July 31, 2005
Al T.V.
I've been following with interest, and more than a little confusion, the story of Current Television, the network by Al Gore that is debuting tomorrow. Below the fold is a lengthy analysis on what I think this network's main accomplishment in this new, and possibly exciting format of "citizen television" is going to be...
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HAHAHA! Thank you for making me laugh on yet another Sunday night/monday morning with insomnia...
Posted by: Margo Demers at July 31, 2005 11:10 PM (eKquB)
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Al Gore will be filling a much needed network which regularly caters to liberal viewpoints and excludes all others. Certainly no other network would ever do such a thing.
Posted by: Mark at August 01, 2005 12:59 AM (yapOj)
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Of course you know he invented TV, don't you?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 01, 2005 01:21 AM (0yYS2)
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King Fahd is dead. Good riddance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4734175.stm
Posted by: Ariya at August 01, 2005 02:28 AM (noCGr)
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I just remembered where I had heard the name Rusty Shackleford before I got to this site.
Dave Gribbles unemployment money alias in King of the Hill... =)
See ya.
Posted by: A Finn at August 01, 2005 05:40 AM (lGolT)
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Although I think it was Crusty Shackleford... I dunno.
Posted by: A Finn at August 01, 2005 05:49 AM (lGolT)
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Don't you go invading Saudi-Arabia even if things might get a bit wild now that the king is dead. (had to say that, my urge to annoy would have bothered me for up to 2 minutes if I hadn't)
Posted by: A Finn at August 01, 2005 05:53 AM (lGolT)
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Anybody Wanna Meet for a Beer?
By Demosophist
So anyway, I'm gonna be down near the National Mall tomorrow morning, in case anyone wants to meet for hot dogs or pizza or something. Pretty close to the Air and Space Museum, or the Smithsonian "Castle." Should be free by about 10:00 AM in case there are any Jihadists who would like to take a shot at me. Which wouldn't be that tough to do, since I can't carry in "The District." About as vulnerable as I can be. Well, for a macho sonofabitch, I mean.
Just give me a time and place. Like the X-15 exhibit in the A&S Museum at 10:30AM? How about that?
I'm not going near that reflecting pool though. And I'm in a real shitty mood, so don't count on much scintilating conversation. It's freakin' July in the swamp, after all.
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The A&S Museum. The first time I walked in, I was on a business trip and had a couple hours to spare. I hadn't read up on it and had no expectations. There in the huge lobby, suspended from the ceiling - the Wright Bros. Flyer, the Spirit of St. Louis, the Bell X-1, and the Apollo XI Command Module. WOW! WOW! WOW! I couldn't believe it!!!
Enjoy.
Posted by: The Commissar at July 31, 2005 08:26 PM (9cYaE)
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Beer at 10:00 am? Who are you, Jack Butler?
I've got a meeting tomorrow ...
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 31, 2005 08:52 PM (02d/e)
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the Finns will drink at 6 am. The Helsinki airport is full of Finns drinking at early hours of the morning.
I too have work in the morning which is a shame as there is a extreme shortage of right-thinking people in DC.
Posted by: Fred Fry at July 31, 2005 08:59 PM (RPY7Q)
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Commissar, I hope you get a chance to go to the Udvar-Hazy center, the new Air&Space annex.
A Concorde, an SR-71, and the freakin' Space Shuttle Enterprise. Plus hundreds of other planes, rockets and missles. Amazing.
Posted by: Eric J at July 31, 2005 09:06 PM (5PRM2)
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Eric: I'm with you on the new annex -- it's amazing. Although the last time I was there my buddy kept trying to get Japanese tourists to pose in front of the Enola Gay ...
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 31, 2005 09:26 PM (02d/e)
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Well, I was there. Got out of my meeting at about 10:00 AM and realized I'd forgotten to check the comments to see if anyone was going to show up, so I just walked over to hang around for awhile. It's not as though any time spent in that museum is wasted, but nobody showed up except for a couple of Japanese girls who were talking pictures of themselves in model poses. Like I said, never a wasted moment.
Yeah, it's a little early for beer. Figure of speech.
Posted by: Demosophist at August 01, 2005 06:53 PM (IbWE6)
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Okay: There is hope for the Finns.
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While The MSM Brings Us Body Bags, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, And How The Word Hates Us - They Ignore What's Right With America And The Things That "Make Us Proud"
Can anyone please explain to me why the AP and CBS rush to bring us a
phony fatwah story along with the image below on the right of a Muslim and a Crescent defaming our national symbol, but totally ignore the story behind the man and the image below on the left?
(Image on left is the Navy Cross, via Bob Lonsberry and Mary Jones. The disgusting image on the right that defames our nation's flag and in effect, symbolizes an Islamic takeover of America, is from the AP and CBS)
Had I not received an email about this I wouldn't have known about it either.
"The odd fact about the American media in this war is that it's not covering the American military. The most plugged-in nation in the world is receiving virtually no true information about what its' warriors are doing." If it doesn't undermine the war effort and our nation's effort to keep Islamofascists from blowing us up and replacing every church and synagogue in America and Europe with a mosque, the press doesn't report it.
For those of you who might not know, the man on the left in the image below is the Commandant of the Marine Corps, and he is proud to know the man on the right.
Meet Brian Chontosh, the man on the right; Churchville-Chili Central School Class of 1991, proud graduate of the Rochester Institute of Technology, husband and about-to-be father, First lieutenant (now Captain) in the United States Marine Corps, and a genuine hero.
At 29 Palms in California Brian Chontosh was presented with the Navy Cross, the second highest award for combat bravery the United States can bestow.
And "That's a big deal." But you didn't see it on the network news that night. And all you'd have read in Brian's hometown newspaper is two paragraphs of nothing.
All we get from the likes of the AP, CBS, and most of the MSM is a "non-stop feed of gloom and doom," but we get nothing about our progress in Iraq and on the War on Terror, and worst of all, we don't hear about our American heroes, the guys fighting and dying in the crotch of the world so all of us can continue on with our lives and the MSM can continue it's anti-military, anti-administration, anti-American, ostrich-imitating rants.
As Bob Lonsberry writes in the tribute to Capt Chontosh, "Accounts of American valor are dismissed by the press as propaganda, yet accounts of American difficulties are heralded as objectivity. It makes you wonder if the role of the media is to inform or to depress - to report or to deride. To tell the truth, or to feed us lies."
And as for our incredibly brave GIs who honorably do their duty, the ones "our grandparents would have carried on their shoulders down Fifth Avenue," well, we never hear anything from the media about them, and because of the MSM's failure to report what's right with our country, guys like Capt Brian Chontosh go completely ignored.
It was a year ago on the march into Baghdad. Brian Chontosh was a platoon leader rolling up Highway 1 in a humvee. When all hell broke loose.
Ambush city.
The young Marines were being cut to ribbons. Mortars, machine guns, rocket propelled grenades.
And the kid out of Churchville was in charge. It was do or die and it was up to him.
Thanks to journalist and broadcaster Bob Lonsberry and Mary Jones,
you can learn all about how Capt Brian Chontosh won the Navy Cross in this beautiful tribute.
Hat tip with extra thanks to Red Falcon at The Steiner Aid, who posted on this story back on June 28.
Cross posted by Hyscience
Semper Fi! From one Marine to another.
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I haven't seen/heard anything about this, aside from Lonsberry, locally here in Rochester. I could be wrong; but if the local media has mentioned it, it got by me.
Disgusting that they ignore things like this.
Posted by: BorgQueen at July 31, 2005 05:33 PM (AxlwF)
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The media is truly the enemy!
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 31, 2005 06:12 PM (DDXXI)
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The people have spoken and Downing Street Memo accepts majority rule. DSM now leaves Jawa Report permanently per your wishes.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 31, 2005 06:17 PM (ScqM8)
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Don't be a little pussy, DSM. You leave when you get banned.
Posted by: Carlos at July 31, 2005 07:17 PM (8e/V4)
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Gung Ho! Get some Jarhead! Killed 20 in one battle. Never hear that on the MSM/DNC. All they want to have on is Ted "Quagmire" or Dick NAZI.
The Navy Cross is an extraordinary honor.
Gung Hooooooooo!
an old exJarhead.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 31, 2005 07:39 PM (Z6yVb)
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Your post is exactly why so many Americans are finding, reading and sharing the "real news" that blogs post and why the MSM is losing credibility more and more......
Thank you for sharing this true American with us. Keep up thegood work.
Cheryl
Posted by: Cheryl at July 31, 2005 09:40 PM (4r1wG)
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For excellent reportage on the war go to http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/ . This guy is totally independent, went over to Iraq on his own to specifically cover the war. He is embedded with the 24 and writes with a wonderful style. It tells of what the soldiers do, but by a non-soldier.
Posted by: Bill at July 31, 2005 10:12 PM (WwtVa)
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Of course the MSM lies. For the reality:
http://tinyurl.com/azwqe
Posted by: TheRidge at August 01, 2005 01:41 AM (RaZ4B)
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Where can you find the link for the context in which the American flag with the symbol of the moon god on the blue background? I looked around AP and CBS and couldn't find it.
Posted by: CDR Salamander at August 01, 2005 07:37 AM (PJ4Iq)
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DSM will surely return. He can't find anyone in lefty blogland to give him any passionate stimulation of his grey matter. Ha!
Hope to see you soon, my Australia friend. See, I've changed, and the only thing I want is for you to come back without the personal attacks and animosity.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 01, 2005 09:30 AM (DDXXI)
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Hyscience, it's really sad that this story didn't get broader play.
Kyer, otoh, had up the Lonsberry tribute about a week or so ago, which I linked as well - Chontosh is amazing. When will Nightline, 60 Minutes or some other news magazine talk about the heroes who dedicate their lives to the service?
Posted by: tee bee at August 01, 2005 12:17 PM (q1JHF)
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You guys seen Rusty lately?
Al-Qaeda's websites are getting blasted off the airwaves, one by one, and the
London Times and Israel think it's MI5 getting frisky:
The web has become the new battleground of terrorism, permitting a freedom of communication denied to such organisations as the IRA a couple of decades ago.
One global jihad site terminated recently was an inflammatory Pakistani site, www.mojihedun.com, in which a section entitled How to Strike a European City gave full technical instructions. Tens of similar sites, some offering detailed information on how to build and use biological weapons, have also been shut down. However, Islamic sites believed to be “moderate”, remain.
One belongs to the London-based Syrian cleric Abu Basir al-Tartusi, whose www.abubaseer.bizland.com remained operative after he condemned the London bombings.
