January 31, 2006
Maybe, but at least he's a loveable Nazi
Did I ever tell you that my guardian angel always appears to me in
the form of Colonel Klink? It's true. So if you're going to be
compared to a Nazi prison guard, you could do no worse than Klink.
Okay, maybe Schultz would be better. But Klink is a close second.
Colonel Klink, why hast thou forsaken me!
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I wonder how a guy like Murtha could stand to serve with this woman if she were to win a house seat with a campaign that replaced her opponentÂ’s Marine uniform with a Luftwaffe uniform. Even he must be repelled by this kind of thing.
AndÂ….
In what must have been the first victory for the PC police, Sgt. Kinchlo (a black American Prisoner.) would dress up as a German soldier when going out on sabotage missions. Man, those Krauts were dumb.
Posted by: Brad at January 31, 2006 10:01 AM (BJYNn)
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Coleen Rowley has now apologized for the photo...she blames a bumbling volunteer named Carter. She said she tried to contact Kline's office
to apologize, but the radio hidden in her coffee pot wasn't working.
Posted by: Duane at January 31, 2006 10:51 AM (bUHuL)
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Here via Michelle Malkin... I have to take issue with your characterization of Klink as lovable. You're not supposed to like Klink... granted, he's not as despicable as Hochstetter, but there's a reason he always loses (at Werner Klemperer's insistence). Schultz *is* lovable, but he's a toymaker, not a Nazi ("Me, an enemy? I'm just as loyal a German soldier as any prisoner here in this room!").
However, I would think that characterizing an opponent as Klink would label him as much incompetent as a Nazi. It's still unfair, though.
Brad: Thing is, Kinch almost always wore a mask and gloves when he went out in a German uniform. The only ep where I can remember that he didn't was "The Witness," and Hogan made sure to hide him when Hochstetter came along. So they weren't *that* dumb.
Posted by: Mama Bear at January 31, 2006 10:53 AM (NQM7T)
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Mama Bear,
I know, but there was this Simpsons episode...
Anyway, I sometimes mix up what happened to Homer with my own life.
Posted by: Rusty at January 31, 2006 10:55 AM (JQjhA)
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Regarding Murtha, who says he's appalled? He may have been a troop supporter, but he doesn't seem to be now.
Posted by: ScottG at January 31, 2006 12:19 PM (Dxc5X)
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fwiw, Col. Klink was not a Nazi.
Colonel Klink was a member of the Wehrmacht.
And, as I recall, not a fan of either Hitler or of the Gestapo Major Hochstetter.
My only point being that the person at the campaign screwed up and screwed up screwing up.
They fired and sentenced to watch Stalag 17 seven times straight.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 31, 2006 01:12 PM (wbQhK)
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Crowley will lose! Please Dems! I want more altered photos of US Marine uniforms - I love the Nazi subconscious message! Its a real winner with Mainstream America!
Now, what exactly is Crowley's claim to fame? Oh yeah! I remember! She coulda, woulda, shoulda saved America if it wasn't for those (who exactly?) that stopped her! And the fact her Wonder Woman outfit was at the dry cleaners.
Posted by: hondo at January 31, 2006 01:23 PM (3aakz)
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In her "apology" she readily admits that "This was a Nazi uniform and I didn't grasp that impact..." and then more gibberish about feelings, unaware of the difference caused by her actions and feelings. Unaware seems to be her platform, so since that fits with the current Demodummy mindset, she gets high marks for consistency.
Posted by: forest hunter at January 31, 2006 06:36 PM (Fq6zR)
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Klein! Hang on to that photo! The subliminal message is clear! US Marines = NAZIS. I don't give a damn how the Dems try to reinterpret this screwup for the electorate - it ain't gonna work - make it work for you!
Wow! Crowley really knows how to pick her staff - they sure know how to reachout to the heartland of America!
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Kos Kids Reaction to Failed Alito Filibuster
THIS is how it happened in Nazi Germany, Its over.
More.
UPDATE: I'm registering Independent tomorrow. You're welcome to join me.
Even more.
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I used to think that schadenfreude was beneath me, but I have accepted that sometimes, it's entirely appropriate. Mmmmmm... the sweet taste of leftard pain.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 31, 2006 09:39 AM (0yYS2)
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The descent into madness is never pretty.
Posted by: Oyster at January 31, 2006 10:17 AM (5pqct)
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For some reason(must be mental illness) the Kos Kids think they are the mainstream in America. Every time I confront them with the bold facts about them being out in la la land, they snap back that they represent the majority. Hmm...majority of whackos I suppose.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 31, 2006 10:31 AM (rUyw4)
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But it can be entertaining.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 31, 2006 10:32 AM (0yYS2)
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I suppose we'll have to go through another round of meaningless threats by the Leftists to move to....nope, can't go to Canada...France. If they would only follow through with their threats what a glorius day that would be!
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 31, 2006 10:35 AM (rUyw4)
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They should all just move to Iran, which seems to be their ideological homeland.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 31, 2006 11:14 AM (0yYS2)
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Its all funny actually - they honestly and deeply believe they are "Mainstream America"! What a winning strategy!
They won't snap out of it of course - instead they will soon lash out at Mainstream America calling them racists, sexists, homophobic, war-mongering bigots (to say the least!) and then .... this is the funny part .... ask for their support and vote in the next elections! You can't make this stuff up folks!
Posted by: hondo at January 31, 2006 12:58 PM (3aakz)
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I bet they're all working for Rove. Even if not though, they're doing his work for him.
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January 27, 2006
I was born a poor black child: The Rusty Shackleford Autobiography
An excerpt from my soon te be released autobiography:
My life as the son of a sharecropper was no picnic. In town there was always the worry that Boss Hogg and the powers that be would take some offense and confiscate what little we had to themselves under the perversity that was Jim Crow.
And home was no better. Emasculated by a system that drained by father of all that was manly dignity, he found his only solace was the bottle. And when my father drank, he was mean. Real mean.
Is it true? Does it really matter? It
sounds true.
And if Timothy P. Barrus, a white guy from Lansing, Michigan, can win awards for writing about growing up on the Navajo Reservation, why can't I shoot for the same? He's pretty much my new hero, anyhow. Except for the gay porn thing. Can't say that I know enough about that to make up a true sounding story.
Hat tip to Confederate Yankee for the e-mail.
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I understand your hard upbringing Rusty. I am the offspring of a secretive relationship between Aquaman and my mother, who at the time was the cafeteria lady at the Justice League HQ.
Posted by: Graeme at January 27, 2006 03:02 PM (HwEEo)
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I'm going to blog about this Indian-cum-gay-pron-author story when I get home tonight, and want a good title, so I figured I'd appropriate Rusty's comments via
Kelo.
So here's the question: can anyone come up with a better post title on this subject other than, "Prances with Wolves?"
I have faith in you. :-)
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at January 27, 2006 03:24 PM (g5Nba)
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Rusty, are you the brother of Namon, Steve Martin's character in "The Jerk"? But he ended up rich, so heh!
