October 13, 2004
Beheading Video: Zarqawi Murders Two Iraqis
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All pictures in this post are from the video. Link to the video is below. As you can see, those who wish to minimize the Iraqi involvement in fighting terrorists in their own land are sorely mistaken. Most of the recent hostage murders have been Iraqis themselves. Those who are involved in building a modern state in Iraq do so at the risk of their own lives.
Disclaimer: When I started posting about this subject I never expected the terrorists to begin beheading people on a daily basis. I am saddened to keep posting on this subject. However, I still feel strongly that most Americans have forgotten what it was like to watch the Twin Towers fall. They have forgotten what it was like to watch people jumping out of those buildings. Many claim to remember, but an intellectual understanding of such attrocities is not enough. Let the images and video posted below remind you of the sick SOBs we are fighting. We fight for our secularism, we fight for religious choice, and we fight for our civilization. AP:
A videotape that was posted Wednesday on an Islamic Web site showed militants affiliated with wanted Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi beheading two Iraqis purported to be intelligence officers...The video can be downladed at the Terrorist Media website, but there is a subscription required.
The 10-minute videotape showed two captives, Fadhel Ibrahim and Firas Imeil, identifying themselves as Iraqi National Intelligence officers and saying they were captured in Baghdad's Haifa Street on Sept. 28.
The tape showed four masked gunmen standing behind Ibrahim and then Imeil, with one militant describing the blindfolded captives as "criminals."
The militant speaking in the tape mentioned the recent U.S.-led attacks against militants in the Iraqi city of Samarra and appeared to acknowledge a setback for insurgents in the city.
"Let America and those behind it know that what had happened in Samarra was a mere labor pain," the militant said, adding that "war has its ups and downs." U.S. and Iraqi troops claimed success earlier this month when they swept into Samarra, an insurgent stronghold northwest of Baghdad.
"It is a disgrace that such a criminal is considered as a member of our nation," the militant said. Then two other masked men held down Ibrahim and a third severed the captive's head with a knife before holding it up to the camera.
Imeil, who said he joined the Iraqi intelligence services four months ago and attended a training course in Jordan, was killed in identical fashion.
Before being beheaded, both victims advised fellow Iraqis working in the intelligence, police, national guard and other services to quit their jobs and "repent to God."
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Rusty, I agree with you! How can we expect to reason with these idiots if they are beheading their own people???? How can anyone say it's Bush fault for invading their country? If so, then what is their excuse for beheading their own? That's a lame excuse to blame it on our invasion of Iraq.
You're right...these people forgot the images of the twin towers, MY HOMETOWN, as a matter of fact, and they DARE SAY WE STARTED IT?????
I don't get it...why is everyone against me and not attacking your views as well? I agree with you!
Posted by: Laura at October 13, 2004 05:23 PM (ptOpl)
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People can have their opinions and different views...that's what freedom is but that doesn't mean that any1 can say anthing for eg..ur comment I guess last week about nuking whole of Iraq...how can you say such thing...Here you try to justify Bush about defending ur country ( orginal cause for war ) and liberating the people ( post war cause )...just because some lunatics have decided to use the video/internet for false propoganda to scare the people .In fact those people are would be smiling by viewing ur comments!!! Like someone mentioned previously ...if some lunatic serial killer went on a rampage in New york ..you mean to say lets destroy the whole City.
n.b. Laura didn't u mention before that u'll never be back here....Contraditions to the Core!!!
Posted by: Roopesh at October 14, 2004 12:46 AM (WI3RO)
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I'm with Laura as far as taking drastic measures.
OK don't nuke IRAQ in its entirety but nuke the 3-4 cities where the insurgents are hiding.
Also, after Hensley's, Armstrong's and Bigley's barbaric deaths, line up those women captives (Zarqawi was trying to release), and execute them.
Unfortunately, this is the only language they understand. They are vermin and should be treated like so with no sympathy, remorse or emotion.
Anything less is just a waste of time.