Don't they wish they'd done this two months ago? (H/T: Little Green Fooballs)
Me? I think there's a certain little Jawa out there, fooling with their droids.
And speaking of the IRA...you know that "shoot subway bombers in the head" policy in Britain that some folks are getting upset about? It dates back to the Thatcher years. From the American Spectator:
If shoot-to-kill for suspected bombers was good enough for the IRA under Thatcher, why should al Qaeda get a pass under Blair?
Umm...because Abu Ghraib? No wait, I know this one...Guantanamo! Or maybe Imperialism! Blood for oil! I got it....Karl Rove!
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Abu Ghraib? Guantanamo Bay? I'm pretty sure it's safe to just say gulag. And Israelis are beside themselves. Imagine if Israeli police shot a suspected bomber in the head five times. And don't even think about him turning out not to have a bomb strapped on (though there's little liklihood of it being a mistake in Israel).
Posted by: tee bee at July 31, 2005 03:25 PM (q1JHF)
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"I think there's a certain little Jawa out there, fooling with their droids."
Sith Happens, right guys?
Posted by: goy at July 31, 2005 08:46 PM (HcsCs)
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You forgot one; HALLIBURTON!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 01, 2005 01:24 AM (0yYS2)
Posted by: uss liberty at August 01, 2005 01:42 AM (RaZ4B)
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Hey, British intelligence may have shut down this site, but it is back up, check out the cool videos. Sometimes, the good guys win.
Posted by: mojihedun.com at August 04, 2005 09:55 PM (wnbFl)
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Hey, this site is back up already. But check it out, the message is different, I don't think the jihadist will be getting anymore instructions from this site
Posted by: John Smith at August 04, 2005 10:52 PM (wnbFl)
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7/21 suspect Didn't Mean to "Harm People Nearby"
According to new reports, Osman Hussain, the suspect arrested in Italy following the botched London 7/21 bombings claims that they didn't intend to hurt anybody. Hussain
doesn't consider himself a terrorist, and is fighting extradition to the UK.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
From the Associated Press:
ROME (AP) - A suspect in the failed London transit bombings admitted Saturday to a role in the attack but said it was only intended to be an attention-grabbing strike, not a deadly one, a legal expert familiar with the investigation said.
Osman Hussain told interrogators he wasn't carrying enough explosives even to "harm people nearby," the expert told The Associated Press. The expert spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the ongoing investigation, which under Italian law must remain secret.
Also worthy of note is that Hussain's court-appointed attorney is a woman, Antonietta Sonnessa. Very subtle of the Italians to have Hussain represented by a female infidel, especially one who favors casual and rather scanty Western dress (photos accompany the AP story).
Via Dr. Rusty Shackelford who was tipped to the story by reader Kim.
Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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>>>Osman Hussain told interrogators he wasn't carrying enough explosives even to "harm people nearby," the expert told The Associated Press.
Why of course not-- it's a religion of peace.
Posted by: Carlos at July 31, 2005 12:40 PM (8e/V4)
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sure, now torture the intel out him, and cut his head off
Posted by: Ren at July 31, 2005 01:29 PM (a9tRx)
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his court appointed lawyer is a VERY HOT female infidel.
(u should post a photo!)
but - sadly - she's probably a Leftie...
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Posted by: Carlos at July 31, 2005 02:01 PM (8e/V4)
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Hussain claims he's not a terrorist??????? here's a quote from Hussain reported in that AP story you linked : La Repubblica quoted Hussain as telling his interrogators. "We didn't want to kill, just sow terror."
what is a terrorist if its not a person who sows terror?
Posted by: rombo at July 31, 2005 05:50 PM (Bdm5S)
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There have been many ignorant statements by politicians responsible for taking us into the war in Iraq. The thread that stiches them all together is a breathtaking lack of historical knowledge, illustrated again by former UKs Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon.
His explanation for the bloodbath: "I don't think we appreciated the level of fanaticism and sheer anarchic violence people were prepared to employ to oppose the creation of a democratic society."
Why Not? Hoon and Co had plenty of warning before the invasion. All he needed was a knowledge of history to realise it was a good bet Iraq would become a battleground, not just between the rival Muslim ethnic groups but between traditional and fundamentalist factions. A recipe for disaster where the immediate beneficiaries would be the terror groups the invasion was designed to defeat.
Now even Donald Rumsfeld is talking about troop withdrawal. If the US were to do that before Iraq achieves peaceful normality it would be the ultimate betrayal and a gift to the fanatics. A war on terror lost.
Posted by: Sally at August 01, 2005 12:39 AM (PM/BC)
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ah, and all of those nails pushed into the explosives were not really for killing more people with shrapnel then?
Posted by: dave at August 01, 2005 01:35 AM (DO6vD)
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Dave, I had the same observation as you regarding the leaked photos of the bombs showing the nails... they must be
Nerf Nails™ I guess!
Posted by: Opinionated Vogon at August 01, 2005 09:11 AM (oi7Fg)
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I think I just saw a pig fly by!
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 01, 2005 09:32 AM (DDXXI)
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Go sit on the bench marked group W.
It was two days ago on Friday thatÂ’s about 48 hours ago from today Sunday. When my Friends and I were all hanging out at RustyÂ’s blog.
But RustyÂ’s blog is not he name of the blog itÂ’s just the name of the song.ThatÂ’s why I call the song RustyÂ’s blog.
We all decided that it would be a nice gesture if we all posted stuff and commented on RustyÂ’s blog while he was on vacation.
So we packed up PCÂ’s, MacÂ’s and implements of destruction, loaded them all up in a green VW microbus and headed on over to the mu.nu domain.
When we got there we saw a pile of words. We figured one big pile was better than a bunch of little piles and rather than download his we decided to upload ours and thatÂ’s what we did.
Went home drank a bottle of homemade wine that couldnÂ’t be beat and didnÂ’t get up until the next morning. When we got a call from Officer Opie.
He said KidÂ…. Â…. We found your name on a piece of trash on the blog. We donÂ’t like your kind. And weÂ’re gonna move you down.
And after speaking of it for about 25 minutes on the gmail it came down to the fact that we were going to have to come down to the blog office.
When we got there was some good looking feisty girl sitting at a desk giving directions she said, “Go over there and wait on that bench marked group W”.
Group W is where they put you if you may not be moral or smart enough to post stuff on the blog after comiting your special blog crime.
There were all kinds of nasty critters sitting there on the bench. Greg, DSM, Greyrooster, IM, Filthy, Osama, Â…Â… There were commentrapers Â… Â… bloggerstabbers. Â…. .Â…bloggerrapers!!!Â…
They were all mean and nasty sounding and the biggest meanest ugliest bloggerraper of em all was coming right over to me and he was all mean and nasty and scary lookinÂ’.
He said, “What did you get?”
I said, “I didn’t get nothing, just had to pay $50 and let people read my garbage.”
They asked, “What are you here for?” and I said, “littering.”…. …. Well they all moved away from me there on the bench. …… ……
Till I said, “And creating a nuisance.” And they all came back and we had a good time talking about bloggerstabin’, comment rapin’, stupid postin’ and all kinds of groovy things.
Then Sith Master Rusty came over and said,
“Kid!”…………..
“Thisblog’sgot40000hits30000readers- 200regularcommenters23authorsi
workdmyassoffhowie- youmoronstoppissinoffthe
otherbloggers-a ndlikingthetrollsthinkaboutwhaty
oursay- infoolandthatgoesfortherestof- youtooyoubig
bunchofpainsintheass Â…Â…. For 45 minutes and none of us understood a thing he said. But we had fun playing sol in tiny windows on our cell phones and filling out the forms there.
We all went back home had another glass of homemade wine that couldnÂ’t be beat and didnÂ’t get up until the next morning. When it was time to go back to work. .
IÂ’ve been typing this crap for 25 minutes and I could go on for another 25 minutes. IÂ’m not proud Â… Â… or tired. But IÂ’ll give you a break and save it.
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Guest posters and regulars have at it, commentators too, remember you are without trolls this week. DonÂ’t let me get too bored or IÂ’ll post something or start an argument. IÂ’ll be around if anyone needs anything I should have a bit of time now and then. Rusty should be back next week.
Signed Howie
humble sith beotch padawan to Sith Master Blogger Rusty Shackleford.
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It sounds like someone has been spent way to much time at Alice's Restaurant.
Posted by: Jerry Burns at July 31, 2005 01:52 PM (sYhjT)
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Where are the 8x10 color glossies with the cirlces and arrows on the back?
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 31, 2005 05:48 PM (Kr6/f)
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I agree, haven't heard A.R. in YEARS! LOL! GREAT MEMORIES! heheheheh
Posted by: Rose at July 31, 2005 10:26 PM (WIU3k)
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You ment the 27 8x10 color glossie photographs with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on back of each one describing what each one was to be used as evidence against me.
Posted by: Howie at August 01, 2005 09:00 AM (D3+20)
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classic, howie!! brings back memories of the old vinyls and living across the street.
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July 30, 2005
"Over There" - Overblown
Well, that was disappointing. Not that Bochco's new show about the Iraq War offended me as an American - I didn't get the impression that a leftist, anti-war agenda was being pushed. No,
Over There offended me as a writer.
And the show's writers started sucking right off the bat. From the Viet Vet cliché trooper lighting up a joint while on duty through the long, long tirade the held-past-his-tour-and-pissed-as-Hell sergeant inflicts on his squad, to the unimaginative use of cable-permitted expletives, Bochco's writing staff was underwhelming.
Do senior officers undermine their lieutenants' authority (and the chain of command) by agreeing with a sergeant who has just insulted the lieutenant's leadership abilities - in front of the men? I hope not.
Do sergeants address senior officers with contempt while using "goddamn" as a frequent modifier? Maybe once.
Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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Bluto: you may want to link some of
this.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 30, 2005 10:50 PM (vq2tn)
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i missed it lastnite as i was busy at the time, but from the description given here it sounds like the writers ripped it off from Platoon and Full Metal Jacket....figures...they just had to add in some pot smoking as most liberals back home feel that the soldiers do just that, smoke pot and listen to rap music or heavy metal before they go out and kill some "insurgents" or some Iraqi civilians....how lovely
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 10:58 PM (9gFP6)
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"Over There" is a product of Hollywood-Pentagon collusion. Note how many Iraqis were mowed down and no Americans were killed, as would be expected in a real war. Troops are dying in Iraq at the rate of 2/day, meaning 14/week. If Over There accurately reflected the realities of the Iraq war, each weekly episode would have 14 American soldiers dying.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 31, 2005 06:07 AM (ScqM8)
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Also, in the last few days, DSM has had a few comments thrown down the Memory Hole or edited a la Orwell to say some nasty things far outside character. To those who were offended, it was not my fingers that typed it.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 31, 2005 06:10 AM (ScqM8)
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Dim Sum Menu: the Iraqi Terrorist Insurgency is not known for possessing military skills. They are much more comfortable attacking helpless children. That part of the show, at least, was realistic.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 31, 2005 09:55 AM (RHG+K)
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Hello, neighbor. Rae here from
A Likely Story.
