February 28, 2006
Internet Jihadi #1 Irhabi 007 Captured, Name Revealed (Updated)
The identity of
Irhabi 007 (also known as
Qaeda 007 &
Terrorist 007) has finally been revealed by the
SITE institute as
Younis Tsouli, a 22 year old from West London. Irhabi [which means 'terrorist' in Arabic] 007 was one of the most prolific internet jihadis of the last several years. The FBI had been
actively tracking down Irhabi 007 for at least a year. Aaron at Internet Haganah had been
tracking him for even longer.
According to SITE, Younis Tsouli was among four terror suspects arrested by Scotland Yard on Oct. 21, 2005. Tsouli, aka "Irhab 007", may have been involved in a plot to attack the White House. He has also been linked to a string of arrests in Europe--including Scandinavia--over plots to commit acts of terrorism all over the Continent.
Through his contacts with al Qaeda in Iraq and other terror organizations, Irhabi 007 put up scores of posts. Among his many claims to fame, it was Irhabi 007 who first posted the al Qaeda video of Jack Hensley being beheaded at an Islamic forum.
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Its people like this I'd like to see stripped naked, strapped upright spread apart, and paraded through major streets with citizens having the right to throw tomatoes, bananas, eggs... stuff like that, all day long, every day for weeks.
Posted by: Javapuke at February 28, 2006 06:19 PM (JQjhA)
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another misguided individual, following the "hijacked" Islam no doubt.
Posted by: dave at February 28, 2006 06:19 PM (JQjhA)
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This guy was a perennial pain in the ass...and now he's just getting pounded in the ass!
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Posted by: Howie at February 28, 2006 06:21 PM (JQjhA)
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A victim of Evil Whitey's ethnic profiling, no doubt.
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FBI Updates Most Wanted Terrorist Lists
The FBI has added new names to its
Most Wanted Terrorists List. Unfortunately,
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi only made the
Seeking Information List, where he joins the ranks of the 'American al Qaeda' leader, Californian
Adam Yahiye Gadahn. However, the information leading to Zarqawi's arrest will get you a $25 million award.
Interestingly enough, one of the terrorists, Abd Al Aziz Awda, is an imam in the Gaza strip where he preaches and lives in the open. Hmmm, you mean the Palestinian Authority isn't cooperating in the Global War on Terror?
Another, Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, lives in Damascus. Another is in Beirut after our friends the Germans released him.
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Damn, I was hoping I'd be on there this time, what with the way I make libtards piss their pants and all.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 28, 2006 08:37 PM (0yYS2)
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Wheres the names of RAMSEY CLARK,WARD CHURCHILL,and CINDY SHEEHAN?
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February 27, 2006
February 23, 2006
Able Danger: Still Simmering
I participated in a conference call tonight with Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA) and several other bloggers about the Able Danger program, 9/11, the USS Cole attack, and the ongoing coverup by mid- to senior-level bureaucrats spanning two administrations. Frankly, a lot of information was forthcoming and I need time to process it all.
But I do want to address a charming bit of character assassination by Washington Post writer William M. Arkin, who has a problem with Able Danger whistleblower Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer:
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Well, character assasination
is the only thing left to the anti-ideological ideologues of today in defense of Able Danger BS.
Its rather interesting, how undifferentiated each major party has become from one another. Democrats are the socialists with more taxes, Republicans are the socialists with a few "tax cuts" and then some hidden taxes (deficeits.) Essentially the politics of today has more the feel of a sporting event than any actual ideological confrontation. Instead of a stand between principled opponents each attempting to prove their consistant ideology is what is best for the nation, you have a pair of personalities that are universally anti-idealistic, "pragmatic" (funny how so-called "pragmatists" are so unpractical, in the long run,) and totally divorced from any thought except how to justify themselves, not even the day after tomorrow, just tomorrow.
This culture is evident in the numerous amount of spending, the inability to be fiscally responsible, and the flat-out refusal to deal with big issues - on the premise that, since nobody has any ideology to guide them on their actions as to what is right, they have no idea what is the good and proper thing to do. Thus, no one wishes to be the first one to act when the first one to do so is going to be blamed for the shebang.
Thus, our "practical" politicians have an ever-shrinking range of concern, limiting themselves to issues that can be predicted by today's focus group, tomorrow's exit polls. And that, of course, is the price one pays for allowing that dirty word, "practical," into the political scene.
To be "practical," in this day, is to compromise on whatever principles you hold for some (supposed) advantage. It has lead to the insane contradiction of a politician seeking election
for the sake of being elected - as, once you've compromised enough, the only ideal you have left is that you must compromise to get anything done - and thus, you
have nothing to compromise on and are incapable of any significant action in the political realm.
A lesson to learn. Too bad it has to be learned at the worst possible moment - but such is the penance for America's abandonment of principled stands for the individual.
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Anyone else noticed problems with Jihadwatch? Seems to be frozen up or possibly hacked.
Posted by: dave at February 24, 2006 04:07 AM (GHTct)
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MiB, you're right on, I will only add that the only thing the parties agree on is that they must steal as much as possible from us before we wise up and hang them all.
Girish, welcome.
Dave, it works fine now.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 24, 2006 04:56 AM (0yYS2)
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No, Jihadwatch still isn't updating, and the sidebar with the links and email form has vanished. Thats how it's appearing to me. I can't post a comment at all. Very odd.
Posted by: dave at February 24, 2006 05:44 AM (GHTct)
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I think JW/DW has been cyber-attacked.
By the way, I think MiB speaks truth.
Posted by: kentim at February 24, 2006 05:56 AM (CqTKB)
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Dave, re: JW/DW, I didn't notice the side bar missing until you mentioned it .
Since last night, I (only) noticed that the final comment on each thread was not identified by who posted it. It didn't dawn on me that I couldn't comment until you mentioned it. I thought it was my system blocking cookies or something . . .hmmmm.
Posted by: heroyalwhyness at February 24, 2006 06:00 AM (XU9K/)
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JW has been frozen like that for at least 15 hours I'd say.
