September 22, 2004
Zarqawi Releases Video of Kenneth Bigley Begging for his Life
Kenneth Bigley hostage video and images are below.
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UPDATE 10/08: Kenneth Bigley is confirmed dead in Iraq. Reuters claims sources in Fallujah have confirmed the Kenneth Bigley has been beheaded. The initial reports of Bigley's death, first reported here, turned out to be false. However, several independent sources now confirm his death. Updates, news, information, links to video, images, and pics can be found at the MAIN PAGE or by CLICKING HERE to 10/08 report.
UPDATE 9/25: Website Claims British Hostage Ken Bigley Executed, Doubts raised about website's credibility. Probably a hoax. Click link above for more iformation.
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In an 11 minute and 5 second video just released, British hostage Ken Bigley begs for his life.Below you will find links to the video and images of Ken Bigley's pleas. Link to video.The video, released by Zarqawi's Tawhid wa Jihad group on the Ansar message board, shows a visibly nervous Bigley, clad in an orange jumpsuit, making an appeal to the British and American governments.
Images from the video:
On the video Bigley is heard begging Tony Blair to meet the terrorists demands. He says that the "terrorists are not asking for much. All they want is their wives, their daughters, their mothers." He also begs the citizens fo the UK to contact the government. Unfortunately for Mr. Bigley, the terrorists believe, falsely, the the Coalition is holding many female prisoners. They are not. Only two females are being held, both with ties to the Saddam Hussein regime. Do you see why I believe al Jazeera ought to be bombed? Because they spread the kind of propaganda that the terrorists believe. They actually believe that the US is there to rape their women, kill their children, and imprison their mothers. I feel truly sad for Mr. Bigley. I would probably beg for my life too had I been in his place. God bless your soul and speed it to heaven.
The last images in the video are pure propaganda. The first reads "Does a British civilian worth anything to Blair?"
The second "Will he try to save this hostage or will he not care?"
The last "Do leaders really care abou their people?"
The terrorists are attempting to blame Blair for this man's imminent death.
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you're just too damn fast Rusty!
Posted by: Digger at September 22, 2004 02:45 PM (FYEx6)
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Hehehe he has help.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 22, 2004 02:54 PM (D39Vm)
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Okay whos got Tony Blair's phone number , he must act now on this message
Posted by: Dee at September 22, 2004 02:56 PM (f288R)
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Yep, all Blairs fault.
Posted by: Digger at September 22, 2004 03:03 PM (FYEx6)
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Fast but I need all the help I can get.
Posted by: Dick at September 22, 2004 03:04 PM (hu9UN)
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An unimpeachable source tells me that G.W. Bush is secretly funding the terrorists as part of his presidential re-election campaign. Oh sorry, that was a CBS source...
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 03:09 PM (vQTt9)
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Rusty, other video is up.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 22, 2004 03:10 PM (D39Vm)
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Zarqawi is showing he is still alive by using his normal set up method.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 22, 2004 03:12 PM (D39Vm)
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it say new video release under the topic is there 2 videos
Posted by: Dee at September 22, 2004 03:16 PM (f288R)
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The mentality of "free the women or else" is borne out of the somewhat compassionate view of "leave the women, children and the elderly out of it. They may hesitate just for a moment more hopefully.
Our Ken is a whispy haired old man. I have my fingers crossed for the old boy.
It believe the pictures of this grey old man has disturbed something here in the UK, just can't put my finger on it. I think it's the elderly thing?
Cheers.
Posted by: jon at September 22, 2004 03:17 PM (IfsuI)
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The mentality of "free the women or else" is borne out of the somewhat compassionate view
That women are property, to be kept in burqua's, and stoned if they show an inch of flesh?
Right, THAT compassionate view.
Posted by: Brian B at September 22, 2004 03:30 PM (OnnW3)
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This is sad.....because you know he knows its not going to save him. I live not to far from Jack Hensley's family, maybe 15-20 miles and its all they have talked about on our radio talk shows today. That poor family...the media wont leave them alone and it pisses me off. I couldnt watch all of this Kenneth Bigley video cause it just breaks my heart to know that its going to do no good.
Posted by: ShaniFaye at September 22, 2004 03:37 PM (d9scq)
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Ive just email Mr Blair for what its worth, he to must feel helpless
Posted by: Dee at September 22, 2004 03:48 PM (f288R)
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Nice to see that all agencies are working hard at tracking these snake's to their holes ... 3 years ago we nearly hit the head honch by tracking satalite feeds and feed packet routing ... someone please tell me why its so hard to do it for these jackasses when at worst their sending the feed first to a another middle east country for uploading?
Posted by: Salamander at September 22, 2004 03:49 PM (F26eZ)
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Ive just emailed Mr Blair for what its worth, he to must feel helpless
Posted by: Dee at September 22, 2004 03:51 PM (f288R)
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Brian B I was thinking the same thing...just like that article that was posted here about that poor Iranian woman asking the judge to tell her husband to only beat her once a week....I think those guys are afraid that whatever women we have will figure out they arent being treated all that great by their OWN men and wont wanna go back
Posted by: ShaniFaye at September 22, 2004 04:08 PM (d9scq)
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He mentions that the Iraqii's are "kind people".