Somehow, our blogs are crossed.
Your calendar is linked from
my calendar.
Posted by: Rae at July 31, 2005 10:07 AM (4YdLE)
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Well hi there, Rae. I'm just a guest poster here, but I'll send a note the blog owner, Dr. Rusty Shackelford to let him know about the problem and see if he can get some tech support.
Who would have suspected that a reprobate like Rusty had such charming neighbors?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 31, 2005 11:59 AM (RHG+K)
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DSM wrote: " If Over There accurately reflected the realities of the Iraq war, each weekly episode would have 14 American soldiers dying."
I suppose so, if the show in question was about the ENTIRE CENTRAL COMMAND, but, as it stands, the show is apparently about one platoon, which consists of about forty men. Nice try.
BTW, most of the fights I and my comrades were involved in "over there" (get it?) resulted in no friendly casaulties. Most of the time we just mowed the bastards down and called it a day.
Posted by: Filecloser at July 31, 2005 12:23 PM (X989z)
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Filecloser,
Pay no attention to DSM. He just comes here to practice his English.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 31, 2005 12:57 PM (RHG+K)
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Bluto,
Will do, natch.
Posted by: Filecloser at July 31, 2005 07:00 PM (X989z)
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It's really a pity no one can produce a good series about this all-defining war. I saw a presentation on CNN by a guy who had just been to Iraq, and he said that what's evolving there is a spiritual warrior code with the idea of manifesting ethical behavior under battle stress conditions, and that there's a very broad-based non-sectarian religious movement. I'll bet they don't show that on
Over There, huh?
Still, it'll probably be a popular serier. I'd rather watch
Rescue Me though.
Posted by: Demosophist at August 01, 2005 07:01 PM (IbWE6)
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55 Americans soldiers have been killed since the premiere of "Over There", a show that is written, produced and directed by a team that has neither been in Iraq or in combat. And yet what we see something curious happening. This show is being somehow viewed as "definitive" by an audience and critics who largely have no personal stake in the war in Iraq. As long as it "entertains", they will continue to watch.
As an alternative to the vicarious thrills and heart-tugging of "Over There", I would suggest watching "Gunner Palace", a recent documentary that shows the uncomfortable reality soldiers face in Iraq.
Posted by: Stuart Wilf at August 11, 2005 06:05 AM (f+jqD)
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Carter: Iraq War is 'Unjust'
A flailing President and a failed Presidency best sums up the tenure of Jimmy Carter in the White House. A one term President who's naiveity was surpassed only by his intellectual bewilderment. A Don Quixote mentality without the heart to do battle.
BIRMINGHAM, England — Former President Jimmy Carter said Saturday the detention of terror suspects at the Guantanamo Bay Naval base was an embarrassment and had given extremists an excuse to attack the United States.
Carter also criticized the U.S.-led war in Iraq as "unnecessary and unjust."
"I think what's going on in Guantanamo Bay and other places is a disgrace to the U.S.A.," he told a news conference at the Baptist World Alliance's centenary conference in Birmingham, England.
"I wouldn't say it's the cause of terrorism, but it has given impetus and excuses to potential terrorists to lash out at our country and justify their despicable acts."
Carter said, however, that terrorist acts could not be justified, and that while Guantanamo "may be an aggravating factor ... it's not the basis of terrorism."
Critics of President Bush's administration have long accused the U.S. government of unjustly detaining terror suspects at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base on the southeastern tip of Cuba. Hundreds of men have been held indefinitely at the prison, without charge or access to lawyers.
"What has happened at Guantanamo Bay ... does not represent the will of the American people," Carter said. "I'm embarrassed about it, I think its wrong. I think it does give terrorists an unwarranted excuse to use the despicable means to hurt innocent people."
For me this man is the perfect negative barometer. If he is on one side of an issue, you can bet the farm the other side is the place to be. During his Presidency how we escaped getting our a$$ kicked by Russia or for that matter Cuba is a miracle.
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As Presidents go, Carter made a great civilian.
Posted by: Jim at July 30, 2005 05:23 PM (ponKd)
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Yeah and what's worse I actually voted for him. The last Democrat I ever voted for. Two terms of Carter and the country may have never recovered. In some small way owe the Mullahs thanks
Posted by: bill at July 30, 2005 05:52 PM (QJhZY)
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Jimmy Carter convinced me to switch from being a Democrat to Republican. The ineptness of his administration was devastating to this country.
Posted by: Gary Aminoff at July 30, 2005 07:56 PM (mU+Tt)
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So, your theory is the Iraq war is justified because you don't like Jimmy Carter? Makes perfect nonsense as most people who aren't looking at the facts do. It's called atack the attacker to make your point. What your point is I don't know other than Jimmy Carter, in your belief, was a horrible President so he must be wrong. Bush, who isn't even our elected president, is justified because he said so. Which also makes no sense. Hopefully the people that really care about America will wake up and see what's happened to them before it's too late. Hopefully they won't continue to attack someone, who by the way on a Nobel Peace Prize, who just might be right but they don't agree with. We are even though. I don't like George Bush. I like humanitarians instead of whatever you want to call what we have in the White House now.
Posted by: Shae Whiggens at July 30, 2005 08:23 PM (h7g5W)
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Carter is trying to tell all of you something, it pays to listen!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 30, 2005 09:19 PM (ScqM8)
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The most crooked President in the history of America. He sold me on his plan to do away with the IRS and install an 12% flat tax. I only voted for this crook once. But it was the worst lapse of judgement in my life. What a scoundrel!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 30, 2005 09:21 PM (Z6yVb)
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Shae, your paragraph contains so many idiotic statements, they aren't even worthy of taking the time to attack individually. Carter was an inept President. He, himself, characterized the economy under his own adminstration as being in a 'malaise'. Even most democrats think he was a bad President. And maybe you're too busy organizing your next PETA rally, but the election was on all the TV channels last November and Bush was, indeed, elected to the office of President with a record vote total of over 63 million and more than 50% of the popular vote - which Clinton didn't accomplish in either of his elections. So, get over it already.
By the way, the Nobel Prize is awarded by the same type of Euros that are in the UN. It's pretty well-known that Carter has never met a dictator he didn't like. I guess since you don't keep up on current events such as US elections, I'll go out on a limb and guess that you weren't aware that any time a third-world dictator wants his election 'certified', Carter is already on speed-dial.
Unbelievable. The audacity to compare Carter to any of our good Presidents is beyond comprehension. Any discussion of Carter should only be whether he is just the worst modern day President or the worst of all-time.
I'm going remind you again. Bush won the election. You're opinion of him is in the minority. Get used to that losing feeling in the pit of your stomach.
Posted by: slug at July 30, 2005 09:43 PM (IKLwc)
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Peanut Jim is the only president ever to have a new word coined just to describe the condition of the economy during his watch; stagflation, a combination of stagnated growth and runaway, triple digit inflation. He also presided over the ruin of the CIA and the military. He is also a traitor, as he went to Russia in 1984 to try to convince our enemies to help defeat Regan. He is a lowlife piece of shit who should be hanged and publicly exhibited for the amusement of the crows as an example.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 30, 2005 09:53 PM (0yYS2)
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Carter doesn't just jack his jaws, he works. He wasn't a very good president, but that doesn't mean whatever he says should be automatically ridiculed and discounted. A lot of people actually agree with him about cuba, on both the right and left.
Posted by: Adam at July 30, 2005 10:44 PM (5DbtM)
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Carter feels we should do the same thing now that he did back when he was Pres when the hostages were taken...nothing, but sit back and whine and beg....spineless bastard....go back to the peanut farm and take care of youre drunken brother, Billy....maybe he should go to Iraq and build houses there for the Iraqi people and do something constructive for the war effort instead of trying to knock it all down
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 11:04 PM (9gFP6)
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Carter is a perfect example of the liberal leftist religious whack job. These are the same people who have led the divestment campaign against Israel by the Anglican Church.
One wonders whether any of these people have ever read any history, much less the Bible that they claim allegiance to. They seek to blame the US for every problem in the World. You will never hear them condemn the terrorists or the thugs.
Carter has also done irreparable harm to democracy throughout the World as he goes around and supposedly oversees elections to make sure they are fair. He has never seem a dictator he didn't like.(Castro, Mugabe, etc.) The real problem is that he lends legitimacy to these thugs.
The fact that he is able to do these things shows how fragile democracy is in the World. He should not be tolerated by either his fellow Democrats or the Bush Administration.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 30, 2005 11:19 PM (DDXXI)
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Jhimmi Carter, who so holds the office of the President in such contempt he travels the world and undermines it, is a fine contemporary example of the Midrash adage:
“He who becomes compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate.”
He is one of those grand humanitarians who loves The People and despises individuals.
Posted by: Darleen at July 31, 2005 02:06 AM (FgfaV)
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So the "Jawa Report" takes a lesson from Karl Rove's playbook, I see. It's the one titled, "Dealing with upleasant facts." Let's see what Rove has to say about that...
"Whenever the message is not what we're trying to force on the American people, attack the messenger. Worked great on Wilson."
Too bad for you guys that Carter, in this instance, is spot-on correct. There is no justification for the Iraq War. No WMD, no nukes, no Saddam-al-qaida connection. Nothing. No reason for us to be there. And he's absolutely right on Gitmo.
Since it's only possible to support the Bush administration through an act of religious faith that requires one to eschew all evidence in favor of glib talking points, try this one: American's don't torture people. Repeat until it takes hold.
Posted by: The Raven at July 31, 2005 07:14 AM (2pA4p)
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"So the "Jawa Report" takes a lesson from Karl Rove's playbook, I see. It's the one titled, "Dealing with upleasant facts." Let's see what Rove has to say about that..."
This commmentary does not neccessarily represent the opinion Jawa Report or Rusty. The good Dr. has been kind enough to let me guest blog on his site. The opinions expressed our mine. You'll have to ask Rusty what his opinions are on the subject.
Posted by: traderrob at July 31, 2005 08:41 AM (3al54)
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Raven, but evidently Americans do slander people without evidence. Examples being Carter, and yourself.
