Well I have been arguing with myself for a couple days about this. As many of you are aware Mike Pechar hit a home run on the London bombings the other day. He had more trackbacks than a dog has fleas. Also he was drawing comments from the world over at an astonishing rate. Well that was until a couple comments seemed to slow many others down or drive them away all together. IÂ’m really trying hard to say this in fair and unbiased manner. So if I piss anyone off I just want to say up front that is not my intention. I hope that we can all enjoy the web site and have our comments read by the widest possible audience.
I noted that the thread was accumulating comments left and right. We were picking up new readers. All our statements and comments were being read not only by regulars here but also potential new readers as well. People from all over the world. Then came the insults to the queen and the profanity. Personally I thought that the insults the queen were particularly in bad taste considering the events of the day. After that it became the Greg and Carlos show. Other comments especially from new readers seemed to vanish. I think MikeÂ’s thread could have easily went over two hundred comments had we just thought about it for a few more seconds before we hit that post button. See not only did Mike loose readers so did you. I know several of you like to go around and piss on every post like a dog on patrol. That is fine and dandy with me. For the most part I enjoy most of it. If you would just take a couple minutes to consider what thread you are on and also that you are shitting in your own nest. You not only drive off MikeÂ’s readers, which was totally unfair to him. You also drive off readers of your own comments and ideas.
IÂ’m not really into banning and if you think that deleting comments is that hard IÂ’m sure I can figure it out should I choose to. I have pretty much free rein as far as permissions go. And itÂ’s mostly a matter of point and click and taking the time to do so. All I ask is that you consider the thread and if you want to piss all over one choose an appropriate thread. Any thread is OK with me after the other comments have died out a bit but this one was still pretty active. Like I say you not only drove off MikeÂ’s readers but yours as well. I see you guys out here every day and I know and understand what is jest and what is not(well at least some days). But other readers especially on a day when we have the potential to grow our audience are not used to that and may be quickly put off.
So this is just some friendly advice. Carlos and Greg are just the examples of the day and are by no means the only ones. In fact they come up with some really good stuff some days. I think a lot of people come here just to read the arguments and your comments are welcome on my threads and appreciated. Characters like Greg that people love to hate draw an audience to a certain extent. IÂ’m not sure where the line should be but I think we may have crossed over it the other day. So IÂ’m not trying to pick on you guys itÂ’s just that on that day you happened to be the ones I noticed. Also YBP seems to have a pretty good sense of what is a little too much and I appreciate his attempt to bring order to the thread.
For any new readers itÂ’s just that way and you may have to overlook a few things but donÂ’t let it discourage you from posting a comment. Just ignore it if you can. Should you confront them, that is just more encouragement for them. They are pretty good at arguing so you may loose that fight. Well thatÂ’s all the preaching I have in me for today. IÂ’m sure Rusty will have his own opinion about this. I really donÂ’t know what that will be he is pretty tolerant as I am. Just a few more seconds of thought and all of us could have picked up more readers for all the authors and also the commentators. Radical statements do get attention both good and bad and I see that some of you make them just to get notice. Be careful that you attract readers and donÂ’t drive them off. ItÂ’s a thin line for sure and walking it is difficult, try not to get too carried away. I thought about addressing each of you on a personal level by email. So please by all means feel free to email me or post your dissent or agreement below.
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I'm not sure who the author of this thread is. I'm guessing Howie, but it really doesn't matter. I shall try to be more civilized in the future. It's not always easy when one is being engaged agressively by multiple parties, but I'll try to do a better job.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 01:59 PM (sAo9p)
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>>>"After that it became the Greg and Carlos show."
You're telling me every single person on this blog doesn't regularly get into a pissing contest with greg? Ridiculous. It's obvious why you singled greg out. I mean look at the guy, he's an embarrassment. But ME?
Posted by: Carlos at July 10, 2005 02:28 PM (8e/V4)
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No offense, but you may want to use spell check. "To loose" means to unbind or let loose; it is not the opposite of "to win".
