November 19, 2005

Hurricane Murtha and the Coming Deluge (Updated)

The flap over last night's vote in the Congress on a version of Murtha's proposal (or at least the way the "Arab Street," as well as our dedicated enemies, see it) reminded me of a theme I worked on for a short time last year. That theme concerned the extinction of the Democratic Party. The notion I had was that the Democrats would become so short-sightedly self-serving that they'd self-destruct, leaving the US a single-party coalition of sub-factions for the remainder of the Terror War. As I recall, I felt the denouement could be pushed out to the 2008 election, but Dan Darling (now with Winds of Change) felt it might hit sooner. Well, my updated impression is that either the Democrats or the nation itself will self-destruct some time between now and November, 2008. Ultimately there aren't two sides to history. If you're standing in the wrong place when the storm hits, you won't last long.

As I listened to Susan Estrich debate Gordon Liddy on FOX last night it occurred to me that the Democrats really don't get it. The vote recommending withdrawal of troops "immediately" was defeated 403 to 3. It was a brilliant play that might easily have been just as effective had it been introduced by a Democrat, but to hear them talk they bitterly resented being manipulated into sending Al Qaeda a message of opposition, and the Iraqis a message of support and succor (to say nothing of reassurance to our troops). Why wouldn't they be overjoyed? And by grumbling and adopting an accusational stance the message they're sending the American people is that their tightly negative agenda is more important to them than the interests of the country or the fortunes of democracy. Have they gone nuts? Essentially the Democrats have been captured by "bad philosophy": a bad philosophy of war and a bad philosophy of politics. They've simply lost the knack of governance and become the captive of a sophomoric and californicated "Marxisantism" that will be their undoing. (h/t Pat Conlon for the term.) And if the voters ever get a clear image of that situation then Dan and I will be proved right.

But it doesn't end there. Playing into that partisan dynamic is a clear bid for power by conventional media. If they can manage, by carefully avoiding reportage that attributes either success, or even a rational strategy, to our actions in Iraq, they will have demonstrated enough dominance for their ability to control the message to secure their status for at least a few more years. The gamble is huge. They've constructed a meme of "imminent failure," referenced numerous times by Congressman Murtha, that bears an ironic resemblance to their continued and oblivious promotion of the meme that Bush rested his case for invasion of Iraq on an "imminent threat." (I've lost count how many times this has been debunked.) Only this time the threat really is imminent, for if the levee they've built against the truth finally breaks The Deluge will follow.

Update: Fair notice: I'm a Democrat, or have been most of my life. I currently don't identify with a political party, but I'm not likely to ever identify with the Democrats again after this abysmal and ongoing display of bad judgment. My take is that the issues (though not the policy prescriptions) usually identified with the Democrats won't disappear, but will have champions within a much broader Republican Party, at least for the time being.

The Democrats escaped irrelevance in the wake of the Civil War, but just barely. And I think their time may have finally come to go the way of the Whigs. I've been waiting to see some sign that the Democrats were going to awaken, but most of coherent voices within that party are either moving in the direction of Michael Moore and Moveon.org or they're getting the heck out. It's clear at this point that they've been captured. And this could be the final stage in the McGovernization of the party that took place during the Vietnam era.

Well, we'll see if a hawk (relatively speaking) can win the nomination without groveling to the Marxisant wing. Clinton didn't say word one about Murtha, so she knows enough to keep her head down. But just how much do those candidates have in common with the rest of the party, since Murtha re-defined it as the "defeat is inevitable" faction. If there were a dominant Democrat who sees the logic of our foreign policy and defined it the way Newt has defined "The Long War" that person could play a role similar to Lincoln, establishing a third party that eclipses one of the majors. Not, mind you, that I think there is such a person in the Democrat ranks. There isn't. And there is already a party that champions democracy-expansion and nation-building, so we don't another. That is, unless the Republicans abandon the project at some point.