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 27, 2006 03:42 PM (rUyw4)
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There's a great comprehensive story in the LA Weekly:
http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=12468&Itemid=47
CY: I give you a lame one -- One Little Idiot
Posted by: Dusty at January 27, 2006 03:56 PM (8RfU1)
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It's so refreshing to hear that someone else had it tough. I'm currently putting the finishing touches on my own memoir. It's about the struggles my brother and I had growing up as incestuous lesbians trapped in men's bodies.
Are you listening Oprah?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at January 27, 2006 04:06 PM (RHG+K)
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Ward Churchill by any other name! Most people have no idea how common this is - and how it pisses of Native Americans so much - along with their inability to stop it.
I met the artist (I believe he called himself Whitecloud) in the early 80s in Colorado Springs, who made a fortune selling his "Native American" paintings + to the liberal chic crowd. He helped (ha ha) trigger that federal law designed to stop this - 'cept it doesn't cover literary works for some reason - go figure!
Rusty! You gotta know about the Asa Carter thing! Now that was a hoot - and a HUGH embarrassment for the lib/left multi-cultural crowd!
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:14 PM (3aakz)
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I was raised by a pack of feral chihuahuas.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 10:44 PM (0yYS2)
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Your supposed to make something up Maxie!
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 11:02 PM (3aakz)
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Confederate Yankee, I have a title for ya:
Sitting Bullsh*t
Posted by: Oyster at January 28, 2006 04:54 AM (YudAC)
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Oh, okay. They were
gay feral chihuahuas.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 28, 2006 09:46 AM (0yYS2)
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The galleys have come back from the publisher for MY memoir, which should be hitting the bookstores in a couple of weeks. It's about how I grew up as the poor son of a former USAAF officer, worked as a farmer to put myself through college, then went to war as a medal-winning (three Purple Hearts) SWIFT boat commander in Vietnam. I discuss in great detail my secret Christmas '68 trip to smuggle arms into Cambodia, made at the personal behest of President Nixon, which is seared - SEARED - into my memory. I also tell the truth about my heroic rescue of a drowning Green Beret officer while my boat was taking fire from hundreds of angry VC guerrillas, as well as my courageous efforts to fight for the rights and dignity of Vietnam vets when I came home. The last page and a half of my book is about my long career in the Senate and all the foreign leaders I confer with in the restaurants of NYC, DC, Boston, and Aspen.
Reserve your copy today!
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Should be more interesting the BILL CLINTONS boring book MY LIES
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Crack Dealer Hands Out Business Cards
Life imitating Chappelle.
Belch has the details:
He said police had heard for some time that Williams had been selling drugs in the area. “Then we heard that he was handing out business cards,” the officer said. “In the course of our investigation we were fortunate to come up with one, and we gave him a call.”
Kitchens said the business card had an image of what appeared to be an alarm clock being hit by a boxing glove and said: “For a quick hit on time call the boss.”
“When he answered, we agreed to buy some crack from him, we went up there, and we arrested him,” Kitchens said.
More here.
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Posted by: Oyster at January 27, 2006 11:53 AM (YudAC)
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He was set up by Karl Rove, no doubt.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 01:03 PM (0yYS2)
Posted by: thirdee at January 27, 2006 01:31 PM (Jpo9J)
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Dr. Rusty, thanks for the trackback!
Posted by: Belch at January 27, 2006 01:40 PM (c2P97)
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Hey improbulus Maximus Why do you keep insulting me. What the hell have I done to you in life. Who peed in your coffee. I've had to deal with assholes in School like you my entire life. First you insult my age. Then you say I live in my mother's basement. Then you call me a fucking leftard. I'm fucking tired of it. You want the truth. Fine, My Dad is a democrat. My mom is a republican. My sister is a democrat. I haven't decided what I am yet. Mostly because each side insults the other. My Dad was in the Marines and Army for 30 years. He was lucky not to be sent to Vietnam. I don't know you personally but it's because of people like you suicide is up. Apparently insulting you won't work, so I'll talk to you. I have to admit man. You are good at insulting me. I'll bet you were great as a high school bully. You should teach me some good insults some time. Finally, I'm not too sure about the war. We haven't found any weapons of mass destruction. However we did free Iraqis from a brutal dictator. I don't know what to say. If I say Bush made a mistake about WMDs, you'll call me a leftard. I can't speak my mind. I like Bush, that's no lie. I don't know who you are but damn you make my life suck. What's wrong with liberals. My family is full of liberals. There's nothing wrong with conservatives. Stop insulting me man. See you around.
Posted by: George Ramos at January 27, 2006 02:16 PM (5E0ex)
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By the way, I'm done posting in this blog. Maybe I'll post again one day but I can't handle it anymore. Improbulus Maximus, It's nice to know you served your country during the first gulf war but you are too much. You are just some fat hick living in Knoxville. On second thought sorry for my asinine comments. You won. All liberals must die. All liberals ruin the world. I give up. Have a nice life. Farewell.
Posted by: George Ramos at January 27, 2006 02:33 PM (5E0ex)
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I'm with thirdee. No doubt this poor, poor, man had to resort to drug dealing because of President Bush's failed education policies. Global warming also probably contributed to his misfortunate life choices.
Posted by: Graeme at January 27, 2006 02:51 PM (HwEEo)
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Don't feel bad, George. Anyone who disagrees with his nonsensical genocidal blatherings is considerd a "leftard." I mean, no is saying to give free passage to terror and terrorists, but apparently disagreeing with the universal killing of all Muslims is "gauche" in his books. Don't feel bad about having a sense of humanity. Just because he's no better than any of the terrorists doesn't mean your at fault.
Posted by: Venom at January 27, 2006 02:56 PM (dbxVM)
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Damn!
George snapped like a rubber band.
Posted by: dave at January 27, 2006 03:11 PM (CcXvt)
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Well it looks like my work here is done for the day.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 03:44 PM (0yYS2)
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By the way venom, I'll let you know the very minute I find someone who gives a flying rat's ass what you think.
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George Ramos
Calm down and relax - Maxie is Maxie - if he pisses you off - piss him off - give and take. Don't whine and get wimpy - your welcomed here - your commentary is read - is appreciated - and occassionally agreed with - so relax and toughen up your skin.
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:22 PM (3aakz)
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Oh George
I think Venom is hitting on you. Watch you butt, he is a leftard. The drop by - peek - drop a comment - runaway type.
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:27 PM (3aakz)
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George, stick around. You'll come to love Maxi even though you disagree with what he says. Perhaps you haven't met anyone quite like Maxi before, but you are young and you have a lifetime to meet and assimilate what you like and dislike in people. But don't give up. That is the worst thing you can do.
If you remember, you called me a racist one day when I said that Muslims were not a race. I could have gotten mad at you, but I knew you would change your mind after you had done some research, and if you hadn't changed your mind, well, you do have your right to your opinion. So stay and learn, don't leave. I believe you will be a better and stronger person at the end of this road.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 27, 2006 04:31 PM (rUyw4)
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Oh let the lad go. After he spends a few nights sleeping in a dumpster behind the bus station, and doing Lord knows what for food, he'll be more receptive to wisdom from his betters.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 08:31 PM (0yYS2)
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Maxie: You're pushing him to the dark side. Lighten up a bit.