Posted by: expat at October 14, 2004 01:49 AM (2+AnM)
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I believe if you want to see the Twin Towers, you can go to www.neverforget.com and they will even put it on your site. Every time I see it, I cry like a baby. We should never forget it and never forget these atrocities either.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 14, 2004 02:55 AM (D39Vm)
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I think the blog is beginning to lose its way. The continual posting of the beheadings seems more to satisfy the voyeuritic tendencies of a few. By all means continue to voice your objections and disgust at the murders, continue to make the videos available for the weirdoes,but we do not need to be bombarded with graphic video images unless of course, that, that is your thing.
Posted by: James at October 14, 2004 04:37 AM (4PPsx)
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They are kidnapping and killing people that are there to improve their country. It is so disgusting. I guess they go by the motto of "cutting of your nose (or head) to spite your face"! Let them rebuild the roads and schools and telecommunications system if they are so opposed to anyone else doing it! I know that many of you say we cannot associate all Muslims or Iraqis with the wrong doings of these terrorists but it is hard not to do so. It is unimaginable to believe that nothing can be done to catch them and stop these killings. Someone must know who and where they are! Why are they not giving them up? If we are fighting for them and there freedom and safety, why are they not doing the same?!
Posted by: brigette at October 14, 2004 09:58 AM (/W64G)
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Quoted above
""""I'm with Laura as far as taking drastic measures.
OK don't nuke IRAQ in its entirety but nuke the 3-4 cities """""...
well it's the same thing whether u nuke the whole Iraq or a City..u kill innocent people!!!..How the hell do any1 know that the insurgents responsible for these acts reside in those cities...
One thing is sure the whole ideas of nuking cities from the bogs here and elsewhere is that they have realized that the |intelligence | is totally screwed up!!!....No Doubt
Also I agree with James..it's enough posting images of the dead..Pay respect for the families. Provide details but not grapically!!!
Posted by: Roopesh at October 14, 2004 12:14 PM (q9wBH)
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"well it's the same thing whether u nuke the whole Iraq or a City..u kill innocent people!!!.."
I say that because I am results oriented. Innocent people died in Hiroshima too but it got the job done...I know it's unfortunate but that's war and after 9/11 we are at war.
Also, how come there are no reports on the Darfur crisis?
Posted by: expat at October 14, 2004 03:48 PM (qvZMx)
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Problem with Zarqawi is that he isn't from Iraq...
He's just a Islamonutter who's holed himself up there.
He knew shit would be going down there so he knew he had an element of security amongst the chaos. He knows we won't go bombing indiscriminately for fear of killing the "innocents".
They're beheading people with such regularity these days that you just hope they get a bit complacent one night and pick on the wrong people.
The fact that we're "tiring" of these beheading videos could be seen as a good or bad thing...
Good because if no one bothers to download them anymore, that is less propoganda going out on their behalf.
Bad because if they see this is not working, they might crank things up a bit to grab our attention once more... if they're capable of tying a man's arms behind his back and chopping his head off with a knife, they're capable of anything.
Posted by: red Devil at October 14, 2004 05:01 PM (+RFhU)
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As an aside, and I've said it before. Surely it is not beyond our means and technical ability to ensure that a significant number of "likely targets" be fitted with some kind of "tracking device"?
Posted by: Red Devil at October 14, 2004 05:05 PM (+RFhU)
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Expat.....The reason for going to war was to rid Saddam of his WMDs and liberate Iraq from his tyranny. To suggest using them in Iraq would stink of hypocrisy and shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation and a lack of respect for human life. Your final solution is ill thought out.
Red devil.....it is not that the images are tiring or that they have lost their impact. When I read an article about someone's beheading I dont need pictures or the video footage to reinforce my feelings of outrage and disgust. As far as I can see, watching such gruesome material satisfies a morbid curiosity and in no way enhances or enriches one's life or understanding of the situation.
Posted by: James at October 15, 2004 02:13 AM (4PPsx)
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Laura: Everyone is not against you. Most are for you. It's just that we have figured out what Roopesh, and james the America hater are. Both of them probably wear their dirty laundry on their heads. So why talk or listen to them. Don't even read their posts. Not worth the time.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 15, 2004 09:34 AM (CBNGy)
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Red Devil: It's true that the pig Zarqawi is not from Iraq. It is true that the Sunni's are supporting and protecting him. They are quilty too. I'll always remember who was dancing in the streets after 9/11. I'll never forgive them or have any feeling of pity or sorry for them.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 15, 2004 09:41 AM (CBNGy)
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I do not hate America nor Americans. I disagree with Bush's foreign policies. After our last debate, I suggested that we refrain fom personal attacks. By all means continue to disagree with me if that is your choice, but it is still possible to be courteous.
