December 01, 2005
Is President Bush Against Christmas, Too?
I got my official White House Christmas card yesterday. It seems that the Commander-in-Chief is not exactly leading by example in the Christmas vs 'holiday' debate.
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Even though I'm not as emotionally invested in this debate as others, I do think it's nice to acknowledge a specific holiday, and would have liked to see a Christmas wish. I've never understood why people shy away from it. I've lived overseas and was always glad when someone wished me well on holidays-- even ones I didn't celebrate.
Here is the card I (and a bajillion others) received. Click for bigger view.
PS-I like the whole Bible quote thing, but it's kind of generic for a 'Christmas' card, isn't it?
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Rusty you cockbag! I thought I was the only one getting a card! GHADDDAMMMAT!
I mean, I am the one who sent the nekid pics to him during the year and all. DANG!
Posted by: Filthy at December 01, 2005 09:08 AM (5ceWd)
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Did you notice the postmark was from Crawford?
Yeah, I wondered why they'd put a Bible verse on there but not the word Christmas.
Posted by: GroovyVic at December 01, 2005 09:35 AM (u5Tfl)
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Yeah, I noticed that. I'm showing all my friends how 'special' I am to have received a 'personal' card from Bush.
Posted by: Rusty at December 01, 2005 09:40 AM (JQjhA)
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I wonder if Sen. Kerry's Christmas cards are postmarked from Cambodia. Gotta check on that...
Posted by: Wine-aholic at December 01, 2005 09:58 AM (fgZZg)
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Go to the Fox News website and check out their Fox News HOLIDAY ornaments. There is also a line of HOLIDAY ornaments from O'Reily. HA HA HA!! You people are so fucking ridiculous.
Posted by: A Guy at December 01, 2005 10:25 AM (uuJOn)
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Happy Holidays
Posted by: CDB at December 01, 2005 10:50 AM (iHfod)
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My God,
This web-site is full of Saddamites and rejectionists.
Why, oh why do you hate Christmas.
May God have mercy on your souls, now pass the butter and guns and bibles.
-GSD
Posted by: Granite State Destroyer at December 01, 2005 10:51 AM (XRIh/)
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This is an example of the right-wing being wrong yet again, in not supporting equality of religion in the US, but rather succumbing to the arrogance that comes from being in the majority - on religion in this case.
Our country was largely founded on protecting the rights of individuals, and yet the right is happy to take advantage of majority status on too many issues to give themselves advantage.
The US does not have an official religion, and while the majority gets its appropriate benefit that the period is treated as a national holiday, and certainly recognizes that most Americans are celebrating Christmas, that's not enough for the right. They can't let other Americans be treated equally by making the official government recognition inclusive of other Americans - they insist on treating them as second class citizens.
One of the dangers in the best form of government, democracy, is arrogance in the majority leading to restricting individual rights too much for people in various minorities.
Good Americans recognize the need for freedom and rights for a broad range of society.
The day any American is told he can't celebrate Christmas freely in his church, in his home, can't have publig gatherings organized by fellow citizens, let me know and I'll defend their rights.
Until then, the right, IMO, is anti-American in rejecting the 'holiday' messages.
Posted by: Craig at December 01, 2005 11:10 AM (l2qAd)
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Wolfowitz doesn't celebrate Christmas and surely he's getting a holiday card.
Posted by: Klaus at December 01, 2005 11:20 AM (JsQ+9)
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Oh shut up Craig, and quit your snivelling. I'm an atheist, and I say it's Christmas, not some stupid, neutered liberal "holiday". I say Merry Christmas and I put up a Christmas tree. I may even sponsor a nativity scene this year in a public place just to piss off the liberals. Know why? Because it's an American tradition, and it's a pretty damn good one, well worth saving. Just because I don't hold the same beliefs as everyone else doesn't mean I have the right to screw it up for them, and neither do you or any other bedwetting liberal. Hell, even a muslim deli owner I know says Merry Christmas to his non-muslim customers, so get over yourself.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 01, 2005 11:22 AM (0yYS2)
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Thanx for the lesson, Craig. Now let me tell you something. It's not the effort to be inclusive of other religions, nor even the "Holiday" greeting so much as the massive exclusion of the word Christmas.