Also, some advice to the rest of you lot: engaging in colorful anatomical imagery may be good for a few laughs among the locker room set, but these are trying times and innocent lives are at stake, so how about a greater emphasis on facts and logic, and leave the nightmarish raving to the real lunatics out there.
Posted by: DWC at July 10, 2005 02:29 PM (xT77+)
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Howie, forgive me for this.
Greg: This will be the last time I ever address you for it is completely useless to try to get you to embrace common sense or even adhere to simple facts. You can try to be "civil" all you want - the lies and misinformation and conspiracies you promote are still what they are. You cannot hide your true character behind a façade of civility. I don't know if you suffer from acute paranoia or complete naïveté, furthermore, I don't care anymore. I'm finished with you.
Posted by: Oyster at July 10, 2005 03:43 PM (YudAC)
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But I came here looking for nightmarish raving from real lunatics! Oh, wait...
Posted by: IO ERROR at July 10, 2005 03:59 PM (HaVXj)
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Oyster: So glad you got it. I quit dealing with the prick months ago.
Now Carlos: For months you have had me beating my head on the wall every time you engage in dialogue with the two legged prick Greg. Stop wasteing your intellect on garbage. Sometimes I think you believe you can save assholes like Greg. You can't. Put that energy and intelligence to better use. The Gregs, Colon Babelers and such are not worth conversing with.
This Blog has come to a point where we can begin coming up with solutions. Maybe someone will listen if we come up with something of value.
Anyway. I hope you get my point. I will support any patriot like yourself even if you don't get my point.
Our patriotic contributors have beaten back the anti-America/Bush/Christian/tell it like it is pricks.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 04:13 PM (CBNGy)
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Just think Greg. If you hadn't of cheered for the enemy. Defamed this great nation. Attacked our duly elected leaders. You could have been part of the solution. As it is now. Personally, I don't trust you as a good American. So piss on ya. Grow up and try again because in reality if you aren't with us your against us.
I've never claimed America was perfect. But its far ahead of anything in second place.
The muslim bastards have attacked our faithful ally. Our best friend. What are we going to to about it? Argue or kick ass?
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 04:23 PM (yMx70)
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Greyrooster, a.k.a. Bablar: everyone who hates the klan will gang together and kick your racist ass. You are a defamation to the great nation and an insult to others. Your mother is a hamster.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 10, 2005 04:38 PM (ScqM8)
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Fuck it. In your face, nazi bastards.
Police hunt 'mercenary' terror gang recruited by al-Qa'ida
Police and intelligence agents are investigating the theory that a gang of white "mercenary terrorists" was hired by al-Qa'ida to carry out last week's devastating attacks on London.
Translation: "The witnesses all saw white guys placing the bombs, so we gotta figure out a story by which we can keep the blame on them Aye-rhabs. With over 6000 video cameras monitoring the subway system, there are no pictures of Aye-rhabs with bombs. It follows that the Aye-rhabs must have recruited Englishmen for this attack. Yeah, that's the story, wink, wink, nudge, nudge!"
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 04:49 PM (6ryQI)
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Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
The transcript is as follows.
POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.
Mr. Power and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on the bombing' or anything of that nature for this to be of importance. The British government or one of their private company offshoots could have hired Visor to run the exercise for a number of purposes.
The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.
This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.
It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.
The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 05:00 PM (6ryQI)
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Terror Expert Backs Up Claim Of Netanyahu Warning Before First Blast
Action News 36 | July 09 2005
Terrorism expert Tommy Preston of Preston Global in Frankfort, Kentucky, said sources in the intelligence community reported that at least one person in London, England was warned of Thursday morning's terrorist attacks moments before the initial blast. Preston, citing sources in the intelligence community, said former Israeli Prime Minister and current Finance Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was in London this morning for an economic forum. "Just before the first blast, Netanyahu got a call from the Israeli Embassy telling him to stay in his hotel room. The hotel is located next to the subway station where the first attack occurred and he did stay put and shortly after that, there was the explosion," Preston said.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 05:07 PM (6ryQI)
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Howie:
This is a blog where the entire format is an insulting spoof of arab muslims using dorky little star wars characters and analogies. The bombing, to say the very least, is an event that will draw out powerful emotions in people...and given these two facts, you are requesting some sort of civil discourse in the commentary?
