January 31, 2005
Ansar al Islam Claims British Plane Shot Down
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UPDATE: I knew it! 1920 Revolution Brigade claims downing of British Plane on Video. This is the same group responsible for the kidnapping of American Dean Sadek. (ht: Michelle Malkin)
10 are believed dead in the crash. Via Jeff Quinton this Times article:
The Ansar al-Islam group said in a statement on an Islamic website that its fighters tracked the Hercules aircraft, "which was flying at a low altitude, and fired an anti-tank missile at it".
The statement said: "Thanks be to God, the plane was downed and a huge fire and black clouds of smoke were seen rising from the location of the crash."
Established after the 9/11 attacks, Ansar al-Islam is one of IraqÂ’s older extremist groups and has been linked to al-Qaida.
On the face of it, I do not believe the report. Why?
First, Ansar al Islam has not been active in over a year. Unless the report is wrong and they mean Ansar al Sunna, which happens from time to time. The fighting remnants of Ansar al Islam seemed to have joined Ansar al Sunna. The only Ansar al Islam related activities in the past year have been fundraising and planning by a cell in Germany.
Second, wrong area. Ansar al Islam's base of operation was in Kurdistan. Ansar al Sunna has been operating in areas that were formerly Kurdish but which were 'Arabized' under the Saddam Hussein regime. The plane was apparantly shot down only 20 miles north-west of Baghdad which is in the Sunni triange but nowhere near al Sunna's normal base of operations.
Unless of course the terrorists were referring to this....
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Two readings on this:
1. The Lockheed C-130 can be equiped with CM technology (Chafe, Flares), and most of the times is for heat, and radar guided ground-to-air munitions. The lack of any countermeasures "signatures" on the video recording could be:
A. The weapon was not a autonomous ground-to-air weapon, but an non-autonomous weapon used in an un-orthodox fashion (anti-personal, or anti-tank wepaon).
B. Lack of countermeasures onboard
C. Crew / CM system failure to acknowledge launch of an autonomous munitions.
2. Footage shot of mutitions being expended, then footage of crashed aircraft being added on to get required PR. If a munition of that size would hit a C-130 in mid-flight there would be smoke and fire in the air as well as noticable debres falling ... even if it was a 1-1,000,000 chance hit on a fuel cell.
Posted by: Salamander at January 31, 2005 12:04 PM (V40IZ)
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As a former C-130 pilot, I would say the options A + C above would be the root causes as to why the plane was shot down. If it was an optically guided anti-tank missile, then reactive flares would be ineffective. But such an anti-tank missile would have a short range only useful against low-flying aircraft, which unfortunately the Brits were this day. If the crew didn't see the launch, then any reactive maneuvering wouldn't have been performed, thus the absence of any flares.
The damage an anti-tank missile would do to the C-130 would be devastating, probably many times more than the standard MANPAD. Remember, an anti-tank missile is normally used against heavily armored vehicles, which the C-130 is not. Hitting a fuel cell isn't the only way to take the Herc out, a lucky strike at the wing root could structurally weaken the airframe and take off the wing or a lucky shot into the cockpit, and that is all she wrote. Either way, these terrorist bastards got lucky.
Posted by: Craig D. at January 31, 2005 09:47 PM (f3XV4)
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12,657 Ansar Al-Islam militants killed so far, and only 1,598 American Forces killed - haha!!!
AMERICAN FORCES KILLS THE PRIMITIVES SUNNI's LIKE SMOOSHING LITTLE ANTS !!
Posted by: Brian Moreno at May 30, 2005 06:37 AM (RATdR)
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Religion of Peace Uses Child With Down's Syndrome as Suicide Bomber
Via
Matt Cardens this
WaPo report:
"A handicapped child was used to carry out a suicide attack on a polling site," al-Naqib said. "This is an indication of what horrific actions they are carrying out."
He gave no other details about the attack, but police at the scene of one the Baghdad blasts said the bomber appeared to have Down's Syndrome.
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This is the true face of terrorism regardless of its intentions and suppossed reason for fighting. Use of those they can do their dirty work. I think the gruesome twist would be that one of the relatives with some radical views and confidence of the kid was contacted to "help" the cause.
These groups are the confidence men of the supreme kind: "Die for our cause, and you will be the hero of the people that never loved or cared for you". People ask why seemingly intelligent college grads do the work of terrorists: they are malliable and still naive, best example Italian and Japanese Red Brigade members who killed and carried out terrorist attacks for the palestinian's in the 60's, and 70's. White supremecy groups using the teens as their foot soldiers in poor and middle class working towns: young, educated enough to be dangarous, and naive. Also the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro system, highly educated people manipulated to carry out the dirty work of some suave crackpot.
Those insugents shown being carted off by their arms by the Iraqi forces should be looking forward to their treatment for extracting who their cohorts and handlers were ... one thing I must say is that middle eastern police forces have some very effective and harsh ways of helping you un-cloud that rusty memory ... and thats before they have even touched you yet.
Posted by: Salamander at January 31, 2005 08:46 AM (D4mP3)
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Yea man, like black muslims groups who teach young black people to hate whites. Terrorize neighborhoods and teach that other races are the devil. Groups like the black panthers, that invited young black kids to join in their hate campaigns. Black gangs like the bloods and crips who convince young black kids to kill and deal drugs. All in the name of racial justice. What a pity it is for these lame brains to influence young people to act out their hatred. Malcome X, Louis Farakhan, for years these hate mongers by deceit and trickery have recruited impressional young men to do their bidding. Just the way it is I guess.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 02:03 AM (DSbhO)
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Actually, the young man with Down syndrome was a Shiite who the family believes was taken by the bombers while they were voting. He was 19 years old and routinely wandered the neighborhood by himself safely, although he had the cognitive level of a 4-year-old. On election day, he apparently ran into the wrong people who used him. The bomb blew up when he was in the clear, and nobody died but him. The family heard the blast shortly after voting, and when they heard a "mongoli" was the bomber, they ran to the scene and found their son's head. According to stories I read, the family is broken up over the death of their son. No relative was involved in his death.
Posted by: downs dad at February 04, 2005 12:04 AM (SkEav)
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This is one of the saddest things I've read. Let's hopr the guys who did it were the ones killed by those Iraqi villagers.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 05, 2005 09:34 AM (ALptw)
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This is one of the saddest things I've read. Let's hope the guys who did it were the ones killed by those Iraqi villagers.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 05, 2005 09:34 AM (ALptw)
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Kuwaitis Kill 4 Terrorists, Capture 'Spiritual Leader'
The 'spiritual leader' of an al Qaeda linked jihadi group in Kuwait, Amer Khlaif al-Enezi, was captured in a 9 hour running gunbattle between the terror suspects and Kuwaiti security forces. Four suspected terrorists were killed in the battle. One of those killed was a Saudi national. The former imam's brother was taken into custody yesterday.
One civilian was also killed in the clashes.
Thousands of rounds were said to have been exchanged in the shootout.
This is the fourth clash in the past month between suspected terrorists and Kuwaiti security forces this month. Many of the suspected terrorists are believed to have been in transit from other Arab states to Iraq. Hundreds of foreign terrorists have been reported fighting the U.S. in Iraq.
More: AFP, The Scotsman.
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Hmmm, what to do with these goons...
I say start publicly shooting them on the streets of Iraq in order to send a message out there--anyone else caught wearing a ski mask and carrying even a slingshot will meet the same fate.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 01, 2005 08:33 AM (x+5JB)
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What a shift of terrrorism..quite mysterious. As to say that now Kuwait is the venue for terrorism for this month..Quite fishy!!! theories
Posted by: roopesh at February 01, 2005 01:03 PM (uEIrb)
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January 22, 2005
Zarqawi or bin Laden: Who is the bigger threat??
Two must reads:
Professor Chaos and
James Joyner.
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Both need to be hogtied and quartered...slowly....whenever they're caught. But, of course, they will be jailed and treated oh so nicely...not like the prisoners of Abu Ghraib.
Posted by: Laura at January 23, 2005 10:10 AM (ptOpl)
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I guess I don't grasp the motivation to "rank" these terrorists. During WWII were there arguments ranking Hitler, Hirohito and Mussolini? Indeed, right after Pearl Harbor, we through the bulk of our war effort at
Europe (for all the faux-whining from the usual leftists about the US not focusing exclusively on OBL)
Posted by: Darleen at January 23, 2005 12:11 PM (FgfaV)
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oh shoot... grammar error ... should be "we
threw the bulk of our war effort"
must.get.more.coffee.
