March 27, 2006
Tensions Deepen Within Iran
From the
Washington Post, indications that the mullahs have gone too far:
TEHRAN -- Nine months after the election of hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president, Iranian politics has shifted so sharply to the right that some traditional conservatives are warning of the dangers of radicalism.
With reformists sidelined and Ahmadinejad setting a strident new tone on the global stage, figures from the extreme right of Iran's political spectrum are defining the terms of political debate in the country. In remarks that set off a domestic firestorm, a senior cleric close to the new president suggested in January that Iranian voters were largely irrelevant because the government requires only the approval of God.
These people are absolutely correct to be concerned with the direction Iran has taken, but are Ahmadinejad and the mullahs too far around the bend to listen?
Now is the time to make the Iranian people understand clearly what their leaders are monkeying with, and perhaps to make Russia and Red China question the wisdom of sucking up to the current regime.
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Not to nitpick, but if even Iranians say there's a danger of their government swinging towards radicalism, then just how would they have described them
before Imadinnerjacket was elected? Moderate? Is there even and Arabic word with equivalent meaning to the English word "moderate"?
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 05:32 AM (YudAC)
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It's about time to start massing troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, and get a couple more carrier battle groups in the Indian Ocean.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 27, 2006 05:59 AM (0yYS2)
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One wonders how this mess in Iran will play out. I think there is a faction, oyster, in Iran, that while not moderate nonetheless realizes the consequences of having a madman as the maximum leader.
I say be patient. I think this guy has overplayed his hand and will be cast aside in the near future. I may be wrong, but that is my counsel. But also keep a big stick handy in case we need it.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 27, 2006 08:21 AM (rUyw4)
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I am not sure that the people of Iran would welcome us with flowers and candy. I am also not sure if the American people have the will to try to effect another regime change. One thing I am sure of is that an invasion of Iran would drive the price of oil to perhaps 100 dollars per barrel. Good for the oil companies, and people who derive their incomes from the price of energy, but not so good for the rest of us.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 27, 2006 09:06 AM (TcoRJ)
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As far as their push toward fanaticism, I'm torn between a decision to invade and a decision to clandestinely support an insurrection by the people in Iran as a way to effect change in their regime, so I think JJ's suggestion is best for now in that regard.
As far as their acquisition of nuclear weapons - I just don't know what is the proper approach. I'd venture to guess that if we invade on the pretext of averting their acquisition of nuclear power/weapons the Iranian street would have a very different reaction than if it were on the pretext that they are practicing extreme human rights abuses. Afterall, what we hear from the Iranian government's opposition is all based on the lack of liberties afforded to their people. You don't hear the Iranian street complaining about their nuclear program.
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 09:59 AM (V9juS)
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Since john ryan and his co-conspirators in the DNC/MSM have done such a bang-up job crushing the American people's will, I suggest that instead of invading we take out the Iranian theocracy with tactical nukes.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 27, 2006 10:03 AM (RHG+K)
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Actually, John, an invasion or attack on Iran would likely drive the price of crude to more like 120-140 dollars a barrel. As someone who works in the oil and gas industry, I can tell you that these are busy and exciting times, as we are drilling and leasing at levels I have never seen before.
The company I work for is small(2400 bpd production), but we are in the process of drilling 14 oil wells this year in Texas and Arkansas, and several natural gas wells in Alabama and Mississippi. We are also involved in a big new natural gas discovery in Arkansas, and with our increased revenue we intend to more fully exploit an area where we have made a significant oil find.
What I am trying to say here is that increased prices also stimulate more production here in the US, but most of us in the industry would prefer lower but steady prices. And more drilling domestically, including Alaska. We must, and I can't say this strongly enough, MUST end our reliance on energy supplies from the Middle East.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 27, 2006 10:14 AM (rUyw4)
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JJ I saw a double or triple section derick rig up yesterday. I'm thinking of doing some pics and a post on it. we generally don't get the greens stinky light sweet crude in the SI basin but I do know of one well like that it's stinky. Most of what we get does to other products besides fuel or as I understand the darker less stinky stuff is favored for other stuff. More Pump jacks are busy and I saw a new pump where a small rig had been on the way to St Louis the other day. It's been a long time.
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 10:36 AM (D3+20)
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Oil companies make money and these jobs are off again off again with few benefits but when the guys are working it pays good cash money. As a rule the evil oil companies pay pretty good as far as the cash money part.
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As a third generation oil and gas kid, it is refreshing to hear you guys talk about all the new drilling. Most Americans don't understand that there are millions of mom & pop royalty owners who are living out a meager retirement on American-owned lease royalties or investments. If the price goes over $100 a barrel because of Iran, it won't hurt my feelings any! And because most of these small royalty owners live in energy-rich red states, the liberals and media give us and the companies no end of grief; even though what we have represents independence from the Arab oil empires.
Posted by: Veritas Regina at March 27, 2006 12:19 PM (jXE2n)
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Fine! If we are going to bomb them into the stone age with more of our tax money, I want something taken to pay us back. A few oil wells off shore would do.
Do they have anything elce we could take, and sell?
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March 26, 2006
Gall
Half a million marched in Los Angeles, demanding, in effect, the end of the rule of law in the United States, at least as it applies to illegally entering the country. From the
Associated Press via
The Drudge Report:
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Thousands of immigration advocates marched through downtown Los Angeles in one of the largest demonstrations for any cause in recent U.S. history.
More than 500,000 protesters - demanding that Congress abandon attempts to make illegal immigration a felony and to build more walls along the border - surprised police who estimated the crowd size using aerial photographs and other techniques, police Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr. said.
Wearing white T-shirts to symbolize peace, the demonstrators chanted "Mexico!" "USA!" and "Si se puede," an old Mexican-American civil rights shout that means "Yes, we can."
Violating this country's laws by entering illegally, seeking covert employment from criminal US citizens, evading taxes while consuming the services those taxes are meant to provide...then brazenly marching
en masse in cities all over the country you have victimized, shouting slogans in a foreign language, with the purpose of subverting its political process takes...gall.
I fault the Federal government for not having the Immigration and Naturalization Service aggressively checking citizenship at all of these insurrections. Each and every one of the estimated 11.5 million illegal aliens within our borders represents a failure of the government to enforce the laws of the nation.
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The INS is now BICE.
We don't have enough ICE agents to arrest illegal aliens at these protests.
Which is part of the problem. Because of Bush, the GOP, the Dems, and various other actors, we now have millions of illegal aliens here and we have to deal with them in some way.
What if they don't get what they want? Will they riot?
If we allow millions more illegal aliens or "guest" workers in the U.S., won't we not only have future marches but they'll be even bigger?
Have we not only lost control of our borders but of our interior as well?
Will our "leaders" capitulate to the demands of these foreign citizens?
Our safest solution in this case is to back away slowly: start enforcing our laws and start reducing the numbers of foreign citizens here. Otherwise, this is going to only get much worse.
Please write to your Senators and other reps demanding that they do what's in America's best interests.
Posted by: TLB at March 26, 2006 03:18 PM (vyK5U)
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This stuff needs to be nipped in the bud NOW. It will only be tougher later. And the marches will be bigger. I read some of the quotes from these people and it made my blood boil. One guy uttered, "I am in my homeland". I've got news for him. This is MY homeland and I'll fight to keep it. This aint Mexico. They've already closed 5 emergency rooms here in L.A. because illegals are using them for primary healthcare. And believe me, in L.A. we need LOTS of emergency rooms. The situation is way out of hand.
Posted by: Richard at March 26, 2006 03:28 PM (7KF8r)
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One of the statements of the illegal aliens was; the United States is a country for everyone who wants to come here, and this is a free World, so we should be able to come and go as they please.
Friends, I have nothing against Hispanics who come here wanting a better life. But, they are here in violation of the law, they are using services that they in no way have paid for, and they pay no income and property taxes. They drive without having a license and cannot read signs in English.
If the US is to survive as a nation, this has to be stopped. And before you say that Mexicans are only doing jobs that white people don't want to do, the truth is that Mexicans are doing jobs most Americans won't do at the wages that are being offered. This influx of foreign workers is driving down wages, but do the Democrats or Republicans either one care? No, I guess not.
Both seek short term gains at the long term expense of the nation. Besides, there are enough people here. We have to stop somewhere, or do we want a billion people here? Or two billion? Where does it stop?
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 03:38 PM (rUyw4)
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Soon (if not already) they will be here in enough numbers to basically hold both parties hostage. And they will determine what our country's immigration policies will be. Essentially, you can kiss the souther border goodbye.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 05:18 PM (8e/V4)
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As someone who very much wants to someday live in the United States, I can sympathise with anyone who wants to emmigrate, for whatever reason, be it economic or social. Illegal immigration, regardless of the nationalities involved makes me furious simply because illegal immigrants take a dump on the rest of us who take the time to go through the proper, lengthy channels. Every person who crosses a border illegally, leaves a stain on their countrymen that forever damns them to be viewed with suspicion at the immigration desk - I can testify as to how lousy it feels for just a visit, to have to justify why I should be let in and to prove that I intend to leave. Yet I can never fault a government for wanting to protect its territory. I don't care how honest or hardworking you claim to be, sneaking across the border is not your right - but it is the right of the government to send you back.
Posted by: Graeme at March 26, 2006 05:57 PM (VwhTY)
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I belive i can sum this up witha Quote from a popular Sci-fi TV series.
"The avalanche has already started, it is to late for the pebbles to vote."
Posted by: Harley at March 26, 2006 07:48 PM (VmTUn)
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waves of hispanics, increasing strength of hurricanes, global warming, the northern states may have to rethink their immigration polic....y STATES RIGHTS !!
Posted by: john Ryan at March 26, 2006 08:36 PM (TcoRJ)
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I was in LA last summer for the first time since the 1980's and the change is startling, I can tell you. It resembles nothing more than a third world city. Pathetic is how I would describe it, and the situation at the southern border of the US is on a par with LA as well.