What did you expect?
Kirk
Posted by: Mr. K at July 10, 2005 05:08 PM (TP5kx)
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More of the attacks by those hooded cowards its time to root the radicals out of those middle east countries and put them out of buisness for good
Posted by: sandpiper at July 10, 2005 05:38 PM (162Hn)
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Sounds like deleting coments may be in order. A screening process is what I would recommend. Not your "automated" one but a real, live, *THINKING* person reading comments before the make it to the blog. I'm not an IEEE man so I do not know how this can be done. I am sure it would be time consuming.... but G+C; need I say more?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 10, 2005 06:56 PM (Z6yVb)
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Thanks greg, your class act stuff gives us the conclusive evidence as usual:
OBL is a fake and the Islamists never intended to bombed anything, it was Mossad all the time.
It's the big*ss conspiracy all over again.. How's the ufo activity in your area? Black choppers still hovering above your house?
seriously, you're obsessed and delusional,seek out some serious counseling before it's too late.
Posted by: IM at July 10, 2005 07:39 PM (a9tRx)
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"Just before the first blast, Netanyahu got a call from the Israeli Embassy telling him to stay in his hotel room. The hotel is located next to the subway station where the first attack occurred and he did stay put and shortly after that, there was the explosion," Preston said.
Well by golly I'm convinced! Who could imagine that the world's best intel agency might have gotten evidence that gave them reason to suspect a possible terrorist attack? Nah, we all know it was da Jooooooooos what did it, same as they attacked the Germans, same as they started the Six Day War, same as they started the Yom Kippur war, same as they hijacked all those planes, same as they kidnapped all those people, same as they set off all those suicide bombs, same as they blew up the WTC..., no wait, those were all done by nazis and islamofascists. Oops.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 08:14 PM (0yYS2)
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You allow Greg and his foul mouth and anti-semitic lies because he amuses you. That your amusement backfires on you is a surprise? Excuse me, I have little sympathy Rusty.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at July 10, 2005 09:04 PM (xauGB)
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http://news.google.com/news?q=%22+Visor+Consultants%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1&newwindow=1&as_qdr=all&tab=wn&filter=0
so what are the sources of the agencies reporting this exercise ?
Aljazeera.com
Indymedia
Vive Le Canada
Canada Free Press
uruknet.info,Italy
Torontofreepress.com
excuse me if I wait for someone with an inch of credibility to break the story.
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 10:40 PM (fsJ2z)
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People like Greg make blogs hard reading.
A blog's main advantage over news groups is that each one that allows comments is, effectively, a moderated news group. Better to start an "alt" group than not trim out the trolls and idiots. At least we can killfile people in usenet.
Do you know if a comment's author could be listed at the top of a comment so we know who it is from so we can just jump over the ones we do not want to read?
I don't know anything about RSS. Does it allow a killfile function?
Posted by: Phillep at July 10, 2005 11:11 PM (zNjIG)
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I say weed out klan members like greyrooster/bablar who recruits for a hate group.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 05:47 AM (ScqM8)
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Phillep: At the bottom of each post, just to the left of the time, is the author. Unless it's Demosophist. He puts his at the top.
Posted by: Oyster at July 11, 2005 05:58 AM (YudAC)
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On a lighter note, guys, and definately off-topic:
Found
this through Wizbang.
Indeed.
Posted by: Oyster at July 11, 2005 06:09 AM (YudAC)
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Just listened to the audio of what Greg gave us. Greg is NOT lying.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 06:24 AM (ScqM8)
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"Blair rejects calls for probe into bombings
Tony Blair will on Monday reject Conservative demands for a government inquiry into last week's London bomb attacks, insisting such a move would distract from the task of catching the perpetrators.
