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Might be dangerous for US reputation if you sent the propaganda-pumped-up bloodthirsty patriot 20percenters to fight, the man hunt might turn into an ethnic cleansing...
which would not necessarily be a bad thing.
Posted by: A fatwad Finn at May 29, 2005 12:43 PM (lGolT)
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Might be dangerous for US reputation if you sent the propaganda-pumped-up bloodthirsty patriot 20percenters to fight, the man hunt might turn into an ethnic cleansing... which would not necessarily be a bad thing.
Someday you'll have to tell me what the deuce you're talking about.
* WWII: US population fully engaged. Treated, and acting like, like adults.
* WoT: US population basically diddling themselves. Treated, and to a certain extent acting like, spoiled adolescents.
That's the primary reason the left hasn't simply been shown thrown out the door.
Posted by: Demosophist at May 29, 2005 04:01 PM (d0CtA)
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"Might be dangerous for US reputation if you sent the propaganda-pumped-up bloodthirsty patriot 20percenters to fight, the man hunt might turn into an ethnic cleansing... which would not necessarily be a bad thing."
Sounds like someone has taken one too many trips up the down staircase.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 29, 2005 04:57 PM (0yYS2)
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"The take of people like James Fallows, and Andrew Bacevich is that we're vastly over-mobilized in the current war."
right after 9/11 they kept telling us to return to our shopping.
Posted by: actus at May 29, 2005 05:51 PM (Ygl+x)
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DITTO!!!
See my two cents over at Jihad-Watch:
STRATEGIC THINKING AKA COMMON SENSE
The key phrase in this reassessment is strategic thinking or in less lofty terms common sense. To win any war, you must know who the enemy is and the ideology that drives it.
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Posted by: Ron Wright at May 30, 2005 12:37 AM (W03sz)
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Banned yet? No? Darn... oh well, wonder what the deuce I was talking about. Had some idea for the comment, now it has passed, since sort of hung over. Impro, no, I haven't had any trips of that sort and that's a good thing.
Posted by: A fatwad Finn at May 30, 2005 02:37 AM (cWMi4)
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Oh yeah:
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php
Posted by: A fatwad Finn at May 30, 2005 03:05 AM (cWMi4)
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right after 9/11 they kept telling us to return to our shopping.
So did Bush.
Posted by: mantis at May 30, 2005 03:15 AM (FhKVq)
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11th of September 2001... it could be possible that the Russians organized it, so they would get some help fighting Muslims in Tsetsenia and around former CCCP-parts along their southern border, like Afganistan and Georgia. (not your Georgia, but the CCCP-country that had some guy throw a dud grenade
(such a devastating terrorist attack and they use faulty bombs... losers) at Bush a week or two ago)
Posted by: A fatwad Finn at May 30, 2005 05:12 AM (cWMi4)
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Why is it so many people keep looking for the "real" conspirators of 9/11 when Al Qaeda, specifically OBL, has taken credit for it, and all evidence points toward the same? Honestly, I think the world has gone stupid with conspiracy theories. Well, if the people want conspiracy theories, I've got one for them: Neither party wants to really win the war on terror because it allows the government unprecedented power. It's important to keep providing victories in order to keep the mob placated, but if we were to win totally, which we could do easily I believe if we really, really wanted to, then the massively bloated Federal budget would have to be trimmed, and as we know, a gigantic budget is something both parties love.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 30, 2005 05:39 AM (0yYS2)
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Terrorists would take the credit for anything done against the US, so there's no reason to believe them. Conspiratizing is funner anyway.
You're absolutely right in your conspiracy theory and have entered the endless abyss of doubt, Improbulus. Here you can't choose a side because you know they are all useless and the people in them are selfish and only doing what is best for themselves.
Posted by: A fatwad Finn at May 30, 2005 06:16 AM (cWMi4)
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"right after 9/11 they kept telling us to return to our shopping.
So did Bush. "
That's who i'm talking about.
Posted by: actus at May 30, 2005 09:23 AM (Ygl+x)
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"Why is it so many people keep looking for the "real" conspirators of 9/11 when Al Qaeda, specifically OBL, has taken credit for it,"-Improbulus
Osama was alleged to have admitted to masterminding the 9-11 attack on the so called “Smoking Gun” video tape offered to us by our government.
