July 29, 2005

Olbermann trails the Jawa on the Death Blow story

Keith Olbermann has "discredited" the Osama-poisoned-my-cocaine-and-all-I-got-is-this lousy-T-shirt theory that we hashed out (snicker) a couple days ago. And if Keith Olbermann says it, you can put in the bank and slap your mama.

I pretty much peed on this story this three days ago. Can I have a damn show on MSNBC now?

I say pretty much because while I'm 99% sure this didn't happen, there is always that crazy one percent possibilty of just really crazy, entropic stuff going down. And there's maybe a two percent chance that something vaguely related to this happened--Hezbollah was busted with their own coke ring in South and North America, remember--and got distorted and passed along to the DEA through intelligence channels. Or perhaps through an arrested Colombian desperate to save himself from prosecution and making up crazy crap to string the feds along.

Wouldn't be the first time that happened. You guys ever heard of the "Dark Horizons" story? Basically, a busted Nicaraguan coke dealer in San Francisco claimed he was running coke for the contras and was under CIA protection. It blew up into this whole big deal and was promptly shown to be screwy...debunked by an independent commission. Then the reporter who broke the story was fired and later shot himself. That doesn't stop this story from remaining an article of faith among the conspiratorial left who are grasping at straw men for reasons to hate our country.

What's irritating to me, though, is the way Olbermann "debunks" this. More below the jump: He talks to two terrorism experts--Steven Emerson and Evan Kohlmann, great guys both, solid on War on Terror stuff, both been linked by the Jawa Report from time to time--who think this is nuts.

That's not, in itself, a debunking, but a criticism. That doesn't prove this is true or false. It might change your beliefs about whether it's true or not, but that's different from showing why it actually could have happened or did happen or did not happen or could not have happen. Even though I happen to agree with them 99% on this, our opinion does not make it so or not so. Feelings and thoughts don't change objective reality. It is a great fallacy of the left, usually, that because many smart people think a thing (or in this case two smart people plus me), it must be so. Well sometimes it is, sometimes it ain't.

If you want to debunk this story, you need to prove it false, not merely unlikely. And the way to do that would be to A: try to review the documents that gave rise to the original NY Post story or B: try to track down "sources familiar with the case" to confirm or disconfirm it (as the Post reporter did.) or, of course, C: dig up an internal memo from the Ochoa brothers' accountant that confirms it. The DEA denies it, at least, so that's one bit of new info. But the Post put its name on the line to say that this is plausible, so it's worth more investigation than just asking the experts what they think before we call the story dead.

Hat tip to Reidblog.

Posted by: seedubya at 03:03 PM | Comments (11) | Add Comment
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1 If ever there was a conspiracy black box story this is one. Can't prove it wrong can't prove it right. It just adds to the drug war chatter and Patriot Act intention to make everyone a terrorist. Everyone that is not a right wing protestant evangelistic never drank a beer in my life cause my mommy wouldn't let me I love the government sheep. Total propaganda and that is who it's for. I'ts for the consumption of those who don't know better. Your first post says it was unlikey you were on the right track there. Just another peice of crap in the meomory pile of crap see it's not the memory hole it's the memory jumble of crap that drowns out everything else. It's a lot easier to fill the world with crap than to actually destroy and event. disclaimer Just because I disagree with see-Dubya does not mean I intend any disrespect. I'll save that for the newspaper who started this whole deal. The NY Post.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:35 PM (D3+20)

2 Good points. Olberman is something of a grandstander, and although he's pretty glib the fact that he doesn't seem to know what "debunking" means, suggests he's not as smart as he appears. Casting doubt is not the same as debunking, unless you have no idea what a dictionary is for.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 29, 2005 03:43 PM (IbWE6)

3 I thought I might fill in for our missing conspiracy nuts. How did I do?

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:46 PM (D3+20)

4 Howie, What are you saying? You say "does not mean I intend any disrespect" but you spend half your para above using loaded language to convey that exact intention. Yeah, the story is silly on a couple of different fronts. I am sure quite few would have thought it silly to hijack some airplanes and run 'em into various buildings. What's your take on the CIA-Crack conspiracy?

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 29, 2005 03:49 PM (69ZRZ)

5 BTW, I came here to say Olbermann is not just an idiot but a monumental one at that. What is this with formers sports guys?

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 29, 2005 03:50 PM (69ZRZ)

6 ooh i Ddid good.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 04:06 PM (D3+20)

7 Conspiracy head off: You mean the Freeway Rickie issue Right. Same deal you can't believe him he's a crack dealer doing life. Can't believe the CIA either. Can't believe the reporter he's dead. Possible maybe, likely no, Solution never. Just like this one. The doubt is what feeds the story.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 04:16 PM (D3+20)

8 I posted the disclaimer becuase I did not get a chance to post an opinion on See-Debya's first post. In fact I debated if I should post on this one. See-Dubya has been very good to me. So since it was his post and after I read my rant I thought It was prudent to do so. It's not really critical of See-Dubya it's critical of the fact that this story did not end up on the cutting room floor to start with. Plus it's Friday.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 05:06 PM (D3+20)

9 Who to trust? A good question. I still somehow trust the CIA more than the Clinton/kerry/hug a terrorist set.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 30, 2005 03:54 AM (CBNGy)

10 test

Posted by: test at July 30, 2005 10:42 AM (xZJPK)

11 Olberman is more of WardChurchill.Inc./MTV/ComedyCentral we're hip, cool, witty "I really hate my parents" numbskull mentality.

Posted by: test at July 30, 2005 10:51 AM (xZJPK)

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