Posted by: Darleen at January 23, 2005 12:17 PM (FgfaV)
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They rank as equally evil to me. We have to exterminate them all. But how? The libs keep crying, "we can't kill innocent civilians". Didn't most of them flee their countries when they knew there would be attacks?
Can't they make a general announcement of some sort, to evacuate the areas? Surely there are safe places for them to go, let other countries worry about them!
Then, we can snuff out Zarqawi, Osama, etc.
Posted by: Laura at January 25, 2005 02:28 PM (ptOpl)
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Well, if the Iraqi election doesn't work out, Hmmmm, does the term GENOCIDE mean anything . . Just kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!
If they can't vote themselves a Democratic government, there's no hope of peace, no matter how many troops we keep over there as peacekeepers. Let 'em keep their obsolete religion till the last . . And may the last come quickly!
geezzzz . . I'm really getting to be a hardass . . .
Posted by: large at January 26, 2005 06:30 PM (VRK2g)
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Zarqawi is the biggest threat.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 07:41 AM (D39Vm)
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Hey did we catch another Zarqawi aide? I saw a news flash on the TV, saying we are "closing in on Zarqawi"...of course, the lib's would have you think we wouldn't be in this "mess" in the first place, had Bush not invaded Iraq.
Same old shit.
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 02:50 PM (ptOpl)
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Zarqawi, Bin laden or both. Doesn't matter. Islam will produce more just like them. Islam must be held responsible for what it produces. Then it will stop. Modern, civilized societies must make the Muslim world understand this behavior will not tolerated. The governments, families, cities, parties, mosques or whatever that produces these killers must be held responsible. If the regions of the world producing these killers will not or cannot stop it, then it is our job to stop it. We are the victims of terror. We have a right to protect ourselves. Nations that don't believe this should be made to believe it. CAREING MORE ABOUT THEM THAN THEY CARE ABOUT US IS STUPID and will only prolong the inevitable. Better a few missles now than the big one later.
When we bombed Germany and Japan into submission did anyone realize that there were good anti war people in those countries? So don't give me that good muslim shit. Good muslims correct bad muslims. 25 million Iraqis could control a few thousand terrorists if they really wanted to. Nations/peoples are responsible for what comes from them. The good people of Germany and Japan died along with the bad because they didn't control the bad. It was their responsibility. They didn't take care of their business so we did. We should not be fighting their civil war for them. Americans should not be dying for Iraq. Iraqis should be. To many of us have already died for ours. Know something else. The bastards still dance in the streets whenever an American is butchered. The Shites are not voteing because they care for America. They are voteing to take control so the Sunnis don't. Then it will be back to hating America. They will tell us to get out. Then the Clerics will move in. Then Iraq, Iran and others will sit down and discuss how truly terrible the infidel America is.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 12:19 PM (gvOyZ)
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The World War II analogy is not appropriate. The Japanese people surrendered because their God-Emperor Hirohito surrendered, while the Islamic world has no single leader (the Caliphate was abolished by Kemal Ataturk in 1924).
As for Germany, the Americans arrived there not so much as conquerors, as saviors from Communism. Better become friends of the Americans and British than be abandoned to the murder, rape and pillage of a vicious, vengeful Red Army.
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January 18, 2005
Leader of Jaish Muhammed Admits Iran-Syria Connection
This
MEMRI translation of the taped confession of Jaish Muhammed leader Muayed Al-Nasseri, who was captured last month.
Highlights:
The Army of Muhammad was founded by Saddam Hussein after the fall of the regime
We got aid primarily from Iran. The truth is that Iran has played a significant role in supporting the Army of Muhammad and many factions of the resistance. I have some units, especially in southern Iraq, which receive Iranian aid in the form of arms and equipment."
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The Syria connection is hardly a surprise - Hussein's regime was a Baathist, so it's not a huge shock to see Baathist governments helping each other.
As for Iran, interesting if true. Iran is Shiite Muslim, while Iraq was Sunni during Hussein's reign. Wouldn't the Army of Mohammed be Sunni as a result? And why would Iran help if that was the case?
Posted by: Venom at January 18, 2005 11:50 AM (dbxVM)
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Good point, especially since his knowlege of Iran comes second-hand but his Syria contacts were personal.
On the other hand, common enemies sometimes make strange bedfellows.
Posted by: Rusty at January 18, 2005 01:44 PM (JQjhA)
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The question I have is, what are we gonna do about it?
Is it worthy of doing anything?
Posted by: EC at January 18, 2005 02:02 PM (yYGP5)
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FWIW: i posted on this ten days ago:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/01/iraqs-defense-minister-shows-proof.html
From ARAB NEWS in SAUDI ARABIA ("REUTERS"):
Iraqi Minister Says Iran, Syria Back Insurgents
BAGHDAD, 8 January - Iraq’s interim defense minister said yesterday he had proof that Syria and Iran were backing the insurgency raging in Iraq with money and arms. In the latest accusation against Iraq’s neighbors, Hazim Al-Shaalan showed journalists a video of a man he said was the captured leader of an insurgent group called Mohammed’s Army, confessing to receiving aide from Iran and Syria, and threatened revenge. “We, especially in Mohammed’s Army, received a lot of help from Iran, which also supports most of the resistance groups in Iraq,” said the man, who identified himself as Col. Moayed Yassin Aziz Al-Nasiri, from Saddam Hussein’s disbanded army. The video’s authenticity could not be verified. Iran and Syria deny links with Iraq’s insurgents.
It's ultimatum time... or maybe we have to wait until Iraq elects their government - AND THEN THEY ISSUE AN ULTIMATUM OF THEIR OWN: "Stop aiding the counter-revolutionaries or we will counter-attack your nation!" Then, the Iraq government asks us for help - AND WHAM, we whack Iran and Syria destroying all their military assets!
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glad u posted on it - now people will find out about it!
Posted by: reliapundit at January 18, 2005 03:06 PM (EblG2)
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Time to get down. Don't invade. Destroy. Deliver a message that can be understood.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 18, 2005 07:05 PM (wJPgF)
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greyrooster, I am now certain you are a right-brainer.
Posted by: Anti War at January 19, 2005 10:00 AM (PM/BC)
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Why would syria help sadaam while they had a tense relationship for a long time? Syria was against Iraq during the Iraqi war against Iran. Syria was also against Iraq during the Kuwait invasion. It doesn't make sense that Syria will support Sadaam now. On the Other hand the Ba'th in Syria is the left wing of that party which went throug a dispute with the right wing which is the Iraqi Ba'th party now. They are two different extremes.
Posted by: peace at February 23, 2005 01:59 AM (p7Bwk)
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go to hill
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Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa Freed
Catholic World News:
Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa of Mosul, Iraq, was released on Tuesday morning, January 18, less than a day after being kidnapped.
Details of the archbishop's abduction and release were incomplete, as of Tuesday morning. But the Vatican was notified promptly that Archbishop Casmoussa had been freed, and papal spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls expressed "great satisfaction" with the news.
"The Pope was informed immediately, and thanked God" for the Iraqi prelate's release, Navarro-Valls added. He said that no ransom had been paid.
Earlier, Church officials in Iraq had been quoted as saying that they had received a ransom demand. Father Tetrus Mosei, the vicar general of the Mosul diocese, reportedly received a phone call on Tuesday morning demanding payment of $200,000 for the archbishop's release. Catholics in Mosul were collecting funds for the ransom payment when they heard that Archbishop Casmoussa was already free.
In Rome, Navarro-Valls said that the archbishop's abduction came as a surprise, in part because he is "very well liked by both Christians and Muslims."
Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho, who heads the Chaldean Catholic diocese of Mosul (Archbishop Casmoussa is the Syrian-rite leader), suggested that the kidnapping was probably not motivated by religious issues. He told reporters that criminals in Mosul, taking advantage of the unrest in the city, have begun kidnapping prominent people to generate quick profits from ransoms.
Good news. I still find it hard to believe that this was a simple act of extortion. Christians in the Middle East routinely play down religious tensions fearing further persecution. Further, Christians have been in dhimmi subjegation for so long that they become some of the best apologists for their own oppression. Uncle Toms if you will.