Posted by: dave at February 24, 2006 06:07 AM (GHTct)
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oh, and sorry for butting into this thread.
Posted by: dave at February 24, 2006 06:11 AM (GHTct)
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I had not heard about this "Able Danger" thing before. Senator Joseph McCarthy comes to mind(more and more every day), remember what he said? Paraphrased-- "if these things were mistakes due to incompetence, the perpetrators would do the right thing "accidently" at least once in a while, but instead there is a distinct pattern that suggests a coherent pursuit of a specific goal".
I have no doubt in my mind anymore he was right. While chasing the Leninists, who were so obvious and easily identified, he stumbled upon the Pragmatic(Americanised) Fabians, that's where the real power is, and that was the force that destroyed him. Goldwater knew too, probably Wallace too.
The fact is, with this knowledge, almost all "history", or "conventional wisdom" is suspect. This fact is dangerous for a truth-seeker. Power is what determines what is "sane and rational", but that may or may not coincide with truth and reality.
"The Naked Capitalist" by Skousen and "Tragedy and Hope" by Quigley pretty much shatters the myth of "self-government" here.
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I'm still reading Shaffer's testimony, but so far I'm shocked that the megalomaniacal, self-aggrandizing attitudes of those charged with the defense of this country are so systemic. I guess I always knew it, but seeing so many individual accounts of it is still shocking.
Has the House Armed S_ervices Committee subpoenaed any of Shaffer's documents or email (or anything) to corroborate his testimony? It would be a dereliction of duty not to. Unless they've been purged too. This entire investigation would be a farce without it. The House Armed S_ervices Committee member's list is extensive. I wonder how many of them are taking this seriously.
I also read Cambone's testimony. Eighteen pages of obfuscation with no names and many generalities. His testimony reads like a parent making light of some child's game. His answers focus consistantly on Atta even when not requested to do so. So this is their Able Danger "expert"? Someone who was not involved in the program while it was underway and was charged with finding information on 2.5 terabytes of information which was purged? His testimony is basically useless.
(Sorry for the underscores in some words. MuNu's filters are over-zealous)
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Everyone who has taken the time to read this, don't forget the numerous supporting military and contractor witnesses supplying their own statements backing up Colonel Shaffer, some found here: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2006_hr/index.html#ad . P.S. Shaffer names conspirators in Pentagon--now anyone can call them and let them know what real Americans think of them.
Posted by: jim at February 24, 2006 10:17 AM (6Q9ZO)
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Hang in there friend and pursue the able danger to the bitter end. It looks to me like there is far more being withheld than is being exposed.
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Michelle Malkin Site Under Cyberattack
Michelle Malkin's
website was down for most of the morning, presumably due to a Denial of Service attack from hackers. The site was back up as of around 10:30, when Malkin posted, noting that the FBI had been informed of the attack.
In an update posted at Pajamas Media, where Malkin rode out the attack, she notes that investigators have confirmed a DoS attack, apparently originating in Turkey.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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I've noticed some flakey behaviour on this site as well. Slow comment boxes and restarts of the blogging software. Even got some unavailable messages. Pixi Misa is doing and excellent job keeping up with it.
Posted by: Howie at February 23, 2006 12:55 PM (LnC6b)
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Her site is still pretty slow. You know you're making an impact on someone if you end up getting a DoS.
Posted by: Marcus at February 23, 2006 01:16 PM (il1gF)
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From Turkey huh?, our allies? Our muslim friends in the region? The same ones that refused to allow our troops to come through to go into northern Iraq? All I can say is, "Go Kurdistan !!!!"
Posted by: memphis761 at February 23, 2006 01:26 PM (D3+20)
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You know you've made it when some flavor of fascist scum try to shut you down. Michelle, you go girl!
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Second Able Danger Conference Call Tonight
I'll be participating in a second conference call about Able Danger tonight. Representative Curt Weldon will update bloggers on the latest developments and take questions. This is a follow-up to
this call with Mark Zaid, who represents Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and others. The call is scheduled for 6PM ET and will last for about an hour and a half, so I may have something to post about it later in the evening.
Both calls were arranged by Mike Kaspar of the Able Danger Blog.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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February 22, 2006
UAE Port Deal Argument A Red Herring
The
squabble over whether or not to allow a United Arab Emirates company control over shipping operations at six major US seaports is a red herring. The real issue is the shameful state of port security, part of an overall slackening of security measures.
Following 9/11 a wave of public outrage forced the formation of the Transportation Security Administration to replace private security firms at the nation's airports. The plan then was for the TSA to live up to the ""transportation" part of its title and eventually take over security at seaports, railroad stations, bus stations...everywhere that mass transit operated.
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So your arguement that it's a red herring is this?
"The bottom line is that Islamist terrorists don't really need help from a middle eastern company to penetrate security at our ports."
Nice. We should just give 'em visa's too. You know since they can cross the northern and southern borders what's the point in preventing them from entering via an airport?
We can be all up in arms over China filtering free speech ... but don't stand in the way of free trade no matter who the trading partner is.
Posted by: David at February 22, 2006 12:41 PM (BhVb3)
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Bluto is right, I'm not sure of the reasons or the purpose but bluto's reason is as good as any. This frames some issues in some very interesting ways in some very interersting places. It's not what it appears at first glance. Could be realted to framing the security issue for the elections. It gives both the left and right in congress a way to distance themselves from Bush among other things I mentioned on Rusty's thread a few posts down. It helps congress domestically and Bush abroad.
Posted by: Howie at February 22, 2006 12:52 PM (D3+20)
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That's right. The UAE port deal squabble is just a feelgood-look-at-how-brave-and-vigilant-I-am clusterfuck that doesn't mean shit.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 12:53 PM (RHG+K)
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Don't worry about it, the UAE muslims are our friends. They really like us, they are the moderate muslims.
Posted by: john ryan at February 22, 2006 01:04 PM (TcoRJ)
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You make a good point, but I'd especially disagree with what you wrote about screeners at our airports. We spend far too much on airport security. It's dispraportionate to the threat.
