In addition to the following, there likely will be more reports of incidents of backlash against Muslims, adding challenges to law enforcers who already have their hands full.

From The Statesman:

Fire broke out in a mosque in Leeds and a Gurdwara in Kent, amid the first indications of a possible backlash against British Muslims as police said tension in the country was increasing. About 70 incidents against minorities have been reported across the country since yesterday, police said, adding they ranged from the fires in the prayer halls to two possible assaults, cases of verbal abuse and threatening calls. Kent Police are investigating two assaults on Muslim men in Dartford.

(Auckland, New Zealand) Prime Minister Helen Clark and other government officials condemned "mindless and stupid vandalism" which has occurred at about 14 Islamic places of worship in Auckland between Thursday and today.

From National Nine News:

Auckland's Muslim community found six mosques vandalised and walls tagged in graffiti with the message 'Londoners RIP' following the terrorist bombings in London that killed more than 50 people.

In what appeared to be a coordinated series of attacks in central, south and west Auckland, vandals smashed glass windows and doors and left variations of the same message in black paint on walls facing the street.

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Jeff Quinton has news that the entertainment district in Birmingham, England has been evacuated due to terrorism threats. A sad fact that after a big terrorist attack, which 7/7 was, is that there are other terror threats issued in the aftermath.

British Broadcasting Corp. television reported that police had carried out several controlled explosions, a precaution to disarm objects suspected of being explosive devices. (source)

Jeff Goldstein reports that 30,000 people were evacuated which gives credence to the threat having enough legitimacy to evacuate such a large population. With detonated items, this can mean there was explosive material found or the threats were deemed legitimate enough and specific enough to conclude bombs may be found in certain items.

The London Times reports London police are concerned that terrorists might strike again tonight. Investigators are convinced only one of the bombers of 7/7 was killed, the possible suicide bomber in the double decker bus, and that other still remain in England. As with every investigation however, there are multitudes of people connected and if this was the work of Al Qaida or an Al Qaida linked group, the connections will be numerous.

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Bongo Vongo, who lives in Birmingham, has some in depth reports including that a suspicious package on board a bus was detonated by police. California Yankee reports of the response by British officials.

Update:
Via Jeff Quinton comes the police press release.

The bomb disposal squad has carried out 4 controlled explosions on a bus in Corporation Street, near the Square Pegg public house. This turned out to be a false call. The bomb disposal squad are however, still investigating another suspicious package in the Broad Street area.

This appears to be more of a precaution and a false threat than an actual incident to me, and thankfully so.

Cross-posted at ITB. As this story breaks, I will try to update both this post and the post on my site.

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I thought this post by Dean Esmay was pretty good. At the top of his site it says “Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy”. If he is liberal he certainly is not your typical militant liberal as he really has it in for dailykos. Who apparently did a mass banning. I also note Dean does not link our site. He might get a few bad comments here but I really think it’s worth the read. I also note he supports the war effort.

Carping that strategy X is "failing" is a child's game. Grownups analyze and say, "Okay, maybe strategy X isn't perfect... but can I name a better strategy?" If you can't, then, quite seriously, all you're doing is being a defeatist--and, in this case, acting as an apologist for fascists.

I noted that Dean wasnÂ’t getting many trackbacks to his position on this issue from other liberals or anyone for that matter. IÂ’ll give him one.

Related chain of posts.

Interesting huh?

You know I really donÂ’t care much about a personÂ’s political leanings. Stupid has to be the greatest enemy. Followed closely by apathy. When it comes to the war we canÂ’t afford political childishness. I was worried that we had forgotten this is a war and started playing the same games we play with other issues. But I guess we all got a big reminder this week didnÂ’t we. LetÂ’s not slip back there again. WeÂ’ve got to push on because at least one commentator here I know worries about his child having to fight. I hope he doesnÂ’t have to and there are people working very hard right now to make sure he doesnÂ’t. I work with a gentleman, his son is in his fourth month of a 12 month tour in Afghanistan. People are fighting and dying every day. Too much mercy on the enemy is cruel to everyone including them. It prolongs the war for everyone. We can sort that out after we win which we will after much struggle and heartache. Will it be worth it? Well only time will tell us that one but the fight is in progress NOW.

Also Michelle points out some bad comments made on NPR. I listen all the time. If fact I'm wearing my WKMS tee shirt right now. IÂ’ve especially enjoyed liberals stuttering along the last few days. Shields on the News Hour last night was especially having a tough time. It was great. They all want to say see I told you we would be attacked. But the lack of sophistication of the London attack shows the weakness of the terrorists. Primitive at best and possibly carried out by just a few people. I dare to say maybe even just one. While a success it was at best a limited one. I donÂ’t want to get too cocky here though it also demonstrates a danger. More and larger attacks are possible in my opinion. Not to belittle the suffering and my gratitude for EnglandÂ’s support, but it could have been much worse. Some are saying how sophisticated. Well they were just bombs and timers. In my opinion if you have the stuff it doesn't take a rocket scientist. I wish ABC would stop it with the fear mongering.

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(London) While rescuers hold on to threads of hope that they may still find survivors, they wearily struggle to access rat-infested Underground tunnels, threatening to collapse. Police and emergency workers continue to warn of possible additional victims as citizens desperately search for about 25 missing friends and relatives. In the meantime, there's some breaking news on the investigation of who is responsible for the terrorist acts.

Chad Evans at In The Bullpen has the scoop on a group called Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades which claims to have awoken sleeper cells for the bombings.

In the group's communique asking their European sleeper cells to wake up (get active), they reference Fes which I concluded at the time must be a reference to a Moroccan prison where it is reasonable to assume there are members of Abu Hafs Brigades in prison.

Where it gets interesting though in relation to Morocco is that the primary suspect at this point in time is Mohammed Guerbouzi who is from Morocco. Guerbouzi is believed to be the leader of a Moroccan terror cell which has been broken up in the Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Spain and France.

From ABCNews Online:

Although investigators have not pinpointed any suspects sought in connection with the worst attack London has known since World War II, media reports say police have requested European counterparts seek out information on radical Moroccan cleric Mohammed al Garbuzi.

Garbuzi is leader of the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM) and lived in Britain for 16 years, before vanishing from his north London home last year.

It is believed he may have travelled to France.

His group is blamed for attacks that killed 45 people in the Moroccan city of Casablanca in May 2003.

London police have refused to comment on reports they are hunting Garbuzi, but British dailies the Daily Mail and the Independent say in their Saturday editions that police have made "a Europe-wide request for information" on the 45-year-old awarded asylum in Britain a decade ago.

The Independent says Garbuzi is linked to Abu Qatada, a Palestinian cleric based in London who is considered the spiritual head of Al Qaeda in Europe.

Current status of the casualty count is more than 50 dead and 22 people remain in serious or critical condition. About 100 injured were hospitalized for a second night.

Two Underground lines remain closed while most of the city's transportation network is back to normal.

[Update] GeoBandy writes that a Moroccan court convicted Garbuzi in absentia and sentenced him to 20 years in prison for the Casablanca bombing in 2003. Moroccan authorities sought extradition from Britain but, for some unknown reason, the UK did not comply.

If Garbuzi is implicated in the London bombings, it will be difficult to explain away the aforementioned.

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I've been quite busy writing a well researched, personal experience article about a cult I was forced to be involved in as a child. Now is as good a time as any to expose the cult that is Human Service Alliance and/or Center for Purposeful Living.

The motivation at this point is to inform the masses about the evil nature of these people and to maybe save a potential "student" from their grips.

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Just heard Peter Bergen, author of the piece in the New York Times about how London exports terrorists on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Live.

Bergen, who judging by his accent is British himself, raised the sobering point, as he did the Times op-ed, that the US offered simplified admission to EU passport holders without a consular interview or visa application. But it would be logistically impossible and politically untenable to demand those safeguards for every European visitor.

But that's not insurmountable, Bergen told Cooper. For example, we could do some sort of profiling...

And then they cut to the next story.

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(Lodi, California) The Lodi mosque connection to al-Qaeda story broke last month with the arrest of two Muslims, Hamid and Umer Hayat, accused of lying to federal agents. Since that time, investigators have been busy building a case for prosecution. However, as a consequence, several new suspects are being investigated for the possibility that they attended terrorist training camps in Pakistan in addition to Hamid Hayat.

From the SacBee:

According to federal court documents obtained by The Bee, Hamid Hayat and his father, Umer, claimed the suspected Lodi jihadists reported to Muhammed Adil Khan and Shabbir Ahmed, two imams they say came to the Lodi Muslim Mosque from Pakistan to groom students for terrorist training camps.

Khan and Ahmed are being held for allegedly violating immigration laws, and through their attorney have denied being involved in terrorist activities.

In the documents, the Hayats are said to have outlined the following chain of command:

The alleged Lodi-area jihadists "would take their direction" from Shabbir Ahmed, who answered to his former madrassah (religious school) teacher in Pakistan, Adil Khan. Khan, in turn, took orders from the operator of the terrorist training camp near Rawalpindi, Fazler Rehman - whose "boss" is Osama bin Laden.

The Hayat's trial is scheduled to start Aug. 23, however, the government filed a motion on Wednesday to have it postponed to allow investigators to review the mountain of files and data that were seized during a search of the Hayat Lodi residence. The prosecutors are looking for violations of the Patriot Act. Interestingly, the reporting thus far on the update to the Lodi story has indicated a possible six additional suspects, but only two have been named, Adil Khan and Shabbir Ahmed.

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I haven't been able to interest Pat at The State of Jefferson in a little geography/history quiz, inspired by the history that inspired his blog name. So rather than exercise any further restraint, I'm spilling the beans. Here was the question:

One area of the country managed to initiate a "successful" secession movement, not in the sense that the secession stuck, but in the sense that the movement achieved its objectives. The place also happens to be the only area of the "deep South" that fought on the side of the Union during the Civil War.

For fun and valuable prizes can you name the place, time and circumstances of the secession movement? (Hint: Check the title of this post.)

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(Asuncion, Paraguay) There's a rumor that 500,000 GIs will be going to South America for joint military maneuvers with Paraguay and the possible creation of a military base at a semi-secret airport in El Chaco. The Paraguayan Defense and Foreign Affairs Ministries stated there is no agreement with the U.S.

This story comes from one of Fidel Castro's propaganda organs, the Latin American News Agency, so it must be viewed with skepticism. That's disregarding the ridiculous contention that the U.S. has 500,000 troops standing by for orders to go on maneuvers. However, the idea of having an American military base in the heart of South America does have appeal.

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Feisty as well as Michelle are participating in a fly the union jack on your blog started by Jeff. I figured we should play along. Also it appears that fiesty experienced a meltdown and had to recover. Michelle has a bunch of good stuff today and yesterday.

Well it's Friday and I've go more work than I can shake a stick at. Project tonight and got to get the little woman another new dryer. Yes that girl can tear up a steel ball with a rubber hammer. My posting will be spotty at best.

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Come on, does that look like a murderer to you? She's 23, hot, and a model. But apparently slowly killing herself through anorexia wasn't good enough for Jeanette Sliwinski. Nope, she decided to commit suicide by crashing her car. Unfortunately, the car Jeanette Sliwinski rammed into had three passengers in it. (hat tip: Spoons)

Doug Meis, John Glick and Michael Dahlquist were musicians and friends, each in a different band [blog coverage of their deaths here]. All of them died. Jeanette lived. How's that for cosmic injustice?