I may be going out on a limb here, but it remains a distinct possibility that whoever took Casmoussa might not have realized what kind of press this would receive--even in the Arab world. After all, the Catholic church opposed the war making itself the darling of terrorist media such as al Jazeera. An ignoble ally for such a great institution.
Having said that it does remain a distinct possibility that simple extortion was the only motive. Wherever we go human greed seems to remain the same. However, in my own experience I find that one is rarely motivated by a single factor. It is then also possible that extortion and religion played motivating factors.
Hat tip Digger and Interested Participant
Expect an update later.....
Let's not forget that at least four (possibly five) Americans are still being held hostage in Iraq. Roy Hallums, Dean Sadek, Tim Bell, and Bill Bradley.
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Wow that was pretty damned fast. Did the Vatican pay for his release? Why do they let some go, and some they hold indefinitely?
Posted by: Laura at January 18, 2005 09:15 AM (ptOpl)
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If this was religiously-motivated, I'd say it would be highly unlikely that he would be released, especially after 1 day. If you're fighting a jihad, I doubt you'd give up a prize like an archbishop because of "press."
Whoever did it was probably looking for a ransom, and probably realized that Casmoussa would generate more heat than they needed.
Posted by: Venom at January 18, 2005 09:51 AM (dbxVM)
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It all depends on the group that did the kidnapping. All of the hostage taking is political theater. If the openning act bombs, you close the show.
Posted by: Rusty at January 18, 2005 10:41 AM (JQjhA)
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The kidnapping of hostages everyone knows will die is a "bomb," but that doesn't stop Ansar Al-Sunnah from doing it over and over again.
But I agree that it depends on who's doing the kidnapping.
Posted by: Venom at January 18, 2005 10:53 AM (dbxVM)
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Told you so. Assholes weren't that stupid.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 18, 2005 07:37 PM (wJPgF)
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It's a case of mistaken identity
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January 17, 2005
Archbishop Kidnapped in Iraq (UPDATED)
Mosul is a base of operation for The Army of Ansar al Sunnah, and I suspect that this is their handiwork. Right: Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa at the
UCIP World Congress 2004.
Critical update 1/18/05: Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa freed! No ransom paid. Details at this post.
Reuters:
The Catholic archbishop of the Iraqi city of Mosul was kidnapped Monday in what the Vatican called an "act of terrorism."
Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls told Reuters the Holy See had received news of the kidnapping of Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa in Mosul. The spokesman demanded his immediate release but gave no details of the abduction.
BBC News:
A Catholic archbishop in the northern Iraq city of Mosul has been kidnapped by insurgents, the Vatican says. Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa, 66, was abducted from outside his church in the east of the city.
The Vatican said in a statement that it deplored "in the firmest way such a terrorist act", and asked that the archbishop be freed immediately.
There have been a number of attacks on Iraq's Christian minority. Two churches were bombed in Mosul in December.
Developing.....
More on Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa,a Syrian by birth, he was Archbishop of the Catholic Syrian Church--which is affilated with the Roman Catholic Church.
Recently quoted as saying, "The terrorist groups that carry out the attacks “hope that many, many more Christians will go. Their strategy is to create fear among the Christians and push them out of Iraq,”
UPDATE I: No claims of responsibility aired yet on al Jazeera, but only this story:
Casmusa, 66, leader of the city's Syrian Catholic community, was seized at around 5pm local time (1400 GMT) as he was about to enter his car, Father Faraj told AFP.
The armed men tossed him into the trunk of their vehicle before speeding away, according to the priest, who follows the rival Chaldean rite.
The Chaldean patriarch in Baghdad, Emmanuel Delly, said Casmusa "was abducted outside his home as he was returning from a pastoral visit in the diocese of Mosul".
"He was abducted and taken off in a car. We don't know who took him, nor the reason why," Delly told the missionary news agency Misna by telephone.
UPDATE II: There has been some discussion at other blogs as to the possible motivation for kidnapping the Archbishop, some speculating that this could be a simple act of extortion for money.
However, one need look no farther than a recent communique from Abu Musab al Zarqawi to see why Christians in general have a great deal to fear in the Middle East. Al Qaeda in Iraq justified the recent murder of Amer Nayef saying he was "the deputy police chief of the Jews and Christians" and that Nayef's son was murdered because he "serves the pagan guard."
The terrorists really believe that the liberation of Iraq was a reenactment of the Crusades. Iraq is just another chapter in the Crusades and who better to symbolize Christianity's victory than Archbishop Casmoussa?
The deep paranoia of Muslims in the Middle East plays out in such a way that all Christians should now consider themselves targets. Jews who once lived in Arab countries can tell you what I am talking about. All Jews in Muslim lands are considered potential spies for the "Zionist entity."
I suspect the same suspicions and paranoia will now scapegoat Christians as responsible for the ills of Iraqi society and as possible collaborators with the "Crusader forces."
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This is crazy! Why on earth would they want a person of the cloth, of all people? They are usually the ones who oppose war. This is getting too close to home for me.
I say my original plan still would be the most effective way to get out of this. And most of know what that plan is.
Posted by: Laura at January 17, 2005 04:02 PM (ptOpl)
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This could be the beginning of the end for the Islamofacists.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2005 07:51 PM (Vc+ll)
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I am sick over this story, but this isn't anything new, just the next chapter in a long story. (Hello, Sudan?) Muslims have routinely kidnapped thousands of Christians and held them for ransom or just kept them as slaves. (If you've ever heard of churches with names like "Our Lady of Ransom" that's why.) Many saints, most notably St. Vincent de Paul, offered himself (twice!) as a substitute for some poor bastard kidnapped by the Moors. (St. Anthony of Padua wanted to go the the Middle East and get himself martyred, but God had other plans.)
I hope His Eminence is all right.
Catholic Relief Services is sending millions of dollars and hundreds of volunteers to help Muslims in Indonesia. So much for winning the RoP over by our good works. Think any of their co-religionists eating, drinking and healing courtesy of the Catholic Church will speak out to condemn this?
(Sound of crickets).
Posted by: avenueBAlum at January 17, 2005 08:54 PM (nTEvo)
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I sent money to CRS in December shortly after the disaster.
Of course I can't fault the poor people involved in this disaster.
Islam,Budist,whatever,I had some ability to help the people.
Just hard to stomach this latest kidnaping. Sub humans involved here.
Hard to imagine coming to a political solution with this bunch. I really think there has to be a winner in this struggle or we will fight each other until the end.
Posted by: Brad at January 17, 2005 11:42 PM (6krEN)
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Not so long ago, Christian churches had been bombed. (actually twice ) A young girl from Mosul, living in Baghdad now has her own blog, I believe called "A star in Mosul." When the first bombing of the Christian churches, she first apologized to the Christians in her country and then Christians around the world. She went on to say a member of her family was getting married and all the Christians in the neighborhood came out and surrounded the mosque so the wedding could go on without a hitch. The Christians came and protected the mosque so the wedding could happen. Then she said "See, we can all get along if we try."
I haven't got a clue as to why they would abduct a well-known archbishop but there will be hell to pay if he's killed.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 18, 2005 12:13 AM (D39Vm)
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Say a prayer to Santo Nino Cautivo for Archbishop Casmoussa.
Posted by: Lorenzo at January 18, 2005 01:16 AM (gJDJ4)
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Hi Laura,
Yup, we all know what that solution is but when I say it I get called an ignorant scumbag!! Yeah right!
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 18, 2005 02:29 AM (D39Vm)
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I don't believe they will kill him. Someone in their organization must have some brains. Of course, they killed Margaret without major outpouring against them. Maybe that incident gave the murderers courage.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 18, 2005 05:48 AM (paXpx)
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Shouldn't we consider all muslims to be potential spies for Islamic terrorists groups. If we did not have muslims in America would America be safer? I think so. I think this horrible religion should be outlawed. Wish to be muslim? Go live in a muslim land. If this shit continues muslims in America and other countries won't be safe anyway. Just a matter of time. When the ball starts rolling it won't stop. Sooner or later retaliation will start. Unfair? yes. But it will happen.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 18, 2005 06:01 AM (paXpx)
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Thank goodness he was freed Tuesday without any ransom being paid.
