January 10, 2006

Jonathan Pfender Funeral Threatened Goes Well.


(Updated please scroll down)Evansville Ind. has been preparing to mourn the loss of Private Jonathan Pfender. Mr. Pfender was killed serving in Iraq. The last report I had heard was that his family was awaiting the arrival of his body in Evansville for burial.

FOX59 : Evansville -- An Evansville woman whose son was killed by a bomb in Iraq says she's proud of her son. The Army says 22-year-old Private Jonathan Pfender of Evansville, Indiana, was killed in Bayji, Iraq, during a patrol.

His Father expressed similar pride in an interview on WTVW(sorry no link).

Last night it was brought to my attention that radical group plans to protest this fine you manÂ’s funeral. See this link and make sure you view the entire clip.

WEHT : EVANSVILLE - As the family of a fallen soldier prepares for his funeral, our media partners at the Evansville Courier and Press report the funeral is being targeted by a Kansas based group called the Westboro Baptist Church.

For examples of this groups propaganda see this link and I quote..

Westboro Baptist Church : “God Hates Vets!”

These links do not indicate support, but you have to see it to believe it.

Is it not enough that these people have lost a son? Now these jerks have to “protest a funeral”. Sorry but the proper way to “protest a funeral” is to not go. The proper way to support Mr. Pfender’s family is to respectfully attend. Seems some people just don’t know what rude means any more. What ever happened to “Love your neighbor” or “Do unto others”. If you ask me it’s the members of this group that will be “burning in hell”. Show some respect. I hope Mr. Ellsworth puts you in the old jail about 15 to a cell!

Updated: It's raining like hell on these jerks outside the funeral. Hmm... God's will maybe?.

Update II: Hundreds of supporter stood in the rain in support of Private Pfender and his family, They included Rolling Thunder, Patriotic Guard Riders, VFW, Active Service people and just people. They braved the rain and formed a wall protecting the family from the small number of protestors who were kept to one corner across the street. Supporters also stood watch at the cemetery. In fact the protestors were so outclassed that they left early. Hundreds of bikes showed up to cheers and totally drown them out Apparently the determination of the supporters in the face of wind, Rain and falling temps was far greater than the Westboro Baptist Church's taste for foul weather. They left after a short time. Not one supporter left early. . Said one Patriotic Guard Rider, “It’s all about respect for a fallen comrade”.

WEHT : Pfender's Aunt Vicki Wolf said, "Jonathan would have loved all the veterans the support, forget the protestors this is glory."

Another Family member via Patriotic Guard Riders :

I promised the mother of Pvt. Pfender - she is Peggy Hammond that I would post a quote about her son on our site. I think it's revealing of this young man's character - a true Patriot - It is: "He wanted people to know President Bush didn't come to our door," Hammond said. "He went to his."

Illinois and Indiana are considering laws to make distrubing the peace at a funeral a felony. Indiana at less than 500 ft. ILL less than 300 ft.

Why they got run plumb off! Hell Yeah! Still we grieve for the family and only hope the support can help a bit on a difficut day.

Hat Tip: Dave and the rest of the readers and bloggers who helped fill us/me in on these nuts and those who work against them.

Link to Mudville Gazzette open post.

Posted by: Howie at 10:00 PM | Comments (30) | Add Comment
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1 Howie, Not sure if you know this or not but Fred Phelps is a disbarred Lawyer, his "Church" is mostly made up of his family members which are mostly lawyers. Many people believe that this is a method to get assaulted, and then sue the municipality for not providing enough police protection! Before he protested soldiers funerals, he picketed gay peoples funerals.

Posted by: dave at January 09, 2006 09:23 AM (CcXvt)

2 I think it's disgusting that this moron Phelps is still alive, but he makes his living by suing people once he's provoked them into action, and he's married to a lawyer. If there is a god, he should get busy on this one and drop a house on him or something.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 09:23 AM (0yYS2)

3 Nope I had no Idea who this jerk was! (I hope he reads that)

Posted by: Howie at January 09, 2006 09:26 AM (D3+20)

4 Some of Phelps' family members have managed to escape his madness. It's a real testament to strength of character. What that says to me is that idiots are born. Not bred.