Posted by: Oyster at January 28, 2006 05:47 AM (YudAC)
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Just an idiot crook, not a dumb crook this was an idiot crook.
Posted by: Andre at January 28, 2006 07:36 AM (bQ3vG)
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I didn't push him, I merely offered a differing opinon on WMD's and he called me an idiot, so I let gave him the black flag. If he wants to act like a stupid kid, then I'll treat him so.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 28, 2006 09:57 AM (0yYS2)
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George, he can push buttons, but you have to admit, he is an interesting read most of the time.
Take your beatin like the rest of us and move on. God forbid you and Max would be on the same page most of the time. If you are, it is not a good sign. He makes some good points around what I hope is a lot of hyperbole. He won't be convinced of anything unless he wants to. That does not make you wrong.
You may owe Howie an apology.
Now itÂ’s off to Outback Steakhouse for white trash Saturday with the family
Posted by: Brad at January 28, 2006 08:07 PM (BJYNn)
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Clueless Maxipad, the very fact you replied to me proves you "give a rat's ass" what I think. But hey, keep trying, tough guy.
Hondo, very clever. I guess you rely on the high schools for your insults?
Posted by: Venom at January 30, 2006 09:15 AM (dbxVM)
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Add his name into the rouster of the dumbists crinimals
Posted by: sandpiper at January 30, 2006 09:45 AM (A2P9P)
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January 24, 2006
Mexican Troops Violating U.S. Sovereignty?
Q: Where do Mexican Generals keep their armies?
A1: In their sleavies
A2: No, you dimwit, in our sleavies. In addition to constantly violating the border, it looks like they are helping smuggle drugs in too.
UPDATE BY SEE-DUBYA: Much more info in this Ontario (CA) Daily Bulletin article that made the rounds last week. There have been 216 documented incursions by the Mexican military since 1996.
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And what could possibly be wrong with that, Rusty?
Posted by: See-Dubya at January 24, 2006 03:12 PM (IDj0S)
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But their
our sleavies, that's what!
Posted by: Rusty at January 24, 2006 03:14 PM (JQjhA)
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Competition for the gringo/cartel dollars is heating up, some units now seem willing "to go the extra mile" in servicing their favored clients.
Posted by: john Ryan at January 24, 2006 03:19 PM (TcoRJ)
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Lets be honest - this is not the actions of the Mexican Govt - if they are military - then they're rogues and criminals within its ranks (which is not a shocker).
This is not good for Mexico - it makes them look like a 3rd rate banana republic. These guys are criminal gangs - if they assist in smuggling here, imagine what other criminal activity they engage in Mexico!
The biggest threat they pose is to Mexico itself.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 03:27 PM (3aakz)
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This is not good for Mexico - it makes them look like a 3rd rate banana republic.
Quack quack....
Posted by: Brian B at January 24, 2006 03:32 PM (rGfpg)
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So when did they stop smuggling tequila?
Posted by: Howie at January 24, 2006 03:58 PM (D3+20)
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Sorry hondo, but you're dead wrong. Not only is this old news to some of us, but it is well known that Mexican Generals and politicians directly control, and profit from, drug smuggling. The entire Mexican government is nothing but a criminal organization, and for some reason, our government is trying to pretend nothing is happening. It kinda makes me wonder who's getting a cut on this side of the border.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 04:02 PM (0yYS2)
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Actually, these incursions have been going on for quite some time. Reports from So. Texas and Arizona tell of Mexicans in military uniforms providing protection and riding shotgun for drug smugglers and illegal immigrants. The Mexican government is bound to be aware of what is going on, but to tell you the truth, both the drug smuggling and illegal crossings of the border are beneficial to the Mexican government. Both of these illegal activities provide Mexico with dollars, and prop up a government that might otherwise fail. Why do you think the Mexican government so forcibly opposes border security on the part of the US?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 24, 2006 04:03 PM (rUyw4)
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Don't doubt higher ups have knowledge/involvement. Mexican Govt is in sad shape - a never ending cycle of going nowhere on the richest continent on the planet. I'm just sympathetic for the average Mexican - if this is bad for us - its a nightmare for them.
Pity - there never was any real reason (other that their own failings) why Mexico never matched the achievements and status of the US and Canada.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 04:10 PM (3aakz)
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Only poor government and stupid economic policies kept Mexicans from succeeding. I know many Mexicans who have come to the US and become very successful, and great citizens. I truly feel sorry for the average Mexican who is forced to live in the present circumstances in Mexico.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 24, 2006 04:57 PM (rUyw4)
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Mexico used to be ruled by France and Spain, two nations which never even managed well at home, much less abroad. In fact, the only post-colonial nations that ever truly succeeded are the ones that the British had. Any nation which was ever ruled or even partly ruled by France or Spain during its formative years is a de facto basket case today.
The only hope for Mexico is that enough Mexicans will learn proper civics in
El Norte, and return home to eventually straighten things out. This should happen right about the time Osama bin Laden converts to Judaism I should say.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 07:51 PM (0yYS2)
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Gee, Maxi, you're confidence level is real high on a turnaround in Mexico. Lol!
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 24, 2006 07:54 PM (rUyw4)
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Well, we pessimists are rarely disappointed, but often pleasantly surprised. We must not forget that Americans have a long relationship with the ideals that are at the very heart of Western civilization, whereas the people of the rest of our hemisphere still mostly live in some state of post-colonialism, in which societies are stratified, and there is no hope for liberty for the masses. To make things worse, almost every other nation in our hemisphere, including Canada, is infected with the disease of Marxism, and so given these two factors, it will take much longer than anyone can imagine to spread Enlightenment ideals to every corner of the globe.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 08:14 PM (0yYS2)
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Why has the President let this go on for so long? Has he forgot that 19 of the 21 Fasists 911 attackers were illegal aliens?
Most if no all snuck in via Mexico in 2001. What is he waiting for? Another attack?
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January 19, 2006
The Al Qaeda "Truce"
Rusty and
Howie have already commented on the latest communique from Dr. Demento (or his stand in) but I thought I'd like to make a further observation about the lack of political acumen that this proposal suggests. It reveals someone who doesn't have the slightest idea how alliances and factions work within a democracy. The "truce proposal" makes the critical mistake of simply adopting all of the MOVEON/KOS talking points:
1. The US effort in Iraq is a "disaster" for the US, and only serves to antagonize the locals.
2. US troop morale is terrible, as exemplified by idiosyncratic and out-of-context evidence that runs counter to what the troops actually say in milblogs, during interviews, and in polls of military personnel. We (Al Qaeda) get stronger as you (the US and pro-democracy Arabs) get weaker. [Actually the evidence says the opposite, and the primary negative influence on troop morale appears to be the defeatist attitude and rhetoric of our own fifth column left.]
3. If the US leaves, abandoning its imperialistic ways, the turmoil in the Islamic world will eventually resolve itself. It's only our intervention that keeps things stirred up.
4. The Bush administration is lying to Americans, both about the condition of the war and about their own intentions. The majority of Americans now agree with this assessment and want to skedaddle. [Note: Since the polls no longer suggest this, the tape may well have been produced some time ago, as Howie, Rusty and a number of others suggest.]