Who just go about kidnapping then beheading people?
I'm sorry Mr Bigley but the people of Iraq may be kind but the people currently holding you at their mercy are most definitely not kind.
Unfortunately, it is these people that we are trying to rid from Iraq in order that the "true" Iraqii's may live peacefully.
Please let these monsters deal with Ken as they have the others swiftly (because they will do so eventually anyway) and put an end to this grisly interlude.
Then let us hunt down and melt these bastards.
Posted by: Red Devil at September 22, 2004 04:09 PM (eoSl9)
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how many American civilians are now doing business in Iraq?
Posted by: grimm at September 22, 2004 04:22 PM (PaGJf)
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Nuke the whole of Iraq...just nuke them all now, and let God sort it out!
Posted by: Sarlene at September 22, 2004 04:55 PM (44F8l)
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Exactly Brian B.
They care not for women or the elderly but still use the notion to legitimse barbarianism.
Old school behaviour of a long bygone era.
Posted by: jon at September 22, 2004 05:06 PM (IfsuI)
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When I was undergoing SERE training (survival, evasion, resistance and escape) prior to my training as an aircrew member aboard the B-52, we were taught propoganda in all its forms. As much as I feel for the Briton, he is nothing more than grist for the propoganda mill. What the captors want is exactly what's happening: soften the resolve of those who are watching, try to make them feel their situation is hopeless, etc.
One thing the military teaches you about propogranda is that it's just enough enough trough wrapped in lies to make it seem credible. The only course of action is to not give in. The leaders of the involved countries must stand by their convictions and not yield to the propoganda that is being released.
I weep for the familes of the hostages that are killed and it fills me with a righteous rage, but the absolute worst thing that can be done now is to yield. If we yield, then they know they can control us with the very real and visceral reaction of fear.
You don't deal with the school yard bully by giving him your lunch money, you deal with him by beating his ass so senseless he no longer has the desire to fight.
Do not yield, Mr. Blair and Mr. Bush, stand by your beliefs and press on with your plan.
Do not yield.
Posted by: B52GUNR at September 22, 2004 05:41 PM (isG+j)
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What do any of you know about Islam or the Middle East culture and politics? To think of these beheadings as anything other than an act of desperation is absurd. Probably very little or next to nothing from the content of you responses. As much as you all resent the fact that the captors use this propaganda for their own devices, you cannot admit that it affects you to the point where your emotions take over and rationality goes out the window. To somehow advocate nuking all the middle east is absurd and just as deplorable a suggestion as those actions that you condemn! Remember: The Iraqis are not Britons or Americans; we cannot sit here and compare apples to oranges. May God help us all.
Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at September 22, 2004 07:36 PM (Tz+uN)
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The UK Radio is reporting 2 Italian women beheaded in Iraq?
1 bunch of loons demanding special treatment for women, another doing the exact opposite.
Posted by: jon at September 22, 2004 07:44 PM (IfsuI)
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After watching these gruesome videos, Kerry still wants to fight a more sensitive war? LOL. Please.
Iowa Electronic Markets has been a reliable indicator of true election outcomes from times past and Kerry is sinking.... and fast!
http://128.255.244.60/graphs/Pres04_WTA.png
How's the view from way up there, Mr. President?
Posted by: J.D. at September 22, 2004 07:47 PM (auCnB)
Posted by: J.D. at September 22, 2004 07:51 PM (auCnB)
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I think a westerner in iraq should go out, capture an iraqi, film him beheading the guy, and post it on the net.... then say, it will carry on if you carry on beheading....
yes... i am a cunt, but i have my views
Posted by: nikkisixx at September 22, 2004 08:35 PM (dIn8W)
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Yeah, it be me.
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 09:34 PM (Ptwa7)
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It's ironic how the media throws a fit when we see an image of an Iraqi prisoner wearing a dog collar.This heinous, barbaric act done in the grand old tradition of Sunni Islam is not going away.In fact, al- Zaqawri read a direct quote from the false prophet, Muhammed right after calling George Bush an "arrogant Christian pig".The quote was short and simple: "Just as you (Christians) embrace Life, we (Muslims) embrace Death..."
This goes a lot deeper than American foreign policy in the Middle East and the occupation of Iraq (Which I still don't agree with), it lies in the hard and simple fact that Islam has once again launched a worldwide war with western values.Anything Christian is a direct target.They are forever bitching about the Crusades, yet it seems nobody has the guts to bring up the bloody Muslim Conquests which LED to the Crusades.Islam has more blood on it's hands than any organized religion in the world, Communism, and the Third Reich combined.Nobody mentions the fact that in Islam, they are in a constant state of jihad.The more educated always bandy the very word "jihad" about, and claim that it means "Struggle".What they DON'T tell you is that the "struggle" is against all those who are non-Muslims and those who are polytheists.Speaking of polytheists, did you know that between the years 1000 and 1525, the Muslims were responsible for the slaughter of 80 million Hindus between what what is now Afghanistan and India?In fact, the Hindu Kush Mountains are named Hindu "Slaughter" in English.