But the Cook County, IL, DA has some plans to bring justice down to earth. Jeanette Sliwinski made her first court appearence Friday for an initial hearng. She is expected to plead not guilty to six counts of first degree murder and two counts of aggrevated battery at her arraignment. [source]

If Jeanette Sliwinski's depression was brought about because she couldn't find a job, she could have called The Jawa Report. We are in desperate need of a hot sleazy model type spokeswoman with few moral qualms and the ability to kill. Of course, we would have sent her to Mosul, Iraq, with instructions to take out Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. See, we give chicks like this purpose.

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1 What a shame. We could have split time with her. I need a sleazy model at my place too.

Posted by: phin at August 08, 2005 12:07 PM (Xvpen)

2 Kill me baby kill meeeeeeeee.

Posted by: Howie at August 08, 2005 12:08 PM (D3+20)

3 Very bizarre, the stuff of TV movies. May the three who died unexpectedly R.I.P.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 12:15 PM (x+5JB)

4 If only she and I could have found each other before the wife, the kids and the petty bourgeoisie life I now lead, I could have made her happy. I wonder what Parish she is registered at ?

Posted by: Brad at August 08, 2005 12:25 PM (3OPZt)

5 Didn't she used to have a blog called Hot Iraqi Blond?

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at August 08, 2005 12:37 PM (BRx5E)

6 No. But maybe we have found the reason Witty Sex Kitten decided to call it quits? Then again, I still don't have a pic to go with Filthy Republican Whore.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 08, 2005 12:40 PM (JQjhA)

7 I'm recommending to the judge that he sentence her to life imprisonment with me. I'll see to it that she doesn't get into anymore trouble. HeHe!

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 08, 2005 01:36 PM (DDXXI)

8 We need to be more understanding with people who look as good as she. I could forgive her. Under the right circumstances.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 08, 2005 09:36 PM (CBNGy)

9 shes actually Polish, and I knew her a long time ago. Its a real tragedy

Posted by: Cathy at August 25, 2005 09:12 AM (hu1Rd)

10 Those three men were friends of mine. Thanks for all of the crappy side jokes. If she wanted to kill herself, she didn't have to take three amazing men with her.

Posted by: Melanie at August 25, 2005 01:27 PM (yj0yO)

11 I have some hot runway and a posed shot of Jeanette when she modeled lingerie at Cicus a year or so ago. I have some earlier shots of her posing in the lounge area. Though clothed she attacted a lot of attention. There was a musical that played at the Royal George theater called " Forever Plaid " where four musicians were killed on their way to a concert but sang from heaven or something like that. As a song writer, check out the lyrics and narration to my CD " Vypsonya " @www.davero.net, I had a song about Jeanette, when she's modeling, that I never finished. It starts out "She's got a figure that you won't forget The perfect Playmate and a Penthouse Pet Guys line the runway cause she makes them m sweat, JEANETTE ". It's kind of a " swing " tune. Dav Ero

Posted by: Dav Ero at August 27, 2005 08:31 PM (o2A1D)

12 Wow. Sounds terrible, Dav Ero. Who cares about your pathetic CD. You and the losers cracking jokes are about as plastic and hollow as Sliwinski.

Posted by: Blinky at September 02, 2005 04:27 AM (Vyort)

13 This is such a pathetic site. Stupid people making stupid jokes about such tragedies. Get a life!

Posted by: M at September 03, 2005 12:50 AM (W7Ntw)

14 I knew one of the three men killed, John Glick. Too bad the stupid bitch has the looks, but obviously lacks the brains to know whether it's right to drive over 70 mph into the back of another car. She fully deserves whatever punishment comes her way. Beauty fades, DUMB is forever.

Posted by: Heidi at September 05, 2005 11:40 AM (6krEN)

15 God will judge her, we don't have to.

Posted by: Agnes at October 27, 2005 11:09 AM (4O5yq)

16 Hey blinky, I thought it was pretty cool that this guy (Dav Ero)remembers her. It actually makes her more real and makes me more sad about the situation & that people are dead. It's another example of how they appear perfect on the outside but have problems like everyone else. He did not crack a joke, he was sharing the most interesting information on this page. You should expect wise crackers on-line anyway. Why rip on some random artist? Rip on the jokers. So grow up and go fuck yourself

Posted by: Justice at November 05, 2005 11:14 AM (LGpOS)

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Larry Johnson frets:

Beyond the tragedy of the deaths of US 16 military personnel, this incident raises some disturbing issues. The ability of the Taliban to communicate with the outside world about activities in a remote area of Afghanistan is equal to if not better than that of the United States. War is not simply engagements on the ground, it also involves information flow. The Taliban are showing a very sophisticated capability in this regard.

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1 Where is Bin Laden? Or should I quote BUSH LIES - "McLaden"?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 08, 2005 10:06 AM (ScqM8)

2 I'm just going to ignore the McMoron above. Wretchard is a very smart man and makes valid points. He has a knack for interpreting military issues in a cogent manner. I never take his ideas lightly as they are well thought out and make sense.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 10:34 AM (fl6E1)

3 Afghanistan Daze, sounds like a breed of marijuana or somethin.

Posted by: tyler at July 08, 2005 10:43 AM (Y9Lwb)

4 Taliban communications should not be a mystery. Satellite telephones have been used in the region for some time. And when you have ISI and Saudi supplied hardware it is not expensive to use either. Let the Taliban keep talking and the NSA keep listening...that's a good thing!

Posted by: NOTR at July 08, 2005 10:53 AM (izx0t)

5 NOTR has a point, the more they talk, the easier they are to find. They have the home field advantage in a hide-and-seek context, and they can easily slip across borders and hide among the locals who are either loyal, sympathetic, or coerced into cooperating, and they have the support of the Saudis, Pakistan, Iran, and others, but we have the technology to watch and listen and then use information gained to strike. The key is to keep terrorist sympathizers like Teddy "The Booze Sponge" Kennedy and his scumbag allies from helping them.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 08, 2005 12:03 PM (0yYS2)

6 I haven't met a lot of SEALs, but from the ones I've met, I don't think it's possible for the Taliban to have captured one "in good health". These guys are VERY well-trained, EXTREMELY disciplined, and know damn well how they'll be treated if captured. They'll fight to the point of incapacitation, if not death. Also, you're right that there wouldn't have been a high-ranking SEAL on a mission of this type--there are too few of those guys around to "waste" them on something like this. Froggy Ruminations has the names of the two deceased SEALs--one of them is a Lieutenant (O-3), who almost certainly was the team leader. The only one unaccounted for (and who thus could possibly be "captured") would be a non-commissioned officer.

Posted by: Jem at July 08, 2005 02:23 PM (wEYaf)

7 i think its all a big fake out by the Taliban...if they had captured a live Navy Seal they would have already have had his death shown on Al-Jazzera on the first day....they are just trying to make the American military upset to the point that it upsets its operations in the area...they wouldnt just keep claiming that they have one, they would have shown it for all to see...trying to keep their courage up and that of their followers is all

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 08, 2005 02:30 PM (QkIQE)

8 They're having trouble finding a convincing looking Navy Seal doll to video for us.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 02:36 PM (fl6E1)

9 "I haven't met a lot of SEALs, but from the ones I've met" if you've met one, thats one too many...they're like spiderman, dude

Posted by: seany boy at July 08, 2005 09:39 PM (7Ct0V)

10 Let's take a look at Mr. Larry Johnson, If I'm right and you guys know better then me and also I don't have the time but I think he was in the Hil(opps!)Clinton time in the so called CIA. Google his name about subjects before 9/11. I think he got 99% of he's stuff wrong in op/ed's in the country's papers. My big guess is that he doesn't have a clue. And I think he's a TeleTubby that what's to get on TV. Anybody can send a email after watching CNN. Boo Hoo! Clown Boy!

Posted by: Sir Mike of New Milford at July 08, 2005 11:54 PM (Og8hE)

11 Sir Mike, adjust the meds and try again please, as I almost had an epiliptic fit trying to read your last post. I'm sure you have something Profound to say, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is. I have to go lie down now, as vertigo has me firmly in its grasp.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 09, 2005 01:45 PM (0yYS2)

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Scotland Yard Commissioner Ian Blair, with Asst. Commissioners Andy Hayman and Peter Clark, is presently (0615 EDT) conducting a press conference broadcast live via the television networks. Salient points made:

- Fatalities number more than 50 with total casualties currently at least 700,

- 350 injured stayed in the hospital overnight, one person died at the hospital,

- There were only four explosions, three in the tubes, one on a bus,

- No evidence found of suicide bomber but can't rule it out,

- Each bomb contained less than 10 pounds of explosives,

- Bomb placement was on the floors of the trains - On the bus, it could have been on the seat,

- Evidence gathering is underway and expected to be time-consuming, review of closed-circuit television footage has commenced.

- The public is asked to call the terrorist hotline (0800-789-321) with any possible information that would help the investigation,

- Although all appearances indicate that al Qaeda may be responsible, London Police have no specific supporting evidence thus far.

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1 You go Mike. I was juswt going to update the count. Big wreck delayed my getting home last night. I fatality and one serious injury. Helicopter the whole bit. Accident involved BIG boat on Semi trailer leaving the boat shattered and blocking the road. Had to take the gravels to get around. But did run into bikini clad girls while making the loop asking directions. Cool. Running a bit behind this AM but made good progress at work last night. Nightime is the right time. I figured you would be on this AM. Thanks for the posts especially yesterday you see all the trackbacks & comments. Awesome!!! I'm off to the office now.

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 08, 2005 06:56 AM (D3+20)

2 Reads like the Qaedas did that crime for a reason. I was pissed - so mad I went for a wasp nest in the barn. Shooting it was out of the question. Instead I got a can of WD40, lit the stream of petroleum and blasted the nest. The wasps came out charbroiled before they could get me!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 08, 2005 09:50 AM (ScqM8)

3 "Although all APPEARENCES indicate that al Qaeda MAY be responsible, London Police have NO SPECIFIC SUPPORTING EVIDENCE thus far." This could be the most acrobatic useage of the English language that I've ever read. It's Big Brother Newspeak if ever I've heard it. But by all means, jump to conclusions. Let's nookularize the thair Aye-Rhabians. Do it for Big Brother. Do it for Israel.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 09:59 AM (0gh4z)

4 Greg - SHUT THE F*** UP! You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut. btw, Mike and Howie, there are witnesses who say it was a suicider on the bus... ...survivors told how they saw a “suicide bomber” on board...

Posted by: Editor at July 08, 2005 10:41 AM (adpJH)

5 Editor, Blow me, you pretentious, pillow biting, goose stepping, closet nazi worshipping, pump fake, transvestite fuck. To the rest of you, Notice that no description of the 'suicide bomber' was provided. Rest assured, had they looked Arabic a description would have been included. This was an inside Psyops job. Booga Booga! Oooooo, scaaaaary!

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 11:12 AM (cjX2O)

6 Don't mind greg, he is just upset he couldn't get early warnings like Netanyahu the other JOOOs. But remember, he gets the advance notice only when it is the Mossad conducting the bombings. Or KKKarl Rove.

Posted by: Wine-aholic at July 08, 2005 11:18 AM (Wsn+K)

7 Greg - bl**ing you might be difficult since your cl*t is constantly in your on mouth... You should stop attempting to lick your own a** and read the article: He said he became suspicious of the olive-skinned man because he looked anxious and was fiddling constantly with his bag.

