File under good news. When more of this starts happening, we'll know we have won. Via
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YES!!!
If this story is true, I say, it's about time!
My hat is off to these folks.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 04, 2005 10:52 AM (x+5JB)
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I hate to see anyone wounded. I wish that the eight had been given the privilege of martyrdom like the other five.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 04, 2005 11:04 AM (x+5JB)
Posted by: rumcrook at February 04, 2005 01:42 PM (KqxgH)
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Ditto: About time. One or two more of these incidents and maybe the ball will start to steamroll. I can't wait for the day it is fashionable to kill terrorists. Drag them from their cars, burn their bodies and hang them from overpasses.
But do not make them wear panties on their heads or pile up naked. That would be too much. Such INHUMAN treatment would result in jail time for the freedom fighters. aaaaaaahhhh!
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 03:32 PM (JHIKU)
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LMFAO!!!! oh no, the villagers better not make them do THAT! Better to just kill 'em.
Posted by: Laura at February 04, 2005 03:49 PM (ptOpl)
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Don't use the word "fashionable" when discussing killing. Those that threaten the lives of others need to be stopped. Those that NO LONGER pose a threat or are in PRISON should not be killed. If you don't understand that then there is no hope for you.
The villagers did what they had to do. More would do the same if it wasn't for the fact that the terrorists do a great job of TERRORIZING them into sumbission. That is their goal. That is why they make the videos. Get it now? Its good to know that some have fought back.
Rooster, if someone forced you to get naked under gunpoint and pile up with other naked victims while they videotaped you and laughed, they would go to jail. Unless you are telling me you would not press charges. You make it sound like you would have a jolly old time and then pat the guilty party on the back for their fine work. Get real.
Posted by: Jim at February 04, 2005 04:40 PM (aL36c)
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JIM: As before. You are one sick terrorist hugging shit. Who the hell are you to tell me what to say. Sissies like you cause more Americans to get killed. A piece of dog shit like you would call the cops in that situation. The greyrooster wouldn't. For one thing the greyrooster would tell them to fuck off and not do it. Then greyrooster would figure a way to get even. You would not. You would do as they did. For you are as cowardly as they. I'm a man you are a rat. Difference in how we think. Terrible torture huh!. Worst things happened to me in a frat hazing. Of course, you never went though one. No self respecting frat would have a chicken shit like you. Maybe a sorority for ugly women might take you.
I understand that those caught and put into prison might very well have killed an American soldier the day before. That's what they do. That's their purpose in life. They enjoy killing. We get captured, we die a horrible slow death. They get captured they get cuttled by assholes like you. Grow the fuck up. Take no prisoners. The prisoner might have killed your buddy last week. Or might be released to kill again as already happened numerous times.
You are totally devoid of common sense. You do not understand what makes men tick. For you truly are not one.
You need a testosterone shot. In fact you need lots of testosterone shots. Maybe, just maybe they will make you feel like man. Then you can begin to think like one. Now go back to your muslim boyfriend and shut the fuck up. PUNK!
By the way, have you come out of the closet yet?
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 05:53 PM (JHIKU)
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Greyrooster, as far as I'm concerned it's fashionable to kill the little bastards right now and when they kill em, they need to smile as they watch em die.
Jim, I appreciate your argument, it's just that I don't buy into it. But that's what makes everybody different, isn't it?
Posted by: elliott at February 04, 2005 06:16 PM (yYGP5)
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Rooster, answer the question then...would you press charges if someone did that to you?
Posted by: Jim at February 04, 2005 06:46 PM (aL36c)
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I already told you the answer. I wouldn't do it. I would say fuck you. I have enought sense and they surely should that the American troops wouldn't do shit if you said fuck you.
Read the paragraph again it says a piece of dog shit like you would call the cops in that situation. THE GREYROOSTER WOULDN'T. What the fuck you mean I didn't answer. Quit playing with your rag head domestic pardners dick and pay attention.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 08:02 PM (JHIKU)
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It is impossible for people like JIM to understand the mind of a brave person. The thought process is different. Someone hits me I try and knock his head off. Jim calls the cops. He cannot understand value like courage, bravery, loyalty. He is a different species. Nature has made wolves and sheep. I am like the wolf. Sometimes I die fighting. That's the way it is. Jim is the sheep, he dies running.
