. And all this time I thought it was some Rovian plot just to make Bush
like a dumbass.
Unless there is some secret backroom deal going on here (eg, Dubai insists port deal must go through or kick U.S. bases out of UAE) then it looks like the White House has the ABC Afterschool Special view of Islam: it's wrong to discriminate based on religion, mmmmmkay.
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Why does't Bush just tell everyone why this is such a good deal?
Posted by: Leatherneck at February 21, 2006 04:08 PM (D2g/j)
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Even Dhimmi Carter agrees with the port deal. What's Bush's fucking problem.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 21, 2006 04:10 PM (M3nr/)
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When Carter of Arabia is in agreement with your middle east policy, you know you are 1-wrong, and 2-not lokin them Jew people too much
Posted by: Steve Sharon at February 21, 2006 04:31 PM (L+HFR)
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This is political correctness gone amuck. One wonders what it will take for people from bottom to top to come to their senses. An atomic bomb blast might do it.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 21, 2006 04:42 PM (rUyw4)
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Proof that the A rab money DO-BUY American policy
Posted by: Steve Sharon at February 21, 2006 06:09 PM (L+HFR)
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Steve nailed it. I wonder what Bush is getting out of the deal? I always wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I see now that he is either as stupid or corrupt as the libtards have always said. God I feel sick.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 06:30 PM (0yYS2)
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I don't see what the problem is other than it is state-owned (UAE - primary shareholder) with extensive additional arab, British and German corporate investors. It already has a track record of port ops in the US going back several decades.
Carter will give his 2 cent opinion to anyone if they ask - or don't. He's irrelevant. now Hillary is another thing ... a lot of people here seem eager to jump into bed with her and cuddle up. Why is that?
Posted by: hondo at February 21, 2006 07:14 PM (fyKFC)
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Bush has never used his Veto power. If he chooses this time to do it, I think there is enough bipartisan opposition to overturn it. Several democrats have already opposed it, as well as some
republicans, like Bill Frist.
Posted by: The Gentle Cricket at February 21, 2006 07:54 PM (USZUJ)
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It is odd. However right now Bush looks like the Supporter of UAE good for his perception abroad. If shot down it will be by popular dissent. Thus absolving W of the blame for the block abroad(UAE). Also it shows that the American people are involved and are mistrusting the Arab world because of terror. Thus providing UAE, who has stated oil is finite and they want to diversify, motivation to fight terror in order to accomplish the stated goal of entering the new investor economy and moving away from oil as the lone source of their economy. Other than that ???
More to this than meets the eye methinks(hopes) otherwise it's just stupid.
Posted by: Howie at February 21, 2006 08:09 PM (D3+20)
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This whole deal scares the crap out of me. Love the Bush-man
but he has lost his mind on this one!
Posted by: Mighty Whitey at February 21, 2006 08:16 PM (LxONe)
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In the words of the immortal P.J. O'Rourke: "WTF??? I mean, WTF'n F???"
Posted by: Eman at February 21, 2006 08:19 PM (c/4ax)
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If Bush does veto the legislation blocking the port deal, it's going to overturned by congress. That will result in Bush' political incineration. He's going to torpedo every republican running for office in '06 and probably '08.
You know what's funny. I don't think there are too many companies worldwide that can run an operation like this and Halliburton is one of them.. LOL. Can you just imagine?
Posted by: Richard at February 21, 2006 08:40 PM (7KF8r)
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Watched Baltimores Mayor Martin O'Malley tear into the Bush Admin, and watched the republican Gov of MD weasel yesterday. Today, both are on the same page..polls rule?
You know.. Michael Moore was right about the Saudi connection. I thought it was just blah blah, but you know... he's right. ( and I thought Farenheit 9-11 was only entertainment..who knew? )
Posted by: BlackCat at February 21, 2006 08:40 PM (oy596)
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Hondo.. the problem is that the UAE has a very checkered past and has been involved in financing islamfascist terror infrastructure. The idea of giving these guys management control of our ports is ludicrous.
Posted by: Richard at February 21, 2006 08:46 PM (7KF8r)
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Individuals in country - yes - UAE Govt - no. This is a state-owned multi-national partnership corporation that has been operating ports around the world (and several already here in USA) for several decades. UAE and corporation have got a clean slate and record - so what's the beef?
I work in and around port facilities - many are foreign operated. I hope no one here is dumb enough to think they are going to replace hundreds if not thousands of American port workers with Pakis with green cards! The workforce remains the same with the addition of possibly a few middle and upper level execs.
Posted by: hondo at February 21, 2006 11:19 PM (fyKFC)
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correction - no current port terminal ops here - confused Corp with Dubai Shipping which is a major world freight carrier and I believe a seperate part of the corporation. Bulk of their ops are in Asia (far east) and big competitor with Chinese & S. Koreans. Corporate board and Co Ops Global heavy with ... Brits.
Posted by: hondo at February 22, 2006 02:48 AM (fyKFC)
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Having thought about it, maybe he does have a plan. He used Harriet Myers as a stalking horse to galvanize his base into demanding a real qualified conservative justice, and we got one, more or less. Now, he won't be running for re-election, and neither will anyone in his administration be running, with the possible exception of Condi, so maybe he's using himself as a stalking horse by committing this outrageous act to get us all wound up. He is so unpopular with so many swing voters, and conservatives, that he may be giving strong Republicans a chance to come out and stand up for us. The dhimmicraps certainly aren't missing the opportunity to expose this lunacy for what it is, so maybe they will be forced to start acting like our compatriots again, instead of our enemies. But then, if they do that, we will have a harder time purging them when the war comes to our streets. Damn.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 22, 2006 05:37 AM (0yYS2)
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I still can't believe it. People are allowing their attention to be diverted from the most important issue regarding this deal.
