July 15, 2005

Carl Rove and the Arabist Prince

By Demosophist

The more I read about the Rove/Plame/Wilson affair the more confused I get. Well actually it's becoming like an aged and blended old tawny port. POwerline makes a pretty good case that no one violated a law forbidding the "outing" of a covert CIA agent because even Joe Wilson admits that his wife wasn't a covert agent at the time that she was supposedly outed. Yeah well that makes a lot of sense. We've been investigating a crime that has Judith Miller behind bars for nondisclosure of a confidential source, when according to the principal victim's husband there couldn't have been a crime. And that chocolate frog I'm looking at might just decide to hop out the window.... Jim Lindgren clears up a few more details, and makes some suggestions about what NBC might ask Joe Wilson should they be halfway interested in getting to the bottom of things. Which, of course, they weren't. Which makes me still feel like I'm waiting for a train to Hogwart's. I thought Lundgren had at least cleared up the issue of whether Wilson's report referred to possible sales of uranium to Iraq or Iran, but then in the updates to his post he acknowledges that "Iraq" was changed to "Iran" in the final version of the story. So the same old meme produced by a simple typo is still propagating six months after the fact.

Will someone please get to the bottom of this?

1. Was a crime committed during the original leak or thereafter, and if not what the deuce are we investigating and why are we tossing people in jail?

2. Is Carl Rove an evil genius, a good genius, or an over-hyped and incompetent bumbler?

3. Was Joe Wilson lying about everything or just some things. He was obviously lying when he said his wife wasn't instrumental to his assignment to Africa and a few other things, but did he totally reverse the implications of his report in order to cast the President in a bad light?

3b. If Wilson was lying, as Jim Lindgren seems to assume, why didn't the administration (who must have been advised as to the content of his report) simply point out the mismatch between what he was saying on talk shows, and what was in his report?

4. If his report mentions Iran rather than Iraq, why wasn't Iraq mentioned? I thought that was the whole point of this Africa assignment. So why was any mention of Iraq omitted?

5. Is there any way I, as a lowly muggle, and without selling my soul, can learn to perform some of these tricks?

6. Does Valerie have a secret agent sister? (Apparently twins run in the family.)

(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia)

Posted by: Demosophist at 12:41 AM | Comments (11) | Add Comment
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1 It was BUSH!!! Gimpy - Get Boar-ed! Screw you and your skinning threats - the only thing you skinned was your third leg after joining forces with Duncan. BUSH LIES - you little weaselly, maggot-eating desert-dwelling punk - I'll be waiting... The hairy boar was standing on it's hind legs over the sweaty body of the disheveled Klansman. The boar grunted and bellowed with a rude sense of satisfaction...then it went for round nine, bristles slapping on rooster's back. Above the sound of flesh slapping together, there finally was a long thick stagnant grunt, a horrible gut sound, a sound you could smell. When the boar was done with Klanrooster, he cared not for the foaming Santorum and waddled away into the forest.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 15, 2005 05:53 AM (ScqM8)

2 Not that this really concerns me that much in the big scheme of things (like making sure my socks match my shoes) but... it just leaves me wondering... if the supposed "leak" had been a democrat would this entire situation be different? Would Bush actually kick his butt (or whatever he was quoted as saying he would do to the leak's butt)??? The only thing that irritates me about this whole thing is that people (like Rove and the President) need to think before they speak because if they don't, it will occupy my television screen for weeks and detract from my obsessive interest in the Natlee Holloway story!!!

Posted by: Linny at July 15, 2005 07:06 AM (EFx7r)

3 The Press outed the woman and the libs are furiously trying to pin it on Bush. Typical. Now matter who leaked it(liberals), no crime was committed. The chick was not undercover at the time of the leak. Case Closed.

Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 15, 2005 07:53 AM (yBHNA)

4 ItÂ’s not like giving them Rove will make the President any friends. The lefties will just get on to the next one. Who will be next to have their name used as a political slogan i.e.: Rove, Halaburton, or Delay? Just say it over and over again and it picks up steam. Pretty soon everyone on the left is chanting it and the talking heads on TV take their marching orders and sell it to the masses. Stand and fight Mr., President. The majority of America knows exactly what is going on here. We just have jobs and families so we canÂ’t or donÂ’t care to spend the time the left have to discuss this overblown bunch of flatulence.

Posted by: Brad at July 15, 2005 09:32 AM (pO1tP)

5 So... if it's not a crime... then why is the reporter in jail? Can't they only jail reporters for not revealing a source if the source has committed a crime? I'm dizzy

Posted by: Linny at July 15, 2005 02:56 PM (EFx7r)

6 Linny, take deep breaths, with your head between your knees. Miller is in jail because she refused to testify to a grand jury. If the subject matter had been Stay-Puft(TM) marshmallows and she refused to testify, she's still be in jail. Rove is not in jail because a) he's not been indicted for a crime or b) found guilty of contempt of court. Congress hasn't found him guilty of contempt yet, either. It's not really complicated, if you take the politics out of it!

Posted by: John Burgess at July 15, 2005 04:11 PM (wiywb)

7 Linny, take deep breaths, with your head between your knees. Miller is in jail because she refused to testify to a grand jury. If the subject matter had been Stay-Puft(TM) marshmallows and she refused to testify, she'd still be in jail. She is being penalized for Contempt of Court. Rove is not in jail because a) he's not been indicted for a crime or b) found guilty of contempt of court. Congress hasn't found him guilty of contempt yet, either. It's not really complicated, if you take the politics out of it!

Posted by: John Burgess at July 15, 2005 04:12 PM (wiywb)

8 DSM, I would be glad to take a close, personal interest in you, if you like.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 07:01 PM (0yYS2)

9 Downing Street Moron must be out of watermelons. He gets nervous with things gets like that. Question: Why do all liberal morons eventually get around to butt fucking and dick sucking. No fooling here. Check out posts from liberal shitheads like Greg, Butch, Baber idiot and this Downing Street Moron. Is this some sort of poor breeding? Perhaps, the way they are brought up? Just seems strange that the really foul mouthed putrid stuff it allways comes from the same government hating garbage. Proud to say I don't remember any conservative contributor saying such. Must be poor breeding as their seems to be a tie in. Check it out. You will come to the same conclusion I have.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 06:45 PM (CBNGy)

10 Soon Downing Street Moron soon.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 06:48 PM (CBNGy)

11 i love watching brainwashed conservatives babble on like everything that the "liberal evil doers" say is a lie, and everything the "god fearing republican patriots" say is the truth!! The truth is, people will believe what they want to believe. Even if Rove grew a pair of balls and addmitted to half the dirty tricks he has pulled, neo-cons and jesus freaks still wouldnt beleive he is in the worng. Why? because republicans can never be wrong, their actions are always justified!never need to apologise or admit a mistake. trying to get a republican to take responsibility for a mistake is like trying to convert a muslim extremist to christianity.....all politicians lie and cheat its just the nature of the beast. there is an enormous power struggle in this nation. our country is being chopped up into slices and served to the most shady and crooked. Democrates and Republicans use different means to the same end. the same motivations...power and money...thats what its all about....and until our politicians stop pimping out their public offices to corporations and lobbyists...we're just going to continue this downward spiral until there is no america left. many of you narrow minds may think that is impossible. but i beg to differ..we are much more fragile than most people think....oh and all you white conservative majority.....be prepared to become a minority in this country..because millions are crossing our southern borders every year...and even mexico itself has estimated at the current rate....mexicans will be the majority in america by 2010!!!...just wait till they start voting their own people into office!! you'll see a firestorm of resistance at that point! but until then republicans are loving the mexicans because they think they can control them and get the hispanic vote. see how long that lasts!! at some point there will be a "hispanic party" and republicans will have created a monster. sound far fetched? just wait and see!!!!

Posted by: alias name at July 20, 2005 09:01 AM (R9DSb)

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