1 Since when did truth and reason work with Democrats -- or the Old Media?

2 Timeline is important - CIA did have "problems" coming out of '90s and it takes a bit to straighten out. But key is ALL after 9/11 immediately - ALL targeting AQ and islamic friends and associates (and not deviating! - this is important!) ... BULK of OPS up front (9/12 -'04) - current OPS clearly implied by all as scaled back ... AND ONGOING! (DON'T BACK DOWN BUSH! LET THEM CALL YOUR HAND (IN PUBLIC!) If all that holds - lib/left goes BDS - EVERYBODY else goes "Yeah! So what!" Terror free at home is NOT by luck - and everyone KNOWS that (though some attempt (poorly) to imply otherwise ... "devil's in the details" and the "details (successes) are currently classified ... ... unless "forced" out (in '06)? I still believe there is an element of "planting" involved here ... hondo would do it - but I'm a devious smart MoFu - and and libs all know Bush/Cheney/Rove & Co. are morons - right? Big problems for DEM/lib/left - tie-in with Iraq minimal to non-existant ... program totally AQ, 9/11 aftermath & WOT! Predominate words put out by opposition - SPYING ON US RESIDENTS! CITIZENS used sparingly and generic .. this is No accident! Does our resident Dem/libs think non-conservative middle Americans are "going to give a flying fuck" the NSA is checking on "Momar & his brother Salad running that laundromat in Cleveland" in the aftermath of 9/11? I don't think so!

3 The book claims that the CIA knew that there were no WMDS but decided to ignore the fact and allow the administration to continue a logic that had no validity in reality. Too mnay facts are coming out about republican criminality...Abramoff is about to destroy the "republican revolution" to save his ass from years behind bars. Americans are waking up real fast to the corruption of the current administration and congress. Bush support from military drops to 54%, Murtha says he wouldnt join the army today, BUsh found to be illegally spying on US citizens, Delay and Frsit in legal troubles....man you guys are bumming come 06...do you smell impeachment too? ernie

4 No ice cream for you ernie!

5 And hondo, your racism blinds you, as Constitution supporting American citizens we deny the US executive the right to arbitrarily and illegally spy on ALL US citizens, including Muslims and folks of Abrab descent. The Constitution does not just guarantee rights for WASPY good toby keith listening republican texans. freedom and liberty, courage...over fearful needs for safety from a despot...ALWAYS! ernie

6 HA! NO SOUP FOR YOU TOO!

7 BUT A SONG ... Who's your daddy, who's your baby? Who's your buddy, who's your friend? And who's the one guy that you come runnin' to When your lovelife starts tumblin? I got the money if you got the honey Lets cut a deal lets make a plan Who's your daddy, who's your baby? Who's your buddy, who's your man?

8 "freedom, liberty and courage...." ernie talking about courage? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh that's rich.

9 good responses, i take it you agree with my points. this abramoff squealing thing should get real interesting. ANyone wanna take any guesses how many republican/democrat politicans go down in this? ernie

10 Wanna put your money where your big mouth is, ernie boy? Boy, where's your money?

11 Ha ha ha ha!

12 Please don't give him ice cream!

13 What are the chances that Risen will be jailed in an attempt to find out his sources? Probably wouldn't work as well with Risen because he will be receiving more money the more publicity he can get. As he sits in jail, he would be counting his money. How long could he be kept in jail for refusing to testify before a grand jury? Just for the life of the grand jury?

14 BUsh found to be illegally spying on US citizens, As usual Ernie misses the mark by about a hundred miles, as the targets have not been identified, only that the recipients were inside the United States, which obviously could encompass people inside the U.S on Work/University visa, tourist visas or even people here illegally, not to worry Ernie wants to give them all the rights of citizenship so he can stick it to Bush! (BDS) Did your mom feed you paint chip sandwiches for lunch Ernie?

15 "Abramoff" lil ernie, I bet you think they're still going to indict "Rove" too. bwahaha! keep dreaming. Abramoff will turn out to be just another one of many non-scandals you Libs keep working yourself up for. You're a pathetic sight.

16 Risen sounds like he might be a war profiteer in the mode of Richard Clarke. Oh, well. At least we know what the news peg is going to be for the next couple weeks.

17 "Richard Clarke" yup. The timing of all these leaks is always so conducive to their book sales. Disgusting. War profiteers sums it up well.

18 Hypothetically, would it be considered inciting to violence to state that anyone who knowingly and willfully damages the war effort and national security is a traitor and should be murdered in the street by a couple of guys in ski masks with ball bats? Hypothetically, of course...

19 The book claims that the CIA knew that there were no WMDS but decided to ignore the fact and allow the administration to continue a logic that had no validity in reality. OK, let's take that step by step. "The book claims" and so you're going to automatically believe it? Without a little more evidence to support it, I'll have to assume you accept that claim simply because it reinforces your own, already established view of things. I'm not even going to address the "No WMD'S" blather, it's rather tired by this point, and has been so well answered by so many others. But let's, for the sake of argument, pretend that the claim has even a sliver of validity. If the CIA failed to correct an assumption made by the administration, how does that translate to a fault on the part of the administration? Rather, it would be a stinging indictment of the CIA, and would raise serious questions (ones that are already being asked) as to why the CIA would intentionally sabotage the presidency. Too mnay facts are coming out about republican criminality...Abramoff is about to destroy the "republican revolution" to save his ass from years behind bars. I didn't know Harry Reid had changed parties. The fact is, there are dirty politicians on both sides of the political divide. So why did you bring it up? It has nothing to do with the Risen Book (making it a non sequitur), and it has nothing to do with the validity of any belief held by conservatives (making it an ad hominem). Two fallacies for the price of one! do you smell impeachment too? No, I just smell the same tired bullshit being spewed by your side that has been around since 2000.

20 From CNN [can't paste link] "CIA Director of Public Affairs Jennifer Millerwise Dyke issued this statement Tuesday about Risen's book: "Readers deserve to know that every chapter of 'State of War' contains serious inaccuracies. The author's reliance on anonymous sources begs the reader to trust that these are knowledgeable people. As this book demonstrates, anonymous sources are often unreliable. "It is most alarming that the author discloses information that he believes to be ongoing intelligence operations, including actions as critical as stopping dangerous nations from acquiring nuclear weapons. Setting aside whether what he wrote is accurate or inaccurate, it demonstrates an unfathomable and sad disregard for U.S. national security and those who take life-threatening risks to ensure it.""