March 02, 2006
Ranting HS Teacher Hires Ward Churchill's ACLU Lawyer
The Colorado high school teacher who was caught on tape by a student while indoctrinating his students with vile, raidcal leftist dogma has hired an attorney from the ACLU. Not just any lawyer either, but the same one who represents Ward Churchill, the man who called 9/11 victims "little Eichmanns".
Here's a sample of what Bennish told his Geography class, courtesy of Michelle Malkin:
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Now, I'm not saying that Bush and Hitler are exactly the same. Obviously, they are not. Ok. But there are some eerie similarities to the tones that they use. Very, very "ethnocentric." We're right. You're all wrong.Bennish was exposed when student Sean Allen taped the class to help with his notes. Sean's father heard the tape and complained to the school administration, who ignored Bennish's rant until Mr. Allen went to the local media. Then Bennish was suspended.
Via Stop the ACLU. Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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The irony is that next week he had a whole lesson plan lined up where he gets his students to simply accept that a cartoon of mohammed wearing a bomb turban is a celebration of free speech.
Posted by: Mason at March 02, 2006 10:26 PM (T/kas)
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Oh the irony! That he even needs a lawyer for this merely proves his point.
Posted by: Natasha at March 02, 2006 10:46 PM (i6py+)
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What point, Natasha? That it's oppressive for a geography teacher to be expected to teach geography instead of pitching into lunatic rants during class?
That's it's not evil for an authority figure who controls his pupils grades to indoctrinate his students?
If you got pulled over by a cop and he launched into a rant about liberals would you argue with him or agree with him, hoping to get off with a warning?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 02, 2006 10:51 PM (RHG+K)
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Fire him for incompetence and be done with it. I've been fired for far less.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 02, 2006 11:04 PM (8e/V4)
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I guess that's a no brainer, pun no, no pun intended or unintended or was that unattended?
Posted by: the other forest hunter at March 02, 2006 11:52 PM (Fq6zR)
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I love cases like this! They strengthen the growing push and acceptance of school choice, vouchers, private education, and home schooling.
This is a very common practice in parts of the country in public schools. Its been going on for over 30 years - AND - if it was successful Hillary would be president today in an landslide. IT HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL so don't go crazy and lose your cool over this. It has actually been backfiring very slowly over the same time span.
This particular case involves a leftist teacher as opposed to a liberal teacher - there is a difference - yeah - I know what everyone here is gonna say - but a lib is sly about it and stradles the line, while a leftist jumps head first across ... use the leftist fuckup to get to the liberal - its easier and more effective.
This is not about free speech (though they will try), and it is not about teaching - it is classic attempted specific viewpoint political indoctrination of children in a forced mandatory environment - or as I prefer - intellectual pedophilia.
Posted by: hondo at March 02, 2006 11:56 PM (fyKFC)
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JC
Its not incompetence or anything like that - going that route will always fail - and it gives the libs tons of wiggle room to ease away from this.
See it for what it is - insidious politizing of children in a governmental environment requiring forced presence and participation.
Posted by: hondo at March 03, 2006 12:13 AM (fyKFC)
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Interesting, er, Geography they teach these days. No wonder kids can't read maps anymore.
Posted by: nuthin2seehere at March 03, 2006 01:59 AM (blNMI)
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I use sites like this to teach English to my students. It's great because, one it's real. Two, I don't have to think of a thing. They like the perspective of reality versus TV and MSM.
Posted by: forest hunter at March 03, 2006 02:41 AM (Fq6zR)
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Natasha is a rightwing wackjob. When she's nnot donating time to the RNC, she dreams of licking the lint out of Karl Rove's fat, sweaty belly button.
But then. You already knew that.
Posted by: jenni at March 03, 2006 03:44 AM (FXug0)
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I was taking some courses a the local community college a couple of years ago, and there was one adjunct law teacher -a practicing lawyer, no less- who was prone to go off on rants about various Constitutional issues, and of course, she was always wrong, in which I found great entertainment by pointing out in fine detail, before the whole class, exactly how she was wrong, and kicking her ass in every argument. I was shocked to get an A in the course, because I figured she's retaliate against me, but I think she knew it wasn't the best idea to try.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 03, 2006 05:31 AM (0yYS2)
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I listened to the whole rant in an audio file and the thing is, most of these kids didn't listen to Bush's speech nor did they listen to what Condi Rice had said, both of which Bennish was purportedly "quoting" from. The problem was that he wasn't quoting. He was twisting what they said, using his own words, and adding his own crap to further his rant.