Wolves fight wolves. Sheep do anything to avoid a fight. They run, they hide, they wag their tails in submission, they call the shepherd. Terrorists are wolves. They figure if god didn't want sheep sheared he wouldn't have made them sheep.
The Jims of the world will never understand manhood. It's beyond his comprehension. It's his nature to run and hide and kiss ass. Submission and groveling is how he protects himself. He disquises his fear by saying he cares about the wolf. He figures he won't get bitten that way.
Some of us are different. We don't care if we get bitten. The pack comes first. We are loyal to our pack. We wouldn't change even if we knew we were going to lose. I don't care if he understands me. AND I SURE AS HELL DON'T WISH TO ACT LIKE HIM. Take you free ride Jim. You're the one who needs to look in the mirror. Then go baa, baa. Those who you would snitch on are protecting the sheep.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 08:32 PM (JHIKU)
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So you are telling me that if someone at gunpoint told you to do those things that you tell them to "fuck off" and not to do. So you are assuming that the abusers in question would let you off that easily? That when you tell them to fuck off they simply reply "yes greyrooster sir!", put down their guns and run away? And then they allow you to get even??? If you are going to pretend like you are answering the damn quesiton at least try not to sound like such an idiot.
So again, if someone has you at gun point and forces you to do those things, would you press charges? If you refuse and they beat you...how much would you endure before you comply? If they fire their gun at your feet, how many shots before you dance? I am not talking about American troops. I am talking about any ASSAILANT. Doesn't matter if they are black, white, woman or man. Any person who wants to cause you physical harm. I am guessing that you would EVENTUALLY comply. You can pretend to be so proud that you would die before being forced to do those things but no one would believe you. Even you would find it hard to believe yourself. Stop acting so hard.
You would do those things and if given the opportunity to bring the bastards that did it to justice, you would take it. Now shut your mouth because you know you would. If you can understand that then you can understand what inhuman actions are. Then you can understand why those soldiers are on trial.
ANOTHER CASE CLOSED. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
Posted by: Jim at February 04, 2005 08:35 PM (aL36c)
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Oh, Apparently some of the Iraqi citizenry is now acting like the wolf and fighting. This means the end of the terrorists wolves. That is as long as the sheep don't get in the way.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 08:38 PM (JHIKU)
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Again, The troops you say are so inhuman were in reality American troops. Yes, I would take the beating before submitting. We both know the beatings at Abu Garib were bullshit. I would not dance and no one at Abu Garib had their feet shot at. You are an exaggerating bullshit artist. Pure lies. Nothing more. If you are not talking about American troops who the hell are you talking about? American troops were in charge at Abu Garib when the so called inhuman acts happened. They didn't happen. You are a liar.
As I said before. It is impossible for a cowardly little snitch like you to judge people that are not cowards. The greyrooster doesn't dance. If I was to get shot in the foot, it would hurt. That's all. But dancing would hurt me more. YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT. Because you do not have the courage and internal pride to understand. That is why you are a sheep. I would rather feel pain than be a sheep. I've already felt all the pain most people could only think about. Wasn't that big of a deal. But Shame. Now that's a big deal.
If I were as cowardly as you. I think I would find the nearest bridge. What's the point of you living. You're to cowardly to experience manhood or any of the glory that goes with it.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 08:55 PM (JHIKU)
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Now its my turn to call BULLSHIT. You would do whatever it takes to survive. That is human instinct. But lets pretend for a moment that you really are the most courageous person alive like you claim. Would it be safe to say that MOST people are not as BRAVE and HEROIC like you? Would it be safe to say that MOST people would break down after hours of beating or under threats to their life and thus, be forced to do those things? YES.
Stop pretending like these things didn't happen. The proof is in the pictures. You think the prisoners happily piled up on each other, had intercourse with each other, allowed themselves to be raped without PROTESTING? You think they willfully participated in those humilliating acts? No. SOMETHING "persuaded" them to do it. I am thinking it was either an M16 or some other tool.
