look around.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 07:39 PM (CBNGy)

40 Greg is a phychopath. . Nuke them all. 1,000,000 of these treacherous animals are not worth one American. Irony meter: unreadable, result to high.

Posted by: dave at July 11, 2005 07:42 PM (fsJ2z)

41 Damn margaritas.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 07:44 PM (CBNGy)

42 Dr. Shackleford-- There *was* allegedly a nuclear threat reported after 9/11, but it was quickly debunked. http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2002/03/03/20020303_154419_flash.htm My guess is the folks behind this story knew this, and ran with the fancy. I take nuclear terrorism as seriously as the next guy, but I don't buy this guy's story. For. One. Second. Let's worry, yes, but let's worry in the right directions-- and this ain't it. Cheers, Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at July 11, 2005 09:07 PM (mrpxK)

43 Look in the dictionary under dumn ass: you will find the photo's of Greg and Dave.

Posted by: jihad in the west at July 11, 2005 10:12 PM (DDXXI)

44 I gotta say that this sounds like BS. Make no mistake, there is a definite desire to aquire nukes and use them on US soil. However, I feel that if they had nukes that they would have detonated by now. Whether they were able to get them on US soil or not. To avoid detonation on US soil we do need to close the borders.

Posted by: Dissenting Patriot at July 11, 2005 11:00 PM (rZ/3j)

45 Jihad in the west:'Look in the dictionary under dumn ass: you will find the photo's of Greg and Dave.' Jihad, I'll bet you $1000.00 American you won't find the word 'dumn' in an English dictionary. And the word "photo's" shouldn't be possesive; you meant to say photos. Now, whose the dumb ass?

Posted by: greg at July 12, 2005 12:48 AM (aNzQP)

46 Greg: Make that "WHO'S the dumb ass?"

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 12, 2005 07:35 AM (x+5JB)

47 YBP, Oops. I guess I am 'dumn'.

Posted by: greg at July 12, 2005 09:21 AM (PawLA)

48 Forgive me, Greg. Once an English teacher, always an English teacher.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 12, 2005 09:36 AM (x+5JB)

49 Oh - that was priceless.

Posted by: Oyster at July 12, 2005 10:56 AM (fl6E1)

50 Greg, you have never made a valuable contribution to this blog, but rather make childish remarks and provide links to sites that sell tinfoil hats. The only help I need is a clear field of fire and you to stand more or less still at any range up to and including about 600 yards. I will be hunting choades like you one day soon, and taking trophies.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 12, 2005 08:32 PM (0yYS2)

51 i dont agree that if they had them here they would let one rip already. 9-11 took great planning and patience, which these guys are known for. if they get 10 setup and all go at once i dont think the country survives. and that is the goal. not just a bomb but devastating the west. think about it, 10 go off.... stock market crash, housing crash, international investment all pulled out... game over here.

Posted by: rayfer at July 14, 2005 10:24 PM (7h66y)

52 I only started reading this blog today. Seems it attracts a lot of folks who have very strong, albeit not always well reasoned, opinions. I am a retired intelligence analyst from the US Army. I'm no more certain than anyone else if the story is true about the nukes, but the lines of reasoning for it not being true that some of you have expressed do not stand up under logical scrutiny. For example, to say that if they had even one nuke they would have already set it off is totally undermined by the 9/11 attacks. Al Quaida could have used only 4-5 folks to have sent one jetliner into one tower of the World Trade Center (WTC) and have achieved a definite goal of proving to Americans that they could attack us on our own soil, but they chose to launch simultaneous attacks on both towers of the WTC as well as on what turned into an attack on the Pentagon (probably originally intended for either the White House or the Capital) with one attack being thwarted that would have also been aimed at either the White House or the Capital. They were shooting for not only maximum terror, but also an attack that, had it gone according to their original plan, would have thrown the United States into total chaos with the deaths of hundreds of lawmakers at the Capital and possibly the President and a good portion of his staff at the White House. None of us here can pretend to understand the terrorist mindset. Also do not assume that a threatened destruction of Mecca would deter these people for even a moment. In actuality, if we were to follow through on that threat, it truly would launch an all-out war between Islam and the West, which is what bin Laden and his fellow maniacs actually want in the first place. Many of you need to think the scenarios you suggest through to their logical conclusions before using them to support your arguments, regardless of which side you are attempting to support. I have not seen any posting on here that suggests the person posting it has the background, knowledge, or experience to truly analyze whether or not al Quaida actually has the capability or the will to use nukes to further their cause. You hould probably leave that analysis to those folks with the appropriate credentials and access to classified information that probably none of you have.