I think I'll post something on it with reference to "prospect theory" and the "status quo effect"
Posted by: Rusty at February 22, 2006 01:24 PM (JQjhA)
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I disagree, Rusty, but if you want any information for your post just ask. There are some things I can't tell you without going to Leavenworth, but enough info is unclassified and/or already out there to curl your toes.
Remember, the big show is at the major airports. TSA makes sure that they have a surfeit of screeners there to convince the public that all is well. The small airports have been stripped to accomplish this. Of course, some of this is just because an FSD at a Cat X airport just has more juice than one at a Cat II, but the result is the same.
Ask yourself this:
"Am I comfortable with regional airports
near the Canadian border being understaffed?"
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 01:37 PM (RHG+K)
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Yes, I am. Since 9/11, the danger to us has been severely minimized. Sreeners are, in my estimation, mostly wasted money. Unless the target is blowing up an airplane--unlike 9/11--then terrorists probably won't use planes again.
Why? Because they're not stupid. They know that people on board the plane will not let them use it as a bomb. Thus, the probability that they will hijack planes for the purpose of turning it into a missile, are much lower today than prior to 9/11.
The "status quo effect" is when people use past phenomenon to judge the risk of future events. It is a risk aversion fallacy becaue we tend to overestimate the risk of events that have already occured (another 9/11 plane scenario) and underestimate scenarios that have never happned (nuclear bomb in NY Harbor).
The example of 9/11 clearly illustrates the "status quo effecc". Prior to 9/11, airport security focused on screening for a) hijackers who had no intention of dying b) bombs set to blow up the plane. Because those two types of events had happened in the past, we misallocated resources to screen for them in the future.
However, because learning occurs, risks change over time. Risk estimation tends to be "sticky" because it is difficult to estimate the probability of an event occuring in the future which has never happened in the past.
It seems to me that we should be using our scarce resources to protect against terror events that have not yet occured, and therefore seem exploitable weaknesses to intelligent terrorists.
Posted by: Rusty at February 22, 2006 02:08 PM (PEYEf)
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I find the President's personal position to be even more curious, under this red herring theory.
When the
inevitable security failure occurs, which it will with 2% lowfat inspections, you know the evil UAE infrastructure will be blamed, instead of the incompetent government flunky. This points the dagger of blame to President Bush, instead of the TSA.
National security is priority one.
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Posted by: Insolublog at February 22, 2006 03:00 PM (DSeW+)
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Rusty, I am in complete agreement with you. I think it is highly unlikely that we will see another 9/11 airliner-missle type scenario, but a dirty bomb or even perhaps a small nuclear device is possible, although not likely.
I think that the terrorists are much more likely to hit a mall, perhaps(and I dread to say it) a school, or a hospital, in a series of small attacks that could cause more casualties than 9/11. We are vulnerable to these attacks, especially in blue states where citizens do not have firearms or know how to use them. The local police are woefully unprepared to deal with this kind of terrorism, and that is why it is so important for citizens to be alert and armed. Our best defense against this type of attack is an alert citizen.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 22, 2006 03:40 PM (rUyw4)
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Rusty, it may surprise you to know that I agree with you
vis-a-vis the nature of the threat - and so does the TSA. Terrorists will likely be ripped to shreds attempting a 9/11 type hijacking today.
That's why the emphasis in screening has moved to IEDs. If a terrorist gets a plane-destroying IED past security (and you would be amazed at how small a main charge that takes) and detonates it say on final descent to JFK; well, sir, we'd have a casualty rate that would be just unacceptably high.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 04:30 PM (RHG+K)
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Bluto
Reference the TSA taking over all those responsibilities including mass trasit - they were over-reaching coming out the gate.
Multi-state, state and local authorities were no way going to give them up or lose any control (security or otherwise) over them. It was a dead issue from the start.
Federal money & funding after 9/11 has been a giant cash cow, and non-federal govt entities were not going to give up any access or control because of it, and jeopardize their cut.
Posted by: hondo at February 22, 2006 04:49 PM (fyKFC)
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One more thing Bluto
when it comes to "security" - look at all the local pols screaming for "more funding". Accountiblity of money has been virtually nil - diversions have been widespread and massive. There is a scandal brewing under the surface that probably will not see the light of day for 20 years.
Just a taste - city of NO & state of LA was awarded millions in security funding for communications, emergency response services etc. The money was "spend" but nobody knows on what.
Posted by: hondo at February 22, 2006 04:58 PM (fyKFC)
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Sorry, hondo, you're wrong on this one. That was the plan out of the gate, but TSA management squandered too much of their budget.
As for the state and local folks not being willing to give up control. They weren't willing to let the airports be Federalized, either, but that's what happened. Whether they stay Federalized or not is another matter.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 22, 2006 05:25 PM (RHG+K)
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What's shameful is that the people of this country have become degenerate to the point that we will allow such things to even be contemplated. We need a good, old-fashioned revolution, complete with the mass hanging of scumbags; liberals, politicians, lawyers, muslims, et al.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 22, 2006 05:44 PM (0yYS2)
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Bluto -
After reading your comment, I revised my blog post to reflect that you and Rusty had different perspectives on the issue. You will be happy to know that NEITHER of my readers is likely to be confused in light of my revised post.
- Eman
Posted by: Eman at February 22, 2006 09:16 PM (c/4ax)
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You are all right . The Dubai authorities lack in transparency and past of being among only 3 countries recognizing the Taliban government does not make UAE or even Saudi any safer. On the other hand their option to join hands with terrorists can not be ignored after reading about what Koran says about Muslims vs. Non - muslims.
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February 21, 2006
Al Qaeda Looking For White "Sleepers"
The trial of an Australian renegade named Joseph Thomas, who is accused of working with Al Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan, may have revealed that Osama bin Laden is trying to recruit Caucasians.
From UPI:
Western intelligence services are increasingly nervous about al-Qaida attempts to recruit white men and women, as they can more easily pass in Western society.
Australia's Herald Sun reported that an ongoing court case in Melbourne uncovered an al-Qaida attempt to recruit Caucasian "sleeper agents."
