report nearly identical political stories on the same day it can mean only one thing. Someone's been planting a story. Shenanigans are afoot.
Farbeit from me to imply that candidates can't prosper by counting on the stupidity of New York City voters (Upstate New York, a red state within a blue state, doesn't have a large enough population to have a say in electing Senators or Presidents). They certainly can, as seen by the urbanites' election of Hillary the Carpetbagger and the equally ineffectual Chuck Schumer. So, it's possible that Saint Cindy is planning a serious run for NYC Senator.
More likely, Sheehan is simply a stalking horse for Hillary's re-election to the Senate and anticipated run for the White House. There's obviously no way that Hillary is going to run for President successfully as a liberal. That makes Sheehan's antics just so, so convenient politically, as a way to allow Clinton to pretend to be a moderate Democrat in 2008. The real question here is, what did Hill promise Sheehan and her followers? Support for a cut-and-run policy? A place in the cabinet?
That's not to say that there's anything illegal with clandestine collusion between Clinton and Sheehan. Just an indication that the wife shares the husband's character.
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Sheehan is to Hillary as mutton is to a wolf.
Interesting theory about Hillary leveraging CShee for moderate political footing, but I don't buy it. That Hillary Bitch is trying to out Neocon the Ziocons. She's an adjunct Senator for Israel. I'd vote for CShee over Hilllary in a minute.
Bluto,
This post is an attempt to entice those who are unsure of their coolness, into a discussion.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 07:37 PM (TVaWo)
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greg is right. This is an obvious ploy by the Village Voice types in the Democrat party to make Hilary look moderate and electable. Who cares, it's not real.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 07:46 PM (8e/V4)
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That's what I get for skimming. You're wrong greg. It's a ploy. I wish Hilary were a neocon, but she's not. She's just faking it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 07:48 PM (8e/V4)
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CShee is a Bitchee who couldn't win a political race unless she happened to be in an insane asylum. Oh, did you say New York City? She could win.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 07:48 PM (rUyw4)
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I agree she's a fake.
OOoooh! OOoooH! Yeah baby!
(Hillary Faking It)
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 08:03 PM (TVaWo)
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Anyone want to join me for iceskating in hell? Greg is right, in his own X-Files-esque "there's-a-jooo-under-my-bed" paranoid sort of way. That, however, does not negate the fact that whether Cindy is only acting to make Hitlery more palatable, or is high as a kite on her fifteen minutes of fame and thinks she could actually win, neither scenario is good news for the Dhimmicrats. The Barking Moonbat vote is probably about 10% of the Dhimmi's constituency, if not more, and if a strong Republican, or even a less repulsive Democrat with less baggage, were to challenge Hitlery, the fraction that Our Lady of the Ditch would take from her could be a death blow. My only question is: Where do I send the donations to Cindy's campaign?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 08:11 PM (0yYS2)
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The Republicans are unlikely to waste a strong candidate on a New York Senate race, but anyway, Cindy doesn't really have to run, just make noises about it. It's all about perception and soundbites. Hillary can't run for the White House as a liberal. Sheehan's actions help build the moderate myth.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 02, 2005 11:03 PM (RHG+K)
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All true Bluto, but I think the libtards are the only ones stupid enough to think that casting the Ditch Witch opposite Hitlery will do anything but highlight their similarities rather than differences. Giuliani could beat her hands-down, but I think he's deluding himself that he could be President. Perhaps he could be Condi's VP, but he's too nice to be President. We need a firebrand, and Condi is as fiery as they come.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 12:49 AM (0yYS2)
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Maxie!!!!!!!!
Rudy nice? He's one vindictive mean tough SOB with one really abrasive personality!!! And I voted for him 3 times!!! Joke here in NY is even his own friends don't like him! He saved this city but sure as hell not with his pleasant smile.
9/11 I was on site almost immediately working with the water evacuation - headed inland with some PD and deckhands looking to guide stragglers down to the Marina and Battery Park - we actually ran into Rudy & crew - friend said he must be a fuckin' idiot to be down here - well - we were all down there sooooo .....
nice - he ain't - good & tough yes.