So the only thing that keeps the Democrats relevant at all is the set of social issues that the Republicans have, so far, failed to resolve. (Poverty and education being the main ones.) If a branch of the Republicans becomes "progressive" in the sense that it promotes an effective "ownership society" program then the last toehold of the Democrats will be gone. So far there are not many signs that the Republicans are willing to pay these issues much more than lip service, but the potential exists. (Think "Newt.") And once that happens the Dems will come crashing to earth with a bang.

Most people think a Hillary-Condee race would be interesting for its novelty, but the one I'd like to see is a Hillary-Newt race. That would have the potential to change the political landscape for generations. The race would be decided in the center, and odds are the Dems would not survive as an effective party.

Posted by: Demosophist at 02:35 PM | Comments (21) | Add Comment
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1 Yah and I keep loving the way they keep saying we are "playing politics" with the war. Uh duh that's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. So it's OK for them to play politics ont he attack but for us do defend against it is just wrong.

Posted by: Howie at November 19, 2005 04:46 PM (D3+20)

2 You have lost it. You Republicans are a bunch of greedy, non-caring people that are really really paranoid of Democrats! You make me sick!

Posted by: Connie at November 19, 2005 05:29 PM (k7GID)

3 So go vomit.

Posted by: Howie at November 19, 2005 06:21 PM (D3+20)

4 Connie ain't so sweet, is she? Where is any greed in the post at hand? Stupid democrats, yes, greedy Republicans, no. I am in no way paranoid of democrats, just can't stand them, but that is not paranoid.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 19, 2005 06:26 PM (rUyw4)

5 I would reply to the troll du jour, but she likely won't be back to read my witty retort, so I won't waste the time. Besides, considering that her world-view is about as sophisticated as a Nancy & Sluggo comic strip, i.e. monochromatic, two dimensional, and as less taxing to the brain than say, breathing, she probably wouldn't understand anyway.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 19, 2005 06:30 PM (0yYS2)

6 Your dream of Empire is coming crashing down all around you. Dinosaurs, suffocating in meteor dust. The storm's tentacles, directed at you.

Posted by: Menezes' ghost at November 19, 2005 06:48 PM (eYI8D)

7 "Besides, considering that her world-view is about as sophisticated as a Nancy & Sluggo comic strip, i.e. monochromatic, two dimensional, and as less taxing to the brain than say, breathing, she probably wouldn't understand anyway." Down with the unsophisticated simplistic world views!

Posted by: actus at November 19, 2005 07:05 PM (Zi15r)

8 That's just the typical M.O. of the hit-and-run troll. At least a couple of the lefty wackos in here will debate you regardless of their twisted logic. Connie obviously lacks the intelligence to back up her accusations. I vote Republican and I seriously doubt you come anywhere close to the amount of time I volunteer at the Ronald McDonald House or the amount of time that my wife devotes to being a Girl Scout Leader even though she's busy with other things because no one else in our mostly Democratic area would volunteer. We do these things not to feel good about ourselves but because they are the right things to do and we actually believe that we just might make a difference in a child's life. But because you disagree with our politics, you make a blanket statement that has nothing to do with the post. Take a long look in the mirror before blaming others for the hand you were dealt in life. So, why don't you get back down to Starbuck's and get me my scone? 'K, sweetie?

Posted by: slug at November 19, 2005 07:20 PM (NRSLh)

9 The ghost is a metaphysical giant, now isn't he. Haha!

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 19, 2005 07:25 PM (rUyw4)

10 Hey I'm done vacation at last, at last I say. Holy cow I've kicked ass this year. Did more projects than I thought I could blogged so on and so forth. Now 8 days of nothing. Don't know what I'll do with myself. Yall be good I'll see ya.

Posted by: Howie at November 19, 2005 07:50 PM (D3+20)

11 Bye, Howie, have fun, and come back soon. We'll miss ya.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 19, 2005 08:05 PM (rUyw4)

12 Hey, Check out this bitch, "Sajimi" at:"Zaqueery Threatens to Behead King of Jordan". She favors surgery, electric shock and drugs for "hate criminals". What a Liberal bitch!