Posted by: Editor at July 08, 2005 11:18 AM (adpJH)

8 Editor suffers from penis envy. He can't even say the word clit without wigging out. He must have a micropenis like one might see in a neuroedocrinology textbook. 'olive skinned', eh? Well that clinches it, the terrorist was Italian. Case dismissed. Since when do suicide bombers carry bags? They wouldn't, the bomb would be strapped to them in a concealed manner. If one was carrying a bomb in a bag, they would seperate themselves from thing before it expolded. The Brits need to get their story straight. They have spoken of recovering unexpolded bombs with remote control devices and of suicide bombers. If we are to hear fairy tales, let's pick one story or the other.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 11:41 AM (cjX2O)

9 endocrinology

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 11:48 AM (cjX2O)

10 when we find the people who did this only Allah can help them

Posted by: Graeme at July 08, 2005 12:16 PM (ZkJoj)

11 I'm so glad we have a terrorism expert whom can tell us how suicide bombers work, I bet in the whole history of terrorism there has never been a satchal bomb, ever. Thanks for cleverly pointing it out with your expert testimony Greg. we are forever in your debt.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 12:26 PM (fsJ2z)

12 Dave, You pathetic retard. I didn't say satchal bombs don't exist. I said that they aren't used by SUICIDE BOMBERS. The bomber would seperate himself from the satchal before the explosion. Hai capito, cretino?

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 01:54 PM (ifKmS)

13 Greg, I'm sorry being wrong, and rabidly anti-semite seems to be short-circuiting your logic relays, but you're incorrect AGAIN: "1994 October 19th. - Israel, Tel Aviv, Dizengoff Street, Bus No.5: A hamas suicide bomber, holding a bag containing 44lbs of explosives blew himself up inside the bus, 22 people were killed and 46 injured. " "2003 September 9th. - Israel, Tzrifin army base, near Rishon Lezion: a suicide bomber wearing civilian clothes and carrying a leather bag containing a 3 - 4 kilogram bomb got out of a car at the bus stop and blew himself up around 5:40 p.m. at a hitchhiking post for soldiers outside a main entrance to military base and Assaf Harofeh Hospital. The assailant was a member of Hamas from the village of Rantis in the West Bank and studied at the Bir Zeit University in Ramallah; 8 Israeli soldiers died, and more than 30 people were injured." Less of course those Evil Jews® are lying again?

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 02:02 PM (fsJ2z)

14 Well Dave, Which is correct, suicide bombers or remote control devices? I've heard both stories. Let's get the story straight. It will be easier to sell one lie than two.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 02:13 PM (nPBFW)

15 Greg: One has to wonder where you get your knowledge of explosives from, from your description it sounds like your source is Yosemite Sam and Bugs Bunny cartoons, perhaps you can explain to everyone the difference between a bomb placed under a seat vs. a bag underneath a suicide bomber vs. bomb placed on suicide bombers lap vs. bomb placed on a seat? As stated above there are instances of suicide bombers placing explosives in bags and exploding them -- care to refute?

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 02:13 PM (fsJ2z)

16 Graeme "when we find the people who did this only Allah can help them" But he won't. I think its fair to say that slaughtering his creations might not be the best way to get on his good side.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 08, 2005 02:16 PM (jPCiN)

17 i thought i had seen some stupid, assinine people in my life but greg takes the cake....trying to make up facts that he pretends he knows about how terrorists work....how would you know that greg???...are you a terrorist in waiting???....you in the know???...or are you just some dumb ass rich kid loser who got some liberaltard education and didnt pay any atention in class cause you were too busy picking youre nose???...you sure have some hatred for Jewish people, dont ya???....i know, maybe youre a KKK member, thats the ticket!!!....you know, i had wished you a safe vaction while you were in Italy, but im taking that civilized wish back.....seems that since youre in Italy and from what ive read on another site that some sick Islamicfuckers have said that they plan to bomb Rome next, maybe youll get an up close, in youre face, look at some of youre Muslim buddies in action...better stay away from the buses greg....wait never mind that, get on the bus and sit in the back with one of them sweaty ,nervous ,backwards, Islamic goons , try and strike up a nice talk and let us know how it went, that is if you get back to us at all....no, i wont be nice, ive had enough with drug addicts like you greg....stop watching Conspiracy Theory over and over again and get a fucking life....oh and stay away from that crack pipe too, youll live longer, braindead waste of a human life

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 08, 2005 02:19 PM (QkIQE)

18 greg, use your fucking pea brain. If the Brits are bombing themselves, they would obviously plant clues to point at AQ. The fact that they have suspects without being totally sure is PROOF that you're a fucking twit.

Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 02:23 PM (8e/V4)

19 I don't know why you guys bother with Greg anymore. I think everyone else here has easily grasped what's been figured out so far and is able to make sense of it too. But not Greg. No. So far, nothing points to the Jews or Bush so until one of his pals like Alex Jones comes up with a conspiracy which includes at least one of them, Greg will continue to babble incoherently. After that he'll, well ... continue to babble incoherently.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 03:16 PM (fl6E1)

20 Dave, I'll give you one last chance to answer a simple question. I've heard two stories. One story says that the bombs were detonated remotely. The other story claims that suicide bombers were used. Which story is correct? I truly don't know how I can be any more clear with you. If you can't understand this straight forward question, I won't waste any more time on you.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 03:50 PM (xcNPe)

21 Thanos34:"i thought i had seen some stupid, assinine people in my life" Thanos, Allow me to give you a little bit of advice. When you want to tell someone that they are stupid, be sure to check your spelling. The word is spelled 'asinine', and only a stupid ass would use the word against someone without spelling it correctly. Furthermore, you haven't 'seen' me. You have read things that I have written. You are poorly educated and I feel your shame.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:06 PM (xcNPe)

22 Greg: Here in the real world, we have these things called forensic investigations, these are used to determine the evidence in a crime, and these ultimately point to the perpertrator, these unlike m00nbat propaganda take longer than 48 hours. I will wait for the published proof from the bus before judging the nature of the bomb. I am sure you might be unfamiliar with the word proof, so here is it's definition: proof n 1: any factual evidence that helps to establish the truth of something; "if you have any proof for what you say, now is the time to produce it" [syn: cogent evidence] I never argued to the nature of if a suicide bomber existed, I just pointed to the fact you're a bacofoil wrapped, conspiracy nut who grasps the very first "conspiracy story" in the wind, and posts it, then make up the facts around that story (e.g that suicide bombers never carry bags!) I think if you look back, I never said that the bomb was detonated by remote or by hand, I just said you were an idiot.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 04:08 PM (fsJ2z)

23 Dave:'I'm sorry being wrong, and rabidly anti-semite seems to be short-circuiting your logic relays,' Dave, It would have been proper for you to have used the adjective, 'anti-Semitic'. Apparently, English is a second language for you and Thanos.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:11 PM (xcNPe)

24 Carlos:"If the Brits are bombing themselves, they would obviously plant clues to point at AQ." Carlos, There's no need to fabricate evidence against AQ, since simpletons like yourself will arrive at that conclusion in the absence of any evidence.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:16 PM (xcNPe)

25 Greg: I'm sorry your arguments have now slipped to the level of correcting both grammer and spelling, it must be awful being you, living with a twisted perspective of the real world and having to continually defend your moonbat opinions. On a brighter note, you could always slip back to your fantasy of a Clinton being back in the Whitehouse and tug on your tranny cock for a couple of hours.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 04:19 PM (fsJ2z)

26 Oyster, Shuck you!

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:19 PM (xcNPe)

27 Dave, I guess you couldn't answer my question despite its simplicity. FYI, I detest both major parties. And why should I tug on my own cock when your mother and father are available?

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:23 PM (xcNPe)

28 Is there no one else? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE? Brad Pitt, 'Troy'.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:26 PM (xcNPe)

29 Greg: Well see here we go again! Your lack of comprehension of what I said is almost amusing. You criticize others for jumping to an opinion: since simpletons like yourself will arrive at that conclusion in the absence of any evidence. Then you criticize me for not jumping to a conclusion when I said I would wait for the evidence -- irony? I don't think you will even find where I even said Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks, because I await the evidence behind that also. It didn't however stop you from preemptively linking Israel to the crime, without evidence though did it? nor did it stop you from pointing to yet another conspiracy theory. sad.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 04:31 PM (fsJ2z)

30 Dave:'sad'. There, there, Dave. Cheer up. And now, I must bid you farewell.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:41 PM (xcNPe)

31 Greg: looks like you won't have a problem tripping over your tail, it's tucked squarely between your legs!

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 04:44 PM (fsJ2z)

32 Greg I am completely offended that you think we did this to ourselves surely I am reading you wrong! This attck on us was small in comparison to what happened to yourselves over there but please do not demean what has happened. I know our goverment, as much as I dont always agree with them, would never do this. Also the point you are making about the controlled explosions is just that. These suspicious packages were carefully detonated whether by remote control (which personally i think would be best) or manually, why does it matter? As long as no other person was hurted in the process.

Posted by: Sparky at July 08, 2005 06:20 PM (F1nba)

33 Oops Hurt

Posted by: sparky at July 08, 2005 06:58 PM (F1nba)

34 Greg, you ignorant slut. They SAID that there were indications that SOME of the bombs were detonated remotely and at least one WASN'T. What part of that don't you freaking understand? There were also two bombs that possibly malfunctioned and didn't go off. One was so unstable it was purposely detonated under controlled circumstances and the other not. This is what we've heard so far. Until later, that's all we know. We aren't there and we aren't part of the forensics team. Unless you are there and investigating yourself - then quit the crap. Good Lord, you're dense.

Posted by: Oyster at July 08, 2005 09:24 PM (YudAC)

35 Guys, we've been trying with greg for a while now, and he's even been banned and let return, but he's just a mouth-breathing moron who has a paranoid delusion about Joooooos and apparently believes that they are responsible for everything from skin cancer to bread mold. he is clearly a sociopath and probably has a pretty disturbing collection of bondage porn and beheading videos. Let's stop wasting our time and just ignore him as anything he produces is "...as a speech made by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 09, 2005 01:55 PM (0yYS2)

36 Gee Guys: You mean someone besides me doesn't agree with traitor Greg. STRING HIM UP!

Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 11:47 PM (CBNGy)

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Here's a sampling of what others are saying.

The al Qaeda link to the bombings is called phony according to Aljazeera.com:

A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe" posted a statement on an internet site, claiming responsibility for the deadly attacks that hit London on Thursday.

But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes said that the statement in which the group claimed responsibility for the attacks contained an error in one of the Qura'nic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim is phony, he said.

"This is not something Al Qaeda would do," he said.

"Condemnation with scant information will only aid the leaders of the West who want to use fear as a tool as well as allow them to arrest more Muslims unjustly under draconian terror laws," it said in a statement on Thursday.

"Yes, the rules of Islam do not allow the harming of innocent civilians, but at the same time the rules of Islam do not allow us to condemn Muslims with little evidence in order to remove the pressure from ourselves."

The organisation criticised the Group of Eight leaders meeting in Gleneagles, Scotland.

"The world's leaders congregating at the G8 summit in Gleneagles have quickly taken the opportunity to further their rhetoric to justify their 'war on terror'," the statement said.

What the murderers yesterday in London and Iraq seem not to understand is that their cowardly and barbarous attacks produce only profound anger and contempt, not despair and fear. Their bombs destroy not only innocent lives but any possible claim they have to be taken as anything other than bloodstained criminals.

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Late night for me. Though I'd get a post started.

Here is a link to eyewitness accounts from the BBC. There is some good first hand accounts of what happened. Pictures, videos and interviews too.

I see at the present time the BBC still has 37 or 38 dead 700 wounded. It will probably rise maybe a bit more.

Also the BBC has a link to staff reporter updates that looks frequently updated.

"Emergency services are continuing to help the injured after several explosions on the London Underground Tube network this morning, and on a bus in central London. BBC News correspondents are on the ground with the latest details."

Another new BBC link 10:00 at 4am in UK CDT.

ABCNEWS has update that says timing devices or parts thereof have been found.

As I listened to reports and comments from England today I was struck by the “stiff upper lip”. Old women, men, women just chatting away like the air hadn’t just been sucked right out of that Olympic bid.