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On the other hand, they do work hard, unlike our iPod generation who are a bunch of irresponsible no good lazy bums. I weep for the future when I think it belongs to these slugs, and if immigrants bring their hunger to succeed it will do this country some good. But at least make them learn the friggin language. None of this multi-culti crap. It's a melting pot, not a salad bowl.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 09:11 PM (M3nr/)
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Well, 20253, you were moaning like a little bitch, and saying
'harder daddy', so we figured you were enjoying it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 27, 2006 05:57 AM (0yYS2)
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Now back to the topic. In historical context, a large group of foreign citizens in a nation illegally is called an
invasion. Invaders should be met with machine gun and tanks, not news cameras and hollow legislation.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 27, 2006 06:01 AM (0yYS2)
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Hope they got everyones' name- we can then issue each a big fine(that would create budget surplus) then deport them and let them apply legally.
Posted by: splashtc at March 27, 2006 08:20 AM (zlay8)
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Landmines and machinegun emplacements.
Let's stop screwing around with these people.
Posted by: dick at March 27, 2006 08:45 AM (XlQVK)
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I'm tired of the mantra that these people do the jobs "Americans won't do". There are many jobs Americans don't "want to do" but that doesn't equate to "won't do". I commented on this at
Decision '08. I said that this country thrives on competion at all levels and that competion is removed when there are masses of people who are willing to be exploited with rock bottom or below wages because they aren't here legally. Why would I compete to collect garbage for minimum wage?
This is a result of failed government policies and their emphasis on legally admitting a glut of people to do jobs Americans "want" to do with H1B visas and the like and ignoring those who are simply willing to work hard. My husband went through a very difficult time not long ago trying to find IT work that was being handed out to foreigners willing to accept a fraction of what the market would normally dictate as wages for the same work, all the while those who hired the H1B workers had to deal with language barriers and sub-quality work. But they were encouraged by the government to hire them.
We should have had a more comprehensive "guest worker" status to offer all along. Our government has created this mindset of "jobs Americans won't do" by putting little or no value on blue collar labor. In the meantime they ignored the influx of illegal laborers at the borders while they focused attention on admitting white-collar workers. That's how we end up with admitting into the country highly qualified engineers and educators who just want to blow us up rather than the kind of people who will actually assimilate and contribute to the economy at the most base level.
They make it too hard for the average person to get into the country to work legally and too easy for someone who may have nefarious goals simply by virtue of their white-collar skills.
This is only part of the problem. If the government didn't kow-tow so much to labor unions exacting such a burden on companies who employ blue collar workers they migh not be so compelled to hire "undocumented" workers.
And yes, there are Americans who "won't" to do these jobs, but many of these are people who "won't" to do much of anything.
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 09:19 AM (V9juS)
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Damn, Oyster, I always marvel at how you are able to cut through the crap and make the relevant points.
And to make matters worse, the US is about to triple the number of Saudi students who are allowed to come to the US and attend college, or perhaps they have a more nefarious scheme. Didn't Saudi's participate in something really bad just a few years ago...ah, well, the memory escapes me. Perhaps I'll think of it later.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 27, 2006 09:32 AM (rUyw4)
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Thousands of supporters of illegal aleins and AL QUEDA terrorists march in LA waving their stupid signs and chanting nonsense why dont they all move to mexico and stay there
Posted by: sandpiper at March 27, 2006 09:53 AM (Tl3bz)
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JJ your point was illustrated quite succinctly by Yale University in the way they gleefully admitted Ramatullah Hashemi, the Taliban spokesman, under the pretext of "cultural diversity" yet rejected Afghan women who were oppressed by the regime he represented. Women who were more educated and more qualified than he to benefit from an education there.
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 10:09 AM (V9juS)
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And also more likely to accomplish something positive for their country, Oyster. And where are the women's rights groups? If they were worth a plug nickel, they would have already condemned the shoddy behavior of Yale toward the Afghan women, who were much more accomplished and deserving of a quality education than Hashemi.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 27, 2006 10:31 AM (rUyw4)
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Go Patriots!
Go Patriots! (Fat chance against UConn, I know, but miracles happen sometimes.) Patriots, the home of
The Institute for Humane Studies and the
School of Public Choice vs University of Connecticut, home of... pretty much conventional
politically correct departments and institutions.
Game time: 2:30PM EST.
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The liberal whiners dont like names like PATRIOTS,EAGLES,PACKERS or that they want wussie little names like PINK CHICKENS,GEEKS,NERDS,BUNNY HUGGERS,TREE HUGGERS or what
Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:50 PM (slksM)
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Well, Huskies isn't bad. Dogs with super-resistance to cold, and tough as hell. Still, the Patriots have pulled ahead in the second half
for the second time in the ball game so it's at least a freakin' contest.
Update: GMU wins by two in overtime against UConn! (In spite of the fact that Lewis missed his final two free throws1)
Go Patriots!
Posted by: Demosophist at March 26, 2006 04:11 PM (4v/h7)
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Well, George Mason won. Maybe it is the year of the Patriots.
Posted by: STAN at March 26, 2006 06:20 PM (ATXlp)
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Woohooo!!!!!
Go Patriots! Final Four, Here We Come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sarah at March 26, 2006 06:59 PM (7NULt)
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Iraqi authorities warn of exploding candy distributed by gunmen in Baghdad
Just when you thought the terrorist scumbags in Iraq couldn't sink any lower.....they do.
BAGHDAD, March 26 (KUNA) - Iraqi Ministry of State for National Security on Sunday warned of touching explosive-packed candy bars found on Baghdad streets.
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No wonder liberals love terrorists so much; they agree on everything, even the "right to choose".
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 26, 2006 01:19 PM (0yYS2)
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But they are not terrorists they are freedom fighters. And the only reason they are blowing up candy is because they care about the health of the children in Iraq. If they blow up the candy the kiddies can't eat the unhealthy candy.
Posted by: Wild Bill at March 26, 2006 01:52 PM (ozyXy)
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Yer prob'ly right Bill, and the leftards will likely blame the whole thing on the soldiers and Marines who pass out candy, (non-exploding), to the children. Liberals should all be killed in as painful a manner as possible.
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Has anyone else tried to verify this story ? I have and have not been able to using google and "exploding candy in Iraq" It does not sound entirely plausible to me; especially the part about the explosive being covered in chocolate. The story is now at least 7 hours old and no on else is reporting it. Although there have been several reports of exploding candy (jawbreakers) in the USA http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=1700613&nav=2KPpLQ50
Posted by: john Ryan at March 26, 2006 02:30 PM (TcoRJ)
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They should cram all that explosive candy into the mouths of the terrorists scum and let it explode and blow them all to smitherinies
Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:52 PM (slksM)
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It is hard to believe, then again you can't put nothing past these guys. I found it in the Houston Chronicle posted 3 hours ago. I can't post the link because my comment failed due to "questionable content."
Go to Google and type in "candy Iraq."
Posted by: Javapuke at March 26, 2006 03:01 PM (orGTC)
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This is similiar to when they were handing out cups of water on hot days filled with ice and broken glass. We give candy out to the kids all the time, might be a ploy to blame US for Iraqi kids getting blown up by crazy candy.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 26, 2006 03:02 PM (UItaE)
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The Kuwait News Agency in the past has been a pretty reliable source and has a good rep. They are after all only reporting a statement (warning) from the Iraq Ministry of State. I'll leave it up to you all as to whether the IMS is misrepresenting.
IMHO the fact that the MSM isn't reporting this is indicative of absolutely nothing.
Posted by: traderrob at March 26, 2006 03:10 PM (3al54)
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I hope they don't drink soda-pop when consuming such candy.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at March 26, 2006 03:47 PM (ffPYG)
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The Guardian reports it as candy concealed in
boxes of candy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5712703,00.html
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 27, 2006 01:49 AM (RHG+K)
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Make that "explosives concealed".
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 27, 2006 01:50 AM (RHG+K)
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traderrob's right. It's being reported that Iraq's national security ministry issued a statement
warning citizens about it. Not that it was happening or had happened. And that's exactly how he stated it here. I would suggest that certain people not read more into it than what was said.
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 05:49 AM (YudAC)
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"Certain people" don't like the terrorist insurgency to get bad press because that might translate into support for the war, and THAT might lead to support for the Republicans - a situation that "certain people" would do ANYTHING to avoid.
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Those "Certain people" are at it again. They must really hate those moon god worshipping S.O.B's.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 27, 2006 03:57 PM (D2g/j)
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Abdul Rahman May be Freed
To follow up
on Blutos earlier post, CNN is flying a banner this morning(
story up) saying western diplomats expect Rahman will be released today. However they are also reporting that Rahman has been moved to Prison. And pope Pope Benedict XVI has formally requested his release. My concern is both that he may be executed and if not his safety upon release. Muslim clerics have called for the people to quote, “
Pull him into pieces!”. Rahman remains steadfast in his faith.
Rahman told the Rome daily La Repubblica Via CNN :"I am serene. I have full awareness of what I have chosen. If I must die, I will die, Somebody a long time ago did it for all of us.”
Many nations, Christian and Secular have done much for the Muslims in Afghanistan. Your freedom is our cause. As your friends we have seen and taken pity on this man. As a favor and gesture of goodwill I ask that you ensure his safety and free transport to exile to Rome. Deport him if you do not desire his presence and surely his children should be with their Father. IÂ’ve heard quotes from Afghanistan like this one.
Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.
Eugene Volokh Add this:
This is telling evidence, it seems to me, that there is something very wrong in Islam today, and not just in some lunatic terrorist fringe. Doubtless many, I would hope most, Muslims would not endorse executing converts.
Christians are and have been very good brothers to the people of Afghanistan? Why then do you forbid us in your nation? Brothers should stand close to one another and sometimes correct the other. We hear your complaints and are trying to help. Now we ask the same from you.
I pray for Adbdul RahmanÂ’s safe release. IÂ’m not Catholic but I appreciate the work they are doing. Their help gives me some hope. They have a good track record in these things.
Update : ABCNEWS is reporting the case has been dismissed due to "problems" with the evidence. and Rahman will be relased soon.
Others: Michelle Malkin, Captain's Quarters, Jihad Watch and The Anchoress.
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>>>>"I am serene. I have full awareness of what I have chosen. If I must die, I will die, Somebody a long time ago did it for all of us.”
Can anybody spot the difference between a christian martyr vs a muslim one? A christian martyr DIES for this faith, while a muslim one KILLS for his.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 10:02 AM (8e/V4)
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His release amounts to nothing more than a death sentence. Unless he is allowed refuge in another nation, he will be killed by the public.
Posted by: The Gentle Cricket at March 26, 2006 10:32 AM (USZUJ)
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Check out this 5 minute CNN tape.
