1 Your analysis is dead on. And look at the response -- no comments after 2 hours. We just don't seem to care about this major turning point in American history. It's like when FDR sold out Eastern Europe at Yalta or something. Do we have to wait another 25 years before we recognize what the hostages in Iran represent? These Americans were brutalized for 444 days by an evil equal or worse than anything the world has seen, and we simply don't care.

2 Stotch informs me that he didn't take into account the time difference, or that it took me an hour to write that, or that he is a complete moron--hence the odd comment about the time thingy.

3 Can't it be all of the above? The time difference *plus* I'm a moron? But seriously, November 4th should be reflected upon. Maybe not like 12/7 or 9/11, but very seriously. I'm seriously.

4 I'm here....Thank you Rusty for expressing the views that I have harbored ever since the towers were bombed in '93...that this started a LONG time ago, before Bush, before Clinton, before Reagan, etc. Too bad the other anti-war bleeding heart lib's on this blog can't see that. Especially CooqarUK, who chooses what he reads and hears, and avoids the rest, so he continues his spiel on your Ken Bigley blog. I wonder if he even reads anything else on here, he's so busy calling me a stupid fucking war mongering bitch.

5 Laura: I think the remedy for your concerns is to bookmark Professor Chaos and keep up to date with his posts too. That dude is pretty smart.

6 Hopeful some day Americans and rest of the free world. Will wakeup and get their heads out of their asses. These Jihadis have been filtering into every part of the world so they can their job. So many of us are caught up in our own little world of greed and self bliss. We don't see the big picture . We can hope and prayer. That it wasnt gone to far. I just tried of give peace a chance. They started this shit, so yets finish it and start pulling the weed before their grow over us !!!!!!!

7 Worse than the cash payoff, Carter made political and spiritual payment. He allowed it to suck the life out of his presidency and the country. That's what turned it from fifty prisoners to 'America Held Hostage'.

8 It is indeed sobering to see laid out, as you articulately have, both the stakes and the true timeline of the struggle in which America is currently engaged. It makes the notion of a "rush to war" all the more specious.

9 Yeah, nice history. Why don't you talk about Reagan traded arms for the hostages? That was genius.

10 darren: You're right -- it was all America's fault for being so evil. We should all kill ourselves for being so bad and such degenerates. But you go first, ok? God the left is full of morons ...

11 I believe it really began in '73 when we (Nixon) ordered an emergency arms resupply airlift to Israel to save them - the Sovs were doing the same for Egypt and Syria and the Israelis were definitely on the ropes... funny how people have forgotten just how close Israel forces came to being utterly over-run / anihilated in '73. Of course, in direct response, the Saudis + GCC declared economic war on us with the oil embargo. It continues to this day, just beneath the oily smarmy smiles, PR campaign, and bribed State Dept. I don't know an exact date, but that is when the real Islamists, the Wahhabis, declared war on America.

12 I like a good history first thing in the morning.....thanks rusty

13 The thought occured to me while reading this post that the Americans held hostage in 79' were all eventually released with their heads still firmly on their shoulders... I guess what we see today of brutal beheadings by the jihadiis would be called progress???

14 Rusty that is the greatest load of self righteous xxxx that I have ever read. Please cease with this they started it, crap. Stop trying to sound like the innocent victim in all of this. Whether you like it or not your country is as guilty in this war as the terrorists you are fighting.

15 Here we go again...another foreigner trying to lick his wounds because he's so upset that HIS leader got HIS country into the so called "illegal invasion" with the US. Get off the blog and complain to Blair, leave us Americans alone.

16 James, really, an militant Arab megalomaniac named Mohammed started it in the 7th century.

17 The war started July 15, 1958 when Ike sent the Marines to Lebanon. Unless you want to include that incident in 1948 or the Suez Crisus of 1956... The secular Cold War, Vietnam, the Space Race, Watergate, and other things distracted us. But we've been fighting for more than 25 years...

18 "You see, Carter negotiated a deal with the terrorists." True, but so did Reagan. Remember that whole "Iran-Contra" ordeal? So, you see, it doesn't really matter who's in power - they'll negotiate with the enemy if it's in their best interests to do so.

19 Laura, I am not British. I have told you this countless times before. I am not licking any wounds at all as I have no wounds to lick. Just as a matter of interest, can I ask how old are you?

20 Sorry, it goes back to old Mo. It got stifled at Vienna in 1683. Then the Ottomans got bitch slapped in WWI. Nope, we forgot about the war Dar al Islam waged against Dar al Harb. http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/History/dar_islam-harb.htm They never forgot about us though.

21 Beth, I am not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Being anti war does not make one a liberal. I find you neither amazing nor entertaining just another example of your average know nothing. What does amaze me though, is how many experts on Islam and the Middle East we have on this blog. Five years ago, I doubt you could have pointed out the middle east on a globe, nevermind spell Afghanistan.

22 "What does amaze me though, is how many experts on Islam and the Middle East we have on this blog. Five years ago, I doubt you could have pointed out the middle east on a globe, nevermind spell Afghanistan." Hahahaha! Truer words were never spoken!