5. The US has split its resources, allowing Al Qaeda to become stronger in Afghanistan as well as Iraq.
6. The primary beneficiaries of the US war in the Middle East are the Halliburtonesque war profiteers and the oil capitalists.
Even though he makes all these points without attribution to Moore, Galloway, or Zuniga the effect cannot be viewed as beneficial to the cause of our domestic masochists, because it makes the task of distinguishing their positions from those of the Islamofascists nearly impossible. The association delegitimizes them in ways that none of their political opponents could possibly manage on their own. This makes the following offer startlingly ironic:
We are a nation that Allah banned from lying and stabbing others in the back, hence both parties of the truce will enjoy stability and security to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, which were destroyed by war.
Without realizing it Dr. Demento has thrust a knife in back of his ally, making the idiotarians less, rather than more useful to him. Bad move. Not that he had any good moves left, mind you.
(Cross-posted to Demosophia)
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Heh. Truce, yeah, right. Maybe if Dhimmi Carter was still President.
Double heh.
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"1. The US effort in Iraq is a "disaster" for the US, and only serves to antagonize the locals."
I think the press has been trying to insinuate this, but they are helped greatly by the fact that bad news is simply more interesting to the public. If you run two Iraq articles on the front page, one about a marine pistol-whipping a wounded insurgent and the other about our engineers repairing Baghdad's electrical network, the former is going to make more of an impression even though it has far less significance
"2. US troop morale is terrible"
Civilians don't know what morale is, so you can never trust what the papers have to say on the subject. No one has offered evidence that morale in the military sense--willingness to perform their mission--is in a bad way. When our troops start refusing to patrol, that's a morale problem.
"3. If the US leaves, abandoning its imperialistic ways, the turmoil in the Islamic world will eventually resolve itself. It's only our intervention that keeps things stirred up."
That's another thing they try to insinuate. The notion that simply being there inspires them to shoot at us is sensible enough (after all, doesn't patrolling crime-ridden neighborhoods in the U.S. lead to cop killings?), but I think everyone's stopped short of saying that the Sunnis would decide to play nice if we left.
"4. The Bush administration is lying to Americans, both about the condition of the war and about their own intentions. The majority of Americans now agree with this assessment and want to skedaddle."
Governments generally are less than scrupulous in making a case for going to war. The WMD thing hasn't helped legitimize the present war, but it has sown more distrust among the press than with the public. If public support did not erode with time it would be the first time in U.S. history, but no one has shown that this effect is more pronounced in the present fight due to distrust of the president.
"5. The US has split its resources, allowing Al Qaeda to become stronger in Afghanistan as well as Iraq."
In point of fact we have split our resources, but that's not the same as saying that we don't have enough to go around. Saying the former implies the latter implies the latter if your audience isn't inclined to look for details like troop strengths and the fact that we're not using the same kinds of units in those two countries.
"6. The primary beneficiaries of the US war in the Middle East are the Halliburtonesque war profiteers and the oil capitalists."
Well, who else would benefit? Bath Iron Works benefitted from WW2 but they weren't profiteers. Papers have been throwing up Halliburton's lucritive deals because of its connection with Cheney, which looks crooked to a lot of people but I don't know of anyone outside of the fringe that has gone so far as to suggest that he engineered the war to enrich himself. Personally, I'm suspicious of a family that owns oil properties when it drives the price of crude through the roof (twice) but I have yet to see the mainstream call them on this.
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For those without Dr. Shackleford's extensive etymological knowledge:
HUDNA - Arabic word often translated as "cease-fire.- Historically used as a tactic aimed at allowing the party declaring the hudna to regroup while tricking an enemy into lowering its guard. When the hudna expires, the party that declared it is stronger and the enemy weaker. The term comes from the story of the Muslim conquest of Mecca. Instead of a rapid victory, Muhammad made a ten-year treaty with the Kuraysh tribe. In 628 AD, after only two years of the ten-year treaty, Muhammad and his forces concluded that the Kuraysh were too weak to resist. The Muslims broke the treaty and took over all of Mecca without opposition. --
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This is almost certainly Al Qaeda's intent, but there isn't going to be any cease fire, at least from our side. They're welcome to stop shooting, of course. That way we can establish a democratic Middle East more or less unimpeded. Heh.
Posted by: Demosophist at January 19, 2006 03:23 PM (p8Arr)
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Shannon made some good points, but this one kind of rubbed me the wrong way:
"6. The primary beneficiaries of the US war in the Middle East are the Halliburtonesque war profiteers and the oil capitalists."
Well, who else would benefit?
It's more like "Who wouldn't benefit?" The two big losers, it seems to me, are the western marxisant left and extant totalitarian movements like Al Qaeda and the Bathists. Just about everyone else benefits, and if you believe Wretchard's "third conjecture" Islam itself is saved from extinction.
But of course I know you meant in direct economic terms. Even there, though, entrepreneurial activity in the Arab world is probably benefitted and the market nexus there will almost certainly expand. It's actually hard to think of anyone who will lose other than those who lose their lives in the struggle (and better the enemy than us). In the long run even the Sunni Triangle will benefit.
Posted by: Demosophist at January 19, 2006 03:34 PM (ZgrzI)
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This is very true, Demosophist. What I wonder is if it even occurred to OBL that since this has all begun that any of us might familiarize ourselves with the Koran and Muslim history and with that knowledge realize that he is full of sh*t. I know I've learned more about it than I ever expected to. Anyone who has read anything about Islam, pre-9/11, has seen a stark difference between what information was available then and what's available now. I have.
Posted by: Oyster at January 19, 2006 03:47 PM (osKlJ)
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I think most contracts in WWII were cost plus. I remember that during the Vietnam conflict the Congress voted in a windfall profits tax. Also Shannon I do not think the American public's support eroded during the last declared war, WWII. When the polls are split 50-50 it is difficult to really prosecute any war, except perhaps a civil war. lol
Posted by: john Ryan at January 19, 2006 03:57 PM (TcoRJ)
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Regarding the evidence to support the invasion of Iraq, there were basically two kinds of people; those who needed little or no convincing, and those who were against it no matter what the evidence. The former want victory at any price because we know the consequences of defeat, and the latter now want defeat at any price, because they can't stand the thought of the consequences of winning, i.e. a stronger American presence and legitimacy in the world. Liberals are nothing but traitors to humanity because they're willing to sacrifice the freedom of the entire world as long as it means the defeat of America and George W. Bush. They are idiots and should all be shot.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 19, 2006 04:23 PM (0yYS2)
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Max:
Liberals are nothing but traitors to humanity because they're willing to sacrifice the freedom of the entire world as long as it means the defeat of America and George W. Bush. They are idiots and should all be shot.
Well, in general you don't shoot idiots; you shoot criminals. I mean, if you shoot anyone. I actually think they're crazy rather that idiotic, and they're chiefly crazy because we haven't given them a task to perform, or a role to play. I have a hunch that the next US president will remedy that to some degree, if it's who I think it will be.
Idle hands are the Devil's playground.
Posted by: Demosophist at January 19, 2006 06:30 PM (BxFC9)
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Ugh, Demosophist, the last time the hands of the liberals got busy they tried to do everything from nationalizing the health care system to total disarmament of the citizenry. I like their sick little minds blogging and pontificating about everything that is wrong in Iraq. I will be very happy for them to continue doing this while they are outside looking in.