As police and security services continued searching for the bombers - thought to be Islamist terrorists - Downing Street said the prime minister believed an inquiry now into the outrage which killed at least 49 people would be a "ludicrous diversion." "
Absolutely incredible! Got something to hide Tony?
As I recall, Bush didn't want a 9-11 investigation either. When he finally asceded, the investigation was a sham.
Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 06:47 AM (QGP/e)
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The goddamned coalition of the willing is a sham!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 07:12 AM (ScqM8)
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TO THOSE WHO HAVE SENT ME EMAIL TO NEUROMAN268@YAHOO.COM, AN ACCOUNT I USE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE JAWA REPORT, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT RESPONDING. I'M IN A REMOTE VILLAGE ON THE COAST OF SOUTHERN ITALY AND ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO DIAL UP. i CAN SEE THAT I HAVE 4 NEW MESSAGES, BUT THEY WON'T OPEN, EVEN AFTER WAITING 20 MINUTES. i GIVE UP.
Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 08:20 AM (8GJeb)
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Bush's "coalition of the killing" is overwhelmed and he is to blame.
Rooster, Thanos and the Gimp should slap on some body armor and take a spin down IED road before they shoot off any more warmongering b.s.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 08:45 AM (ScqM8)
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Howie: Carlos was defending the Queen.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 08:51 AM (x+5JB)
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I posted a comment on 7/7 I needed to get the anger out of my system. I was confronted with vile references to my Queen. I have not visited this site since, until now. I'm very pleased this has been observed. However, the owner of this site would be pleased to know, that a person from the Times newspaper here in the UK on Saturday 9th July, had been trawling the internet for world-wide responses to the attacks in London. I was very pleased to have discovered that my comment that I made on this site was put into print on the time and date stated in the Times. So you see, you may not have lost people who would like to contribute to the themes and topics you provide on here.
Thankyou for letting me post.
Posted by: k at July 11, 2005 02:14 PM (PM/BC)
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K: I apologize for the comments others said. They have no excuses other than inconoclastic disrespect for authority. I wish I could say that "They know not what they do."
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 02:25 PM (x+5JB)
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God save the Queen, k, and we will not let Britain fall.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:38 PM (0yYS2)
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Thankyou for your comments guy's or gal's. But of course, I am not sleeping. I know the vast majority of decent Americans are and will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with us during this time.
Life is full of risk. When I was growing up in London, there were frequent IRA bomb attacks. I walked out of Harrods just five minutes before that notorious bomb exploded. But it didn't get me. Indeed, the chances of terrorists getting me - or any other individual living in London are still minuscule. Millions of us use the Tube every day and emerge unscathed. That can, of course, be no consolation to those who were caught up in Thurday's attacks and to their family and friends. But those of us who were not hurt must not allow the terrorists' to "get" us psychologically too.
A terrorist organisation such as al-Qaeda calculates that, say, forty deaths can cause ten million people to live in fear, to cease to use the Tube, to think about moving out of London altogether. If true, that is a very effective hit rate. But it depends crucially on us fulfilling the role they have designed for us. We don't have to. We can show the terrorists - after all we did it to the Germans in the Second World War - that we won't let their bombs change our way of life. We don't have to be cowed. We can choose instead to be proud of our courage in the face of adversity, and of our determination to carry on our lives regardless. That is the true British spirit.
Last week an Islamist website linked to al-Qaeda claimed that "Britain is burning with fear". Let us not give them the satisfaction of believing that. Let's get back on the Tube, back on the buses and back on the streets. Britain deserves no less.
Posted by: k at July 11, 2005 04:08 PM (PM/BC)
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Downing street memo: By now we have figured out the you are a black muslim. So give it up. Go find a watermelon patch and be happy. Hell, maybe your friends O.J. Simpson and Jessie Jackson will join you. Meanwhile, you're just another jealous copycat minority.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 08:21 PM (CBNGy)
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