Posted by: Oyster at January 09, 2006 09:34 AM (osKlJ)

5 Even most liberals I know think these people are a bunch of whack-jobs. If it's the same website I'm thinking of that you have linked, I'm pretty sure this is the same group of nuts who came down to Houston to protest at NASA after the Columbia accident. I may be wrong about the timing but their protest was so bizarre that I can't quite remember what it was. I just remember that pretty much everyone of every political persuasion was appalled. I'll see if I can find it if no one else remembers but I'm almost positive it was the 'godhatesfags' website that they were associated with. These people were so far to both the left and right that they came back around and met on the other side when time and space collapsed in on them.

Posted by: slug at January 09, 2006 09:37 AM (wcNc2)

6 God forgive me, but there are times when I believe in the concept of a “Star Chamber”. This is one of those times.

Posted by: Brad at January 09, 2006 09:41 AM (6mUkl)

7 This past spring the city of Santa Fe NM was visited by the Westboro Baptist church of Topeka, Kansas –as you know is a hateful, militant group that promotes words of hate and death as though it were God’s word. Following is a statement that was published in a New Mexico newspaper. The statement was made by a person who opposed the message of this church. Poet Joanna Cattonar, 63, waved a large placard with the words: "Fear + Ignorance = Bigotry.'' She said she got her orders to attend the rally from Vice President Dick Cheney. "When the vice president was speaking at the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, he said that hatred and intolerance must be opposed before they turn into action,'' she said. Cattonar said some activists suggested ignoring the anti-gay group. "But what happened when people ignored the situation in the 1930's? It led Hitler to power'' How can freedom of speech continue to protect people like this, while their actions directly affect others by denying the freedom for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Is this freedom of speech, or just freedom to spread HATE? This Westboro Baptist church hates the Gay-Community, African-Americans, Canada, Sweden, the Fire Department of NY, victims of 911, Christian Churches, The Pope, Judaism, America, Our American Troops, and the list goes on and on. Many of the groups they despise are specifically named on their hate propaganda, picket signs, and their many websites. They not only hate, but wish death on all that they abhor. This sick, so called church spreads its hate through picketing in our streets, provoking attacks, with abusive vulgar language. Worst of all, they endanger their own young children, having them man the front lines in their combative demonstrations – attempting to create a confrontation and cause for one more of their frivolous lawsuits.

Posted by: West at January 09, 2006 09:48 AM (edYmr)

8 Tar, feather, rail.........enough said!

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 09, 2006 10:01 AM (rUyw4)

9 I think that the situation in America is going to deteriorate to the point that it will fall on the citizens to go out and do something, as in the old days. This moron should be found hanging from an overpass somewhere.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 10:21 AM (0yYS2)

10 Kind of like what happened to that horrid woman Madeline Murray O'Hare. What her murderers did was wrong, but no one really misses her.

Posted by: Oyster at January 09, 2006 11:44 AM (osKlJ)

11 Yup, it's time to take some of these loonies to fist city and face a sympathetic jury on assault charges - surely to God the Legion and VFW will muster and face off with these a**holes - I'm sure if some old vet were to accidentally stumble and ram a flag staff down one of their throats, no charges would be brought

Posted by: goesh at January 09, 2006 12:21 PM (vX0fY)

12 these guys would be glad to help. http://www.patriotguard.org/

Posted by: walker at January 09, 2006 12:35 PM (WGCpU)

13 Checked out some of the sites related to this group - and I swear - I can feel the presense of Mike Crook - somewhere. Its errie! Any idea Bluto?

Posted by: hondo at January 09, 2006 12:45 PM (3aakz)

14 I've heard of these wipes before. All they do is preach hate and death to those who disagree with their personal worldviews. Intolerant in the extreme is the only phrase that describes them. They don't belong on the internet.

