November 25, 2005

Are the Democrats Fox Crazy?

Donald Sensing provides one of the best arguments for an increasingly popular theory about the recent Democrat political machinations. He thinks there's method in their madness:

So, knowing that the plan was to redeploy troops beginning next year, the Democrats decided to get in front of the wave: Demand the troops be sent home NOW and then when the Pentagon announces the plan to redeploy, take credit for it.

The two prongs of the attack serve two purposes. The "Bush lied us into war" wing satisfies the huge numbers of the party's base suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome. The "declare victory and go home" attack preserves, however weakly, the party's appeal to traditionally patriotic Democratic voters, of which there are also huge numbers. Doubtless the Dem leadership sees the attacks as a two-fer.

The appeals to both wings are intended to garner huge dividends in November 2006.

With any president but George W. Bush, they'd be wrong. But GWB is the easiest president to blind side that I have seen in my life.


The lynchpin of Rev. Sensing's theory is the observation (accurate in my view) that the Bush administration is composed of politically inept strategists and tacticians (more the latter than the former). So, if that's all it takes to give substance to his theory then he's home free. But there are a couple of nagging doubts:

1. For the Dems to have planned and strategized this dramaturge they'd have had to have the same opinion of the Bush political team as Donald and I. I just don't think that's the case. They've, for instance, expended huge portions of their political capital over the Plame case just to take out Rove, whom they regard as an evil genius with nearly invincible political acumen. And they, if anything, have lost ground as a result (thanks especially to Bob Woodward). And with such an overblown respect for the Rove "machine" they simply would never have considered the rope-a-dope script feasible.

2. It'd be easy to deflect such a strategy by simply observing, loudly and repeatedly, that what the President preserved was our discretion, in case conditions demanded a different draw-down rate. Yes, he always intended to draw down. He just wanted to keep our options open, as would any good Commander in Chief. Therefore a fixed draw-down wasn't a bad plan because the rate was either too fast or too slow, but because it was fixed: non-modifiable.

The Dems might, however, attempt to exploit the situation Rev. Sensing describes. it's true that their opinion of the typical American voter is so low that they don't believe voters capable of the nuance suggested in "2" above. But when it gets right down to it I just don't think they're right. The distinction between putting on blinders and keeping the blinders off isn't that hard to grasp. Besides I'd rather bet otherwise... because if the Dems are right about the voters we'll lose no matter how good the plan happens to be.

No, I think VDH is right. The smart Democrats haven't invested in the "Bush-lied-so-get-out-now" rhetoric, because the opposition's hand is far too strong and there's too much to lose.

(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia)

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1 then why doesn't dubya just announce that the plan is to redeploy?

Posted by: actus at November 25, 2005 01:37 PM (mZYql)

2 actus: Many of us have said time and again that we know we won't have 150K troops there forever, but the last and worst thing we should do is tell the terrorists that we're marching out on [insert date here]. it really IS that simple. ----------------------- I have no doubt in my mind that there are those reps and senators who say their actions are in the best interests of our country when their true goal is simply to secure votes. Else why would there be so much pork in our budgets, new legislation to appease powerful special interests or efforts to align themselves with causes which don't benefit the majority, but will certainly secure more campaign funding? Look at Kerry's choice of a running mate. Edwards [shudder], jeezum. He took Edwards on to get enormous sums of money from lawyers and law firms. And it worked. The money poured in. Their "silent" distancing of themselves from Sheehan, Moore, et al speaks much louder than anything they could say out loud. It's so blantantly obvious that some of these people are absolute nut cases, yet some reps refuse to say so even when asked outright. They'll mildy claim they "simply disagree" with Sheehan or another, then turn around and be obscene in their description of a political opponent with whom they "simply disagree". So yes, I think there are some who will underhandedly capitalize politically on developments that would occur anyway in regards to the war. And no, they don't think many Americans are savvy enough to see it. They'll bald-facedly stand up there and claim, at the first recall of troops, that it is the result of their incessant "voices of reason" finally being heard. Meh.

Posted by: Oyster at November 25, 2005 02:27 PM (YudAC)

3 I seriously canÂ’t see the democrats being this organized; they are just kicking republicans while they are down. ItÂ’s all they really got going right now.

Posted by: MonkMojo at November 25, 2005 02:34 PM (sWjGN)

4 The Democrats may indeed be fox crazy as a tactic-- that would be the most reasonable way to explain their plan to 1) cut, and 2) run. But their moonbat base is just plain crazy-- they really believe we should surrender and run with our tails between our legs. These are the true traitors in our midst.

Posted by: Carlos at November 25, 2005 03:30 PM (8e/V4)

5 Almost all politicians are opportunists. And of course their number one rule is "blame the other party" when all else fails "blame the french". In any case NEVER accept or admit to a mistake. Rewrite history whenever necessary: "of course I supported Rosa Parks in 1954".....

