The tin foil brigades will march on President's day to protest the 9/11 conspiracy. And by conspiracy they mean that 9/11 was an American conspiracy. They will also attempt to arrest former Mayor Giuliani for his part in the conspiracy. Which is odd because Rudy isn't, as far as I know, a J-O-O.
It would be funny if these people were indeed as marginal as I would hope to believe. As it is, I believe their march constitutes a legitimate 'fighting words' defense.
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Alright. Who lives in NYC that can take pictures of this circus for us? Marginal doesn't even begin to describe these whack jobs.
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 09:54 AM (osKlJ)
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Somebody who lives in NYC needs to throw a stink bomb in the crowd. Oh, never mind, who would notice?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 24, 2006 09:58 AM (rUyw4)
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Protestdriod: "We are here to serve a CITIZEN'S WARRANT and arrest the Ex-Mayor!"
Officer Mulligan: "Sure y'are, laddie. But I'm afraid it's not going to happen. Move along now, there's a good little moonbat. Don't be makin' me and the boys thump yer pointy little heads."
Posted by: mojo at January 24, 2006 10:04 AM (kvY5N)
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In all fairness, nearly every commenter following the post is laughing at him. Some are pretty damn funny. A couple tried to defend him and came off just as looney.
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 10:10 AM (osKlJ)
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"We will then confront the media organizations The Nation Magazine, Democracy Now, The New York Times, and A.N.S.W.E.R as symbolic targets of de facto complicity with their silence and neglect of journalistic duties"
When you've started to think that The New York Times and ANSWER have become too soft, perhaps it's time to do a self-examination of your mental health.
Posted by: Graeme at January 24, 2006 10:16 AM (svnaF)
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An examination of the mental health of these people would be quite interesting, actually. I would be curious to know the medical term for the mental illness that afflicks these people. It's good for them, I suppose, that mental illness no longer gets you automatically confined to an institution, and good for the taxpayer also, as the numbers of these idiots has climbed over the years.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 24, 2006 10:30 AM (rUyw4)
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Where can I sponsor one of these kids? Every time one of these freaks are spotted a bell rings and a New Yorker votes Republican.
Posted by: Gordon at January 24, 2006 10:39 AM (JwR1N)
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>>>A.N.S.W.E.R
And I thought is was merely a mental disorder.
These people have veered off into full-fledged madness.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 24, 2006 10:50 AM (paKD6)
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Who puts this consperacy crap into the heads of this kuds? they should be hung
Posted by: sandpiper at January 24, 2006 10:54 AM (U+eLg)
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"Rudy isn't, as far as I know, a J-O-O."
Well his name is JOO-liani! What further proof do we need?
"When you've started to think that The New York Times and ANSWER have become too soft, perhaps it's time to do a self-examination of your mental health."
Since when do crazy people admit they're crazy?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 11:12 AM (0yYS2)
Posted by: Howie at January 24, 2006 11:17 AM (D3+20)
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Name the punk band: Here are a couple of lines of the lyrics.
I'm not crazy (institution)
You're driving me crazy (institution)
Taking me to an institution, telling me it's the only solution
Hint: "All I wanted was a Pepsi"
Posted by: Rusty at January 24, 2006 11:18 AM (JQjhA)
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Rusty - Suicidal Tendencies of course.
Posted by: scarletbegonia at January 24, 2006 11:27 AM (z77r4)
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I operate in NYC and would be extremely happy to take pictures, even video, of these wing nuts.
Posted by: Agent Meatball at January 24, 2006 11:32 AM (30FRH)
Posted by: Howie at January 24, 2006 11:33 AM (D3+20)
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Institutionalized- Suicidal Tendencies.
Posted by: disgruntledinca at January 24, 2006 11:34 AM (IpG/2)
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You all win thes valuable prizes.....
Posted by: Rusty at January 24, 2006 11:38 AM (JQjhA)
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I think the more media coverage the better. There has to be an archival photo somewhere of one of their leaders arm in arm with Hilary, Dean or Gore. Fox could have a field day pasting one of these photos up while running the story of the 9-11 conspiracy nuts “day off in New York”. If we’re lucky, they may even bring up the weather machine, fake moon landing in 1969, or bombing of the NO dikes.
Give them rope, plenty of rope.
Posted by: Brad at January 24, 2006 11:51 AM (3OPZt)
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I love this! Here in NY the left is pulling out all stops to alienate .... marginal liberals! Cannibalism on parade!