Posted by: Dave at January 18, 2005 08:24 AM (WICUl)
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Firstbrokenangel, you could get yourself a clue, but this of course depends on what side of your brain you use. Logical thinking involves two problem-solving styles which individually reflect the way the brain's adjacent hemispheres work: the left side concentrates on detail and analysis, the right side specializes in lateral and creative thinking. Both hemispheres are linked, but one side usually dominates an individual's way of thinking at any given time. If you have a tendency toward left-brain activity, you would solve problems by relying on information and facts before reaching a decision. Your major drawbacks are a resistance to new ideas and the potential suppression of creativity by evaluating ideas before they are fully formed.
If you have a tendency toward right-brained activity and solve problems creatively and flexibly to come up with lots of solutions. Your main disadvantage is getting bored with detail and wanting to rush on to the next challenge without having resolved previous issues.
You could, of course, have centered-brain activity, with both sides working in equilibrium. This mental elasticity enables you to comfortably apply either an analytical or a creative approach. You may, however, not be either systematic or imaginative enough, which could undermine your depth of understanding or limit your ability to switch between left-and right-brained decisions. What part do you use? I can provide boosting tips, if you wish. I hope I've helped you to get "a clue".
Posted by: Anti War at January 18, 2005 08:44 AM (PM/BC)
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Anti War: WTF??????????
Posted by: Laura at January 18, 2005 09:17 AM (ptOpl)
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Laura, lol, I'm not being hostile towards firstbrokenangel, I'm just trying to help him get "a clue".
Posted by: Anti War at January 18, 2005 09:45 AM (PM/BC)
Posted by: Laura at January 18, 2005 04:50 PM (ptOpl)
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Help HIM get a clue? That says it all. FIRSTBROKENANGEL, FIRSTBROKENANGEL, FIRSTBROKENANGEL. Get it dip shit! What side of your brain are you using? The one you sit on? Details are normally left to those left behind who fail to see the big picture.
Secondly, your a small time academic nerd. So obvious its getting boring.
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Greyrooster, is your comment aimed at me? If you want I can give you a FREE psychological profile. A lot of work needs to go into you, however, there is hope. I would consider you are a right-brainer, the right hemisphere is associated with spatial construction, non-verbal creativity, and visual processing, but has no specialist regions. But if you were to be a left-brainer, then this hemisphere is associated with linguistic function, speech production, the ability to write and understand written words, and plays a crucial role in mathematical calculation and logical deduction.
Posted by: Anti War at January 19, 2005 09:53 AM (PM/BC)
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Who says you're qualified to do anything? You? I've always thought people who are interested in psychology entered it for one reason. They're nuts and wish to understand why they are so sick.
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January 14, 2005
al Qaeda Gearing Up for Iraqi Elections
Evan Kohlman is now blogging over at
The Counterterrorism Blog and links a number of his original translations of recent al Qaeda in Iraq communiques. His analysis?
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi--has dramatically increased its targeting of influential Iraqi government officials, potential candidates in the election, and anyone else associated with the electoral process.
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You know that Shia cleric that was just gunned down recently? An hour ago on Fox, they said the Sunni's are taking responsibility for that murder, but we'll hear soon enough.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:50 PM (D39Vm)
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There is now you can get this type of organizational ability and sophistication without help from other states. Syria has a hand in this. What country stands to lose the most from a democratic IRAQ? Syria.
Posted by: Asia at January 14, 2005 09:19 PM (Sbgdv)
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I can't think of any form of death that would be appropriate for this man and his gruesome beheadings. You could always tell it was him because of the way he did things, cowardly covered up or not.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 11:48 PM (D39Vm)
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I can, Cindy. Get the bluntest, rustiest sword you can find and slowly, very gingerly, start cutting his neck, and no blindfold...let him see his own blood spurting out. Let the bastard bleed out before you begin to cut a little more, and a little more....make it last.
Posted by: Laura at January 16, 2005 02:32 PM (ptOpl)
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Iraqi Soldiers Taken Hostage
Via
Chad at In the Bullpen the news that
15 Iraqi National Guardsman have been captured by the terrorists. Sadly, their fate is already sealed.
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Can you imagine this? There were people on the side of the road with grenades at and into the bus. The 15 they took hostage were ones who were not hurt and ambulatory. And you're right about that fate. I had heard earlier that most of the guys who were training for the guard, police, military couldn't even tell their families what they were doing out of fear that their families would be killed. This invisible enemy should be glowing so we and they can tell the difference between citizens and terrorists.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:20 PM (D39Vm)
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Now they're saying the bus was hit with an RPG. It'll probably be awhile before we know everything. But trained Iraqi National Guardsman should have fought off their attackers instead of giving in and giving up to the terrorists. I mean,how could they possibly have gone with these terrorists willingly without fighting them off with their newly trained skills?
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:36 PM (D39Vm)
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True, especially since they know what will happen once they are captured. That's just like these defense classes. They tell you if at all possible, fight off your attacker and do NOT get into the vehicle...once you are inside, it is highly likely you will never come out of that car alive. So fight with the last ounce of your strength.
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How can u expect these iraqi national guards can fight against these guerillas when american marines who train them are themselves vulnerable to attacks from iraqi guerilas. Without aerial bombing american marines could have never got success in iraq. The american ground forces played no major role in overthrowing the iraqi govt under Saddam
Posted by: subrato at January 26, 2005 07:42 AM (safej)
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Terrorists Kill 6 Israeli Civilians at Gaza Crossing
....al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claims responsibility.
"Just not quite yet."
Related, and funny. -- Dittos.
More commentary.
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Anyone who can't see that the Palestinian militants are DEFYING Abbas and not carrying out his orders is just dumb. Abbas is not Arafat - just look at his record (he's the only Palestinian I know of who successfully negotiated a temporary ceasefire from Hamas during the 2nd intifadah).
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Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has cut all contact with Mahmoud Abbas until the newly elected Palestinian leader reins in the militants
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Oooooooooooooh..... radical progressive new thinking from the Israelis there! Bravo boys...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_sharon
Posted by: Martin at January 14, 2005 12:22 PM (ll2pj)
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I'm guessing you aren't aware of "hudna", which is often translated as "truce" but really means "strategic truce" or a lie you tell the infidels so that you can rearm and kill them more efficiently next time.
Posted by: Rusty at January 14, 2005 01:42 PM (JQjhA)
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Oh, come on Rusty!!! If anybody is out to kill people, it's ARIEL SHARON. Don't be blind here now. The problem is Ariel Sharon; he does not want peace with the Palestinian people. What he wants is to wipe every Palestinian on this earth. Abbas got a call from Sharon because he was pressured to make that call but he never had and never will have any intention for peace between Israel and Palestine.
You say how many Israeli's were killed - why don't we keep track of how many Palestinians get killed every day by Ariel Sharon????
It's one thing to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah, but ABBAS has no control over them. Even after he was elected, they said that they were not going to follow the orders of Abbas. This is a GOOD man. Ariel Sharon is NOT a good man and never has been.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 01:55 PM (D39Vm)
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If Sharon actually gave a damn, he would work with Abbas, the EU and others and follow the peace plan. With all of them together, they could go after the terrorists.
How many Palestinians were killed yesterday? more than Israeli's.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:03 PM (D39Vm)
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Uhhhhh, Cindy... small problem with your thesis: there are still Palestinians alive. If Sharon really wanted to, he could have killed them all by now pretty easily.
Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2005 02:05 PM (lZMuK)
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>>>How many Palestinians were killed yesterday? more than Israeli's.
So Palestinians suck at war. What's your point? More Germans were killed in WW II than Americans too.
Posted by: TallDave at January 14, 2005 02:07 PM (lZMuK)
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:11 PM (D39Vm)
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Martin and Rusty's point was the same as mine. I just said it differently.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 02:30 PM (D39Vm)
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Not much point in a negociated peace. The Palensaninas will either kill or ignore any leader that makes peace.
To Isreal....Build the wall high, they want the whole thing!
Posted by: Brad at January 14, 2005 06:52 PM (9QUMl)
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Brad,
The World Court Ordered Sharon to take down that wall and he has refused an has actually continued making that wall. He is losing support from his neighbors,the European Union, the UN although they aren't any help to anyone and hopefully will be disbanded for all the good they do. Even the US is trying to deal with Sharon but he just continues to do what he wants,even when his own people protest against him - so no,that man should be taken out.
