1 Anyone who can't see that the Palestinian militants are DEFYING Abbas and not carrying out his orders is just dumb. Abbas is not Arafat - just look at his record (he's the only Palestinian I know of who successfully negotiated a temporary ceasefire from Hamas during the 2nd intifadah). *** Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has cut all contact with Mahmoud Abbas until the newly elected Palestinian leader reins in the militants *** Oooooooooooooh..... radical progressive new thinking from the Israelis there! Bravo boys... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_sharon

2 I'm guessing you aren't aware of "hudna", which is often translated as "truce" but really means "strategic truce" or a lie you tell the infidels so that you can rearm and kill them more efficiently next time.

3 Oh, come on Rusty!!! If anybody is out to kill people, it's ARIEL SHARON. Don't be blind here now. The problem is Ariel Sharon; he does not want peace with the Palestinian people. What he wants is to wipe every Palestinian on this earth. Abbas got a call from Sharon because he was pressured to make that call but he never had and never will have any intention for peace between Israel and Palestine. You say how many Israeli's were killed - why don't we keep track of how many Palestinians get killed every day by Ariel Sharon???? It's one thing to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah, but ABBAS has no control over them. Even after he was elected, they said that they were not going to follow the orders of Abbas. This is a GOOD man. Ariel Sharon is NOT a good man and never has been. Cindy

4 If Sharon actually gave a damn, he would work with Abbas, the EU and others and follow the peace plan. With all of them together, they could go after the terrorists. How many Palestinians were killed yesterday? more than Israeli's. Cindy

5 Uhhhhh, Cindy... small problem with your thesis: there are still Palestinians alive. If Sharon really wanted to, he could have killed them all by now pretty easily.

6 >>>How many Palestinians were killed yesterday? more than Israeli's. So Palestinians suck at war. What's your point? More Germans were killed in WW II than Americans too.

7 Tall Dave : POLITICS!!

8 Martin and Rusty's point was the same as mine. I just said it differently.

9 Not much point in a negociated peace. The Palensaninas will either kill or ignore any leader that makes peace. To Isreal....Build the wall high, they want the whole thing!

10 Brad, The World Court Ordered Sharon to take down that wall and he has refused an has actually continued making that wall. He is losing support from his neighbors,the European Union, the UN although they aren't any help to anyone and hopefully will be disbanded for all the good they do. Even the US is trying to deal with Sharon but he just continues to do what he wants,even when his own people protest against him - so no,that man should be taken out. AND just because someone is a Palestinian does not make them a terrorist. Cindy

11 World court, UN. More expensive bullshit.

12 Grey Rooster, we all agree that the UN is nothing but bullshit.Even Bush tried to get that message across when he gave out AmericanCorps as a place to send direct donations and now there's a commericial with his father and Clinton on it - their mission is to raise a long term collection of funds for rebuilding in South Asia. Someone also has to make new maps; things are no longer the way it used to be. We also need it here in our own country. How much does Kerry have left after his Presidential run? What is he going to do with it? Why not donate it all? Nah, that would be too good of him and he does not have that in him. Someday someone will take a bulldozer to the UN building and push it into the nearest river in NYC and send home all those Secretaries and Prime ministers who live here for free, never pay taxes, as well as never getting anything done. This was another long discussion we had here on this site and you'll find it in the archives where are the good stuff is. Cindy

13 Well Cindy, Let's say we give the Palestanians everything they wan't. Isreal is now more of a rump state than it is now. Now wall, same problems. We have just extended the refugee camp to what was formally productive land. Same problems,new demands,no willingness by the Palestinan legal authority to round up,arrest, prevent the terrorist. Your looking for a solution that does not exist. My advice...start going to church and understand that this is all coming to an end.

14 As usual Cindy is right and the rest of you are racist! Sorry but that's the way I see it. You're all so dimisssive of the rights of man vis a vis Arabs. Where's the humanity? Why can't you just pause & empathise with all the non-white civilians that get caught up in this mess. Having dark skin and being skeptical of the world's only superpower DOES NOT MAKE YOU A TERRORIST! For you own sakes I hope none of you believe in Karma or reincarnation.

15 No Martin, I don't believe In any of THAT shit.

16 MARTIN: Who was dancing in the streets at 9/11? They caused my disgust all by themselves. Racist? Yea. Americans are better than they because Americans don't act that way. It's called the evolutionary scale of which their actions show they are lower on the scale. Just the way it is. Blame God. Not me. I didn't do it. He did. I would have done it different. Remember if you call those that don't favor the Palestinians Racist. What are those that don't favor the Jews? As for me. I don't care for either one.