And on a theme from comments from an earlier thread.

May God save the Queen!!!!

Really try out those BBC links they get up way earlier than we do and IÂ’m sure England will be humming right along. IÂ’ll check back at about 5:00 am CDT and see what is happening. Things look pretty quiet for the moment. The recovery and investigation seems well underway.

I am missing Rusty arenÂ’t you guys? Guest posters welcome.

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In the comment section of a previous post GeoBandy chides:

I think, based on the information available, you may be overestimating the sophistication level required [for the London transit attacks].

It might be more appropriate to say that the method I'm using to account "sophistication" may not be 100% valid. I readily admit that, and it is a concern. But then no method of accounting an abstract idea like "sophistication" is 100% valid. The issue is what do we mean by the term, and why is it of interest to us? We use empirical measures to account for a quality that is far more complex than the method or test used not because we need 100% validity, but because we want enough validity to get a handle on the situation. So the appropriate question might be, "is my method valid enough?" more...

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Well I don't really want to update Mike Pechar's post so I will start one of my own. I will add a few links below to a couple other stories going on today. Also below the break I will post various quotes and comments I have collected up so far today. I may update this thread later and Mike if you feel the need update your post as well.

The Taliban claims it is holding the last missing Navy Seal. While I hope he is safe and will return it appears doubtfull at this time. Let's keep him and his family in our prayers. One look at the news this AM and you see what is likely to happen.

Orange alert for Mass Transit in USA.

The latest death toll in London Ranges from 33 to 40 killed 390 to 1000 injured. I have several links I have been watching today I will list them below the break along with quotes and stuff. I just want to say my heart goes out to London and all of Britain. Mike Pechar's thread below seems to be getting a lot of comments. I noticed Mike stopped updating that one and moved on. So where ever you would like to put yours go ahead.

UPDATED:

NPR just reported that Egypt has confirmed the death of it's top diplomat in Iraq.

Also ABCNEWS is reporting two unexploded bombs were found in London.

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

"ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED BRITISH OFFICIALS TOLD U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY RECOVERED TWO UNEXPLODED BOMBS IN LONDON

http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396"

From a breaking news email I recieved

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al-Qaida claiming Egyptian Envoy to Iraq has been executed.

al- Qaida said in a Web statement Thursday that it has killed Egypt's top envoy in Iraq, posting a video of the blindfolded diplomat identifying himself.

"We announce in the al-Qaida in Iraq that the verdict of God against the ambassador of the infidels, the ambassador of Egypt, has been carried out. Thank God," a written statement in the Web posting said.

The video does not show him being executed. Instead, it shows a man who appears to be the diplomat, Ihab al-Sherif, blindfolded and wearing a polo shirt.

The murderous rampage continues.

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As I write this there's some confusion about whether there were four, or up to seven separate attacks on the London mass transit system. Early reports were confused by the fact that some explosions took place between metro stops and generated reports of attacks at the stops on either end. But it's not clear whether the current high estimate of seven was influenced by this misjudgment. Some sources are still saying only four attacks. more...

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[Post Summary 1900 EDT] Reporting on today's explosions started around 0500 EDT at IP with updates through 0900, all reflected below. After that time, reports on the Internet and in the world's media ballooned into dissonance. Consequently, this post conveys the initial confusion, the speculation, and some false reports generated during the initial hours after the explosions.

At this time, 37 people have been confirmed as fatalities and 700 were injured from four separate bombings, three in the London Underground and one suicide bomber on a double-decker bus.

Prime Minister Tony Blair has spoken to and for the British people and the G8 world leaders in condemning the attacks while voicing a resolve not to be swayed by terrorism.

Every other conceivable aspect of the story is being vigorously pursued by the media and the blogosphere, with many sources linked to this post. Accordingly, I have no reason to continue updating this entry. It's more appropriate to investigate and report the multitude of eventualities and ramifications of the attacks in separate posts.

Update (Chad):
While Rusty is away, he gave me the keys to update important stories and clearly the London story is huge by all means. Unfortunately I do not have the time to cross-post every updated entry at The Jawa Report. You may view the updates here.

Also The Templar Pundit has some keen insight into the terror attack and ABC News is now reporting there were two unexploded bombs found nearby the other attacks.

Breaking news from the BBC:

Several people have been injured after explosions blamed on a power surge led to the whole London Underground network being closed down.

British Transport Police said some of the power surges had caused explosions.

Surges took place at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.

A spokesman said there were "walking wounded" at Liverpool Street station but one person's life was reported to be "at risk."

[Update 0630 EDT]

From the BBC:

A police spokesman said there were "quite a large number of casualties" at Aldgate Tube Station.

And Scotland Yard confirmed one of several reports of explosions on buses in the city - in Tavistock Place - but said the cause was not yet known.

One caller to BBC Five said his friend had seen "the bus ripped open like a can of sardines and bodies everywhere."

Number 10 said it was "still unsure" whether the explosions were a terrorist attack and although casualties were reported, no further details were yet available.

From the Guardian Unlimited:

Many people were hurt today in a "major incident" on London transport as suspected terrorist attacks caused multiple explosions on tube trains and buses and plunged London's transport network into chaos.

Several eyewitnesses reported that a bus had been ripped apart by a bomb near Russell Square. Police confirmed the explosion. Union officials said they had received reports of two more bus explosions, but details were not immediately available. All London hospitals are on major incident alert.

Laura Matthews, a press officer at Universities UK, with offices in Tavistock Square, said there were bodies lying around the bus explosion, some without arms or legs. "Get people down here quickly," she sobbed. She thought a bomb had gone off and was trying to evacuate her office.

In all incidents of this type, terrorism is suspected, however, there's no indication so far. The subway and the bus explosions are being reported as coincidental. I don't believe coincidental explosions occur.

[Update 0730 EDT]

From various sources:

In a quick press announcement at 7am, PM Tony Blair calls for calm and vows to defeat those that committed the "barbaric" terrorist acts. Blair will leave the G8 Summit and travel to London.

The BBC has reported from Arab sources that the explosions were likely the work of al-Qaeda.

All public transportation in and around London has been suspended.

Rescue operations are underway in six locations.

There is an unconfirmed report that Scotland Yard received a warning before the explosions. It's probably false.

At least 100 people (unconfirmed) are injured. Royal London Hospital reports 95 injured, 1 fatality.

A suspicious package believed to be an unexploded device has been found. Also, London police said traces of explosive have been found at one site.

An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.

[Update 0900 EDT]

From Sky News:

A terror group linked to al Qaeda says it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured.

A previously unknown group calling itself "Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe" said it carried out the attacks as revenge for British "military massacres" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Two London hospitals have reported a total of 185 wounded after a series of blasts hit locations across the city on buses and Tube stations.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said there was evidence of explosives at at least two of the six sites.

Scotland Yard reports that seven explosions occurred and there was no prior warning. Government officials have closed the underground system for the day. Currently, the only vehicles operating in London are cars, taxis, and bicycles.

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1 All those cursed Qaedas Bush trained over there in Iraq are now wreaking havoc.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:07 AM (ScqM8)

2 We are British, no-one intimidates us. We are not Spanish, we will not change our government, we will not pull out of Iraq, we will stay the course. 30 years of vicious terrorism from the Irish didn't stop us and neither will Islamic extremists.

Posted by: k at July 07, 2005 06:23 AM (PM/BC)

3 Get these sick asian twats out of Britain NOW

Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 06:26 AM (KF1fi)

4 K, Blair and Bush stirred the goddamned Qaedas and then they attacked - wake up!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:27 AM (ScqM8)

5 Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated.

Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 06:42 AM (PM/BC)

6 Wow I woke up at 5:00 this morning and it was so quiet. Decided to sleep till 6:00. Woke up to a statement by Tony Blair. Britain is taking it on the chin for Supporting us. Also ABCNEW reports that some terrorist websites are claiming responsability. Thanks Mike for getting this up for us. Feel free to update as you see fit. I'll drive on in to work. I thought Mr. Blair's statement was good. He seems particularly upset and I can see why. Here is a pretty good quote from his statement. I'll be back online about 8:00 cdt. "Whatever they do it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and other civilized nations throughout the world," Blair said. My thoughts go out to our good friend. News indicates terroist statments threaten Denmark and other countries if they don't pull out. So see you guys later. I'm severly bankwidth challenged right now and have lot's to do so Mike have at it. I will have some time to help if you need it. Drop me an email if you like.

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 07, 2005 06:44 AM (D3+20)

7 It'll be very interesting to see how the majority of Brits react to this considering the amount of dissention over there. You also have to wonder when they'll get back to the States.

Posted by: elliott at July 07, 2005 06:57 AM (XlQVK)

8 The number of expolsions have been downgraded from 6 to 4. The number of deaths have been upgraded from 2 to in the 'double digits' with a least 100 unjuries. Attacks occured against both the bus system and the metro. Both have been shut down. It is unclear whether the bombs were detonated remotely or by suicide bombers.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 07:02 AM (vO/b3)

9 Elliott, When the dust settles you will see how the British people reacts.

Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 07:12 AM (KF1fi)

10 I often wondered how long it would take for the terrorists to strike somewhere else besides the airlines...remember Spain a while back? It will be interesting to see how this affects other mass transit systems around the world. I wonder what it's going to do to London now? Is everyone going to stand still and be afraid to take the transit system now? It's only a matter of time before they strike here again. This is devastating news to transit systems worldwide and it will definitely have a domino effect...the economy's going to suck from the losses of people not taking the trains or buses anymore.

Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 07:17 AM (L3PPO)

11 London's Mayor Livingston just spoke. His message to the terrorists was profound. "You will fail." And just like DSM to blame everyone except those who commit this and other acts of terrorism.

Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 07:48 AM (YudAC)

12 Hello, This is interesting. Is the IRA (or similar group)? Is it an Iraq War-related thing? I noticed a poster called "K" wrote: "Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated." Judging from what DSM wrote, "appeaser" doesn't appear accurate. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to suggest DSM is a Muslim (not that this should affect review of poster's content. Note: Suggestion of same would be fallacious). Thank you for your time.

Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:00 AM (hvJmm)

13 Well it did't take long for the bastards to attack us on our soil, maybe we will now realise the pain america went through, and get together and blast these fuckers back alla

Posted by: BUNKER at July 07, 2005 08:03 AM (y/P3u)

14 Rusty, any word on American Muslim reactions here at home to the bombings -- i.e. in Muslim neighborhoods here, in U.S. madrassas and mosques, even in U.S. government offices? What are they saying/doing? I'm thinking of the "celebrating" on 9/11 in some quarters.

Posted by: jordan at July 07, 2005 08:04 AM (7y04D)

15 I can't decide if DSM is a terminal contrarian or just a bloody idiot.

Posted by: traderrob at July 07, 2005 08:10 AM (3al54)

16 I'm back online.

Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:17 AM (D3+20)

17 On NPR this am the British parlament minority leader was on. He heads their security commitee. He confirmed at least six and possibly seven expolosions.

Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:25 AM (D3+20)

18 uh that's explosions.

Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:30 AM (D3+20)

19 DSM Listen you Quisling...realists and students of history KNOW that even if every American/Brit troop left both Afghanistan and Iraq TODAY the Islamists would do nothing more than ESCALATE their attacks. Because their ideology towards the kaffir is "convert, submit, or die" and their goal is a Worldwide Caliphate with every one under Sharia. People like you should be under surveillance.

Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:45 AM (FgfaV)

20 Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror. No one intimidates us. Since 9/11 we have expected this and were able to plan for such an act of terrorism as best as any country can. As we British stood "shoulder to shoulder" with America during 9/11, I know that the vast majority of Americans will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with us. The terrorists anger towards us, pales into insignificance with our determination to beat them. And we will. America, watch and witness the amazing courage, determination, calmness and controlled response of British people in the face of vicious terrorism.

Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 08:49 AM (PM/BC)

21 K I'm in CA and woke up to this story only an hour ago. Hang in there. You know a majority of Americans will stand with you against the Islamo-fascists and their apologists.

Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:50 AM (FgfaV)

22 My heart goes out to the victims of this vicious cowardly attack. I pray that those lost are at peace, and that those affected most directly by this will have their creator close at hand. I also pray that vengeance for this craven act is swift and devastating to those that continue to make the death of innocents their primary purpose. I also hope this leads to the downfall of another tyrant who would gladly support this type of activity. Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia come quickly to mind.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 09:03 AM (jPCiN)

23 A despicable and cowardly act. I suppose it was only a matter of time before another attack, but it's still saddening to see.

Posted by: Venom at July 07, 2005 09:04 AM (dbxVM)

24 Britain, know this: We here in the USA have your back. ..and woe betide the animals who perpetrated this atrocity. The bile rises in my throat at people who could even contemplate such attacks. They picked the wrong target> Despite the Galloways of the world, this is still the Britain of WInston Churchill and MArgret Thatcher. THere is a core of iron in the British people that I think that Al- Quaeda will regret stirring. I don't live in AUstralia, but I am sure I speak for them as well. As for the rest of Europe. . wake the hell up. What in thae name of god makes you think that you won't be next? Paris? You think you are safe? Germany? You know very well its only a matter of time before you are hit, and the question becomes this - are you going to roll over and expowse your soft yellow underbelly or actually grow a spine?

Posted by: RYan MUrphy at July 07, 2005 09:09 AM (UF8Bd)

25 K: We're with you.

Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:10 AM (fl6E1)

26 THis column was shortly after 9-11. Still, I think most of its content applies to the British just as well as Americans http://www.celebratelove.com/lpitts.htm

Posted by: RYan Murphy at July 07, 2005 09:17 AM (UF8Bd)

27 "People like you should be under surveillance." How about six feet "under"?

Posted by: Kevin at July 07, 2005 09:25 AM (pfvPv)

28 I think this fits the Brits here and now: "When you get to the end of your life, would you exchange one moment from this day to that for one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that you may take our lives but you can never take our freedom." from Braveheart We are in this WITH you just as you backed us in our moment of hell. There just ain't no understanding the rage of the lions when they are attacked - and yet, the 'monsters of terrorism' is pushing the envelop again. I wonder now, if their stomachs won't be churning more acid in fear when they see the flags of the Brits and Yanks raised highers and side by side coming at them. If they aren't, the cowards of terrorism are in for more surprises. Prayers are with you Brits. We won't forget.

Posted by: Dale P at July 07, 2005 09:42 AM (WYvOv)

29 Ryan: That letter from Leonard Pitts was spot on. I remember reading it right after 9/11, but it still rings true and it still elicits the emotion we felt then and feel now.

Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:50 AM (fl6E1)

30 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/free.uk.talk.london/msg/7708d079750e5740?hl=en

Posted by: pikkio at July 07, 2005 10:02 AM (6eXCj)

31 Hello Dale P, You write something from the movie Braveheart and presumably connect it to today's unfortunate event. This strikes me as odd. William Wallace took up arms against the English king Edward I. I don't think the parallel works well, unless maybe you are rooting for those who did the bombing against English people today. You see, the English were invaders of the Scottish kingdom and the Wallace fought a guerrilla war against the English in England in response to foreign invasion and occupation. Your historical analogy would work better (as stated prior) if you were a booster for the bomber fellows. Thanks for your time.

Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 10:20 AM (hvJmm)

32 The next stop of the Circus of Terror will be here, in Italy. I'm sure of this; Polony is not an interesting target and it havn't many muslims.

Posted by: Mirco at July 07, 2005 10:36 AM (76BwD)

33 I've been reading some Euro blogs, and as I suspected, there are many, many people blaming America, but so far I haven't read one comment by someone who blames the islamoscum. Liberals are such morons. Well, I say that if they're not any smarter than that, they will get more of the same, and I hope they enjoy their dhimmitude.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 10:39 AM (0yYS2)

34 Latest news here is the UK is 45 dead and 1000 injured one way or another.Also rumours of a bomber being shot dead in Docklands (East London) and of Israeli embassy being warned minutes before first explosion but police denying all knowledge. Its an appalling day, but how can you completely protect against such lunacy? I pity the perpetrators - hatred doesn't really fix anything but I can understand those who feel it.......saddest thing is Mr Blair and Mr Bush probably see this as "acceptable civilian collateral damage".... Pray for us.

Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 10:40 AM (4q6Ab)

35 I will pray especially hard for you Paully. I will pray that you can understand that to pity the perpetrators and make a claim that Bush and Blair find this acceptable is the thinking of one who has already surrendered.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:03 AM (jPCiN)

36 DEFENCE GUY - your arrogance is what makes the US such a globally despised country. Being english and being eminently reasonable I was politely avoiding the issue that, if Bush and his bumboy Blair hadn't fabricated the evidence they needed to start a war against "terrorism" and the apparently world-threatening Mr Hussein, these people wouldn't be dead at all. I hope you weren't one of those who voted him into power.....sleep tight.

Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 11:24 AM (4q6Ab)

37 No, actually. What makes us despised is our power, plain and simple. There was nothing polite about your initial post, so drop the English gentleman pose. As far as fabricating evidence, it might interest you to know that every single Western intelligence service thought that Hussein had weapons.

Posted by: Shralp at July 07, 2005 11:35 AM (1hRqD)

38 Yes Paully, because before we went into Iraq, these terrorists never did a damn thing to anybody. That you put terrorism into scare quotes as if it is imaginary says a lot about you and your thinking. By the way asshole, you didn't avoid the subject which is why I called you on it.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:37 AM (jPCiN)

39 >>>"Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror." You Brits are among the toughest most resilient people the world has ever produced. But I wonder if even you have not been corrupted by the Leftism that has descended over the West like a malodorous cloud. Has it sapped your will to fight? Will you now try to "understand" your enemy? We shall find out in the next few days if you're any better than the Spaniards.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 11:38 AM (tFXpR)

40 'An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.' Absolutely Bogus! While the Italians may hold Bush, Blair and our War in Iraq in contempt, they have nothing but the greatest admiration for the American, and by extension, the British people. That's a fact that you can bank on.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 11:51 AM (Q+rdl)

41 It is Ironic that the ex Mayor of New York Rudi Giuliani was having his breakfast next door to Liverpool St Station the same time as the first bomb blast went off this morning. He said "The terrorist who commited this callous attack will be brought to justice"

Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (KF1fi)

42 Seamus: You're obviously from the other side of the fence to nitpick in this fashion. Dale P simply re-iterated a quote which can be used universally regardless from whence it came. Shralp: Well put. It's Paully's type that keeps giving these terrorists the moral support they need. Way to go, Paully. You've had nearly 4 years to come to the right conclusion. Time's running out. Even so - I pray that you and your loved ones are spared.

Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (fl6E1)

43 Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back. From this side of the pond, it looks like these Islamofascists are invading Britain, having had great success in France, Germany and the Netherlands. I'm really, really in Britain's corner on this one. They need to stop the public incitement to this sort of thing that's been allowed for way, way too long.

Posted by: Dan at July 07, 2005 12:37 PM (XYoed)

44 From an American with a heavy heart today, I send you my deepest sympathies and condolences to the great people of the UK. You are in my prayers. I thank you for supporting America in her time of need and I will encourage my countrymen to return the favor and support the UK in her time of need. The downing street memo is a terrible truth, but make no mistake, this war between radical Islam and free societies that value tolerance and liberty would have occurred even if G. Dubya Bush had never invaded Iraq. Stand as One, courageous in defense of freedom. -kk

Posted by: kk at July 07, 2005 12:57 PM (scces)

45 I often wonder how people manage to so completely make themselves blind to the obvious. Islam is a very large elephant in a very small room, and everytime it knocks something over, some people still refuse to even take notice. Islam is anathema to civilization, and no amount of mewling platitudes will change that. You can't appease a mad dog, you can only kill it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 02:00 PM (0yYS2)

46 Improbulus Maximus....Please stop using big words like marmalade to make yourself look intelligent....Just say what you mean "Kill the murdering BASTARDS"

Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 02:08 PM (KF1fi)

47 Hi, I´m Louis from Argentina, I truly feel sorry for what has happened, you may find this hard to believe, but I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind, just like any other free place. Watching all those desperate people suffering for their loved ones hurt, even not knowing them. No simple human being should be suffering for the decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins) But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes. feel free to send your comments, CHEWACCA@GMAIL.COM your opinion will help me open my mind even more and maybe make friends and not war. I love you all who make peace and love and not a blood bath.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:12 PM (WWEQ3)

48 "In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to the Party propaganda. Once when he happened to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs that fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'. This was an idea that literally had not occurred to him." Eric Arthur Blair, AKA George Orwell, '1984' Remember, it's fiction, pure fiction. Gosh! Golly! That Orwell, what a moonbat! Tinfall! Tinfall! Gitcher tinfall rot hair!

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:14 PM (PnMkz)

49 >>> "I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind," Luis, I knew the instant I read this touchy feely hogwash platitude that it would soon be followed by a dig at Bush. But the rest of your post made some sense.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:19 PM (tFXpR)

50 Carlos: Is it possible we aren't the only idiots around? YBP (Fellow idiot)

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:21 PM (x+5JB)

51 I have no problem with bush or the american people with who I lived with when I was in new york for about 10 years of my life, thanks for your comment Carlos, anyway you have to accept that not everyone will think as you. That´s why the system has tought you well. It would be nicer if people were more humble and really cared for life and not limits. There is something that will really destroy us all and is not terrorism. It´s massive resource exploit. Once the earth says no more, we will crack apart and you never know when that is going to be, earth does not warn in the newspapers unfortunately Carlos. Louis

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:28 PM (WWEQ3)

52 "But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said. "This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said."

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:31 PM (PnMkz)

53 Our thoughts and prayers from America are with you. May God bless Londontown and all it's fine people. God Save The Queen.

Posted by: Jim in Boston at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (H1wS0)

54 And that is something every single one of us forgets.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (WWEQ3)

55 No simple human being should be suffering for the decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins) Well, I see Louis is ready to embrace Dhimitude. Why Louis? Got a problem with females so you want them covered up and shackled to the home? Yearning for 4 wives? Looking forward to strapping bombs on your body and blowing up a few infidels and Jews and "earning" yourself 72 virgins? WHO THE HELL do you think bombed the WTC in 1993? Jaysus on a Pony, Western Civilization is under direct attack and you blame the USA/England! Do us all a favor and drown yourself, you immoral appeaser.

Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 02:34 PM (FgfaV)

56 God save the Queen? What did the Queen give you? She along with 4 or 5 more morons rule our world with us like puppets from their tight strings, go to africa and see the childrens eye balls being rubbed by flies, while the Queen receives a call from her group of British Petroleum confirming the sales profit. I think the Queen has had too much of a good time already. She never left her palace, and looks like she lived in a criogenic state. Nothing seems to stop her from making money out of all of us. So let´s better save the earth which is the one renting you the space where you live. Louis

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:41 PM (WWEQ3)

57 Regardless of Louis' stance on the war, he does not advocate the murder of civilians. He is not a terrorist. He has the right to speak up and voice his thoughts along with anyone else here, no?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:44 PM (x+5JB)

58 Louis The terrorist who commits the type of act seen today could not give even one shit about the state of 'mother earth', and if they have their way you won't be allowed to either. Keep that in mind when prioritizing.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (jPCiN)

59 Thanks ybp, for understanding that i´m not a terrorist, i want us all to see good news everyday not wake up between crap of few.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (WWEQ3)

60 YBP: yeah but he could have stopped at his support for those who died and left the debate on money and greed for another day. But it's easy to get baited into changing the subject. Myself I think we should mainly express our support for out ally here.

Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 02:49 PM (D3+20)

61 Loius is right about the queen. She's a whore. Why should we give a shit about her, after all we rebelled from the lineage of her monarchy. I never understood America's fascination with the bitch. Piss on her and her inbred brood.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:50 PM (PnMkz)

62 Louis, the Queen of England didn't cause poverty in Africa. Africans have been poor and miserable since they learned to walk on two feet. British colonialism actually raised their standard of living, and they've been going dowhill ever since they gained independence.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:51 PM (tFXpR)

63 I agree with you defence guy as I have posted before "But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes." >I guess that reflects the idea, which is similar to what you say, we may not be so different after all, if there is some life in all your hearts, i´m not here to make you guys upset, i´m here to exchange ideas, but for some of you´s it makes me feel like if you had a nuke right now, you would start the 3rd ww on the ones who don´t agree, and that would be walking backwards instead of advancing and learning from errors, MAN is the only animal stumblling with the same stone twice.....

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:52 PM (WWEQ3)

64 Gee, Greg, how do you really feel? You want to wear a dainty little crown, too--ADMIT IT! (Kidding.) Howie: Agreed. We must be with the British all the way. The National Front certainly has some new ammo after today.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:53 PM (x+5JB)

65 Louis is alright.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:55 PM (x+5JB)

66 Hey!! Louis, I totally agree with you. The Queen is nothing more than an old fat ass with a totally invented position in the UK society.

Posted by: Belu at July 07, 2005 02:58 PM (WWEQ3)

67 Carlos have you got anything against blacks? Your destiny was fine being born maybe in the Uk, If destiny was differnt for you, you could have been born there too, As per your name you sound more like a latin trying to look like british. Carlos? where did you get that name from? If you were british, you should be called Michael or George, or Edward but calos sounds from Colombia.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:59 PM (WWEQ3)

68 Louis, behave before I take back what I said.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:01 PM (x+5JB)

69 I understand Louis point and stand by his side all the way. It seems like patriotism is all together over rated and western people is ready to act as fanatic as eastern people. The only difference is that one defend a religiuos point of view and the other defend basically MONEY. And the Queen is a senile, bitch who doesn´t give a damn about other people.

Posted by: Martin at July 07, 2005 03:02 PM (WWEQ3)

70 What, has the world become full of Johnny Rottons? God Save the Queen.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:05 PM (x+5JB)

71 Loius, Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America. It is so strong that he hates his own people. What could be more sad than that?

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:07 PM (PnMkz)

72 greg, Yeah, and your hate is such that you hate your own country, pot -> kettle.

Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:09 PM (fsJ2z)

73 Greg, have another iced cappuccino and chill. What did Carlos say that was racist?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (x+5JB)

74 Last contact from me, I am right now leaving home from work, Again my deepest feelings with innocent simple people, families and friends of the victims, but not with the supporters of a world resource proliferation. One last thing I am positive about, Bush is an old friend of Bin, never worndered why Bin was never caught? Bacause they are bloody friends. 2 hours before 9/11 Bush already knew about the flights, as he supported all the planning of such attacks, also backed up by the israeli. Finally they blame it on Alqaeda, which only rented the suicide hijackers. Think with the 2mb of ram you still got, you string pulled puppet army for the Queen. Long live peace tolerance and love, that´s all you will get to take when you take your last trip.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (WWEQ3)

75 Louis Who the hell would I nuke? No, I have no problem with people who have a dissenting opinion, but I have a major problem with those who would use violence as an form of political speech. I have a problem with those that would excuse it as acceptable, or who would turn the blame from the criminals to the victims. I also have a problem with those that think it is just fine that the opression of man continues, so long as it doesn't happen here. I would caution that if the terrorists do use nukes, we will be obliged to follow suit. It may be the simple fear that we will wipe out Mecca that keeps them from doing so. Remember, a muslim cannot reach paradise if he has not completed his pilgramage and he cannot do so if it is gone. I hope and pray it never comes to that.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (jPCiN)

76 I love the American people, I despise our government. Get it Dave? Now go slurp some government cock, bitch.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:12 PM (PnMkz)

77 I agree to that Defense guy too, we are closing in to a similar idea.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:14 PM (WWEQ3)

78 Dave, Here you go, have a kleanex. There's something on your chin.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:22 PM (PnMkz)

79 Greg, belu, Martin, Defence guy Young bourbon professional and Carlos, thanks for changing words here, I wish you all a nice no more bad news day, and remember that what makes us special is the freedom of choice. We will never truly have that while seeing extreme poverty in one side of the planet and extreme wealth in the other end. The rest depends on the 4 or five monkeys we vote. Have a nice evening, Friend of evrysingleoneofyou´s Louis

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:23 PM (WWEQ3)

80 Louis, I'm an American who has lived in Africa for a number of years. I have also lived in South America for an even greater number of years. I love Africa and I once considered it my home. But I don't romanticize the poor like you irrational Leftists do. Kenyans in particular I found to be lazy and dishonest. I don't trust them any farther than I can throw them. If you hired them for a job, they'd stop working as soon as you turned your back. If they are still poor it's because they are generally a lazy and corrupt people. And it's a lot worse in other parts of Africa. 98% of the money we send them goes down the shithole. Don't blame the Queen of England.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (tFXpR)

81 All my love and solidarity after this coward terrorist attack againts the London and British people. This was not only an attack against you, british, it has been an attack againts all of us in the WEST from the Fascist Islam. They will never prevail on us. Never. Pedro Avilés Journalist and Blogger Madrid, Spain, EU www.elreporter.com

Posted by: Pedro Avilés at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (6aB7n)

82 As an American I want to tell the people of the world to stop. Stop blaming the Republicans, Conservatives, and whatever other names you choose to call the people that are sick to death of the crap that pours out of some of your mouths, The G8 summit for instance, is it or is it not taking place to create solutions to problems that you protesting unemployed liberals are raising cain about and here you are again, disrupting the proceedings. What happened in London this morning is a damn shame, but it isn't to be blamed on Bush & Blair, Geez give it up Please start blaming the ones that are doing this. The ones that are killing innocent people. Stop protecting them with all these Human rights, Equal rights BS. I would kill a vicious dog that harms one of my loved ones and not even blink an eye. What makes you people think that they even remotely deserve to be treated humanely, Were the people who were burned and buried alive in these bombings treated humanely.

Posted by: Terri at July 07, 2005 03:26 PM (HSi9I)

83 Pedro--You might want to ask Howie to take off some of your information for safety reasons.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:29 PM (x+5JB)

84 I would if I knew how. I'll look into it later should Pedro request it. In the mean time Pedro don't be an idiot like me.

Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 03:32 PM (D3+20)

85 greg, did I hit a nerve

Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:36 PM (fsJ2z)

86 From this way we are take off the Islas Malvinas (Falkland Islands). Anyway, i'm consterned with the explosions.

Posted by: Diego at July 07, 2005 03:39 PM (iOy71)

87 Pedro, comprendo tu ira, pero sos un pelotudo hijo de la monarquía española que degolló indios en america por oro y plata, lo mismo que la reina. Les pasa lo que les pasa, porque pasan los años y se hacen los que se olvidaron y asi america africa y asia sigue en la marginalidad absoluta, mientras vos seguramente tenes un buen sueldo y te tiras la plata de putas en tu departamento haciendote el reportero star. Anda a lavarte el orto. Translated to english by me myself, jeje Pedro, I understand your anger, but you are a frican ashole yourself, as Spain your country also supported piracy a lot of years ago, and killed millions of indians by their back like rats, then raped their woman, and slaverized their kids for sweeping your boats. I´m sure you are a reporter that have a nice apartment nowdays, and fuck whores daily with the nice money you earn, pretending to be a star reporter for a phony magazine. I did not get upset about the solidarity with the victims, I scandalized myself because you refer to the fascist islam like your Spain was disneyland. Jerk asshole Spain has the wealth it has due to millions of killings, while indians welomed you with gold and silver you offered mirrors and a big spade on their backs. Assshole

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:40 PM (WWEQ3)

88 >>>"Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America." America is the LEAST RACIST country on the planet. I have lived on three continents and travelled on four, so I know this from personal experience-- not from brainwashing at Liberal universities, like you. Argentina is possibly the MOST RACIST country on the planet (after Spain).

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:49 PM (tFXpR)

89 Gee, where is COOqarUK when ya need him? For anyone that's been on the blogs a while, you will remember this english chap as totally against the Iraq invasion, and totally against his leader, Blair for allying with us. Us American bloggers would tell him, "if this happened in your country, what would you say then?" Sadly, this has now happened there, and I still wonder what he would think now. I say let them all kill each other and leave Iraq and to hell with them. That is NOT letting the enemy think we are chicken shit. These sleeper cells are all over the damned place, what makes anyone think that continuing to fight in Iraq and finding Osama and Zarqawi's gonna stop the bombings?? We need to focus on those already here first, and make sure no one else gets in.

Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 03:53 PM (L3PPO)

90 Not really Carlos, jews flew when the wwII, Spanish came to eat too, Italians also had a room, while the rest of the world was raining in blood, the fact that you have travelled so much does not mean you haven´t missed historical genocides. If you are above 40 you know perfectly well what I mean. Anyway, Everyone horrorizes about recent events because we have no pictures or video of US colonization and fumigation of indians, as the same happened in the US with the indians, it all comes back but with better weapons, that´s all. Men don´t learn from passed mistakes carlos, or we would already have a better world. Anyhow, i understand your point and in some way agree to some of your sayings.

Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:56 PM (WWEQ3)

91 Louis, you know that when an Argentinian calls somebody a "Boliviano" he means one thing-- inferior indian. You know that anybody in Argentinina who isn't blond and blue eyed is a "Boliviano", spit! It is an openly racist country-- unlike the U.S.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:07 PM (tFXpR)

92 British, you get wath you deserve, wath the hell you think you are?

Posted by: billy at July 07, 2005 04:24 PM (aHzGL)

93 "Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast 13:30 Jul 07, '05 / 30 Sivan 5765 (IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred. The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit." This from the mouths of the Israelis themselves. Why the fuck weren't the British people warned? To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast.

Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 04:25 PM (yzwgH)

94 >>>"To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast." greg, I'm fond of you, you know that. But you're a fucking lunatic.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:28 PM (tFXpR)

95 I think we all see where Gregs posts are going, from Israeli advanced warning -> Mossad agents + U.S Government plot to cause chaos in London in order to boost the support for the war in the U.K. let me just save you about 4 more posts till you "gently" suggest the above.

Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 04:47 PM (fsJ2z)

96 Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on? and Billy...I have only two words to say to you and the second one is "OFF"

Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 04:48 PM (KF1fi)

97 GEEZ, people! It bitching amongst yourselves solving this terrorist problem? No! Here we are, tearing ourselves apart, insulting and wailing because we have some differences of opinions and then pointing fingers at Bush, Blair, the Queen, and Africa. The people who deserve the blame are the people who set the bombs and then sang and rejoiced afterwards. Blame them, they actually did it. So, around 40 people were killed, maybe 700 or more injured. And we deal with it how? By tearing each other's heads off? By insulting one another? Big fucking deal. That's not solving anything. It's in times like these when we need to lose the hysteria and start figuring out a way to make sure that shit like this doesn't happen. Screaming at one another accomplishes nothing and further divides us all. So suck it up, act like civilized people, and start using your scathing wits to come up with a solution to what's happening. And when we're all done with that, we can figure out a way to make sure that when the shit does hit the fan, people don't start hitting each other with ill-considered words and threats. This is precisely why these folks bombed London-- to divide us, and cause chaos, so we can destroy each other. The way to fight their agenda of division is cooperation and unity to solve a collective problem. Screaming and bitching won't change the fact that there are 40 people dead and there's lots of work to be done. So come off it.