AND just because someone is a Palestinian does not make them a terrorist.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 14, 2005 07:04 PM (D39Vm)
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World court, UN. More expensive bullshit.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 14, 2005 07:34 PM (Chchy)
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Grey Rooster, we all agree that the UN is nothing but bullshit.Even Bush tried to get that message across when he gave out AmericanCorps as a place to send direct donations and now there's a commericial with his father and Clinton on it - their mission is to raise a long term collection of funds for rebuilding in South Asia. Someone also has to make new maps; things are no longer the way it used to be. We also need it here in our own country. How much does Kerry have left after his Presidential run? What is he going to do with it? Why not donate it all? Nah, that would be too good of him and he does not have that in him.
Someday someone will take a bulldozer to the UN building and push it into the nearest river in NYC and send home all those Secretaries and Prime ministers who live here for free, never pay taxes, as well as never getting anything done. This was another long discussion we had here on this site and you'll find it in the archives where are the good stuff is.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 15, 2005 12:03 AM (D39Vm)
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Well Cindy,
Let's say we give the Palestanians everything they wan't. Isreal is now more of a rump state than it is now. Now wall, same problems. We have just extended the refugee camp to what was formally productive land.
Same problems,new demands,no willingness by the Palestinan legal authority to round up,arrest, prevent the terrorist.
Your looking for a solution that does not exist. My advice...start going to church and understand that this is all coming to an end.
Posted by: Brad at January 15, 2005 11:02 AM (ywZa8)
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As usual Cindy is right and the rest of you are racist!
Sorry but that's the way I see it. You're all so dimisssive of the rights of man vis a vis Arabs. Where's the humanity? Why can't you just pause & empathise with all the non-white civilians that get caught up in this mess. Having dark skin and being skeptical of the world's only superpower DOES NOT MAKE YOU A TERRORIST!
For you own sakes I hope none of you believe in Karma or reincarnation.
Posted by: Martin at January 15, 2005 12:33 PM (ll2pj)
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No Martin, I don't believe In any of THAT shit.
Posted by: Brad at January 15, 2005 12:53 PM (6krEN)
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MARTIN: Who was dancing in the streets at 9/11? They caused my disgust all by themselves. Racist? Yea. Americans are better than they because Americans don't act that way. It's called the evolutionary scale of which their actions show they are lower on the scale. Just the way it is. Blame God. Not me. I didn't do it. He did. I would have done it different.
Remember if you call those that don't favor the Palestinians Racist. What are those that don't favor the Jews? As for me. I don't care for either one.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2005 06:43 AM (paXpx)
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Sistani Aide Shot in Iraq
AP via
Globe and Mail:
Gunmen killed a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric, along with the aide's son and four bodyguards in a town south of Baghdad, an official in the cleric's office said Thursday...
Sheik Mahmoud Finjan, Mr. al-Sistani's representative in the town of Salman Pak, 20 kilometres southeast of Baghdad, was shot dead Wednesday night as he was returning home from a mosque where he performed the evening prayers, the official said on condition of anonymity. His son and four bodyguards were also killed, the official at Mr. al-Sistani's office in this Shiite holy city said.
Given the location of the assasination, my money is on the Islamic Army in Iraq.
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How does it feel? Like a rolling stone. The Islamofacists need something to do. The easiest target will do. Any excuse will do. Anyone or religion or belief can and will be a target.
Free room and board, comradeship, excitement. Parents will be proud of you. Your picture on the mantel. Religious leaders pat you on the back, claim you are a martyr. Your 15 minutes of fame and 72 virgins all rolled into one. Western educated muslims to show you how to make bombs. Neighboring countries supply you with weapons. Western charities supply you with money.
No baseball, no football, no basketball, no alcohol, no dancing, no Disney World. Why lead a boring existence? Become a terrorist and see the world. If you lose in Afghanistan go to Iraq. If you lose in Iraq go to ??????? Learn human anatomy, behead innocent people. Kill westerners who you have been jealous of all your life. Kill rival religious leaders. Settle old scores. Fun, fun, fun. Terrorism is becoming a way of life for unemployable muslims. Beats working for a living.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 14, 2005 07:12 AM (EFJCX)
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Well I heard today on the news that the son of one of Sistani's aides was shot and killed today.
Just passing on the new news.
~C
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January 12, 2005
Mosul Bombing
Speaking of Ansar al-Sunnah, this is surely their work.....
Turkish Press:
Twin car bombs killed at least two Iraqi soldiers in Mosul...
In the troubled city of Mosul, a white van tried to swerve inside a joint convoy of US and Iraqi military vehicles, but exploded prematurely, killing an unknown number of civilians, US army Sergeant Chris Schaeffer told AFP.
A second car parked on a street, not far away from the first blast, exploded and killed two Iraqi soldiers, Schaeffer said.
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This reminds me of the double bombings held here in our own county. A bomb goes off, everyone gets there to help and then another goes off to cause more deaths and injuries for maximum loss. Eric Rudolph (is that his name?) who was finally caught a few months ago by accident, used to do that at abortion clinics. How can you protect yourself under those circumstances? You can't and the more they do of this, the worse it's going to get for everyone. Not only do they need to secure the scene but they're going to have to secure a wider space and hopefully notice the second vehicle before it explodes.
Cindy
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Six al Qaeda Operatives Arrested over Baghdad Governor Assasination
I wasn't around when the governor was killed, but
Chad guest posted on it here. Via
Chad at In the Bullpen this
Reuters story:
U.S. troops have arrested six suspects in the assassination of Baghdad's provincial governor, the highest-ranking official hit so far in attacks to sabotage Iraq's Jan. 30 election, the military said on Wednesday.
Acting on a tip from residents, soldiers seized the suspected insurgents on Tuesday in a house in western Baghdad, U.S. officials said....
"We were able to act on this intelligence and detain these guys without firing a shot," said Major Web Wright, an army spokesman. The military said the men were being held for questioning.
Good news. These guys were agents of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al Qaedi in Iraq.
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Sure hope those guys don't get Jack Bauer for an interrogator.
Actually, scratch that; I think that's a *wonderful* idea.
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
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The best part of that article is "Acting on a tip from residents." Now that is good news.
Cindy
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Ansar al-Islam/Ansar al-Sunnah
The Commissar, who I hear has gone into semi-retirement,
republishes this
SPI article on Ansar al-Islam.
Because large portions of this site have been devoted to exposing the Ansar al Sunnah, I thought I'd republish it also below. I would correct the SPI article only in stating that Ansar al-Islam is now defunct. Ansar al-Islam bases of operation were heavily bombed during the Iraq invasion and Kurdish forces have completely suppressed the groups activities in the area. All terrorist activity in Northern Iraq has been by Ansar al-Sunnah, an offshoot and now replacement of Ansar al-Islam. Further, it was the Army of Ansar al-Sunnah themselves that have claimed allegiance to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq group. The article makes it sound as if there is some question about the relationship. There is none.
more...
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http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=138&newsid=55553&ch=0&datte=2005-01-11
...WTF??? That reminds me of the communique some group released ages ago threatening Zarqawi and all his militants.
It seems some credibility has to be given to the US govs claim that the insurgency is highly fragmented...
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_binladen_011205,00.html
Just posted this here cus your report says there is no doubt that Zarqawi & Sunnah are allied... I don't think that's the case. It may be true that Sunnah pledged allegiance a while ago, but a lot has changed. Sunnah may not want to be associated with a panIslamic terror group - they'd prob rather be perceived as the one true legitimate nationalist army (i.e. more selective in its aims & targets).
Best case scenario... Ansar al Sunnah & Al Qaeda in Iraq declare war on each other; go battle in the dessert; all the Iraqi civilians & coalition soldiers are left alone.
Posted by: Martin at January 12, 2005 02:55 PM (ll2pj)
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A funny: The other day at the gym while working out, I glanced at the tv screen, they had the sound turned down and the closed captions on....instead of "Shite", they had "shit"!!! No one else caught it, I thought it was hilarious.
:-D
Posted by: Laura at January 12, 2005 04:47 PM (ptOpl)
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Martin,
On two beheading videos released by Ansar al-Sunnah one of the executioners identifies himself as a member of Tawhid and Jihad, the old name for Zarqawi's group. Further, after Zarqawi was forced out of Fallujah he went where? Mosul, the stomping grounds of Ansar. Ansar is not a 'nationalistic movement' in any sense of the word. They are an Islamist movement every bit as much as al Qaeda in Iraq. They make no bones about that.