Posted by: hondo at November 03, 2005 01:23 AM (ymtSt)
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I don't think there is anything to read into the two stories. NewsMax is a tabloid and the Village Voice couldn't survive anywhere BUT in a Moonbat colony.
Cindy would have to move to NY to run. She couldn't survive ten minutes in NY. She ain't tough enough. What's she gonna do anyway?
Cry for votes? "Vote for me! [sniffle, snork]"
Hillary's losing her base with every mention of the war. To be in cahoots with Cindy on boosting her image as a moderate would only make things worse. She won't gain enough votes on the right to make up for her lost votes on the left. The only votes she'll gain on the right is weak-willed women. And trust me. She probably thought at first that Cindy was "cool", but since Cindy's insulted her .... whoa nellie .... hell hath no wrath like Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 06:27 AM (YudAC)
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Hillary's base isn't going to vote for a Republican. Not even if Hillary comes out for invading Iran and Syria and names Adolf Hitler as her running mate. She knows that. They'll squawk and whine, but they'll still back Hillary. I don't see what she has to lose by trying to hide her true colors and run from the center.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 03, 2005 09:10 AM (RHG+K)
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Okay, not her "far-left" base, but if Hillary runs against someone like McCain in '08 she'll lose a number of those democrats just left of center. If she runs against a republican further from center, it'll be a different story.
Betcha.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 09:44 AM (fl6E1)
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Bluto, I'm afraid you might be right, especially about Hitler, who would definitely help soften her public image.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 09:47 AM (0yYS2)
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actually, if you cut New York City out of new york, Bush would have seriously still lost. Same if you add westchester and long island.
additionally, chuck schumer won every county in NY except for hamilton in 04. ineffectual? he's chair of the DSCC!? You could make the argument that he barely won in 1998, but it was against a republican born also born in NYC and raised on Long Island.
I'm also tired of these arguments about how people in rural areas don't have a say just because there are fewer of them. JUST because there a fewer of them?
If upstate wants to succeed that's great. I'll take the 89% of the tax revenue that the city (49%) long island, rockland, and westchester (40%) send to the state and improve subways and schools.
In a lot of ways, this is symptomatic of much of the rest of the country. Small red-state populations complaining about waste imposed by blue-state liberals who are actually paying the most into the treasury and getting the least back.
Hillary needs to swing towards the center, and frankly, cindy sheehan doesn't matter. didn't matter for bush, will matter less for clinton. she could eat a baby and kick a priest in the balls and she would still trounce pirro by 20+ points.
Posted by: FU at November 03, 2005 04:10 PM (JJYcT)
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Cindy and hillary sister carpet baggers
Posted by: sandpiper at November 03, 2005 08:09 PM (I9Upt)
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FU: Don't throw me in dat briar patch, Br'er Fox. We've been begging you City parasites to let us secede for years. You've bled us dry, first by attracting Welfare recipients from the entire Eastern seaboard and Puerto Rico, now by voting as a bloc to consume the lion's share of not only State income, but Federal funds, as well.
The population of New York State is 19 million. 11 million live in NYC and account for the common interest (something for nothing) voting bloc that elects NYS Senators and decides electoral votes. Just like a typically provincial NYC lib to consider 8 million people a "small rural population".
You also might want to check on just how much the City is getting back, and in what ways. People die up here every winter for want of money to salt and plow state roads. Of course those who die are only useless rural trash in your eyes, but still. Also look into income from the Port Authority, too, which is a drain on State resources, but enriches City coffers.
I was being kind to Shumer. He's worse than ineffectual. He's part of the Dem minority that is hoping for the GWOT to go south. Hillary, too, no matter how many sausages she gobbles at the state fair.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 03, 2005 08:38 PM (RHG+K)
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Remember brer rabbit was born in the briar patch
Posted by: sandpiper at November 04, 2005 09:05 PM (4yJRe)
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