Posted by: SPQR at July 31, 2005 08:42 AM (xauGB)
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Why DoesnÂ’t Former President Jimmy Carter go to Iraq?
And build houses could it be racism does he not love the Piece Loving Arabs. I am sure he would have a lot to talk about with old Saddam. Saddam Hussein must be feeling mighty lonely puttering around his garden writing his poetry tearing the wings off of flyÂ’s and thinking now you are just like me Mr. fly as a tear runs down his cheek. Lonely days waiting for his meals to be served that delicious US Army chow that thirty million starving African would gladly give their right arm to be eating to. Support the Jimmy Carter challenge send him to Iraq to build houses. Please contact the Habitat for Humanity
And tell them Iraq needs their help send Jimmy carter to Iraq to build houses.
http://www.habitat.org/ publicinfo@habitat.org.
Posted by: Zebrab5 at July 31, 2005 09:20 AM (DoxEP)
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Utterly irrelevant, killing the messenger, thereby ignoring the message. Let's talk about what former President Carter was reported to have said:
1. Guantanamo abuses are an embarassment that give terrorists an excuse to attack the US.
You find the abuses at Guantanamo one of the great achievements of the Bush administration? Do you deny they feed anti-American propaganda efforts? Carter, of course, is absolutely right.
2. The Iraq war was unnecessary and unjust.
There were no wmd's the only immediately imminent threat; the rest - the cakewalk, the flowers and kisses - is just neocon speculation which has no basis in consensual reality. Furthermore, Saddam had nothing to do with al Qaeda terrorism. Once again, Carter is right; the Bush/Iraq war was unnecessary. As for being unjust, which sound a little odd, let's not forget the full story of Fallujah has yet to be told publicly. Independent observers compared what happened there to Dresden.
Diss the messenger all you want. But sooner or later, you're going to have to deal with the message. And Carter's absolutely right.
Posted by: tristero at July 31, 2005 11:46 AM (eCSS7)
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This whole diary is an exercise in third-grade revisionist history.
Containing Carter's presidency into beaten-to-death cliches his critics pinned on him long ago. Let's not forget that he was the original dark-horse populist Christian from the south who served in the Navy as a nuclear expert and was well grounded as the guy next door who you could trust for straight answers.
He was the guy who honestly tried to grapple with the looming energy crisis and the danger to National Security our dependance on foreign oil is. He was guilty of being too far ahead of his time when most americans longed for a simple black and white delusion the Reagan presidency offered. Us against the World. We fell for it and continue to pay like village idiots who can't muster up enough sophistication to know even where Iraq is located on a map.
Yeah, he was a "traitor and piece of shit"?! What does that say about your complete inability to lend any reasonable light on his service to our country?
This President may not have been politically succesful enough to justify the laurels of who we judge to be great based on "effectiveness". But those metrics are elusive as far as history is concerned. He well may go down as the Greatest President in terms of honesty, evenhandedness, judgement, and perseverence. Too many people even today have to much respect for this man to accept the comments here as anything but flat out hysterical and bogus.
Posted by: edsdet at July 31, 2005 12:54 PM (ymlbU)
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My reply is way to long ... just go here for it.
http://jonathanandwanda.blogspot.com/2005/07/sadam-terror-ties-for-dummies.html
Posted by: Jonathan at July 31, 2005 01:07 PM (M7kiy)
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What Guantanamo abuses are you people talking about? The only abuse I see is what our soldiers have to take from these thugs they are guarding down there.
Of course, the propaganda put out by Carter, a useful idiot if there ever was one, has definitely given the jihadis all the ammunition they need to promote their cause. Al-Jeezera and all the other Arab propaganda outlets promote the jihad agenda by the hour.
CNN and other US outlets give aid and comfort to jihad tv by reporting minor abuses as if it is torture. They then turn around and glorify these thugs who are chopping people's heads off.
Day after day, hour after hour, the jihad TV networks report the alleged abuse of Arabs and Muslims, but never report the terror, murder, and general mayhem committed by these people in Iraq, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, the Phillipines, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Britain, Denmark, and many other places in the World. Religion of Peace my ass.
You useful idiots on the left have an agenda also. You really hate the US and want it to fail. That's ok with me, you just ought to have the guts to say it.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 31, 2005 01:09 PM (DDXXI)
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Jimmy Carter is the original hugs not guns President. The list of his failures looks like a French History lesson. His experiences in the Navy predate his experiences from the time he found God and was saved. WW2 Jimmy was more likely to nuke someone than the religous sellout who became president. He failed to become Gov of Georgia, until he began lying to the blacks in the south about his anti-racism beliefs. He used the blacks in Georgia to gain office, and then drove the state into debt to create the new Georgia order. Fortunately, we all recovered, and are now on a true path that has achieved equality. He is blind and unworthy of a place in the worlld forum. The fact he was able to broker the peace between Isreal and Egypt only shows how desperately the two countries wanted it to begin with. He shames us in Georgia with his back stabbing rhetoric, and will only truley serve his country best wne he meets his maker.
Posted by: Kstumpf at July 31, 2005 03:18 PM (1hq2l)
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Mr. Carter, what foreign policy injustice of your Administration was responsible for the seizing of Americans in Tehran in 1979?
Posted by: Gordon at July 31, 2005 03:34 PM (dEFhD)
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Pete Fischer has an execellent commentary, here is a snippet http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fisher/050731
But what terrorists love are Liberals who side with them against their own nation and call for talks and peace. Because they know it gives them more time to plan, more time to amass weapons of destruction, and more time to catch them off guard. After all, the last time we had a spineless president; it gave the terrorist world 444 days to gain face in their own dark world for having bought the USA shame by kidnapping our citizens.
Take your little grudge and use that anger to do something constructive, but leave the protection of this nation to those who have the will and the backbone to do just that. We have little patience for criticism from someone who failed to live up to his own oath of office.
It is not action that incites these monsters, it is the inaction that emboldens them to continue striking while they hope and pray another Liberal will get into office and "talk" long enough for them to become stronger for their next strike.
Posted by: traderrob at July 31, 2005 04:04 PM (3al54)
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Exactly. The peoples and culture of that region respect backbone. Cowardess acts (or non-actions) as were done under the Clinton administration are what led to them being emboldened to act as they have towards the US over the past years ... beginning with the first trade center bombing when Clinton did nothing about it.
Posted by: Jonathan at July 31, 2005 04:27 PM (M7kiy)
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So, Bush attacking the wrong country and stirring up a hornest nest is better than what Clinton did? Are those troops dying in Iraq 'protecting and serving' the Constitution?
No president is perfect (especially Carter). They are all flawed and all served by petty, ambitious, backstabbing bastards. Some of you need to remember this in your current hero worship.
Posted by: Adam at July 31, 2005 04:55 PM (5DbtM)
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Adam, wake up! I'm not worshiping Bush or any other president. What I see is a group of people(Islamists, jihadis, Islamofacists, fundamentalists,etc.) who want to take us back to the Dark Ages(literally). There are only a few leaders in the world(Bush, Blair, and the chap in Australia) who are willing to take these people on.
Bush is hardly perfect, but I honestly believe he is trying to turn the tide in the Middle East to democracy. It is the only chance we have to avert a catastrophe. I do not believe that the Arabs and Muslims will ever love us, but that is not what I wish for them. I want them to have the same chance that I have to raise a family, work hard and be rewarded for it, and to have a decent, safe place to live in. When they have this, I believe they will be too busy with the business of life to be suicide bombers and terrorists.
What I do know is that the civilized world cannot afford to lose this fight in Iraq. Whether you agree on how we got there, the results of defeat would be too terrible to contemplate. Suffice it to say that the modern world would not be as we know it today.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 31, 2005 05:22 PM (DDXXI)
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Carter should stick to doing what he does best--nailing wood together.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 01, 2005 09:12 AM (x+5JB)
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Here is my 2 cents. The only reason Jimmy was elected President was due to timing and political party. The Democrats were destined to win the 1976 election due to the facts that the American people were fed up with the Republicans, (aka Watergate) who were a bunch of crooks (then and now). Now I do feel that Mr. Jimmy was one of the
worst Presidents because not only did he give away the Panama canal, but he gave away our pride also. He made the United States look like a fool.
As for the war in Iraq being legal or not, it is obviously legal. The U.S. Congress officially declared war on Iraq. (Unlike Korea or Vietnam.) Now was the war just? Yes, even forgetting about WMD and terrorist, Saddam refused to abide by the UN decisions forced upon him at the end of the first Gulf War. Those are the reason why this is a just war.
As for Mr George W. being a traitor? No, I donÂ’t feel he is a traitor. He had the ok from the Congress to start the war. He has the right as CNC to order troops around. Now,I do feel he was an idiot for jumping the gun, and not waiting for all of our troops to be in positions before he started. But he at least did not give away our pride as Mr. Jimmy.
Now do I like Mr. George W.? Far from it. I believe Cheney and him to be some of the biggest crooks in office. You can see them blatantly stealing from the US people. But I would have to say, if I had a choice between who I would want in office between Jimmy and Bush, I would have to go Bush.
Posted by: Butch at August 01, 2005 09:15 AM (Gqhi9)
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Yeah. I saw a whole batch of Fishers stuff on the site you gave, http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fisher
We need more people like him in this country. Voices like that need to be heard on tv. Be a blast to watch him banter with Hannity or Rush, huh?
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Hot Muslim Chicks of the World, Unite and Take Over
I now know Muslim women are hot and America is the greatest country in the world.
Taking a break from my writing/vacation duties I came across several Google Ads on my site that took me to a couple of Muslim Singles websites. Huzzah, I says to myself, what better way to get a fatwa than to say bad things about Muslim women? Victory is mine!
But in order to see what the chicks look like I had to register and upload a photo. No problem.
Married w/kids. Looking for mutÂ’ah wife [meaning wife for temporary enjoyment--ok in Shia teachings] to fulfill my needs while my wife is ha'rem [you know, OTR]. Must be faithful and willing to receive instruction and be disciplined [you know, I can slap you around if I want]. Must be at least 12 years older than Muhammed's (peace be upon his name) wife Aisha [Muhammed married a six year old.].
So I finally get to look at some of these pictures and to my astonishment, there were quite a few hot Muslim chicks! Seriously.
This is what I'm talking about when I'm talking about America. The ability to take this:
Raise her in an atmosphere of freedom. Give her rock and roll. Introduce her to a credit card and a shopping mall. Install cable TV with two MTVs and a VH1 station dedicated entirely to the 1980s. Then she transforms into this:
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You ain't kidding about those gazongas. She also looks like she's taken a few hits from the ol' hookah. Must be a lib.