Australian defendant Joseph Thomas told his police interrogators that Khalid bin Attash, an associate of Osama bin Laden, said that bin Laden was interested in having "an Aussie ... a white boy," according to testimony in Melbourne's Supreme Court.
Prosecutor Nick Robinson alleged that Thomas's conversations with bin Attash occurred in Pakistan, where Thomas was staying at an al-Qaida safe house after training at the group's al-Farooq camp in Afghanistan during 2001.
Presumably, the Caucasians would be mercenaries. Anyone care to bet that there aren't plenty of whites willing to help out AQ for enough green?
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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I'm white. I'm asleep. Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Rusty at February 21, 2006 12:06 PM (CIynh)
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I think you have to fill out an application at the ACLU.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 21, 2006 12:42 PM (RHG+K)
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Hmmmmmm ... how much money would they have to pay me to get me to commit a suicide bombing? ...
Posted by: ProCynic at February 21, 2006 01:19 PM (bfkgE)
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Of course, it's not just mercs that we have to watch out for. Actually, white hardcore leftist ideologues who have already made common cause with Islamists against the U.S. might be even more likely aQ candidates, especially once it dawns on them that they have zero chance of actually getting their way via the political process.
Posted by: Joshua at February 21, 2006 01:33 PM (2c7xL)
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Sounds like a good opportunity to get the CIA inside to me. That would solve that pesky problem with your best agent not having the same color skin. I'm sure we have Muslims on the inside but we hear about too many cases of them being exposed to the dark side of their own religion and turning on us. I'm sure a vast majority of the Muslim CIA agents are doing good work but one bad one is too many.
Posted by: slug at February 21, 2006 01:44 PM (wcNc2)
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Jayna Davis explores recruitment of 'lily white' candidates in her book "The Third Terrorist".
Immortalizing the Oklahoma City bombing as an act committed by two lily white home grown anti-government discontents has shown how successful this tactic is. Certainly the FBI, congress, federal and state justice departments saw no cause to explore 22 well corroborated eye witness accounts to counter preconceived ( or should that be PC)notions.
Just ask Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini (the third terrorist) or any of his cohorts . . . like Majid Ajaj, Dr. Anwar Abdul, Ali Kamel, Adnon Khan, Rizwan Sidiqqi, etc. etc.
Posted by: heroyalwhyness at February 21, 2006 03:39 PM (XU9K/)
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All they need do is post at www.stormfront.org, and they'll find all the Jew-hating nazi's they could want, or just go to Kos, where they all cross-post.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 04:20 PM (0yYS2)
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Sounds like a good opportunity to get the CIA inside to me.
Sorry slug, I didn't realize you were one of those people who think the CIA still do something other than watch '24' reruns and leak secrets.
Posted by: dave at February 21, 2006 06:31 PM (CcXvt)
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It seems to me that about 99% of whites are sleeping here in the US. I wonder what the hell it will take to wake them up.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 21, 2006 06:37 PM (rUyw4)
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'Lilly whites' as described in
Jayna Davis' book about the Oklahoma City Bombing... I fear more is coming...
Posted by: tele64 at February 21, 2006 07:17 PM (pSM02)
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Other than some Kosovars and Albanians they are not having much luck.
Posted by: hondo at February 21, 2006 07:24 PM (fyKFC)
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Uh... the Bosnian Muslim SS divisions during WWII... It's nothing new...
Posted by: Ariya at February 21, 2006 09:44 PM (uxW3N)
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You can't be 11685 serious?!?
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February 20, 2006
Conference Call on the Able Danger Hearings With Attorney Mark Zaid
This evening I participated in a conference call about the Able Danger hearings with Mark Zaid, attorney for Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and other Able Danger figures, with several other bloggers. The call was organized by Mike Kasper of the
Able Danger Blog.
The bloggers were:
Ed Morrissey of Captain's Quarters
AJ Strata of The Strata-Sphere
Mark Coffey of Decision '08
QT Monster's Place
Pierre of The Pink Flamingo Bar & Grill
Rory O'Connor
Moi, representing The Dread Pundit Bluto , The Jawa Report, and Vince Aut Morire.
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I find the "able danger" threads on Jawa to be the least commented on, although for me the subject is very interesting.
What a fine job the MSM has made of making sure this story doesn't get big.
Posted by: dave at February 21, 2006 12:38 AM (CcXvt)
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I've read, watched and listened to as much info as I can find on the Able Danger program and I really do believe this is a huge and very credible story. It's easy to be skeptical because, unfortunately, on the surface it just sounds like a 'fringe' conspiracy theory. It is fairly complicated and I think some of the impact gets lost in the details.
Does anyone know if Sen. Specter plans to continue his hearings at some point? He seemed appropriately outraged at the hearing in Sept. 05.
Posted by: JohnM at February 21, 2006 02:13 AM (K8Iva)
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It's my understanding that Atta's photo was supplied by a woman (either in California or from there) who worked for a security contractor, hired by Orion Scientific, that obtained his photo and other militants by surveilling a mosque. It is also my understanding that the photo we see regularly now of Atta was not the photo that was on the missing/destroyed chart.
Who that security contractor was - I don't know.
Posted by: Oyster at February 21, 2006 06:27 AM (YudAC)
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did you see the part about that the data they mined was so vast they had to mount sections of the relationship tables on twenty-foot boards with tiny text, and was over two Terabytes disk storage?
For someone that works with Gigabyte databases, that to me is mind boggling -- especially as I know exactly how much data is available in a Database not even 0.5% of the size of able danger.
Posted by: dave at February 21, 2006 10:19 AM (CcXvt)
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I haven't commented on it because nothing is going to come of it anyway. This country is so screwed up that the only thing that can save it is a massive bloodletting. We need a good, old-fashioned revolution.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 04:42 PM (0yYS2)
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Why doesn't this information get national news coverage? I think the answer to that one is that the Administration has complete control of the major networks.
Posted by: Earl J Prignitz at February 22, 2006 10:20 AM (A9bgE)
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The reason why the "Able Danger" story doesn't get national media attention is perfectly clear. The media is controlled by the Bush Administration, period.