The 9-11 Truth Movement has exploded on CNN.
Thousands of people are emailing CNN in approval.
In CNNÂ’s poll, which asks if you believe the
government was involved in 9-11, 67% say yes. Even I
am surprised.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 11:29 AM (q5wwn)
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greg,
do you have a link for that CNN poll? I will believe it when I see it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:40 AM (8e/V4)
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greg,
page not found. They pulled it?
Means that CNN is probably embarrassed that all the loons suddenly appeared out of the woodwork and is going to kill their rating amongst regular folks.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:50 AM (8e/V4)
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Never mind. I found it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:52 AM (8e/V4)
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Notice how the poll question is worded for maximum deceptive results.
Charlie Sheen and conspiracy theorists claim the government actually COMMITTED the attack.
But the poll asks an entirely different question-- whether they believe the government "covered up" the real events.
Two different issues, yet the conspiracists try to use the latter to support the former. Even a child can see whats going on here. Conspiracy theorists (and CNN) is guilty of deception.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:57 AM (8e/V4)
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Greg, you do realise that, assuming that only US citizens voted, approximately 0.014% of the population agrees with Charlie Sheen. The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.
Posted by: Graeme at March 26, 2006 12:00 PM (VwhTY)
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>>>>The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.
Good point.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 12:11 PM (8e/V4)
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Still hijacking threads, eh Greg?
Posted by: Oyster at March 26, 2006 12:21 PM (YudAC)
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Belittle the poll all you want.
We-sa-comin-ta-gitcha!
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 12:45 PM (q5wwn)
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Graeme,
Do you realize that presidential polls have an n=1000 or less.
This poll has an n>=50,000
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 12:54 PM (q5wwn)
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Is it possible a factor that may need to be considered is the number of times Greg has voted?
Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 01:15 PM (D3+20)
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>>>>the number of times Greg has voted?
lol! vote. delete cookies. vote. delete cookies. repeat process all afternoon.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 01:17 PM (8e/V4)
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If I vote will that make you happy?
Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 01:22 PM (D3+20)
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Greg,
that poll, properly worded to reflect what moonbat Sheen ACTUALLY said, wouldn't reflect those numbers and you know it.
Then put the poll on Fox instead of CNN and fuggedaboutit. CNN gets a fraction of the hits the Fox does.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 01:22 PM (8e/V4)
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How do you get a liberal to leave your property?
Pay him for the pizza.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 26, 2006 01:27 PM (0yYS2)
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Howie,
What would make me happy is if you'd watch the CNN feed at:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm
and if Rusty would take off all of these silly filters. My gosh, look how much trouble it is to link to C N N on the Jawa Report. Same for the B B C.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 01:49 PM (q5wwn)
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Greg: They're probably PixyMisa's filters? the comment script is on blog.mu.nu not jawa.
Greg I could write code in under 10 minutes that would click that vote all day, and someone probably did. Every conference I go to, I see to meet some moonbat programmer who thinks we're in the Matrix, or that Roswell space alien technology is being harnessed in the U.S technology race.
Re: subject
Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.
This guy does realise Afghanistan wasn't Muslim land until ROP raiders came across, and killed everyone in their wake right?
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Dave: That's the mindset. Anything before their appearance doesn't count. Once they step in, their laws and beliefs supercede everything. Anything before that is discounted as illegitimate and doesn't even merit discussion. The only time even biblical history is brought up it's twisted and bastardized to lay a false foundation for their own beliefs. The final answer to everything is that it's Allah's will. When they get boxed into a corner, that's always the answer. That's the signal that the discussion is over.
Posted by: Oyster at March 26, 2006 02:41 PM (YudAC)
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He should be freed no one should be pursicuted for becoming a christain and by the way they still persicte christains in CHINA and CUBA and probibly NORTH KOREA thats what the ACLU dose here in this country
Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:55 PM (slksM)
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Davec,
The 9-11 Truth Movement is going to be part of American lore, at a minimum.
It's entirely possible that there will be convictions if this gets out of hand.
The right ignores this issue at its own peril. "The worm has turned".
To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 02:58 PM (q5wwn)
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>>>>To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.
So explain that. What is the pattern? Are you saying Clinton blew up the Murrah building? And for what purpose. And how does that tie into 9/11. Pattern, please. Or else it's just random synapse firing by conspiracy kooks.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 03:10 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
At the time the government was very worried about militia.
Since the bombing, militia have lost strength.
The OKC bombing was probably an entrapment psyop.
The reports of John Doe being of middle eastern origin is significant.
After the first gulf war hundreds of Iraqi military were repatriated to OKC.
The goverment has never shown us the security film which would identify John Doe as a coconspirator of McVeigh.
The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 03:33 PM (q5wwn)
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Where does Karl Rove's earthquake generator, mounted on the nose of the space shuttle fit in?
Posted by: davec at March 26, 2006 03:40 PM (CcXvt)
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Oyster,
As usual you make an excellent point. I just finished reading a History of India, and I can tell you that the barbarity inflicted on the Hindus and Buddists by Islam is without any compare, except perhaps the slaughter of Jews and Slavs by the Nazis. And even the Nazis could not accomplish what Islam did to India, where upwards of 80 million people were slaughtered. A mountain range in Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush, which means Hindu slaughter, was named after events that took place here.
And you are right again, oyster, because Afghanistan was controlled by Hindus and Buddists before the Muslims came. Mahmud of Ghazni led seventeen expeditions into India over a 27 year period that was nothing more than a slaughter. All in the name of Islam.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 03:59 PM (rUyw4)
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Greg: I will watch the feed when I have the pipes for it. I'll vote to. I reckon there is some detail they may have left out or be "suppressing". Or maybe not I'll decide tomorrow. Now you guys greg is excited let's be happy for him. I suppose as long a Greg is proud of it that's all that matters right Greg.
Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 05:53 PM (D3+20)
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Amen Brotha,
Every dog has his day.
As things develop, I'll make sure the Jawa community hears about it.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 06:33 PM (q5wwn)
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Gee, thanks, Greg, you are a true humanitarian.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 08:15 PM (rUyw4)
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>>>>The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.
greg,
sorry, that's too monstrous to accept based just on questionable circumstantial evidence and speculative conclusions.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 09:17 PM (M3nr/)
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Gee Greg. If this is a matter of such magnitude you owe it to the world to start a blog insted of limiting this dire information to us measley few. Oh, wait .... no one will read it, you say? Well, you've a point there. Better to hijack threads and preach to a captive audience than get rejected by the masses with no hits to your counter, eh?
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 10:31 AM (V9juS)
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Poll gone looking for video. And yes greg should start a blog. I think it would do OK. Heck I'll even read it.
www.blogger.com/start
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:25 AM (D3+20)
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Greg send it to me video site too slow today.
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:39 AM (D3+20)
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Howie,
The story has probably been spiked by now.
I'm at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton until Thursday presenting my research.
When I get back to Austin I'll try and find an archived copy for you.
Best,
Greg
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I could see the site you posted. Looks like they have it just too slow. I'll try again tomorrow.
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 08:17 PM (D3+20)
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NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell's producer was given some basic instruction in humanity by conservative commentator
Cam Edwards Friday. Mitchell's producer showed up at a rally for Adbul Rahman, the Afghan facing death for leaving Islam, outside the Afghan embassy in Washington, D.C. The producer was apparently trying to incite anti-Bush quotes from the protesters.
At some point, Edwards gave him an earful that probably won't make the Nightly News, as mainstream media types are inordinately averse to broadcasting uncomplimentary opinions of themselves. Even richly deserved uncomplimentary opinions.
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I watched the video, and though he was much less vigorous about it than I would have been had I been in his place, his point was well made and valid. And of course we will never see it on the air. The media are scum and should all be shot for treason.
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Google Chumming Pays Off
From
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What a magnificent body and beautiful flat stomach. If her breasts weren't so tiny, I'd "cross the street" and become bi-sexual in a heartbeat.
Take that, punks!
In other news, I'm taking a leave of absence. Cya in the funny papers.
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Darkhorse Marines Do What They Can (Updated)
From the not-exciting-enough-for-the-nightly-news file comes word that Marines from Company I, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment delivered a new top-of-the-line pediatric wheelchair to a little girl in Al Hasa, Iraq.
The Marines became aware of the girl in January, when they saw her while on patrol.
The story is reported by Cpl. Mark Sixbey in the CENTCOM News:
“We knew we had to help out in some way,” said Staff Sgt. Charles Evers, a platoon commander for Company I. “We don’t have a miracle cure, but we can at least give her a new wheelchair.”
Guaranteeing this story's exclusion from the mainstream media is the fact that the little girl was injured in an auto accident, not by military action. Previous generations of journalists were eager to report stories like this. Now, there's just the occasional
old schooler around.
Update: Commenter Gunny, currently serving in Iraq, made such a strong post in response to a churlish comment from another poster in the comments thread that it deserves to be part of the main post:
MiB,
"Why are they doing this when they should be going out, killing fascists/terrorists, and making sure there is law and order the streets?"
I can guarantee you that those Marines are going out multiple times a day and doing everything in their power "to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver and to repel the enemy's assault through fire and close combat" as that is the primary mission of the Marine rifle squad. I have been in the city of Ramadi for 11 months, I have conducted over 400 combat patrols, cordon and knock, targeted raids, and mechanized patrols and I have also found the time to feed the poor, deliver medical supplies and to help those who cannot help themselves. To do any less would be un-American and downright wrong! Don't penalize the Marine because he still has the heart to help a little girl who was injured. The Iraqi people are so poor they often eat their food off the floor and for the most part have no electricity or running water, and to say that no one cares is part of the reason that most people don't understand the nature of war. The individual Marine on the battlefield struggles everyday to retain his/her humanity in the face of horror and destruction. When was the last time you had to carry your buddies body parts back to a vehicle so that you could ensure he came home. We have 17 and 18-year-old men out here doing that everyday, and if they can find the heart in them to help a little girl than so be it, whats it to you? It is what separates us from the enemy. We have a moral compass to guide us and we have compassion for the small guy caught in the crossfire. Shame on you, Sir.
“A waste of time. No one in the Muslim world cares and no one here except Bush apologists who want to say that "We were only wanting to help the Iraqis!" cares, either.”