Posted by: MIChiefGCB at July 20, 2005 08:21 AM (Wvt+E)

53 I agree about the probable problems with this scenario posted earlier. Realistically, If they do ever hit us (even with one nuke); that will be the end of the middle east fascist/secular states. The next president would be elected in a landslide victory with a purpose to utterly destroy the negative muslim countries completely (or ask for total surrender from the islamofascists). We would go to a world war II style draft and configure for total war. There would be a slight danger that world war III might occur because India, China and Russia might get involved or attack their own enemies, percieved or otherwise. It would be a real mess, not just for us but for the whole civilized world. Hopefully Bin Laden, though a nut, isnt that stupid - However, I think if he had a suitcase nuke, he might detonate in a remote area in the midwest (like say northwestern Texas/Colorado area) - and decimate a small isolated town of around 40k people - not enough to destroy our economy but enough to make his point without taking us to the brink of complete nuclear retaliation. In that worst case I still believe we would retaliate massively - If anyone objected - my attitude is we would respond with a diplomatic "who wants some next?!!!!!!!!!!". Dave the Barbarian

Posted by: David Dodge at July 20, 2005 06:19 PM (Oji+9)

54 Well... one reason for not nuking could be that we just completed an election year. They might not have wanted bush to gain popular support and get re-elected. Just a thought, it's also backed in curt weldons book. Whether or not they do not have a nuke in the US would be more dependent on whether or not they have nukes! What I mean is, if they have nukes, bringing them through mexico would be literally no problem. Our borders are designed with nice BIG sand walls that protect our country well. Listen to intelligence officials, it's an if not when situation, so dont shun the possibilities. It's been 4 years, the clock is ticking.

Posted by: Michael at July 20, 2005 09:33 PM (flAPS)

55 Also, to Dave. If Osama had suitcase nukes, your idea of an explosion being made in a small town is ridiculous. Why would he nuke 30,000 people when he could nuke millions? In an attack on a city like New Yok, we wouldn't be able to live in the vicinity for decades. You should put yourself in Osama's place and add into the equation his absolute insanity, and his desire to completely an utterly ruin our society. You might not be able to comprehend that because you are a decent human being, but the facts are, we are fighting a group of people led by a complete lunatic.

Posted by: Michael at July 21, 2005 12:32 AM (flAPS)

56 I agree with the theory of nuking a small city instead of major metropolitan areas. If I were a terrorist and I wanted to totally terrorize a country the size of the US, I would want to prove to the citizens that nowhere is safe. If I only attack major cities, people in the smaller rural areas or small cities may not totally relate to something that occurs in New York City. On the other hand, if I were to attack several small cities and a few rural areas simultaneously with either a nuke or some conventioanl means, I may cause every citizen in the US to re-evaluate their individual situation. In other words, if I can make the entire country feel vulnerable, I can cause the US leadership a lot more problems since they now cannot concentrate only on the major cities. That translates into larger expenditures of funds and causes much more of a negative economic impact in other ways as well. If no place in the country is safe, then investors will become much more reluctant to invest which in turn could cause the country to go into a deep recesssion if not a full blown depression. If that occurs, you will start hearing calls from the citizenry for the US to turn inwards and totally isolate itself from the rest of the world. That in turn causes chaos for the other countries with whom we are allied. You could keep extrapolating the reactions outward, but you get the idea. The entire scenario I just described would certainly support the stated aims of al Qaida and bin Laden.

Posted by: MIChiefGCB at July 21, 2005 09:08 AM (Wvt+E)

57 well if they did attack the west with a nuke ,if you think they would use a nuke it would most likely be in paris the center of europe, fall out would reach neighbouring states. i would go over there and blow up their place of prayer or attack there relatives i would not think twice. They are killing the normal joe what they should be doing is going for policy makers not normal people like ourselves. what he is doing is creating hate towards his own race.

Posted by: noname at July 21, 2005 10:39 PM (eFuj0)

58 One thing I think about to is that AQ is patient. The first WTC bombing was in 93. They wated till 01 to finish the job.