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 09:37 PM (zUVpQ)
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...and don't get me started on Kosovo.
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 09:42 PM (zUVpQ)
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What do any of you know about Islam or the Middle East culture and politics? To think of these beheadings as anything other than an act of desperation is absurd. Probably very little or next to nothing from the content of you responses. As much as you all resent the fact that the captors use this propaganda for their own devices, you cannot admit that it affects you to the point where your emotions take over and rationality goes out the window. To somehow advocate nuking all the middle east is absurd and just as deplorable a suggestion as those actions that you condemn! Remember: The Iraqis are not Britons or Americans; we cannot sit here and compare apples to oranges. May God help us all.
Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at September 22, 2004 07:36 PM
I know a little about Islam and it's perverted desire to take over the world until it has established a worldwide Islamic state under a caliphate, and I don't necessarily agree with nuking the entire Middle East (you can't with Israel sitting right in the middle of it all), but after all of the events of the last three years, I feel that we may have no recourse but to drop a single nuclear bomb over any non major Arab city (perhaps Najaf) and show these Islamic Fascists how forceful we can be just to prove a point.Don't be misled into believing that these people can be "rationed with". These shocking videos tell the whole story...
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 09:55 PM (zUVpQ)
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OK, so the Muslims around the world are trying to take over via jihad. IT'S A HOLY WAR, A DUTY TO THEM, KINDA LIKE CHRISTIANS TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK. Any non Muslim is an Infidel, and any Infidel who won't convert is to be put to the sword. It's not just the radical Muslims, this is in EVERY Koran. They want to emigrate to your country, live at poverty level lonfg enough to reproduce repeatedly, and sway the elections to elect a Muslim government, so you have to live by the law3 of Shia!! No alcohol, women aren't to be educated or allowed to show their faces in public, marital infidelity is punishable by death for females, but males can get away with it all day long, etc., etc., etc., all day ,long!! Again, it's called Jihad. It has no nation beyond the nation of Islam. No borders, as the bordersd of YOUR country will do just fine!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 09:56 PM (2TGju)
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The UK Radio is reporting 2 Italian women beheaded in Iraq?
1 bunch of loons demanding special treatment for women, another doing the exact opposite.
Posted by: jon at September 22, 2004 07:44 PM
It's not surprising.What do you expect from a religion that condoned the shooting of women at football stadiums in Afghanistan, or the stoning death of the Nigerian woman for the mere accusation of commiting adultery, or in Iran, where a public hanging of a 16 year-old girl occured last week?Need I draw an entire list going back to the 7th Century?
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:01 PM (zUVpQ)
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OK, so the Muslims around the world are trying to take over via jihad. IT'S A HOLY WAR, A DUTY TO THEM, KINDA LIKE CHRISTIANS TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK. Any non Muslim is an Infidel, and any Infidel who won't convert is to be put to the sword. It's not just the radical Muslims, this is in EVERY Koran. They want to emigrate to your country, live at poverty level lonfg enough to reproduce repeatedly, and sway the elections to elect a Muslim government, so you have to live by the law3 of Shia!! No alcohol, women aren't to be educated or allowed to show their faces in public, marital infidelity is punishable by death for females, but males can get away with it all day long, etc., etc., etc., all day ,long!! Again, it's called Jihad. It has no nation beyond the nation of Islam. No borders, as the bordersd of YOUR country will do just fine!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 09:56 PM
That sums it up...
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:03 PM (zUVpQ)
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Heaven on earth, or WHAT? The Muslims have been decapitating their enemies in Chechnya (See what they did to the schoolkids?), Pakistan (DO a web search for Kashmir, the GREATEST unpublished injustice in the world, at present!!), Borneo, Israel (The obvious), The former Yugoslavia, and WAY more!! Coming to YOUR neighborhood when they get stronfg enough in the rest of the world, GAURANTEED!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:09 PM (UmoYT)
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I think a westerner in iraq should go out, capture an iraqi, film him beheading the guy, and post it on the net.... then say, it will carry on if you carry on beheading....
yes... i am a cunt, but i have my views
Posted by: nikkisixx at September 22, 2004 08:35 PM
Oh, you have GOT to be kidding!Do you know how fast Kofi Annan and the rest of the UN would be on this? Picture a pile of cow dung and then imagine a swarm of flies.Then of course, the ACLU would be filing lawsuits like there was no tomorrow.Worst yet, Kerry WOULD win the election...
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:09 PM (zUVpQ)
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The Nepalese had the right idea. Think globally, act locally. You take our people hostage, we don't wait to see what you want, we burn all the mosques, and THEN ask what you got to say!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:14 PM (Y5yMj)
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Heaven on earth, or WHAT? The Muslims have been decapitating their enemies in Chechnya (See what they did to the schoolkids?), Pakistan (DO a web search for Kashmir, the GREATEST unpublished injustice in the world, at present!!), Borneo, Israel (The obvious), The former Yugoslavia, and WAY more!! Coming to YOUR neighborhood when they get stronfg enough in the rest of the world, GAURANTEED!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:09 PM
Fred, you are preaching to the choir on my part.They did a statistic recently about the demographic shift that is occuring in the United States which paints a positively bleak picture of us in the year 2020.Now with the current attack that the liberal media has been waging against the Catholic Church (3 or 4% of all priests are actually accused of molestations), combined with the growing unwillingness of America to hold on to it's Christian values and the rapid closings of churches nationwide, and the ever growing number of mosques sprouting up across the land, it is estimated by then (2020) that every major US city will have a Muslim majority population.So,how do you like your fellafel?