Posted by: REMF at July 30, 2005 03:45 PM (aLiCo)
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Dr. Thanks for sharing the love. Also nice to see you on TF. Speaking of Google ads, we had a google AdSense advertisement for a website that taught you "how to get your girlfriend back," unfortunately it accompanied our story about a girlfriend who beat her beau to death with her fists, frying pan, and insecticide. Not sure readers of that story will be thinking how to reconnect with exes.
Girlfriend Pummels Beau"
Posted by: insider at July 30, 2005 04:40 PM (1/NbQ)
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morons can blog! congratulations!
Posted by: jkarlowski at July 30, 2005 05:00 PM (0xNXJ)
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Hot Muslim Chicks of the World, Unite and Take Over
Don't the have to burn down the disco, and hang the blessed DJ first?
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 30, 2005 05:00 PM (ivtqF)
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Didn't you see all the UK bombing coverage? There was no panic on the streets of London.
Posted by: Rusty at July 30, 2005 05:02 PM (eawoe)
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Re: jkarlowski, it seems one of greg's friends have dropped in.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 30, 2005 10:01 PM (0yYS2)
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think Muslim men are going on rampages when they see these women's pictures cause they arent all covered up???...after all, they cant seem to control there urge to commit rape when they see a woman's ankles...imagine when they get a gander at these ladies with all that cleavage showing....
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Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 31, 2005 07:20 AM (ScqM8)
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I'll bet she makes great conversation.
Posted by: Carlos at July 31, 2005 11:24 AM (8e/V4)
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This blog had me in stitches. Bring on the Fatwa for my impure thoughts. When we conquer the Muslim world we could start a free love revolution again and have fun educating their poor oppressed women.
Posted by: Jester at July 31, 2005 08:10 PM (QKZX5)
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Wait, does this mean that now everyday will be like Sunday?
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 31, 2005 09:50 PM (02d/e)
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i am trying to get good girl muslim
Posted by: Mohamed at August 23, 2005 05:52 PM (btsyp)
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An Open Letter To CAIR
So you
managed to get Mr. Graham fired from his talk radio job.
Whoop de doo dah.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Despite your pathetic attempts, one simple fact remains.
You are the followers of the bloodiest "religion" ever to befoul planet Earth. Your holy book reads more like H.P. Lovecraft than anything else.
The prophet you exalt, Mohammed (Pig blood be upon his name) was a pedophile. He married, and had sex with, a 9 year old girl. Your prophet, Mohammed (Dog poop be upon his name) was also a pimp. Bet you didn't think that we'd find out what muta'a was, did you? Your prophet, Mohammed, when he was proselytizing (something Christians are executed for in your home countries) was considered a nutcase in his time.
This from my private email from one who knows:
When Muhammad
first got "touched" by Gabriel and was walking around
Mecca denigrating everyone's religion in Allah's name
(that's how Islam has been since the beginning), the
Meccan polytheists would diss him by calling him
"mudhammam," a play on his name which means
"reprobate, miscreant, lowlife," etc. Nice, huh? I
learned that in his biography (written 150± years
after his death), "Sirat Rasul Allah," by Ibn Ishaq
(ed. Ibn Hisham). Highly recommended book.
You don't have a religion, CAIR, you have a death cult. You don't like it? Tough shit. You had Yahweh, Christ, and even Buddha. You chose to follow Mohammed (gratuitous phlegm be upon him).
Bring it on, bitches, you'll still lose.
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Please forgive the subject change.
I see lights coming up the road, must be my fishing buddies. We will be leaving for Virgina Tourament in a few minutes. 1000 miles hauling the boat and all the excess gear everyone can never learn to leave at home. The Greyrooster and Charlie will return in 10 days. Wishing a good week to all lovers of this great nation.
I must say it has been so pleasant the last few days that maybe I will strart inviteing the patriots down for some serious fishing trips on me. Going to start entering the Kingfishing Touraments this year so will need plenty of new hands.
Luck to all and watch our enemies while I am gone. If anyone wishing to contact me the number is 6015901104. We have a satellite on the boat so # will ring there. How's that, Jerk ass Downing Street Moron.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 30, 2005 04:53 AM (CBNGy)
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hey rooster, where areyou going out of? I have been really wanting to get back down to Ocracoke...its tuna time!
Posted by: Mr. K at July 30, 2005 06:43 AM (VudXl)
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Get some Doc! Fu-- 'em all! Religion of peace - my a-s!
Rooster going dinky dao again.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 30, 2005 08:31 AM (Z6yVb)
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Why do we even allow organizations like this to exist?
Posted by: Jay at July 30, 2005 10:33 AM (BKqRl)
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It still boggles my mind, that with all the evidence of the problems Islam causes as it encroaches into places of differing religion, including Indonesia, Thailand and Sudan that anyone pointing it out would be fired, it's not like statistics, nor history are on that persons side.
For everyone that keeps blaming American policies for Islam aggression world-wide (I just saw a bunch of them on imdb.com debating "Over There") you have to wonder why then secular Governments that are not involved in any of the current wars are at threat from Islam, including most of Asia where Islamist groups attempt to over throw the Government in order to establish a Caliphate (good example Malaysia)
They don't want to return to the 7th century because they hate technology, it's because at that time Islam conquered and dominated countries and established their Islamic rule over everything they touched.
Posted by: dave at July 30, 2005 12:06 PM (DO6vD)
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Islam has destroyed,attacked and crippled more civilizations and cultures than any other religion could ever have....Persia, Egypt, Byzantium{Eastern Roman Empire} India,North Africa, Sudan, Phillipines, Malaysia and many others and it continues on to this day....Bush and/or America didnt start it all as America wasnt around 1400 years ago when Islam started on its orgy of desruction, rape,pillage and mass murder...oil wasnt behind it than as now one new it was even there so what was Islams excuse 1400 years ago to do what it still does today????.....islam in the Middle Ages was probally the only time that it was generally peacefull and was involved in what passed as technology back than...yes, Islam expanded on mathmatics and astronomy{first pushed to the fore by such great civilizations as the Greeks and the Persians} some medicines but suddenly seemed to freeze in time and hasnt made any usefull advances or discoveries since...now the Western world is in the 21st century while almost all of the Middle East is still stuck in the 14th century and they sure do act like it and yet for some reason blame it all on the West...yes, the Middle Ages west was stuck in its backwards ways because of many church doctrines....world was flat, earth was the center of the solar system, sun revolved around the earth and such nonsence....but thanks to many famous and inteligent men, the west was able to more into the age of enlightment, The Rennasiance, and has been going ever since...Islam put its religion on the backburners and it advanced while the west was stuck in the Dark Ages, now the worm has turned, and Islam has caused all of the Middle east to be in its dark ages all because the religion of the Middle east is suddenly all important and dammned be advancement...and they blame the West for their own doings and refuse to admit and see why they are backwards.....some day they might wake up by how long will that take and is the West able to wait along for how ever long while Islam restarts its destructive ways
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 12:33 PM (9gFP6)
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Mad Dog, may the fatwa of the CAIR descend gently upon you. Ha, they know you want a fatwa and they won't dish it out, the bastards!
I want me one of those fatwas too. How can you get one? I'm surprised the idiot imams haven't issued a fatwa on all us Americans. Oh yeah, OBL did issue a fatwa to kill all Americans. That's good enough for me, Mad Dog. I think we ought to issue a Crusade against them. Heh!
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 30, 2005 02:06 PM (DDXXI)
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Seriously, if you get a fatwa before me I'm never speaking to you again.
Posted by: Rusty at July 30, 2005 02:11 PM (eawoe)
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Islam needs to have Total War declared against it...maybe that will get their attention and they will take the West seriously....CAIR are just following Sun Tzu's book "The Art of WAr"...after all deception is a part of war and Islam stays alive this day by deception or it would have been obliterated decades ago
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 02:42 PM (9gFP6)
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Eh, I'd settle for "docile pupil of a monkey monk."
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 30, 2005 02:48 PM (Kr6/f)
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Just to push the issue home that Jihad is the wrong way to go:
Signs that ALLAH is not on your side:
http://fredfryinternational.blogspot.com/2005/07/signs-that-allah-god-is-not-on-your.html
Posted by: Fred Fry at July 30, 2005 03:11 PM (RPY7Q)
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Islam has been the religion of hate and murder for 1,100 years. It still is. When the MSM/DNC calls it the "religion of peace" they are doing their best Big Brother act. (see Orwell). It is a lie. It has been a lie since the first MSM America hater said it.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at July 30, 2005 04:08 PM (LbyCD)
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July 29, 2005
High-octane Nightmare Fuel.
Dave of Garfield Ridge
calls a short "educational" film he links to the most surreal film ever. It's that for sure, plus revolting (and NSFW due to shouted euphemisms for "wiener"): it's Planned Parenthood's take on how to educate the mentally handicapped about sex--from ugly-plaid-and-geeko-glasses 1975.
Other revolting things, besides the ones Dave mentions:
The idiot whistling and strumming soundtrack, like the gibbering voice of Azathoth across the cold void of space.
The bleached-out Poop-o-color print that all cheap-ass educational films and filmstrips seemed to come in. The IMDB entry says it was filmed in color--Yeah, it's in color: brown. Except for the twin black abysses of skeevy-looking narrator Richard Dix's pupils. Had the color just leached out of the film by the early 80's when I saw these things? No not this specific one, doofus, but films like this: Death Zones! (scroll down)
The funny thing is things really did look kinda colorless in the 1970's, according to my memories of that time which are, like most of America's, kinda hazy. (I have a good excuse.)
The vacuous nitrous-oxide smile on the face of the mom who catches her impaired son en flagrante and wishes him well. I've had a cult member try to recruit me and she was wearing that same beatific lobotomized smile the whole time.
The horrendous moral relativism of the 1970's and Planned Parenthood in particular...no values! Don't teach them any values! There are too many values out there already! You'll just confuse them! (Some things never change.)
Actually I'm surprised Planned Parenthood, given their eugenics-movement roots, didn't advocate a stricter control over the reproductive functions of the mentally handicapped.
How did our nation survive those dark times?
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Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.
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Wow, a link *AND* a mention of Azathoth!
Tierra del Feugo, my friend.
(P.S. Speaking of filmstrips, I kept waiting to hear the "beep" in the film telling me to advance to the next exciting frame!)
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Planned Parenthood would have been heartily endorsed by Joseph Mengeles.