Like Rusty, I don't have much emotion invested in the issue, but I see the lengths some are going to to omit it by browbeating others. It's not just Christmas, it's an all out assault on anything related to Christianity. Some of it is pretty ridiculous. If you're too blind to see that then you're going to be spending some pretty miserable moments stewing over it. Now lighten up and quit acting like everyone here is guilty of what you're accusing them of. I'm sure there's someone out there who is. Go preach to them (oops, did I say preach?)
Posted by: Oyster at December 01, 2005 11:47 AM (fl6E1)
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I see Improbulus and the rest of the Right Wingnuts are being as open-minded as usual. Do any of you remember the hissy-fits you all throw over "Political Correctness"? Now you're using "I do it so everybody else HAS to do it my way" illogic. Talk about a made-up, pointless, imaginary victimhood issue.
Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. Joyeus Noel. Merry Kwanza. Happy Yule (for the Wiccans).
Happy Holidays for everyone! May you celebrate this season in whatever manner you wish.
Now get over it.
Posted by: Percy's PoP at December 01, 2005 11:54 AM (CMyz0)
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Boy, Remember when the liberals used to be accused of being whiny victims.
Now I can't worship beezlebub in public without getting an in your face assault from some whiny, self righteous conservative yahoo trying to stuff their hoky religion down my throat.
I always answer the "Merry Christmas" whiners with a hearty "Hail Satan"....
So, ye wingers, quit ye whining.
-GSD
Posted by: Granite State Destroyer at December 01, 2005 11:55 AM (XRIh/)
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Celebrating Christmas was by no means the norm when our country was founded. Some of the leaders of our country felt that Christmas was an English tradition to be disgarded. At the time of the Constitution's signing it was illegal to celebrate Christmas in Boston. You could get fined and thrown in jail. So, how does an "originalist" like Scalia deal with such a problematic historical fact? Like most conservatives, he ignores it.
Posted by: Bill at December 01, 2005 12:20 PM (Msfso)
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Once upon a time, you could have been thrown in jail for helping a runaway slave as well. Some old laws suck b/c they are too focused on addressing a 'historical fact' and hence they change. Maybe we shouldn't ignore that law... just to note the difference b/t ignoring and altering bad law... anyway, carry on with this boring debate.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at December 01, 2005 12:27 PM (Wsn+K)
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Hi, OT, but can someone help me find a 3-letter word meaning Jew? I'm stuck on this crossword puzzle.
Posted by: tubino at December 01, 2005 12:36 PM (npedF)
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JOO
Posted by: Wine-aholic at December 01, 2005 01:20 PM (Wsn+K)
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So, know even the head Christian has abandoned the "true faith". Next thing you know the import of lions will raise sharply, it's a plot I tell you.
In any event Happy Chrismahanakwanzica to you all
Posted by: delen at December 01, 2005 01:22 PM (9mi0T)
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Say, Improbulus, what Christmas traditions are actually American, anyway?
Caroling?
Nativity scenes?
Christmas trees?
Santa Claus?
Celebrating the birth of Christ?
Or, maybe the American contributions to the traditions of Christmas that you are thinking of revolve a little more around the Christmas Eve Sale at your local shopping mall.
You've seriously got to be wacked out of your skull if you think Christmas is an American holiday. No wonder most of the world thinks we're so damn arrogant. To hear some of you people talk, you'd think Jesus Christ was born right here on Main Street, USA, locked and loaded.
Posted by: Not As Crazy As You at December 01, 2005 01:28 PM (Xrghn)
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My personal favorite Christmas tradition is the gathering around the Yule log and singing Mr. Garrison's "Merry F-ing Christmas." But, that may just be a Shackleford family tradtion. I dunno.
Posted by: Rusty at December 01, 2005 01:34 PM (JQjhA)
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Wine-aholic
Always thought the the Joo's were Korean
Posted by: delen at December 01, 2005 01:35 PM (9mi0T)
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The one from last year was blown up and framed. It's on the mantle where the dead deer used to be.
Posted by: thirdee at December 01, 2005 02:01 PM (458SF)
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It's called being polite. Something that
seems to escape too many people these
days. When you send someone a card, it is
supposed to be for their benfit, not your
own. When I send cards to friends who are
Christian, I send "Merry Christmas cards.