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:18 PM (zUVpQ)
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The Nepalese burned the mosques beforte they asked what the Muslims were abducting their brothers for. Think globally, act locally!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:20 PM (gi2GK)
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The Nepalese burned the mosques beforte they asked what the Muslims were abducting their brothers for. Think globally, act locally!!
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:20 PM
Where were Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright then?
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:23 PM (zUVpQ)
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Ken, thank you. We must prevail. I have too many ancestors who sacrificed too much for me to die anything BUT a free man.
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:23 PM
You are very welcome!I know what you mean.We are up against far more than radical Islam in the meantime.Have you noticed how "free" nations are adopting a more "Socialist" perspective on things?I mean, it's been happening right here on US soil for about the last 35 years...
Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2004 10:27 PM (zUVpQ)
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Brother! You are not alone. I didn't come here by myself, and when I leave, others watch. I'm old, but I didn't get that way by being naive. We live in the greatest nation that ever existed on the face of this earth. Some things ARE worth dying to pass on to the next generation, especially if you are old and terminally ill ,like me. I have been blessed. Throughout my life, my God (With a capital G!!) has presented me with opportunities to do small kindnesses to others, some of whom have turned out to be rather influential. Read what I say, and imagine that!! We are looking for more like us. The email attached to this is real. We're in the Northeast United States. You may have an idea of which I speak. Go with it. If it's not right for you, we'll let you know. There is a need. Paul Revere is long gone, but his purpose lives on.
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:42 PM (U3RjO)
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Hey Rusty!! My job title is too simple for someone as intelligent as you to figure out. Sorry for the trick question. I'm a fuckin' soldier. Dead simple. One old dogface. Glad to meet you. When they're all gone, I GUESS I'll be a civilian again, huh?
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:53 PM (AXcBv)
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History has taught us that appeasement only makes aggressors more aggressive. Satisfying terrorist demands virtually guarantees future acts of brutality. These people are not interested in the welfare of the Iraqi people. They've killed more Iraqi civilians and police with car bombs than they've killed coalition troops. These are the same people who will impose Shiara and brutalize the Iraqi people if they succeed in driving the coalition out of Iraq.
Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 04:08 AM (1KXSw)
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Ken Bigleys comments in the video about the people of Liverpool being special, We "scousers" as we are known throughout the world are praying for his safe return. If the inevitable happens and he is beheaded like his collegues, the people of Liverpool will react by wanting revenge for his murder. No muslim will be safe in the city and it will spiral out of control to other parts of this Country..Let us all hope it does not come to that...
Posted by: Rod Aubery at September 23, 2004 05:48 AM (TlmpI)
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geez...it took you 12 years to learn how to use a proxy server? Maybe that time would have been better spent learning how to effectively disagree with people...get a clue...name calling really doesnt work on intelligent adults...now let these people talk about the topic at hand and quite interupting like a 3 year old that has to use the potty..
Posted by: ShaniFaye at September 23, 2004 10:11 AM (RXjHU)
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I notice this thread has become extremely quiet now that the two Americans are dead.
It may be a foregone conclusion that the man from Liverpool, UK is about to die but I would have expected more from this blog/forum.
This unfortunate man who has now become a (worthless) pawn is about to be beheaded... and this time it really will be for nothing.
These idiots obviously thought this action could help release those two Iraqi women... but it has now become clear to them they it has not.
The kidnapping of Ken Bigley has proved futile and his death will mean little to them (the kidnappers), but a massive amount to those close to him.
It has been mentioned elsewhere on this site but somehow, all Westerners in the region MUST be fitted with some kind of tracking device and offered the best protection the combined miltary forces can provide.
It sickens me to think that these three men were taken by just ten men... admittedly heavily armed, crazed lunatics but with adequate protection, this senseless murder could have been prevented and ten nutters killed in the process.
Posted by: Red Devil at September 23, 2004 06:49 PM (VaXL5)
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A lot of the slowdown has come because I banned most of the people stirring up trouble. We call them "trolls" around here. A lot of people are posting to other articles I've written. You can scroll through them at the main page. http;//mypetjawa.mu.nu
But I think that tracking device is a great idea.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at September 23, 2004 07:29 PM (JQjhA)
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Brother! You are not alone. I didn't come here by myself, and when I leave, others watch. I'm old, but I didn't get that way by being naive. We live in the greatest nation that ever existed on the face of this earth. Some things ARE worth dying to pass on to the next generation, especially if you are old and terminally ill ,like me. I have been blessed. Throughout my life, my God (With a capital G!!) has presented me with opportunities to do small kindnesses to others, some of whom have turned out to be rather influential. Read what I say, and imagine that!! We are looking for more like us. The email attached to this is real. We're in the Northeast United States. You may have an idea of which I speak. Go with it. If it's not right for you, we'll let you know. There is a need. Paul Revere is long gone, but his purpose lives on.