23 STOP DOING THIS! I'm tired of all the terrorism propaganda. Sloppily lumping together this and that to make it seem like there's some sort of unified Islamist anti-American threat out there. This is exactly what the neocons are doing, trying to turn the current environment into Cold War II. This is only one step removed from saying that everyone with a towel around their head is the exact same. It's ridiculous. And these analyses, usually conducted by people extremely friendly to the idea of always using American force to protect Israeli interests by brute force, always conveniently neglect to mention the role that Israel has played over the decades in destabilizing the Middle East. I'm not blaming Israel, but I also don't believe in leaving Israel out of the equation entirely as though it's just a friendly bystander, sitting there quietly as madmen run around elsewhere and do diabolical things to people. Give it up, man. This schtick is getting very, very old, and people need to take the time to understand these concepts in depth. Saying that 9/11 is an extension of the 1979 hostage crisis is plausible to many people but it's just flat-out misleading. This is not at all reality. There are a million things that contributed to 9/11. An even bigger (early) factor was the Six Day War, which helped to spark a trend of counter-government, counter-peace, and pro-Islamic-extremist revolutionary activity in Egypt, ultimately spawning the groups that Ayman al-Zawahiri (al-Qaeda co-leader) would join. But Islamic extremist terrorism as we know it really doesn't predate the existence of Israel in the Middle East. What a strange friggin' coincidence that is. I'm not bashing Israel. On the contrary, I believe Israel must be allowed to prosper, and I have great faith in the country to find a way to better fit into a delicate environment and be safe and secure. But there is no getting around this. Israel is the 2500 ton gorilla in the region that has been shaking s**t up for the last few decades, and we have GOT to find a long-term solution to all of the tension there. The other thing that truly bugs me about some of these analyses is that the Islamic portion of the terrorism is largely incidental. This terrorism is POLITICAL. Politics is what's behind it. For the most part, Arab or regional pride. Islamic extremism is the tool that the terrorists employ in order to enhance the effectiveness of their operation. They believe in it, too, but embracing Islamic extremism is the end-result of a rebellion against a mainstream they felt was laying down and subjugating itself to Western interests. This is not fundamentally about Islam, Islamism, or religion. There's nothing in the Koran that promotes this kind of terrorism, or says to kill Americans, yadda yadda. Take out Islam, and terrorism still exists. Take out the politics, and there IS NO TERRORISM. The first well-known example of Palestinian terrorism was the Munich Olympics massacre of 1972. Bruce Hoffman, a well-known terrorism scholar, wrote that those terrorists "were suicidal -- not in the sense of religious terrorists who surrender their lives to ascend to heaven but in the sense that we could send them anywhere to do anything and they were prepared to lay down their lives to do it. No question. No hesitation. They were absolutely dedicated and absolutely ruthless." You have to look at the roots of this terrorism if you want to understand it. 1972 was following immediately on the heels of that Six Day War, in which Israel acquired virtually all of the Palestinian territory, technically illegally. Palestinians had also been denied entry into the Olympic games, and they felt particularly shafted all-around by the world. They weren't committing terrorism in order to usher in some Islamic state; this was politics, pure and simple. (And if you want to trace the root of negotiating with terrorists, look no further than Germany's asinine negotiations with the guys who carried out the '72 massacre. Still, modern terrorism didn't really fully evolve until the 80's and really more so the 90's, primarily when those looking for any sort of guerilla advantage against greater powers determined that this was an option that could work. In reality, it's a stupid solution because it turns off the people around the world whose help those fighting for a cause need most.) Anyone who studies bin Laden's history and motivations knows that he's obsessed with politics, too. Some people, including our own dolt of a president, like to reduce his motivations to wanting to turn America into an Islamist state or something equally absurd. Bin Laden may be dumb, but he's not stupid. You think he believes he can turn us into an Islamist state? When he was in Afghanistan, he defeated the Soviet Union with our help, and brags about it to this day. Did he turn them into an Islamist state? No, of course not. There's a lot bin Laden doesn't understand, but he's not quite THAT oblivious. I'm just tired of seeing these ULTRA-SPUN analyses of terrorism. People don't seem to give a s**t about the truth. All they want to do is manipulate terrorism to their political ends. Well, you know what? That's BS. [p.s. For the record, here are a few of the more RECENT political reasons behind 9/11. Saudi Arabia didn't defend Kuwait, but left it up to the Americans. Bad for Arab pride. Then they let the Americans leave troops in their country. Even worse for Arab and Muslim pride. Then they let the US place sanctions on the Iraqis. Also bad. Then throw in the US's perceived ultra-bias toward Israel in the region, and it's frequent seeming-ignorance of Arab needs and concerns, and voila. There are other reasons, but these are a few of the bigger ones.]

24 You are right Venom. I started reading the Quran after 9-11. Its really horrifying. You should try it.

25 NO- I searched long and hard to try to find justifications for what you posted there, but the more I searched the more I found that guys like Robert Spencer over at www.jihadwatch.com are right on target.

26 James you're a foreigner to me if you are against Bush and his justified invasion of Irag to get Saddam. It's none of your business how old I am, has nothing to do with why we are on this blog.

27 Laura.......that's fine. Delighted that you didn't resort to telling me Fxxk Off like you normally do. My, haven't we grown up all of a sudden!

28 CNN Headline News did a report on the 25th Anniversary.

29 Everyone open your Noam Chomsky playbook to page one and read along with me: "Blame America First."

30 Only if you give me reason to. Sarcasm and insults were result in hostility.

31 I sincere wish for a very "Crappy Anniversary" gift of 72 virgins to all the mad mullahs.

32 JAMES: FUCK OFF

33 LAURA: James is a foreigner. Want his address?

34 Roost: He says he's not from the UK, but that doesn't mean he still ain't a foreigner. Even if he IS from the US, he IS a foreigner if he's against our President. Tough shit.

35 QUOTE: "Here we go again...another foreigner trying to lick his wounds because he's so upset that HIS leader got HIS country into the so called "illegal invasion" with the US. Get off the blog and complain to Blair, leave us Americans alone." Oh Laura, now I'm hurt. The Black Watch are out there taking on the insurgents in Baghdad (the Black Watch actually has a longer history than the USA as you know it, show some respect.) True Brits don't blame Tony Blair (even though I hate the guy and his Government). Britain will, at this rate, become an little Islamic Island within the next 100 years or so due to us leaving these shores and the exponential growth of the Islamic community. Many of us Brits don't want that to happen. We like England, we like Scotland and we like Wales and Ireland. Tell us Brits to leave you Americans alone but, to Blair's credit, he is hanging his balls on the line in support of the USA .

36 Of course the islamists declared war on an innocent America that never has any negative impact on the freedom of Arab peoples in their nations. Be it from the Saudi Royal Family to the Shah of Iran, geostrategic maneuvering for oil could never have led the US in its realpolitik to commit crimes. The problem with this analysis is twofold. First it ignores US support for islamic fanatics (see RAmbo 3). Second it assumes that "islamic radicals" are the positive force that actuates policy. Islamic terrorists hate the USA, but they are not that strong. If Al Queada had the resources and expertise, there would have been 200 saudi hijackers, 40 planes, and 5,000,000$ involved. The fact is, there wasnt. Sure Al Queada hates the USA, but they are not that strong as an intl force. In fact, statistically speaking, you should be more afraid of your neighbors teenage daughter driving on the cell phone. Also, instead of justifying giving up the Bill of Rights to fundamentalist Christians, you should note the fact that Americans murdered more than 16,000 fellow Americans last year. Al Quaeda in the USA: 0. Ernie

37 Mr. No: Thanks for posting your "PS". Those are exactly OBL's stated grievances. It also neatly sums up the need for disposing of Saddam Hussein's regime. Whether or not that was your intention, I don't know. Either way, outstanding!