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Do-it-yourself Festival of the Fatwas: beach burka bikini bingo edition
Have an interesting post? Just link to this post and send us a trackback and we will issue a fatwa against you. A lot of people keep sending me stuff not realizing that I'm on vacation. Here's your chance to participate without me having to do any actual, you know,
work.
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Anarchy Blogging: Jawas Reveal High School Cliques
Punk's not dead, oh no! Hat tip Professor Chaos. Any other Jawa authors should feel free to post their results here. I have a feeling we're a regular Breakfast Club of bloggers.
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I thought you were more the choir boy type. Wus.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 29, 2005 05:44 PM (XW18o)
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I'm the Butters of the punk world.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 29, 2005 05:49 PM (rZHNS)
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 29, 2005 05:52 PM (XW18o)
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Poppycock! According to this pole, I should have been walking around in white-face in high school.
Damn it, I liked the Exploited!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 29, 2005 06:28 PM (q6t3C)
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Oops--Freudian slip--"poll."
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 29, 2005 06:28 PM (q6t3C)
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Looks like a MoveOn.org get together...
Posted by: Mr. K at July 29, 2005 06:43 PM (VudXl)
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Rusty was like the only Reaganite punk. I heard that in high school his girlfriend had a "Sonny Bono for Mayor" sticker on her car.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 29, 2005 06:46 PM (XW18o)
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damn, me a punk rebel? I was a damn jock...that test is fucked up.
Posted by: Mr. K at July 29, 2005 07:04 PM (VudXl)
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At least I don't have a Black Flagg sticker on my Cadillac.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 29, 2005 07:16 PM (rZHNS)
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There's nothing wrong with a Black Flag sticker on anything.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 29, 2005 07:18 PM (XW18o)
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No? How about a Black Flagg sticker on a hybrid Toyota?
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 29, 2005 07:19 PM (rZHNS)
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Yeah, that's be posing. I think those things come with Kerry/Edwards stickers anyway.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 29, 2005 07:21 PM (XW18o)
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Can't take it so category for longhaired Redneck Rock & roll hickboy.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 08:05 PM (D3+20)
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I scored Goth which is a complete load of bull.
I should have scored a geek looking at my answers, even though I was not one.
Like it matters.
I spit on your Fatwa,
FRED
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hey now, where the hell is the metalhead category???.....mine turned out to be a loner, but i think of myself as a metalhead still, even at my age...hey man Anthrax and Suicidial Tendencies rule!!!
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Thanos35: Most metalheads were stoners, no???
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Brother Against Brother
Chapter Eight of 'Brother Against Brother' is up at Euphoric Reality. I am not just posting their links because they purchased an ad or because I am friends with both writers, but the story is intriguing.
A quick summation is in order for those just tuning in. A team of special forces in Vietnam fought off an insurmountable number of NVA while the base was hesitating to bring in reinforcements. The men who survived though have been attacked by a fellow Vietnam Veteran who has accused the group of war crimes. The authors of Euphoric Reality, who were first contacted by the accusers, have painstakingly done their research into this story and found out the accusers have no leg to stand on.
The entire 'Brother Against Brother' episode is a lesson in why we should honor our heroes and why we as critical-thinking adults should look past what is told to us. Do yourself a favor and start from Chapter One if you have not done so already.
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What needs to be remembered here it that even the great Marine Corps has a few social outcasts that can never be one of the brotherhood. So they turn into crybaby, little finks that try to get there 15 minutes by lying on others braver than they.
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British Terror Sweep
These are my notes on today's sweep for the suspects in the July 21 failed terror bombings. All four prime suspects are believed to now be in custody. Of note is that police believe there may be a fifth bomber because a fifth device was found in a rucksack dumped on open ground at Little Wormwood Scrubs.
Here's a brief status of the investigation:
- SWAT teams in dramatic raids at several W. London locations with no reports of shots fired
- Muktar Said Ibrahim, 27, arrested today in London for attempting to blow up the Number 26 bus in Shoreditch
- Ramsi Mohammed (possible alias) arrested today in London for attempting to bomb Tube near Oval
- Hussain Osman (aka Osman Hussain), 27, Somali-born naturalized Brit, was arrested today in Rome for attempting to bomb Tube at Shepherd's Bush
- Yasin Hassan Omar, 24, arrested in Birmingham last week for attempting to bomb Tube near Warren St.
- Two unnamed women were pinned to the ground and arrested today at Liverpool Street Station in London. Both were described as dark-skinned, 20-ish, Muslims with full headscarves. One woman ran when police asked to see inside the bag she carried.
- Total terror suspects currently in custody at 20.
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Sky News
BBC
Guardian
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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Not many "Timothy McVeigh-types" among this lot, eh libs?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 29, 2005 06:01 PM (q6t3C)
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No mormons? Amish? Mennonites?
Posted by: Carlos at July 29, 2005 06:44 PM (UWO6N)
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I just knew there'd be some Quakers involved. I just knew it. Must be a coverup somewhere.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 29, 2005 07:37 PM (0yYS2)
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You would think the dummy's would learn not to run. Can be dangerous as the real Brits are pissed off.
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Olbermann trails the Jawa on the Death Blow story
Keith Olbermann has "
discredited" the Osama-poisoned-my-cocaine-and-all-I-got-is-this lousy-T-shirt theory that
we hashed out (snicker) a couple days ago. And if Keith Olbermann says it, you can put in the bank and slap your mama.
I pretty much peed on this story this three days ago. Can I have a damn show on MSNBC now?
I say pretty much because while I'm 99% sure this didn't happen, there is always that crazy one percent possibilty of just really crazy, entropic stuff going down. And there's maybe a two percent chance that something vaguely related to this happened--Hezbollah was busted with their own coke ring in South and North America, remember--and got distorted and passed along to the DEA through intelligence channels. Or perhaps through an arrested Colombian desperate to save himself from prosecution and making up crazy crap to string the feds along.
Wouldn't be the first time that happened. You guys ever heard of the "Dark Horizons" story? Basically, a busted Nicaraguan coke dealer in San Francisco claimed he was running coke for the contras and was under CIA protection. It blew up into this whole big deal and was promptly shown to be screwy...debunked by an independent commission. Then the reporter who broke the story was fired and later shot himself. That doesn't stop this story from remaining an article of faith among the conspiratorial left who are grasping at straw men for reasons to hate our country.
What's irritating to me, though, is the way Olbermann "debunks" this. More below the jump:
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If ever there was a conspiracy black box story this is one. Can't prove it wrong can't prove it right. It just adds to the drug war chatter and Patriot Act intention to make everyone a terrorist. Everyone that is not a right wing protestant evangelistic never drank a beer in my life cause my mommy wouldn't let me I love the government sheep. Total propaganda and that is who it's for. I'ts for the consumption of those who don't know better. Your first post says it was unlikey you were on the right track there. Just another peice of crap in the meomory pile of crap see it's not the memory hole it's the memory jumble of crap that drowns out everything else. It's a lot easier to fill the world with crap than to actually destroy and event.
disclaimer Just because I disagree with see-Dubya does not mean I intend any disrespect. I'll save that for the newspaper who started this whole deal. The NY Post.
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Good points. Olberman is something of a grandstander, and although he's pretty glib the fact that he doesn't seem to know what "debunking" means, suggests he's not as smart as he appears. Casting doubt is not the same as debunking, unless you have no idea what a dictionary is for.
Posted by: Demosophist at July 29, 2005 03:43 PM (IbWE6)
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I thought I might fill in for our missing conspiracy nuts. How did I do?
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:46 PM (D3+20)
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Howie,
What are you saying? You say "does not mean I intend any disrespect" but you spend half your para above using loaded language to convey that exact intention.
Yeah, the story is silly on a couple of different fronts. I am sure quite few would have thought it silly to hijack some airplanes and run 'em into various buildings.
What's your take on the CIA-Crack conspiracy?
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BTW,
I came here to say Olbermann is not just an idiot but a monumental one at that. What is this with formers sports guys?
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Conspiracy head off:
You mean the Freeway Rickie issue Right. Same deal you can't believe him he's a crack dealer doing life. Can't believe the CIA either. Can't believe the reporter he's dead. Possible maybe, likely no, Solution never. Just like this one. The doubt is what feeds the story.
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I posted the disclaimer becuase I did not get a chance to post an opinion on See-Debya's first post. In fact I debated if I should post on this one. See-Dubya has been very good to me. So since it was his post and after I read my rant I thought It was prudent to do so. It's not really critical of See-Dubya it's critical of the fact that this story did not end up on the cutting room floor to start with. Plus it's Friday.
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Who to trust? A good question. I still somehow trust the CIA more than the Clinton/kerry/hug a terrorist set.
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Olberman is more of WardChurchill.Inc./MTV/ComedyCentral we're hip, cool, witty "I really hate my parents" numbskull mentality.
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The MSM War On Christians 'And America' - They've Gone 'Off The Charts' In Bias (Updated)
First off, the issue here isn't about Christians, as much as what's become a tool of the MSM to propagate liberal views and liberal appeasement of Islamists, to the detriment of the continued existence of the American way of life. And of course it's not just against Christians, but our very civilization, it's just that Christians have become the MSM's favorite target as the so-called professional journalists do their utmost to facilitate the Islamization of America! Silence the Christians (
the Sunday people) and the
door is open for sharia and fullfilment of Islam's "
Twenty year plan for America. "
As with most Christian Americans, I just can't help but notice the ongoing American press' love of Islam and it's embracement of everything anti-American and anti-military while allowing and promoting every deceitful feint of Islamic leaders to hide their true agenda - world domination and turning the White House into the Muslim House.
Today, an AP/CBS image in their hyped-up, dhimmi-article (which many Americans will get suckered into believing), "Muslim Scholars Condemn Terror," the AP and CBS made it over the top, insulting every American that ever fought(and those that are continuing to fight) for his/her country, and every American citizen that believes in freedom, tolerance, and our way of life.