The World Trade Center was a "military" target? Tobacco fields in the Carolinas are no different than coca fields in Columbia? Whoah, Nellie!
Posted by: Oyster at March 03, 2006 06:10 AM (YudAC)
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Did you notice that he kept referring to "co-co" fields rather than "co-ca" fields? While listening to him, I wondered if the 10th graders in the class knew the difference. But then I thought, of course they do after all the consumer drug education they have had by that age!
Posted by: Babs at March 03, 2006 08:42 AM (iZZlp)
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>>>The problem was that he wasn't quoting. He was twisting what they said, using his own words, and adding his own crap to further his rant.
It's pretty funny hearing stuff after it's passed through the BDS filters.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 09:35 AM (8e/V4)
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Oh the irony! That he even needs a lawyer for this merely proves his point.
The fact he hired Ward Churchill's lawyer, the guy who claimed those killed on September 11th were "little eichmann's" and that the duty of Soldiers was to "Frag their Officers" pretty much proves a different point, however?
I'm guessing you do not have Children, due to the fact you are not upset about this, when a teacher states his opinion, it comes with a lot more weight, due to their normal teaching role of providing facts.
It is as much a parents responsibility to provide critical thinking about ones Government, and politics as it is to teach your child about sex and drugs. I would say the same about any teacher providing his political views on a child.
Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 10:23 AM (CcXvt)
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Such a teacher who dares be so incredibly POLITICALLY INCORRECT must be silenced! He should not be allowed to teach our children for us!
If we allow EVIL LEFTISTS to teach evolutionary "science" and speak their left wing thoughts out loud, to our children in school, who shall be left to expose them to the other side of such arguments? Well certainly not we ourselves. It is the duty of THE STATE to teach our children proper values. That is why we must make absolutely certain that our children hear only politically correct views at school.
Or we could teach our children how to use their critical intellect. We could help our children to develop the ability, to think for themselves, rather than merely accept what they are taught to believe.
Of course this would take hands on parenting. We would have to actually get involved ourselves instead of leaving our children's education solely the responsibility of state run schools.
Too many so called conservative parents, wrongly think that "getting involved" means policing educational facilities, in order to "weed out" teachers who don't think right. Apparently such also believe that education and mental conditioning are one in the same. They are not.
Teach your children to 'question everything' tossed at them as fact. Teach them to weigh the evidence, considering all viewpoints, so they may then form a rational and well considered opinion. Teach your children to think for themselves!
This is something rarely done by parents, on either the left or the right these days, because both alike are terrified that their children will later not agree with them. Clearly such people, left and right, have no faith in the intelligence of their own offspring. Both alike are devoted to indoctrinating their children rather than teaching them how to think for themselves.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 11:33 AM (i6py+)
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So Natasha, if an Earth Science teacher decides to tell his class that AIDS should really be called "God's Just Burning Vengeance Disease*" because "...gay people brought this plague upon us by their sins..." you'd be okay with that? I mean, surely the kiddies need to be exposed to all ideologies in order to learn "how to think for themselves"?
*From The National Lampoon circa 1988.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 03, 2006 11:49 AM (RHG+K)
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Natasha:
It's not about "left" or "right" I would be equally mad at any teacher that gave his opinion, as a fact.
Nowhere during reading the transcript of this recording did I hear him encourage his students to read material that documented his allegations, or to challenge his point of view, nor did he differentiate his opinions from facts.
There is a place for encouraging children to be critical of foreign policy, and the Government: it's called "home"
You do not need to be "politically correct" if you were teaching Geography as instructed, instead of comparing the sitting U.S president to Hitler, or pushing the opinion that Israel is a terrorist state.
Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 11:58 AM (CcXvt)
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As if such is not being pounded into children's heads already bluto?
Could you actually bring yourself to read what I wrote instead of just scanning it and triggering? The answer to your leading question is already in my above post.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 12:04 PM (i6py+)
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Dave do you presume that I approve of the actions of this teacher?
If so why do you?
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 12:09 PM (i6py+)
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Natasha,
if it's not a parent's duty to ensure their children aren't indoctrinated by maggot-infested moonbats, I don't know what is.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 12:16 PM (8e/V4)
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I don't know Natasha, could it be:
Oh the irony! That he even needs a lawyer for this merely proves his point.