Posted by: Fred at September 22, 2004 10:42 PM
Fred, I didn't see any E-mail attachment.Could you try it again?Better yet, can you E-mail it to me?
Posted by: Ken at September 23, 2004 07:49 PM (zUVpQ)
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TO ROD AUBREY: Quote"Ken Bigleys comments in the video about the people of Liverpool being special, We "scousers" as we are known throughout the world are praying for his safe return. If the inevitable happens and he is beheaded like his collegues, the people of Liverpool will react by wanting revenge for his murder. No muslim will be safe in the city and it will spiral out of control to other parts of this Country..Let us all hope it does not come to that..."
The tragic thing is, there are idiots in the UK who will retaliate and attack mosques/muslims which will be playing right into the hands of the terrorists. God, as if we are not already divided enough on whether we should or should not have gone to war........
I am living out of the UK at the moment but I am watching closely the developments in Iraq and the hostage situation. I just wished these murdering animals would put Mr Bigley and his family out of their misery. I don't mean that to sound trite. What I mean is they certainly know how to torture people. It doesnt bear thinking about Mr Bigley's current mental state and what must be going through his mind. Oh, this is such a mess this war. The frightening thing is, there are going to be more Mr Armstrongs and Mr Hensleys and Mr Bigleys.
Posted by: ascotinewzealand at September 24, 2004 05:32 AM (PeyrW)
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Sickening brutality on both sides. History contains so many precedents, but no one ever learns nor ever will.
Posted by: richard lacey at September 24, 2004 06:41 AM (Qj5bI)
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Hey all, you guys want to help a brotha out??
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/047301.php
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 24, 2004 02:29 PM (JQjhA)
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Maybe the women hostages from iraq should be beheaded and video taped that way they know how it feels and then the video can be sent to their families.
Posted by: trish at September 25, 2004 12:16 PM (DyZ9G)
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full back army... then NUKE him
Posted by: SID at September 25, 2004 12:28 PM (on8oK)
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OH my god... Did we have all this trouble when Democrates and Bill Clinton were here ?! Guess not...PLease, for the love of America, for the love of iraquis, for the love of all theses hostages being executed, for the love of the world. Dont vote for Bush ! I mean think about. In a 4 year spawn, the face of the world has changed completly with that monkey and teamates. U.S.A being attacked , why ? Its an empire that steps on anything to get power and money just like the case was with the romans in the old times...( They're empire ended by the way ) We had no trouble with Saddam in power, he was taking care of the country( Of course he was an evil man but its worse now ). Anyways hope that bush gets away and peace will come back in this broken world.
Posted by: joe at September 26, 2004 12:48 AM (jS/er)
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I find your healine that Mr Bigley has been killed as tastless, tacky and VERY FUCKING SICK. It is now Sunday 26th September, and there is no confirmation of this death, yet you have been riding this cheap sick headline looking for hits on the 'hope' that this man will die, so you can get more hits.
The only hit I would like to see a sick fuckhead like you get is a machete in the throat, you cheap fucking sicko.
Posted by: Me at September 26, 2004 02:42 AM (M48Fr)
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Hey all you Americans – You have more filth in your own country than the whole remainder of planet earth.
Try cleaning up your own place before dictating to the rest.
How many murders do you have in the USA every day. In most other countries it makes the headlines when someone is murdered as itÂ’s not the norm. Not yours, itÂ’s so common it doesnÂ’t even get a mention. Think about the mass murderers youÂ’ve had alone, they are way too numerous to mention. Your court rooms are clogged with the scum. No one deserves to have there head sliced off, but be real everyone what do you expect when you turn up in a country who now hates you so much, and why? Let me see could it be because you murdered their men, women & children, destroyed their land & homes?
Your military has raped & tortured, you hold many of their people in prisons, guilty only by association.
You are all outraged with these gruesome beheadings, as are the rest of us. But are you any better – what’s this Electric Chair thingy?
ThatÂ’s pretty Barbaric donÂ’t you think?
We all know there was no weapons of mass destruction,. Oh but there was OIL, Oh the OIL.
Posted by: Graham Wells at September 26, 2004 09:39 AM (D5Lm+)
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i to live a couple of mile away from kens home town of liverpool, i find it sickening to think that we have these kind of people in the world. i am only 17 but am ashamed to live in this world,if it was my family or anybody elses im sure we would want tony blair to release them women and save ken, but as he said it is out of his hands, even if mr blair wanted to release these women he couldnt as the americans have him, WE CAN NOT GIVE IN TO TERRORISTS!!!!! if we do just imagine what they would do next they'd start hyjacking planes again and then kidnap 4 people and then 5,6,7,8 etc. i also do not believe that they will kill ken now, as they have had plenty of time to do this as they know we wont release the evil that they want!TERRORISTS DO NOT THINK RATIONALLY! the reason they have not killed him yet is because they do not know what to do now! PURE EVIL THESE PEOPLE ARE these are the people that should be beheaded not a poor innocent man like ken
Posted by: lisa at September 26, 2004 02:52 PM (I30xD)
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As an American I had first support the Iraq war. WMD's were said to be in Iraq by the U.S, British, and Russian intelligence agenicies. We had flawed intelligence and a mistake was made. Sure secure oil, a more friendly govt was part of the plan. But let me state this: America is the sole superpower. It could do alot worse in the world like Mongolia, Germany, and the USSR to name a few. Americans and our govt do want the best for Iraq and to think otherwise is illogical even if you think America entered Iraq with mistaken, even mailicious purposes. A mistake was made and now videos like this will remind us of this. It was an idealistic endeavor that must still be carried out no matter how grim the future may bare. I am an American and want what is best for the world, through my perspective.