When I send cards to friends who are
Jewish I send "Happy Chanuka" cards. When
I dole out stacks of cards to business
aquintances I stick with a generic
"Season's Greeting and a Happy New Year"
to minimize the chances of offending
people whose religion beliefs I don't
know, nor would it be appropriate to find
out. The President is mailing generic
cards to people he doesn't personal know
and it would be inappropriate to single
out a particuliar religion. I feel
certain that the cards he sends to those
he personal knows are appropriate for
that person.
Posted by: Puddlejumper at December 01, 2005 02:19 PM (6zjU8)
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Celebrate CHRISTMAS or die!
Posted by: Jester at December 01, 2005 02:41 PM (wBDaS)
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Happy Festivus for the rest of us!
Posted by: Sirkowski at December 01, 2005 02:46 PM (A2Qsr)
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I thought it was the libs that tried to shove their tastes and beliefs down others throats.
Only under The Bush Crime Family could diversity become a bad word.
This debate is regurgitated from 1921 when Henry Ford first brought it up. Then John Birch in the '60s.
Silly wingnuts, X-mas is for kids!!
Posted by: omoom at December 01, 2005 02:54 PM (kmaBF)
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Why don't Bill O'Reilly take on the war against puppies? Those evil Leftofacists are always posting pictures of cats! That must mean they hate puppies and will torture yours the second Bush is out of office.
All Hail King Bush!
Posted by: John Gillnitz at December 01, 2005 03:21 PM (eHLUP)
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Liberal trolls are everywhere. Mention Christmas, homosexuality, muslims, abortion, or President Bush and here they all come.
If I had a blog, I would have the above mentioned topics on 24/7 just so the neo-libs could run up my site meter. I wish you libs would go find Kos, or else continue your posting at DU. Frankly, I'm bored with your dog vomit.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 01, 2005 03:41 PM (rUyw4)
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Hey jesusland joe, you're like Shrub: can't take the heat, and unable to listen to those who disagree with you.
HA!!
Posted by: tommo at December 01, 2005 03:45 PM (kmaBF)
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Jesus died so you could go shopping.
Now shut up you stupid America hating Jesus killing liberals! I wish Cheney would just get it over with and start torture camps for all these liberal sheep! Maybe a good anal fisting by the few and the proud corp will help you appreciate Jesus and Freedom!!
P.S
Merry Christmas!
Posted by: jesusland twotooth at December 01, 2005 04:23 PM (YClF7)
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tommo,
I can take the heat, I'm just bored with the same old shit day in, day out from you neo-libs. Come up with something new, right now you are like a dog that eats its own vomit, throws it up, eats it again, blah...blah...blah. It's the same old rhetoric. You libs are brain dead!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 01, 2005 04:27 PM (rUyw4)
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jesusland twotooth,
Posing is just another tired old liberal trick. More dog vomit for you libs to eat.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 01, 2005 04:32 PM (rUyw4)
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Joe,
Does that mean I make it on to the torture list?
I can take it! I've been to a few frat parties in my time!!
Praise the Lord!
Posted by: jesusland twotooth at December 01, 2005 05:04 PM (YClF7)
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twotooth,
I don't know about you making it onto the torture list, but if you would just read your own posts, man, they violate all the Geneva Convention protocols on torture. Ugh!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 01, 2005 05:19 PM (rUyw4)
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Bush's cards are much more religious than those of Clinton.
Just because he doesn't say "Christmas" doesn't mean he is against saying it.
I personally feel that it is okay to say Happy Holidays until the holiday hits. We are still a long ways from Christmas, so I have no problem with Happy Holidays. Now, about the 23rd, I will start expecting Merry Christmas though.
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2005 06:36 PM (CZ+e3)
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I know what Christmas is and what it stands for - I celebrate it as a Christian holiday.
I am confused what Happy is. I mean, there apparently is some kind of winter festivity going on with some - but doesn't it have a name? Is it some kind of snowflake or soltice type thing? I'd really like to know - is it a secret type thing? Did I miss something?
Oh well - Merry Christmas everybody!
Oh, and wow! Isn't it an incredible coincidence that the date and timeframe of this whatever event coincides with the celebration of Christmas and the birth of Jesus!