Posted by: James at October 15, 2004 10:24 AM (4PPsx)
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James,
the reason going to IRAQ was oil and containment of terrorist prolification including the WMD, but I don't buy the liberation crap, I mean we supported saddam in the IRAN-IRAQ war, you can't be that naive. Why don't we go and liberate the poor south Sudanese people of Darfur whose little girls are being r@aped by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi affiliates. (clue: no oil in Sudan)
You are right about the nuking and loss of life but it's hard not to get carried away. There must be some kind of nuke that can annihilate a small section of a city just establish a perimeter and use it, IÂ’m afraid that's the only way you know you got them, the world won't give a shit and even if it does who cares, the US has lost 1052 fine kids over there to date. I hate to think that we will have to drop another American soul for these scum bags.
Also, if these fundamentalists had a nuke they would use it on us in a heart beat.
Posted by: expat at October 15, 2004 02:36 PM (E4xJc)
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Yes, thats right.
The Americans are not bothering with Sudan because there is no oil there.
Ahem ::>> The first export of crude oil from Sudan in August 1999 marked a turning point in the countryÂ’s complex civil war, now in its twentieth year: oil became the main objective and a principal cause of the war. Oil now figures as an important remaining obstacle to a lasting peace and oil revenues have been used by the government to obtain weapons and ammunition that have enabled it to intensify the war and expand oil development. Expansion of oil development has continued to be accompanied by the violent displacement of the agro-pastoral southern Nuer and Dinka people from their traditional lands atop the oilfields. Members of such communities continue to be killed or maimed, their homes and crops burned, and their grains and cattle looted.
The large-scale exploitation of oil by foreign companies operating in the theatre of war in southern Sudan has increased human rights abuses there and has exacerbated the long-running conflict in Sudan, a conflict marked already by gross human rights abuses—two million dead, four million displaced since 1983—and recurring famine and epidemics.
(oh, by the way ~ the Americans refuse to deal with Sudanese oil)
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/sudan1103/8.htm#_Toc54492556
try infowars.com ~ much better conspiracy theories there for sure.
Posted by: qpr jon at October 16, 2004 09:19 AM (JxziM)
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HEY JAMES: aka shit for brains. You call my president names I call you names. Get it. I've waiting for you to complain about the name calling. Now you know why. When a terrorist hugging shit like you stops demeaning my country and its leaders I will stop calling you names. Talk about your own country. You're not one of us, though you probably wish you were, so quit saying derogatory things about my country and it's leaders. I've yet to hear an American say anything bad about your country. This proves Americans are better than you. Change up asshole and you will get the respect you claim to deserve. Until then, kiss my American ass you terrorist loving sissy.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 16, 2004 01:48 PM (CBNGy)
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I beleive one thing in this world that we can never change is people wanting to distroy each other. As far back as you look people have been at heads with each other. Im sure even cave men even attacked each other. The problem today is the scale of the attacks and weapons used and so much hatred bred into people.The world is getting more and more populated ,to see the starving children in the world is devistating and will only continue on and on for generations to come.And religion will also forever be a huge issue . I beleive as long as there is humans on this earth there will be death and distruction.We can try and do as much as we can to control it but it will never ever end
Posted by: JANEOZZIE at October 17, 2004 01:54 AM (V7/EH)
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Roopesh, what are you, the Blog Monior? Yeah, so, I did say I wouldn't be back, what of it? I can't change my mind?
Your comments about innocents being killed when we bomb, although true, that's what happens in war! There is always friendly fire, and others who unfortunately will be hurt or killed. You don't hear about the American soldier who carried an injured Iraqi child after a bomb blast? Of course not. If you remember the Viet Nam war, they called us "baby killers"...what do you expect when there is a war? That you can pick and choose when the enemy is all over the place?