Posted by: Seven Man Sled at July 22, 2005 07:57 AM (tUCgZ)

59 7 Man Sled, It's not just a coincidence, IMO, that from '93 to 2001 (the 8-year reign of the most inept slacker left-wing terrorist enabling idiots, the Klinton administration) that all this terrorism had the chance to flourish world wide. Is it?

Posted by: Slight Of Tongue at July 22, 2005 05:06 PM (a+qfI)

60 Perhaps we need to step back and assess this situation from a more objective stance. By that I mean that maybe a summit meeting can be arranged between ALL concerned without threats of violence therein. Yes, even Al-Qaeda can attend. All in attendance can pick their own representative(s) to speak for them. This summit would have to be under conditions of a truce or "cease fire" to be effective. Everyone's voice MUST be heard, without threat of persecution, and a mutual concensus reached. Surely we, as sentient beings, can sit down at a roundtable and have an intelligent and meaningfull discussion without blowing each other to smitheriens beforehand. Failure to accomplish this will ultimately result in true Armogeddon for no one wins in a nuclear exchange. The world is truely a beautifull place. Let's all try to work together for the common good and keep it that way. TJ in Pa.

Posted by: Craig at July 22, 2005 11:35 PM (3V0Fr)

61 You guys seems to cover all the bases except you seem to forget that AQ doesn't use your logic. What if they really want the world to revert back to the dark ages when they (the Muslims) ruled? What better way to do it than to cause an all out MAD Event (WW III)by starting the war with the remaining 2 super powers (China and Russia) and America the ONLY military HYPER POWER.

Posted by: LT at July 24, 2005 09:07 PM (RdpBx)

62 i thought voting W in was going to save us from the terrorists... somehow i'm not surprised that the man who failed to stop 9/11 from happening has now failed at stopping nukes from being smuggled in to our own contry to be used against us. you neocons voted him in and when millions of americans are killed on our own soil you will have only yourselves to blame.

Posted by: cb1ocker at July 24, 2005 09:09 PM (9NO+i)

63 Just, remember the last days of the Roman Empire, this would be pretty enlightening for some of you...

Posted by: Malik at July 26, 2005 10:49 AM (iBkIq)

64 Has anyone read Bin Laden's letter to America? He doesn't sound insane to me. Evil, yes, but not insane. He soundly states what his intentions are.

Posted by: jenny at July 29, 2005 10:07 PM (aP0iS)

65 I shudder to think of it but you should expect an exponentially larger backlash than what happened after 9/11 if nukes were used against any US city. I would seriously fear for my safety if I were an arab (anywhere in the world) after such an attack. Especially knowing how many yahoos there are in this country and how many have guns. Every arab or muslim would have a bull's eye on his/her head. The backlash would be almost as bloody as the WMD attack itself. Let's all pray it never happens. And, if it does, remember that the guy who runs the gas station or convenience store, or the family down the street who happens to be muslim, or anyone with a tan complexion is not your enemy! And..No. I am not a liberal! Far from it.

Posted by: schlomo at July 31, 2005 06:10 PM (I0mGB)