I am NOT a Bush apologists and I Care. I definitely do not lay awake at night wondering about the outcome of the Iraqi people. I do, however, still find a place in my heart to realize the plight of the individual right in front of me. When we do things like that, we are not trying to make a media statement, and we are not trying to humanize the war effort. No, Sir, usually, we are just trying to make a right a wrong, and to allow us to feel a little more human before we return to the killing of fascist/terrorist. If you canÂ’t find it in yourself to care about an injured child then maybe someone should write a blog about that, because that is something that needs to be discussed.
This nation has become so polarized that there is no room for middle ground, compromises, or meeting people half way. It’s this kind of attitude, one in which people judge an action and then try to force it into a political left or right box, which has caused this war to become a disaster. The Marines are doing the best they can, they fight and die everyday and if that isn’t enough for you than I suggest you grab a rifle and come on over, other than that try poking your finger at the politicians who develop the “Executive Conflict Intent”. In lieu of those two decisions maybe opening your heart to the plight of the innocent and just sleeping comfortable knowing that the Marines are fighting terrorist over HERE and not in your back yard, can be justification enough for you. I never did think that an American would want justification for a hospitable act from a Marine in a war zone, would you rather have a war crime instead? What exactly do you want?
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Why are they doing this when they
should be going out, killing fascists/terrorists, and making sure there is law and order the streets?
A waste of time. No one in the Muslim world cares and no one here except Bush apologists who want to say that "We were only wanting to help the Iraqis!" cares, either.
Posted by: MiB at March 25, 2006 12:22 PM (XRlh2)
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As Ronald Reagan said:
"Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem."
Posted by: Graeme at March 25, 2006 12:52 PM (5+rGF)
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MiB:
Your hat's on a little too tight today, eh?
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 01:09 PM (V9juS)
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MiB, from what my buddies in the sandbox say they do a lot of this stuff in their 'off' time. They'll notice something like this on a mission, then pool together to get something done about it when they're back at the FOB.
Assuming you're dealing with normal people, then helping out will also help negate enemy propaganda that all we do is break down doors in the middle of the night to imprison them slaughter children so we can drink their blood.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at March 25, 2006 01:40 PM (GyNTD)
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*inprison them and slaughter their children
Gotta love trying to do 5 things at once, heh.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at March 25, 2006 01:42 PM (GyNTD)
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You know, I actually feel sorry for this little girl and hope that she can have a life with a few of the things we take for granted, like an education and freedom to pursue her dreams, because I KNOW she has dreams.
MiB....go to hell, you are one worthless bastard! Can't even find any sympathy for a poor crippled little girl. I'd beat the hell out of your worthless ass if I could find you.
/Rant over
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MiB,
"Why are they doing this when they should be going out, killing fascists/terrorists, and making sure there is law and order the streets?"
I can guarantee you that those Marines are going out multiple times a day and doing everything in their power "to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver and to repel the enemy's assault through fire and close combat" as that is the primary mission of the Marine rifle squad. I have been in the city of Ramadi for 11 months, I have conducted over 400 combat patrols, cordon and knock, targeted raids, and mechanized patrols and I have also found the time to feed the poor, deliver medical supplies and to help those who cannot help themselves. To do any less would be un-American and downright wrong! Don't penalize the Marine because he still has the heart to help a little girl who was injured. The Iraqi people are so poor they often eat their food off the floor and for the most part have no electricity or running water, and to say that no one cares is part of the reason that most people don't understand the nature of war. The individual Marine on the battlefield struggles everyday to retain his/her humanity in the face of horror and destruction. When was the last time you had to carry your buddies body parts back to a vehicle so that you could ensure he came home. We have 17 and 18-year-old men out here doing that everyday, and if they can find the heart in them to help a little girl than so be it, whats it to you? It is what separates us from the enemy. We have a moral compass to guide us and we have compassion for the small guy caught in the crossfire. Shame on you, Sir.
“A waste of time. No one in the Muslim world cares and no one here except Bush apologists who want to say that "We were only wanting to help the Iraqis!" cares, either.”
I am NOT a Bush apologists and I Care. I definitely do not lay awake at night wondering about the outcome of the Iraqi people. I do, however, still find a place in my heart to realize the plight of the individual right in front of me. When we do things like that, we are not trying to make a media statement, and we are not trying to humanize the war effort. No, Sir, usually, we are just trying to make a right a wrong, and to allow us to feel a little more human before we return to the killing of fascist/terrorist. If you canÂ’t find it in yourself to care about an injured child then maybe someone should write a blog about that, because that is something that needs to be discussed.
This nation has become so polarized that there is no room for middle ground, compromises, or meeting people half way. It’s this kind of attitude, one in which people judge an action and then try to force it into a political left or right box, which has caused this war to become a disaster. The Marines are doing the best they can, they fight and die everyday and if that isn’t enough for you than I suggest you grab a rifle and come on over, other than that try poking your finger at the politicians who develop the “Executive Conflict Intent”. In lieu of those two decisions maybe opening your heart to the plight of the innocent and just sleeping comfortable knowing that the Marines are fighting terrorist over HERE and not in your back yard, can be justification enough for you. I never did think that an American would want justification for a hospitable act from a Marine in a war zone, would you rather have a war crime instead? What exactly do you want?
Posted by: The Gunny at March 25, 2006 01:49 PM (UItaE)
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Thank you, Gunny, that is what I wanted to say before I lost it. Well said, indeed!
Sorry, MiB, but this has been a crappy day. And my post was a reflection on me and not you. Enjoy your day!
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 25, 2006 02:14 PM (rUyw4)
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Polaeization ? Not here we are one people, united from many.Our civil war is now over with about 200,000 battle wounds causing deaths. About 1000 per weeek on average from our population of about 50 million.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 02:24 PM (TcoRJ)
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john Ryan,
"Polaeization ? Not here we are one people, united from many."
Not here? Where are you talking about?
Who is we?
United what?
"Our civil war is now over with about 200,000 battle wounds causing deaths. About 1000 per week on average from our population of about 50 million."
Again, who... what...Civil War? is the south rising again? Whose population is 50 mil? It's not America, our last censuses was at 286 million so I am just curious what youÂ’re talking about. If you took the time to post based on my diatribe then I wish to do you the courtesy of replying, but honestly, I am not sure what your statement means.
I am just a dumb grunt though..
Posted by: The Gunny at March 25, 2006 02:43 PM (UItaE)
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>>> I am just a dumb grunt though...
An infinitely better and more honorable thing than MiB and his fellow S.O.Bs, Gunny.
Posted by: Graeme at March 25, 2006 03:53 PM (5+rGF)
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You'll have to ignore John Ryan, Gunny. He gets his idea of military operations from watching re-runs of "24", and Chuck Norris's "Delta Force"
He doesn't even know how dangerous CQB is, from the thread about rescuing CPT'ers he wrote:
As for the part about the additional risk to the lives of the rescuers I am not sure if the risk they run durring a planed rescue mission is substantially more then they run every day durring normal operations.
Indeed.
Posted by: davec at March 25, 2006 04:42 PM (CcXvt)
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One more example, time and again, making me so proud of our soldiers.
Posted by: Javapuke at March 25, 2006 06:34 PM (41o/M)
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Hey, Bluto.
Sorry this is off topic, but you really need to see this if you haven't. The demonstration in front of the Afghan Embassy in Washington yesterday produced one video worth watching. Somehow, I doubt it will be shown on any networks. Well worth seeing:
Reporter gets the smack down by Cam Edwards.
[ageofhooper.blogspot.com]
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 07:18 PM (YudAC)
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This comment removed by Jawa Report Correspondent Number 6. Who is Number 1? I am the new Number 2. You are the new number 6.
I am not a number, I am a free man! Ahahahahahahaha
Posted by: Greg at March 25, 2006 08:10 PM (q5wwn)
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I see moonbats on the MSM everyday, what's different?
Posted by: davec at March 25, 2006 10:00 PM (CcXvt)
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Moonbats like Keith Olbermann are the MSM.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 25, 2006 10:54 PM (rUyw4)
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Now what do we do that Gunny just said it all pretty much perfectly? Sigh, I can't think of anthing except bump this post up. Give me a bit.
Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 07:57 AM (D3+20)
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Marines give wheelchairs to little crippled children.
Terrorists give them exploding candy bars.
Liberals like the terrorists better.
Every liberal should hang until they stop kicking.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 26, 2006 01:30 PM (0yYS2)
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Honor Killings
(Ankara, Turkey) Last year, the Turkish government performed a major revision to its penal code to meet minimum standards required for the country to join the European Union. As an example, it's now
mandated that murders committed to preserve a family's honor will result in an automatic life term in prison. Previously, honor killings were committed with lenient or no punishment imposed.
Sounds good but, unfortunately, there are 70 million Muslims in the country who have accepted honor killings as a traditional and historic fact of life. In my estimation, it will take a generation or two at least to see any substantive departure from the infamous practice.
However, one troubling fact about the new legislation is that it contains a provision for mitigating the life sentences for honor killings if the perpetrator is provoked. Turkish courts have used this provision in the new law to reduce sentences.
In one case, a brother who gruesomely murdered his sister for becoming pregnant out of wedlock had his life sentence reduced to 20 years "on the grounds of his good behavior in court and also the fact that his action had been heavily provoked." Other than to "cleanse" the family's honor, it's not clear what "heavily provoked" means. It appears to be entirely subjective and controversial, to say the least.
As a consequence, the Turkish Supreme Court of Appeals was asked to weigh in on the subject.
From Turkish Daily News:
The Supreme Court of Appeals' First Criminal Bureau decided on Friday that individuals found guilty of an "honor" killing could not benefit from a reduction in sentence due to provocation, arguing that the committing of such a crime resulted not from provocation but from a desire to ensure the survival of a bad tradition.
"Bad tradition" is an understatement. I'd call it barbaric. Nevertheless, at least some top-down pressure from an authoritative body is being placed on the citizens of Turkey to change their thinking.
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Re: "Bad tradition"
As long as they're moving in the right direction I won't quibble over terminology - yet.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 10:40 AM (MkwVi)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killings Here is a link to the wikipedia article on "honor killings" Honor killings are forbidden by sharia law although any exta marital sex is punishable by harsh penalties.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 11:23 AM (TcoRJ)
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The decision is an improvement, but will it have any real impact? One of the ways islamic families residing in europe get around the laws is to ship the relative to another islamic country where the deed can be done with little or no repercussions. With Turkey bordering Syria and Iran, it's possible that this will become the preferred method.