And no, a serial killer comparison is not the argument here...of course we wouldn't "nuke" NYC is a killer was on the loose! This is a war, much different.
We bombed Japan..you don't see them starting any shit since then...actually, they like us now!
The beheadings are being used as an excuse that we "illegally invaded" Iraq. The terrorists want everyone to believe that they are doing this as revenge for going there.
Does no one think that this started a long time ago, even before 9/11? We should have taken care of this long before we invaded Iraq. Especially when the towers were attacked in '93. What did Clinton do? Why is Bush being blamed for everything? America didn't start this war.
We are only trying to finish it. I agree that we may have gotten into more than we can handle in Iraq. It's time to get our troops back now, and let them do whatever the hell they want with their country. We went there to help and if that meant trying to snuff out the enemy there, why are the others, such as CoogarUK and his group of anti-American Brits, saying that we illegally invaded Iraq? None of them have ever said what THEY'D do to stop terrorism. All they do is continue to bash Bush and America. And the only reason they are doing so, is because their country's in it too! They wouldn't even be discussing the subject had Blair not joined in alliance with Bush!
Do they really care, or is it because they fear an attack on their own country, which fortunately, has NOT happened to THEM...do they not think that if an attack on their country happened, that they wouldn't be just as angry as us Americans are?
Posted by: Laura at October 17, 2004 01:01 PM (ptOpl)
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Hey greyrooster, I said the same thing on another thread about how these so called "innocents" were celebrating in the streets and passing out candy after the 9/11 attacks.
Someone commented that that was actually taken years ago, during the Gulf War and was used as propaganda after 9/11!
Can anyone verify this? And where's the Kin Bigley thread...can't find it...the one where there's like 400 or so comments?
Posted by: Laura at October 17, 2004 01:08 PM (ptOpl)
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Never mind, I found the Bigley blog. Seems there's so much Rusty's reporting on now, you have to get it through the old archives. Bookmarked it now.
Carry on....
Posted by: Laura at October 17, 2004 06:56 PM (ptOpl)
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Expat......I agree that the real reason for going to war was oil and that Saddam's alleged possession of WMDs was the catalyst for the invasion. I do not buy the "liberation" theory either and was merely citing it as one of the official reasons that Bush et al have used.
I still refute the idea that any use of WMDs would be productive. Moreover it would be illegal and immoral. I am not a soldier or an arm chair general and could offer no suggestion as to how to counter the terrorists.
Laura.....your understanding of the war is child-like. How old are you, 15? Would suggest you do a little more research and come up with your own condclusions rather than regurgitate the views of those who have absolutely no understanding of the war at all. Believe me, it makes you look more stupid than paehaps you actually are.
Greyrooster.....As I said, I have neither the time nor the inclination to get involved in a slanging match with you. If you have something imtelligent to say, by all means say it. But if your posts continue to be personal attacks, so be it, frankly I couldn't care less.
Posted by: James at October 18, 2004 03:33 AM (4PPsx)
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Are the arguments moving over to this thread now, besides the Ken Bigley one? James, you and Coogar UK can take your anti-American comments and shove them up your "arses" where they belong.
Anyone who has a diff. point of view is "stupid, childish and ignorant" according to you and him. I am not 15, I have a son who's 15, though, not that I have to prove anything to you.
All you have done is lambasted and insulted anyone that disagrees with you, as is CoogarUK. What a horrible representation of your country! I got an email from "Miss Brit" who only posted here once, because she was horrified and disgusted by comments made from "her country"...she said although she didn't agree with my views, she repsected them and would never insult anyone for their opinions. She was embarrassed by the flame flinging by her fellow mates, and asked me to please not think that all Brits are like that.
Personally, if you don't care, then why talk about it? Stick to discussing the debate and leave the "childish" insults and snide remarks at home.
Look who's 15 now!