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January 18, 2006
The ghost of Kenny voting in Tennessee
Oh my G*d, they killed Kenny. And they let him vote.
In Tennessee. You bastards!
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Posted by: GOP and College at January 18, 2006 03:15 PM (PtOGr)
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Voter fraud of this and many other types is being perpetuated in a number of cities and states across the nation. The state of Wisconsin was stolen by these people in the last election, and probably Minnesota, too.
And the governors office in Washington state was also stolen by a number of felons who voted illegally. The Republicans are in charge at the WH and the Congress, and if they don't wake up and require identification before someone can vote they will find themselves out of a job.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 18, 2006 04:10 PM (rUyw4)
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Joe is right.
In Washington, the King County dept of elections is staffed and lead by a bunch of Socialists. ItÂ’s like having the regulars at Daily Kos count the ballots each election.
In the last Governors race the GOP won by a slim margin. He won the first and 2nd recounts. Prior to the 3rd recount, King CO director of elections Dean Logan magically found hundreds of uncounted ballots and following the 3rd recount, the democrat won by 120 votes. One shocking revelation during the GOP challenge to this fraud was that election workers in King County can print any number of blank ballots and there is no system in place to prevent it or monitor how many blank ballots have been printed.
This makes finding hundreds of ballots after 2 recounts absolutely unacceptable.
It came to light that over 2000 “provisional ballots” were fed into the accu vote machines and counted. These ballots were not cast by registered voters and it is illegal to count them without due process.
In this same election over 50,000 votes were illegally “enhanced” by King county elections workers despite a memo issued by the Sec. of State that this was also illegal.
Think of it, the left wing staff of the department of elections going through over 50,000 ballots and “enhancing” the voter’s intent.
In the 2000 US Senate election, GOP Slade Gorton won a narrow victory. After a mandatory recount, democrat Cantwell was declared the winner by fewer than 2000 votes. King county election workers also counted “provisional” votes and illegally enhanced ballots.
Liberal criminals in Metro Seattle are disenfranchising the rest of the State. This is all done with the blessing of the Seattle times and PI. Only blogs are interested in investigating election fraud.
IÂ’m sure this is SOP in most liberal metro areas of this country.
Posted by: Brad at January 18, 2006 04:44 PM (3OPZt)
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Brad, in Washinghanistan there were no stones "left" unturned in a search for illegal ballots. And when they could not find enough illegal votes to swing the election, then the campaign workers and people in charge manufactured ballots to steal an election.
And the judge in the case to overturn the election when confronted with the evidence of wrongdoing pulled an ostridge and declared the election legal. Scary, folks, because the other liberal metro areas have representatives in Seattlestan as we speak learning how steal an election.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 18, 2006 04:58 PM (rUyw4)
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Joe,
During the GovernorÂ’s election trial in Wenatchee, WA the dems had the brass balls to bring forth several felons who had illegally voted in the election. These felons told the judge they had voted for GOP Dino Rossi. Despite evidence of massive fraud, the Judge refused to overturn the election or order a new oneÂ….BUT in his ruling, he actually took these votes away from the GOP side based on the word of felons who admitted they voted illegally.
GET THIS, BECAUSE ITÂ’S UNBELIEVABLE. THE DEMS GET FELONS TO VOTE ILLEGALLY. THE DEMS BRING THESE FELONS INTO COURT AND TESTIFY THEY VOTED GOP. THE JUDGE THEN TAKES THESE VOTES AWAY FROM THE GOP. THIS ALLOWS LYING FELONS WHO ADMITTED THEY VOTED ILLEGALLY TO ACTUALLY VOTE ONCE FOR THE DEM CANADATE AND ALSO PULL A VOTE OFF THE GOP TOTAL. Sorry I put this in caps, but IÂ’m still in awe of the dems for having the stones to pull this off.
US Attorney come and save us!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Brad at January 18, 2006 05:30 PM (3OPZt)
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Washington state needs an infusion of volunteers from other parts of the country to come into King County as election observers. It is being done by the Dems in Florida and other states, and I think some Republicans also observed in Ohio and a couple of other states.
Folks, this should be the number one issue for 2006 but it is flying under the radar. There are a number of criminal cases playing out right now in parts of the country where Dems who have committed voter fraud are on trial. The MSM is ignoring all of them.
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Memphis is probably the second most corrupt city in America, and certainly the most corrupt one in Tennessee. Of course the fact that it's mostly black and democratic has
nothing whatsoever to do with that.
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January 13, 2006
Ted Kennedy is Gay
Seriously
*. Kevin McCullogh gets censored for suggesting
Kennedy deserves a beating. Buckley F. Williams has the
top nine statements that would make Ted cry.
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Ted Kennedy needs to be locked in a car and thown off a bridge into a cold icy river.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 13, 2006 10:46 AM (8e/V4)
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What a hideous mental image; definitely 'bad gay'.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at January 13, 2006 10:54 AM (RHG+K)
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It has taken me many years to have the courage to say this...many years of couch time weeping to Doctor Bendermind about re-pressed memories...
Ted Kennedy touched me where my bathing suit covers!
There. I said it. (sniff) (dab dab dab)
It all happened years ago at Barney Franks house. I was there to check coats for a special party Mr. Frank's house boy Ki Ki was having for some of Mr. Franks friends.
Before I knew it, Mr. Kennedy....Touched me. OHHH it was Terrible. OoOOooOOoohHHHhhhh!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at January 13, 2006 11:47 AM (5ceWd)
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What a hideous mental image; definitely 'bad gay'.
Not just bad gay, but gay so bad, even gays who think bad gay is good gay call it 'bad gay'.
Posted by: Brian B at January 13, 2006 03:16 PM (rGfpg)
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Ted Kennedy Gay??? Is that why he murdered Mary Jo?. Maybe, her perfume smelled better causing Kennedy to freak out and run off the road in a jealous rage.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 13, 2006 08:22 PM (AWtJU)
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Its way past time that old fossel was retired he has been in too damn long and is nothing but a big mouth and a idiot its time for ted kennedy to call it a day and just resign
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January 12, 2006
January 08, 2006
Abramoff Questions: What the hell is the "scandal" I keep hearing about?
I don't get the Abramoff "scandall". Seriously.
I've been on vacation for a few weeks, so the only news I've been paying attention to is a bit here and there from TV and radio. Because of this, I'm assuming that I'm about as informed as the average American on the Abramoff scandal right now. That is, I know that there is this guy named Jack Abramoff, that he has been indicted for some reason or another, that he has admitted to guilt, and that he has been a major contributor to the Republican party and a minor contributor to the Democratic party.
From this, the MSM has been running story after story raising 'questions' about those associated with Abramoff. The 'questions' mainly revolve around those who received campaign contributions from Abramoff and his Native American backers. The stories seem to focus on the 'fall out' from the Abramoff scandal rather than the scandal itself. In fact, I know next to nothing about the scandal itself, but I know an awful lot about the 'fall out' from it.