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Yes, Earl a story that would put the Clinton Administration into bad light due to the fact that four of the 9-11 hijackers were identified as early as 2000, and all action was stopped due to the Clintons "judicial wall" is being held up by the Bush Administration.
Perhaps you might want to actually read about Able Danger.
Posted by: dave at February 22, 2006 11:07 AM (CcXvt)
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Dave, if you are not just incredibly ignorant of this subject, then you are definitely an operative for an organization with a sinister agenda... Everyone who has taken the time to read these comments should read Colonel Shaffer's sworn testimony in its entirety, found here: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2006_hr/index.html#ad
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Indian-American-Indian Ups Ante On The Filthy One
Indian state minister ups the
fatwa money.
Amidst protests in Uttar Pradesh against the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed, a state minister Friday announced a reward of Rs.510 million ($11.5 million) for anyone who beheaded the artists responsible for the cartoons.
Looks like we need to set up a donation system for The Filthy Report.
Stein hoist to Patrick al-Kafir
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At this point the only thing I'm capable of is my gut reaction: I wish all these haters were killed. That won't happen, so, shit.
I like the Jawa Report and do believe this news is necessary, but it would be nice to see more good stuff. I know its out there ;-)
Posted by: Javapuke at February 18, 2006 05:53 PM (1uSlN)
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Look for the reaction from the Indian government and the majority Hindi population - it's gonna be important. The islamists are on a multi-lane highway to hell - and we're not the only ones in their path.
Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 05:55 PM (fyKFC)
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Javapuke, I hired Rusty to post on the good stuff that's out there.
Posted by: Vinnie at February 18, 2006 06:27 PM (f289O)
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hondo, I had no idea that there were so many Muslims in India until I received some death threats from India. India? After a google check, I saw that India is home to over 100 million Muslims. I was shocked. But not at the death threats from Muslims, as that goes with the territory.
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JJ
Last time they had an internal argument with the muslims (just a few years ago) - it left apx 3000 dead from street fighting.
There is some serious bad blood there going back centuries.
An oddity for you -
The most successful best educated muslim communities in the world are found in India (and in the west). Go figure.
Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 09:06 PM (fyKFC)
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There is some serious bad blood there going back centuries.
I'll say:
All Standard reference books agree that the name 'Hindu Kush' of the mountain range in Eastern Afganistan means 'Hindu Slaughter' or 'Hindu Killer'. History also reveals that until 1000 A.D. the area of Hindu Kush was a full part of Hindu cradle. More likely, the mountain range was deliberately named as 'Hindu Slaughter' by the Moslem conquerors, as a lesson to the future generations of Indians. However Indians in general, and Hindus in particular are completely oblivious to this tragic genocide. This article also looks into the reasons behind this ignorance.
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_kush.html
Posted by: dave at February 19, 2006 09:16 AM (CcXvt)
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Dave, the Hindu Kush got the name from all the Hindu captives that died in the crossing after they had been taken by muslim slave raiders. People taken suddenly from their homes and fields have little opportunity to dress for a trek in the Himalayas.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 02:25 PM (0yYS2)
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Muslim slave traders? IM, surely you jest! I thought it was only wicked Southerners who participated in the slave trade. Are you sure?
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 02:35 PM (rUyw4)
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We have lots of liberal cartoonists who have hurled insults at christians but we never asked for the heads even in that crappy DOONSBURY when it was insulting RONALD REAGAN all we did was get it removed from our news papers
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Taliban Supporters Behind New York Rally Against Muhammed Cartoons
I have already
posted about the fact that the Islamic Thinkers Society was behind the New York rally in front of the Danish embassy. This is the same group that
burned the American flag, celebrated 9/11, and warned that 'next time, we will get all of NYC.' Here is an admission from the group that they a) organized the rally to condemn the Muhammed cartoon b) share the same goals as al Qaeda and the Taliban--the revival of the Caliphate, institution of sharia (Islamic) law, the building of a utopian Islamic society, and the domination of the world by Muslims
Here is a screenshot of the announcement from their webpage. [click to zoom]

And a statement of their goals:
Our objective is to resume the Islamic way of life to which will fulfill the purpose of the aim. Our objective is to bring back the apparatus that was destroyed in 1924 i.e. Khilafah. Indeed it was the Khilafah that united the Muslim Ummah under one flag, one land, one border, and one leader. It was the Khilafah which served as the appartus to make sure that Tawheed manifested in all ascpect in the Muslim Ummah's affairs. Surely, anyone who accepts any other system than Allah's Shari'ah is worshipping the one who has put his laws in place of the laws of Allah. This is a major form of shirk and anyone who commits a major shirk has left Islam....
Let me remind you that the penalty for leaving Islam, especially under their version of sharia, is death. More:
This is what we, as part of Islamic Thinkers Society strive for. To create the ideal Islamic society, where the furqan(criterion) for the individuals as well as the rulers will be the Qur'an & Sunnah and the Qur'an & Sunnah only. As always, our struggle is intellectual & political. To us, this is a matter of life & death. A matter of jannah & jahannam. It requires seriousness, dedication, & sabr.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have found the American Taliban, and it is operating openly in New York City!
According to their own website, they are 'less than a handful of people'. Here is a photo of the rally by 'less than a handful of people'. I hope the FBI is keeping close tabs on this group of extremists. The MSM certainly isn't.

Do they really support terrorism? YES!
From their forum rules:
ABSOLUTELELY NO RIDICULING OF THE MUJAHIDEEN, THE SCHOLARS OF HAQQ, & THE SINCERE DA'WAH CARRIERS OF ISLAM.
Yup, they're just upset over the Muhammed cartoons.

Oh, and what do we have hear? It appears that The Jawa Report has been brought to the attention of this little band of terror supporters. The referring url takes us back to a discussion forum run by the Islamic Thinkers Society. I wonder what I could have said that would piss them off?

Did I mention they have an e-mail? info@IslamicThinkers.com
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There is a terrorist website working openly in Sweden too:
http://www.tawheed.se
Posted by: Fred Fry at February 18, 2006 03:07 PM (HJnrm)
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They're pretty much in every country.
