Abu Musab al Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq has released a new video of the two day assault on the Abu Ghraib prison. A short version of the video may be
. The entire video may be downloaded here (see April 6th). Images from the video are posted below.
What is so interesting about the video is it reveals just how ineffective the terrorist organization was at penetrating Abu Ghraib. Abu Ghraib is a sprawling complex, and the terrorist fire at it from a very far distance. It's a wonder that 2 of the 7 suicide bombers were able to get any where near the walls of the prison.
For instance, as far as I can tell, this is as close as the film maker ever got to the prison. You can see the lights of Abu Ghraib in the distance. (Click images to enlarge)
Throughout the video, the terrorists seem to be firing on the complex with AK-47 gunfire. But the shots are fired from what appear to be well over 1000 yards, making their effectiveness minimal at best. Only twice in the video do we see what appear to be explosions, possibly from mortar fire or from the suicide bombers. The image above shows the maximum effects of those explosions.
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They are posting this video, afteir their mission failed miserably? What kind of propaganda is that? lol
Posted by: efuseakay at April 07, 2005 05:17 PM (crRNX)
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Idiots simply idiots.
They must like losing.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:01 PM (CBNGy)
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Morons--killing their fellow morons.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:04 PM (SENte)
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Where were these brave warriors during the Sadaam years? Surely they must have had some practice assaulting that vile prison. No?
Posted by: slickdpdx at April 07, 2005 06:17 PM (MjGRu)
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Perhaps they were motivated to avenge the raping of young boys in Abu Ghraib?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:33 PM (FV4oJ)
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Collin,
they've already stated that their attacks on Abu Graib is to avenge the holding of female prisoners.
Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:35 PM (8e/V4)
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"Perhaps they were motivated to avenge the raping of young boys in Abu Ghraib?"
Wrong, R2D2. Just another fantasy.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:39 PM (SENte)
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Why did I know the traitor collin baber was going to make that post. Truth. I knew in advance exactly what that idiot commie was going to say. Stood here and waited for it. This sick little shit is totally predictable.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:41 PM (CBNGy)
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Dear Greyrooster,
At least this person is able to back up his quotes with reality.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:01 PM (FV4oJ)
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Dear Greyrooster,
Are you denying boys were sodomized with lightsticks at Abu Ghraib?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:03 PM (FV4oJ)
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Collin,
Were you ever at abu ghraib?
Ever been to a Turkish prison?
What's your fetish here?
Posted by: Whiff at April 07, 2005 09:09 PM (O9R4n)
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Collin, I will grant that. The facts seem to indicate it. However, there is little evidence to suggest that that was a widespread practice. And it's disgusting. However, most of the claims of abuse are much more vague. Like, "I was humiliated when a female saw me naked" or "I was scared by the sound of dogs."
Further, such abuse happens every day most prisons in the world. Which is terrible. But we didn't see them attacking Saddam's prisons which were thousands of times worse and where torture, REAL TORTURE, was a matter of policy.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:22 PM (JQjhA)
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By leaving such heinous acts unpunished, the United States is unwittingly dragging itself down into a sordid quagmire of violence and retribution over there in Iraq.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 09:38 PM (FV4oJ)
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Collin,
Without defending what actually did happen at Abu Graib, there is no evidence of sodomy having occurred.
Posted by: David at April 07, 2005 10:19 PM (8e/V4)
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Dear David,
Come to my blog and you'll see.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 11:15 PM (FV4oJ)
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Kofi Annan has urged the UN to agree on a universal definition of terrorism...This raises an academic problem: wasn't the centuries-old definition of terrorism available in dictionaries universally accepted? Has not, for the first time, the UN taken over responsibilty of defining a phenomenon? What if not all states agree to incorporate the UN definition in their books? Even if terrorists are bracketed into a definition, won't they remain lawless and engaged in their activities? The UN approach appears to be dealing with punishment - a narrow approach for the big problem.
Posted by: Otocon. at April 08, 2005 12:28 AM (PM/BC)
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Otocon,
we already know what terrorism is, we know what treason is, we know what war crimes really are, we know zionism isn't racism, etc., and we don't need no unelected Third world bureaucrats at the UN to tell us otherwise.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 08:25 AM (8e/V4)
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'we already know what terrorism is, we know what treason is, we know what war crimes really are, we know zionism isn't racism, etc., and we don't need no unelected Third world bureaucrats at the UN to tell us otherwise.'
We're in a war and because the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. What should they do, blow kisses?
We sure do know what war crimes are and we've exempted ourselves from any punitive repercussions.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 09:24 AM (/+dAV)
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>>>"We're in a war and because the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. What should they do, blow kisses?"