Yes, there are obvious irregularities and "conflicts of interest" involved, in this little deal really, which are of concern surely. These are sides issues of less importance though, in comparison to the fact that ownership or control, when not both, of our entire infrastructure has already been sold to foreign corporations.
It is not just our seaports which have been sold off over the last four Presidential administrations. If only that were all there is to it. No, also our airports, railways system, trucking companies, highways and toll roads, bridges, hospitals, national retail chains, shipping companies, and even most of what little domestic industrial capacity left here to us in the US, have already been sold off.
For whatever reason, whether by design or by accident, the public has become aware of some of this because of the DPW of the UAR Ports deal. The electronic media however has not told even half the story. For example DPW is not buying control of a mere 6 ports, but 21 ports in fact.
Thus far media coverage has focused on the sensationalist possibilities, which I am certain the Bush admin, both can and will put to rest as they proceed with the deal.
Media coverage is also making this a very sensationalized partisan issue. Clearly however both US Parties have been fully complicit all along, in selling control and ownership of our entire infrastructure, to the multinational corporate alliance.
This same global confederation of Big Corps, doing all the buying, has no loyalty to any nation state. In fact this multinational corporate alliance, is becoming more powerful in wealth (the one true power) than all national governments put together, and they are doing it through the buying of the infrastructure within all nations, everywhere, not just here in the US.
Well what can we expect of the media? It too is owned and controlled by, the very same multinational corporate alliance.
Posted by: Natasha at February 28, 2006 01:53 PM (i6py+)
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John Buchanan, lamented Clinton doing the same thing, back when Bill was President.
{excerpted under fair use]
A Chinese Naval Base -- at Long Beach
by Patrick J. Buchanan
March 13, 1997
"And last year, Johnny Chung, who gave $366,000 to the Democratic National Committee, showed up for a Clinton radio broadcast at the White House, with six Chinese in tow, including an adviser of Cosco. The president begged off being photographed with his guests, which raises a question: If Bill Clinton is leery of being seen with these characters, why is he giving them a Long Beach naval base?...
Does anyone care about national security anymore?"
Read the rest @
http://www.buchanan.org/pa-97-0313.html
[end excerpt]
As you can see the selling off of America is not a partisan issue. Bush too is selling off our infrastructure. But why would a supposed conservative, hell bent on National Security and improving our economy, sell off our essential infrastructure? Really, it doesn't matter what foreign outfit he sells them to, or which party is involved in this sort of thing now, obviously.
The question really is why. Bush does not need the money, and it didn't go to him. I guess. So what the hell is going on? We shall hear the official story, endlessly ad nauseam, whether we wish to or not. So lets take a look at it from another perspective also.
Could globalization have anything to do with this, and does that have anything to with Globalism? Of course it does. What the hell is Globalism, and who are these guys anyway? Now that is THE question, and here is the answer.
George W Bush, like his father, is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, as are both Bill and Hillary Clinton, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove, Donnie Rumsfeld, and yes of course John Kerry and other phony liberals and phony conservatives.
WHAT THE HELL!? WHO ARE THESE GUYS?
The Council on Foreign Relations strongly advocates such deals, referring to the practice as "proactive global interdependence", touting it also as a necessary step toward WORLD GOVERNMENT. That's right. the CFR is a Globalist organization. They want a world government, 'and' they want to 'be' that world government.
How could they ever hope to accomplish this?! Well, nobody is stopping them, and they can certainly afford it, because "they" are also BIG OIL not just here in the US but everywhere on earth. Now that is some serious economic power right there.
The CFR along with the Bilderburg Group seems to be the headship of globalization, and they have long advocated "Corporate Powerbuilding" as a means to outstrip governments in wealth, in order to then subvert governments everywhere, through direct economic influence. It sure seems to be working doesn't it?
Oh by the way. Did I mention that Bush Jr and Sr, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Carl Rove, John Kerry, and others you have heard of recently, are also members of the Bilderburg Group? SURPRISE! They are! So is the owner of FOX and many other media owners, major newscasters, and yes even some cute and fuzzy pundits are members too. Hello, Rush? Is that why you are so well fed?
How could it even be possible, for this group of super wealthy corporate heads 'and' heads of state the world over, to ever hope to take over governments all over the world? Can they do it?
Well obviously, they have so much money now, they can both buy the infrastructure 'and' the political cooperation necessary to that possible. In effect they are buying the world as we speak. Both Clinton and Bush, and Reagan and Carter, and Ford, and others, have been selling our nation all along, like, well, like hotcakes. How does that make you feel?
Wont it be wonderful?! Imagine the same ethic displayed by EXXON, McDonalds, "The Good Guys", WAL-MART and that place you slave at, applied mercilessly on a global scale without the government or civil restrictions now protecting you. Wont it be great?!
Do you think maybe they (repubs and dems alike), got us all so divided and blinded with partisan squabbling, thanks Rush, that we didn't notice what they were up to in secret behind our backs?
Ya think? I mean do you think at all? Does anybody think anymore?
"Fascism should more rightly be called corporatism, as it is the merging of State and Corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
Posted by: Natasha at February 28, 2006 02:17 PM (i6py+)
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