Posted by: Laura at October 18, 2004 08:09 AM (ptOpl)
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JAMES the America hater: If you could care less, then quit crying. Sissy.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 18, 2004 09:43 AM (CBNGy)
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LAURA: That crap about substituting films was just another attempt to take pressure off. The truth is the Islamic trouble makers were unsure of our reaction to 9/11. Many of them though we would retaliate immediately against all known America hating organizations. Maybe some terrorist supporting countries too. They didn't want to be the ones to receive our rightful wrath. In fact, Arafat had his goons going around palestine collecting any video tapes taken of their dancing in the streets. If you remember, the 1st news tapes that came out showed their block parties. Then suddenly no more. I believe the government squashed them due to fear of retaliation against muslims in the US.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 18, 2004 10:04 AM (CBNGy)
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Differences of points of view are what make a debate. I have exchanged views with many people without having caused offence or taken offence. But sadly too often, there are those who submit posts which are nothing more than rants. I have not intended to cause offence and if you disagree with my point of view so be it, that is your right. Greyrooster's rants are not worthy of comment. Bored with this now.
Posted by: James at October 18, 2004 10:38 AM (4PPsx)
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Bullshit copout, James. We can disagree, but please let's do i w/o being disagreeable! If you Brits are so against the illegal invasion of Iraq, then complain to Blair and stop bitching to us. The only reason you're even on this blog is b/c of Britian's involvement in the Iraq invasion, otherwise, you wouldn't give a shit!
America was invaded. Never in a million years would we have thought this would ever happen on US soil, but it has, so we must defend ourselves. And if this means we need to seek out countries that may hold terrorists at bay, then so be it.
Innocents are killed every day in the name of war, I'm not saying it's right, but it's a fact. Any country, if so invaded, would defend themselves.
Posted by: Laura at October 18, 2004 03:31 PM (ptOpl)
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Nobody takes offense or means to offend, until you start mouthing off about how stupid and childish others are for their points of view, James! It puts folks on the defensive, savvy?
Now that you've properly riled up the Americans, you now state that you are "bored".
Typical childish banterings. Wouldn't you say so? The bully is bored now, he doesn't want to play anymore now that he's met his match.
Posted by: Laura at October 18, 2004 08:05 PM (ptOpl)
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Laura.... you should really engage your brain before sharing your thoughts, otherwise you will constantly be perceived as some rather thick gullible school girl. And your latest post provides further proof of this. Firstly America was never invaded by Iraq. Secondly the 9/11 attacks were an act of war, but they did not constitute an invasion. Would suggest you find a dictionary/lexicon and look up the word, invasion. Using words out of context is frustrating for the reader and does little to enhance the kudos of the author. Now why dont you do me a favour and go off to play with your friends. Your are to young to concern yourself with such weighty matters. Enjoy your innocense whilst it lasts. As I said yesterday, I am bored now.......and have no inclination to humour silly little girls. Bye bye
Posted by: James at October 19, 2004 04:22 AM (4PPsx)
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Then stay the fuck off the blog if you feel you're dealing with children. Case closed.
Posted by: Laura at October 19, 2004 07:32 AM (ptOpl)
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Laura.....charming language, but save it for the playground! For someone who purports to be the mother of a 15 year old, you should really mind your Ps and Qs.
Posted by: James at October 19, 2004 08:16 AM (4PPsx)
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Thanks!
Seems you are enjoying this back and forth bantering. Who's being childish now? You and CoogUK are on the same wave length...why don't you and he get together at some pub for some pints and discuss the debate amongst yourselves?
Better yet, go email Blair and tell him how upset you are for his involving your country in Iraq.
That's what this is all about, isnt' it? Would you evenn be posting on this blog if your country wasn't involved?
Posted by: Laura at October 19, 2004 09:37 AM (ptOpl)
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Laura.....presumptious as well as well as having a limited vocabulary!! Never claimed to be British nor any other nationality. Not everybody opposed to the war is British or European for that matter.
L8rs loser.
Posted by: James at October 19, 2004 10:00 AM (4PPsx)
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Limited vocabulary? hehehe...look at what you just posted, "as well as as well as".
Look we can go on all day trading barbs back and forth. I for one, wish to get back to the business of discussing the beheadings, as what this blog is all about, and stop arguing back and forth whether or not you think the invasion in Iraq was illegal.
Fact remains we are THERE, now, what should we do about it? I'm not afraid to say blast em, but no one else has said how THEY would fight terrorism...oh, besides holding hands and chanting peace be with us all.