38 I've never seen such an orgy of ignorance in my life, but hey, this is a free country so keep it up! Now, there is absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION to the argument that Islamists (as a group) are targeting America, period. It's simply not true -- although thanks to Bush's policies, it's more true now than it was a few years ago. As far as Islam being evil or something, you know guys, America has been through this BS before. We don't need to devolve as a nation. Stop being so blindly bigoted and wake up. This is not what America is about. If you're condemning these guys, I hope it's based on personally sitting down and talking with them, not simply reading out-of-context excerpts or reading propaganda from someone who hates Islam. If that's what you're doing, you're a damned embarrassment to this country. Let me quote Fareed Zakaria if I can. He said, "The historian Paul Johnson has argued that Islam is intrinsically an intolerant and violent religion. Other scholars have disagreed, pointing out that Islam condemns the slaughter of innocents and prohibits suicide. Nothing will be solved by searching for 'true Islam' or quoting the Quran. The Quran is a vast, vague book, filled with poetry and contradictions (much like the Bible). You can find in it condemnations of war and incitements to struggle, beautiful expressions of tolerance and stern strictures against unbelievers. Quotations from it usually tell us more about the person who selected the passages than about Islam..." More importantly, if we're condemning Islam, we have to ask, compared to what? George Bush is, by his own (and others') admission, the most born-again Christian president we've had in modern times, and he's gone to war more than any president in modern times. Twice in one term. He thinks God is on his side and guiding him. A Christian God. Guiding him into attacking a country that wasn't doing anything to us. That's what the Arab world sees. You think they're going to buy it when you call Islam a violent religion? Give it up. The era of Western civilization called Christendom -- the Dark Ages -- was known for violence against heretics, crusades against Islam, you name it. All in the name of Christianity. If you think Christianity has a clean record, you're out of your mind. Zakaria writes that "through its long history, Christianity has supported inquisitions and anti-Semitism, but also human rights and social welfare." It's spin, spin, spin, spin from you guys. No one cares about the truth. Now, let me respond to this, by yet another truth-deprived individual. "Thanks for posting your 'PS'. Those are exactly OBL's stated grievances. It also neatly sums up the need for disposing of Saddam Hussein's regime. Whether or not that was your intention, I don't know. Either way, outstanding!" I'm sick of this stuff. I'm posting stuff trying to get at the truth, and all you guys are doing is looking for reasons that your president is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I never said there were NO reasons to invade Iraq. I said the reasons for not invading FAR OUTWEIGHED the reasons for invading. Yes, the Iraq war made it slightly easier for the US to move troops out of Saudi Arabia, altough let's be realistic. We could have done this anytime. Yes, the Iraq war made it possible to lift sanctions against Iraq. However, Colin Powell and others had suggested updating the sanctions regime to make it more effective. There were also a bajillion other alternatives to an impatient, poorly-planned unilateral preemptive war against Iraq. I won't get into them now. However, the invasion of Iraq is by far a larger point of contention for these guys than anything I just listed, so it totally counteracts whatever possible benefit we'd get from these, and then some. Besides, we don't make policy to appease terrorists, although if policy makes sense, we can't let terrorists prevent us from implementing it. After 9/11, Americans were interested in honestly seeking and probing for the truth. The Bush administration has f**ked up all of this, promoting crude bulletpoint BS that has nothing to do with reality. I hate this adminstration for the damage it's doing to America, and you guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves for happily trotting behind it like zombie-drug-induced little lambs.

39 No: Get your facts straight. 1. The DEMOCRAT Clinton took us to war more than any president in history. 2. Comparing Christianity 700 years ago to Islam today is stupid. what the Christians done 700 years ago has nothing to do with today. I am not a Christian, but given a choice I would choose Christianity over the religion of hatred Islam. You're just a Bush hating poor loser with nothing good to say. No solutions, no ideas. Just like yourself, nothing. The majority of people decided against you and your way of thinking. Try being a man accept your loss, and try doing/saying something positive for America. Or better yet. Get the fuck out.

40 Laura: The prick (james)is right. He's not from the UK. G'd day Mate. How's your wallaby?

41 At least,after 9/11, President Bush didnt hide in his office porking some "ho" with a cigar. "I did not have....." "THAT" is what I call "LIP LUSTURE" So, talk about a lying bs'er. I would rather have a president that fights back. I do believe that the people of this great United States are destroying each other..NOW, thousands are wanting to imigrate to Canada, split the nation, burn the flag, burn the image of Bush in efogy(sp)..hmmm,seems to me that I saw some of this behavior on the news coming out of an Arab state....of ....mind...

42 RED DEVIL: Some of us may get to protective. Please don't take it to heart. As I've said before. Most Americans look at the UK as being the bravest nation on earth. Americans should not blame England for the few Bush/republican/America hating loudmouths in the UK. We have just as many here in America. Just a need to strike back I think. Another thing. I LIKE TONY!! And the rest of the brave brits serving in Iraq and other places. Hang it there. The liberal cry babies continue to cry but look who is winning. Most conservatives spend their time on better things than complaining. It's a shame to see the racial changes in England. It will hurt your country. They breed like rats and offer nothing to better your great nation. England will not have solidarity in anything if it continues. Unfortunately, I wonder if some of your immigration policies were forced by some of America's past administations.

43 Yes: Thousands may (I find it hard to believe) wish to move to Canada. But 10's of thousands of Canadians wish to move to America.

44 Red Devil: I apologize! I did not mean that comment for you. But some of the UK'ers on here are making your country look like a bunch of sissy bleeding heart, anti-war, peace loving fuckwits. I am sorry if it appeared that I meant it for the whole country. I am getting tired of arguing with the likes of CooqarUK, who does nothing but sit at his computer and complain about Bush and Blair. He wouldn't even be posting on this blog had his country not become involved, I am sure of it. I know that he is not representative of all people of your country, but he and a few others share the same views and make it difficult for me to believe that anyone over there supports our troops at all. The country is so divided, even now with the election over and people are STILL whining that Kerry didn't win, I hate my country. A soldier wrote on this blog that he is taking down his flag, putting it away in a drawer, because he claims he is now " a man without a country"!!!!! I say if these people are so upset Bush is in for another 4 yrs., pack up and move to Canada, or go help the people of Iraq, since they're complaining about all the innocent people over there.

45 PS OOOPS....I didn't mean *I* hate my country, I was just quoting people who are saying that, because Kerry didn't win. Whew.

46 I see that Iraq's declared a 60 day state of emergency. Is America kicking ASS or what? Yesterday, they said that the civilians were told to flee the area. Why couldn't they have done this shit when they first went there, maybe the beheadings and kidnappings wouldn't have had time to happen?!

47 Rooster.......loved your comments about UK Immigration and Tony Blair. Proves that you haven't got a clue about either. As I have said to Laura on numerous occasions, please engage your brain before posting comments. Were you always a thick,ignorant,redneck racist dickhead? Why dont you crawl back under that slimy rock where you came from, you sad little man. Cant wait to hear back from you and read the same old tiresome bilge that vomits from yourr pen.

48 James: "Can't wait to hear back from you and read the same tiresome bilge that vomits from your pen". It is obvious from that last comment that you taunt and vex people into responding hostilely to your posts. You are purposefully trying to piss people off for a response. Poor, sad little man! Wants attention badly, no matter what the cost. Why don't you go over to the Bigley Blog and you and Cooqar can have a nice little tea party, you fucking faggot! These blogs have turned into nothing but immature rantings and insults, typical responses from pinheads who are sore losers and are so frustrated about the election outcome, that they are grasping at straws because they have lost the fight. Go piss in your beer and leave us alone.

49 Laura......if you read through all the posts that we have shared, you will notice that it is yourself and rooster who have lowered the tone constantly with your personal attacks on any one who has disagreed with either of you. Even whilst not particapating in a certain blog, I have been referred to as all matter of things. Contrary to what you might think, I am not playing devils advocate and deliberately trying to wind people up. I am just amazed at the level of ignorance of some of the contributors. As I have said on numerous occasions we can agree to disagree but still conduct ourselves with a modicum of decorum, a concept that you are incapable of grasping. Now, Rooster is perfectly capable of standing up for himself and I doubt for one moment that his feelings have in any way been hurt, gallant though it is that you should defend his honour. I dont know anything about you other than that you are a foul mouthed mother of a 15 YEAR OLD and that you reside in New York. I just hope that your son does not have to suffer the indignity of reading his mothers drivel. And now using a few of your own choice words, Fuck Off Laura