Posted by: kip at January 09, 2006 01:00 PM (UHKaK)

15 One day, We the People will have had enough of scumbags like this, and our completely corrupt, inept, incompetent government refusing to do anything about it, there'll be a reckoning. It's about time for the people to rise up in arms and take our country back.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 01:46 PM (0yYS2)

16 wow, just been checking out these boards and the extremist views shared by some are disturbing. whatever happened to just loving thy neighbor? good and honest people can even be black sometimes....or possible not-christians. does that shock you? if it does, you need to get back to reality or at least stop breeding.

Posted by: smith at January 09, 2006 10:22 PM (hfctS)

17 But besides that, you are going to hell Declared yourself God, have you? so now you are the one that decides where I may go after I die? It doesn't matter, you guys only play at Religion, and your drive-by moonbatting is a joke -- like your whole organization.

Posted by: dave at January 09, 2006 11:37 PM (CcXvt)

18 All those wonderful folks at Westboro Baptist are fine, upstanding Republicans and hence can do NO wrong. Shame on you all.

Posted by: Steve at January 10, 2006 02:30 AM (hfyZt)

19 What the ....?

Posted by: Oyster at January 10, 2006 06:11 AM (YudAC)

20 I suggest Magor and his buddies need to find Jesus. Hey try reading the new testament you damn nuts (OTHER THAN REVALATION I SUGGEST JOHN) and guess what this board is not your personal propaganda tool. It's mine so... Bye Bye.

Posted by: Howie at January 10, 2006 09:30 AM (D3+20)

21 Ahh that felt good to dump jackasses like that. Oh and for the record they annoy me. Tell me jerk were those "real" names? and I get all comments and IP addresses emailed now. I have you Now! HA.. HA.. HA.. !!! Jawa Rocks

Posted by: Howie at January 10, 2006 09:34 AM (D3+20)

22 Fuck you smith and steve. How's that for loving thy neighbor? Get off this blog you stupid liberal morons.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 10, 2006 12:12 PM (0yYS2)

23 Me breed more and more red state rednecks. Haha! I'm a breeding maniac. I have four, count them, four redneck crazy Christian kids. They will all vote Republican and watch Fox News. And join the military. And kill jihadists all over the World. Take that, you liberals!

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 10, 2006 04:36 PM (rUyw4)

24 Good work joe.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 10, 2006 06:58 PM (0yYS2)

25 All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not lest ye be judged. So yeah I read the Bible to commit a homosexual act is sinful. God cannot stand the sight of sin. That is any sin. God does not grade sin. He cannot stand the sight of any of it. The westboro sin of hate offends him equally as the immoral acts prohibited in the bible. WWJD Would Jesus say "I know this man" to the Father when speaking of a hater? I dunno

Posted by: Howie at January 10, 2006 10:15 PM (D3+20)

26 An Indiana state senator has proposed making such hate protests a felony. The story from the Indianapolis Star is here (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060111/NEWS02/601110476) Best of luck, ProCynic

Posted by: ProCynic at January 11, 2006 08:47 AM (bfkgE)

27 An intolerant bunch ....... everyone who does not agree should be hung

Posted by: john Ryan at January 11, 2006 09:49 AM (TcoRJ)

28 John, are you drunk? Oh, yeah, give my regards to your mother!

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 11, 2006 10:14 AM (rUyw4)

29 Now you're getting the idea John. I'm easy to get along with as long as everyone understands that I'm right. See? It's not so hard.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 11, 2006 05:38 PM (0yYS2)

30 Yeesh. Now they're targeting fallen heroes? *sigh* I'd love to say I've lost all respect for Fred Phelps and his "church" and he makes me sick... Unfortunately that happened a LONG time before this. Love, Respect and condolences to Pvt. Pfender's friends and family. -=e=-

Posted by: -=e=- at January 12, 2006 10:05 PM (69064)

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