If I got some time, I'll try and check it out. Should be some really cool Performance Art stuff on view - they really like that stuff - and its often amusing in a bizzaro kind of way.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 12:06 PM (3aakz)
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Hondo and Agent Meatball - I beg you, PLEASE, get pictures. I need a really good laugh. Oh and if you see inflatable scrotum guy, pass him up, okay? [shudder]
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 01:43 PM (osKlJ)
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That Greg Nixon guy is also a member of
impeachbush.meetup.com/
Still looking ...
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 03:30 PM (osKlJ)
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He's even posted his screed on the History Channel site. On the same message board there are
a whole slew of TFH wearing kooks.
He lives in Burlington VT. I have his email too.
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 04:03 PM (osKlJ)
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It sounds like they chose sides. heh.
Posted by: newc at January 24, 2006 04:40 PM (HUiqh)
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Who is behind this web site, and why do you wish to hide / belittle the truth of 9/11?
Posted by: bill giltner at January 24, 2006 05:32 PM (PXRQW)
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wow. bill giltner is insane. Just look at his website.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 24, 2006 08:32 PM (XA7De)
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The truth? We all know it was the JOOOOOooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOOZZZZZzzzzz Bill.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 10:32 PM (0yYS2)
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Hey Bill, did you hear the U.S Government has retrofitted the crashed Roswell space shuttle with a earthquake generator, and a "PROJECT BLUEBEAM" Jesus projector?
Posted by: dave at January 24, 2006 10:35 PM (CcXvt)
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lmao!!! too fucking funny.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 24, 2006 10:36 PM (51oif)
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Yeah, I remember those nutcase last 9-11. It was my son's first trip to Ground Zero since his father died there. We saw those idiots spewing there garbage and I just had to say it. I looked their speaker straight in the eye and said in a loud voice "Your are sooo full of shit!" The entire crowd did a whiplash manuever and my son thought we were about to be mobbed. We exited back on the subway before anyone could do anything. I despise these jerks!
Posted by: mithglin at January 25, 2006 04:42 AM (kp3ms)
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Mithglin, I'm sorry you had to endure that. These people are soulless.
Posted by: Oyster at January 25, 2006 10:04 AM (osKlJ)
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Always a liberal, on 9/11, I became a supporter of the President and stayed glued to FOX NEWS
24/7. I supported both wars, too. Just like the President, I wanted to get those evil-doing Bastards. So on 9/11, effectively, I waved my flag with every other good patriot.
But then a friend mentioned that to him? 9/11 did not make any logical sense at all. He shared his un-answered questions.
Why did our entire military, NORAD, the FAA, and the Pentagon's own defense fail us for the first time in history not once but with four separate planes? Why did three skyscrapers fall in nearly free-fall and look just like films of controlled demolitions? And how come no skyscrapers had ever exploded like that due to fires alone (and never mind one building, but 3 of them, and WTC7 was not even hit by a plane)! How come so many of the hijackers are still actually alive? Why did the Pres. stop caring about Bin Laden and told us that basically it's not even important that we find him? Why was Marvin Bush in charge of security for the WTC towers on 9/11? Why was there no 757 wreckage found at the Pentagon? Why didn't the Pentagon ever release the footage of any plane hitting the Pentagon? Why wasn't the hole in the side of the Pentagon anywhere near as big as the wingspan for the jetliner, neither in terms of width nor height? Why did the plane "know" to pick the part of the Pentagon where there were relatively few employees working (and none of the highest brass) and the section that had just recently been bomb-proofed? Why did Larry Silverstein, Leaseholder for Bldg. 7, tell the firefighters to "pull" that building? (You can't just pull a building - you need to place explosives in it in advance). Why did Rumsfeld tell CNN that Flight 93 was shot down over Shanksville? My friend had so many questions that I had to read for myself.
So I did my research - month after month I kept saying NO WAY that our own government had anything to do with it! I REFUSED to believe it, for months! That would be evil, after all, for a government to harm nearly 3,000 people in order to get into some wars!
Denial is not a place in Egypt. It is where we go when we don't want to face up to something that might be too painful to bear.
Well, long story short, many, many articles, countless photographs and several books later I learned the real truth. 9/11 was done with the full cooperation of some insiders in our government in high levels.
Please know that those who have questions are not insane. They are merely individuals who think for themselves. And admittedly, it is extremely painful to realize that one's own government would do such a thing - and actually has done many covert operations and false flag attacks for many years.