Posted by: hondo at December 01, 2005 07:23 PM (Jvmry)
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I think it is strange that you would pose the question as whether the President is "against" Christmas because he sends a religion neutral Holiday card. Yu experience abroad aside, most Christians don't want to be wished a happy Hannukah, and most Jews don't want to be wished a Merry Christmas. I believe this is an empirical fact, depsite you particular experience. So it makes perfect sense for the president to use an Old Testament quote and a relgion neutral greeting.
I'm a moderate, and I must say it is a bit strange how paranoid certain Christian groups are about the whole "war" on Chritmas (and Christians in certain circles). It's as if some of us can't recognize and take responsibility for the fact that Christians are the dominant majority in this country and conservatives are the dominant majority in the government. It is the time for Christian conservatives to take hold of the reigns and stop wih the paranoia and infighting and finger pointing(I'm mean really, President Bush "against" Christmas? Absurd.), Time to take responsibility or relinquish control. S or get off the pot.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 01, 2005 09:08 PM (J7EvK)
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And Hondo, the Birth of Jesus was not in December. It was moved to coincide with a pagan winter holiday to help convert Europeans to Christianity.
Posted by: Lazerlou at December 01, 2005 09:13 PM (J7EvK)
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*Sigh* Why doesn't anyone seem to realize that Happy Holidays started as a reference to Christmas + New Years (+ Thanksgiving, kinda)? We have three major "holidays" right in a row and, hence "Happy Holidays!" or "Tis the Season(Good lord which terrible PC liberal came up with that one? Season! Season for what, being a baby murdering Satanist?)!" I personally prefer Merry Christmas, but people and businesses can say whatever they want to say. Why is this such a big f-ing deal? And incidentally, I bought some Christmas cards at Macy's the other day and was wished a Merry Christmas by the clerk, who then cackled and said, "in hell!" before flying off on her broom to go sacrifice a few dogs to her evil goat god.
Posted by: mysteriousgypsy at December 01, 2005 09:42 PM (xQPmz)
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I know what you mean. Since you are such good friends with George W. he really should have remembered that you celebrate Christmas, and sent you the appropriate card. Must have been quite a disappointment.
Posted by: Kathleen at December 01, 2005 10:37 PM (rUds4)
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Agent Brown wishes you Happy Holidays, in the name of GAOTU.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 02, 2005 08:13 AM (fLJDr)
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lazerlou!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally, someone who knows the exact birthday of Jesus! Please tell us - scholars for nearly 2000 years have been trying to pinpoint it.
Believe the general opinion is the date is somewhere late year (eastern rites place it early new year (note all winter)-
Its called "by convention" aka mutual agreement placing it on 25 Dec - done a long long long time ago.
All cultures have holidays tied in to seasons and surprise! - they overlap! The early Germanic one revolves around the winter soltice (20/21 Dec) - your point is an old one - yeah - maybe - so - what's your point?
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 10:11 AM (Jvmry)
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I think Jesus would like for us to focus on more important issues. I'd almos be willing to bet He's glad that a war mongering tyrrant wouldn't use his name at all.
Posted by: blackshire at December 02, 2005 12:02 PM (HCMw2)
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Hondo,
My only point was that this "whatever" holiday does not really coincide with the Birth of Jesus, as you claim it does. I do not claim to know when his birth was, but if I remember it correctly it was sometime in the Spring and the Roman emperor who created the modern calendar was the one who changed it to December to facilitate conversion of Northern Europeans who were worshipping as pagans the birth of the sun, not son, already at the end of December.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 01:01 PM (pBKzg)
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Virtually every religion has some sort of celebration at or near the Winter Solstice. So what is the particular advantage of insisting that seasonal greetings specifically favor one faith over the others? Is this just motivated by a mean-spirited desire to make American Jews and other adherents of non-Christian religions feel less a part of their own country?
Posted by: trrll at December 02, 2005 01:30 PM (CKVO5)
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Lazerlou is right. Choosing the date for Christmas had nothing to do with the birthdate of Christ or any kind of "mutual agreement." It was part of a larger strategy of the Church to co-opt pre-existing holidays that revolved around pagan rituals. Such holidays also include Halloween. Also while, Easter was set according the pre-existing Jewish holiday of Passover, traditions like Easter eggs had their origins in pagan celebrations of the equinox. The Church had a long history of taking familiar pagan holidays and traditions and dressing them up in a Christian likeness. This is why the most orthodox of Christians abhor the celebrations that surround these "Christian" holidays, because their origins are not actually Christian, although many people have become convinced that they are.
