. I dunno, call me an
. But that's just me.
Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
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This woman is a pathetic, and pitiable...tool. It takes a dark soul to mine partisan gold from a mother's grief. The number of dark souls on the Left becomes more apparent every day.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at August 10, 2005 07:01 PM (RHG+K)
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One really doesn't know what to say, except, just where in the living hell is her husband?
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2005 07:18 PM (DDXXI)
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Actually, her idiotic remarks only serve to lessen her message and credibility- and hence, the credibility of the left.
Fine by me.
Posted by: Sigmund, Carl and Alfred at August 10, 2005 07:42 PM (dHZc2)
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And I didn't think you could sink any lower. Congratulations.
Posted by: Professor Peter Von Nostrand at August 10, 2005 07:49 PM (REz6/)
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Von Nostrand is Greg or perhaps an evil reincarnation of Greg. All the Lefties don't believe in God, but they have no problems believing in such nonsense. Perhaps he is possesed by Greg. Hmmm...
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2005 07:53 PM (DDXXI)
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Von Nostrand is possessed by Kramer.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at August 10, 2005 08:11 PM (RHG+K)
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Yeah, I guess the fact that she lost a son excuses her antisemetism and relentless political activism. Let's not pick on her, that's just mean! /sarcasm
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 10, 2005 08:54 PM (JQjhA)
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Speaking out against Israel is NOT anti-Semetic.
Israel is a country who's policies are becoming more extreme.
Besides, Arabs are Semetic, too. Look it up.
Posted by: LT at August 10, 2005 09:22 PM (9sQW4)
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LT, speaking aginst Israel is not anto semitic. You are right about that. Blaming Israel for the war in Iraq is idiotic, at best.
Further, when you talk about Israel, you have to talk about the neighborhood. Do you really want to play the comparison game?
Lastly, it is true that Arabs are a Semitic people. Nevertheless, for the past couple hunderd of years, the term anti semitism has meant the dislike or hatred of Jews. Every dictionary in the worlddefines anti semitism in that manner.
Thus, your point, while merely annoying, is also irrelevant. It does however, speak volumes about you.
Posted by: Sigmund, Carl and Alfred at August 10, 2005 09:29 PM (dHZc2)
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Of course speaking out against Israel is not-necessarily antisemetic. It only usually is. And when you believe in a secret conspiracy that puts Jews in the center of world wide policy decisions....er, calling the ghost of Julias Streicher? You there Julias?
Anyway, the idea that Arabs can't be anti-Semetic is a stupid red herring. The term 'anti-Semetic' has a specific meaning and always has. It has never been applied to ALL Semetic peoples, but only to Jews. The "Arabs can't be anti-semites because they are a Semetic people" is an excuse for Arabs to be, well, antisemetic and get away with it.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 10, 2005 09:31 PM (JQjhA)
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hey Cindy, where is the smoking man, at???
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 10, 2005 10:44 PM (IJ51c)
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Actually LT, Semitic is the group of languages native to that part of the world, Hebrew and Arabic both being Semitic languages ..along with Amharic, Modern Hebrew, Akkadian, Arimaic, Phoenician, Punic and those are further divided into North West, East and South West Semitic languages. How Semitism applies to Jews (of which I am one) is found in any worthy dictionary, to wit: "a Semitic expression or idiom//ideas, cultural ideals, etc. thought of as ESSENTIALLY Jewish. [fr. Mod. L. semiticus]" It would follow that anti-Semitism applies to against or anti Jewish cultural ideals, ideas, idioms, expressions .. not to the idioms, expressions, cultural ideals, ideas of the other speakers of Semitic languages. ((It sure ain't a race issue, dearie.) You can thank good ol' ENGLISH dictionaries for the meaning attached to Semitism and anti-Semitism. Call Mr. Webster or Oxford and tell them they are wrong, will you?
Posted by: Bubbe at August 10, 2005 11:02 PM (cbAi4)
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>>>Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11.
Lady, I hope it hurts. Now go home and stop making a damn fool out of yourself.
Posted by: Carlos at August 10, 2005 11:17 PM (8e/V4)
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Sorry Rusty, but I've seen
far worse from you on this very "anti-muslim, relentlessly activist" site. And regardless of whatever conspiracy theories Sheehan may believe (the quote you provide doesn't actually suggest that she holds any... as if I care), it is just ridiculous for you to suggest that any sort of criticism of Israel, or American policy towards Isreael, equals anti-semitism. Just as criticising the U.S. government does not equate to "anti-Americanism." Criticising a state is not the same as criticising a people. And, once again,
you should know this.
