1 This is really the fault of the Republican/Conservative leadership in this country. We in America are letting these people become the tail that wags the dog. Why doesnÂ’t Presidential, Senate, and House leadership get out and criticize this blatantly anti American organization? We need to define who we are and who they are. When these lines are clearly drawn, Americans will choose one or the other. The majority of Americans will side with what is best for our country. ItÂ’s almost as if the conservative is afraid of offending the guy who is sticking the knife in his back. Who the hell cares about offending him? Throw him down and kick his ass! Even if you loose, you didnÂ’t go down like some ass kissing clown who pretends to respect and admire the bastard who stuck you. You sure donÂ’t see democrats holding back their views on subjects like the Roberts confirmation. Why is the GOP so timid in taking on this very partisan organization that is hated by so much of this country? I believe it is the fear of the MSM. Well the MSM isnÂ’t what it used to be and we better take the offensive our we will loose without firing a shot. LetÂ’s have it out and let the chips fall where they may.

2 Be aware their antics (and others like them) do have different kinds of consequences. Conservatism has been growing/spreading in this country since 1980. They (Left) have slowly over the past 40 years alienated/pissed off millions of Americans. Their actions not only have revitalized and strengthened conservatism with new conviction, they have "helped" considerably in moving the "swing" (on-the-sidelines) voter our way. We are winning - ever so gradually - but winning no less! Never forget that powerful statement by R Reagan in '80 - question: Why did he leave the Democatic Party - answer: They left him.

3 That's why the left is enamored with the ACLU and other left leaning organizations. They are the champions of anyone in our country who doesn't belong. Why does one think the left is so vehement in fighting laws that will curb voter fraud or laws that promote convicted felons' right to vote? They have lost so much support from "natural" American citizens that it's the only way they can get enough votes to remain relevant. They're desperate. Desperation breeds mistakes, exposes lies and will further marginalize them. The Republican party is starting to piss me off too. They stand there and take it and don't fight back. They're just trying to appease the Democrats now. It was evident in Bush's last speech regarding the Katrina disaster. He might as well have just stood there with a his mouth shut and held up a blank check for all to see and abuse. Might as well take that check and dip it in a vat of pork lard before he signs it. Sorry, got off on a tangent there.

4 The problem with knee-jerk Republicans is that once you cut them off at the knees your left with jerks. There are few true conservatives in the house or senate.

5 You guys are such spazzes. The gov't works for *us*, the people. The ACLU finds evidence that there were, in fact, more systematic problems in the training of interrogators, which the big overview report denied. Now, if you are a boss, and your employees are bullshitting you, do you just let them continue blowing smoke up your ass? What, do you like that tickling sensation in your butt, or something? Me, I demand the truth, and accept no substitutes. Why don't you?

6 Dear Hoganator: "The gov't works for *us*..." You're damn right. But the ACLU? That's a whole 'nother story. I don't want to have to explain the Geneva Convention thing to you. I think you already know it. Nobody's tickling *my* butt. I just don't care how they were treated. That's just how I feel, take it or leave it. If these detainees were in uniform and not specifically targeting non-combatants - women, children, old men - sawing the heads off innocent people and torturing some to degrees that would make what happened in abu Graib look like a tea party, I'd agree with you. I mean c'mon, they're killing their own without remorse. At what point are we finally allowed to stop caring? So it's not necessary to talk down to us about our ignorance or denial. I understand your chagrin. The government ticks me off too. This just doesn't happen to be on my particular radar. But exposing the treatment of the terrorists isn't enough for them. We're not stupid, we know what went on. They will carry that banner as high and as long as they can. And everytime something else grabs the headlines they start anew. Now they want to extend our rights to those who would gleefully kill any of us, including their infidel, ACLU saviors. And they've succeeded. How much is enough?

7 Traitors R Us? Find me the WMD and maybe I'll be nice.

8 Hoginator, Next time you send a democrat presidential candidate out to the suburbs, tell him to stand up and speak clearly in defense of the ACLU. Guess what, he/she wont do it. My challenge is also to liberals: Have the balls to stand up and tell us in your campaigns that you support the ACLU without reservation and without any qualifying statements. Then let the chips fall where they may. YouÂ’re a lying pussy hoginator because you and your kind will never present your views to America honestly in an election. You know what our reaction would be.

9 We have three solutions to problems that face our society; the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. When the the first two have been nullified by corruption, and no longer serve the People, that only leaves the third. It is clear that the ballot box is stuffed, the jury box is rigged, and so the cartridge box is all that's left. I have no faith left in the government or the greatest majority of the people, because the government is corrupt and incompetent, with politicians bought and sold by special interests like whores in a brothel. The people have become generally stupid and apathetic, unable to think for themselves and more concerned with sports and celebrities than with the enemies which threaten us. Only a small minority of the people are now capable of thinking and acting in the interest of the survival and continuance of our civilization. I now honestly believe that the solution of 1776 is the only one that will work, as we've had years to find another solution, but things just keep getting worse. It's not because a solution doesn't exist, or because it's beyond us, but I have to believe because nobody really wants a solution. The worse things get, the greater the power of government grows, so solving problems is not in government's best interest, and therefore a conflict of interest exists between the government's duties to the People, and bureacrats' greed and lust for power. Just a little over two hundred years ago, a small percentage of the population decided they'd had enough, and stood up the the most powerful government and military in the world, to overthrow tyranny and preserve liberty, and the won. They did so despite the fact that many of their neighbors actively fought against them in support of tyranny. They did so in spite of the odds against them, which were astronomical. They did so because it was the only option they had, besides slavery. They had to win their freedom, or die trying. Now is our time to choose; what will be our course of action? To allow a corrupt government, which has been sold lock, stock, and barrel, to the highest bidders, to continue unchallenged? Do we continue to tolerate open treason and sedition, often by our own elected officials, against the nation and the people? Or do we stand up and challenge those who are charged with the duties of leadership to do the jobs they were chosen to do, and hold them accountable for their crimes of corruption and incompetence? If we do not make ourselves heard by our voices, we will soon have no choice but to make ourselves heard by the sound of gunfire, because we must not allow this creeping tyranny to advance farther. I don't advocate, nor do I want to see, open rebellion or civil war in America, but I'm just one citizen of millions who are fed up, and have zero confidence in the government, and the idiots in Washington had better realize that, because once things get so bad that enough people have given up hope of a civil solution, there will be no stopping it. It's better to live one day as a free man, than one hundred years as a slave.

10 More from the evil Atheists.Communists.Lawyers.Underground. our own al queda the will replace the pledge with earth mother stanzazs or with HAIL CEASAR or HAIL KOFFI and have the koran in place of the bible and a PLEDGE TO THE EARTH as well

11 Violence mongers jumpin' around rattling their prescription pill bottles like maracas - impy strokin' the barrel of his gun, dreaming of bloody revenge.

12 Revenge? No. Simply justice.