Can somebody please refer me to a good story that will explain the actual crimes committed rather than the 'fall out' from the crimes? I've been way out of the loop, so an MSM story or a blog post would be good. Seriously, I haven't seen a single news story on TV or heard one on the radio that actually explains what crimes Abramoff committed. None.
Editors at MSM outlets have been derelict in their duties--or worse. Imagine if CNN had done weeks and weeks of stories on the "fall out" from the 9/11 attacks, but ran nothing on the attacks themselves. Tonight on Anderson Cooper 360, a roundtable discussion on the Bush Administration's reaction to the al Qaeda attacks. What does this mean to the electoral prospects of the Republican Party?
The only thing I know about the Abramoff case is that he seems to have pled guilty to crimes that are in no way connected with illegal campaign contributions. I only know that because the only substantive discussion of the actual crimes came in a 15 second blurb by Tom DeLay in which he mentioned this. Of course, the news story on Fox in which I saw the bulrb wasn't about the substance of what DeLay mentioned, but about whether or not DeLay would be forced to step down because he had taken free trips paid by Abramoff. DeLay claimed that Abramoff had pled guilty to some scam completely unrelated to campaign finance. Is this tru?
If Abramoff's crimes were unrelated to illegal campaign finance contributions, then what, exactly, is the scandal? Seriously? Is this a simple guilt-by-association type of scandal? So large campaign-donors that turns out to be fellons taints all of those who they give money to? If so, I wonder if Martha Stewart gave money to any politician?
There seems to be some kind of 'scandal' going on here, but for the likes of me I don't seem to see one. The only scandal I see here is poor reporting, coupled with overblown headlines, poured on top of shallow interviews with politicians masquerading as 'tough questions'. I don't get it.
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I'm going to spend the afternoon going through e-mail and checking out recent blog posts here and elsewhere. I'll addend this post as I find interersting or relevant articles/posts.
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Well, it turns out that I get a Comment Submission Error and the Alterne+ dot org site with the summary is questionable. I have tried to post this message several times but have been rejected. Try searching the .org site for ...story/29827.... I hope this helps you.
Posted by: Dale at January 08, 2006 05:52 PM (Dujiz)
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Well, he admitted to BRIBING the Chairman of the House Administration Committee, Bob Ney (Republican-Ohio).
There's a lot more that's going to come out--he's now a cooperating witness.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I read the initial indictment about SunCruz and couldn't detect the underlying crime. Mail and Wire fraud are nebulous crimes. The actual transmissions don't even have to be fraudulent.
The Information about the Indian Casino deal seems to be, in part, about Abramoff overcharging the tribe. Given the amount of money that the tribes saved--or made--as a result of Abramoff, I don't see a crime.
Geek, where in the plea deal does it say he admitted to bribing Ney? http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/abramoff/abr10406plea.pdf
The job of a lobbyist is to gain influence with legislators and to persuade them that their client's position is the right one. I don't see how it can be proved that Ney was bribed.
I also don't trust Federal Prosecutors.
Posted by: Sue Bob at January 08, 2006 07:13 PM (cskP4)
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Please don't quote me, but I seem to remember hearing something about the creation of fake Corporations, and using them for fraudulent billing.
Posted by: dave at January 08, 2006 08:11 PM (CcXvt)
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I guess Libs are under the impression this makes any difference.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 08, 2006 08:24 PM (8e/V4)
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Corruption seems to be the new cornerstone of the Republican Party. Abramoff is hardly the only corrupt republican to get caught or caught up in corruption/ethics scandals, or investigations lately - google - cunningham, pombo, ney, noe, scanlon, delay, doolittle, rove, libby, this list could go on for pages and it will.
Tha's the Republican Culture of Corruption and Cronyism.
Posted by: steve at January 08, 2006 08:57 PM (6hT/C)
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Hope you get up to speed soon. It's breathtaking. I've been blogging Abramoff for over a year now. Where've you been?
Check out Mohammad Atta being on Abramoff's Sun Cruz gambling boat, and check out the murder of Abramoff's partner, Gus Boulis. For sure the Florida prosecutor will be questioning Abramoff and the other surviving partner Kidan soon.
Posted by: Maezeppa at January 08, 2006 09:15 PM (AsrJM)
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Three federal counts: Conspiracy, tax evasion and mail fraud stemming from Capitol Hill influence peddling on behalf of Indian gaming clients.
Posted by: Drew at January 08, 2006 10:53 PM (oxMjD)
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I saw the McLaughlin Report this morning and it convinced me that there's something pretty rotten here. For one thing, there was apparently a murder involving people that Abramoff had hired to protect from from the person murdered. Maybe there's an explanation, but it looks dark indeed.
But more to the point, the speed with which the Republican leadership has managed to produce this level of corruption is staggering, since it took the Dems roughly 50 years to achieve the same level of corruption. My point isn't that Republicans are more vulnerable to corruption, but that something is seriously wrong with "the system." I have no doubt that Dems will succumb just as quickly (or even more quickly) if they come to power. It may simply be that Qutb was right, that there's a "horrible schizophrenia" at the core of western liberalism. It may also be that we can overcome it. (I think we can.) But so far, we haven't even begun.
The "ownership society" is, I think, the "way out." But someone had better start taking that seriously pretty soon, or we're really screwed. I feel almost transcendentally angry, and it's not about Michael Moore. Abramoff was one of the people that I'd have trusted implicitly. I was simply gullible, and kind of stupid. His ilk ought never to have been trusted.
Posted by: Demosophist at January 08, 2006 11:42 PM (iObV6)
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So, do the Indians get their money back or what? How much money are we talking about here?
With all this influence peddlin' - did the Indians get their money's worth? - or did they simply get screwed again?
Posted by: hondo at January 09, 2006 12:05 AM (3aakz)
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indeed, that is why I said not to quote me
I was half listening while reading, and I thought they had said something in regards to him setting up Corporations, and using those Corporations to bill clients for services that he did not perform [fake billing?].
My bad.
Posted by: dave at January 09, 2006 12:15 AM (CcXvt)
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It appears in the plea agreement that he only pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud and wire fraud. That's not the same thing as being convicted of influence peddling.
The Government hasn't proven bribery or cheating the Indians and they have dismissed all such charges. Wire and mail fraud are pretty malleable charges. The actual transmissions don't actually have to be fraudulant. They just have to be tied to transactions the government says are fraudulent. This is another instance of a man being convicted (albeit through a plea) without the underlying crime being proved.
Posted by: Sue Bob at January 09, 2006 07:49 AM (cskP4)
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Demophist,
What I read in the Weekly Standard article I linked above, was that at a meeting between Kidan and Boulis (Abramoff was not there), Boulis became angry and allegedly stabbed Kidan in the neck with a pen or pencil. Kidan is the person who hired people to protect him from Boulis, not Abramoff.
I'm just trying to parse through all this to see exactly what Abramoff is actually tied to. The MSM is terrible at that.
Posted by: Sue Bob at January 09, 2006 08:42 AM (cskP4)
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US News & World Report had an informing article on this late last year. Not sure of the exact date but I honestly hadn't heard of any of it till I read their article. Personally I tired of the Dems complaining when you look at their rolls of who took money and how much. Both sides are dirty, period. I'm all for term limits, no long term benefits, and make it where they have to come home and go to work thru the year. It would stream-line the gov't, save tons of money and cut out much of the corruption that is rampant today with the current system.