Posted by: Menezes' ghost at November 19, 2005 08:22 PM (eYI8D)

13 >>>"Your dream of Empire is coming crashing down all around you." greg, ok, fine. It's all over for our "empire." But for our "dreams of empire" to come crashing down all around us, that means we'd have to lose in Iraq, right? So can we now all agree that you Libs have wanted the U.S. to lose in Iraq from the beginning? This late in the game, why keep pretending when everybody knows it. For people who are so obsessed with Bush's true motives, you people haven't been very honest about your own.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 19, 2005 11:51 PM (8e/V4)

14 I won't even address Connie, greg and actus. They're lashing out blindly. I'm a huge Newt supporter. When I suggested I'd like to see him run, the only response I got was, "Nobody likes him." I think he has a no nonsense approach to issues that belies both parties. And I will vote for him given the chance. He is a "true" conservative. As far as democrats go, there is only one democrat I would ever vote for for any office and that is Zell Miller.

Posted by: Oyster at November 20, 2005 04:54 AM (YudAC)

15 Who gives a shit what Murtha thinks. He's just another stupid democrat playing the game. This guy's nothing special. Why the big deal? Probably as dumb as connie above.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 20, 2005 06:24 AM (ZaAd/)

16 Newt's too valuable to be President. I think the best thing he can do is to keep on writing books and speaking, because when he explains it, only the most retarded mouth-breathing, pizza-delivering, living-in-his-mother's-basement moron like greg, or an effite, effeminate nancy-boy like rectus, who probably sits to pee, could not understand him.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 20, 2005 08:28 AM (0yYS2)

17 hahahahaha you repulbipuke theocrat turds of the holy state and infallibale pharoah. america hates you geek boys. you are now in the minority and everyone thinks you are coward pieces of shit, all talk, no walk. sign up geek boys. sign up for your american taliban fascist jihad. serious, sign up or shut up. thousands of troops want to come home to their families but can't because you pusseis have your heads up your asses. so it is your patritoic duty to sign up. now. put up or shut up. your little illusions and deficiencies are getting good kids killed. sign up or shut up. your president does not talk to god and your flag is not the cross. sign up pussies, you are exposed, we see through you and we hate you. sign up you paste eater pussies. we know your geek boy resentment fuels your fascism, sign up and allow these troops to come home. losers. america hates you, you are marginalized and we hold you responsible for all US deaths. semper fi. ernie

Posted by: ernieervin at November 20, 2005 12:47 PM (ocmaF)

18 semper fi up your ass you big phony. If you're a marine I'm an astronaut. And learn how to spell for crissakes.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 20, 2005 01:00 PM (8e/V4)

19 yup, american taliban jesusland asswipe carlos, you fucking pussy. eat shit paste eater, america hates you. go out in public and show us your tough guy views so we can identify you and beat your nerd ass. you are killing american soldiers with your pussy ideas you fucking shithead. 34% of you support your holy pharhoah asswipe, the rest hate him, and YOU. go fuck yoruslef pussy boy, we know you ltittle dick types have to be fascist, ya just cant help it can you you moral value retard. eat shit. america hates you and we hold you responsible for all 2085 dead us soldiers for your impotence and lies. again, bring your pussy ass conservative opinions in public and see what happens paste eater. ernie

Posted by: ernieervin at November 20, 2005 02:06 PM (ocmaF)

20 I say what I want, when I want, ernie. It's called freedom of speech, and it will take more than a little shit like you to shut me up. I got a Bush sticker on my truck, and no SOB has been man enough to touch it yet. So shut up with your shit, as any dumb ass can be tough on the internet.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 20, 2005 05:22 PM (rUyw4)

21 ernie, so you have a potty mouth, how nice. First you say only people signed up in the military can have a voice in this country, and now you threaten to inflict violence on people for expressing themselves publicly? You sound like a Nazi Brownshirt dude. You're a thug. And spare me your concern for the soldiers, most of them think you people are friggin traitors.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 20, 2005 06:00 PM (8e/V4)

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