January 26, 2006
Iraq WMDs Unanswered Questions
I ran into this post at Rightwingnuthouse and I can tell you itÂ’s not nutty at all. Damn good post, damn good questions.
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Rightwingnuthouse : For almost three years, the conventional wisdom regarding Iraq WMDÂ’s prior to our invasion was that Saddam never had them, we knew it, Bush lied, and we invaded anyway because we wanted their oil, or to establish military bases, or because George Bush is a meany, or because the Jews told us to, orÂ…just because America is eeeevilÂ… Â…But something always bothered me about this conclusion, a nagging itch at the back of my mind. And that is the overwhelmingly belief by the worldÂ’s best intelligence agencies that Saddam did indeed have stockpiles of WMD in the six months leading up to the war. The French, the British, the Germans, The IsraeliÂ’s, the United Nations (UNSCOM and IAEA), not to mention the CIA, DIA, and most politicians here in this country... Â…ThatÂ’s quite a number of people to be dead wrong about such a huge issue.
Updated: Err uh posting a link might help, Sorry.
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Let's also not forget, immediately after Baghdad fell, the Russian "diplomat" envoy that came under fire AFTER they said they had evacuated all their people. What were they still doing there? Helping to get rid of evidence right up to the last second? I think they were shocked to find the military had reached Baghdad so quickly.
What leaves me befuddled is why Saddam had his Russian MiG-25s buried in the sand rather than deploy them in defense. Anyone have an answer for that? If he had the time to bury such large pieces of equipment, he had the time to do a whole lot more.
Posted by: Oyster at January 26, 2006 02:27 PM (osKlJ)
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Oyster, that's pretty much exactly what they were doing.
Give it up George, they did have them, and now Syria has them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 03:11 PM (0yYS2)
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WMD can be as simple as a mustard gas shell. As far as I know we have found one Sarin Shell in an IED. However it was used incorrectly and the chemicals did not mix properly before detonation. So it's quite possible that some chemical shells did exist and if so Sadam would have been anxious to be rid of them. Syria already has Chem weapons. Still it just does not quite all add up. Hiding stuff they were. What they hid and why is still up in the air and may never be solved. It seems reasonable at least some chemical agents may have been involved. The assertion we are absolutly sure they had no chem biological agents is equally unprovable.
See I didn't curse one time and I don't care about left right stuff. In fact I was speaking with a Black man who is a hard woking Democrat today who says he thinks the President should be spying on our enemies warrant or no and thinks he does have the power. Not all lefties are dhimmis.
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2006 04:05 PM (D3+20)
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George, why are you so sure? What intelligence do you have that proves WMD's were not sent to Syria? We know that Saddam had chemical weapons, hell, he used them, so what happened to his chemical weapons? He also had an active nuclear program in the 1990's, so what happened to it?
I'm not saying I know, but I doubt whether Saddam gave up his WMD programs. That would be atypical of his previous behavior. I'm just saying that I don't discount questions about Iraq's WMD, and there are some angles that need to be pursued.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 26, 2006 04:11 PM (rUyw4)
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What sort of WMD are we so sure that Syria now has in its possesion ? WMD are usually divided into 3 groups: chemical,biological and nuclear. Nuclear weapons require a huge infrastructure to produce. Biological are the easiest to produce. We certainly can remembr Dr. Germ and Mrs Anthrax (who appeared as the 5 of hearts on the deck of "most wanted". Both of those women were released last December after 2 years the coalition apparently had no doubts that there were no functioning weapons programs. This was the first story when I googled it. ooops linj woas not accepted due to "questionable content" So you will have to google it yourself. As for chemical weapons Saddam dd use them mostly to breakup the human wave attacks of Iran in 83 and 84. I do not recall there being much of an uproar about this by the white house or by either party in congress at that time.