Posted by: Natasha at March 2, 2006 10:46 PM
Proves his point?
Did I misread your intent?
Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 12:18 PM (CcXvt)
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Dave
Yes you did Dave.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 12:36 PM (i6py+)
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How so? his point is that Bush = Hitler.
perhaps you can explain what you meant?
Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 12:39 PM (CcXvt)
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jesusland carlos wrote, "if it's not a parent's duty to ensure their children aren't indoctrinated by maggot-infested moonbats, I don't know what is."
How far would you be willing to go in rooting out those who try to indoctrinate your children carlos?
Would you merely pick and choose which indoctrinators are OK?
Would you merely pick and choose where your children can be indoctrinated?
Are you sure that you are not really saying that brainwashing, conditioning, indoctrination, what ever you wish to call it, is OK as long it is the of the correct kind?
I beleive that much more than the supposed "best way" to protect our children from being indoctrinated, the only way which we really and truly can protect them from brainwasing, is to teach our children to think for themselves.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 12:50 PM (i6py+)
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Natasha, no, the answer isn't in your post. But if you can document a teacher telling children that AIDS is "God's Just Burning Vengeance Disease" (or something similar) email me with it at dreadpundit@hotmail.com so that I can expose the bastard(s).
Methinks your phony outrage is reserved only for ideologues who conflict with your own beliefs, i.e., your are intellectually dishonest.
And btw, belated kudos to hondo for creating the term "intellectual pedophilia" - brilliant!
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 03, 2006 12:55 PM (RHG+K)
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Dave wrote, "How so? his point is that Bush = Hitler. perhaps you can explain what you meant?"
Please read my last post before this one, and think about what I may really be saying Dave. Maybe then we discus this. Or we can just argue like a couple of idiots, each presuming we already know the other's position and how wrong they must be. I can tell you right now I don't want to merely argue though.
I have work to do right now though, and so I will be away for a while. Please think about this 'with me' Dave. Maybe we can both learn something from each other. : )
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 01:03 PM (i6py+)
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"intellectual pedophilia"
agreed, brilliant. You better copyright that one asap.
Natasha,
yes, as a parent I reserve the right to choose what kind of indoctrination my children will receive. Moonbats will raise my children over my dead body.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 01:04 PM (8e/V4)
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Bluto your belligerence prevents us from communicating, and it also undermines your both your position and your credibility.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 01:07 PM (i6py+)
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Bluto your belligerence prevents us from communicating, and it also undermines both your position and your credibility.
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 01:07 PM (i6py+)
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Natasha:
It's probably due to the fact this happens a lot here: People post their "true" knee-jerk reaction immediately, then follow up with a sympathizing, patronizing post with thinly veiled messages that attempt to belittle republicans. It's the kind of game you can see everyday in people's *cough* dailykos diaries, where they fake outrage and then post about their "victory" on their echo chamber @ dailykos.com
Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 01:08 PM (CcXvt)
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Yes a lot of baiting goes on, and so does a great deal of mere punditry, rather than honest communication. The tactics you describe, so very well I might add, are employed by so called liberals and so called conservatives alike though. It really is horribly wrong I agree.
Such is extremely counterproductive, being founded upon mere partisan bias, coming from both extremes. Of course we buy right into it when we presume such chicanery is the sole domain of "the others" though.
I have never posted at dailykos myself. It just does not appeal to me. I have dropped by a couple of times and read though, and so I know they practice political correctness every bit as hypocritically as do some so called conservatives right here jawa.
I am not at all pleased with such bullshit, and as a Republican I am extremely offended by the neocons, because they are among the worst offenders.
I really have to get going. Oh my god now I am late!
Posted by: Natasha at March 03, 2006 01:35 PM (i6py+)
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"maggot-infested moonbats"
Uh-oh. SOMEONE's a happy ditto-head. That's Rush's pet phrase from today's show. I'm just waiting to hear Sean do his own unique "Chihuahua-with-a-chew-toy" rant on this.
I think EVERYBODY in America slept through the SOTU, which was just more canned on-the-stump boilerplate about "evil-doers," so I can't really fault Bennish for paraphrasing. Otherwise, he doesn't seem to have said anything that isn't at least arguable, if not demonstrably true.