Posted by: Rusty at February 18, 2006 03:57 PM (JQjhA)
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Rusty
Not very bright when you really think about it. Never let your emotions dictate your actions - stay cool - watch - learn - take names - wait.
Which is why Maxie (if your listening) you would have made a poor trooper in my plt.
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Oh I'm sorry hondo, I didn't realize that being passionate about the survival of civilization was a negative trait, especially since it got me through a war and several years of cold war and "peacetime" service, and will see me through our coming difficulties. Don't get confused, just because I hate muslims, liberals, and cowards doesn't mean that my emotions control me, I've read Sun Tzu too, ya know.
And you can take your opinion of my soldiering skills and shove them up your ass while you're at it, because you don't know shit about me, and you don't seem to have the balls for this fight, so stay home and let the men handle it if you can't take it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 18, 2006 06:18 PM (0yYS2)
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Ah Maxie
Your reaction was predictable.
Posted by: hondo at February 18, 2006 06:28 PM (fyKFC)
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IM, you're not at all alone in this, though most will not agree openly for reasons of unnamed fears.
Where do you hail from, if I might ask?
Posted by: forest hunter at February 18, 2006 10:16 PM (Fq6zR)
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forest hunter,
Maxie wouldn't mind me telling you that he is from Tennessee. He was raised Christian but is now an atheist, although I have high hopes he will return to his Christian roots. He is a veteran of the Gulf War and now works as a photographer.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 12:02 AM (rUyw4)
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Thanks JJ- Where are you from?
I'm still waiting for the info requested weeks ago-TPS REPORTS? Will nobody inform the humble dummy? What does it mean?
Posted by: forest hunter at February 19, 2006 12:13 AM (Fq6zR)
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Hondo, don't even try bud, my kung-fu is too strong. You may take my ruthless attitude as intemperance, but to me, your attitude smacks of a lack of resolve. If you're not in it to win, don't get in the game. I will win even if I have to stand on a mountain of bodies to do it, and even if the last body on the mountain is mine.
Hey JJ, you forgot to tell him what I like for breakfast.

By the way, I never left my Christian roots, I just don't believe in any sort of divinity. In other words, I'm a pious heretic.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 09:22 AM (0yYS2)
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Haha, ok, Maxie, but one can hope. And I didn't want to tell the forest hunter everything.
Forest hunter,
I'm from West Texas, and East Texas, and Arkansas. My daddy's from Kerrville, my momma is from Arkansas, and I've lived in all these places, plus Oklahoma. Oil patch kid.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 19, 2006 01:31 PM (rUyw4)
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JJ, that's you all over!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 19, 2006 02:27 PM (0yYS2)
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I spent a sticky month or so in Oklahoma as a guest of the US Army. It was an interesting chapter of my life and tormenting my army brothers kept the boredom at bay. Two dozen of us and hundreds of them = a win win situation, if ever there was one. I don't know what the Gunny had done to be permanently attached to that assignment, never saw that red eyed basturd smile once. He could get a decent workout just by hoisting his arm to scratch his forehead, he had so many hash marks. Our first day there, filed off the bus and standing there formed up, getting our asses ate out. Just like home I thought to myself. We hadn't even done anything..... yet! Breathing was off limits, unless and until.....blah, blah, blah! ......and Lawton! That's a city? Country boys like me don't belong in places like that.
IM- My mountain'll be bigger than yours!
Posted by: forest hunter at February 19, 2006 05:05 PM (Fq6zR)
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Islamic thinkers... isn't that an oxymoron?
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Remember that it is not just terrorism and hate that these people bring. They bring their slaves, their honor killings, their misogyny, and their pedophilia that their beloved prophet extolled. They want to change the world into their culture. They make the Aryan Nations and the KKK look like a ladies quilting club. Americans systematically run those hate groups out of town, why canÂ’t we do it with these sickos? IÂ’ll tell you why: because they dress different and speak a different language and most Americans donÂ’t understand their hate. Thank God for the net.
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Muslim To Muslim: 'Spreading the word'
Karim El Sahy has a message for Muslims
via Egyptian Sandmonkey), and we agree with ESM that it should be spread to the entire Muslim world.
Please go read it, link to it, and help pass it around!
As a courtesy to Karim, in order to help him get his message out, his entire post is reposted below (Please visit Karim's site for updates):
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Yeah, good luck with that. Meanwhile, I'm still stocking up on ammo, so if the "moderate mulsims" don't want to be exterminated, they'd better get to work, because when we're fighting them in the streets of America, I'm going to kill every one I can find.
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Should Congress Investigate the ACLU?
Jay at
Stop the ACLU is calling on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate the activities of the ACLU. Among other things, Jay cites dissension within the ACLU ranks resulting in multiple resignations and
ACLU spying on their own members.
One of the most troubling points is that in 2004 the ACLU refused to accept $1.15 million in grants from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations because:
“The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that “promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.”
The Rockefeller Foundation’s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not “directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.”
The ACLU was later successful in getting these
minor requirements scrapped.
Why?
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Uh, is that a trick question? Congress ya say. Hmmmmm.
Posted by: forest hunter at February 18, 2006 01:56 AM (Fq6zR)
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>>>Why?
Because to the ACLU those activities are "free speech".
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 18, 2006 07:46 AM (M3nr/)
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The ACLU the Atheists.Communists and lawyers UNderground the al queda of america
Posted by: sandpiper at February 18, 2006 09:14 AM (162Hn)
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No, Congress should not investigate them, the military should round them up and give them all a bullet in the back of the head.
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Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train (Updted)
UPDATE:
Pakistani cleric with ties to this group has placed a $1,000 bounty on Danish cartoonist's head.
Disturbing report from WND about terror groups using Islamic schools in the U.S. as a front for their recruitment and training activities.
I'm *shocked*. Thanks to Nicholas for sending this link:
The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.
A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.
The neighbors interviewed, who asked not to be identified, said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.
"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous." ...
Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.
Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."
The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc....
Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.
The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.
Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.
According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.
And for more,
check out The Politics of CP's extensive coverage here.