Posted by: Amy at July 07, 2005 05:21 PM (c7cZk)

98 no political rants here. I've read a lot of posts from all over the world today, pointing fingers, blaming one or the other, voicing opinions that would make Hitler happy. I hope people will sober up and realize that this is a war. The world is truly changed. Stand tall and proud, England. There are Americans who love you.

Posted by: Ron at July 07, 2005 06:53 PM (6krEN)

99 I'm so fed up with people who speak as if they knew everything and everyone... Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them. Though many people do, my friends, family and I never call someone a "boliviano" when we want to insult them, so stop saying "Argentinians this and that". Speak about what you know! By the way, we call them "pelotudo". And that's what I'm saying to you.

Posted by: Pamela at July 07, 2005 07:00 PM (35+dl)

100 Amy, although I appreciate what your saying, the fact that we are all screaming, ranting and raving is because we CAN'T stop this! It's an invisible enemy...they've been here a long time, plotting and planning, there are sleeper cells everywhere....you can close the borders, blah, blah, blah, and tighten security but these assholes are already IN....your neighbor next door, the guy who owns the 7-11, anyone's fair game. I can almost predict where the next hits are going to be, but judging how many people post on these blogs and how a terrorist was actually found and captured through the blogs, I will not say where they will most likely happen, so as not to give them any ideas, but then again, they already know about these areas. Pretty soon, you will be frisked when you go to the supermarket...it's not gonna be possible to go anywhere in public without going through some security gate or being searched...you think the lines at the airport are long now? Wait till you have to wait in lines at other places too.

Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 08:06 PM (L3PPO)

101 >>>"Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on?" Nope, not openly racist. You want open racism go to Europe and South America. >>>"Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them." Pamela, Nobody ever stopped criticizing the U.S. simply because they didn't meet "every single American", so I don't intent to stop criticizing racist Argentina simply because I have not met every single Argentinian. I've met enough of them, and I've met the people they call "bolivianos". If you're not a racist, that's great-- and neither are most Americans. But I'm talking about ARGENTINA, not Pamela. And Argentinians are FAMOUS for their racist Euro-wannabe attitude. Get this through your thick skulls, YOU AREN'T EUROPEANS.

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 08:39 PM (8e/V4)

102 Hello Oyster, The poorly applied quote from the movie fits poorly when we look at historical background. That is, it appears to fit the bomber side better than the occupier side. Hi Dan, You write: “Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back.” This is an easy claim to make in a historical fact and logic sense with a small caveat: UK troops invaded Iraq. This much is clear. UK troops (Royal Marines, etc…) did not ‘invade Muslims,’ so to speak. It is helpful to understand the meaning of terms and how they are applied. One cannot invade a Muslim in a military sense. Then, you mention, “Islamofascists” (a term with a lot of baggage) invaded European countries with success. You seem to be referring to immigration. “Invasion” does not seem like a good working idea here, i.e. many of these immigrants are naturalized citizens and some have work visas. ‘Invited’ “Invaders” might work better. You then mention you are on Britain’s side. I would hope you will regard Blair and Bush quite critically then. Thanks for the time.

Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:48 PM (hvJmm)

103 greg, sorry to burst another one of your bubbles: From Powerline blog: "I'm afraid we may have an urban legend in the making. Benjamin Netanyahu is in London to give a speech at an economic conference, and it has been reported that he got advance warning of the impending attacks: Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred. The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit. This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner: I have just spoken to a source very close to Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu was scheduled to speak later today at an economic conference in a London hotel directly above the site of one of the subway explosions. "The explosion happened just beneath the hotel at the same time the meeting with businessman interested in investing in Israel was expected to begin," said an aide to Netanyahu. There were published reports early this morning that Scotland Yard officials contacted the Israelis minutes before the attacks to warn them of imminent terrorist strikes. My sources in the Israeli Government are denying those reports. They say the Israeli Embassy and the Netanyahu security team received reports immediately AFTER the first explosion, warning Netanyahu not to go to the hotel. "There was no early information about terrorist attacks," said Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom on Israel Army Radio. "After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear." I'd be surprised if left-wing and anti-Semitic groups don't seize on the incorrect early report to spin out idiotic conspiracy theories, just as they did with no provocation in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks."

Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 09:12 PM (8e/V4)

104 Far too late, Carlos. The anti-semitic slime like Raimondo are already on the job.

Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:33 AM (xauGB)

105 Meanwhile, I see that greg still has that filthy mouth.

Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:37 AM (xauGB)

106 You Brits are damn right we Americans are with you. As an expat living (somewhere) in Europe, I can say with authority you're about the last nation in Europe who remembers your principles (aside from G. Galloway, that pathetic little tit, and his buddies, that is). The rest of them, lead by the ever-courageous French, are willing to sell out our history and culture to appease these Islamofascist death merchants. Well not me. Not on this boy's watch. But there's more than one reason we stand with you. It's not just values and ideas. It's that you can stand on your own, and you retain enough self respect to pick up and go on. I was amazed at the will in the eyes of the Londoners on the television last night, and it has only increased my esteem and respect toward your great nation.

Posted by: Mikey at July 08, 2005 01:52 AM (Rbewf)

107 Seamus - Thankyou for YOUR time as well. I am well aware of the history behind William Wallace. However, the statement I used was certainly not meant to be construed (at least by me) at THIS time for anything other than a specific focus on saying to an enemy (and that DOES apply to the cowards that attacked London this day)that they may take our lives but not our freedom - and that DOES apply to any freedom loving person anywhere. Wallace may be the 'originator' for the statement, but the statement itself says volumes to any freedom loving person wherein some terrorist would try to steal it by killing and maiming. The rancor obviously still felt by some about Wallace and Longshanks is not what I had in mind or to be an insult. I just thought the statement fit the bill because I believe the Brits ARE also freedom loving and would defend it to their deaths. I really think you misinterpreted how the statement could well apply, though it may not be the best in everyman's eyes. I find it interesting that because I use a 'universal' type quote for freedom loving folks, you take it as though because it came from Wallace who fought England, that I support 'the other side'. Please think again. Many here are more interested, as I, in the welfare of those Brits that fell in harm's way today and pray for their swift recovery, and for the families of those lost - our sincere condolences and support, and for all of England, never give in.

Posted by: Dale P at July 08, 2005 02:10 AM (39PE9)

108 Good Morning All Scotland Yard had the scum that commited these bombings under surveillance for weeks, and now they have mysteriously vanished. Anyone that is suspected of being a terrorist should be arrested and interrogated, Whatever their nationality. In Britain we are processing a greater number of asylum seekers weekly and in those towns that they are sent to the crime rate has increased (Rape, Assaults, Theft, ect)....How long do we have to put up with this? We also have extremists on our streets recruiting young lads to become terrorists...I think Mr Blair will have to get his act together before the people do it for him

Posted by: Rodders at July 08, 2005 02:42 AM (KF1fi)

109 Carlos:'This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner:' Carlos, don't you know that history is being rewritten and vanishing down the 'memory hole' on a daily basis? I hate to burst your bubble, but you're a fucking idiot. Stop slurping on that government dick, you're going to ruin your teeth. 'The report has now been corrected', just as the Ministry of Truth 'corrected' reports in the book, '1984'. There is ZERO evidence that this attack was done by Al Qaeda. Only a decree by Big Brother. I for one do not love Big Brother.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 03:23 AM (EoFYh)

110 When freedon is referred, is it freedom to choose betwen brand A & B (and eventually C), between lies and more lies or between bad and worst? the freedom claimed to be defended is just a good excuse good enough for mindless people. people who dare have conclutions on their own might have quite a different opinion than people who do not. that is bad enough for them.

Posted by: ignasi at July 08, 2005 04:42 AM (AscQ4)

111 Hello Dale P, Thank you for the reply. Okay.

Posted by: Seamus at July 08, 2005 04:55 AM (hvJmm)

112 Good morning, back to catch up and already seen very interesting things from all, that´s good, because at least we can read and open our minds. It´s been quite rough to read what you guys say to each other including me of course, but it´s all about different points and knowledge of the facts. You all know, very deep inside we all love each other. Louis

Posted by: louis at July 08, 2005 06:07 AM (WWEQ3)

113 the only way to defrat these monsters is with visions and poetry

Posted by: ed at July 08, 2005 07:37 AM (2Y6+9)

114 greg, your rumour mongering is EVIL. "I can tell you unequivocally the reports are false. Israel, including our representatives in London, did not receive any prior notice of pending terror attacks," Mark Regev, senior spokesperson for Israel's Foreign Ministry, told WND. The only alert we received was a call to our British embassy immediately following the first explosion. That call was routine, and was also placed to other foreign embassies in London." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45163

Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:14 AM (8e/V4)

115 Carlos, The assertion that these bombings were perpetrated by Al Qaeda is baseless. One wonders if Al Qaeda even exists. At least, one with half a brain. It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies. Now go be a good prole and love Big Brother. He is watching you.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 09:41 AM (0gh4z)

116 "It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies." Yeah, it worked wonders in Spain. IT WORKS AGAINST BLAIR NOT FOR HIM.

Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:45 AM (8e/V4)

117 It's working on you and the rest of the ditto head crowd.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 10:04 AM (0gh4z)

118 Come on Carlos, say the truth, what would you choose if you had only one truly single choice? A) to be protected against these attacks with more pressure on irak B) to protest against Blair for them? Mark with an X the selected option. A starting at a 2 year old human child would choose A after waht we saw. If some of the British were still doubtfull about the Irak occupation, this attack would truly push them to vengance. It´s not that i´m in favour or against, but you have to consider this issue as also valid. Life is a chess game, and if you like chess, you know some decisions can drag the oponent to have to lethaly choose. In this case, the media is also phsychologically pushing it´s way through you showing people hurt on the streets and the bus ripped apart. Does not show the lives lost in Irak or Afghanistan by the occupation as even as the pictures of the london attacks. Thanks for your time. Louis

Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:34 AM (WWEQ3)

119 Yes, point being is: SINGLE CHOICE. However, there is no "single choice" for the response to the attack, and I believe that the response will be towards domestic protection of citizens via immigration reviews, and raids on terrorist suspects. When the IRA bombed the United Kingdom, the response wasn't a call for war with Ireland, it was to root out the terrorists from their safe havens and to up civilian awareness of attacks, and to ask civilians to report suspicious people, packages etc.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 11:40 AM (fsJ2z)

120 It simply seems like the army of propaganda in favour of this war is, they have been bad to us as they have reach to WMD or Nuclear stuff, which is true, but once again, who dropped th first nuclear bomb? Who helped saddam first and supplied mustard gas for study and development? Who started all this nuclear rage? The same who are now critizizing and preventing others form reaching that sort of power, So? What grants me that the countries that have that power, will use it properly? Something like a nuclear warhead has no "natural" use of.. In one word, Everyone has to fear the countries that have nuclear power, and if another country wants it, IT BECOMES A DANGER. Yes, I agree, but why did all this shit had to start in the first place? Wanna war? Blair in a boxing match against bin would be nice and the one that losses, losses, that would be it. No hunger or diseases to feel sorry for, no casualties. Just a worlwide televised match between the supporters of war, but that´s no bussiness to big companies that make weapons. So wars, invasions and shit like this must be sponsored anonimously. And that is only what I think. I dont pretend you to agree.

Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:50 AM (WWEQ3)

121 That is also true Dave,

Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:54 AM (WWEQ3)

122 Unfortunately, due to all this, the damage is made to us normal people, like u and me, cant take no bus no more, or tube, gotta wach our backs and live our lives suspiciously, and that bothers me a lot. The attacks are not in blair´s house or bin´s tent as you can see, it´s the little war puppets who die, and it can be any of my friends or relatives. I hate this shit Dave, politicians are making us go through, and really don´t want islam to win or anything similar to that because it can become hell itself, But, applying your idea of security would be enough I think, and not INVADE directly. They went to irak and found no WMD after searching for more than a year, so ? have the army leave, thats it. What are we waiting for? You know there is another reason, and the world too.

Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:59 AM (WWEQ3)

123 Louis, I am sure you remember as do I, the political shift by the IRA to not only attack military targets in the U.K, but to take the "war" to the citizens via targetting citizens with bombs. The whole shift was to sway the politicians by increasing pressure against the Government, believing that the U.K citizens would respond with fear and call for the removal of troops from Ireland. It didn't happen that way. The people of the U.K do not crumble in fear of terror, that has always been their way, it is commendable and an admirable trait. When you stop living your life, and bow to terror the terrorists have won. I believe the terrorists will not "Win" against Britain with this bomb, just like they never win against Britain with bombs before.

Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 12:23 PM (fsJ2z)

124 1 1/2 oz vodka 3 oz tomato juice 1 dash lemon juice 1/2 tsp Worcestershire sauce 2 - 3 drops Tabasco® sauce 1 lime wedge Shake all ingredients (except lime wedge) with ice and strain into an old-fashioned glass over ice cubes. Add salt and pepper to taste. Add the wedge of lime and serve.

Posted by: Homeland Security at July 08, 2005 12:58 PM (H1wS0)

125 Nothing like a few bombings to make you feel like we are winning the "war on terror"...short of being a police state, anyone think of any bright ideas to keep things like this happening in NYC? I know many in here condemn Muslims, but I read a interesting poll lately that said most Muslims actually like Western values (which Bush says is opposite) but they in fact hate our policies and actions. Then again, I don't trust most media numbers and info. What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush? Will they rally behind him or feel betrayed that he has made monumentally stupid decisions with Afganistan and Iraq?

Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 01:39 PM (perrS)

126 Osama, They will rally behind him and welcome Martial Law like good proles. Bush will become our dictator for life. Expect a staged terror attack. When it happens, I'm off to Italy to live for good. The large breasted girls here wear T-shirts that say, 'Make Love Not War'. It reminds me of the US in the 60's. I think Gore Vidal is on to something.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 02:15 PM (nPBFW)

127 Shiiiiiiiiit. Well, Greg...I'll probably end up in Portugal since my girlfriend is from there. In that case we'll have to resort to insulting each other's olive oil and discussing the fallout from future "Osama Bin Hamburgler" nuke attacks on NYC/Washington. Or maybe we'll just meet up halfway in France for some freedom fries and steak? Just don't smoke any of those Italian cigarettes over there or you'll end up sounding like one of those maligned movie preview voiceover guys who sound like a 90-year old guy butt-fucking an onion.

Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 03:40 PM (perrS)

128 >>>"What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush?" Was this a trick question? That's easy, the Libs will lose bowel control and soil their panties, and immediately demand that we give into all terrorist demands. Conservatives, on the other hand, will simply be reminded that we are indeed engaged in a prolonged war on terror and strengthen their resolve. The country as a whole will see how the Dems are nothing but big weenies and vote for another Republican when Bush steps down.

Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 03:44 PM (8e/V4)

129 butt-fucking an onion. Osama, I think there may be poetry in those words, but I'm not certain.

Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:35 PM (xcNPe)

130 Carlos...or it might go like this: The United States citizens will realize (as polls have been showing) that Bush is a colosal fuck-up and that through his actions he has created more terrorists, given them a new place to train and unified them to align against the USA. There's only so much quoting of John Wayne before you gotta deliver on the tough guy crap. Looks like Al Queda is smoking us outta caves or subway tunnels...not the other way around. I have the feeling you guys are so busy bitching about liberals that a terrorist could strap a bomb to your ass and set it off without you knowing before you could say "Durka durka!" Greg, pass the petzels...

Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 05:00 PM (perrS)

131 It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!) I was taught that those who speak with perpetual vulgarity are showing what a limited vocabulary they have. I believe they were correct! London, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality. Bless you all! We stand with you. May the dogs, (whomever they are) the perpetrators of this deplorable act, find true justice.

Posted by: Mel in Texas at July 09, 2005 02:54 PM (bbxLM)

132 "It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!)" Hey genius, maybe I should email you my posts to preview them before putting them up? Or would you'd rather wash my uncensored mouth out with your favorite brand of moralistic, preachy soap? If you weren't so *&@$#)* busy spamming the FCC every time someone says a naughty word, you'd realize the ugly truth: If you weren't so ignorant, you'd be able to look past what Jerry Falwell told you was acceptable language (between his blabbering to prostitutes) and listen to what people are saying in here regardless of the words your imaginary friend in the sky deemed as proper. Oh yeah, as your new spelling and grammar helper, I've revised a few of your sentences: "Iraq, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality. Bless you all! We stand with you." Ah, that has a nicer ring of truth to it, no? How about... "May the dogs in the White House, (all of them) the perpetrators of these deplorable acts in our world today, find true justice." MUCH better!

Posted by: osamabeensellin'tinfoil at July 09, 2005 05:12 PM (perrS)

133 DOWNING STREET MEMO: You are a piece of shit! Your mother is raghead trash. Get the picture? Creep.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 09, 2005 11:16 PM (CBNGy)

134 Greyrooster/Bablar - you are a scumbag of the highest order. You smell like a used condom found on the floor of a jail cell.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 10, 2005 05:25 AM (ScqM8)

135 DOWNING STREET MEMO: Your mother is a condom. For any camel/goat fucking Islamofacist that walks buy. You are shit. Shit of the lowest order. A coward. Death to all that take sides against America. You should hang for the treasonous actions. Maybe, some real Americans can fix it up. You need to be on the internet. In the same situation as Nick Berg. You lousy sinking son of a diseased goat herder.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 07:47 AM (CBNGy)

136 Gayrooster... You lick the schmegma cheese from your wife's gonorrhea infected cock while finger-banging your son's itchy weevil bitten rectum. The SPAM truck is comin' for you and your days are numbered. May Nick Berg's ghost head float around you, spitting blood on your pointy hood till Babler, inc. relocate you to a nice project. Homies await your flabby old rotted ass meat for target practice. There are no margaritas in hell...

Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 10, 2005 01:18 PM (perrS)

137 I love you all.

Posted by: Sheik Yerbouty at July 10, 2005 06:44 PM (XBmnj)

138 Sheik! How dare you come in here! I told you that your cell was only to infiltrate the unmentionable, unforgivable, unforgettable blog. I'll dock your virgins in the afterlife if you can't stay the course! Kaabah Laabbah Durkah Burkah!

Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 10, 2005 10:00 PM (perrS)

139 for those who are winding bloody crap so easily about those who commited this bloodshed as well about those who still kill innocent people (specially) i tell them that instead of throwing useless acusations, to find out why this happened (and why killing is still happening today). you might not ever concieve curing, let's say cancer, in you don't know why it happens, so why don't you also do the very same? read, gather information and compare the sources and perhaps a solution might arise. and something to consider: when someone declares war, is exposing the people he/she represents to danger, anguish and possible suffering. it is brainless to determine the battlefield "there" and not "here". otherwise is naive, stupid and/or cynic (between others).

Posted by: ignasi at July 11, 2005 08:06 AM (Iog3O)

140 I can see all the Dickheads have started now.....Playtimes over now children

Posted by: Rodders at July 11, 2005 10:35 AM (KF1fi)

141 Ref Carlos,on 7/7, 11.38 on this very thread. You have watched and witnessed for five days now. Our government is still there and so are our troops in Iraq. As I before stated, we British are not Spanish. Thankyou.

Posted by: k at July 11, 2005 05:03 PM (PM/BC)

142 K, you're a man's man for BLAIRing out your lovely support of a war misplaced. Now go molest yourself Gitmo style and get your teeth fixed.

Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 11, 2005 07:34 PM (perrS)

143 Ignasi: You would make a fine cowardly terrorist. Your thought processes are the same. You obviously do not understand what manhood means or is about. Based on your ascertions we should be bombing hospitals, buses, public housing and such throughout the muslim world. Doesn't matter how you fight or who you kill. Right. You need a shot a testosterone. A great big shot.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:06 AM (CBNGy)

144 Rodders: Please show examples of where the United States in openly racist. I am in total disagreement with you. Hope you can show some REAL examples and not some silly shit from 100 years ago.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:20 AM (CBNGy)

145 Louis: You seem to be wrapped up in this Africa black man thing. We to have seen television programs showing black African children suffering from poverty and starvation. Heart go out to any suffering child. QUESTION: If America gave 100 Billion dollars in medical and food tomorrow how many more hungry children would we see in twenty years? Ah! Not so simple is it. When you have a people that continue to have child after child knowing they offer them nothing but suffering what can we do. They are not going to stop fornicating. The more we feed them the healthier they become and they have more and more children. You have a solution? The parents of these children obviously don't care what happens to them. Are you saying it is my responsibility? I had enough sense only have what I could properly care for. Sometimes reality must take over. Reality is that the African nations must mature on their own. We can send them rubbers and hamburgers. However, the truth is they will throw out the rubbers and eat the hamburgers and have more children.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:44 AM (CBNGy)

146 greyrooster if you don't want to understand the reason why, then you are equal to those who have blasted london. you think you are right just as they probably think they are. your unwillingness to even consider that not everybody should think the same is what feeds terror because you promote terror on your side. and by the way, you are ALREADY bombing hospitals, buses, housing and such throughout the muslim and not muslim world. if you are blind to this (willing or unwillingly), just put your arse in gear and come to know that the very fact that these atrocities are not in the headlines (and not even comented throughout mainstream newspapers) does not lesser its status. you have the very right to ignore them, but that doesn not make them dissapear.

Posted by: ignasi at July 13, 2005 06:02 AM (Iog3O)

147 I'm a Muslim and Islam always teaches how to be obedient to God and to respect all people irrespective of their beliefs. However even a nice mongrel if it is provoked and pushed against a wall will bite back. The madrassah in Pakistan teaches young kids to learn the religion and many as young as 12 years old can recite the whole Koran by heart. 9/11 is a result of American greediness plundering Arab's resources and supporting the most cruel regime in the world. Afghanistan and Iraq are just rubbing salt to the wound. As long as the majority still stupid enough to listen to all the lies - 'hate our freedom', WMD, Muslim terrorists, and other rhetorics-you will suffer from the fear of similar incidents. You have lost some of your freedoms. Some businesses have been affected. Mideast tourists are now coming to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. The business is booming - thanks to bush/blair/sharon. Those affected directly/indirectly in the UK, you know who to sue.

Posted by: Muhammad Alwi at July 21, 2005 10:15 PM (fkGtV)

148 Guys! You've started your own little war with your opposing opinions! Everyone has different perspectives, best you can do is agree to differ. You see that's my perspective. Now you can argue and say no we should express our opinions and convince others to adhere to these but then I'll be expecting that. I'm just writing an essay on the opposing perspectives on the London bombings so I read your comments. Very interesting but yea then you started insulting each other which prompted me to comment.

Posted by: Hol at August 28, 2005 05:20 AM (Jnqcf)

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