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what if all the victims ,directly ,indirectly ,even supporters form a team and finish ..of zarqwaris every relative..rpe them, i dont know what..
for zaqwari he should die a slow death..he should be rped might be his full family...do let me know if any one is intrested in this assignemnt...
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Tribute to American Hostage Roy Hallums
UPDATE 9/07/05: Roy Hallums is FREE!!!!
Information and updates here.
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UPDATE 1/25/05: Terrorists Release Video of Roy Hallums, click here for update.
A page dedicated to American hostage Roy Hallums by his daughter Carrie. Right: Roy Hallums pictured with Carrie as a child
As close followers of this site know, a minor controversy was started when we published the name of an American civillian being held hostage in Iraq. His name first appeared as 'Roy Hallun' in a Fillipino newspaper and we republished that account here. In response to that initial post a friend of Roy contacted us and clarified that Roy's last name was actually 'Hallums'.
We published several posts about Roy Hallums, shocked that not a single mainstream media outlet had picked up on the story. Roy had been kidnapped with six other foreigners on November 1st. For weeks the State Department would only confirm that an American had been kidnapped but would not release his name. This seemed odd to us and we felt that the word should get out.
Members of Roy's family soon contacted us with words of encouragement. They too were perplexed that an American citizen could be held hostage in Iraq and yet no media would cover the story.
However, as some of you know, we took down several posts dedicated to Roy Hallums. A person close to Roy Hallums' contacted me with the concern that publicizing his account might jeopardize ongoing negotiations for his release. I was conflicted. On the one hand I felt a great deal of sympathy for this person. If I were in their shoes I would do everything possible, including paying a ransom to terrorists, for the release of my loved one. On the other hand, I wanted the whole world to know the depths of Islamofascist perfidy. As a matter of fact, my entire site is dedicated to that very goal.
In the end, the personal nature of the request won me over and I removed the posts as requested.
In the past few weeks, Roy's immediate family has been trying to get the word out about his plight and it seems the media is catching on. Just prior to my vacation I was contacted by a producer at CBS news who was trying to reach the Hallums family--I assume they ran the story although I've been out of the loop. Carrie and her mother Susan Hallums have also appeared on Good Morning America trying to get the word out about their loved one.
Carrie e-mailed me over my holiday letting me know that she had set up a web page dedicated to her father. If you have a minute I'd encourage you to go over there and look around. You can leave words of encouragement at this guest page. Also, please include Roy Hallums and his family in your prayers.
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Now, my man Rusty is back!!!
May God Bless and Protect the family of Roy Hallums, Roy himself and of all the people who have been kidnapped, held hostage, or already dead, that we know nothing about for it happens everyday and we rarely hear about it.
I have not seen anything yet on the news about this, Rusty, but glad you posted it again. There are more and probably will never hear about it unfortunately.
All my hopes and prayers go to all families and to all people who have been put in this position whether we know about it or not; the way things are going, it's possible all we can do for all these people is send them our sympathies. For those who may read this blog and have a family member missing, you can even write me with the name and date and I'm sure Rusty will add your loved one's name. There is so much we do not know and may never know. This is one name of many not listed - American or otherwise.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 11, 2005 09:02 PM (D39Vm)
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"As a matter of fact, my entire site is dedicated to that very goal."
A big "AHEM"
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 11, 2005 09:07 PM (D39Vm)
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The question of why non-combatants continue to be in Iraq remains?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 11, 2005 09:49 PM (Vc+ll)
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Dan Rather, CBS. Ficitious reports on Bush's military records.
Question:
If incorrect/lies reports were given to Dan Rather concerning Kerry would CBS have jumped on it with the same enthusiasm?
Would Rather continued to support lies even after they were exposed as not true?
Were reports given with election results in mind?
CBS employees getting fired to save face. Is that enough after obviously reporting lies not substantiated? Should CBS be fined?
HEY RUSTY: Time to give the Kerry supporting liberal cry babies some pay back.
GET ON IT.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 11, 2005 10:54 PM (Vc+ll)
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Wrong comment for this post, greyrooster.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 12, 2005 02:11 AM (D39Vm)
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Grey Rooster, you wanted to know why non-combatants are still going to Iraq - MONEY. Anyone working there is making at least $80 to $100 an hour and more for the highly skilled.
Cindy
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Rusty,
Just a quuestion: if they were concerned before about your blog following Mr. Hallum, why are they not concerned about it anymore (including setting up their own page)? Has something changed?
Yeah, I know, that was 2 questions...
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Venom,
The concern was from one person close to Roy who I'll let remain anonymous. After the MSM picked up the story and Carrie put up her own website, I felt like the cat was out of the bag. There is no reason now to restrain myself.
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Someone wish to be a moderator? Get your own blog. Don't read my input. The arrow on the right shows how to continue on.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 12, 2005 01:16 PM (R0PwA)
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I hope and pray that he returns safely.
Posted by: Ron Bridges at January 25, 2005 05:18 AM (B/nhD)
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Wait, his own daughter didn't know he was living in Iraq, and she can't remember that "country near-by" where he lived just before then? Me smells hoax. I give this another 48 hours before it's snopes material.
Posted by: huh at January 25, 2005 06:07 AM (IkjJk)
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how stupid do you have to be to NOT realize roy is reading a prepared statement from his captors? roy's family frequents this site for support. how dare someone hope in this forum that he be killed!
Posted by: legalblonde68 at January 25, 2005 11:02 AM (Z7VMU)
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Hello,
This is your wakeup call.....
Iraq, THE ENTIRE COUNTRY is a WAR ZONE!!!!
If you go there for any reason you are subjecting yourself to whatever those who don't want you there choose to do to you.
PLEASE do your loved ones a favor and consider LONG AND HARD the choice you are making.
Then, if you've made the choice to go there PLEASE tell your loved ones to LIVE WITH IT!!!!
Posted by: Hacksaw at January 25, 2005 03:34 PM (EPVeK)
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Hey this is a reply for the little pile of garbage "huh" who pu tin his useless 2 cents in a reply and I quote what he says Wait, his own daughter didn't know he was living in Iraq, and she can't remember that "country near-by" where he lived just before then? Me smells hoax. I give this another 48 hours before it's snopes material.
HOW DARE you, You little ignorant mother F&*%#@. I have talked to Carrie Hallums On The Phone From Here In Canada and I have followed the news closely.....THIS IS NO HOAX you ignorant little bastard. You owe the entire Hallums family an apology for your comments. Start following the news and papers before you open that hole in your face and spew out total crap. I am doing what I can from here to try and help with raising money to send to them and others are aswell we dont need to hear your lame ignorant comments. try HELPING your fellow American out here get him home safe. Dont come on here and spew crap about something you think you know about. You have proven that you know nothing about it at all and just decided to be a punk. GROW UP JACK ASS!
Posted by: IronHorse at January 25, 2005 09:14 PM (lc9F1)
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Hey Shakleford....get a better alias and stop wasting that young lady's time and hurting her more by being a coward and fooling her with all of this crap on your page. I hope that she can see past your foolishness to rescuing her faather and that he makes it home safely.
PS - too much King of the Hill is never a good thing.
Posted by: Dale Gribble at January 26, 2005 01:49 PM (yK9T7)
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Why can't President Bush help Roy Hallums? This is really frusterating to sit and watch all of these hostage videos and the government just says its classified information. Until when? Why cant the family know what is going on. They say that America is united, well if we are, then lets go save our fellow Americans from the terror that we will never be able to fathom. To Roy's family: my thoughts and prayers are with you. I will be checking back. Stay strong, love and peace
Posted by: peace at January 29, 2005 01:00 AM (i3Ipz)
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LGF and Allah back again!!
Charles Johnson, of
Little Green Footballs, the man who inspired me to start My Pet Jawa had been blogging over at
Discarded Lies, another LGF inspired site.
Evariste cannot be happy about the drop in hits.
Another piece of good news: Allah is back! He's using his backup site here. Bookmark it.
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I heard Chuck's move was temporary. Some America haters are making a DOS attack on his site host's servers. H Hewitt on his radio show last night.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 11, 2005 01:35 PM (tHUgl)
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Hmm, I'm not sure that one post a return makes for Allah - but I hope he is truly back.
Posted by: Hammertime at January 11, 2005 01:46 PM (cFg3z)
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I don't know why Charles was out of business, since I haven't been keeping up with the blogosphere, but I'll take your word for it.
Hammertime-I was hoping he would start posting again. We'll see.