Posted by: ian blase at September 27, 2004 05:59 PM (r/cdd)
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These countries have been beheading people for hundreds of years. Only now that the press has coverage of the beheadings is it hitting home. I try to be as open minded as possible. You have to realize that this is war, and in war terrible things happen. Innocent people will die. War is a necessary evil. Necessary? yes because we are human, and the human race has not yet advanced enough to realize that mass destruction and death is not the answer. Until we learn, we will have to continue to resort to the horrible things you have heard of in the media. SOME of you who have treaded the earth and have seen other coutries will agree that the United States is by far one of the best places to live. So my friends stand fast, straight and hold your ground...justice will prevail and the light of peace will shine one day .
Posted by: BloatedGoldfish at September 29, 2004 07:36 AM (mlvzq)
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P.S may every human on this planet from every religion pray for Ken Bigley and all non believers send positive energy to Iraq in the hope of his release. If this is not the case then pray and send energy for a swift, painless death.
God bless this world...... please!
Posted by: Mark5 at September 30, 2004 02:25 PM (Ya8Ah)
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"The only hit I would like to see a sick fuckhead like you get is a machete in the throat, you cheap fucking sicko."
lol, another hypocrite...probably american
Posted by: HYPOCRITE at October 08, 2004 05:07 AM (yIcgU)
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EVERYBODY HAPPY NOW???
R.I.P KEN BIGLEY
Posted by: Me at October 08, 2004 08:04 AM (C17ey)
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Muslims beware.........your time on earth is short. There is a 5.56 for every one of your stinking heads. Your"Lions " have butchered an old man with his hands tied behind his back. Something to be proud of huh?.......Count your last days Muslim scum.
Posted by: crusader at October 08, 2004 10:09 AM (r501C)
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R.I.P. Kenneth Bigley
Those bastards will not get away with these inhumane actions!
We WILL catch up with them and they WILL not scare us into submission as they intend to!
They're sick bastards!!!
Posted by: Claire at October 08, 2004 02:42 PM (JssvO)
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SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TOO CHARLES MANSON YEARS A GO WHEN ASK WHAT HE WOULD DO ABOUT IRQA HE SAID MAKE A PARKING LOT OUT OF IT
Posted by: enigma at October 08, 2004 03:39 PM (BZZK1)
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R.I.P Ken Bigley
Can the real Tony Blair PLZ stand down ......
Posted by: merc at October 08, 2004 05:18 PM (47obp)
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how the hell can tony blair and bush stand aside and let this go on .... i dont beleive there letting these people get killed for no reason.......what the hell is going on
Posted by: blondnsassy at October 08, 2004 05:43 PM (MrWBL)
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To Mr Billy Connerly
Are you happy now the deed has been done..Your comments on one of your shows last week where sickening you were trying to get a laugh out of a condemmed person..Let me advise you billy....Never try to come to Liverpool for the rest of your life..or you will be strung up by your BOLLICKS...LOWLIFE SCUM
Posted by: Rod at October 08, 2004 07:21 PM (lcruh)
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Please, people...don't empower these worthless bastards further by watching their sick videos. Don't you see that this is their whole point? To shock and to sicken decent people is their whole reason for being. God rest the noble soul of Kenneth Bigley, and have mercy on his traumatized family. Please don't play into the hands of these worthless sand monkeys by giving them one ounce of your time or attention. They are the very definition of scum...hell will be a resort compared to where they are going...
Posted by: Danny at October 08, 2004 08:11 PM (/JWFQ)
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Hey Graham (above),
Assuming you are from the UK (I am PROFILING YOU-
in what other country would a kid be named Graham? It's a CRACKER in the US)
I seem to remember reading somewhere in the history books that it was us Americans that stepped in and saved your British asses from Hitler way back when...but I'm sure the books are wrong and you would be right. Yeah, we're nothing but a bunch of barbaric, raping, murdering, torturing creeps with a terrible society and a penchant for sticking our noses where they don't belong. While you and yours stick your fucking heads in the sand, might I add. If the USA is so horrible, then why is every fucking illegal alien known to God and man over here getting MY job? At least we don't have a monarchy (I remember something about spanking your English asses then too). Now THERE'S an idea! A monarchy! Go CHARLES AND CAMILLA!!
Sorry bud, but you kinda pissed me off with your ignorant self...