Posted by: Debby at January 09, 2006 08:43 AM (DbBZu)
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The scandal is that every sonofabitch in Congress is bought and paid for, regardless of party affiliation, and always have been, always will be. It's really a shame that the plane that crashed in Shanksville didn't make it to the Capitol building, and find every lowlife crapweasel Congrescritter inside; the damned jihadis trying to do us a favor by taking out Congress, though they thought they were hurting us. Just think, no more Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry, et al. They almost saved us that day, but the passengers stopped them in an act of bravery that in retrospect was misguided.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 09:32 AM (0yYS2)
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Doh! Typo alert:
"the damned jihadis trying to do us a favor" should read
"the damned jihadis tried to do us a favor"
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 10:25 AM (0yYS2)
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Reflections on a Policy Void
It used to be that it took over 50 years in power for one of the major political parties to become so corrupt that they had to be replaced, and during that time the opposition was compelled to actually learn something of benefit to the culture in order to deserve the mantle. But the Abramoff scandal comes barely ten years after the Republicans finally achieved power in Congress... and even that wasn't absolute. Even as late as 2000 the Democrats were competitive, and even now Democrats have a slight edge in party registration. Yet, the Republicans have managed to manifest one of the most profound corruption scandals in US history and the democrats will have to re-assume control of congress without having introduced a single new idea in 50 years, and during an era in which most Americans simply don't trust them (with good reason) with the security of the nation.
A year ago I would have said that the Democrats were on the verge of extinction as a party, and that by 2008 the future would involve a single-party "unity" government that would eventually spilt into two competing factions, both of Republican origin. Moreover, I don't regard the failure of the Republicans as a misreading of history. They have failed. As far as the economy is concerned they've simply demurred, barely even bothering to pay lip service to some good ideas (originally introduced by a Democrat, Patrick Moynihan). There really is no such thing as the "ownership society" you know, nor is there likely to be within our lifetime. And not only have they done nothing to diminish the deficit, they've done nothing to so much as recognize the primary challenge. For all the good they've done, they might as well have been Democrats.
While it's true that most of the new ideas in governance have come from Republican think tanks, they haven't even addressed the central issue: the comparative nonproductivity of US labor compared to a combination of technological capital and offshore labor. So we now have a situation, in the midst of what appears to be a genuine war (and not, as Michael Moore would have us believe, a "war mirage") where we'll be compelled to switch from one barely competent party, to another decidedly incompetent party, simply because we have no other options. The "engine of competitiveness" has simply not worked and both parties are out-to-lunch. We are sorely bereft of leaders, and of ideas... with an implacable enemy looking down our throats, cocked and ready. Anyone inclined to rejoice had better think again. And there's really no reason to believe we're at the bottom of the curve, either. While the Chinese are scaling up their human potential, we're scaling down. While they're investing we're divesting.
I, for one, am unsure. It's hard for me to even imagine a place for myself, let alone a bright future. I have some ideas, but haven't sold any, let alone myself. Like many in my generation I'm grievously underemployed, and my impression of the thirty-something generation that's currently ready to assume power is that they're impressed by superficial appearance but have not a clue what "substance" means. They're even more vain and distracted than my own generation, if that's possible. They amount to the equivalent of what R.B. Fuller once described as "Industrial Designers" who, if they were tasked with building a ship, would produce a sinking raft of toilet plumbing and wallpaper designs floating down the Hudson to the sea. For the most part they're rather mean-spirited and ignorant brats who will be compelled to learn 40 years of life in 10 just to survive, and who have been handicapped with an unserious attitude about serious things. They'll end up killing most of us before our time.
But you know, I don't really mean that... I'm just saying it for dramatic effect.
Sure I am.
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The deficit has been substancially reduced. Check it out
Posted by: Arthur Teel at January 09, 2006 06:48 AM (ZEMUF)
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Demosophist. I see this more as a blessing in disguise. The Republican Party gets a good house cleaning, which it desperately needed, while the Democrats flaunt their smug superiority and do nothing about the corruption in their own party. Some will get swept up in the dust pan over this, but the media will see to it that the focus is elsewhere. I don't care how many Republicans they arrest over this, it will never make me vote for a Dem
just because of it. The corrupt Republicans got fair warning and did not heed it. How long ago did they get the Democrat handbook which said, "Indict, indict, indict" ?
Posted by: Oyster at January 09, 2006 07:01 AM (YudAC)
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I hope you're right Oyster, but I think this is just an occasional rebalancing of which crooks are in charge. All of Congress should be taken out and shot for treason, dereliction, and stupidity.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 09:34 AM (0yYS2)
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I kind of agree with you, Maxie. However, I may be a little naive in thinking there are still a few good ones.
While the Democrats and the media masturbate over the Abramoff scandal the Aspen Institute is still flying the likes of Barbara Boxer (and a glut of other Democrats) to every exotic destination her little heart desires in pursuit of promoting a socialist utopia under the guise of "education".
Posted by: Oyster at January 09, 2006 09:58 AM (osKlJ)
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There may be a few good ones, but why aren't they screaming about the corruption? The silence is deafening. If we start splitting hairs, then it won't make a good example. I would love to see the Army and Marines surround the Capitol, march the scum out in handcuffs, and execute them on the steps. This country needs a real revolution, with no quarter for those who betray it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 09, 2006 10:32 AM (0yYS2)
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January 03, 2006
Bad Moon On The Risen
James Risen, the
New York Times reporter who willfully damaged national security interests by reporting on NSA intercepts of al Qaeda cellphone and email communications with American citizens, has released his new book to take financial advantage of the furor surrounding the NYT story. Here's how
Time describes the book,
State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration:
Risen's chief target is the CIA, where, he argues, institutional dysfunction and feckless leadership after 9/11 led to intelligence breakdowns that continue to haunt the U.S. Though much of State of War covers ground that is broadly familiar, the book is punctuated with a wealth of previously unreported tidbits about covert meetings, aborted CIA operations and Oval Office outbursts. The result is a brisk, if dispiriting, chronicle of how, since 9/11, the "most covert tools of national-security policy have been misused."
Here's a newflash for Risen, who shouldn't need to have it pointed out: there have been no, zero, nada, zilch attacks on the US since 9/11. That, in and of itself, invalidates the thesis of Risen's potboiler.
It's almost possible to respect a person who betrays this country because he is motivated by ideology. At least that can indicate noble intent, if flawed reasoning. But who can have any respect for someone who puts his countrymen at risk for the sake of personal enrichment?
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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Since when did truth and reason work with Democrats -- or the Old Media?
Posted by: bill at January 03, 2006 02:43 PM (7evkT)
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Timeline is important - CIA did have "problems" coming out of '90s and it takes a bit to straighten out.
But key is ALL after 9/11 immediately - ALL targeting AQ and islamic friends and associates (and not deviating! - this is important!) ...
BULK of OPS up front (9/12 -'04) - current OPS clearly implied by all as scaled back ... AND ONGOING! (DON'T BACK DOWN BUSH! LET THEM CALL YOUR HAND (IN PUBLIC!)
