I'm not going to DC to witness the demonstrations, because it's just too depressing. I once thought that any policy mistakes the US happens to make will get sorted out in the public debate. That's the way democracy works, I figured. But mainstream media doesn't even appear capable of discussing the 2005 hurricane phenomenon with any degree of competence, let alone the strategy and tactics we're using in the "Long War Against Irreconcilable Islam." It's not so much that they're wrong, as that there isn't even a core of sense to grab onto. It isn't that their analysis is flawed, so much as that they have no idea what they're talking about. It's like your mechanic telling you that your car isn't running because your parachute wasn't packed properly. We can't have productive discussions about policy because almost half the public doesn't realize the cheese has slid off their cracker.
Motorist: "Sir, do you think one reason the car doesn't, sort of... go might be that there's a transmission problem?"
Mechanic: "Transmission? Just LOOK at that car! How could the transmission be the problem? It's RED!"
Motorist: "Yeah, but... what?"
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Great analogy! What bothers me is that when you give them facts they can't handle it and they start with the name calling. A sure sign of intelligence....not!
Posted by: Anna at September 25, 2005 12:23 AM (nVvoC)
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Great post. It's really difficult to keep us focused on a TV program for an hour, let alone an epic struggle of civilizations over a lifetime.
How did we ever make it through the Cold War?
Posted by: See-Dubya at September 25, 2005 12:56 AM (Z+hKW)
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I was there. In the black bloc. We won, you lost. Get over it.
Posted by: molly at September 25, 2005 02:03 AM (b8jPc)
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I was there. In the black bloc. We won, you lost. Get over it.
I'd try to figure out what the deuce you're saying, except I seem to have misplaced my
Crazy-To-English Dictionary.
Posted by: Demosophist at September 25, 2005 02:15 AM (/Li9o)
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I think your analogy was a little flawed. It's a little more like shooting yourself in the head, and then explaining that it made you smarter while blood shoots out.
and look at that! no name calling....
Posted by: TheOx at September 25, 2005 02:29 AM (+FXfh)
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Yep, you won, Molly. The troops are coming home tomorrow, and Bush is resigning in shame. All because you put on a Zorro mask and looked mean on the Mall.
Riddle me this: you black bloc sorts are hard-core bomb-throwing anarchists. Yet you come to these rallies and do the bidding of thoroughgoing "archists"--UN toadies, one-worlders, meddlers, pecksniffs, and do-gooders. And don't forget your protests align nicely with the interests of blubbering theocratic fascists, like Iran's mullahs, or religious fantasists like Osama. If you are really a cadre of badass street-brawling paint-huffing nihilists, how come you fight relentlessly for the side of big government and Hegelian progressivism?
Huh?
Posted by: See-Dubya at September 25, 2005 03:04 AM (Z+hKW)
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It is becoming impossible to have an intellectual conversation with the left. It's as if they have left the planet for Mars where there is no global warming to bother them.
Posted by: From the Swamp at September 25, 2005 07:26 AM (7evkT)
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IÂ’ve been looking into the protest in London Saturday and, as well as not being able to muster enough marchers to fill a bath, it appears the only parents of soldiers willing to speak out against the war
didnÂ’t even lose their kids in Iraq. Pathetic.
Posted by: sortapundit at September 25, 2005 07:52 AM (F1nba)
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Yeah who wants to watch the usial bunch of jerks running around waving their stipid signs in the air we all know that the main-stream left-wing news media will cover them including Big Bad Wolf Blitzer and the Communist News Network
Posted by: sandpiper at September 25, 2005 09:18 AM (u2whF)
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The black bloc, like many, are simply like the goth kids that are trying so hard to be different that they're all alike. Wearing cute litle masks to hide their faces just like the jihadis. "Come on gang. It's dress up day! I got my allowance this morning. We can have pizza later and talk about how cool we are."
Posted by: Oyster at September 25, 2005 09:49 AM (YudAC)
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"It is becoming impossible to have an intellectual conversation with the left. It's as if they have left the planet for Mars where there is no global warming to bother them."
Can you expand on that statement a little more and explain in more detail how those of us on the left cannot be engaged in intellectual debate? I am ready to argue it with you, if you can explain what the hell you are talking about.
Posted by: TheOx at September 25, 2005 11:38 AM (+FXfh)
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Ox, you'll get your answer simply by scrolling through the comments section anywhere in this blog. How can we answer your particular questions until you've told us what they are?
Posted by: Oyster at September 25, 2005 11:41 AM (YudAC)
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"It is becoming impossible to have an intellectual conversation with the left. It's as if they have left the planet for Mars where there is no global warming to bother them."
"What bothers me is that when you give them facts they can't handle it and they start with the name calling. A sure sign of intelligence....not!"
"It's not so much that they're wrong, as that there isn't even a core of sense to grab onto. It isn't that their analysis is flawed, so much as that they have no idea what they're talking about."
I see a lot of name calling and little substance, from what I have copied and the little I have read.
But simply said, you wanted an intellectual debate..
Are we safer today then we were when the war in Iraq started?
What would you consider a success for the conservative movement? and are you willing to criticize elements of the right for your version of conservatism, has the right made mistakes in the last 20 years in getting to the point were they are today?
Posted by: TheOx at September 25, 2005 11:56 AM (+FXfh)
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Mr. Welch:
No, we are not any safer than we were whenever. And we will not be any safer any more, with or without the war in Iraq. Radical Islam has been resurrected, and nothing but the remaking of Islam itself can put this genie back in the bottle.
As I have said time after time, I was not in favor of the war in Iraq, but now that we are there, and every jihadi who can get there is there, we must stop them. If we lose, and radical Islam prevails, it will not be the death of the US. But it will be the death of someone. Perhaps the Sudan, or maybe Thailand, east Africa, but the Jihad will take on a new life. Europe is vulnerable. Would you be in favor of intervention there to stop the jihadists?
If we can not win in Iraq, where can we win? I have three children, one in the military, and I don't want them to have to live in the Dark Ages. I tell you that I am fearful for my son and my other children. I, for one, will not live under radical Islam. What's your take on it?
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 25, 2005 03:45 PM (rUyw4)
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Ox: One success would be to put a stop to paying the ACLU with our tax money so they can bully 93% of the population into submitting to the delicate sensibilities of 6% who are "offended" by references to "God". If there are kids in a school who don't want to partake in the Pledge of Allegiance or prayer that other students wish to, and they are "picked on" in any fashion, let's address those who do the "picking on" - not outlaw the free expression of the majority. If they want tolerance, then tolerance must be asked of both sides.
Posted by: Oyster at September 27, 2005 09:01 AM (fl6E1)
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What the hell is the black bloc? I've been doing so much work for the Honorable Knights of the Klu Klux Klan that I must be missing the latest.
Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 10:18 PM (ywZa8)
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