Posted by: Laura at October 19, 2004 12:25 PM (ptOpl)
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this shit is the most fucked up twisted i ever seen, his fuckin head is on his back for christ sake, the mo fucker was hacking the shit out of his neck, im surprised he got through the spine, musta worked out before he hacked off the guys head, strong mother fucker!!!
Posted by: Humble Giant at November 06, 2004 02:18 AM (uqVjX)
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i agree with the giant, some crazy shit goin down there, in my opinion, yous should bomb my ass till the red meat shows, bomb like mother fuckers, oh ya and hail osama mother fuckers
Posted by: Crazy Iraqi at November 06, 2004 02:21 AM (uqVjX)
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Haven't you heard of the "Blue Sky" conspriacy?
Posted by: teutobod at January 20, 2005 12:21 PM (/RXTg)
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Haven't you heard of the "Blue Sky" conspriracy?
Posted by: teutobod at January 20, 2005 12:21 PM (/RXTg)
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Haven't you heard of the "Blue Sky" conspiracy?
Posted by: teutobod at January 20, 2005 12:22 PM (/RXTg)
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Of course, all of you have had the same life experiences of all the so-called terrorists. After watching your wife get raped in front of you, your sister maimed, your children shot, etc.. let's see your mental state on having people who live their lives like animals invading your country. Of course, someone rapes your family member, and you would petition the government... Well, guess what>? It doesn't work. Bush has got his head so far up his ass, he thinks he is a devout Christian. He acts and knows nothing of the true teachings of Jesus!
Posted by: DA MAN at January 22, 2005 07:50 AM (9LyD7)
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to all of the above. If you look back at all history it is filled with bloodshed of people military or not. Our own is one of the most violent of all. In french revolution they exocuited 11,ooo people in public, all beheading or hanging or other ways to kill that person. This is not a war, its a conflict of nations. The beheading is a tatic of war. We as americans try to paint that point over. We kill them and they kill everyone. Its part of the event that well happen no matter what you do. go a head protest or pray to god or join the military a kill a few of them but the death will not stop untill someone submits and its not going to be the US for sure. so lets go with it and see what happens you cant controll chaos, unless that is what war is controlled chaos.
Posted by: Amox85 at February 02, 2005 09:38 PM (F4kFV)
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i think that who ever does this to people are sad and it is absoloutly discusting that they can torcher there own people and treat them this way i think they should grow up if they can treat people this way people should treat them this way when i seen them pictures i was sick!!!!!!!!!!!
regan evans
Posted by: regan evans at October 10, 2005 08:48 AM (mCCKO)
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i think it is absolutly stupid that they are torchuring there own people,it is there fault that this has happend,
because of the twin towers,we did not expect any of this... i dont no how they can treat people like this!
why are they doing this?we are all humen biengs! its all sick!!!
Posted by: farron burgess at October 10, 2005 08:52 AM (mCCKO)
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hiya faz wat u up 2 u ok wat u doin 2nyt so wat u fink bout dis init nasty i feel fukin sik im jus chillin x x x x x x x x x x x x x lv regan yoyo
Posted by: regan at October 10, 2005 08:57 AM (mCCKO)
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hello i think it is horrible about all this they need 2 think about wot they r doing,they are torturing there own people
Posted by: hollie at October 15, 2005 09:11 AM (Xzct2)
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yes regan,i think dis is horrible,they need to respect each other,i dont think they have no brains,or they need to screw it back together,they need to saught them self out clean man lolzzzzz .....any way regan what u up to? am board,i got nothing to do....tell me more wot do u think of this
Posted by: faz at October 22, 2005 05:05 PM (hu96I)
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i think this shit is sick we all need PEACE you know. thats a word thats supposed to describe our lives but obviously some people want to go against it. in every country there are evil people lettin there country down but 90% of each country are inocent people who do this need to put themselves in the inocent peoples shoes and then they will see we have a life that needs living so let people live it!thank you.PEACE OUT!
Posted by: jenwen at October 22, 2005 05:14 PM (hu96I)
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YES JENWEN everything u said is true,but what can we do???anywayz PEACE OUT!!!LOL
Posted by: FAZ at October 22, 2005 05:19 PM (hu96I)
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