The US had released a full transcript of a letter to Al-Qaida in Iraq. The letter
spells out Al-Qaida's plans. They are counting on the US backing out of Iraq and then using Iraq as a base to spread westward to Syria and Lebanon and then to attack Israel.
Al-Zawahiri also worries that Zaqueery is screwing things up. My opinion is that Zaqueery has indeed hijacked the resistance and Bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri are no longer in control. The Al-Qaeda leadership realize they have a madman in Iraq and are desparate to control him. The recent beheading of hostages I feel is a thumb in the eye to the old leadership of Al-Qaeda and Zaqueery asserting his control.
1
Kinda sounds like the DLC vs Kos kids fight...
Posted by: MKL at October 12, 2005 01:07 AM (yJDqu)
2
You know sometimes you wish you had thought of something someone else posted. Well, this is one of those times, dammit, MKL, I should have thought of that, and I would have, too, if you weren't so dang quick witted.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 12, 2005 10:15 AM (rUyw4)
3
I had to dig to find it, but here is the DailyKosÂ’s view of the letter: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/12/01659/989
Summary: Bush/Rove, Inc. (et al) made it up to go along with his speech last week. They really tear it apart piece by piece. I donÂ’t know which is scarier, the letter itself or their take on it.
Now if youÂ’ll excuse me, I need to go take a shower to wash off all the filth from digging up that link.
Posted by: JohnMc at October 12, 2005 12:40 PM (y+I+a)
4
John Yeah I had a post worked up last week with a Kos links still may talk about it. But the jist was how several Dems were trying to talk some sense into the democratic party. Including Carville. Now Carville is a nut but if yer a Jawa ya gott a love the ornery bastard and he was right on target as usuall. Kos had reaction and I looked it over. It was basically lalalalalalalaal not gonna listen and then he suggested what the Dems needed was to dig up some old tricks from Lincoln's 1860 campaign. Yes thats right steal from a Republican candidate from 145 years ago and that would fix the Dems problems. Carville should go over there and slap him silly. Oh forgot he is already silly. Carville needs to got over there and slap some sense into him. Really these guys were trying to help and bring some common sense back the Dems but the moonbats wanted no part of it. They had better open up to what their own is telling them.
Posted by: Howie at October 12, 2005 02:31 PM (D3+20)
5
The more I learn about the thinking of these people the more I realize there is a Pol Pot moment somewhere around the corner if they get their way a bit.
Posted by: hondo at October 12, 2005 04:23 PM (/jH/1)
6
Ive just read the English translation, and it just doesn't
sit right. And no, I'm not a Kosian, quite far from it. If
we accept this letter was from July, it seems to have had
no effect as the mosque attacks on Shia have continued.
al-Zawahiri pretty clearly says stop that.
Many of the statements give me pause, but for each you can
easily make a case they are not fabricated. However, this
line near the end did make me scratch my head:
9-My greetings to all the loved ones and please give me news of Karem and the rest of the folks I know, and especially:
By God, if by chance you're going to Fallujah, send greetings to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Wasn't the letter purported to be meant for al-Zarqawi? He already gave extensive greeting and blessing at the start,
why this line near the end?
Kos I assume (its too late to read their rantings) are
implying a conspiracy of somekind with Bush. But I'm
wondering, if this is indeed fabricated, is it really
intended as disinformation for jihadists not in immediate
contact with Zarqawi or Zawahiri? In effect getting
word out that the big guys want you to ease up on the
attacks on Shia and beheadings and the like, while containing just enough material for the 'true believers' to accept it?
Posted by: mike at October 12, 2005 09:54 PM (FTk5R)
7
That rings true, if you believe al-Zarqawi is some subservient puppet of the Al-Qaeda high ups, that might have rang true two years ago, but now he has his own followings, and has almost made them irrelevant.
I think you'll find he'll be pushing his own agenda, and not Al Qaeda's, which includes the head cutting, Mosque bombing agenda which he has used to relative success.
The Hundred Thousand dollars almost sounds like a loyalty test, will he pay his dues?
Posted by: dave at October 13, 2005 12:45 AM (CcXvt)
8
Nice conspiracy theories Mike and Dave. Hey, did you hear that the JOOOOOOOOS were behind 9/11?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 13, 2005 07:25 AM (0yYS2)
9
mine wasn't a conspiracy theory IMP, I believe the letter is legit, but I believe the motives are different.
I think it's likely that Al-Zarqawi will not follow directions from the inner circle of Al Qaeda, it was politically convenient to align his group with Al Qaeda when he was an unknown, one legged Johnny Jihad that needed funding and recognition to continue his campaign. I think Al-Zarqawi thinks he can surpass Bin Laden / Al Zawahiri, he may even challenge them for leadership of Al Qaeda.
Bin Laden was lionized by his "record" in the Afghanistan - Russia campaign, so far Al-Zarqawi has become as wanted as Bin Laden, he has also shown to be far more successful in the "Jihad" than Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda leadership.
Al Zawahiri has remained hidden, while Zaqawi has waged a one-man campaign against the United States, Bin Laden hasn't been heard from since November(?) 2004, who better to challenge for the leadership of Al Qaeda? now I think Zawahiri is wondering if he still has "control" over those who claim to be acting under him? If this letter was sent two months ago, and he hasn't followed it, has he sent the money? you see where I'm going?
Mike: the fact is these letters are passed between different fractions, using low tech couriers it's likely it passed through numerous elements before reaching it's target.
Posted by: dave at October 13, 2005 09:54 AM (CcXvt)
10
Of course he doesn't want to take orders. Terrorists are nothing more than criminal gangsters who will murder anyone who gets in their way. In a confederacy of rats, the only thing that matters is being the biggest rat.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 13, 2005 11:32 AM (0yYS2)
11
ummmm. Why all the talk about Kos ? Is he really important or significant ? What I think we should be doing is tying to analyze the letter. Are they really that confident of success ? If so we should be taking a second look at our own assesment of their morale. And how can we improve our own national morale: by being brutally honest about the situation (giving aid and comfort to the enemy) or delusionally optimistic (tactics of desperation,last throes of the insurgents etc). Myself I want to be told an accurate assesment, no sugar coating please, and thank you.
Posted by: john Ryan at October 13, 2005 12:55 PM (ads7K)
Hide Comments
| Add Comment