Posted by: Rusty at January 11, 2005 02:14 PM (JQjhA)
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I think that there may be reason to mistrust or at least question -- better, ask for evidence of -- certain "explanations" being made by certain hosts. Just saying, is all.
I don't know what the problems are just that I certainly have reason to now question who says what about whom, within a certain affiliated set of websites.
Not Hewitt, if that helps elucidate the issue here, which shall remain intentionally obfuscated.
Posted by: -S- at January 12, 2005 06:23 AM (v5vPW)
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Man Beheaded in Saudi Arabia
You know how the followers of the Religion of Peace like to say things like "
beheading is un-Islamic" or "
beheading is a recent phenomenon in Islamic countries" and what not? A man convicted of drug smuggling was just beheaded in Saudi Arabia and two more necks are scheduled to meet with a noose in Kuwait later today. I guess it was Saudi Arabia's radical secularism that caused this particular form of punishment.
Pak Tribune:
Khan Wali Majid Khan, a Pakistani national, was beheaded here Monday after being convicted for smuggling heroin into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, said a statement released by the Interior Ministry.
He was convicted by the Shariah court, and the verdict was approved by the Cassation court and the Supreme Judicial Council...
Moreover, Two arrested Pakistan drug smugglers would be executed here early Tuesday after Kuwaiti courts and Amir of the state found them guilty of smuggling heroin to Kuwait.
Ayub Shah 30 and Usman Khan 40 were rounded up by Kuwait Custom officials for smuggling heroin in 2002 and both the accused later confessed their guilt when they were produced before the court, according to Kuwait police....
After the rejection of their mercy appeals by the Amir of Kuwait, the Kuwait Attorney General has issued order to conduct execution of both of the Pakistanis at Naif Palace. They would be hanged publicly.
Note that it was a Shariah court that convicted Mr. Khan. Not that hanging makes you any less dead than beheading, but beheading does have a long history in Muslim lands and is explicitly approved of in the Koran. Because it is an acceptable form of punishment, hostages who are beheaded are first made to confess to various crimes against Islam. Thus, Islamic fanatics rationalize beheading as the meting out of justice to apostates, collaboraters, and sinners.
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Glad to have you back. This beheading in Saudi Arabia is #32 this year.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 11, 2005 01:23 PM (D39Vm)
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Rusty,
I think a lot of people have no idea how people are punished over "there." In Saudi, we know that within days of being convicted of a crime, they are beheaded, as they do in other countries over "there." And this is just for drug trafficking. It would be interesting to find out just what the other countries, Muslim and all, deal in "punishment." How about "our allies?" I've seen things that have been horrible but what is the norm for all the other countries over in Europe, Asia, and whatnot? I think most Americans have no clue, so finding out that information would certainly wake them up. I also think it's important for our own information, for anyone who travels. Saudi Arabia is not the only country over there who beheads criminals. We cannot continue to live in ignorance.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 11, 2005 09:23 PM (D39Vm)
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Just for drug trafficing?
Execution without waiting 14 years and millions of tax payers money? I guess every society has its good side.
Did they know the rules? You bet.
Did they take the chance anyway? You bet?
Were they concerned about the lives they ruin with their drug smuggling? Nope.
We have good guys dying every day attempting to make the world a better place. Do I care about Islamic drug smugglers? NOPE.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 11, 2005 10:06 PM (Vc+ll)
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I agree but beheading is a bit harsh for drug trafficking. I was going to add that maybe we should change our rules when it comes to the death penalty here. If you get the death penalty, set a date like 3 months later, stick in the needle and end it all saving tax payers a ton of money.
At least lethal injection is humane; they never feel a thing.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 12, 2005 07:08 AM (D39Vm)
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Saudi's love a little head.
Posted by: FILTHY ALLAH at January 12, 2005 08:17 AM (yBHNA)
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Humane execution? Ha, Ha, Ha.
Tell the guy the date and time. Let him worry for months.
Wheel him in a room. Strap him to a table. Install needles in his arms. Make him lay there for an hour. Have an audience of sicko's wishing to watch him die. Then at the last minute change your mind and start all over again tomorrow. Is that really more humane? Bullshit.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 12, 2005 01:25 PM (R0PwA)
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I dont agree with decapitating people however I would like to see more electric chair executions then lethal injections.
-The Doctor
Posted by: The Doctor at January 14, 2005 04:48 AM (2AnXd)
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Dear Muslim brothers,
We the young youth of (asiakwa village ghana) has organised a institution for the orphans and the upgrowing children in our community.
to teach them the holy book of Allah,(Quran) and show them the way of prophet Mohammed(S.A.W.)but is unfortunately our facilities are too poor.
so we here by appeal to our muslim brothers.
assist us with some funds.we need to extend our classrooms and some other books.
as it was said in the holy book of Allah{73:20} (and whatever good ye send forth for your souls ye shall find it in God's presence,yea,bether and greater,in reward)
our dear brothers help us to keep dinil islam exciting in our community and may the good God be with us all (Amin)
we shall appreciate your prompt response and co-operation.any help can reach us by this name and address
ARAFAT MOHAMMED
P.O.BOX 11357
ACCRA-NORTH
GHANA WEST AFRICA
Posted by: arafat mohammed at January 18, 2005 08:09 AM (9vCFw)
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beheading is barbaric///and the koran approves of that?i think the heads of all the so-called heads of saudi arabia should be chopped off too//that way they will go to
Posted by: lileo at February 04, 2005 09:41 PM (y1/V+)
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Dear Friend,
I AM Mrs Olivia Obruth, Yeputa an Ivorian widow with an only son ( Frank Obruth Yeputa ). My husband was the chief security officer to the ousted president Bede of Cot d’Ivoire. During the overthrown of 24th December 1999, my husband was among the people was killed by the military. Since after his death. I ran away with my only son.
Sir, may I introduce this business proposal to you. With reference to an introduction and good recommendation made of you and your esteemed firm by my close friend, I do hereby wish to ask for your assistance in an urgent business transaction that requires absolute honesty and secrecy. Although I did not in any way disclose to my friend the details of this my proposal due to confidential nature of this transaction.
By virtue of my husband ‘s position, the former president (Bede) gave him $80,500,000.00 (Eighty million five hundred thousand U.S. dollars) cash in $ 100.00 bills stacked in a box when he got the information that the military are planning to overthrow him.
Immediately my husband was confirmed dead, I made away with this box with my only son so that we cannot be reached by Mr. Bede. I have really been waiting for a more suitable time and opportunity to contact you concerning this transaction. Right now, the money is in a safe place. I deposited it with a diplomatic company for safekeeping. I am using this opportunity to seek your assistance to move the money to your country to be invested on behalf of my only son. For your assistance, I am ready to offer you 30% of the total sum and give you the full power to manage the remaining 70% on behalf of my son. Contact my son (Frank Obruth Yeputa ) where we are currently staying in a sister’s house in South Africa.
I Deposited it somewhere in London, which we shall inform you as soon as you conclude arrangements. Upon conclusion of arrangement, we shall forward to you the certificate of deposit and the phone and Fax number of the Diplomatic Company for confirmation.
However, send your message to my son on this E-mail: dr_frankyeputa@yahoo.fr immediately you receive this message. Please I want us to finish this business as quickly as possible. And please indicate your private phone and fax Numbers on your response to this mail. Thanking you in anticipation of your kind
consideration and urgent reply.
Yours faithfully
MRS OLIVIA OBRUTH YEPUTA
Posted by: Mrs Olivia Yeputa at February 18, 2005 11:21 AM (IULp0)
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i need i good girl to marry from saudi arabia.
i prefar any one that see this to call me+
thankkks
vvvvvvvvient
Posted by: vincent koma at February 19, 2005 05:53 AM (7lRpy)
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Dear sir,
It is my pleasure to apply in your establishment,
I am James Augustine,I speak English and French,
I am a Nigerian and I live here in côte d'Ivoire for more than seven years,
Please I need a job of any-kind,especially house work like cleaning the house and Flawers decorretion please for God sake,and I promise to work hard and faithfully too if my application is considered.
thanks and God bless,
yours faithfully, James Augustine.
contact;postal address;05 BP 1184 ABJ.05
email; j_j_august@yahoo.fr
cell; 05 92 87 58
Posted by: James Augustine at April 06, 2005 08:58 AM (BiSya)
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i think these saudi muslims(mutawas) are sick motherfuckers who could be so brutal in life. i had a tuff time there. i m gay and feminine. i think if one appears gay there, he has a high chance to get arrested. these mutawaas were folloing me when i was shopping in the malls. i was wearing a feminine top and a low waste jeans. first they thought i m a female and then they thoguht i m not. the followed me fast and i could sense it. i ran off to my hotel. checked out and took a flight back to my country India where i dont have to face all these stupid laws. one of the mutawas even winked his eyes to me and indirectly wanted to propose me for sex. see how funny, they arrest gays and yet want to shag with them. They are simply sick bastards who dont have principles in life...They should be mass killed.