Posted by: Professor Peter Von Nostrand at August 10, 2005 11:29 PM (REz6/)
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Hey Rusty, do you really know this idiot?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2005 08:31 AM (0yYS2)
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I would be willing to put up money that Mrs. Sheehan didn't hold these particular views before groups like codepink got her ear. I am often inclined to ignore the statements by grieving relatives as they are too easily influenced by overwhelming emotion. Obviously, I do not agree with her assesment of the situation.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 11, 2005 08:56 AM (jPCiN)
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Look folks, Israel is a nice boy living in a housing project neighborhood full of crackheads. Sometimes they have to take rather extreme measures to survive. Fine with me. Personally, they should have implemented the Alon plan and "transfered" the Arabs across the Jordan years ago. Israel will never, ever be secure until it controls everything west of the Jordan. And if anyone out there really, truly believes that a "Palestinian" state will live in peace with Israel....well fine, you're entitled to your delusion.
Posted by: Scott in CA at August 11, 2005 10:18 AM (MKTwl)
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Peter von Nostrand said:
"And I didn't think you could sink any lower. Congratulations."
"Sorry Rusty, but I've seen far worse from you..."
Which is it? And just how pompous can one get?
Posted by: Oyster at August 11, 2005 11:33 AM (fl6E1)
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In case you missed it, evidently her family is sick of her shit too...
From Drudge:
FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY!
Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET
The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch.
The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother:
Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks àCherie
In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement:
The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.
Sincerely,
Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.
Posted by: disgruntledinca at August 11, 2005 02:55 PM (IpG/2)
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Cindy Sheehan the new poster girl for the liberal hate Bush bunch.
Now we must figure a definition for a Sheehan. Sort of reminds me of shenanigan. Any more? You have just been sheehaned. Meaning to want attention at any cost.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2005 09:00 PM (wJPgF)
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I'm sick of this "story." Is it a publicity stunt? Yes. Is it being exploited by anti-war activists looking to further their own agenda? Yes. Is this a desperate attempt by a grieving mother who wants some answers from the man who sent her son to Iraq? Yes. Do neocons and lefties have so little to do that they have to "dig up" usenet stories and weigh in with their own abstract theories? Yes.
Left and right, I think it's pretty dumb to try and explain this woman unless you've been in her position. I don't care if you've served, I don't care if you know someone who's enlisted, I don't care if you've attend pro-war/anti-war rallies with people in her position. Unless you've lost your son/daughter in combat, you won't know where she's coming from. Maybe you've lost a family member and you had some pretty strong emotions as a result - but unless you've lost you're own child, I doubt you can really weigh in with any kind of valid opinion. Because when a parent loses a child, all bets are off. The bond between a parent and a child is, obviously, incredibly unique. And the most vocal war supporter can find themselves looking for answers they thought they knew and question the reasons why their child was sent into conflict, and the most rabid anti-war activist can suddenly find themselves looking for revenge on those that killed their child. I say again: even though you think you know how it feels, you don't. And no amount of exchanging opinions and insults is going to change a thing in any of this.
So, let's stop talking about this non-story. Enough's enough.
There's my fucking two cents, let the bashing begin.
Posted by: Venom at August 12, 2005 10:45 AM (dbxVM)
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See I told you guys that sometimes Venom makes sense.
He is finished with this story. So he wishes for everyone who contributes to the Jawa Report to stop talking about it.
As you will see he would rather everyone focus on the maybe mistaken idenity of the president of Iran. Was he a hostage taker many years ago or not? Like this story ended months ago and who gives a shit.
This in his mind is more important than the mother of a dead US Serviceman demonstrating at the President's home.
See what I mean. Sometimes he makes sense and then the liberal, moonbat takes over and it's looney tunes time.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 12, 2005 09:17 PM (0zyYw)
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"he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel." While I'm sorry for her loss, Ms. Sheehan is so wrapped up in her 15 minutes of fame, she can't (or more likely WON'T) realize how she's being manipulated by the greif pimps at MoveOn, Michael Moore, Code Pink(sounds like an association of porno actresses)and the other usual suspects. It's interesting how the left is realy starting to show their true anti-semetic colors. I wonder how many of them beleive that Pres. Bush is linked to the good old-fashioned Jewish banking conspiracy? How I wish there was such a thing. Too bad my great-great grandparents weren't let in on the ground floor of such a money laundering racket! OY, I should only be so lucky!! :-)
Posted by: Maddaddy at August 18, 2005 07:51 PM (UTcMx)
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For more about how Cindy Sheehan has lied about the PNAC Neocon/war for Israel in her email sent to ABC's 'Nightline' on her behalf, scroll down to the 'Rhetoric' paragraph of the following URL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan
Posted by: dontcowerfromthetruth at October 11, 2005 11:30 AM (sncSf)
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