50 JAMES: Doesn't matter what you believe about me. You are as much an enemy of my country as the terrorists. Just another asshole sticking his nose in business where it doesn't belong. Racist? Maybe, I've always thought the white race was a cut above. of course, I also believe if you're not an American of Nordic heritage you ain't shit. Racist, redneck. Yea, we raise a lot of them in San Francisco, Calif. where I was born and raised. You frigging idiot. Unfortunately, we live in a world that if you think the best quarterback in the NFL is white, you're a racist. If you think that Uganda is full of idiots, you're a racist. But if you think the French are cowardly, trouble making assholes you're not a racist. Oh yea, I forgot, everyone who works for me is white. I've already been called a racist for that. A black competitor who hires only blacks in not a racist. My point is I don't give a damn what you and others like you think. You are an enemy of my country. Therefore you are my enemy. You and types like you give support to the terrorists whether you choose to admit it or not. American service men are put in harms way due to the constant bitching, complaining, lying and anything else America hating assholes like you can come up with. I detest you as much as those that do the beheadings. They swing the knife but you give it credence. You make excuses for their behavior. It's Bush's fault, its the republican's fault, it's Rumfield's fault. You backward prick. My son is in Fallujah today. I'm worried about him, not you. You are nothing but words. Foolish cowardly ones at that. Take a hike. My country doesn't want or need you. You are an embarassment to your country. If you truly have one. Your bullshit is to late. America, it's allies and the freedom lovings Iraqis have started taking care of business. I just hope my son and his buddies remember the beheadings and mutilations when these cowardly bastards kneel at their feet begging as they did before. Myself, I say no quarter for those that don't give it. If you believe America and it's leaders are so wrong, why don't you get a plane ticket over there, put a rag on your head and fight with something more than your mouth. Better get a one way ticket because America is tired playing with you bastards. As my old coach would say. you're 100% with this team or get off the fucking field.

51 Agree to disagree yet still conduct ourselves...blah, blah, blah. You have stooped to Cooqar's level now. Scarey the way you remember me as a mom of a 15 yr. old, what are you, taking notes? When you post drivel that obviously is going to provoke some hostility, you have no one to blame but yourself when the flames start firing back at you. Practice what you preach, and think before you type.

52 MESSAGE TO GREYROOSTER'S SON: MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND ALL THE TROOPS AS YOU GO INTO FALLUJAH. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU ALL AND SUPPORT YOU. GODSPEED.

53 Greyrooster:Smokin analysis.Any waverers take note.The hell fire and brimstone was leaping of the page.Tell your son,that hes in the hearts and minds of ordinary people like me on this blog,strangers to him it is true,some may believe in God, some as I may not,but hes got to know,we care,and in spirit,we are right there with him.For him to know that people like myself care about him,his welfare,that hes okay,though we havent met has got to give him a lift,however small that might be in the scheme of things, it is significant.I believe in the power of the human spirit.The power of people consciousness.That one person projecting these thoughts of keeping him safe,and from harms way has a power.Collectively that power is multyplied a million fold.People will be praying right now.Or like me focusing on an image of your son in their minds eye,willing him to stay safe,wishing him all the luck in the world,mostly hoping that he gets back home safe.To anybody else out there wheather you have religious belief or not,spare a thought for Greyroosters son,or pray or whatever you may do, but most of all mean it. I'm a simple man.I just want to live my life in peace.I welcome strangers fom any land,rich or poor,whatever their religion as long as they dont disturb the peace of myself or my neighbours and dont propogate hate.I believe in the power of good over evil.Your son is one of the soldiers of good.Belief in what you are doing is half the battle.I'm too old to fight.This is the first time in years that I've been itchin to, whatever the cost.At 40 they dont accept you.Greyrooster, I feel fit enough to fire a machine gun,to jog a couple of hundred yards then dive for cover,get by on snatched sleep when you can get it.But you see I just dont get it.You can physicaly do most of whats going on out their but they just don't want to take you because your five or 10 years too old. Its sad.As I said in another comment,I cant believe younger people are not queing around the block to enlist. What is even sadder is that freedom is taken for granted by so many of the populace.People seem too protected,too comfortable. Living their own little lives, in some sort of make believe world. The I'm alright Jack brigade.It's not happening in my back yard.When the Wolf is knocking at the door it is too late.People cannot see the evil that is comming if we dont nip it in the bud right now.There is good and bad in all peoples of the world.I just hope your son will have the chance and the time to know the difference.Sometimes it can be in the blinking of an eye,a sudden movement,an unconscious act that gives away someone that was understood to be an innocent to actualy be a foe and deadly enemy.Whose to know the guy stepping out of the pickup at a road check point is not a suicide bomber.It must be hell to be able to tell. We dont choose where we are born.There must be some good people there. I hope he gets only the bad guys and sends them where they want to go. If there realy is a God out there, then may that God bless and keep your son and save us from those evil people.I'm out of here.

54 Wow, the only reason I can go to sleep tonight is by reminding myself that although Bush is an idiot, he is not as idiotic as the people who read the crap on this blog and then post stupid comments. Maybe if Rusty actually opened his racist eyes and actually realized that he is accomplishing everything that the terrorists want, he would think twice about his motives. Laura and other retards, try to follow: 1. Stupid Terrorists (whose goal is to generate hate) behead a poor soul and release video. 2. Rusty posts video on blog to expose to thousands, making sure to generate hate. 3. Rusty then posts some crap about how Islam is inherently evil, generating more hate. 4. Retards who read this crap and agree with it, demand that the US nuke every Muslim country as hatred consumes them. 5. Stupid Terrorists then put up "Mission Accomplished" banners. In the end, Rusty is helping the terrorists and personally, I think he is worse than them because you don't see Osama creating a blog and exposing his stupid and hate filled beliefs to the world under the cover of "education".

55 Laura, How stupid are you? Can you just take a second and think about what you are posting before you click on that post button??? Here is a quote: "I see that Iraq's declared a 60 day state of emergency. Is America kicking ASS or what? Yesterday, they said that the civilians were told to flee the area. Why couldn't they have done this shit when they first went there, maybe the beheadings and kidnappings wouldn't have had time to happen?!" Where the hell do you want the civilians to go? Do you want them to go camp in the desert and starve to death? Do you want them to go to another country? Imagine for a second that some terrorist come to your city, and there are no police to protect you or to get them out. Then your country tells you to evacuate the city. Where are you going to go? Are you going to leave your home and everything you have? No...instead you are going to stay there and most likely die when the "liberation forces" start launching attacks. Laura, you can not question what is going on there because you are not there. Oh and Rooster, just shut the hell up. You are not the only person who has family in Iraq. Maybe instead of blasting those who question Bush's war on Iraq, you should take some time and ask yourself "Why is my son there?". If your son is anything like you, then he is probably one of the sick fucks who went there so they could kill things and have a good ole time. Instead, I hope your son is a brave human being who only followed orders by a leader who tricked him. If that is the case, then I hope he will return home saftely. To everyone who is hoping that America is "kicking ASS" in Iraq: Just remember that it is not just the insurgents who are getting their asses kicked. It is also innocent civilians who did nothing wrong. According to www.iraqbodycount.net, the civilian death toll is somewhere around 15,000. For those of you retards like Laura who consider the "war" as a football game, isn't 15000 a good enough score? Whats wrong? Has the US failed to cover the spread? Should they instead kill 20k or maybe 30k? Haven't enough innocent people died to satisfy your rage?