Posted by: Graeme at March 25, 2006 11:50 AM (5+rGF)
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Turky: Allies in the War Against Terror!
Is Bush bad
yet guys, or is he going to have to name Zarqawi as his chosen heir to the presidency before you guys get it that he's botched the entire WoT up pretty bad?
Granted, he botched it
less than Kerry would have, but thats not saying a whole lot.
Posted by: MiB at March 25, 2006 12:12 PM (XRlh2)
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It is a positive step (albeit a small one) in the right direcion. History is a good ruler and Honor Killings are not so foreign in our own culture. 300 years ago things of this nature were common all over western europe, often times conducted in the name of GOD. This is a country with a significant Muslim population and you can't just assign a US Constitution and call it a day. There would be rebelion of the highest order, Muslim Clerics would win in the aftermath of the fall of the deposed secular government, and you would have another Theocracy like Iran. Don't push your luck.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 25, 2006 01:57 PM (UItaE)
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then of course you get the ever popular "It's Bush's fault" comment. Come on, hippie, if you going to keep giving the guy credit for everything in the world doesn't that kind of defeat the saying that he doesn't know what is going on? Your making no sense.. "Bush did it because he is evil hahaha...Bush doesn't know what is going on anywhere he is dumb...Bush planned the whole thing...Bush is dumb...Bush mastermined 9/11...Bush is dumb"
MAKE UP YOUR MIND, HIPPIE.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 25, 2006 02:16 PM (UItaE)
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Honor killing law (milder sentences for honor killing) was abrogated in Italy at the end of the seventies.
When these laws are abrogated, the social change is already in the way.
And Turkey will entre in the UE not before than 20 years.
Posted by: Mirco Romanato at March 25, 2006 02:24 PM (zIHiB)
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Honor killings are more of a cultural driven occurrence then a religion driven problem. Blaming honor killings on Islam is like blaming Christianity for high murder rates. 4 out of 5 of the countries which have the highest rates of murder are heavily Christian http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_percap Columbia, South Africa, Jamaica, Venezuela the 5th highest is Russia. Buddhist Thailand came in with a disappointing number #14 about twice more then even the United States
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 03:02 PM (TcoRJ)
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Whether honor killings are islamic in nature is neither here nor there. When Islamic clerics and fanatics use Islam as justification for it is when it becomes an issue. Every time a man kills his wife for cheating on him it's an honor killing no matter where it is. The difference is whether it's found acceptable by a culture which uses religious doctrine (right or wrong) to legitimize it. In the numerous cases in the Middle East their common theme is that Islam permits it. The Koran condemns rape too, but Muslim men often use Islam as justification for it,
"She was not properly veiled."
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 03:19 PM (V9juS)
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I'd consider the jump from honor killings to the War on Terror as lacking logic. Unless I'm missing something, they are entirely different issues. And how President Bush got roped into the discussion is beyond me.
Frankly, I think the post could have been about cooking lamb kabobs and MiB would have found a way to ctiticize and blame the President.
Posted by: Mike at March 25, 2006 06:33 PM (g7eZx)
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Mike, Bush is Satan. Haven't you heard?
All sarcasm aside, hardly a discussion comes up that Bush isn't somehow responsible in the eyes of some.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 07:02 PM (YudAC)
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Stll pretty backwards are,nt thay?
Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:57 PM (slksM)
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I think what you guys are doing in Turkey is VERY WRONG. Killed for being pregnant, stupid. Genocide will never cease!
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Afghan Christian May Be Freed
Abdul Rahman, the Afghan who converted from Islam to Christianity and was threatened with death under sharia law for apostasy, may be released soon.
From Agence France Presse:
An Afghan Christian facing possible execution for converting from Islam was likely to be released from jail "soon," a senior government official said following huge Western pressure over the case.
"He is likely to be released soon," the official said, adding there would be a top-level meeting on the matter Saturday.
The sharia law against apostasy does not specify that a Muslim who converts only to Christianity must be punished. The "crime" is leaving Islam, regardless of what faith the apostate then embraces.
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Likely he'll be killed in the streets by his fellow citizens who happen to be of the "religion of peace" persuasion.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at March 24, 2006 04:33 PM (/lpvu)
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I'd be thankful if he's released and is willing, given the means, to leave the country for another. I'm wondering if that may end up even being a requirement.
Posted by: Javapuke at March 24, 2006 05:23 PM (OOrBj)
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He should DEFECT like people running away from the former Soviet union. Go find an American Military Establishment and ask for political and religeous asylum.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 24, 2006 05:24 PM (UItaE)
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One thing that would stop this from the religion of peace would be if muslims clerics where taken and decapitated. If enough of them get a taste of a blade to their necks they'd think twice. Muslims are like a stuborn mule that needs to be hit between the eyes with a 2x4 to get it to move.
Posted by: Andre at March 24, 2006 06:51 PM (/u+1F)
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What is so stupid about this whole damn thing... He converted 16 years ago, while in Germany.
Posted by: Ariya at March 24, 2006 06:59 PM (yHb0A)
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I saw my Great Grandfather do that to his mule, that did not want to get harnessed to the plow. After he lifted that 2 by 4 up in the air, that mule calmed down real fast. I suppose my Great Grandfather had hit that mule in the past, and the mule remembered it. That five acres got plowed with no problem after that. Maybe it would work with those moon god worshippers too.
That sticks in my mind to this day.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 24, 2006 07:01 PM (D2g/j)
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I think that this problem really serves to underscore the seriousness of the problem that the united states faces with bringing democracy to Kabul. The U.S. view of freedom of religion is a much different than that of Kabul. In Kabul their community finds it acceptable to vote a government into office, and then if that government enacts laws based on the muslim Koran those laws will be enforced.
Posted by: Teething problems in Kabul at March 24, 2006 07:46 PM (PhGSN)
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"An Afghan Christian facing possible execution for converting from Islam was likely to be released from jail "soon," a senior government official said following huge Western pressure over the case"
I hope to God he is "released" like the Christian Peacemaker or whatever they were called in Iraq were "released" In Afganistan that would mean "released" by a platoon of Rangers or Marines with guns blazing.
Hearing how the people for whom the USA spent its blood and treasure on treat those with different religious beliefs is enough to turn me into one of those "go to Hell Conservatives that I read about at NRO earlier in the week!
Posted by: Kent at March 24, 2006 07:59 PM (8xG54)
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Released soon........Hm. To perhaps, walk the streets of Kabul, alone? I don't think so. Those ROP boys have some really fun stuff planned for him, and it will be done very publicly.
If you thought beheading was inhuman, wait 'til you see what they do to him. (If we don't give him safe passage out of there.)
Posted by: n.a. palm at March 24, 2006 08:30 PM (ZRUjY)
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Teething, why don't you admit that it is the whole of Islam that is the problem. The religion itself is barbaric as practiced by the vast majority of its adherants. Bringing democracy to any Islamic nation is next to impossible. One wonders what is to be done with these people, as they seem to reject the ideas of the modern world.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 24, 2006 08:35 PM (rUyw4)
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I hope this man finds safety. And soon. And I think he's shown the necessary wherewithal to merit a little help from the coalition. I do get tired of the extreme responses though from both ends of the spectrum. It's always either
"blow 'em to hell, they'd do the same" or
"if we were just a little nicer..."
There's a reasonable and correct response to every action taken by these whack-job extremists. Sometimes force is needed and sometimes reason can be applied. The art is knowing when to do what. In this case, a great deal of focus on this gentleman has produced some response from his oppressors, but he's not out of the woods yet.
It truly is a shame though, that diplomacy is necessary in these instances, because common sense is such a commodity in that part of the world.
What are the odds that he'll show more gratitude than the CPT group has if he is freed? I think we know the answer to that. Sad but true.
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 09:06 PM (YudAC)
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The whole thing looked staged to me.
Basically, an "ally" is helping us vilify Muslims.
If they were really going to kill this guy, they wouldn't have paraded him on TV, allowing him to espouse his apostasy to the whole world.
To paraphrase Karl RoveÂ…
"We create reality and when you think you know what reality is, we change it."
Posted by: Greg at March 24, 2006 10:07 PM (q5wwn)
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Staged? No. Just Islam. Maybe this will serve as a reality check.
Posted by: REMF at March 24, 2006 11:43 PM (7RMSi)
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Even after the resolution of this particular case the overall problem will remain. There are not a great many apostates in Afghanistan but there are others. And I expect more to appear for a variety of reasons and agendas. The entire dociety and culture must be modernized. That is an education issue.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 12:02 AM (TcoRJ)
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>>>>>If they were really going to kill this guy, they wouldn't have paraded him on TV, allowing him to espouse his apostasy to the whole world.
Clearly you're a member of the "reality-based" community where a cigar is never just a cigar and the obvious answer is always wrong.
Executing apostates publicly serves their purposes by letting it serve as a lesson to other would-be apostates. Executing someone in secret kinda defeats the purpose.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 25, 2006 01:19 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: REMF at March 25, 2006 05:49 AM (7RMSi)
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Don't worry about it REMF, it's just another libtard troll, one of greg's friends no doubt, displaying his IQ for everyone to see. I've actually come to enjoy it, because it exposes the leftards for what they are and what they've got: Nothing.
In any event, don't let it bother you, because we'll hang them all soon enough.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 25, 2006 07:13 AM (0yYS2)
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Well I think we should strike his neck, brother
Posted by: REMF at March 25, 2006 07:51 AM (7RMSi)
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As per usual, money talks.
Hope he goes free.
Where do all of these retard trolls come from Rusty?
Posted by: Dick at March 25, 2006 08:21 AM (XlQVK)
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Hey, guys?
Democracy is democracy, right?
Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just leave the place alone instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
Posted by: MiB at March 25, 2006 12:15 PM (XRlh2)
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 01:04 PM (V9juS)
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The IDIOT who wrote hang me needs to be SHOT!!!
PUNK!!!!
anyways HA HA ISLAM...
pWn3D
Posted by: billy faeth at March 25, 2006 01:44 PM (Lc35u)
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SPECIAL NOTE: Our pet troll actually "communicated" with us at Vince Aut Morire the other night. Turns out he's a Leftist who considers all American soldiers to be murderers, hates conservative blogs, and...there was a very broad hint that he...pleasures himself while posting his "numbers".