No doubt he and his high-powered attorney will make a fuss. With luck, maybe they can spearhead legislation to impose content guidelines and uniform performance-testing requirements on parents who home-school.
Some good may yet come from this.
Posted by: Rotwang at March 03, 2006 02:22 PM (kQLcs)
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>>>as a Republican I am extremely offended by the neocons, because they are among the worst offenders.
If you're a Republican I'm an astronaut.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 02:35 PM (8e/V4)
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>>>maybe they can spearhead legislation to impose content guidelines and uniform performance-testing requirements on parents who home-school.
Why? Homeschooled children perform better academically at every level than children at public screwls. Fact.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 02:37 PM (8e/V4)
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JC
Notice the fear some have of home-schooling - include vouchers and other alternatives. To the lib/left, possession of the classroom (elementary & seconday) is as important as possession of the courts.
All this is just a very obvious example of using public schools as a mandatory captured audience to proselytize a very specific political view-point.
The left is ham-handed at it - the liberals more coy & cute - but neither are truly effective.
Posted by: hondo at March 03, 2006 04:29 PM (fyKFC)
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I see Natasha is at it again. Totally missing the point that this was a geography class. Geography! Not "Mao's Little Red Book 101". These were 10th graders in a public high school where pushing one-sided political viewpoints is not supposed to be going on. The schools say so themselves. Too bad they're only willing to enforce it at whim.
Nobody here even remotely implied they would prefer Bennish, or other teachers, adopt a far right-wing agenda and start preaching it through lies and distortions in their high school geography classes. But don't let that stop you, Natasha, from your thinly veiled accusations and belittling.
"Too many so called conservative parents, wrongly think that "getting involved" means policing educational facilities, in order to "weed out" teachers who don't think right." Well it certainly seems to be a no brainer for liberal parents. The schools themselves have been careful to keep conservative teachers a distinct minority. What are they afraid of?
Now don't you have a conspiracy to promulgate somewhere, Natasha?
Posted by: Oyster at March 03, 2006 07:32 PM (YudAC)
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Looks like it takes one to know one especialy when it come to these reptiles at the ACLU and these leftists teachers
Posted by: sandpiper at March 03, 2006 08:45 PM (oN6hw)
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"Uh-oh. SOMEONE's a happy ditto-head. That's Rush's pet phrase from today's show. I'm just waiting to hear Sean do his own unique "Chihuahua-with-a-chew-toy" rant on this.
I think EVERYBODY in America slept through the SOTU, which was just more canned on-the-stump boilerplate about "evil-doers," so I can't really fault Bennish for paraphrasing. Otherwise, he doesn't seem to have said anything that isn't at least arguable, if not demonstrably true."
The term ditto-head when Rush first coined it, heralded the lock step conformity of neocon political correctness, and yet no one has more unfailingly railed against political correctness than he himself.
Bush's war on terror has ignited global chaos, and his gift of freedom to Iraq comes with the added bonus of civil war. I can only hope that he is less successful in his efforts to make our homeland safe.
A mighty fortress is his skull. - The Colbert Report
Posted by: Natasha at March 04, 2006 02:59 AM (i6py+)
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"I am not going to rise to the bait being trolled by those who wish to divert the topic of this thread."
Oh wait ... who said that?
Posted by: Oyster at March 04, 2006 07:18 AM (YudAC)
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There is no such thing as neocon political correctness. Political correctness is a Leftwing invention. Harriett Myers and Portgate are pretty good evidence of that. Virtually all of Rush's callers disagreed with him on both counts. So much for dittohead "political correctness."
Rush Limbaugh hands you Lefties your ass on a plate 5 days a week. Been doing it for years. Which is why you hate him so much. Your hatred is the sincerest form of flattery. But it's as effective against him as the beat of a mosquito's wing is to a hurricane. All you can do in response is thrash about and gnash your teeth in frustration. Natasha is a good example. He ain't going nowhere.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 04, 2006 10:53 AM (8e/V4)
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Ha Ha ha ha
Thanks Oyster
Posted by: hondo at March 04, 2006 10:54 AM (fyKFC)
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"Rush Limbaugh hands you Lefties your ass on a plate 5 days a week."
I would suggest that those who actually believe that should watch The Colbert Report, but the idiots would probably think Steve is one of them.
Posted by: Natasha at March 04, 2006 03:47 PM (i6py+)
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