56 The analogy you give beggars belief. To equate creating a blog and expounding ones beliefs on it(that incidentaly are not in tandem with your own)with terrorists that commit these discusting beheadings preposterous.One could be forgiven for wondering who the 'quote': retard is here.Those who live in glass houses should'nt throw stones. Having done voluntary work when I was a teenager taking retarded wheelchair bound people out in the grounds of a hospital near my home I found your 'retard' reference particularly distasteful and wholely offensive.These poor unfortunates, often with no living relatives would not have seen the light of day if it were not for us kids at the time.Some of them lived in what was effectively little more than a cage.Patents that would often not even move their lips would shout and cry with happiness just that they were outside in the clear light of day,away from their suffering.

57 Personaly I would be very interested to hear what solution you have if any. Soundbites are all well and good but there is no substance here. You are far more intelligent than your comments posting suggests.Anyone can put down others or belittle their views and opinions.If this blog turns into just another blog where people swear and curse all the time then the true reason why Rusty created it is lost.People are more likely to come over to your side if you ease them into your way of thinking.Character assasination is not going to make people want to change.If you dont attack them from the off you might even find that you win if not their support for your views then at least their respect.Anything less than this is a missed opportunity.Anyone can behave like an (a)word.One is born every day. It takes guts to express yourself in a civilised manner.

58 Sopotamia, You seem like one of the more reasonable people who follow this blog. Thus, I will explain why I came off the way I did. I felt I had to model my post in the same way as some of the people here in order to make them understand. With that said, I apologize for using a word like "retard" to describe the ignorance here but note, I have seen people here use a lot harsher words. I would love to have a intelligent conversation about what is wrong and if there is any way to fix it but unfortunatly, anything I say will be called "un-american" or I will be labeled as a foreigner like James. But before that happens, I am curious as what the original intentions of Rusty are since obviously you have followed this more than I have. On his "jawas-explained" section, he tries to relate our enemy to fictional characters in a popular movie. By doing that, he is immediately taking a serious matter and trivializing it. How can anyone take his beliefs and concerns seriously when he is using an analogy that is based on stereotypes.

59 I, too, take offense at the "R" word. My youngest son happens to have Down Syndrome. That said, let me tell you something, Fake! If you are so upset by the contents of this blog, what the hell are YOU doing here? If you look up any war in history, innocent civilians are always caught up in the crossfire. That's war. I don't want to see them hurt, but that's how war is. If you come onto this blog like a bull in a china closet, call everyone names and insult them because their views differ from yours, it is your own fault if you are met by hostility. I cannot believe the audacity of people who would rather feel sorry for foreigners than their own people (the soldiers). And by the way, over half of the population LEFT THE CITY before we started this latest ground assault on Fallejah. They've been terrorized for years by Saddam, to say nothing of the current wave of insurgents. Allawi has joined forces with our soldiers and we are both fighting the insurgents to rid the country from terrorists, so who the hell are you to come here and declare that innocents are being killed, as though we are doing it on purpose! I am sooo damned tired of you lib's. If you are that against the situation, please move to Canada.

60 Fake like (not going to use a good man's name addressing you). I guess your solution is do nothing. Wait until they gather strength, terrorize more people into supporting them and attack our innocents again. BULLLSHIT: The good citizens of Fallujah are feeding them, supplying them with intelligence, weapons and whatever they need. They had a year to slowly make other arrangements. They wanted to stay and support the Bastards. Here is another one for you. How about I don't give a shit about a people/society that spawns these ISLAMIC Assholes. The good citizens have had plenty of time to let the Iraqi government know where these bastards are. They haven't. Thousands of ISLAMIC NUTS cannot hide from public view for months on end. I know why my son is there. I also know why a piece of shit like you isn't there. There is no justification for cutting innocent peoples heads off. There was no justification for 9/11. I am not concerned about the welfare of the so called but not really so innocents in Fallujah. You stupid ass. This has been the plan all along. You're just to wrapped up in hating America to see it. For the last months I've been giving hints that this is what we want. Get as many of the bastards as we can in one place and end it. Remember, over there, not over here. Assholes like you can't seem to understand that the Iraqi government is at our side. They made this choice and their soldiers are fighting the terrorists as well. Personally, I think the powers that be made a mistake by giving warning. I believe many of the higher ups have already escaped. But we will get a bunch which means less people will die later. In final. If you ever use my son in one of your posts again I will find you. No matter what it costs me. This I promise, you would much rather have a bunch of beheaders in masks at your door than me and mine.

61 Fake...what a fitting word for a low life scumbag such as yourself! Go right ahead, stick up for a country that would just as soon see you dead before we get them. You fucking crumb! Those people in Iraq did nothing. They've had plenty of time to get together and protest to their government about the terrorism that is running rampant over there. THEY DID NOTHING, hear me? So, of course, the good ole US of A, went there to FREE THEM from the scourge of these insurgents. You think we like seeing innocents getting killed amidst all this? Of course not. But that's war, too bad. So tell me, what plans do you have of taking care of the situation besides wanking off with one hand and typing with the other? I am too old to fight, but have plenty of relatives and friends' sons over there fighting those bastards. Big tough guy, or gal, whatever the hell you are. So easy to talk, so easy to act the asshole. And if I ever see you insult disabled people again, I'll hunt you down as well. My nephew is autistic, you insect. I wish I could step on you.

62 Fake:The greatest difficulty I have at this moment is containing the rage I still feel at your earlier statement,though typed and not spoken, it's as if it was and the sound is still ringing inside my head.These beheadings have truly changed me as a person.The Eugine Armstrong beheading brought me very close to a complete mental breakdown.The Henlsey one with his eyes moving above the head band before execution and his mouth open and jaw moving after he was murdered completely unhinged me,taking me to the darkest side of the human psyche,filling me with a hate so profound I wanted instant revenge, by any means necessary.I naively thought at the time that fact that they were beheaded at all was largely due to the fact the fact that they were 'Kaffars', a derogatory term similar to the term Infidels, yet used primarily in that region. If it had not been for the fact these murderers started beheading Moslem Iraqi people that were supporting the infrastructure I would not be here now,lets just say I would have been getting quite busy,and I dread to think of what I might have done.The more I watched the stronger the desire became to exact revenge. I still cant get the video of Nick Berg our of my head as the executioners shout out god is great.That man was conscious when his head was almost off,when he let out a final roar of agony they shout out again god is great.Drawing a correlation between these terrorists and Rusty's setting up of a blog which you feel for the most part expounds his own views, as you did, must be deemed in any discerning persons mind, absolutely reprehensible. In that opening statement you struck a mortal blow in one fell swoop to any credence you might have gained in anything that you followed it up with.The done can never be undone.You might as well have punched us all on the nose.Sledgehammer diplomacy is what they are trying to get rid of in Iraq. Maybe once people realise democracy is better in the end than a dictatorship and Iraqi's on the ground see that things are getting better and they realise that neither the Coalition nor the Americans hate them they will rise up in greater numbers against the extremists that are trying to deny them entry into Iraqs rightful place at the table of the civilised nations of the free world. I am a champion of the underdog,he/she that suffers,he/she that has no voice,he/she that craves for justice in a land where there is none,he/she that is dispossessed of all rights as a human being regardless of religious affiliation. All of these can be found in Iraq and every state where religious fundamentalism is found to be killing and opressing its people. Iraqi people are being beheaded because they are trying to do something so harmless as laying water pipes so that their fellow Iraqis might have fresh drinking water and the facility to bath.They dream of what even the poorest in the western hemisphere take for granted as a given.When people say that Bush makes selective war.What about Zimbabwe and other places,the things that went on there. These things do not sit comfortably with me I admit.The fact is though that the greatest danger to life on earth now is not Robert Mugabe,the atom bomb or anything else.It is however Islamic fundamentalism.If other countries go the way of France with its 6 million moslems and Germany with its 11 million moslems, frightened to get involved in supporting the coalition in Iraq for fear of civil unrest, it begs the question who will be there to defend those that do not want to be forced into becomming a moslem.When this religion gets so powerful that the prospect of conversion or death is the reality in larger swathes of the world.This might seem quite fantastical right now but there are many that believe to get thus far has been a 600 year plan to have world domination.As I am too old to serve in the Army I would gladly get involved in defending foreign aid workers,preferably while being armed to the teeth, That I would do gratuit,which is what most of charity workers are doing it for anyway.France is the major bullwork stopping Turkey joining the European .President Chirac does not want them.He has already openly said Turkey is not a european country,it is an Asian one,one that contains 70 million moslems .Turkey if allowed to join the Union would instantly become the largest country in the whole European Union, with the poorest population, with several thousand miles of largely open borders and Europe would be come swamped.I have stopped watching beheadings for a long time now but I still hold that these people are evil and must be stopped by any means necessary.