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Carlos: "Executing apostates publicly"
What execution? All I saw was a staged PR piece that serves the American agenda.
They are not going to execute this guy and Bush can take credit for it. It's a political homerun for Bush.
Posted by: Greg at March 25, 2006 02:30 PM (q5wwn)
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I pray that this man will be released and permitted to flee to safety in a civilized country, but I suspect that this will end in a martyr's crown. I think one way he may be saved is if American muslim organizations use their authority to free him. However, I don't hold much hope in that either.
Posted by: Asgerd at March 25, 2006 03:21 PM (FAzNe)
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Haha. Greg is still subscribing to Alex Jones' conspiracy theories. The obvious is never the truth. There's a conspiracy in everything and Bush is behind it all. Oh yeah, and Rove. Hey Greg, we're really all communists here and we're pulling you into our trap. We only say the things we do so you'll keep hating republicans and conservatives and lean even more left and help us eventually rule the world. Muhahaha!
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 07:08 PM (YudAC)
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MiB:
Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just leave the place alone instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
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Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just flatten the place into glass instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
Fixed it for you, MiB.
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"Next time just leave the place alone..." - OMG, this has got to be the most ignorant comment ever made at Jawa.
Just leave the Taliban and the al Qaeda training camps in place?
Ooookay, MiB.
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Olbermann: ABC Exec Memo a Rovian Plot
Newsbusters has links to video of MSNBC's Keith Olbermann claiming that the White House is responsible for "leaking" an email,
posted on The Drudge Report yesterday, in which ABC executive John Green says that the President makes him "sick", and that he might "puke".
Olbermann offered no evidence for his charge that the email had been leaked by the Administration, and referred to Matt Drudge as "infamous" and "deplorable". Olbermann didn't explain why, if his unsupported supposition were true, it would be a bad thing for the White House to seek to publicize the email, which implies a diseased and grossly biased corporate culture at one of the companies charged with using America's airwaves in the public interest.
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So my question for Keith is, where did the White House get the internal ABC message to leak it to Drudge? Did Dr. Strangerove's evil mind control ray force the guy to write it, and then send it to the White House, too? Did the secret cadre of conservatives working at ABC forward it? And how did Keith find out about the plot? Must have been from the space aliens that transmitted the news about all those missing Cuyahoga County, Ohio votes to his tin-foil helmet after the 2004 election. (Cuyahoge County, by the way, had more "registered voters" than live adult residents for the 2004 election, thanks largely thousands of new voters registered by the AFL-CIO and ACORN. Some 40,000 of those new voters in Ohio either didn't exist or didn't know their address, since that's how many registration cards were returned as "undeliverable", just in the four big urban Democratic counties, as of two weeks or so before the election. But you don't need the card to vote, so who knows how many tens of thousands of fraudulent votes were cast for Kerry?)
Posted by: geobandy at March 24, 2006 12:53 PM (rRNqo)
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Liberalism requires stealth. That's why outing them is "infamous" and "deplorable".
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 24, 2006 01:14 PM (8e/V4)
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"Did the secret cadre of conservatives working at ABC forward it?" Okay ... that made me laugh.
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 01:25 PM (MkwVi)
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Ted Koppel? Wonder if he got back at "The Man" one last time.
Posted by: Howie at March 24, 2006 02:15 PM (D3+20)
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ABC NEWS IT PLAIN STINKS
Posted by: sandpiper at March 24, 2006 08:56 PM (162Hn)
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Keith, Charlie Sheen, & Richard Belzer are all brilliant men. By brilliant I mean f'ing stupid.
Posted by: nuthin2seehere at March 25, 2006 03:32 AM (blNMI)
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The founder of this website,and possibly the current
owner?editor is an islamic.go to Wikepedia and
look it up.Is that why when the phony
Nick Berg pysops came out,he posted the pictures
and made a big deal about the fake Zarqawi,you tell me?
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Chirac Outraged by Speech in English
Sacre bleu!
From Telegraph.co.uk:
President Jacques Chirac of France stormed out of a European Union summit last night after a French employers' leader said that English was "the language of European business."
The walk-out, seen by Tony Blair, prompted a sheepish exit by the French foreign, finance and Europe ministers and threatened to derail the summit before it had begun.
The officials were meeting to resolve growing concerns regarding several EU countries erecting trade barriers to inhibit cross-border competition.
As I recall, not too long ago the French passed some sort of resolution which outlawed the term "email" in Internet communications because it was English. Chirac's display yesterday is consistent with the email resolution and indicative of French arrogant nationalism and rejection of homogeneity, diversity and integration.
Chirac subsequently defended his walkout.
"I have to say I was profoundly shocked to see a Frenchman express himself in English at the (EU) Council table. That's why the French delegation and myself walked out rather than listen to that," Chirac told reporters.
So, it comes down to profound shock that a Frenchman spoke English at an EU meeting. I'd guess Spanish and Arabic would also have been out of the question. Or, maybe not. It could be that he only has a boner for the English language.
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I'm just trying to remember the last time the French actually did anything constructive for the EU or the world in general ?
Childish arrogance along with constant bitchin and moaning seem to be the norm with the frogs.
Posted by: rob at March 24, 2006 12:11 PM (QpkBe)
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Didn't the French sink a Greenpeace ship?
Posted by: Mike at March 24, 2006 12:29 PM (g7eZx)
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Maybe Chirac was just trying to distract attention away from the riots back home....
Posted by: WM at March 24, 2006 12:55 PM (3aCNQ)
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This story and Olbermann story got me suspicious people are warming up for April 1.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at March 24, 2006 01:34 PM (ffPYG)
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Caption:
Forgot to put in my teeth this morning and who put that banana in front this mic?
Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2006 01:46 PM (Z2OsI)
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Chiraq looks like a jerk and stupid as ever why dont they just vote to remove that idiot he is a jerk
Posted by: sandpiper at March 24, 2006 08:58 PM (162Hn)
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That picture looks like the Simpson episode where the French are gloating about showing the world that they are not a bunch of frogs and then laughing like frogs with their necks bulging.
HON-HON-HON!
Posted by: Apesnake at March 24, 2006 09:56 PM (scKzN)
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Hi, Chirac did not walked away because M.Seilliere spoke english (Chirac is fluent in english and has certainly no problem with the language!), but because M.Seilliere, who started his speech in french, suddendly turned to english because he said "english is the language for business". English is no more the language of business than french is the language of poetry, or italian the language of arts. Any speech can be given in any language, in other words, a language is not used according to the content of a speech but according to your audience. In this case, the audience was the european council and as far as I know, the very vast majority of attendants don't have english as their mother tongue. All speeches are translated anyway and english was absolutely not necessary. M. Chirac was right to point out this anomaly, but wrong to walk out, he should have said to the audience "Et maintenant, mesdames et messieurs, we are going to hear M.Seilliere speech". That would have had much more impact...
Posted by: Patrick EMIN at March 25, 2006 04:17 AM (BBrfi)
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Well, I for one like hearing about Chuck "THE HAMMER" Martel. Still seems petty what happened.
Posted by: REMF at March 25, 2006 05:55 AM (7RMSi)
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I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that more Europeans use English as a second language than other languages. And I think that is the point Seilliere was making. The truth is Chirac has a particular disdain for that very fact. Chirac's behavior implies he is concerned with his own country losing its French identity by adopting idioms not French in origin (as demonstrated with his displeasure over the term "email"), but he must understand that some things are beyond his control. If English does become more widely used as a universal business language anywhere, it's not due to some evil machinations by the US, the Brits or the Aussies. It just simply happened that way. If Seilliere stood up and claimed that German was the language of business, Cirac would have been just as upset.
I would venture to guess that Chirac's "nationalist mood" stems from the same problem we have ourselves here in the US with the wave of Hispanics who don't learn English which threatens our own identity. France is being overrun with the Muslim culture, as well as others, and the lack of assimilation of these into the French culture is what has him riled up. I agree with Patrick that if he's upset over Seilliere's statement that's fine, I don't blame him for wanting to preserve the French identity, but walking out was just another of his tantrums. I think he's even more angry because it was a fellow Frenchman that said it. I don't think Cirac knows what to do about the problems facing his own country culturally and he's just lashing out.
And I just love that picture of him.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 06:24 AM (YudAC)
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"Any speech can be given in any language"
You don't really mean you can talk about decent food in English?
Posted by: Luke at March 25, 2006 06:54 AM (cRuHr)
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Not just in Europe Oyster, but all over the world, English is generally the
de facto language of business among those who do not understand each others' first languages, except in backward places that are still trying to get camel caravans past bandits in the mountains.
In every nation on this planet, someone who speaks English can be found, and this cannot be said of any other language, so English wins. Patrick is just trying to be a multiculti apologist.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 25, 2006 07:10 AM (0yYS2)
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Such a childish attitude. Not surprising for a 'leader' that pays much more attention to words than to actions....
Posted by: Filou at March 25, 2006 01:16 PM (iO7Nv)
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"email" isn't the only technical term the French won't use. I used to build systems and do limited Tech Support at a neighbor's computer business that built network systems for neurosurgeons.
One of our customers had just come over from France and could speak english, but he absolutely refused to use 'english' terms that everyone else in the world uses for computer equipment. I can't remember any terms specifically...it's been 8 or so years. I don't know what was worse though, him assuming everyone should use the 'superior' French terms or listening to him whining about how long it took to get anything done.
I think they're just mentally stuck in the 1700's, when french was the equivalent for business and politics as english is today.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at March 25, 2006 01:54 PM (GyNTD)
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Language is communication. Duh!!! As times and needs change, the sign of a healthy society is one that allows its language to flow with those changes. The french have earned their reputation for being behind the times and impotent in world concerns. (Did anyone else learn in world history class how they lost the homeland to germany during WWII because they cemented their guns into turrets facing the border? Problem was, the germans snuck up from behind! The gunners couldn't defend their position because they couldn't pivot the guns to cover their own backs! And who had to fight and die to liberate them? Well, let's just say, it was a joint effort by people who mostly spoke english. Cemented in! Their brilliance is blinding!!) Their continuing refusal to allow the french vocabulary to expand, even when it means having a stronger position in the world market, is just one more example of their national genius. Maybe the french language will finally lie down and die, living on in other, stronger languages in countries that have maintained enough sense of selfworth to adopt "foreign" phrases into their verbage. Latin anyone?
