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I'm going to make this an open comment thread. I would like to know what the Jawa faithful have to say about it.
Posted by: See-Dubya at October 19, 2005 11:44 PM (6S0VS)
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Anyone over the age of 12 shouldn't be called 'Scooter.'
Posted by: Mike at October 20, 2005 05:26 AM (ywZa8)
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If it turns out that all Schaffer says (and others) is true, then they can't continue to blame 9/11 on Bush and Condi's "bumbling incompetence" and inability to "connect the dots". If true then the blame would lie squarely with a long standing problem in the defence hierarchy. The divulgence of Able Danger fits in with the revelations after 9/11 that these departments (CIA, FBI, etc.) were not communicating - even worse than we thought. It can't simply be ignored now and be portrayed as a new problem that came about only since the Bush Admin.
These petty accusations and threats against Schaffer are astounding though and instead of using the opportunity to clean out a rat's nest the pompous bureaucrats at the Pentagon are sweating under their collars and bungling this badly. Wheldon was right. It's become a big CYA game.
Posted by: Oyster at October 20, 2005 06:18 AM (YudAC)
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Able Danger? what's that - - can't we just watch some more footage of Natalie Holloway?
Posted by: dave at October 20, 2005 07:39 AM (CcXvt)
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Well, it looks like the case of the missing rats at the Ohio Statehouse has been solved. They all moved over to the Dept. of Defense.
It's looking more and more like Clinton knew about Atta and his gang prior to the 9/11 attacks. There is a bomb ready to explode here, and the truth needs to come out. Let the pieces fall where they may.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 20, 2005 10:19 AM (rUyw4)
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JJ: There are still far too many Clinton loyalists in the Pentagon. It's not like they clean house and hire all new people as each administration begins. We need some really big cats!
Posted by: Oyster at October 20, 2005 10:44 AM (fl6E1)
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It's funny what a full-tilt rant by Weldon on the empty floor of the House can do to push an issue into view. He's even contemplating resigning over the matter if the DIA can't stop badmouthing Shaffer and pressing bogus/trumped up charges against him.
Call me skeptical over whether Weldon would actually resign, but the underlying issue is deadly serious. What did Able Danger know and why was the information not provided to those who could/should have acted on it?
Posted by: lawhawk at October 20, 2005 11:37 AM (eppTH)
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This could become the Watergate level event of our age, if the press doesn't manage to bury it under missing girls and seasonal weather, which they will try very hard to do, considering that it can only exonerate Bush.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 20, 2005 03:58 PM (0yYS2)
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I don't know. Being a commom sense middler from the midwest I'm more interested in what are we going to do. This turn to politics this and politics that of personal destruction and noise making just don't register with me. the last few weeks have been all games. Just noise to me. Harriet, Able Danger, Plame, Delay it's all the politics of blame and that favorite word accountability. Bores me to death. I feel and election coming on in about 12 months which means nothing will make any sense for the next year. Politics rarely solves much that does not have to be solved again two to four years later. For instance Reagan cut taxes to choke the gov't. Bush did the same. Another thing they have in common. Both left the spending problem of that equation to the next guy. So I'm more into practical every day ideas to make things better not that we will get that.
Posted by: Howie at October 20, 2005 04:51 PM (D3+20)
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I sense a scandal of monumental proportions here. I think there are many more people involved here than what we can possibly imagine.
But to think about all the lives wasted, the murder of our citizens, the cost of the cleanup, the loss of prestige, and the spiritual hole left in NYC and the US just makes me sick.
When I think about the technology Clinton transferred to China, the loss in Somalia where we had superior forces, and the general decline of our armed forces during the Clinton Presidency I see why we are in the mess we are in. Before all you liberals start on Bush, believe me, I'm very disappointed in him, too.
With Clinton gutting the military, and Bush letting Rumsfeld bungle the Iraqi invasion, the jihadis think they can take over the Western world. Whether they can or not does not matter, the fact that they think they can will now produce a series of gut check little conflicts that will test the resolve of all the peoples of the World who desire to live in a modern world.
If you want to see what the Islamists want, look at Darfur, where looting, rape, murder, and slavery are the theme. Is that what you liberals want? Well, that is what you will get if you don't change your thinking pretty damn quick!
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 20, 2005 06:31 PM (rUyw4)
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I keep an Able Danger blog roll at www.qtmonster.com. I just posted a transcript of Congressman Curt Weldon's interview today on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
Posted by: vadkins at October 20, 2005 10:54 PM (BPcQE)
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Notwithstanding the implications of Able Danger, it needs to be remembered that Ashcroft turned down requests for counterterrorism funding by the FBI on September 10, 2001.
Posted by: StormWarning at October 21, 2005 05:09 AM (85Vr/)
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It seems to me that most people are interesteds in promoting their political beliefs..I am a Liberal Democrat but that does not stop me from putting America first..if there was and is going on in this Able Danger investigation that provess that the Bush and Clinton Pentagon has been covering up and doing damage to America, it should be exposed and cleaned up..no matter who it hurts!
Posted by: louise starr at October 22, 2005 12:54 PM (Zl2Qs)
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