63 May as well write this as my wife and two daughters will be up all night. The Marines are moving their tanks into Fallujah so I guess Scott is in the thick of it. I wonder if FAKE the anti American piece of shit can name one of the so called sick fucks that went there so they could kill things and have a good ole time? If you can't name one you are a liar. Which we all know anyway. If FAKE is an American he/she (sissy anyway) should be tried for treasonous behavior. At very least taken to a Marine Corp base and made to read his/her sick fucks statement.

64 Laura....I read through some of your pevious posts and that is how I learned that you have a son. Prior to that, I thought you were just a kid who had been let loose on a computer. Dont flatter yourself by thinking that I am putting a dossier together on you. You are not that significant in any meaning of the word. Rooster, as I said to you before, I hope your son is safe and that he makes a safe return to you and your family. However your views on other Americans who dont share your heritage is nauseating. Given that there could be people of numerous ethnic origins on this blog, deomcrat, republican, American or foreign, it would be a good idea to tone down your racist language. You rantings are similar to those of the cantankerous old sherrif in Smokey and the Bandit. Becareful you dont bust a blood vessel, you blustering old bufoon.

65 What the fuck is this!I've never read such a croq of shit in all my days.Who writes this stuff.This is a set up right.Your putting me on.Nobody is that dumb!

66 This war wouldnt be a war if oil was not involved. Yeah what the insurgents did was barbaric and the culprits have to be caught and brought to justice.Im with you you on that one.Tell me this though.Why have we gone to war in this day and age without a referendum?Shit,America is the most powerful nation on earth and we cant trust our own people to make their own minds up on if they want to go to war or not?That is undemocratic.Why are we messing with Iraq? I thought they were our allies back in a day when the bogie man was Iran. How many times have we got to arm a country to only have them turn said arms on us a few years down the line .Dont you see it.Without America iraq wouldnt have any arms.Shit,what a mess,and what for.

67 This war wouldnt be a war if oil was not involved. Yeah what the insurgents did was barbaric and the culprits have to be caught and brought to justice.Im with you you on that one.Tell me this though.Why have we gone to war in this day and age without a referendum?Shit,America is the most powerful nation on earth and we cant trust our own people to make their own minds up on if they want to go to war or not?That is undemocratic.Why are we messing with Iraq? I thought they were our allies back in a day when the bogie man was Iran. How many times have we got to arm a country to only have them turn said arms on us a few years down the line .Dont you see it.Without America iraq wouldnt have any arms.Shit,what a mess,and what the hell for.

68 James: A real man would have apologized. No one takes you seriously anymore since you went off ranting about our soldiers and us "retards". I don't care what you think about me or anyone else on this blog but I DO care about what people say about our soldiers and our country. I draw the line there. Go ride a kanga and leave the debate to us Americans. Your country isn't even involved. All talk, no action. You are not even remotely connected to the war in Iraq, or anywhere else for that matter.

69 Laura......I have never referred to you as "a retard". That was "Fake it" Yet again, you have shown your complete lack of ignorance about this conflict. You have been told that I am Australian, you have just told me to "go ride a kanga". Presumably you mean a "roo" Let me be the first to inform you , because you appear to be the only person who doesn't know, that Australia does in fact have a presence in Iraq. No wonder people think that you are several beers short of a six pack, the fact is, you haven't got a fucking clue what you are harping on about. Get an education and get a life. I believe someone has already referred to you as a "dumb fuckung bitch", that I feel is wholly inappropriate, because it is an insult to the dumb fucking bitches that I have met in my time.

70 To James anything remotely close to the truth is racist. Better to avoid the issue and wait until it's too late. As stated before. You are as much an enemy as the terrorists are. Wekno: So you think the weapons use by the terrorists are weapons the USA supplied the Iraqi army with more than twenty years ago. That says it all. I guess the 8 billion dollars the Iraqi government under Saddam owes the French was for french fries.

71 James: You and Cooqar deserve each other. You have no respect for yourselves, let alone anyone else. You both have turned the blog into a war among itself, when originally, it was a place to vent our feelings for the hostages that were so cruelly slaughtered. I have no respect for anyone that supports the foreigners, even if there are "innocent people" involved. Too damned bad. Lots of innocent people died in those towers, on that plane in PA and at the Pentagon. To say nothing of the 6 that died during the '93 bombing of same, the USS Cole and the Embassy in Africa. To say Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 is getting pretty lame too, as mentioned by many on this blog. Thank God the views these anti-war lib's are making on here are but a small percentage of what the rest of America feels about the war, or Bush would not have been re-elected. Case closed.

72 Will somebody tell me what the fuck is going on here. What is this blog?And whats the rap with the guys from the land down under.Postings are way too long.I dont read that much in a month.Give me a break.Whats the good news out there?I just know your gonna make me smile.Later,I gotta run.

73 Wekno: Some people just hate Bush and think he illegally invaded Iraq, for oil, for WMD, for whatever. Fact remains, our leader won again, and only a small percentage share the views of the lib's on this blog, who continue to spew their filth and would rather stick up for a group of people who would surely like to see us dead before we get them. 55,000,000 + voters have voiced their opinions. If Bush was the prick all these bleeding heart libs say he is, why did he win? And the idiots who are whining the most aren't even from the US. They're mad because their countries became involved. They could give two shits otherwise. I guess they'd rather sit back and wait until Zarqawi and others like him, knock on their doors.