Posted by: Not As Crazy As You at December 02, 2005 02:15 PM (tUL+j)
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lazerlou
You really don't know what "by convention" means do you?
Christians made the association with their holiday and Christ. So your telling them their wrong.
1) By what right do you claim to tell them their wrong? It's their beliefs, their religion, their history.
2) If your going to "challenge" THEIR date - your going to have to do better than a vague reference to some Roman Emperor and "correctly - spring?".
I give you a date agreed apon by Christians - you give me an attempt to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
trrll -
You are correct! But if you wish to celebrate the Winter Soltice, The Festival of the Snowflake, or any other "Happy" occasion - then have the freakin' courage and decency to give it a freakin' name - and stop trying to force us to accomodate you by eliminating ours!
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 02:29 PM (Jvmry)
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Hondo, if you want people to take you seriously you MUST learn the difference between "their" and "they're."
I'm not sure what your are arguing. I'm not telling anyone they are wrong. I'm just pointing out that Christ was not born in Decemeber. I believe that is a well accepted fact, even though nobody knows exactly when his real birthday was. I'm notmaking things up. Look it up.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 03:19 PM (pBKzg)
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hondo-"You are correct! But if you wish to celebrate the Winter Soltice, The Festival of the Snowflake, or any other "Happy" occasion - then have the freakin' courage and decency to give it a freakin' name - and stop trying to force us to accomodate you by eliminating ours!"
Since when is anybody forcing you to eliminate your own religious celebrations? Is anybody telling you you how to decorate your house? Is anybody censoring your Christmas cards? Is anybody coming to your church to dictate to you how you may pray? I will stand with you to resist any attempt to do that. But it is hard for me to see it as anything other than mean-spirited to take offense when a merchant--or especially, a public official--chooses to acknowledge everybody's holy days (which is, after all, what "holiday" means) without prejudice, instead of singling a particular religion out for special recognition.
Posted by: trrll at December 02, 2005 03:36 PM (CKVO5)
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Also Hondo, pleae note the difference between "your" and "you're." Public schools not so great in the Red States?
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 03:51 PM (pBKzg)
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Ha Ha
No spell check option with this blog - type fast - no preview.
Is that it? A nickel and dime grammatical analysis on pronoun utilization? My My - I was expecting something a bit more - hmmmmmmm - say creative.
Yes, an error on my part! How shocking! Therefore it must render everything I've said as irrelevant! you are obviously soooooo wise and astute!
FYI
Grammarians classify pronouns into several types, including the personal pronoun, the demonstrative pronoun, the interrogative pronoun, the indefinite pronoun, the relative pronoun, the reflexive pronoun, and the intensive pronoun. (In German it is a bitch!)
Oh, actually educated Blue State - a lil' Euro too. Actually, I'm quite educated but try not to wear it on my sleeve. Libs and left however seem to be enthralled by it, and literally "nail themselves to the cross" of their faux intellect (nail ... - ha - pardon the pun).
Anyway - back on subject. Is that the best ya got kid(s)?
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 04:20 PM (Jvmry)
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hondo,
Your(is that correct, lazerlou?) response to lazerlou lasered in on her. Haha!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 02, 2005 04:28 PM (rUyw4)
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Hondo, I wasn't noting your spelling, nor would spell chack have worked. I promise I'm a far worse speller thay you. But mixing up "you are" and "your" and "they are" and "their" is pretty bad. Just want you to seem credible to others.
Out of sheer curiosity, what is your level of education? (honestly)
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 04:39 PM (pBKzg)
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"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Thomas Jefferson.
Seriously, could we all just chill out. You guys stop trying to ban every Nativity creche in town, and you guys stop acting like "Happy Holidays" = "Allahu Akbar".
Don't you think we have bigger problems to think about?