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"Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train"
Duh.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 17, 2006 04:54 PM (0yYS2)
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Time to convict and send these would be terrorist supporters to prison for life
Posted by: sandpiper at February 18, 2006 09:34 AM (162Hn)
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life sentences are too merciful for them, time to convict and sentence them to DEATH! Once they have appealed and it is upheald, the death penalty should be carried out within 2 weeks.
Posted by: Andre at February 18, 2006 10:08 AM (bQ3vG)
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No, it's time to kick in the doors, toss in a few molotov cocktails, and kill everyone who runs out.
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I have lived in these mountains for years and this is a false report. I have visited the campus and it is open to anyone that wants to visit.Across from the campus is another camping ground for challenged people. The truth needs to be told and someone should stop these false statements.
Posted by: TSgt.USAF at February 18, 2006 07:05 PM (/CoEY)
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B'SD
This is nothing less than an Al Queda
training camp in Upstate New York that must be shut down. This group are primarily Black
Moslem followers of Farqua whose former
'weapons instructor" was named Hampton El
and was convicted with other followers
of Sheik Rahman of trying to blow up
various Jews, other innocent Americans as
well as Lincoln Tunnel.Recently one of
the top Islamic Nazi types from this
outfit pled guilty for a plot to blow
up the Brooklyn Bridge, named Sayef.
Now, JDO (Jewish Defense Organization)
has a campaign to demand the weak fearful government types lock up and shut down
this Bin Laden training center in Deposit
New York. These Jew-Hating Israel-Hating
America-Hating professional liars learned
quite well the old "street hustle" lie to
the man routine when back in Brooklyn
they were dealing dope, and hustling.
They took that "skill" with them, about
how to lie to authorities, neighbors,
when the members of this outfit were
low life "professinal' drug dealers, and a
host of other criminal activities. They
were recruited into this Islamic Nazi
terror cult right out of Brooklyn up to
the Al Queda camp. Now they may have
changed their clothes style as part of the
evolution from plain criminal to Islamic
terrorist, but that inborn nature to try
and lie and deny openly almost like a
"street survival skill" is second nature
to these psychotic Bin Laden worshipping
degenerates.
People that live near these 9-11 cheering
Al Queda Brigade in Hancock must do 2
things to shut this Al Queda West camp down permanently. One street protests right at
the local elected officials offices. Mass
phone in,petitions, to their elected reps
to deamnd evcition for the Bin Laden
Brigade. Two all locals who understand
the clear danger these psychotics
represent must get legal guns, of the most
effective caliber, and form a local
emergency response team. You can't rely
on the airhead police chief of Detail NY
as he praised them on tv. Is he on the
take from them ?
THIS POLICE CHIEF OF DETAIL MUST BE FIRED!
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Defeating al Qaeda Online
Al Qaeda and the global salafist jihad network can be beaten, but not through traditional military force. The terrorists can only be beaten when we take away their major tool for recruitment and training--the internet.
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"...reshaping mass perceptions about good and evil."
Are we talking about Osama and al Qaeda or the ACLU and the MSM?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 16, 2006 06:17 PM (RHG+K)
Posted by: Rusty at February 16, 2006 07:14 PM (JQjhA)
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Follow the moneeeeeeeee!
And NO there's no difference and an amazing re-assemblence to Al-al Frankengore........
Posted by: forest hunter at February 16, 2006 11:07 PM (Fq6zR)
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BTW-glad to see you're up and running again. Your site has gone down more often than Monica on an off day! Just bitchin' so I won't get blamed for imbalance, but that's as close to being a dhimmi as I can stomach.
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Two possible reasons for the outages:
1) slammed with traffic (good outage)
2) targetted by Muslim hackers (bad outage)
Both have happened recently.
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ACLU Vs ACLU: Press Release Urges Presumption of Guilt
From a February 15, 2006 American Civil Liberties Union
press release [emphasis added]:
WASHINGTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union today urged the House Judiciary Committee to adopt several resolutions that would formally request any and all documents relating to the illegal National Security Agency domestic spying program authorized by President Bush.
Why is the ACLU trying to subvert the Constitution and centuries of American jurisprudence with a presumption of guilt, rather than innocence? Because this is the opening salvo in a bid to strip US counter-terrorism agencies of the power and ability to protect us. When you're busy betraying your country, betraying your own stated principles is a small sacrifice.
Stop the ACLU has the details of ACLU Policy #117, which calls for the emasculation of Federal counter-terror agencies.
The real reason that the ACLU is abandoning its principles in this fight is that they don't want their own conversations with terrorists and terrorist-sympathizers to be monitored. The ACLU's stated goal of protecting civil liberties would appear to be a cover, much like the bogus "peace" organizations during Vietnam and the Cold War, for activities that are clearly hostile to the best interests of the United States.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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"Presumption of innocence" is like sooo pre 9/11
Posted by: john ryan at February 16, 2006 01:00 PM (TcoRJ)
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Actually, john ryan, presumption of innocence went out the window after the 2000 Presidential election, at least as far as the vast majority of liberals is concerned regarding any allegation, no matter how insane, against a non-liberal American.
Liberal presumption of guilt
did intensify after 9/11 as a direct result of Democrats sitting on the sidelines while the Bush administration took responsibility for protecting the Constitution and the American people.
I feel your pain, john ryan, but you have to realize that the recent liberal track record for protecting Constitutional rights is dismal - all theory, no practice. That's why the American people rejected the Democratic candidate again in 2004, despite the best efforts of the MSM. It's also why Dem politicians are trying to back away from restricting NSA access to terrorist conversations and emails, the polls don't you know.
It sucks to be you, doesn't it?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 16, 2006 01:14 PM (RHG+K)
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The ACLU was founded by a socialist it is a leftist organization despite what they say its founder ROGER BALDWIN is a leftist
Posted by: sandpiper at February 16, 2006 01:52 PM (AFJdY)
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Well, that is certainly an interesting spin. A simple request for documentation of fourth amendment violations is spun into some violation of the presumption of innocence. Rumplestiltskin could never spin like that!
