1 Very good news. A relative is going over there soon and this is one less freedom fighter with whom he has to deal.

2 YBP: Wish them best of luck for me will ya.

3 >>>"Numerous reports indicated he wore a suicide vest 24 hours a day and stated that he would never surrender. Instead, Talha gave up without a fight," Alston said." That's because these people aren't freedom fighters, they're cowards. They'll send other people's kids to blow themselves up, but not their own kids, and heaven forbid they go themselves. These are the people idiotic muslims all over the world admire.

4 Rusty, read you every day and have never commented, but have to say I have a problem with you referring to suicide (or homicide, which they are) bombers as "brave".

5 Howie: Will do, thanks.

6 Megan : I can assure you it's to point out the cowardice of the leader not the bravery of fools.

7 Megan, Point well taken, but it is bravery nonetheless. It's the problem we have in our culture that we believe many good characteristics have some sort of inherent good quality to them. I do not. Bravery in the pursuit of evil is evil, yet remains bravery.

8 Yeah Megan, Like "good gay" and "bad gay".

9 My husband is a US soldier in Iraq and right or wrong, I refuse to accept those out to kill him as brave. I just refuse.

10 In any conflict, there is an overall right side and an overall wrong side. To say there can't be (misguided) bravery on the overall wrong side is tantamount to saying that there couldn't be cowarice on the overall good side. I know, Osama--VERY black and white.

11 The Nazi SS troopers were extremely brave, and extremely evil. A terrible combination.

12 Megan has a point though, some (parts) of these guys are found cuffed to the wheel. I hope that your husband comes home to you safely. Best of luck.

13 Thank you for the well wishes, Howie. I really appreciate it.

14 Carlos, from his Mountain of Wisdom, wrote: "That's because these people aren't freedom fighters, they're cowards." Which is why liberals love them so. Birds of a feather and all that... "They'll send other people's kids to blow themselves up, but not their own kids, and heaven forbid they go themselves." Kinda like Dhimmicrat politicians. "These are the people idiotic muslims all over the world admire." And liberals too, they just adore them, especially Michael Moore.

15 Megan: You are quite welcome.

16 First to Megan and YBP, I to hope that not only do yours, but all of our troops will come home safe, well, and whole. To IM, who are you calling a coward. I am an avowed liberal, and I am far from being a coward. I served in both the US Army and the US Marine Corp. Both Robert and John Kennedy were Dem Liberals and both showed more courage then you hiding by a key board. Also, JFK served himself in the military and did not get his daddy, to get him out of the military when it cramped his partying time. As for admiring Muslims, I admire them as much as I do the Catholics. Some are good people, most are your average joes, a few are evil incarnate, while a very few are heaven on earth. This I believe goes for most religions, cultures, and races. What we really need to get rid of in this world is fanatics. The so stupidly blind idiots who believe what they will and will and can not entertain a new idea. So next before you go off lumping all liberals as cowards and now good, you should look at youself first.

17 Two corrections, it should be too, not to. and no good not now good.

18 Butch: Thanks for your well wishes. Glad to hear that all Catholics are not condemned by you! As a practicing Catholic, I can't admire all religions, or else, out of conscince, I'd have to join them all. IM, who states that he is an athiest, should have more in common with you, but we've found common ground in wishing our country to prevail over terrosts who wish to kill non-combatants and combatants alike. I think you fit in with this position, no?

19 YBP, My beliefs are really quite simple. The main tenet of my belief comes from the first two words of the Lord’s Prayer, “Our Father”. I truly believe that there is a supreme being that created all of us on earth. (To much logical and specifics laws to be random.) I believe we all pray to the same god but uses different methods and names. And as any caring father loves each of his children differently but the same, so does God. As a loving and caring God, I do believe that all of us will eventually get to heaven. Now some of us will be “grounded” in Purgatory a lot longer than others, but I can't see God casting out a soul for ever. I admit the God I believe in has a lot more love than I ever could, but that is why he is God and I am just a soul trying to live and learn. Now I know there are probably going be many who state that Hitler and Stalin don’t deserve to go to heaven. And being Mortal like everyone else, I happen to agree. But I then think of a devoted father who has a serial killer as a son. Even though the father may hate what the son has done, will he stop loving his son? And if this father could love him, what would God do? So although I think we will all eventually end up in heaven, some may get just one or two smacks with a bamboo cane, while others will receive 20 or 6 millions.