66 When I first heard this I had a sinking feeling. Simultaneous nukes in major American cities would be just the thing AQ would want after 9/11, which had the same feel -- simultaneous strikes at WTC, Pentagon, Washington. Their intent is to destroy the country. They are doing first-strike. If our "useful idiot" liberals and the politically-correct MSM are still around (didn't get nuked), I think they would again aid and abett the enemy, and diffuse our response, like they did after 9/11. 9/11 was the Pearl Harbour of Islam's war against America, and the West. Why Islam and not just Al Qaeda? AQ was just executing the ideology, Islam. Islam has two tenets that are taught in every mosque, and it is cast in stone in the Qur'an. These tenets are: 1. All of humanity are to be brought into submission to Islam. Every non-muslim is to be given 3 choices: become a muslim, pay a jigza tax, or die. 2. Non muslims are "without sanctity", their "blood, possessions, and land" are licit for a muslim to take. These two tenets are the basis of all Islamic terrorist acts. Now you know how it is that the friend and families of the muslim terrorists always say they became more pious before they went off and killed innocent civilians. They have two other tenets you should be aware of when you hear the muslims speak after these atrocities. These doctrines are calledd taqiyya (deception and dissimulation), and kitman (concealment of malevolent intentions). Islam institutionalises deception. And they call this a religion. Dr Tawfik Hamid, who came out of the terrorist group that AQ's No.2 was in, said Islam produces two kinds of people: the active terrorists and the passive terrorists. The passive ones are those we call "moderates". They are all indoctrinated with these tenets, they are just not now acting on it. Some one said, "The difference between a muslim terrorist and a 'moderate muslim' is that the 'moderate' has not tried to kill you. Yet." 9/11 was the moment when we should have ripped Islam out of the nation and ban it from the land. Did we do that? No. Why? Because our leaders called the enemy the "Religion of Peace", surprising even the muslims who were preparing to split to Cananda. It must have amused the muslims that they can attack America, and her response is to coddle them instead of driving them off the land. Now they are emboldened. They are doing a terrific job in promoting themselves as the "RoP", suing anyone for criticising the ideology, being two faced, telling the public how peaceful they are, and telling their own people in private to do what Islam commands. A muslim cleric in Australia said the terms "moderate", "fundamentalist", "Islamist" are Western concepts, there is no such concepts in Islam. In Islam there is just "muslim or non-muslim". And he is right. We are not out to lynch innocent people. Our fight is against the ideology and its executors. Islam is an ideology that is a threat to every civilized society. Islam incites and sanctions murder, mayhem and sedition. We should get legislation to ban it from the land. I'll let the muslims speak for themselves here: MURDER & MAYHEM Sheikh Abu Hamza, muslim cleric: “Murder, bank robbery and looting are legitimate weapons against the enemies of Islam. SEDITION Sheik Omar Bakri, muslim cleric: "The ultimate goal is the imposition of Sharia on Great Britain...Someday the black flag of Islam will fly over 10 Downing Street" Omar Ahmed, chairman CAIR: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Islam is currently working on fulfiling its goal of making the whole planet Islamic via a two prong approach -- active terrorists like AQ to cause mayhem and destruction to non-muslim nations, and passive ones within the nation, to excuse them and promote their agenda. After 7/7 what did the muslim leaders say Blair should do? Surrender. Do exactly what the terrorists wanted of Blair.

Posted by: skidd at August 01, 2005 09:43 AM (xnBXS)

67 To skidd: I have been telling people in Sweden abou the "world domination at any cost" desire inherent in Islam. A friends wife refused to talk to me calling me paranoid and a racist. Until the London bombs, which served as dramatic evidence for my claims. People just don´t want to accept that we might be facing a threat as big as if not bigger than the nazi and soviet threat. Everyday muslims are pouring into Europe. Like you I have nothing against individual but I am against the fascist islamic ideology, which at its inception was violent and has never changed. The public needs to be informed. Muslims should only be allowed to stay if they (1) leave their so-called faith (hate) or (2) agree that violent verses in the koran are not valid (there will not be much left). If the public really knew, then muslims will be unfortunately lyched in the street of Britain. I see no easy solution. A nuke attack on the US, would trigger massive unrest in Europe, muslims will be killed/expelled. India, China,Russia and others will be worried that they will be next and they will most likely join the US in a war to occupy and tame the Islamic world. You should see. www.faithfreedom.org

Posted by: Indo-brit-in-Europe at October 08, 2005 12:53 PM (gJkE2)

68 i dont believe this partially because their is no evidince,the u.s.a's defense budget is 490 billion and without the u.s.a they would have no funding source because the world would go into a global depression

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Jeff Quinton has news that the entertainment district in Birmingham, England has been evacuated due to terrorism threats. A sad fact that after a big terrorist attack, which 7/7 was, is that there are other terror threats issued in the aftermath.

British Broadcasting Corp. television reported that police had carried out several controlled explosions, a precaution to disarm objects suspected of being explosive devices. (source)

Jeff Goldstein reports that 30,000 people were evacuated which gives credence to the threat having enough legitimacy to evacuate such a large population. With detonated items, this can mean there was explosive material found or the threats were deemed legitimate enough and specific enough to conclude bombs may be found in certain items.