Posted by: Paul at February 16, 2006 03:13 PM (wAcUm)
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Paul, I actually
added emphasis to the passage. How retarded can you be?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 16, 2006 03:46 PM (RHG+K)
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Ironically enough, should a resolution be phrased in such a manner, President Bush would have no choice but to decline to produce such documents.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2006 03:54 PM (IEpte)
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Correction: should be "
any documents."
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Anybody who doesn't see the danger posed by the ACLU probably IS retarded. The ACLU is one of the most effective tools being used by islamofascists against the US. The liberal line is that the ACLU protects all of us from government abuse of power but, somehow I don't think I'll ever be in need of their services.
Posted by: Richard at February 16, 2006 04:36 PM (7KF8r)
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February 14, 2006
Another Sign of the Apocalypse
Sen. Charles Schumer opens mouth,
voice of reason heard.
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At this time, I want to apologize to all for Chucky Schumer. He is after all my Senator (and & did vote for him - blame NYS Republicans for that!). His approach to being a Senator is no different than his when he was a Congressman - a small-time local Patron (only now - big-time).
He knows how to "buy votes" - and I have in the past swallowed my pride and got assistance from Patron Schumer.
So call me a compesino or a whore - but at least I tendered and apology.
Posted by: hondo at February 14, 2006 06:47 PM (fyKFC)
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Chucky Schumer the blabbering fool why dont he stop trying to prove he is a idiot
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Terror Trial Begins for U.S. Citizens in Lodi, FBI Investigating Newspaper Leak
The trial for two Lodi, California, men who have extensive ties to terror supporters in Pakistan begins today. The Sacramento Bee, which has been following the case closely, is now the target of a FBI investigation over information it published from a sealed federal indictment.
Two Muslim religious leaders who attended the same California mosque as Hamid & Umer Hayat have already been deported. The son, Hamid, is charged with giving material support to terrorists and three minor counts of lying to investigators. The father, Umar, is charged with two counts of lying to the FBI.
Don't let this relatively minor charges fool you. They told federal investigators that they had no ties to terrorism when in fact the younger of the two, Hamid Hayat, had attended terrorist training camps in Pakistan. All this after they had become naturalized U.S. citizens and were widely seen as pillars of the community.
I believe we have a name for citizens of our country who give material support to our enemies and swear to wage war against us: treason.
Incidentally, the Lodi Muslim community was outraged at the allegations that any one of them could possibly have ties to terrorists. Because, as we all know, to suggest that the percentage of terror supporters in the Muslim community is probably much higher than the number of terror supporters among the Mennonites is not allowed. Who represented this group of victims? The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the ACLU.
Behold the face of treason.
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Treason may as well be embezzlement, because no one is executed for it anymore. I guess it's more of a white-collar crime now.
Posted by: dave at February 14, 2006 03:59 PM (CcXvt)
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Why has it taken so long to come to trial? It seems the War on Terror is a very low priority at DOJ. We were first aware of these guys 2 years ago. The son (who based on what I've seen the last two years is the real Americahater like another NoCal Fascist Muslim Johhny Walker) was almost allowed his freedom last year because of a DOJ screw up. With the giant increases in funding DOJ has had the last few years I would expect a much more agressive and competent attack on terorists.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 14, 2006 05:23 PM (lwdxR)
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This trial should already be over. Another sign that The War on Terror is in reality a very low priority with the President and his close lieutenants. Or is Alberto just incompetent?
Posted by: Jo macDougal at February 14, 2006 05:34 PM (lwdxR)
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Hey Jo/Rod why don't we just march them out back and shoot them as charged Stalin style? that way you wouldn't be inconvenienced by a long trial.
One minute you guys are crowing about Judicial process re: Presidential wiretaps, now a Judicial process is taking too long (Wasn't that the Presidents defense to the wiretap and the left said too bad?)
I bet it doesn't have anything to do with the defense and prosecution teams requesting sufficient time to prepare, evidence analysis and the like.
Posted by: dave at February 14, 2006 05:46 PM (CcXvt)
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Actually guys, they were arrested in July, which puts us at 7 months since this whole thing got started. And the DOJ has been slow on this because, apparently, a lot of the evidence is/was classified. But yeah, it does look like they've been stalling. If you want a background, check this post - http://camafia.blogsome.com/2006/01/10/lodi-background/
Posted by: KG at February 14, 2006 08:03 PM (7SapW)
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What in the world is happening to our country and our judicial system ? Soon we will receive more punishment for drunk driving than for being a terrorist! A slap on the hand for treason ???
GIVE ME A BREAK ! WAKE UP AMERICA !
Posted by: William A.R. at February 15, 2006 08:10 AM (v/qwq)
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One of the things that has been holding it up is the defense attorneys blanket requests for discovery in attempts to get ancillary data regarding methods the FBI is using to recruit and pay informants. They'd really love to get their hands on the identities so they could send their love.
The Bay Area Left is tracking this case and trying to portray it as a witch hunt involving kids who just want to shoot hoops.
Posted by: HV at February 15, 2006 09:31 PM (xydow)
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Get real folks!! This "terrorism" trial is Lodi is a farce!! Those poor victims of the FBI aren't terrorists!! The FBI is having to make up stuff now to justify their huge budget and taxpayer rip-off. After all, they have to keep the blood-thirsty crowds, made up of people like you--appeased!! They are grasping at straws, trying to give you angry men your money's worth. Get a life!! Go to work!! Do something constructive with your lives!!
Posted by: Cherith at March 06, 2006 12:45 AM (87LiX)
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Able Danger Hearings Begin
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Weldon Press Conference on Able Danger.
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...snooze. Isn't there much bigger news? like did Cheney use an old shotgun, or did he purchase it recently?
Posted by: dave at February 14, 2006 04:02 PM (CcXvt)
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The reason the CIA doesnt want Able Danger to be investigated is because Atta and the other terrorists were trained at the Huffman Aviation School in Venice, FL , a company owned by Wally Hilliard, who had one of his planes seized for heroin trafficking check it out !http://64.70.236.57/08172005.html
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