The tape is a FAKE.
Please take a look at juxtaposed pictures of the real Osama and the “smoking gun” Osama. The “”smoking gun” Osama is clearly a fake.
By the way, what Osama said about 9-11 is that rogue elements of Israeli and US agents were responsible for 9-11.
http://www.rense.com/general18/face.htm
"Neither party wants to really win the war on terror because it allows the government unprecedented power."-Improbulus
That's why the government actively participated in 9-11.
Wake up, our governmant has betrayed us.
Posted by: greg at May 30, 2005 11:08 AM (/+dAV)
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The Fake bin Laden Video Tape
YOU ARE LOOKING AT A US GOVERNMENT LIE
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
On December 13, 2001 a videotape of Osama bin Laden "confessing" to the 9/11 attacks was made public. Look at the juxtaposed pictures of ‘Osama’ for yourself. The ‘smoking gun’ tape is clearly a fake!
Your government is lying to you. You should be outraged. When Clinton lied about a lesser offense he was impeached. It's time to impeach the chimp.
Posted by: greg at May 30, 2005 11:17 AM (/+dAV)
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I didn't base my support for the invasion of Iraq on the proposed existence or non-existence of WMD in Iraq. In fact, I reasoned that they could not have actually had a strategic weapon since if they had, they've have used it to deter an invasion (and it would have worked). As for the videotapes of Bin Laden's confessions, they sure looked like the same person to me when I looked at the tapes, not that it mattered very much to me. Nor does it matter to me now. He has clearly threatened a WMD attack on the US since, and would no doubt carry it out if he could. Anyway, if it's plausible that the videotapes were faked it's just as plausible that the "juxtapostions" were faked. And even if you happen to have alternative theories of these events any honest observer would have to admit that by far the most probable explanation is the one that most people accept: we're at war with extremist Wahabbi/Salafist Islam.
If you see fish scales floating on top of the water in your aquarium do you figure the government put them there to trick you into believing there were fish in the tank recently? Take an aspirin or something.
Posted by: Demosophist at May 30, 2005 12:40 PM (d0CtA)
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Lol, I love the whole "the media is biased against the right," "no, the media is biased against the left" debate. What a waste of fucking time.
One has to wonder what neocons will do when this neoconservative honeymoon finally comes to an end.
Posted by: Venom at May 30, 2005 01:43 PM (dbxVM)
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Venom,
The problem is that it's not just neo-cons or neo-conservatives complaining. This has been an age old problem, only now we don't have to be satisfied with a "letter to the editor" which conveniently found its way to the 86 file in the past. Now we have a platform. And you can't stand it, can you?
Posted by: Oyster at May 30, 2005 04:51 PM (YudAC)
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Greg seems to need a few weeks in detox.
Posted by: SPQR at May 30, 2005 05:09 PM (xauGB)
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Oyster,
I can't stand it? What are you talking about? I couldn't give a shit. Like I said, worrying about a media both the right and the left consider biased is a waste of time. Fact is, the media is never going to please everyone all of the time.
Now, what's this platform you're talking about? Blogs? C'mon, on-line competitions over who's more vain and has the biggest ego are now considered a platform? Or, maybe you're referring to the platform over the deep end, which is where a lot of this neocon "analysis" tends to come from these days.
Posted by: Venom at May 30, 2005 05:16 PM (dbxVM)
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Poor venom doesn't like it that the bias is being called into question by those with an independant voice. Here's a clue for you venom, its not the bias that's a problem, it's the refusal to admit that there is any.
Posted by: Defense Guy at May 31, 2005 03:29 PM (jPCiN)
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Poor Defense Guy can't read.
I never claimed there was no bias. In fact, I stated quite the opposite, in that complaining about it is a waste of time.
I should probably ask if you're referring to the Left who is calling the bias into question, or the Right?
Posted by: Venom at May 31, 2005 04:03 PM (dbxVM)
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Right venom, the statement about the neocon honeymoon coming to an end was meant as non-partisan in which you intended to chastize both the left and right equally. I suppose you think it's a waste of time because you share the bias, in which case you have no need to complain about it.
Posted by: Defense Guy at May 31, 2005 04:53 PM (jPCiN)
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