20 Butch: Purgatory! More common gound! I agree that there are different names for peoples gods, but I don't believe they are all the same god. They can't all be right. God (I'm speaking as a Catholic) states that He is a God of order. The various practices of religion do not lend themselves to order, as they are oftewn at odds with each other and in many areas, vastly contradict each other. The Bible states that indeed some go to "eternal hellfire," so Christians--and I'm not saying that's what you are or that's what you say you are--must believe that some people send themselves there. God doesn't send them. They send themselves by wanting to be their own god. He offers forgiveness and salvation to those who want it. Some people don't. But we can repent and make things right as long as it's not too late. Reagrding Hitler or Stalin--my own opinion is that it's doubtful they "saw the light" in time, but it's just my opinion. I may be wrong. I may end up there, too. All we can do is keep trying to do the right thing. The Catholic Church doesn't teach that any specific person is in hell. Cool to discuss things with you. Hey, you are the same "Butch" that sometimes was verbally sparring with Greyrooster, yes?

21 Yes, its me.

22 Welcome back, friend. Hey, I honestly think that you guys got off to a bad start with SOMETHING someone said and just kept at it. You probably have a few things in common with him. We all might, to some degree. I don't think ANY people on this board are carbon-copies. That would be frightening!

23 I take issue with the bravery comment about the suicide bombers. It would be brave if they didn't believe they were going to a lustful paradise full of free booze and unattended children, but as it is, they're just pathetic losers who've been duped by a psychopathic ideology. Horatio at the bridge was brave because he stood alone against an army and was willing to fight to the bitter end. The suicide bomber's way is the way of the coward. Of course, this goes a long way to explain why liberals love them so much, they are cowards too. This also explain why muslims and liberals hate Jooooooooooos. The Jooooooooooos have always been a brave people, persevering in the face of adversity, and it is the nature of the coward to hate the brave.

24 Bitch, er, Butch, in a fit of near-lucidity, wrote: "To IM, who are you calling a coward. I am an avowed liberal, and I am far from being a coward. I served in both the US Army and the US Marine Corp." Let's see, where to begin... First, an "avowed" liberal would not likely serve in the Army and Marine "Corp", but I'll bite; name your MOS's duty stations, dates of service, etc.. By the way, you misspelled Corps, dumbass. Faux pas? I don't think so, no Marine would ever, ever, EVER, misspell that. Unless he was a complete dumbass. "Both Robert and John Kennedy were Dem Liberals and both showed more courage then you hiding by a key board." First, the word is "than", not "then", moron. Who learned you yer English? Second, they were hardly courageous, as neither distinguished themselves in any way. Except for John, who was possibly the most incompetent boat commander in naval history, getting his small, fast PT boat run over by a Japanese destroyer. invoking the Kennedys is hardly the way to impress anyone with a knowledge of history. They were New England white trash whose dad made his money as a bootlegger. Hardly a noble pedigree. "Also, JFK served himself in the military and did not get his daddy, to get him out of the military when it cramped his partying time." No, his dad just had to buy him a commission because he was a FAILURE as a naval officer, so the Navy put him in the one place where he could have a command without getting too many of his people killed. "As for admiring Muslims, I admire them as much as I do the Catholics." And therein lies part of your problem. I'm an atheist myself, but I would rather live nextdoor to the Vatican than a hundred miles from a muslim. Catholics are less likely to spontaneously explode. "Some are good people, most are your average joes, a few are evil incarnate, while a very few are heaven on earth." True, but can you tell the ones that want to kill you from the ones that simply like the idea of killing you? "This I believe goes for most religions, cultures, and races." Such a bold statement. "What we really need to get rid of in this world is fanatics." Hence the war on terror. "The so stupidly blind idiots who believe what they will and will and can not entertain a new idea." They're called "liberals", ironically enough. "So next before you go off lumping all liberals as cowards and now good, you should look at youself first." Look at myself? Okay. I see a veteran with ten-years of service who loves his country and all peaceful people, and hates any who would harm his country or any innocent people. Now your turn. Do you see someone who has bought into a twisted idology where black is white and emotion overrules reason? 'Cause that's what we see. Either you support terrorism or you don't. If you don't, then stop trying to help them, because your actions belie your true loyalties.