Posted by: Nikki at April 29, 2005 09:24 PM (ulNQ7)
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What is with all the money scam people leaving proposals to dispose of large sums of money?
Do they think we were born yesterday?
Behead them all!!!!
Posted by: wee willy winkie at May 05, 2005 07:37 AM (uw0Wh)
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dear sir ,im so pleased to apply with you for asistance ,im noureddin elbayar ,ispeak english ,frensh and ihav super diploma in arabic language ,
last year imiss
Posted by: noureddine elbayar at June 08, 2005 03:03 PM (/TlII)
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Dear Sir,
Greetings,
I came to know you through my search for a reliable,transparent and trustworthy person or partner to assist me execute a vital private and confidential business transaction. I am Ola Ahmed, a solicitor at-law; I am the personal attorney to retired Major El - Mustafa who used to be the Chief Security Officer in the Sani Abacha regime here in Nigeria. I shall be disclosing this secret to you because I need some one I can trust on this transaction. El - Mustafa, was arrested and charged to court for Conspiracy and murder which was politically motivated by his enemies in this present regime.
This led to his bank accounts in Nigeria and abroad being frozen. Now, things are really bad for him and his entire family but who I pity most is his loving wife. Based on this, she cannot even afford to take care of her medical expenses not to even talk of her children. This is why I am rendering her and the husband free services.Also due to the fact that her husband is still being monitored, she was advised by him to source for a credible and trustworthy partner abroad who will help in managing and investing some funds he secretly deposited in a security firm for safe keeping some years ago. The amount is US$50.5million contained in sealed boxes.
He deposited these boxes with a safe security company in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. for safekeeping as family treasures and African artifacts to prevent the officials of the company from raising eyebrow. I wish and believe you will be in a position to assist in managing this large sum for a profitable venture and also to help create a safe heaven for her and her children by making a residential arrangement for them in your country. I have also seen the documents relating to this deposit since I strongly believe in documentation as an attorney.
Let me assure you that this transaction is 100% risk free. From my discussion with them, they have agreed to give you a reasonable percentage of the money for your assistance, which will be negotiated and agreed on by both sides. I am obliged to assist this family knowing that they have limited knowledge in the business world. I will need from you a mutual understanding and then we shall make plans of how the funds would be secured into an account in your name, this is the first step. Moreover, you will arrange and travel immediately to meet with the security company for the clearing of the consignment.
Thanks and God bless you for your understanding.
Best regards.
Ola Ahmed
Tel:
Posted by: Mr Diop Williams at September 21, 2005 07:02 AM (k7EfA)
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Dear,
I know this mail will come to you as a surprise but itrequires utmost trust based on the circumstances surrounding my present position before i continue igot your contact from search on the internet when i begin to see that there is no one i can trust again in Africa, i will like to introduce myself.
I am the wife of Late General Sani Abacha from Nigeria i am presently in Ghana as a result of the preseure from president Olusegun Obsanjo who is tormenting the family as a result of the loot my husband hads during his five years military rule, latest from the bbc news is the recovery of $ 458 million united states dollars click on www.bbnews.com african edition Tuesday, 27 September 2005, 16:29 GMT 17:29 UK for your confirmation.
I am there soliciting for your assistance to avoid the siezure of $ 250 million dollars deposited in a bank here in Ghana ( international commercial bank) i want you to assist me as the my partner and beneficairy to this funds because i cannot make the claims because of my name and personality, i will present your name to the bank as the beneficiary so that these funds can be transfered to your account i am willing to offer you 40% of the total amount for your mutual understanding and i am also setting aside 5% for any expenses that will be incured and after the transfer i will send you an account without the Abacha name so that you can transfer my share which is 55%.
I am waiting for your responce please include your personal contact and full names so that i can forward it to the bank for immidiate transfer of the money.Kind regards
Madam: Mariam Sani Abacha.
The wife of the Xmilitary ruler in nigeria
Posted by: mariam Abacha at October 20, 2005 05:11 PM (A9sR1)
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You can't be 56452 serious?!?
Posted by: Mary Box at June 23, 2006 02:43 AM (s+4oT)
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You can't be 56452 serious?!?
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Zarqawi Captured?
In a somewhat funny twist of fate, I have received unconfirmed reports that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi may have been captured in a raid in the Baghdad area.
(Simultaneously launched by Bravo Romeo Delta from Demosophia, The Jawa Daily News, & Anticipatory Retaliation)
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Let us hope this is true!
Posted by: Cindy at January 04, 2005 12:05 PM (O1SIn)
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Captured? You mean he did not die fighting? What a coward! The Army should plut him before a firing squad! I volunteer but I want an old M14.
Rod Stanton
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 12:29 PM (tHUgl)
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Rod - if you kill him, we can't milk him or remand him to the gentle caresses of the Iraqi government who, I am sure, have plenty of things they wish to talk about with him.
Then shoot him.
Then, I am sure there are a multidue of relatives who have died due to his actions, who would like nothing more than to talk and express their grief with pliers, power drills, carpet knifes and broken bottles.
Then shoot him.
With a rock salt gun.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at January 04, 2005 01:16 PM (kiA+F)
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If they did capture him, we would deny it first. Then I would imagine we would torture the living piss out of him for info. (no pics this time please)
Then, Perhaps he should be given a boob job and put in a prison for some quality ass raping. THen perhaps after a week of that, give him the Louima treatment with a dirty plunger. Then torture him some more for the hell of it. Make him eat a pork chop, cut his nuts off, boil them in pigs blood and make him eat it. then kill him.
Posted by: Obdiah Snooks at January 04, 2005 02:14 PM (yBHNA)
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I read that too, over at http://haganah.us/haganah/index.html. Is it true??? *fingers crossed* OMG, it's another Christmas miracle!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at January 04, 2005 02:44 PM (ZcUkT)
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If he was in the control of the Iraqis I doubt if they would do anymore to him than they have to Saddam. Most still don't understand those people. They will forgive and forget anything if the Islamofacist clerics say his crimes were done for the good of Islam.
I don't trust their politicians any more than I trust their soldiers.
His immediate execution would be the only option. Holding him for trial would only result in more hostages. This man should not be taken alive. Nor should osama or any of the terrorist leaders. Saddams sons are no longer a threat because they are dead. As they should be.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 03:11 PM (xRptl)
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I hear Osama snitched on Zarqawi because he was getting all the attention lately. MSM needs to carry this story.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 03:18 PM (xRptl)
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That's right, let's kill them and turn them into the martyrs they want to become.
I'd be surprised if we ever hear that bin Laden or Zarqawi are captured or killed. If you kill them, you turn them into myths whose deaths would inspire millions more. If you publicly capture them, you risk having endless hostage takings, killings, bombings as their followers demand their release. If you capture them in secret and don't publicize it, you could do anything you want to them and none of their followers would ever know.
Posted by: Venom at January 04, 2005 03:22 PM (dbxVM)
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BRD that may be why you got a commission and I was a noncom. I stand corrected.
Rod
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 05:37 PM (tHUgl)
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Rod,
I'm flattered and humbled. But I am not commissioned.
Just a pointy-headed fellow with a mean streak than can be cultivated from time to time.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at January 05, 2005 09:21 AM (kiA+F)
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You guys are funny. Zarqawi should be tortured in every possible way, as you've all stated for what he has done to so many people. We'd be sinking to his level but I think for once we could handle doing that - get the plastic suits out - don't want to get all bloody now, do we?
:-)
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 04:34 PM (D39Vm)
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i like all these ideas but shuldnt we do this to all muslems that do not make an efort to help catch the bad ones.and if there are any good ones lets just take them out so they dont make any more of these little demons we call muslim.
Posted by: lou at January 14, 2005 09:36 AM (44dn9)
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