[AP/CBS image - A 'Crescent and Stripes']
My very first thought when I saw the above treasonous image, what Clarity and Resolve refers to as the "new and improved Islamic American flag (with optional prostrated Muslim everyman in Western attire and Kufi skull cap), courtesy of al-Sociated Press/CBS," were the words, "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS." (notice the Muslim encouragement of repealing our right to bear arms so we're defenseless should they feel the need for their jihad to turn violent or so their terrorists don't have John Q to deal with)
The AP and CBS, the so-called professional journalists, really got suckered into this fatwah thing, a fatwa issued by none other than the Fiqh Council of North America, headed by Muzammil Siddiqi, past-president of the Islamic Society of North America. As it's head, Siddiqi has advised American Muslims to participate in the political system - BUT ONLY IN ORDER TO CHANGE AMERICA INTO A MUSLIM COUNTRY... AND WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT ALLAH'S RULES HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED IN ALL LANDS, AND ALL OUR EFFORTS SHOULD LEAD TO THAT DIRECTION (Infiltration, p 21., Nelson Current 2005). [much more to come on this and al-taqiyya in future posts]
Aside from the 'professionals' getting suckered, which I took no pleasure in, seeing the AP/CBS image symbolizing the defeat of America by Islamofascism, invoked a deep sense of disqust, and made me think of two images of my own that represent the exact opposite of what the AP and CBS have in mind for America:
For the benefit of the AP and CBS, THE ABOVE IMAGE IS THE TRUE AMERICAN FLAG - AND THERE IS NO MUSLIM ON IT AND THERE IS NO CRESENT WHERE OUR STATES ARE SYMBOLIZED.
As the AP/CBS image appears in print and online - the guys in the below image, and thousands like them, are fighting for the right and freedom of the AP, CBS, and the rest of the Islamofascist-supporting, Islamist-appeasing, ostrich-imitating American press to continue helping our enemy, the moderate-pretending Muslims and the Islamist agenda, to throw sand in our eye as they continue, with the help of the MSM, their ongoing culture and publicity war supporting the Islamication of our country, to the detriment of the religious freedoms of non-Muslims everywhere:
In the above image, two of our very special troops doing a very special job are risking their lives multiple time a day (I know this for a fact because I speak to the guy on the right with the rifle - several times a week), to bring a halt to the spread of Islamofascism around the world - while the likes of the AP, CBS, and the rest of the liberal MSM continue their own special assault against the very foundations upon which our nation was built.
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If it wasn't for hate crime laws, they'd be getting there allah barking faces tenderized by American fists on the street.
Posted by: Andre at July 29, 2005 02:30 PM (mfvPa)
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Hmmm, what would have been the reaction by the MSM if a flag was shown with the Star of David or a cross in place of the crescent...
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Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 02:58 PM (D3+20)
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It is interesting that the media conciders the headline
Muslim scholars condemn terrorism with Fatwa as a sign of good faith, It is not like this edict came from the real source of power, Saudi Arabia.
what headline I consider to be a better sign of good faith, and would have more impact to me would be:
Mosque informs local authorities of intent of radical members to recruit terrorists
of course, this has not happened?
Posted by: dave at July 29, 2005 02:58 PM (DO6vD)
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It is also interesting that the media has made several comments in regards to the fast arrests made by the British police of the terrorists, often saying
"Maybe we should send these guys to find Osama"
You would almost think that the American police and FBI have not arrested one Terrorist, except I guess a greater percentage of the American arrests have been PRE attack, you know before the bad guys kill citizens.
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I saw a post on some blog(I can't remember which one) where they quoted a poll that supposedly said that Americans were just as afraid of evangelical Christians as they were of fundamentalist Muslims.
If true, then the MSM has succeeded in its quest to demonize Christians and promote the Islamofacists. The media is truly the enemy.
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I also have a very good idea why Mr. Afeeg, who is the author of an article advocating the repeal of the Second Amendment, wants to do away with gun ownership in America. It has nothing to do with controlling terrorism, I can assure you. No, it is far more insidious. He obviously wants to disarm the public in an attempt to make it easy for his buddies(the Islamofacists) to take control of this country.
His arguements are groundless. Are people in Egypt allowed to own guns? Weren't they just attacked by terrorists this past week. Can the British own firearms? They have been attacked numerous times in the past month. So you see, the Muslim writer of this article has another agenda. I'll leave it for you to work out what it is, but I already know. And may I say he has cheek to be telling us about our Constitution. He must go to school at Berkeley. The bastard!
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dint we americans learned the vietnam leson?
why are we in irak for? their democratisation? come on dont underestimate our inteligence. if there where a 9 11 connection with sadam hussain ok or if there realy where WMD mabe, but u know there where none. so why are we there for? halliburtons, oil companys, military industy.
I acuse bush that he made osama bin laden more powerfull and gave him a new theater of operations to show the world how his folowers can kill american soilders ( about and avarage of 2 a day every day ). and also giving the terrosist more arguments to enlarge their ranks. is this wining the war on terror-----no way. it is counter production.
now we american are in the midel of this war with no victory insight.
lets get out and put bush and his elite gang into history like what they realy are, the worst american adminitration in history.
i was a republican till afganistan. after irak i was not. i also voted for bush father against clinton. now im anti bush anti republican but not anti american its so sad we are in this situation but lets not forget who put us here......bush rumsfeld wolfowits and the rest of the gang and companies that profit from war. shure war is justified some times but not this time.
irak war not in my name
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Michael, we sure did. We will not abandon the people of Iraq like we did the people of Vietnam. Michael, you're not a Republican and I have my doubts as to whether you are an American citizen.
Either way, we will not abandon our military like we did in Vietnam. The MSM no longer controls the media, so we can't fall in that trap again.
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Al-Pazeera (aka the AP aka The ASSociated Press) is up to its old tricks.
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Good article. I've just one nit to pick. Mr. Vitagliano's use of Andy Rooney as an example of biased against Christians is an "air-ball".
If Rooney is an atheist, of course he thinks religion is nonsense. That's what makes him an atheist. Does being atheist automatically qualify a person as being biased against Christians? It does not. I need only introduce myself as a negation. I am atheist. My wife, son, sister and mother are all Christian, however. I may think their belief system is nonsense, but I am quite biased -
for them. I love them and frankly, since my belief system lacks supporting evidence every bit as much as theirs does, it's easy to not denigrate them for those beliefs.
If you ask me what I think of their beliefs, I'll tell you quite candidly, just as Rooney did. Having a negative opinion about just one aspect of a person's character does not influence my opinion of that person's whole character.
And, if you are a Christian that thinks atheism is a bunch of nonsense, no offense taken. I expect you to think that way. After all, my wife, son, sister and mother all do.
Posted by: Doug Purdie at July 29, 2005 05:45 PM (00DOn)
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Thanks, Doug, but I beg to differ that the belief system known as Christianity lacks "evidence." Read the Gospels, sworn testimonies. Or read an account of Padre Pio.
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YBP - there is evidence but not in words written by men. But, if there is a God and his words were ever spoken on earth it was by JC in the sermon on the mount.
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"Muslim scholars condemn terrorism..."
And OJ wants to find the real killer.
And Michael Jackson likes women.
And Michael Moore is not a scumbag.
And the MSM is credible and unbiased.
And Hillary Clinton has America's best interests at heart.
Et cetera ad infinitum...
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 29, 2005 07:46 PM (0yYS2)
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Michael: You are wrong concerning no victory in sight. You are only informed by the liberal/only report what is bad media. I get a report every fews days direct from the guys there. When my son can't call (he is a company commander) one of his men calls. Anywhere from E-1 to O-4 so I think I get a real take on whats happening close up.
The terrorists Islamofacists are becoming quite unfashionable by the ordinary people on the streets. Sorry to say this but the best thing the idiots ever did was consentrate their killing on innocent local citizens. Even at police and Army recruiting depots the volunteers continue to grow inspire of being targeted.
Even a muslim has enough sense to tell the good guys from the bad guys if given enough time. I THINK!
One thing I have learned is that this is not a Iraqi war. This is a war of Pro-choice against the members of a religion that believes in world conquest by any means. Freedom, bravery, mercy, understand, live and let live are words or ideals they understand.
Imagine going into a Christian/or any other church and having the preacher say it is alright to kill, bomb and injure innocents to spread their religion through fear.
I think history will show that we are at least 1000 years more advanced than the muslim hippocrits.
This war is not against a people it is against a religious philosophy. And a stinking one at that. This nation, with a few others has decided for the good of our children and grandchildren to take a stand now. And rightly so. We should be proud of ourselves.
America once again shows its bravery in taking a stand against what is wrong.
Vietnam was an interesting thing. I was there twice. America financially broke the back of the communists as they spent billions on the war. Simply stated we could spend billions without affecting our economy. They couldn't. Did we lose? News for you kid. We never lost a major battle
I heard the same liberal bullshit in the 1950's. The same insane shouts of we will bury you from the commie leaders. Whose still standing? America. As always.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 30, 2005 04:20 AM (CBNGy)
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Greyrooster is wrong, we did lose the Vietnam war, because
we did abandon South Vietnam. Now he is right, that the U.S.
military did not lose the war or any major battle either. What I
think is funny, when the Philippines got all high and mighty and
wanted our military bases out of Philippines, Vietnam was chompin
at the bit to get us to come back to them. They finally woke up
and realize, American Dollars are good.
Posted by: Butch at July 30, 2005 09:49 AM (Gqhi9)
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"THE ABOVE IMAGE IS THE TRUE AMERICAN FLAG - AND THERE IS NO MUSLIM ON IT AND THERE IS NO CRESENT WHERE OUR STATES ARE SYMBOLIZED."
Amen to that
This is an outright insult to every American. Everybody ought to see this, when are the mainstream media dogs going to stop holding CBS back and/or get their heads out of their ases and start reporting?
It's a big deal, I want to see some very big heads roll.
I'd like to note that I'm a regular reader of CBS News online and consider most of their reports interesting and informational despite their bias leaning. I never considered Rather Gate such a big deal despite the fact that Rather goofed up big time. But he did apologize and gets to live with getting mocked for his un-journalism.
Posted by: Ren at July 30, 2005 11:22 AM (a9tRx)
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We Celts have a very old saying - "Actions speak louder than words."
When they stone the terrorists in Lodi, instead of supporting them, I will believe they are against terrorists. Believe me I do not plan to hold my breath.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at July 30, 2005 04:37 PM (LbyCD)
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Hey Michael, if aethiests are so passive and inclusive of others' rights, why is has my city of San Diego been UNDER ATTACK for the past 15+ years by one "offended aetheist" and ... wait for it...
the ACLU over a war memorial at Mount Soledad that just happens to feature a Christian cross, the symbol of the majority and founding religion of American.
I think we all can see through your false logic and realize that aethiesm is the problem and ACLU is the instrument of this godless aression.
Posted by: San Diego Shawn at July 31, 2005 01:19 AM (zo9Jb)
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Hey, at least they're not burning it!
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Condi interview.