Posted by: john Ryan at November 25, 2005 05:00 PM (ads7K)

6 1954?

Posted by: Oyster at November 25, 2005 06:49 PM (YudAC)

7 1954? I think he's trying to make some cynically cryptic comment about all pols including those he favors. He apparently lacks any shred of a basis in faith even in his own. A point - I'd like to point out - is our ultimate strength! We do have faith.

Posted by: hondo at November 26, 2005 10:50 AM (Jvmry)

8 "actus: Many of us have said time and again that we know we won't have 150K troops there forever, but the last and worst thing we should do is tell the terrorists that we're marching out on [insert date here]." Why give them a date? give them a condition. We're taking away 1 soldier for every 10 iraqis trained. Or something like that. Or give me a date. Why the worry? If the terrorists strike we'll go get them. But let me get this straight: people who like the democrats want to cut and run are some sort of traitors, but all along the bush admin, with the actual power to reduce troop levels, is actually going to do that. And they're not traitors. Seems logical.

Posted by: actus at November 26, 2005 11:29 AM (mZYql)

9 actus It's my understanding that re-deployment base on conditions is being done and has always been part of the overall strategy. (Note: I am aware of extensive internal re-deployment going on now for several months within Iraq which is the precursor to staged withdrawl.) I myself would be at a loss for how to define & clarify the "conditions" in a way that would be understandable to the general population. your 1 for 10 is a good example. Its pop understandable but it doesn't really say anything in strategy context (and would be easy to manipulate). Territorial control probably would be better (towns, provinces, border regions etc.) but I'm not sure I could effectively explain that to the general non-military population.

Posted by: hondo at November 26, 2005 11:46 AM (Jvmry)

10 "Or give me a date." What a novel idea. I think I'll get in touch with the Pentagon straight away and demand a few military secrets because I think I should know. After all, I just want to know who is stationed where and for what. I promise, I won't tell anyone. actus: there are conditions. There always have been conditions. Else why would they have been training the Iraqis to do the job themselves? As they're ready to handle things on their own, we will begin pulling out. Why should they jeopardize so much progress by giving all the little details to you or anyone just because you have a notion that you should be privy to such information? ..."but all along the bush admin, with the actual power to reduce troop levels, is actually going to do that. And they're not traitors." Why are you so dense? There is an enormous difference between leaving at an arbitrary time and drawing down as certain conditions have been met. ------------------ Who said that actus was intelligent? Did they come to that conclusion just because he uses proper spelling and punctuation? Oh wait, intelligence =/= common sense.

Posted by: Oyster at November 26, 2005 03:39 PM (YudAC)

11 I did! - Punctuation and spelling should count for something. Or would you prefer attempting to have a converstion with lil' ernie.

Posted by: hondo at November 26, 2005 04:09 PM (Jvmry)

12 Back to the original thread. Are the Dems fox crazy? Nope, just crazy!

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 26, 2005 07:02 PM (rUyw4)

13 "actus: there are conditions. There always have been conditions. Else why would they have been training the Iraqis to do the job themselves? As they're ready to handle things on their own, we will begin pulling out." Do we have any estimates of this? I'm sure they have estimates.

Posted by: actus at November 26, 2005 10:30 PM (mZYql)

14 actus What I hear is 6 months to a year with an end force reduction of about half - leaving apx. 75000 in theater by the end of '06. Its my understanding that we are about 18+ months behind schedule at this current point. There are some rather interesting reasons for this worthy of discussion if the domestic climate was objective and not poisoned. "Training the Iraqis" is one of the critical reasons - most people don't know what that actually entails and means - you would be "surprised and maybe shocked" at what the real story is behind this.

Posted by: hondo at November 26, 2005 11:24 PM (Jvmry)

15 This is plausible however, I think they are hurting themselves more than they are gaining I don't put much stock in polls but I just saw one believe it was PEW that says 60 or so percent of those poled believe what the DEMS are doing is hurting the troops if this is true they are cutting their own throats.

Posted by: Joe at November 27, 2005 12:32 AM (kEgnJ)

16 Funny how amongst all these polls, there's never one where the soldiers are asked how they feel about things.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 27, 2005 09:04 AM (0yYS2)

17 70% Say Dem Cut-And-Run Strategy Hurts Morale http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600745_pf.html

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 27, 2005 11:45 AM (8e/V4)

18 "Funny how amongst all these polls, there's never one where the soldiers are asked how they feel about things." Oh, a democratic army, sounds good. "naah, we vote to not follow those orders."

Posted by: actus at November 27, 2005 06:34 PM (Zi15r)

19 Actually actus there are. Taken stateside, amongst those deploying, returning, Guard, Reserve, in theater ... They are not published by the MSM ... way to positive and optimistic. Obviously their opinions are considered tainted, irrelevant or whatever. Pity. So many claim to care about us - but what we think, feel, and believe is a bit of a problem for them.

Posted by: hondo at November 28, 2005 10:14 AM (Jvmry)

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