If all that holds - lib/left goes BDS - EVERYBODY else goes "Yeah! So what!"
Terror free at home is NOT by luck - and everyone KNOWS that (though some attempt (poorly) to imply otherwise ... "devil's in the details" and the "details (successes) are currently classified ...
... unless "forced" out (in '06)? I still believe there is an element of "planting" involved here ...
hondo would do it - but I'm a devious smart MoFu - and and libs all know Bush/Cheney/Rove & Co. are morons - right?
Big problems for DEM/lib/left - tie-in with Iraq minimal to non-existant ... program totally AQ, 9/11 aftermath & WOT!
Predominate words put out by opposition - SPYING ON US RESIDENTS! CITIZENS used sparingly and generic .. this is No accident!
Does our resident Dem/libs think non-conservative middle Americans are "going to give a flying fuck" the NSA is checking on "Momar & his brother Salad running that laundromat in Cleveland" in the aftermath of 9/11?
I don't think so!
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 03:53 PM (3aakz)
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The book claims that the CIA knew that there were no WMDS but decided to ignore the fact and allow the administration to continue a logic that had no validity in reality. Too mnay facts are coming out about republican criminality...Abramoff is about to destroy the "republican revolution" to save his ass from years behind bars. Americans are waking up real fast to the corruption of the current administration and congress. Bush support from military drops to 54%, Murtha says he wouldnt join the army today, BUsh found to be illegally spying on US citizens, Delay and Frsit in legal troubles....man you guys are bumming come 06...do you smell impeachment too?
ernie
Posted by: ernie at January 03, 2006 04:16 PM (X4Dyg)
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No ice cream for you ernie!
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 04:17 PM (3aakz)
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And hondo, your racism blinds you, as Constitution supporting American citizens we deny the US executive the right to arbitrarily and illegally spy on ALL US citizens, including Muslims and folks of Abrab descent. The Constitution does not just guarantee rights for WASPY good toby keith listening republican texans.
freedom and liberty, courage...over fearful needs for safety from a despot...ALWAYS!
ernie
Posted by: ernie at January 03, 2006 04:21 PM (X4Dyg)
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HA! NO SOUP FOR YOU TOO!
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 04:28 PM (3aakz)
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BUT A SONG ...
Who's your daddy, who's your baby?
Who's your buddy, who's your friend?
And who's the one guy that you come runnin' to
When your lovelife starts tumblin?
I got the money if you got the honey
Lets cut a deal lets make a plan
Who's your daddy, who's your baby?
Who's your buddy, who's your man?
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 04:43 PM (3aakz)
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"freedom, liberty and courage...."
ernie talking about courage? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh that's rich.
Posted by: Graeme at January 03, 2006 04:55 PM (cumGr)
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good responses, i take it you agree with my points. this abramoff squealing thing should get real interesting. ANyone wanna take any guesses how many republican/democrat politicans go down in this?
ernie
Posted by: ernie at January 03, 2006 05:16 PM (X4Dyg)
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Wanna put your money where your big mouth is, ernie boy? Boy, where's your money?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 03, 2006 05:20 PM (rUyw4)
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 05:22 PM (3aakz)
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Please don't give him ice cream!
Posted by: hondo at January 03, 2006 05:24 PM (3aakz)
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What are the chances that Risen will be jailed in an attempt to find out his sources? Probably wouldn't work as well with Risen because he will be receiving more money the more publicity he can get. As he sits in jail, he would be counting his money. How long could he be kept in jail for refusing to testify before a grand jury? Just for the life of the grand jury?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 03, 2006 05:50 PM (rUyw4)
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BUsh found to be illegally spying on US citizens,
As usual Ernie misses the mark by about a hundred miles, as the targets have not been identified, only that the recipients were inside the United States, which obviously could encompass people inside the U.S on Work/University visa, tourist visas or even people here illegally, not to worry Ernie wants to give them all the rights of citizenship so he can stick it to Bush! (BDS)
Did your mom feed you paint chip sandwiches for lunch Ernie?
Posted by: dave at January 03, 2006 06:42 PM (CcXvt)
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"Abramoff"
lil ernie,
I bet you think they're still going to indict "Rove" too. bwahaha! keep dreaming. Abramoff will turn out to be just another one of many non-scandals you Libs keep working yourself up for. You're a pathetic sight.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 03, 2006 07:02 PM (8e/V4)
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Risen sounds like he might be a war profiteer in the mode of Richard Clarke. Oh, well. At least we know what the news peg is going to be for the next couple weeks.
Posted by: Toby Petzold at January 03, 2006 08:10 PM (QUWO/)
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"Richard Clarke"
yup. The timing of all these leaks is always so conducive to their book sales. Disgusting. War profiteers sums it up well.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 03, 2006 10:28 PM (8e/V4)
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Hypothetically, would it be considered inciting to violence to state that anyone who knowingly and willfully damages the war effort and national security is a traitor and should be murdered in the street by a couple of guys in ski masks with ball bats? Hypothetically, of course...
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 04, 2006 09:13 AM (0yYS2)
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The book claims that the CIA knew that there were no WMDS but decided to ignore the fact and allow the administration to continue a logic that had no validity in reality.
OK, let's take that step by step. "The book claims" and so you're going to automatically believe it? Without a little more evidence to support it, I'll have to assume you accept that claim simply because it reinforces your own, already established view of things.
I'm not even going to address the "No WMD'S" blather, it's rather tired by this point, and has been so well answered by so many others.
But let's, for the sake of argument, pretend that the claim has even a sliver of validity. If the CIA failed to correct an assumption made by the administration, how does that translate to a fault on the part of the administration? Rather, it would be a stinging indictment of the CIA, and would raise serious questions (ones that are already being asked) as to why the CIA would intentionally sabotage the presidency.
Too mnay facts are coming out about republican criminality...Abramoff is about to destroy the "republican revolution" to save his ass from years behind bars.
I didn't know Harry Reid had changed parties. The fact is, there are dirty politicians on both sides of the political divide. So why did you bring it up? It has nothing to do with the Risen Book (making it a non sequitur), and it has nothing to do with the validity of any belief held by conservatives (making it an ad hominem). Two fallacies for the price of one!
do you smell impeachment too?
No, I just smell the same tired bullshit being spewed by your side that has been around since 2000.
Posted by: Brian B at January 04, 2006 10:05 AM (rGfpg)
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From CNN [can't paste link]
"CIA Director of Public Affairs Jennifer Millerwise Dyke issued this statement Tuesday about Risen's book:
"Readers deserve to know that every chapter of 'State of War' contains serious inaccuracies. The author's reliance on anonymous sources begs the reader to trust that these are knowledgeable people. As this book demonstrates, anonymous sources are often unreliable.
"It is most alarming that the author discloses information that he believes to be ongoing intelligence operations, including actions as critical as stopping dangerous nations from acquiring nuclear weapons. Setting aside whether what he wrote is accurate or inaccurate, it demonstrates an unfathomable and sad disregard for U.S. national security and those who take life-threatening risks to ensure it.""
Posted by: Oyster at January 04, 2006 10:29 AM (osKlJ)
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