Please do not take my word for it - nor
Greg Nixon's word for it, either. Trust your own brain. Do the research like I did. Think for yourself. Read read read with the brain you've been given and think critically. Here are some places to get more info. Just look at the evidence as if you were a detective or a scientist. Our government has been lying about many things - and 9/11 is just but one.
Here are some websites to learn more for yourself. Please don't dismiss this until you have done your own research. Don't you owe it to yourself not to simply listen to everything you hear out of the oval office, and to read the research and use your own good mind to mull over all of these things that just do not add up?
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/
http://www.911proof.com/
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.reopen911.org/
Posted by: formerbushlover at January 25, 2006 07:59 PM (JuLkv)
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formerbushlover,
I can sum up your well-researched data by adding 3 words to the very beginning of your post: "Once a liberal,"
I am renewing your prescription and increasing your dosage to 20mg. DO NOT TAKE WITH KOOL-AID!!!
Please stay away from all windows and sharp objects.
Asshat.
Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at January 26, 2006 04:21 AM (maXzk)
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I find it funny how 'critics' of the 9/11 attack say stuff like this:
And how come no skyscrapers had ever exploded like that due to fires alone
Hello? fires alone? did you miss the rather large plane impacts that went through the building floors, pillars and structure in general at high velocity?
Why is it you idiots continue to separate the Fire, from the impact of a Jet liner as if one or the other wasn't a factor?
Hey heres a free clue for you moron, perhaps you can tell us when the last time a commercial jet hit a building deliberately, and it survived?
Posted by: dave at January 26, 2006 07:41 PM (CcXvt)
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1943 a b17 bomber hit the empire state bldg
. at almost 300 miles an hour and did minimal damage you pathetic troglydite morons!
Posted by: None of your idiotic business at January 26, 2006 11:32 PM (skZky)
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I guess you liberal FAGGOTS will also call the firefighters and police that were THERE that are saying that it was an inside job and that THEY HEARD the BOMBS going off a bunch of nuts too?
Posted by: nunyabiznes at January 26, 2006 11:38 PM (skZky)
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Why the fear of people who ask questions?
Is it easier to find someone that has a great sound byte and then just keep repeating that?
Since when has a patriot become someone that just repeats what he hears others say? Being a ditto head is not patriotic nor is it a defense of your countries Constitution.
If there is naught to fear, but fear itself, then maybe you should keep running in circles and screaming and shouting that ‘moonbats and tin foil hats’ are out to get you and destroy the world.
On 9/11 or the first time in 20 years Norad didnÂ’t have a plane in the air for less than 10 minutes. Why? Why did it take 1 Hour and 43 minutes to respond? Do you feel safe now?
The original articles of impeachment on Clinton included that a passenger plane had made it into NYC airspace and it had taken 10 minutes for Norad to respond. Only one other time has Norad taken longer, that was 12 minutes. New worl Record for the defence of the Eastern Fainancial district seaboard, 1 hour and 43 minutes. Well Done! When are they going to beat that record?
Of course now someone is going to talk about the Mid West and a golfer instead of staying on subject, which includes that NoradÂ’s prime responsibility is to protect the East Coast from attack. In the 1980Â’s, before there was an Al Quaeda, captured terrorists said that they had considered using airplanes in retaliation for the attack in Lebanon.
Before the 3 TV Stations footage of the Air Force Colonel in charge of the Virginia Norad Air base was confiscated, I heard him say, live on TV, when only one plane ahd made its target, that when he called his superior, he was told to ground the plane he had in the air and to not fuel or arm either of his places until he received further orders. Over 2 hours later some northern Norad base was allowed to send a jetÂ… way to late. This Colonel knew more than 40 minutes before the first plane hit.
What terrible things would happen to American citizens if we were allowed to see more than 5 frames of a video camera as the ‘plane’ that hit the Pentagon passed behind some object. Of the 5 Video cameras that had a clear view of the incoming plane, none of them are allowed to be seen as that would compromise national Security. Well, I suppose it might, if that wasn’t a 757. Are you afraid to view a 757 hitting the side of the pentagon, hitting an area that was just reinforced to stop exactallly what just occurred? Something that penetrated 5 walls, then exploded? Would that footage permanently harm your psyche?
Please donÂ’t ask any questions yourself, it would make it hard to be a faithful lapdog ditto head. Find someone who has nice neat short statements that you can remember, and repeat after them, the moonbats and the tin foil hats are going to get you if you donÂ’t protect yourself by calling them the names you learned to use in 7th grade.
Posted by: questionier at January 27, 2006 12:53 AM (95gWQ)
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questionier,
You have an incredible grasp of the idiotic. Here's an Occam's razor for your birthday.