Posted by: MegaTroopX at December 02, 2005 04:41 PM (yT/Rw)
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lazerlou,
Only an elite snob would be concerned about hondo's level of education. It's quite obvious to me that he is not only intelligent but has reached another level, referred to in the old days as being classically educated, and I am not referring to classic literature.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 02, 2005 04:52 PM (rUyw4)
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Yes jesusland, I am an elitest snob, unapologetically. I am not "concerned" with Hondo's level of education, just curious. I'm also not sure what is obvious to you is obvious to the rest of us.
It takes some very poor reasoning to jump from "Best Wishes for a Holiday Season of Hope and Happiness" to "Bush is against Christmas."
Or that secular greetings imply that people are trying to "eliminate" Christmas, as Hondo put it. It is actually very, very paranoid.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 05:08 PM (pBKzg)
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spell chack? thay?
Credible to others? Interesting - isn't that for "others" to decide based on conceptual content? I will let others decide.
Spelling???? Never really mentioned anything about spelling 'cept the opening reference to "spell check" - a generic reference of course - there are in fact several check programs that include other aspects of grammar.
The issue appears to be pronouns - proper pronoun utilization seems to be very important to you - important enough to negate content?
My education level? Higher than 6th, lower than say .. 16.
It's not important. What is important is what you believe, what you feel, what you think, what you say.
Educational levels appears to be important to you. Why? Is that how you validate yourself - and of course - invalidate others? Is it a question of "documentation" and not substance?
A liberal and their "education" - so shallow, so elitist - are soon parted.
jesusland joe!
I should get a six pack for Christmas for this! All this a thunkin' is a givin' me a hadacke!
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 05:11 PM (Jvmry)
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Well, now, lou, I wouldn't ascribe paranoid to it. Hondo and many others are just concerned that the secular greetings, as you say, are a way for many to just ignore the religious aspect of Christmas. After all, that is the "reason for the season" as they say.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 02, 2005 05:15 PM (rUyw4)
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Ok, last post.
Jesusland - Hondo and others are concerned that secular greetings do much more than "ignore" the religious aspect of Christmas. They argue that such greetings are the result of actively trying to "eliminate" Christmas itself.
And you seem to be unable to respond to the simple explanation that secular greetings are used becuse those giving them, either public figures or businesses acknowledge that other religions have holidays around the same time as Christmas.
It is the essence of paraoia.
I think the moer accurate explanation is that conservative Republican Christians are so paranoid because they have failed at advancing meaningful policy when they are the dominant religion in our country and the dominant party in our government. You would much rather feel persecuted and point fingers (even at your own awful president) than admit you have failed in your brief moment in time when you actually have the power.
To even suggest that President Bush might be "Against Christmas" speaks volumes. It is patently absurd, and that you all can't see that amazes me.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 05:33 PM (pBKzg)
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Hmm...I do believe paranoid might just apply to your latest post, lou. Nonetheless, the steak fanatic pizza is here, so one and all, Merry Christmas, and you too, lou!
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 02, 2005 05:36 PM (rUyw4)
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Merry Christmas to you too! As Jesus would note, having love in your heart for all, even your enemies, is the only thing that matters.
Posted by: lazerlou at December 02, 2005 05:42 PM (pBKzg)
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And a "Happy Winter Snowflake Festival Of the Icicles and Dancing Penquins" to you lou.
BTY
Eeveryone note - the word holiday is derived from the ol' English Holy Day - with a clear inference of religious intent. Will there be any conflict in the future over that word?
I wanna be PC and not offend anyone soooooooooo to all ...
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 05:52 PM (Jvmry)
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It's not people who shy away from referring to Christmas, it's organizations who do it, specifically corporations, who like to make money and so employ the generic "Happy Holidays" as a way to appeal to the broadest possible audience (because they're capitalist.)
And since the "shopping season" now begins in late October, it incompases several holidays, not just Christmas.
Thus...Happy Holidays!
Posted by: argexpat at December 02, 2005 05:53 PM (QKbxw)
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What holidays? Can you be more specific.
I kinda uncomfortable celebrating something "we dare not speak it's name"
Posted by: hondo at December 02, 2005 05:58 PM (Jvmry)
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Agent Smith thinks that in order to please the Armageddon Faction of the American Nationalist Party, George W. Bush deliberately declared a fatwa on Christmas to provoke the Antichrist to rear it's ugly head in Mesopotamia's Euphrates River.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 03, 2005 10:00 PM (VDGim)
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