74 Whos hating bush.I dont hate bush,I hate the fucking terrorists murdrers that show no mercy to man woman or child.Help me out here on my word cause I just cant't look at the screen that long to read all this stuff.Some is absolute crap.If I get bored in the first line I move on. Im just skim reading bits but its too hard to find the good stuff.I know there is cause I seen some.Dont get me started on the Frogs,the most arrogant nation on the planet,cant we just nuke them.god I hate those turn coat yellow bellies.They love the American way of life n goods and shit.but those bastards hate us yet fucking admire the krauts,the same people that pummeled their country in 45 ,bastards fucking hate us man,I know it Ive been there,Anti American par exellence.

75 greyrooster:Shit you sound like a professor man.Sounds like you know more than I do about the weapons and shit. It was just a thought though.I know you say 20 years but I heard those kalashnikove assault rifles whatever are better than our own.Cant give you dates n stuff but I heard something about that not that long ago.Also in naam when a platoon of marines were issued with these M16's might be the name but dont slaughter me if it was something else.yeah anyway they were jamming after the first volley.Some platoon that were the first to be issued with these new gismos were in viet cong country and they were sitting ducks, apparently the viet cong were just a few yards off.This Army documentary I saw had a vet on there and he said himself that if not for that cache of enemy kalashnikovs they would not have made it. Also word got around pretty fast in naam and the marines were doing that all the time,exchanging US fire power for cong.Just a though anyway.

76 Twenty years ago our enemy used kidnappings as a weapon of fear, then to suicide bombings, then flying fuel-loaded planes into civilian buildings to today's cold-blooded assassination on the streets. Theo Van Gogh's barbaric execution by a radical Islamist this past Nov 2nd on the tolerant streets of Amsterdam, all because he made a film which exposed the treatment of Islamic females, is a bad sign of things to come for those who tolerate radical Islamic Jihad. Go ahead and protest the war while our enemy draws blood beneath the veil of your peace. For myself, I choose war. Our freedoms are worth dying for.

77 My sentiments exactly.

78 Wow, I thought the people who read this blog were fairly educated. Even Rusty himself claims to be a professor of some kind so I thought that maybe the people who take the time out to follow this blog had similar interests in the pursuit of knowledge. Unfortunately, those thoughts disappeared after about 2 minutes of reading. After I realized that this is merely another hate-blog and that its readers would rather gang up and attack anyone who thinks differently, I decided to give them a taste of their own medicine. Now I will expose you for the hypocritical fucks that you are. Oh yes, I am using a whole new vocabulary now. For those who missed out, here is how it started: James makes a post saying that he disagrees with Rusty. Instead of an intelligent discussion, we have this: >>> Get off the blog and complain to Blair, leave us Americans alone. Posted by Laura at November 5, 2004 08:55 AM JAMES: FUCK OFF Posted by greyrooster at November 5, 2004 12:44 PM LAURA: James is a foreigner. Want his address? Posted by greyrooster at November 5, 2004 12:51 PM Roost: He says he's not from the UK, but that doesn't mean he still ain't a foreigner. Even if he IS from the US, he IS a foreigner if he's against our President. Tough shit. Posted by Laura at November 5, 2004 03:20 PM Poor, sad little man! Wants attention badly, no matter what the cost. Why don't you go over to the Bigley Blog and you and Cooqar can have a nice little tea party, you fucking faggot! Posted by Laura at November 8, 2004 07:46 AM >>> Just by spending 2 days on this blog, I can already see a sad little trend. When Red Devil took offense to all the UK blasts, he spoke out. Roost realized that he had let his racist/nationalist hatred leak out my mistake because he was only trying to attack James so he apologized (only because UK happens to be an ally...who knows what hell he would have unleashed if they werenÂ’t) and says "I LOVE TONY" and then Laura the drone basically echoes everything he said. You people are filled with so much hypocrisy that it makes me sick. You also canÂ’t take what you dish out. I use a word like retard and suddenly everyone knows or has a kid that is retarded and starts speaking up. What about all the words that Roost and Laura have used? Where are all the people who have gays in their family? Didn't LauraÂ’s beautiful "you fucking faggot!" blast upset anyone? The sad thing is that if you do have homosexual family members or friends (which you do, trust me...everyone has at least one), they are probably too scared to make that known to their loved ones because of your hating ways. Rooster, although you try to sound educated and reasonable at times, your anger and hatred matches your ignorance. When I raised the point that the biggest victims in this war are the innocent civilians of Iraq, you responded with this: "They had a year to slowly make other arrangements. They wanted to stay and support the Bastards. Here is another one for you. How about I don't give a shit about a people/society that spawns these ISLAMIC Assholes. The good citizens have had plenty of time to let the Iraqi government know where these bastards are. They haven't. Thousands of ISLAMIC NUTS cannot hide from public view for months on end. Â… I am not concerned about the welfare of the so called but not really so innocents in Fallujah." Wow, if this was a trial that would be the smoking gun you racist fuck. TIME TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS??? Arrangements for what? Leaving their homes and everything they know and love? Do you know how many people lived in fucking Fallujah? Where the fuck would you go? The sad thing is that the majority of the population did leave because they know what happens after the US's "precision" air strikes. The ones that didn't leave live out their days in terror. Yes, some help out the insurgents but most likely because they are starving and they are offered food if they throw a grenade at the troops. Others may help for other reasons. Obviously when they do that they become part of the problem and I have no justification for what they do. Those who I AM concerned about are those who only paid the price of being citizens of a fucked up country that was invaded for all of the wrong reasons. Yes Suddam was a monster and people died in his country for unjust reasons but I am sure that if we hadn't attacked Iraq, Suddam would have been hard pressed to kill off 16,000 of his innocent civilians the way this war has. But Rooster doesn't take into those considerations. He says "How about I don't give a shit about a people/society that spawns these ISLAMIC Assholes." Yes, blame an entire religion for the actions of extremists. And then I saw this: "They've had plenty of time to get together and protest to their government about the terrorism that is running rampant over there. posted by Vinnyboy" Vinny, very nice point you ignorant fuck. Lets complain to the government. Which government are you talking about? The US installed government that can't help them? Don't you understand the situation there? It is called ANARCHY. There are no police. There is no help. All they can do is follow what the people with guns tell them to do. Sopotamia, don't you understand that you are falling in the grasps of the terrorists. ANYONE who sees those gruesome videos would be filled with rage. I avoided watching them because I knew I would and I didn't want hate to cloud my judgment the way it has most of the people here. Yes the beheading bastards need to die but the innocent civilians that are caught in the crossfire don't. Don't you realize that by watching those videos you are building hatred and distrust for any Muslim you see. If the entire US public fell into this trap, they would act out hate crimes against Muslims here and then other Muslim countries would take action and BAM, mission accomplished for the terrorists. Why is it so hard for you to understand that the terrorists are extremists. What they are doing is against every foundation of Islam. They even behead Iraqis for crying out loud. DoesnÂ’t that make you realize that they are monsters using Islam as a disguise??? They should be treated the way monsters here are treated: arrested and punished. The only difference is that in that "country", there is no way to catch them and punish them. There are all kinds of different serial killers and sick bastards in the United States. Why is it that when a Christian serial killer performs horrible acts against humanity, no one associates it with their religion? When some psycho murders someone because "god told him to do it", no one denounces their religion. Now, I can try to provide some solutions but honestly I don't know why I would waste my time. I could say that all the US had to do was change their global policy. Instead of backing Israel 100%, that they provide help to both Palestine and Israel and take measures to find a COMPROMISE and solve their disputes. I could say that instead of launching a war on Iraq, they could try to unseat Suddam in different ways. Hey, they did wonders in Iran with 5 or 6 people, why not create a coup in Iraq? Why not assassinate Suddam or Osama? Why do innocents have to pay the price because they are in the same country as these sick bastards. But that would be too simple. There are other factors involved unfortunately. Oil is one of them but I don't want to get into that. Now I know what is coming. Laura will either say "Face it, we won and you lost" or "If you don't like what Bush is doing go to Canada". Laura, what did you win? You know Bush and Kerry are pretty much the same right? If Kerry was elected, the operations in Iraq wouldn't stop. The "majority" of the nation (wow, 51-49 is a big majority) didnÂ’t elect Bush because of his warring ways, they elected him because they are more concerned about faith based issues like abortion than they are about the economy or global policies. Maybe you idiots need to realize that first. Ernie and No have tried to make you fuckers see things differently without attacking you personally and all they got was shit from you guys. Well I am different. I give the shit back...which leads me back to Rooster. Listen you fucking idiot. Read what I said. The only reason I even mentioned your son was because you keep bringing him in this discussion. As I said before... "I hope your son is a brave human being who only followed orders by a leader who tricked him. If that is the case, then I hope he will return home safely." I would never wish harm in any way. First of all, you need to realize that their ARE misguided members of the military. Either they are raised that way or corrupted by the military system but how else do you account for the atrocities documented in history. What about Abu-Ghariab?? What kind of fairy tale do you live in Rooster? You don't think there are raping and murders in Iraq by US troops? Iraq and Vietnam are becoming more and more similar and we all know what kind of sick shit we did over there. That is the nature of the beast. War is to blame. Now, although even acknowledging an Internet threat is giving too much credit to something that is so childish, I would like to address it because it just exposes you for the stupid bully that you are. You see, what I would like to do is say "I am an American citizen and I can criticize my government because that is my right as a citizen and if you threaten me because I am exercising my right then you will be thrown in prison." Unfortunately, I have been hanging around you sluts too long so I will say this instead: Rooster, you come by my door with a mask on and you will meet the business end of my H&K. With that said, once again I hope that your son returns safely and god bless all of the innocents who are dead or dying in Iraq.