Posted by: SaphFire at March 26, 2006 10:04 AM (/7O4c)
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Ha! That picture is practically a fisk in itself.
Don't know why you're complaining, Jack. Arabic will be the official language of Paristine before long. I give it 10 years.
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"Any speech can be given in any language"
You don't really mean you can talk about decent food in English?
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Whatever the language I'd rather talk about the food in england than the obesity statistics in other places
Posted by: rob at March 26, 2006 03:53 PM (jaQRE)
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Chrirac would never walk out if the speech was in Arabic, the crazy jihadists will be waiting outside for him with sharpened blades and heavy jackets.
Posted by: MathewK at March 26, 2006 05:55 PM (pVHqF)
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Chirac would never walk out if the speech was in Arabic, the crazy jihadists will be waiting outside for him with sharpened blades and heavy jackets.
Posted by: MathewK at March 26, 2006 05:55 PM (pVHqF)
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Chirac is just lose, france is the biggest money money spender in EU. If they want to quit from EU many people will be very happy..
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Congressman Pushes For States Rights
Alabama Congressman Robert Aderholt is sponsoring the
Constitution Restoration Act, which is intended to return some power to the states that has been taken by the Federal judiciary:
WASHINGTON, DC -- Congressman Robert Aderholt (R-Haleyville) announced today in Alabama that he has introduced "The Constitution Restoration Act" (H.R. 3799), a bill requiring the federal courts to operate within the jurisdiction given to them by the United States Constitution as it pertains to the public acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, and government.
I foresee some sticky issues with Constitutional rights and duties colliding. For Aderholt's perspective, you can read this
interview with the Congressman by Jay at
Stop the ACLU.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Is that word "God" mentioned in the Constitution of these United States ? I don't recall it but civics class was quite a while back
Posted by: john Ryan at March 24, 2006 08:08 PM (TcoRJ)
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 09:10 PM (YudAC)
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Our Constitution has been absolutely shredded by both The Republicans and Democrats...
We need to vote these bums out of office and start over...
Mike Sylvester
Posted by: LP Mike Sylvester at March 24, 2006 10:29 PM (dFDjo)
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This will be interesting to watch.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 25, 2006 07:15 AM (0yYS2)
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Vote them all out ? why bothe,r we could do better just by picking names at random out of the phone book.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 02:03 PM (TcoRJ)
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Yes return us to our constitution and away from the UN Charter its time to evict the UN from our country for good
Posted by: sandpiper at March 25, 2006 02:23 PM (zj1n9)
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I'm not a believer, but I am highly disturbed by the unlawful siezure of power that has been executed by the judiciary.
Of course, state and local governments, themselves, are in violation of 10th Amendment by passing these "acknowledgements" with 0 input from the citizens.
Posted by: MegaTroopX at March 26, 2006 11:45 AM (yT/Rw)
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We have the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box to serve our society. But the ballot box is stuffed, and the jury box is stacked. The cartridge box is all that's left to us.
It's about time to unseat the government if they don't get their shit together pretty soon. It is our right and our duty as citizens to protect our nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and our hapless, hopeless imbeciles in Washington don't know shit from parched corn, and are proving every day that they are not up to the task. Arm yourselves now, because tomorrow may be too late.
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"[Oppose] with manly firmness [any] invasions on the rights of the people." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. (*) Papers 1:338
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429
Here's the big one:
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?
Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356
...Just thinking out loud...
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Anti-Terror Website Hacked
The
Tracking Terrorism website has been hijacked by a hacker seeking autonomy for Northern Cyprus. The website, which normally tracks the activities of terror organizations through open source material, greeted readers with this message today:
Hacked by Kelmahir
We are from Turkish republic of northern cyprus...We want to freedoom
for Turkish republic of northern cyprus
The message also directed readers to the
TRNC website. Below is a screenshot from of Tracking Terrorism's hacked website.
more...
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Earthquake? I hope your stupid island will be hit by one! btw I heard tourisme has droped after those cartoon riots..(picture me, sticking my toung out!)
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Muhammed Cartoons Published with Quotes
What could possibly be worse than publishing cartoons mocking Muhammed? Cartoons mocking Muhammed with quotes from Muhammed! Now, how about that fatwa?
I'm going camping. If I don't get a fatwa by the time I get back, my blogging days are over.
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The thing that makes them so angry is that, all be forgiven if they go back to Islam,... but they refuse and rather die!!
Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2006 12:16 PM (Z2OsI)
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I'm going camping. If I don't get a fatwa by the time I get back, my blogging days are over.
Dude, you have a Catch-22 of an incentive working there...
Posted by: tee bee at March 24, 2006 12:30 PM (q1JHF)
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Noooo!!!! Someone get this guy a Fatwa right freaking now!!!!!!!
Posted by: Howie at March 24, 2006 02:11 PM (D3+20)
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i can't fatwa you
but Ill fat wad you.
Posted by: billy faeth at March 24, 2006 03:09 PM (Lc35u)
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Have you done a Danish Cartoon caption contest yet? Maybe I missed it...if I missed it, will you do it again?...these cartoons make me laugh.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at March 24, 2006 04:52 PM (aH6Zf)
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Give the man a fatwa, boys!
Posted by: Nightfighter at March 24, 2006 09:39 PM (hrkNh)
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While I am not an Imam, a Mullah or even a Muslim, I am willing to try anything once. (Stand back everyone. If this goes wrong I might accidentally turn someone into a toad)
I pronounce a fatwa that you, Dr. Rusty Shackleford, for your sacrilege, should be rendered unconscious via a hail of pancakes.
I wonder what I should do for my next trick. (Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.)
Posted by: Apesnake at March 24, 2006 09:50 PM (scKzN)
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Dude, you forgot "PBUH". What were you thinking?
Posted by: Don Long at March 25, 2006 02:13 AM (QdMA1)
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Apesnake, I'm sure Rusty appreciates your efforts, but he has stated unequivocably that it has to be a real fatwa by a real radical Imam.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 06:27 AM (YudAC)
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I am sure some radical goat abusing Imman is getting a fatwa ready, oh and sharpening his sword as well.
Posted by: Fidothedog at March 25, 2006 07:13 AM (axQ8U)
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Can't you see...the muslims are hitting back at you big time by refusing a fatwa....cunning little bastards that they are.
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That would look good on a t-shirt.
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More Christians Arrested in Afghanistan
Thanks religion of tolerance!
Compass:
During the past few days, Compass has confirmed the arrest of two other Afghan Christians elsewhere in the country. Because of the sensitive situation, local sources requested that the location of the jailed converts be withheld.
This past weekend, one young Afghan convert to Christianity was beaten severely outside his home by a group of six men, who finally knocked him unconscious with a hard blow to his temple. He woke up in the hospital two hours later but was discharged before morning.
“Our brother remains steadfast, despite the ostracism and beatings,” one of his friends said.
Several other Afghan Christians have been subjected to police raids on their homes and places of work in the past month, as well as to telephone threats.
Via
Robert Spencer.
Via Pundi and Michelle:
Rally against Islamofascism!
Noon to 1pm
Outside the Afghan Embassy
2341 Wyoming Ave NW.
Washington DC
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Alarm!!!
Genocide in Afghanistan, Christians getting round up and murdered....Wake up the Pope!
Posted by: Dan at March 24, 2006 11:55 AM (Z2OsI)
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Hmmm, Does anyone believe what you write? but then, ppl believed weapons of mass destruction and war mongers too!
Posted by: Afghan at March 24, 2006 03:20 PM (eRNuB)
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I'm not criticizing (at this point) but I haven't heard much from Islamic leaders in North America about this case. We hear about Political leaders from the west expressing condemnation but nothing from Muslim leaders. I haven't seen anything, maybe it's just not being covered. I dunno.
Posted by: Darren at March 24, 2006 03:21 PM (0punS)
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CAIR did issue a statement.
Posted by: Howie at March 24, 2006 03:23 PM (D3+20)
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Perhaps our State Department forgot to include page 2 "Religious Freedom and Democracy" in the packet that they sent over to set up the Afghan Constitution.
Posted by: LeRoy at March 25, 2006 09:48 AM (pCSuS)
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'Moderate' Clerics: Christian Convert Must Die, "Cut off his head!"
Clearly, Islam is
the religion of peace.
CNN:
Senior Muslim clerics are demanding that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."...
"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001....
But three Sunni preachers and a Shiite one interviewed by The Associated Press in four of Kabul's most popular mosques said they do not believe Rahman is insane.
"He is not crazy. He went in front of the media and confessed to being a Christian," said Hamidullah, chief cleric at Haji Yacob Mosque. "The government is scared of the international community. But the people will kill him if he is freed."
Raoulf, who is a member of the country's main Islamic organization, the Afghan Ulama Council, concurred. "The government is playing games. The people will not be fooled."
"Cut off his head!" he exclaimed, sitting in a courtyard outside Herati Mosque. "We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so there's nothing left."
He said the only way for Rahman to survive would be for him to go into exile.
But Said Mirhossain Nasri, the top cleric at Hossainia Mosque, one of the largest Shiite places of worship in Kabul, said Rahman must not be allowed to leave the country.
"If he is allowed to live in the West, then others will claim to be Christian so they can, too," he said. "We must set an example. ... He must be hanged."
"We are a small country and we welcome the help the outside world is giving us. But please don't interfere in this issue," Nasri said. "We are Muslims and these are our beliefs. This is much more important to us than all the aid the world has given us."
It's not like Muhammed didn't approve of killing apostates, so why is it shocking news when 'moderate' Muslims want to get back to that old-time religion and execute those who have left the faith?
Hat tip to our good friend Mike who has hung up the blogging gloves.
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Whoa, wait. Suddenly the law of that land is that no one can leave Afghanistan? When did they become a Soviet state?
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at March 24, 2006 10:32 AM (/lpvu)
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>>>Clearly, Islam is the religion of peace.
Yeah, I'm convinced.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 24, 2006 10:39 AM (8e/V4)
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Ernie is right on. During the cold war we did not sust poiunt out he things we disliked about communism and said ther rest is OK. No to transform it or win over the long term you have to attack communism itseld and then point to specific instances. Islam is no different. We need a comprehensive cold war type propaganda war to shame Islam into change or destruction. Small Warm wars are not enough. I note we did not have the left defending THE USSR. Well a few did but mostly our nation was united in the cold war. How we could do so well against that and not do the same now is just crazy. The only reason communism was more of a threat is because they held more power. Now looking back Islam makes communism look tame.