Posted by: Danny at October 08, 2004 08:26 PM (/JWFQ)
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Dear Danny
Unfortunatlly my son's name also,I live 1 1/2 miles obove the USA border in Aldergrove British Columbia, Canada.
And yes you are confussed and have youre head up your ass as per normal with Americans.
America did not save the Britians ass in world war II, the Americans put off getting into the fray untill after Pearl Harbour Dec. 7 1941.......the war actually started in 1939 with out you.
Ah let us start with your sticking your nose in where it does not belong.
Can we say Noriega.... that fine gentleman from Panama (that now resides in a Florida prison) that was propped up for years by the CIA as they fiddled with the Republic of Panama for their own ends(the CIA)When they where finished they pulled the rug out from under him and baked him.
Then came Bin Ladin Rumsfeld propped him up against the Russians in Afghanistan fed him fuelled him with munitions and built him up to be the ultimate American puppet.
When the Russians ran out of gas and left Afghanistan so did the Americans with Bin Ladin.
Oops Bin Ladin did not forget, maybe he did not like it in the ass.
So how do you like it Danny?
Turn about is fair play.
Try Vasoline.
Normal
Posted by: Normal at October 08, 2004 09:42 PM (yVXTt)
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Ian Blase
You remind me of an old friend, we met when we were 13 years old I am now 53.
Sorry he is now dead at 46, he was so full of ideals and good and could not understand mans evil, alass he suffered from depression and committed suicied.
He was a good man ....but did not realize it.
Normal
Posted by: Normal at October 08, 2004 10:03 PM (yVXTt)
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I think it is all Blair's fault
? ? ? ? why didnt he just let them go? ? ? ?
Posted by: Kitten at October 09, 2004 09:14 AM (jVpoG)
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i think killing people is cool
Posted by: steve at October 09, 2004 10:16 AM (nF9A3)
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Hey normal (lower case),
I am kind of suprised at myself for even acknowledging your ignorant ass, but here goes.
Leave it to a canadian to chastize an American for getting involved! You guys are known for your input, your involvement, your concern, your salmon. What an example you set for the rest of democracy to follow.
Hey, thanks for reminding me about the Pearl Harbor thing. I forgot to add that we SPANKED SOME JAPANESE ASS TOO...after they aroused the "sleeping giant," I think was the name given. I suppose we were just following the canadinan example of head-up-the-ass syndrome prior to that, when Hitler was kicking English butt. And then we had to go and get all involved, damn it! (what an inconvenience--I wish someone would take a look at those canadians and do what they do!).
It's interesting to see the canadian spin on those history texts, mr. normal...maybe it was salmon poisoning.
I am PROUD to share a border with you canadians...maybe you will protect us if the Japanese or the Germans decide to invade...or Mr. Sand Monkey himself, Bin Laden. Hell, you're probably on his side!
Posted by: danny at October 09, 2004 11:41 AM (/JWFQ)
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Hi Danny
I dont wish to upset you in anyway shape or form but if you are anti British can I just point out some basic facts, can you tell me your native lanuage?...English I presume. If the Britsh Empire(as it was known) had not landed on your shores a few hundred years ago you would still be using Apache, Soux or crow..Enough of the banter now...The British and Americans have been solid allies for as long as any living person can remember. My Father served in the Royal Artillery as a RSM.(Regimental Seargent Major) in WW11 side by side with with the Americans, he told me that they were all a little flash, but they gave respect to whom they were fighting with.. Can I also add, could you tell me 1,Who invaded Iraq with the American Military? 2,Who sent specialist Firefighters to NY 9/11? 3,What nationality was the hostage who was beheaded in Iraq with two Americans?..The list is endless..I will give you three guesses..and two dont count..And yes I am PROUD of our Monarchy..Queen Elizabeth II, is the most RESPECTED woman in the world..That goes without saying..Please read those history books again....and show a little of the word your forefathers used in WW11...****RESPECT****
Posted by: Rod at October 09, 2004 04:13 PM (59n1R)
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For those who think Blair did nothing for Kenneth Bigley, please see: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2761-1302563,00.html
There was only ever going to be one outcome from this event... All hostages WILL be killed.
This group has never released a hostage to date and has beheaded every one of them. It had but one motive.... Publicity.
As I look around Liverpool today, I notice all races/colours/creeds in morning as one & I ask myself "what's changed, who won?".
Deepest sympathy to friends & family of Mr Bigley. R>I>P>
Derry,
Liverpool.
U.K.
Posted by: Derry at October 10, 2004 06:45 AM (5DWht)
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How about not invading a sovereign country illegaly in the first place?
Its pretty ridicoulous how "westerners" see this war as an attack on them, when they themselves have invaded and occupied a land that wasn't theirs, what can you possibly expect of a nation and its people when you attack them, occupy them and set up fake powerless dictatorial leaders to rule over them
Posted by: Mark at October 10, 2004 07:43 AM (vzlHc)
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Firstly Mark, I am not a 'Westerner' so don't try to 'pigeon-hole' me, it just shows your ingnorance to such matters, and I, like Kenneth Bigley, is not guilty of any war crimes at all..... least of all, invading another country. Are we, the innocent British, to take up arms and single out all muslins in England too for no other reason than association? (there is a hell of a lot of muslins living here and run their buisness here side by side up to now, many more then English living in iraq) So before you, or anyone else decides to spit venom, remember..... people like you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Derry.