The London Times reports London police are concerned that terrorists might strike again tonight. Investigators are convinced only one of the bombers of 7/7 was killed, the possible suicide bomber in the double decker bus, and that other still remain in England. As with every investigation however, there are multitudes of people connected and if this was the work of Al Qaida or an Al Qaida linked group, the connections will be numerous.

Update:
Bongo Vongo, who lives in Birmingham, has some in depth reports including that a suspicious package on board a bus was detonated by police. California Yankee reports of the response by British officials.

Update:
Via Jeff Quinton comes the police press release.

The bomb disposal squad has carried out 4 controlled explosions on a bus in Corporation Street, near the Square Pegg public house. This turned out to be a false call. The bomb disposal squad are however, still investigating another suspicious package in the Broad Street area.

This appears to be more of a precaution and a false threat than an actual incident to me, and thankfully so.

Cross-posted at ITB. As this story breaks, I will try to update both this post and the post on my site.

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(London) While rescuers hold on to threads of hope that they may still find survivors, they wearily struggle to access rat-infested Underground tunnels, threatening to collapse. Police and emergency workers continue to warn of possible additional victims as citizens desperately search for about 25 missing friends and relatives. In the meantime, there's some breaking news on the investigation of who is responsible for the terrorist acts.

Chad Evans at In The Bullpen has the scoop on a group called Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades which claims to have awoken sleeper cells for the bombings.

In the group's communique asking their European sleeper cells to wake up (get active), they reference Fes which I concluded at the time must be a reference to a Moroccan prison where it is reasonable to assume there are members of Abu Hafs Brigades in prison.

Where it gets interesting though in relation to Morocco is that the primary suspect at this point in time is Mohammed Guerbouzi who is from Morocco. Guerbouzi is believed to be the leader of a Moroccan terror cell which has been broken up in the Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Spain and France.

From ABCNews Online:

Although investigators have not pinpointed any suspects sought in connection with the worst attack London has known since World War II, media reports say police have requested European counterparts seek out information on radical Moroccan cleric Mohammed al Garbuzi.

Garbuzi is leader of the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM) and lived in Britain for 16 years, before vanishing from his north London home last year.

It is believed he may have travelled to France.

His group is blamed for attacks that killed 45 people in the Moroccan city of Casablanca in May 2003.

London police have refused to comment on reports they are hunting Garbuzi, but British dailies the Daily Mail and the Independent say in their Saturday editions that police have made "a Europe-wide request for information" on the 45-year-old awarded asylum in Britain a decade ago.

The Independent says Garbuzi is linked to Abu Qatada, a Palestinian cleric based in London who is considered the spiritual head of Al Qaeda in Europe.

Current status of the casualty count is more than 50 dead and 22 people remain in serious or critical condition. About 100 injured were hospitalized for a second night.

Two Underground lines remain closed while most of the city's transportation network is back to normal.

[Update] GeoBandy writes that a Moroccan court convicted Garbuzi in absentia and sentenced him to 20 years in prison for the Casablanca bombing in 2003. Moroccan authorities sought extradition from Britain but, for some unknown reason, the UK did not comply.

If Garbuzi is implicated in the London bombings, it will be difficult to explain away the aforementioned.

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(Lodi, California) The Lodi mosque connection to al-Qaeda story broke last month with the arrest of two Muslims, Hamid and Umer Hayat, accused of lying to federal agents. Since that time, investigators have been busy building a case for prosecution. However, as a consequence, several new suspects are being investigated for the possibility that they attended terrorist training camps in Pakistan in addition to Hamid Hayat.

From the SacBee:

According to federal court documents obtained by The Bee, Hamid Hayat and his father, Umer, claimed the suspected Lodi jihadists reported to Muhammed Adil Khan and Shabbir Ahmed, two imams they say came to the Lodi Muslim Mosque from Pakistan to groom students for terrorist training camps.

Khan and Ahmed are being held for allegedly violating immigration laws, and through their attorney have denied being involved in terrorist activities.

In the documents, the Hayats are said to have outlined the following chain of command:

The alleged Lodi-area jihadists "would take their direction" from Shabbir Ahmed, who answered to his former madrassah (religious school) teacher in Pakistan, Adil Khan. Khan, in turn, took orders from the operator of the terrorist training camp near Rawalpindi, Fazler Rehman - whose "boss" is Osama bin Laden.