Stew in your moonbat doubts and conspiracy laden existence... The drama will kill you.
SOTG
Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at January 27, 2006 07:54 AM (maXzk)
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the only "conspiracy theory" that exists surrounding 9/11 is the official version. read through the PDF file at http://911truthemergence.com/911fairytale.pdf and then see if you still believe the official version. or just ask yourself: "why do i believe what i do about 9/11?" is it because you've researched, read, and thought about it, or because a t.v. told you what to think? the official version of 9/11 has no more validity than any other lie of the bush administration. please see: http://benjaminpritchard.name/transparency.html
Posted by: benjamin pritchard at January 27, 2006 09:44 AM (J4sZB)
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so everybody who disagrees with bush is a fucking liberal. OKC bombing was an inside job, WTC 93 the motherfucking FBI's John Anticef (spelling?) gave ahmed salim a million dollars, explosives and along with detonators to park against the main support column to make one WTC collapse onto the other and bring about martial law. THANK GOD that didn't happen because the arabs hired to do this were IDIOTS!! This was in the NYT for a little while but quickly went down the memory hole!
BENTON K PARTIN's material (now part of congressional record) he said according to his analysis of the OKC explosive signiture the support columns had shaped charges placed on them and no way a "truck" bomb could have done that damage.
BTW he was the former head of an Air Force Weapons Lab, so He must be a tin foil hatter too huh?
you FUCKING pricks need to pull your head out of your asses and realize america is being dismantled right before your very eyes and you're cheerleading the efforts of the globalists!!!!
We are on the verge of going into iran because of their NOOKULAR weapons.....the real reason they want to go to iran is because iran come this march is going to sell oil in EUROS. SAME FUCKING REASON WHY WE ARE STUCK IN IRAQ!!!
ONLY ELEMENT MISSING IS ANOTHER FALSE FLAG ATTACK TO RALLY THE IDIOTS SUCH AS YOURSELVES BEHIND ANOTHER MidEAST FOLLY against a very powerful country. IRAQ and afghanistan were relative cake walks!!!
Posted by: Corporal! at January 27, 2006 11:06 AM (BHHsV)
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Well, it is obvious who it is that doesnÂ’t want anyone to ask questions about obvious irregularities.
Those folks are supporting the destruction of the constitution, wrapping themselves in the Flag that true patriots are sworn to defend, not use as a shield.
If they could get past the 7th grade puberty level of potty mouthed name calling, they enter 8th, 9th and more high school curriculum and maybe get some algebra, learning to do some deductive thinking instead of gonad exercises.
What really amazes me is their use of Liberal as a dirty word. It comes from Liberty.
What else confuses me is that they sort of claim to be conservative (yeah right, and GW has the best pResidential ratings in the last 200 years) yet they donÂ’t reflect that either.
At the best, they would be nationalists, but further study of definitions (as printed in the dictionary, it is a big book, hard for some to open and read, yes, yes I know) but more likely we have Neo Cons (no better or safer than Neo Libs I might add) and the slimiest crawling outta the wood work, the Fascists, claiming they are spreading Democracy while destroying it here at home.
Here, have an exercise in seeing if your labels match what the rest of the world uses as a reference for the English language.
http://www.onelook.com/
http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm
The fortunate thing in these links is that there are itty bitty little sound bytes, the problem is they require independent thought to be able to understand and use as something other than a ditto head, who has no freaking idea what he is talking about.
So, back to 9/11? What is so damned dangerous about asking about the irregularities, all the things that the government just refuses to cover? Like? Why did GW say that there would never be an investigation and that no one would ever be held responsible for the security failures that day? Who is in whose pocket here?
That is the question....
Posted by: Questioner at January 27, 2006 01:47 PM (95gWQ)
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formerbushlover:
For someone to claim that he has done a lot of research, the only research you obviously did was on debunked 9/11 conspiracy websites.
It is incredible that after 4 years, your long paragraph lists nothing but long-since debunked nonsense. Can you explain rationally to us why you did not do the necessary research that would tell you conclusively that what you have written is wrong, debunked, irrational, and just plain silly?
It's rather amazing how gullible people can be.
Posted by: S. King at January 27, 2006 05:32 PM (7b4mH)
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S. King, well, so former Bush lover's web sites are pretty much showing wht has been disproved, as if they are Gov plant jobs, but, where would you recommned people to get data that wasn't fed to us by people from outerspace?
Q.
Posted by: questioner at January 28, 2006 02:04 AM (95gWQ)
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questioner:
Show me the websites in which physical laws have been disproved and why you believe them.