79 Fake, why don't you post your real name? Cowering behind a fake moniker? Why don't you wrap a towel around your head and go protect the innocent people of Iraq? Do you realize that actually, 20,000 troops have been sitting in Iraq since '91 to oversee Saddam? And although a ceasefire was declared Iraq continued to shoot at us from their planes. Now, look who's talking about an "illegal invasion"? People forget sooo sooo easily. We don't care about what people say unless they are against our country and our govt. Pure and simple. If you weren't one of the 55,000,000 + who voted for Bush, then you can take your pro-Iraqi comments and move. Why should I care about the lives of Iraqi's when the livs of our boys over there are at stake as well? I think we should stick to the original plan: level the fucking city! Most of your so called innocents are long gone and left already. The media plays up all this biased shit because they hate Bush and his decision to go into Iraq. Why? Who the hell knows? Probably Kerry, Michael Moore and the other bleeding heart libs'are behind it. Talk about being a fake, Fake.

80 Fake: You make some interesting points.I do wish you would stick to them though and stop going into abuse mode at the drop of a hat all the time its getting boring by now.

81 Fake......good post but chances are that it will fall on deaf ears. Laura, as you rightly point out is the first to complain when she faces a personal attack. However she fails to recognise that more often than not, that the attack is a retaliatory response. However dont be too hard on her, as she only learned to read and write in the last couple of years. She's more of a remedial student as opposed to retarded, but I could be wrong. As for the rooster, well he's an old wind bag who would probably feel happier living in the South Africa of yester year during the time of aparthied. I wouldn't pay too much attention to him. Be good

82 Fake: The beheadings are not against every foundation of Islam. Dont kid yourself here.I have read the Koran and I know for a fact that their prophet sanctioned the beheading of 900 Jews of the ancient Quresi tribe,around the time of 700 A.D. In Medina Market Place,a trench was dug at the side of the road,after which all were beheaded, their heads placed on sticks,exept the women who were enslaved,the prophets followers taking some of them as brides.This was a long time ago its true.You must remember many believers follow the Koran to the letter today. This is not a progressive religion we are talking about here. Many followers take such Koranic verses as legitemising attacks on Jews today. Myself I had Christianity drummed into me from a very early age.I am an atheist.I believe in protecting other peoples right to practice their religious belief,just so long as it does not interfere with my rights to live unmolested and in peace.I have spent many years studying the evoluton of man as a species.There is no mention of dinosaurs in any holy book including the bible, which incidentaly was written by man. I am happy to take your opinions on board,but when as in this case they are based on missinformation,I feel that you need to be informed of the facts. I'd be interested to know your comments.

83 James: If you weren't such a pitiful character, I'd laugh. You continue the insults, just as your pal, CooqarUK did, and his ass is banned now, although he's still trying using other monikers. You and he are from the same mold. Ridiculing women when the going gets tough. If we're so stupid and ignorant, why do you continue the debate with us? Me thinks it's a macho thing, when a woman proves you're wrong. Go ride your "roo", hey, maybe you can meet up with Fake and ride together, since he's from your country.

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87 I have read this blog and am saddened to see it descend to name calling.I am Canadian and my son is voluntarily serving alongside American troops in Afghanistan.I should mention ,there are 'Roos,Kiwis and Germans there as well. No French I'm afraid. Yes,there are Canadians who feel strongly for our American neighbours, in spite of our prolonged exposure to Liberal politicians.We are hampered by our politics that continue to appease a growing minority population and other selfvested interest groups that flourish in a politically induced, socially correct, mindset. Rather than administering to the needs of this fine country our Government wastes our time telling us how good a job they do in assisting the poor, the inept, the downtrodden and the recently arrived from oppressed countries, whose numbers they are forever prepared to increase when in wake of an upcoming election.We are,as a nation,politely choking on our political correctness because it is the quintessential inoffensive Canadian thing to do. I mentioned this as a means of explaining why we sometimes appear at odds with American foreign policy.We consider Americans as an elder brother and as such we harbour the usual misgivings whenever "Johnny" embarks on a course of action that forces us to tag along.In the past our main squables occurred along trade issues where we just wanted to hold our own and not get screwed in the process. Yankee traders have a well deserved reputation. Our world position, unlike that of the U.S.A is never under threat thereby giving us the freedom to mouth opinions and platitudes that we don't have to live up to.We've given our blustering political idiots disproportinate amounts of time to fulfill their mandate. They subsequently embarrassed the hell out of us on the world stage.Our past liberal Premier,the honourable J.C.Chretien comes to mind.His cabinet was the most corrupt ,divisive and ineffectual in memory.We are only now beginning to discover this. The gist of all of this dribble is to asure you that Canadians will stand by you and offer their assistance.As a people we pride ourselves in reaching out and giving freely.It is a common trait we share. I enjoy this blog space, even the ire it raises. Freedom of speech is a precious commodity.