You know what the most beautiful thing is though? I want you to pay close attention because you might not be able to understand it at first but you just PROVED MY POINT in your sob story at the end of your post. ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? I speak to you like a little child because you act like one. HERE WE GO:
You see, this whole arguement started because you didn't think the prisoners in Abu Ghraib were tortured. You think what they went through is nothing compared to pain or death. YET, in your last post you said that SHAME IS WORSE THAN DEATH. Your exact words:
"I would rather feel pain than be a sheep. I've already felt all the pain most people could only think about. Wasn't that big of a deal. But Shame. Now that's a big deal."
I think for the Muslims in that prison, having to pile up naked, having intercourse with each other or even simply wear underwear on their heads is about as SHAMEFUL as it gets for them. In your eyes that is worse than death correct? So according to you, what the prisoners went through in that sick ordeal IS WORSE THAN DEATH. I would end it here but there is more...
You said you went through similar things during fraternity hazing. So you allowed yourself to be SHAMED because you wanted to join a fucking frat? How sad are you now? What happened to the proud wolf? HAHAHAHAHAHA I hope you are proud of yourself. You contradict yourself so much that given time, you discount everything you say within 2 or 3 posts. You make it too easy man.
Posted by: Jim at February 04, 2005 11:41 PM (aL36c)
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Once again you are a liar. There was no intercourse. Just a wish on your part. They were merely stacked on top of one another. Shit everyone knows that. There was no pain involved. There was no hours of beatings. Proof is in the pictures? More of your bullshit. Where is the blood. Where are the bruises. Where is the swelling. Nerf balls don't leave bruises. Look at the pictures again imbecile. Getting slapped around a bit is not torture. LIAR, LIAR, COWARDLY LIAR. Why continue to lie and distort the facts. Be a man and tell the truth. But you ain't so you can't.
Secondly, what we did during Frat hazings were not shameful. We knew what they were. We laughed at ourselves and our brothers for thinking up such shit. Pure genius. Again, you cannot understand this feeling. You are a social outcast mad at the real people. The ones that fit in. Your actions show you have the same problem as the terrorist. Jealousy, You are jealous of those who are popular, those accepted by society, the people at the end of the bar doing the laughing and having fun. You are not one of them. It shows. Therefore, you take the side of the enemy and support them against those who haven't accepted you. It's your fault. If you weren't such a creep you might be accepted.
SHAME: Since you are a coward you cannot understand. SHAME: would be submitting to anyone telling you to do that. SHAME: would be getting naked and jumping on the stack instead of saying Fuck off and taking the beating. That would be SHAME. Again you cannot understand. Try testosterone. You need some.
This argument did not start with the Abu Garib prison thing. This argument started when the brave people of America chose to re-elect a brave leader. It started when cry baby little shits like you could not take your defeat like a man. Instead you choose to piss and moan, and belittle our government and our troops. The traitor you were backing was sent packing. You cannot accept that so you continue on. THE ACTIONS OF A COWARD. You are shit.
Your only option is the bridge. Be a man for the first time in your miserable insignificant life.
Why not? You haven't lived like a man. So whats the loss. On the way down maybe you will gain some self respect. A few moments is better than never experiencing it. Pitiful little nerd is what you truly are.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 05, 2005 08:53 AM (mRvYE)
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Oh so now the Jim's of the world are saying that they prisoners were beaten and raped beyond recognition? I didn't see anything in those photos. Easier to make it worse than it is, than to admit they weren't treated that badly?
Why the fuck are the Jim's of the world so quick to DEFEND THE FUCKING ENEMY????????? Why not show a little rage against the bastards that slowly sawed off heads of innocent victims not even remotely involved in the war? What about poor Margaret Hassan who was helping THEIR PEOPLE and they killed her anyway???
Fuck these animals, they didn't deserve to live, let alone take up space in prison.
TAKE NO PRISONERS....IF THEY WOULD'VE STUCK TO THAT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ABU GHRAIB TO ARGUE OVER.
CASE CLOSED.
Posted by: Laura at February 05, 2005 09:07 AM (ptOpl)
Posted by: cdr_dtw_usnr at February 05, 2005 01:33 PM (A6vTj)
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