"figting back" against all the little Eichmans.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 09:58 AM (8e/V4)
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Yup. Little Eichmans.
When I was growing up I thought that there was something inherently wrong with German people. They caused 2 world wars after all. But it is becoming obvious that Americans are no better.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:11 AM (/+dAV)
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>>>"They caused 2 world wars after all. But it is becoming obvious that Americans are no better."
Greg,
if that's what you think of America and its people, why would you think we'd want to change to please you and your type?
It's no better a reason to change than pleasing Al-Qaida is a reason to change. On the contrary, it only serves to confirm our position.
Pissing off the right people is usually a good sign we're doing something right.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 11:45 AM (8e/V4)
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Sadly, it may take a humiliating defeat to change America. That is what happens to every aggressor in the end. But there may be hope yet. The peace movement in America is way ahead of schedule compared to the peace movement during the Vietnam war. We know we were lied into a war so when the Bushies go after Iran the peaceniks will be out in full force. I attended protests prior to the Iraq invasion. I girl was shot with a rubber bullet in the face in Oakland CA. It's likely there will be another Kent State like incident when we go to war against Iran. That will be the turning point and the people will turn against the government just as they did in Vietnam.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:57 AM (/+dAV)
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>>>"That is what happens to every aggressor in the end."
Greg,
And if in the end we are not defeated, will you admit that everything you ever believed was wrong?
I don't believe we will be defeated, because we are not agressors in the traditional sense of the word.
Yes, we do remake the world in our image, but it's a good image, and the people over there like it (the people that count, that is).
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 12:40 PM (8e/V4)
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I'd ban Greg, but his posts often are so revelatory.....
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 08, 2005 01:02 PM (JQjhA)
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Please don't ban Greg. He's a great foil, and polite for the most part.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 01:22 PM (8e/V4)
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Let's quit pretending that we are acting for the benefit of the world's down trodden. We are acting in our own selfish interests. A recent CIA assesment forcasts that the economies of China and India will be as large as that of the USA in the year 2025. They're already siphoning off "our" oil. We are trying to position are selves so we control resources for which we will be competing with India and China. If you look over the hill, a war with China is inevitable and we are in the process of posturing ourselves for this eventuality. Now if you want to admit to that you might convince me that we are the right track. But your insistance that we are out to help others is just baby talk.
Thanks for not banning me Rusty, that's mighty white of you.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:39 PM (/+dAV)
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>>>"Let's quit pretending that we are acting for the benefit of the world's down trodden. We are acting in our own selfish interests."
Greg,
Of course. But our own self-interests often coincide with the iterests of the downtrodden. Iraq is a perfect example. And that's a good thing, and I celebrate it. You Leftists should too if you really care about "the pooooor".
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 01:55 PM (8e/V4)
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I'm a liberterian Catholic. Hardly a leftist.
This 2 party system is killing us. Both spend us into oblivion. Between the 2 of them our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendment rights are under fire. The American people are being beaten by a "2 man tag team of wrestlers" and with every new presidency we have more and more government intrusion. I'm guessing you're a loyal Republican.
We need to get out of debt. Maybe a war with China should come sooner rather than later. Why wait until they''re fully industrialized? And for God's sake why help them industrialize? That's what "multiinnational" coorporations are doing. They have no alliiegance to America. We should tell the Chinese, Japanese and the South Koreans to shove the US debt they hold where the sun don't shine and give the American taxpayers some relief. Then we abolish the Federal Reserve and print our own Fucking money like Kennedy wanted to so we don't have to pay interest on fiat money. It costs the Fed 10 cents to print a $1000 bill and then we pay interest on it. Bulllshit. Americans shouldn't be the chattle of international bankers.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 02:13 PM (/+dAV)
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>>>"I'm a liberterian Catholic. Hardly a leftist."
greg,
I'm glad to hear that. That is far better than being a Leftist.
But the Federal Reserve in turn repays that interest back to the U.S. Treasury. That simple fact is something the conspiracy theorists conveniently leave out.
The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury.
The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain. And the purpose of the Fed is primarily to serve as a safeguard against abuse by politicians bent on political gain.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 03:21 PM (8e/V4)
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Collin,
One thing is sure: Iraq has been set on the road to democracy. This is going to be a bumpy road with many zig-zags. But, provided theUS-led coalition does not lose its nerve, but stays committed until the new Iraq can defend itself against its domestic and foreign foes, the Iraqi experience could inspire democratic change in other Muslim countries in the Middle East.