The Hayat's trial is scheduled to start Aug. 23, however, the government filed a motion on Wednesday to have it postponed to allow investigators to review the mountain of files and data that were seized during a search of the Hayat Lodi residence. The prosecutors are looking for violations of the Patriot Act. Interestingly, the reporting thus far on the update to the Lodi story has indicated a possible six additional suspects, but only two have been named, Adil Khan and Shabbir Ahmed.

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Larry Johnson frets:

Beyond the tragedy of the deaths of US 16 military personnel, this incident raises some disturbing issues. The ability of the Taliban to communicate with the outside world about activities in a remote area of Afghanistan is equal to if not better than that of the United States. War is not simply engagements on the ground, it also involves information flow. The Taliban are showing a very sophisticated capability in this regard.

Well, two points: more...

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1 Where is Bin Laden? Or should I quote BUSH LIES - "McLaden"?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 08, 2005 10:06 AM (ScqM8)

2 I'm just going to ignore the McMoron above. Wretchard is a very smart man and makes valid points. He has a knack for interpreting military issues in a cogent manner. I never take his ideas lightly as they are well thought out and make sense.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 10:34 AM (fl6E1)

3 Afghanistan Daze, sounds like a breed of marijuana or somethin.

Posted by: tyler at July 08, 2005 10:43 AM (Y9Lwb)

4 Taliban communications should not be a mystery. Satellite telephones have been used in the region for some time. And when you have ISI and Saudi supplied hardware it is not expensive to use either. Let the Taliban keep talking and the NSA keep listening...that's a good thing!

Posted by: NOTR at July 08, 2005 10:53 AM (izx0t)

5 NOTR has a point, the more they talk, the easier they are to find. They have the home field advantage in a hide-and-seek context, and they can easily slip across borders and hide among the locals who are either loyal, sympathetic, or coerced into cooperating, and they have the support of the Saudis, Pakistan, Iran, and others, but we have the technology to watch and listen and then use information gained to strike. The key is to keep terrorist sympathizers like Teddy "The Booze Sponge" Kennedy and his scumbag allies from helping them.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 08, 2005 12:03 PM (0yYS2)

6 I haven't met a lot of SEALs, but from the ones I've met, I don't think it's possible for the Taliban to have captured one "in good health". These guys are VERY well-trained, EXTREMELY disciplined, and know damn well how they'll be treated if captured. They'll fight to the point of incapacitation, if not death. Also, you're right that there wouldn't have been a high-ranking SEAL on a mission of this type--there are too few of those guys around to "waste" them on something like this. Froggy Ruminations has the names of the two deceased SEALs--one of them is a Lieutenant (O-3), who almost certainly was the team leader. The only one unaccounted for (and who thus could possibly be "captured") would be a non-commissioned officer.

Posted by: Jem at July 08, 2005 02:23 PM (wEYaf)

7 i think its all a big fake out by the Taliban...if they had captured a live Navy Seal they would have already have had his death shown on Al-Jazzera on the first day....they are just trying to make the American military upset to the point that it upsets its operations in the area...they wouldnt just keep claiming that they have one, they would have shown it for all to see...trying to keep their courage up and that of their followers is all

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 08, 2005 02:30 PM (QkIQE)

8 They're having trouble finding a convincing looking Navy Seal doll to video for us.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 02:36 PM (fl6E1)

9 "I haven't met a lot of SEALs, but from the ones I've met" if you've met one, thats one too many...they're like spiderman, dude

Posted by: seany boy at July 08, 2005 09:39 PM (7Ct0V)

10 Let's take a look at Mr. Larry Johnson, If I'm right and you guys know better then me and also I don't have the time but I think he was in the Hil(opps!)Clinton time in the so called CIA. Google his name about subjects before 9/11. I think he got 99% of he's stuff wrong in op/ed's in the country's papers. My big guess is that he doesn't have a clue. And I think he's a TeleTubby that what's to get on TV. Anybody can send a email after watching CNN. Boo Hoo! Clown Boy!

Posted by: Sir Mike of New Milford at July 08, 2005 11:54 PM (Og8hE)

11 Sir Mike, adjust the meds and try again please, as I almost had an epiliptic fit trying to read your last post. I'm sure you have something Profound to say, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is. I have to go lie down now, as vertigo has me firmly in its grasp.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 09, 2005 01:45 PM (0yYS2)

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