25 Impedance Maximus, where shall we start? Probably the same one who taught you yours, “nextdoor”, “youself”. I wrote my post at quitting time, and I admit I was in a bit of a hurry. So what is your excuse Ignorant Maximus? As for my credentials, I served in the US Army from July of 82 – July of 84. Boot camp at Fort Sill, and stationed at Bamburg, Germany with the 1/75th field artillery. I started off in Charlie battery then move to HQ when I became XO driver. For more proof, 1/75 was a self propelled 8” artillery unit. With HE rounds weighing 200 lbs and powder weighing in around 100. I admit, the best shape I have ever been in was due to toting those rounds around. As for the Marine Corps, I started to boot camp in May of 1986, at San Diego, aka a Hollywood Marine. I was what was called a data dink, which is what I do today, and that is program computers. (So once again I spend over 8 hours a day writing in short hand code and languages not 100% English. What is your excuse for your poor English skills again?) I served 3 years in Agony, Ga. (aka Albany), the Marine Corps Supply base. I then went to Okinawa, by way of Alaska with the great stuff polar bear in the airport, in April of 1989. I was there for the full 365 days, with only one exception. I was in the Philippines at Suebic Bay (spelling?) for 3 months. It was only to be a two week exercise, but the natives got restless and rebelled, so our mission was cancelled. This was during December of 1989. I was station at Camp Kinser, with the derelict tanker run aground. As for both Robert and John, they have far more courage then the booze guzzling, drug taking occupant who sits the greatest seat of the world. Robert distinguished himself by going after the mob, and that is what got him killed, and John for at least going out in his boat against real enemies. Now Bush, not only go against people, like his pop, but didn’t bother to even go up at all. As for pedigree’s, who’s one father does not determine the amount of courage one will have. Once again, which one is a better example of courage and a patriot, one who gets his parents to get him into the military or one who gets his parents to get him out. As for impressing some one who knows history, well it is only to obvious you are not one who does. I still remember you lame post about WWI. You did not get anything right on it. So don’t even consider yourself to be EVEN “Summertime” history buff. As for my admiring Muslims, or any other religion, I see you can at least see the truth that I see, and that is Every race, religion, culture, and creed, have their Saints and Satans. This statement is not that bold, it is only obvious. It is the clueless morons who can’t see that. And when I said we should get rid of all fanatics, which I defined as those who refuses to even listen to any other view but their own, the cleansing should go for not only Muslims, but Christians, Jews, Blacks, Whites, Men and women. Anyone who is to stupid to at least listen to a view point, should be culled out to improve the human gene pool. I am not saying you have to agree, but everyone should at least listen. Once again you error Idiot Maximus, those who will not and can not entertain a new idea would be consider a conservative, because they fear everything, good or bad, that changes the status quo. So lets look at you, Illogical Maximus, you stated “I see a veteran with ten-years of service who loves his country and all peaceful people, and hates any who would harm his country or any innocent people”, and I point out innocent people part. You would have us kill all Muslims, even children, because you can’t tell who are the terrorist and who are not. Oh, I forgot according to you, all Muslims are terrorist or want to be terrorist right? “but can you tell the ones that want to kill you from the ones that simply like the idea of killing you?” As for emotion over ruling reason, I believe that is the right wing domain: It is good to kill an INCAPACTIATED combatant. It is good to kill all Muslims, because some commit atrocities. It is good to torture prisoners, because we can get some information. It is good to make new laws and but into clearly state rights, because we don’t like what is happening to the body of a woman who has left the building 15 years ago. It is okay to deny the right of two citizens based solely on their sex. It is okay to go against almost everything in the Constitution, because we are making a better place to live, for the Bush’s cronies. As for my supporting terrorism, I never have and never will, but I do support “TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY”. That means the even filthy scum sucking terrorist should receive full protection of the Law. The reason for that, which you terrorphobes (literary licenses) tend to forget, is not for them, but for us. If we let the law slide on this issue, and that, soon we will not longer have any laws at all. That is the price of having a truly free society. As for the military we have in the field right now, and those who did serve, I give them my full support. It is the man that is their Commander in Chief, that I hold in contempt.

26 Errat sheet for last post . should read "not only did he not go against people, like his pop" not longer should be no longer