I got home in time last night in time to catch some of
Jim LehrerÂ’s interview with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. I must say Condi was much better than in other recent interviews IÂ’ve seen. That incident in Sudan the other day seems to have built a fire under her. She appeared relaxed and ready to move forward. Gone was the tired expression and canned answers. She looked refreshed. Pretty good interview especially the subject of GWT. Look out Hillary this may be the first lady President of the USA. SheÂ’s got you beaten by a mile.
When are we going to stop making excuses for the terrorists and saying that somebody is making them do it? No, these are simply evil people who want to kill. And they want to kill in the name of a perverted ideology that really is not Islam, but they somehow want to claim that mantle to say that this is about some kind of grievance. This isn't about some kind of grievance. This is an effort to destroy, rather than to build.
I think IÂ’m in love. You go Condi. She even talks about the Bolton nomination and I detect that she is not Mr. BoltonÂ’s biggest supporter although she does give the polite answer considering her position. There's lots more at the above link.
Well, that's unfortunate and we -- what we can't be is without leadership at the United Nations. I can tell you, Jim, that I'm spending an awful lot of time these days preparing for the high-level meetings that are going to take place in September where all of the world's leaders are going to be here to talk about refreshing the United Nations after 60 years.
The United States needs to be active in that and we have a good team at the UN, but we need our permanent representative to the United Nations.
A quick review of Mr. BoltonÂ’s problems.
Although the split has largely been along party lines, one Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio, has joined Democrats in opposing Bolton's nomination.
Ed at Captains Quarters has more.
IÂ’ve got to say IÂ’m with Captain Ed. While Bolton is the right type of person IÂ’m not sure he is the right person for this position. The perception of him is that he is a jerk. I would hate to see all CondiÂ’s hard work ruined by this guy. IÂ’m pretty sure the President will stick with him. So Mr. Bolton should withdraw himself. I donÂ’t think he can or will be productive in that position. For sure abroad people have a bad perception of him. We need a strong personality there but IÂ’m pretty sure he is not it. My party should not waste political capital on this, is a mistake. Mr. Bolton is a loose-loose for my party and for America. A recess appointment will get the President what he wants but will also enforce the bad perceptions that this Casey Jones run we are on created. Maybe Trade him for Roberts would be good. We also have to consider that appointing this guy on a recess appointment will make the Roberts nonination that much harder. Which is more important?
Hat tip Omnipundit:
Actually I started this in the am until events took over.
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Are we going to start withdrawing certain nominations or back off our convictions because it might make something else "more difficult". I certainly hope not. It's that sort of deer in the headlights spinelessness that is all too prevalent in many GOP leaders now.
Boltons's a hard ass and has undoubtedly ruffled a lot of feathers in his years of public service, fine with me. I'll take that personality profile in the UN over the lilly livered Danforth style dimplomat all day long.
Citing Voinevich's decent as an indication of other than unaninimity of support in the Senate GOP ranks is truly laughable. The "cryer" has been nothing less than a monumental horses ass in the entire process and is a perfect example of the week kneed wobbly RHINO I referred to earlier.
Bolton is Bush's man and unless there is some bonafide credible reason why he shouldn't have his choice I have yet to see it.
The assertion that "all Condi's work" could potentially beruined is truly a sophomoric concern. Both State and the UN ambassador are on short leashes, the White House is calling the shots as they should.
"For sure abroad people have a bad perception of him" That statement is silly enough as to not warrant comment. Suffice it to say if true it's a definate resume' enhancer in my book.
CQ is generally spot on but this time someone over there's been smoking socks as for the rest of the analysis... well... PU
Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2005 02:20 PM (3al54)
Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2005 02:25 PM (3al54)
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Hey I knew I would be like way in the minority but appointing him is like using a steam roller to squash an ant. Dissent is total cool we should just think about it. I predict the President will stick with him and do the appointment because that's just how he is. I predict he will make an ass of himself in the position. Kind of like I just did. Then the good will that Condi has built up lately will be spent. But no we should not back down on all appointments just like we should not push every one as far as we can take it. They have to be wieghed with the benefit VS capital spent to get them in. To waste capital on Bolton that could be used for Roberts is wrong. The Roberts nomination is far more important in my estimation. Im looking out for tomorrows Republican not just todays.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 02:47 PM (D3+20)
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Also I did not ask for anyone to back down except Mr. Bolton. He sucks and Mr. Bush will stick with him but the fact that he will allow Bush to spend so much on him when clearly he is a jerk just proves
he is a jerk
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 02:56 PM (D3+20)
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He may well be a jerk, but then again that should make him fit right in where Bush is trying to send him. As to removing Bolton as a choice having any effect on the BDS crowd, no freaking way. They hate Bush and anything that even smiles in his direction, nothing will change that except perhaps for the passage of time.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 29, 2005 02:59 PM (jPCiN)
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So because the left behaves badly that is an excuse for us to? The man's rep is crumbling. Drivin that train......
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:03 PM (D3+20)
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Yeah, gotta go with TR and DG on this one, Howie. North Korea once called the man "human scum", and I judge a man by his enemies.
Plus he's super smart and an able diplomat and overqualified for this job. (Note that I said diplomat.) I'd encourage you to read and maybe even link to one of these posts of mine about him:
http://patterico.com/2005/06/10/3165/see-dubya-boosting-bolton/
http://patterico.com/2005/06/05/3133/what-daf-ab-said/
http://patterico.com/2005/06/01/3115/bolton-bulldog-bow-wow-wow/
http://patterico.com/2005/05/31/3109/eleven-wmd-shipments-stopped-in-the-past-nine-months/ (If you only read one link check this one)
http://patterico.com/2005/04/23/2911/boltons-new-accuser/
We need forceful, competent representation in the UN. This is the dude.
Posted by: See-Dubya at July 29, 2005 03:37 PM (UrEUX)
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Thanks See-dubya I'll check em out. Maybe I'll change my mind. Looks like we'll get to see how he does anyway.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:52 PM (D3+20)
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OK, I see you are a big fan. Still wrong job for him in my opinion. But like I said he is going to get the job anyway. We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time. The next congress may toss him anyway making his tenure very short. He'll get seven months at least to prove himself before the next congress is seated. Time will tell. I'm afraid the recess appointment will leave a bad taste in the voters mouth come Nov.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 04:01 PM (D3+20)
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IMHO the best UN Amb we ever had was Jean Kirkpatrick and most of the of the rest of world disliked her as well. She was a b!tch and she took crap from no one. Bolton riminds me a bit of her.
Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2005 04:10 PM (3al54)
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So let's go over to Iraq and say Y'all be nice to the minority Sunnis that's how democracy works. Then let's come home and act like a bunch of stubborn asses. Then you wonder why they all think we are hypocrits. It's not the far right that my party needs to worry about. They are in the bag. It's the middle. It's the Texas Democrats. The Kentucky Republicans same difference. It's the reasonable people we are going to loose. I sit right next to several Pensacola Christian college graduates. They are as right as you can get. I love em great people. But there is more to the party than them. We have placed all our eggs in their basket. We depend too much on their support. We discount the support of the middle which is critical and will be critical if we are to keep the far left at bay.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 05:00 PM (D3+20)
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The middle, you mean like the John McCain, Lincoln Chafee middle?
Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2005 05:08 PM (3al54)
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Howie,
You miss the point. I doubt that 5% of the people in the country know who Bolton is. And the other 95% could care less. The UN ambassaduer is an inside baseball pick. If he doesn't measure up, Rice will can him.
Sec. Rice is the face of the US foreign policy, and I like that face.
Condi 2008, sounds good to me. Yes I agree, she will make Hillary look like a mental midget and win as well.
Posted by: bill at July 29, 2005 05:23 PM (QJhZY)
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I like Condi every which way, but she's "mildly" pro-choice.
I suppose I could vote for her as a running mate, but that's a deal-breaker for me.
Otherwise, you could not shut me up about how great this woman is.
Posted by: See-Dubya at July 29, 2005 05:41 PM (UrEUX)
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Just to make clear some of my earlier ranting. Yes there will be few if any seats up for grabs this Nov. Baring a senator or two dropping dead and special elections or appointment by a Gov. Next Nov there will be a bunch. But as I understand the rule this appointment is only good for this session. Correct me if I'm wrong here but a
new session starts in Jan and that is when Mr. Bolton will be taken up again. Gee I hope it's not 19 months instead of seven. For me to decry Gov Rob (No I'm going to look up his name again) going over the Legislature on Stem cells and to also decry Senate rule changes to get appointments past the minority. Well I can't turn around now and say. Gee go ahead George. Really I like most of the appointments Bush has made. A few are iffy, Roberts is not a lady well except maybe for his hair but otherwise I find nothing wrong with him. Some corporate ties kind of take some of the glow off. I just can't stand this guy. If you ask me his earlier work was fantastic but maybe locked in an office coming up with ideas and strategy is where he belongs. Heck maybe it's were I belong. But as long as I can speak I will. What the heck. One thing for sure my fellow bloggers here have posted enough bio on Mr. Bolton so we can all get a good dose of who this guy is. Got some more reading to do now don't I.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 07:58 PM (D3+20)
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It's 19 months, Jan 2007
Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2005 08:47 PM (3al54)
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If Bush recess appoint Bolton, he stays put until the next congress is seated. That would be Jan 2007.
Posted by: bill at July 30, 2005 10:04 AM (QJhZY)
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W.House gives strong signal on Bolton appointment
You've heard of someone having a conniption.....well if you've never seen one keep your eyes peeled because you're about to see several from the likes of Reid, Kennedy, Durbin, Schumer, Clinton, Pelosi and others.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) The White House gave its strongest signal yet on Friday that President Bush will soon bypass the Senate and appoint John Bolton to become the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.
Senate Democrats have stalled the nomination of Bolton, a favorite of conservatives, over accusations he tried to manipulate intelligence and intimidated intelligence analysts to support his hawkish views while the top U.S. diplomat for arms control.
Bush can bypass the Senate and give Bolton a "recess appointment" when the Senate begins its August recess this weekend. Bolton would be able to serve until January 2007, when a new Congress is sworn in.
Asked about the possibility of a recess appointment for Bolton, White House spokesman Scott McClellan gave a strong hint.
"We do need a permanent representative at the United Nations. This is a critical time and it's important to continue moving forward on comprehensive reform," McClellan said.
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I'm sure he isn't on top of his TPS reports...
Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 29, 2005 01:08 PM (5NVVZ)
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Yeah this is gonna happen if I like it or not.
Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 02:58 PM (D3+20)
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Yup Howie, I think it will. If it does, a year from now we'll chat on the subject. I'll bet good money you will have had a change of heart.
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