Liverpool.
U.K.
Posted by: Derry at October 10, 2004 01:26 PM (5DWht)
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Rod,
I don't want to insult the English people, and I don't mean to insult you. However your compatriot, Graham, pissed me off with his bad attitude and his total disrespect of the USA. I get mighty tired of listening to how much the world hates us Americans...yet that doesn't stop the world from coming over here, up our butts, taking our jobs, enjoying our opportunities, making lots and lots of money, hating us all the while. However, I must say that a lot of the fault must be placed at our own government's feet for making it too easy for everyone and their brother to come here, legally or otherwise. Case in point, Muhammed Atta and his thug accomplices were welcomed with open arms. A bitter lesson learned, I am afraid. I am more afraid that we haven't learned the lesson, though, because they just keep coming and coming...
I really can't speak to whether QE II is a good egg or not, though. We Americans are a little perplexed that she has so many palaces and Bentleys while many MANY of her subjects go without the basic necessities. I think it's an American mentality...we did away with the idea of a monarchy, and that was good enough for us. If it works for you...you have my RESPECT.
No, I am not at all an Anglophobe. Please read my very first post (pre-Graham). I am sickened that Ken Begley was assassinated...it hurt just as much as the Americans. If I could get my hands on that miserable bastard who murdered them, I would choke the life out of him with my bare hands...I don't need a knife. I pray for the repose of his soul, and for peace for his poor mother and brothers. Iraq didn't deserve him.
Thank you for the distinguised history of your country standing on the side of democracy with the USA on so many occasions. And whatever your political tendencies, please don't ridicule or fault Mr. Blair for standing with us. EVIL must be dealt with, swiftly and severely. May God bless England for being on the side of righteousness, which WILL PREVAIL....
Posted by: danny at October 10, 2004 08:07 PM (/JWFQ)
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This are not people that one can reason with.
They don't care about human life. They want to
control the world according to what they see fit.
They are interested in peace and never will. They interpret the Koran as they see fit. They
thrive living a hostile world and want everyone death. They live in the middle ages and we must not allow them to take us back to those times. The whole world needs to get united and remove them from the face of this earth. As long as they exist we will have no peace. They are not the kind of people who can live and let live, they brain wash their kids from an early age.
Funny how this things didn't happen when Saddam was around and thats because he's just as ruthless as they are. They are a disease that its killing our planet and our humanity, like a cancer they need to be remove. All they want is and bring to this world is destruction, hostility and hate.
Posted by: lily at October 12, 2004 02:51 PM (xrS0p)
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PELASE
VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY
VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY VOTE KERRY
Posted by: joe at October 14, 2004 01:04 PM (jS/er)
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Could not all the intelligent and innovative computer genuises gather together and take a stand, hack the websites and other media that the terrorists are using to communicate and spread their propaganda, such as 'al Jazeera'
How hard do you think someone would try to find you for doing so.
Posted by: T L Williams at October 16, 2004 10:10 PM (ibG5h)
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please send me by email the video of the beheading of Kenneth Bigely.
Thankyou
Posted by: Nadia at October 18, 2004 01:31 AM (maxKt)
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i cant beleive they do that
but why???
Posted by: renelle martin at January 10, 2005 03:37 PM (8nLHo)
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what god would kill the innocent to sway the guilty maybe allah but not my god to all those people who blaim bush and blair, what do you think this world would be like if they let murderers dictate foriegn policies by beheading people on the internet, has anybody else notice that every body that hates america hates democracy but most want to live in one, the rest want to control one. thier videos dont scare americans, they only breed hate in us. if allah really existed why is every muslum nation a third world country (even the wealthy ones). ENVY BREEDS HATE! it's not a mystery why they hate us look how much god has blessed this nation. they see what our god has done for us and what thier god has done for them (i would be pissed to if i was a arab) murdering innocent people (or guilty) wont bring the wrath of allah (he doesn't exist) but it will bring the wrath of the USA (they know we exist)
Posted by: BRANDON DANLEY at January 21, 2005 10:23 PM (DARx0)
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hmm..this is quite interesting
Posted by: generic drugs at September 26, 2005 03:06 AM (eS7S4)
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sorry bit of a late starter to all this. just been watching some of these beheading videos and like everyone am appalled at what i saw. surely something must be done even at this late stage. I too am worried about this muslim "invasion". I live in birmingham, england but am considering moving to the country as my city is being turned into something of a muslim state. There are already certain no go areas for "non muslims". Dont believe me? Go to Alum Rock after 8pm you'll see what i mean. Whats it gonna be like in 10 years time when my 3yr old daughter is growing up? Does that make me a racist for wanting the best for my family? Que cera, cera.
Posted by: andrew.p at September 29, 2005 04:37 PM (5qyme)
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i hate the bastards that done this to all of the poor british people that they have beheaded and if i get a chance i will behead them but more slowly the cruel bastards we are to soft in this country
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