It would not be easy for Syria to orchestrate another fake election in Lebanon in May. The Khomeinists in Iran would find it hard to present another fixed election in June as a genuine reflection of the popular will. The Egyptians would have a hard time producing another 99.99 per cent majority for President Hosni Mubarak, or his son Gamal, in yet another single-candidate election next year. The Saudis would not be able to indefinitely postpone demands for at least half the seats in the majlis, their parliament, to go to elected members. In Libya Colonel Gaddafi might find it harder to appoint his son as prime minister with a mere acclamation from his henchmen.
The Arab despots and their friends in the West make a meal of the cliche that democracy cannot be imposed by force. But what happened in Iraq was not imposing democracy by force. The US-led alliance used force to remove impediments to democracy. The people of Iraq became the co-liberators of their country, first by not opposing the US-led coalition and then by risking their lives to set their nation on a new path in the face of vicious terrorism.
It is time to see what is happening in Iraq on its own merits, not in the context of an irrational hatred of the United States and George W.Bush. Like it or not, President Bush has got one thing right: give any nation a chance to choose democracy and it will.
Posted by: Otocon. at April 08, 2005 04:01 PM (PM/BC)
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"A recent CIA assesment forcasts that the economies of China and India will be as large as that of the USA in the year 2025."
Obviously Greg has never read all of those CIA assessments for the Soviet Union! That kind of batting average would maybe get you a job as a bench-warmer on a AA team.
Posted by: Don Miguel at April 08, 2005 05:19 PM (+KixN)
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Actually, Collin's ravings and willful ignorance not withstanding, many people have been punished for their acts at Abu Ghraib.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 09, 2005 07:07 PM (xauGB)
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Dear Robin,
Have you heard of the killing of a baby in front of his mother in Abu Ghraib prison?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 08:13 AM (fufbw)
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Collin: Have you heard of the tooth fairy?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 10, 2005 10:02 AM (YTaaE)
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Collin, that is how you deal with getting caught making up stuff? Dude, you need help.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 10, 2005 04:21 PM (xauGB)
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Dear Robin,
"Al-Furat publishes on the front page a 120-word "exclusive" report citing a Saudi national, a former detainee at Abu Ghurayb Prison, describing the killing of a baby in front of his mother in the prison . ."
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 06:29 PM (FV4oJ)
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Collin,
People who try to cover up the atrocities committed in Saddam's Iraq by emphasizing propaganda stories told by terrorists are in fact complicit with what happens in all prisons run by Saddam-like dictators.
You, personally, are aiding and abetting them.
I have no doubt you are doing so because you are still being paid with money stolen from executed citizens of Iraq in the same way the Nazi's financed operations after WWII with money stolen from executed jews.
Posted by: Bruce at April 10, 2005 08:20 PM (Bg9ft)
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Dear Bruce,
Is Seymour Hersh complicit in atrocities he reports?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 11:00 PM (FV4oJ)
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Collin,
Yes, he is. He says he lies. I believe him. You believe whatever you want. I'll not change your mind. I'll also not lift a finger to keep the Islamists from cutting your head off to stop that rattling you call speaking. Good luck keeping yourself alive when the Intifada comes to get you because you ain't Muslim.
Subsunk
Posted by: Subsunk at April 11, 2005 07:37 PM (adHXR)
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Dear Subsunk and Bruce,
It is my recommendation that both of you seek a licensed mental health professional.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 11, 2005 09:19 PM (FV4oJ)
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Bruce wins. Some good thinking. But mostly due to a lack of competition.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 10:57 PM (CBNGy)
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Collin,
Looked at your blog what a load of crap. It is obvious that you need to join up and get yourself killed in a prompt manner. Prove that you believe your own bullshit. Yes war is hell, there will never be a war without death and atrocity. That is what war is. the difference is what happens afterward. Soldiers make mistakes. You might not think too clearly either after putting your life on the line every day for a year. You forget that atrocity was part of Sadam's policy not just an occasional mistake made by an angry soldier. Sadam might give awards for such acts while we punish those who step over the line.
Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2005 09:59 AM (D3+20)
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I was at Abu Ghraib during this last attack.
Our soldiers performed superbly, we suffered no deaths and only a few casualties..that says alot with the amount of rockets, RPG's, and small arms fire they threw at us. You should have seen the many body parts that the terrorists left scattered outside the walls of Abu Ghraib.
Posted by: anonymous at April 23, 2005 02:08 PM (A822D)
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we all should fight terrorism
Posted by: chinedu igweze at June 06, 2005 01:15 PM (VVCla)
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