Posted by: john ryan at January 26, 2006 04:35 PM (TcoRJ)
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Syria was the USSR's main player during the cold war. I remember many time there were confrontations about Syria's capabilities. It was The USSR's main asset in the region. I believe Syria's Chemical capabilties at that time were even the subject of a 20/20 investigation. Missiles were also an issue as part of the balance of power at the time. Syria was as important a player for the USSR as East Germany, Cuba and other clients and were given similar capabilities under Soviet supervision. The soviet missles are gone but in my opinion it's higly likey that Syria retains at least some basic chemical capability since most of that is WWI WWII type tech. Not saying Syria would ever use it as we would respond in kind but basic checmical capability is not that technical. Oh never mind here.
http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Syria/Chemical/3048_3072.html
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2006 08:42 PM (D3+20)
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Your google search string is
"Syrian Military capability chemical"
or 545,000 results
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2006 08:45 PM (D3+20)
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Uh take yer time with that.
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2006 08:47 PM (D3+20)
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George, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I gave you a break, but you are obviously just another fucking moonbat moron of the kind who sneaks on here every now and then and despite their best efforts, exposes themselves for what they are. If you really believe that Saddam had destroyed all his WMD's then you're as stupid as I originally thought. Grow a brain and grow up you idiot kid.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 10:43 PM (0yYS2)
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You deserve the same fate as Nick Berg
wow, where's your head at George Ramos
Posted by: Yer Daddy at January 27, 2006 06:57 AM (TMQIX)
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No one deserves the same fate as Nick Berg. Now IM always says stuff wild and Rusty warned him and he has been better.
George that's enough of that. Make a point or GTFO.
Posted by: Howie at January 27, 2006 08:06 AM (D3+20)
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Hehe, I knew I'd bring the little moron out into the light. He pretended as long as he could, but he just couldn't help himself.
Georgie, you've been busted you little leftard. Now go deliver some pizzas so you can pay your mom rent on the basement you've been taking up since you dropped out of high school.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 01:31 PM (0yYS2)
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Whoa.
Posted by: Oyster at January 27, 2006 04:40 PM (YudAC)
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Whoa Whoa!
George & Maxie! Chill out! If you two want to go at it - maybe be we can set up a cage match on PPV - make some money off this - Rusty can set up a live cam-cast or something.
I don't feel at lotta love here! Your both gonna make me cry!
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:50 PM (3aakz)
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Oh no, I'm being threatened by a little punk that doesn't even shave yet! Whatever shall I do? I know, I could hunt him down, gut him like a fish, and violate his corpse, but if I started doing that to every whiney little nerd that threatened me on the internet, I wouldn't have time for anything else.
Chill out kid, you'll live longer. Or maybe you won't. Either way, threatening me won't get you anywhere but on the back of a milk carton, and you'll never get to hear what your voice sounds like when it changes.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 10:54 PM (0yYS2)
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Improbulus Maximus, I'll keep checkin my kids milk cartons and counting the lucky charms stars..another unique WOT perspective in the house.
Boy with his own room!
/lucky little guppy ;-)
Posted by: Rubin at January 27, 2006 11:57 PM (7oD73)
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By George. Now see what you have done now your platform that you were exercising your free speech no longer supports you. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
If you hate IM well that just shows you are a sucker. Yes a big old 18 year old sucker. He talks you get all upset. Suckered in I'd say you were.
Second you already show you have no idea what Syria is and it's history. I can forgive a bit becuase you are a pup. Syria is not a backwater typical middle east shithole. It;s long been a cultural and political power in the middle east. So go educate yourself and then come back. Next time you tell me to GFY I will despam you myself for now I have deferred your banning and submitted a request to Rusty's judgement. I you can do no more that curse and call for beheading it's not worth the space on my theads.
One thing for sure you have shown you have no idea WTF you are talking about anyway.
Posted by: Howie at January 29, 2006 12:03 PM (D3+20)
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I hate babysitting.
Posted by: Howie at January 29, 2006 12:04 PM (D3+20)
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