Show me the websites which would lead you to believe that evidence does not matter.
Posted by: S. King at January 28, 2006 07:18 AM (7b4mH)
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Look, anyone who has spent a few minutes looking at the evidence can see something was not right on 9/11. You really have to be blind to not question the government's involvement in 9/11.
From hijackings done with boxcutters to pilots not alerting ground control of a hijack to the lack of air defenses to the strange collapses of WTC1, 2 and 7 to the bizarre plane crashes at the pentagon and in Shanksville, it is all to clear the official story is a joke. I can understand not wanting to admit the government was behind it, it is an ugly truth, and it is hard to bear. But wake up. This is the truth of our country, and 9/11 was just the most extreme example of many other similar hoaxes over the years. If you want to live in denial fine, but you're being used, and you should realize it.
Posted by: Spooked at January 28, 2006 09:23 AM (wPOBL)
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S. King
The question was, "what web sites would you recommend, those not carrying Government disinformation, those that aren't trying to sell easily disproved idiot theories so as to discredit those that have serious scientific queries which the governments story needs to suspend the laws of physics to make their story work".
The fact as stated by you was that Bush Lovers shared sites are disinformation.
I can't be convinced of anything just because someone says something isn't good, I need to see the information they have used to reach their conclusion that something else is the right conclusion.
I watched 2 TV sets from 8 minutes after the first plane hit. I saw the colonel in charge of the AFB interviewed, I heard reporters state that Bush was aware of the attack and was going to a press opportunity at an elementary BEFORE he read my pet goat and was caught on film being told the second plane hit another tower.
I have about a dozen questions that the government won’t answer or their answers suspend the laws of physics, the only answers I have is that Bush and his cronies have dodged an investigation, downright said that 9/11 will never be investigated, then when it was investigated, those I saw live on TV were on the ‘hand off’ list for National Security and the list goes on.
If you have ever raised a mess of teens, going through puberty, you know when something is up. YouÂ’d think these boys were able to lie to us better than a bunch of 6th/7th graders, after all, the are OUR REPRESENTATIVES, not the Big Corporations, which they act like.
Questioner
Posted by: questioner at January 28, 2006 11:16 AM (95gWQ)
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Spooked,
Quite the contrary, Spooked. I've spent four years consistently debunking the 9/11 Denial Movement. When you make such idiotic statements as you just did, it is quite obvious you haven't even spent one minute evaluating the evidence whatsoever.
Pardon me for laughing but you are awfully naive and gullible.
Posted by: S. King at January 28, 2006 12:25 PM (Rdl8p)
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Questionner wrote:
"The fact as stated by you was that Bush Lovers shared sites are disinformation."
You are confused. You forgot that you stated that, to wit:
"so former Bush lover's web sites are pretty much showing what has been disproved." Those are your words, not mine, but you are unwilling to identify what web sites those are.
Then your write:
"I have about a dozen questions that the government wonÂ’t answer or their answers suspend the laws of physics, the only answers I have is that Bush and his cronies have dodged an investigation, downright said that 9/11
will never be investigated, then when it was investigated, those I saw live on TV were on the ‘hand off’ list for National Security and the list goes on."
To make the incredulous statement that "their answers suspend the laws of physics", you must be getting that information from somewhere. Why are you unwiling to tell us?
Posted by: S. King at January 28, 2006 12:45 PM (Rdl8p)
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Questionner wrote:
"The fact as stated by you was that Bush Lovers shared sites are disinformation."
You are confused. You forgot that you stated that, to wit:
"so former Bush lover's web sites are pretty much showing what has been disproved." Those are your words, not mine, but you are unwilling to identify what web sites those are.
Then your write:
"I have about a dozen questions that the government wonÂ’t answer or their answers suspend the laws of physics, the only answers I have is that Bush and his cronies have dodged an investigation, downright said that 9/11
will never be investigated, then when it was investigated, those I saw live on TV were on the ‘hand off’ list for National Security and the list goes on."
To make the incredulous statement that "their answers suspend the laws of physics", you must be getting that information from somewhere. Why are you unwilling to tell us?
Posted by: S. King at January 28, 2006 12:46 PM (Rdl8p)
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Ignore S. King he is a troll that only hopes to
waste your time in endless "debate"
Posted by: Greg Nixon at January 28, 2006 09:54 PM (wT6sE)
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It is amazing to see the number of complete nuts we have in this country.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 28, 2006 11:29 PM (rUyw4)
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