Posted by: Howie at March 24, 2006 10:45 AM (D3+20)
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Is conversion insulting to God, or merely insulting to the clerics, who have one person less to rule over.
Posted by: Graeme at March 24, 2006 10:51 AM (b83nn)
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There have been a lot of comparisons to the former Soviet Union and the will probably some more to come comparing Islam to fascism and the rule of the Nazi party. They both fit, when compared to the mind-numbing control they have over their people.
What ever happened to America taking a stand for people who suffered under the iron fist of religious persecution? ItÂ’s too bad this guy can't defect to an American installation. Its too bad that if he did the politically controlled military senior leadership and the mindless civilian leadership we have in some positions in this country would turn him away and over to the Taliban-Lite Imams and Clerics of that country. I really wonder what the outcome would be if this guy asked for asylum based on the grounds of religious persecution?
I have been in Iraq now for 11 months, and I have been here training Iraqi soldiers for the entire time, and I can tell you through direct interaction with these "Muslims"...most of them follow the religion when it suits their purposes. There are they few, maybe 20%, that are hardcore Muslims. For the most part though, the officials I interact with, the soldiers, the Clerics, Imams, Governors, sheiks, and everyone else use the religion of Islam in a manner suitable to better their own positions. For instance, I catch the Governor of the province stealing large sums of cash...he shrugs his shoulders and says, "it is the way of things, and everyone is corrupt." I remind him that Islamic law requires his hand to be removed for stealing (a crime against Allah) and he just shrugs his shoulders and waves it off as no big deal. On the other hand, we couldn't get him to go to work for a month during Ramadan because he was to righteous to leave the house and too tired from not eating or drinking during the day, we can't get him to get politically involved with the Imams because they speak the holy word of Allah and Islam is absolute, and worst yet, we bore witness to the aftermath of the stoning of his third wife for talking to a man on the streets because she brought dishonor to his family and his tribe. Fair-weather Muslims, I say.
The question to theorize about and to discuss is not whether or not the Afghani Clerics are right or wrong, whether or not their religion is wacko or not (I think we can answer those questions pretty much with out discussion) but rather to try and understand what the Imams and Clerics stand to gain from this aspect of Islamic interpretation and the hard stance for it. There are literally thousands of other things they could focus their religious rage, power, and influences upon. They could point the Koran at the Muslims killing Muslims in the country, or at the rampant crime in the country, or the drug trade, or the negligent treatment towards children; all of which are against the writings of Mohammed and the will of Allah. What are they going to gain from this and what is the downside for them?
I think a lot of the world is blind to the reality of this portion of the country. It is so much akin to the influence and power of the Catholic Empire during the Spanish inquisition, or to the reasons why people fled to America, because there are huge portions of the populace that are suffering under the abusive positions of power bestowed upon corrupt and power hungry Imams and Clerics. Open your eyes. We are watching our own history in a manner of speaking.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 24, 2006 11:49 AM (UItaE)
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Makes you wonder what the reactions of some of these moderates would be if a North American or European Christian converted to Islam, was beaten for it, and then threatened with death by the state. I'm sure they'd all view it as simply the law of the country in which it was occuring and move on to other business.
Posted by: Venom at March 24, 2006 12:05 PM (dbxVM)
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Gunny,
"...most of them follow the religion when it suits their purposes."
Sounds like another religion I know of. Come to think of it, it sounds like every religion I've ever come in contact with.
"The question to theorize about and to discuss is... rather to try and understand what the Imams and Clerics stand to gain from this aspect of Islamic interpretation and the hard stance for it."
This is good question. I suspect it's similar to what drove the Nazis. Why did they single out the Jews when they could have set the people to work on serious problems? Part of it is that it's a problem that doesn't shoot back. This makes it a risk-free way to look pious and gain public favor while fighting a hated enemy.
And hate him, they do. I don't think the clerics are lying about that. The Afghan-in-the-street interviews I'm seeing are showing folks calling for blood. Are most Muslims hypocrites? Maybe. But most Christians are hypocrites too, but that didn't make burning witches and tarring Mormons any less popular. Rahman's life is over in Afghanistan regardless of what the court does. The people really will pull him to pieces. And if the clerics stand in their midst urging them on, they might gain some prestige for taking a stand on core religious values and confronting the infidel West.
On the other hand, trying to get the people worked up about Islamic rules that they don't really care about (like caring for your wives and kids properly) or that would cost them money (like not dealing dope) would rather cost the clerics political capital than gain them anything.
That's my guess anyway, but you'd know better than I how accurate it is.
Posted by: ShannonKW at March 24, 2006 12:40 PM (dT1MB)
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ShannonKW
"I suspect it's similar to what drove the Nazis. Why did they single out the Jews when they could have set the people to work on serious problems? Part of it is that it's a problem that doesn't shoot back. This makes it a risk-free way to look pious and gain public favor while fighting a hated enemy."
I completely agree. It is a cowardÂ’s stance. It is always easy to steal lunch money from the small kid.
"And hate him, they do...The people really will pull him to pieces."
They will your right. However, we shouldn't get mob frenzy and intelligent thought confused. I work with the Iraqi military. Since they have no banking system they have to physically take money home to their families. No problem. We send them home for 7 days a month for vacation and to take pay home. When we arrived to begin training they were taking 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. That means that US Army and US Marines are fighting the war over here 24/7 and the Iraqi Army (who is supposed to be taking over) is working 6 months out of the year. When we directed the change, the Iraqi soldiers RIOTED. They burned stuff, tore stuff down, beat themselves, and threw their weapons and uniforms away. Point being, all that was over a 7 day change in the schedule. This is a culture that is used to over-reaction and to "making a statement". Everything they do is for your viewing pleasure. I just wouldn't get too caught up in the mass group rhetoric. The same people that danced around Saddam H's fallen statue are the same people that will the next day dance in the streets next to a destroyed US vehicle with body parts strewn across the street. They just react...with very little thought and they definetly flow with the tide, like desert nomads. There is a significant Mob mentality in this country and it is a cultural trait that is foreign to a more Privacy Oriented American point of view.
"that would rather cost the clerics political capital than gain them anything."
Point ON!!
"That's my guess anyway, but you'd know better than I how accurate it is."
I think you are right on the button. Calculated gain, maximum exposure, minimal risk. The cowards fight. If the Imams and Clerics would stand up to terrorist Muslims who kill Muslims in direct violation of the Koran...then, they might be on to something. It is typical religious hypocrisy (but that, I think, is a whole different conversation).
Posted by: The Gunny at March 24, 2006 01:39 PM (UItaE)
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They're not going to stand up to Muslim on Muslim violence, because a Shiite is kaffir in the eyes of a Sunni, and vice versa. They don't need a reason for it. They'll just create one.
What a God awful mess these people are.
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 02:57 PM (MkwVi)
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Gunny, the problem has now come to our shores. What do you suggest happen here, as Islam is growing.
Please do not compare this subject to Europes past. I am talking right now, right here.
Thank you for your service to our country.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 24, 2006 04:04 PM (D2g/j)
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Leatherneck,
First off, let me say “Semper Fidelis”.
Now...on to the discussion.
"the problem has now come to our shores. What do you suggest happen here, as Islam is growing."
Well, I am not too sure that American Muslims are going to be quite the problems as they are in the Middle East. We have this great thing called "Separation of church and state"; allowing this nation to proceed and develop laws not based on the bible (more or less) or the Koran, but developed on a collective elected moral agenda. We have a government that is fluid and expendable, and we have the right to deny or accept religion at whim. They don't. Every country in the Middle East is dominated be Religion. It permeates every facet of their life. Channel 8, Ali Al Salem TV, is the 100% prayer channel, all day, every day, and is the most watched channel in the region. You asked me not to allude to European history and I won't, but I will say that one of the saving graces in this country was the Constitution taking religious power out of the government, a prime reason for a large amount of our founding fathers immigration to this nation. The Afghani constitution states that no law can be made which is against the Koran and/or Islamic law. Could you imagine if the US Constitution said no law could be made that goes against the bible? I think we would have a significantly different culture. Old Testament or New? Kosher or not?
America will be little affected by Islam. The practitioners of Islam in America are bound by American law first and the Koran second. They cannot have two wives, they cannot stone their wives in the streets, and they sure as hell cannot kill another Muslim because he up and decides to become a Christian, a wiccan, or a scientologist. It is just illegal.
What should America do? HOLD THE LINE. Stay strong to the principals that have made her strong. Don't fold to the international pressure to give in. That is OUR hallmark. We MUST allow all people to have the freedom to follow their religious beliefs, within the law, but we must ensure that the law protects all people, Muslim and Christian, Sunni and Shiite, Tom Cruise and Hillary Clinton. We must endure that our government stays secular or becomes even more secular. There are a lot of people that get bent out of shape about prayer in school, in god we trust, and all that other hoop-lah. I for one am not an advocate of changing the pledge of allegiance or the national anthem, but I think we should be a little more sensitive to the effects of religion in the government. While we are, for the most part, free of theocratic involvement in overall politico, we should be aware of what happens when you let it in. Do you want Muslims prayer in your school mandated five times a day? ItÂ’ll happen if Christian Prayer in school is allowed. It is just a matter of time. When you take a stance against something, you have to stand still and not tap dance around the issue. Mad about a Muslim Government preaching the Koran and manipulating the country based on their religious views? Probably. Mad about a Christian governmental head expounding his views from the political pulpit? Probably not.
Is that right? Should religion be allowed in the government? Who knows? I think it should be minimized just to be fair to the melting pot called USA. You can only let it in so much, until it builds, permeates, and then the levy breaks and itÂ’s Louisiana all over again.
When a Mosque in downtown L.A. sounds it’s little horn and commences to Jummah on Friday I celebrate a little on the inside because it means America is still free and my oath “to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, BOTH foreign and domestic” has been fulfilled. When that mosque is denied the right to holler like a dying cat or some Cleric decided to kill his wife because she talked to the fruit vendor at Piggly Wiggly, well then it is time to drop the proverbial hammer and let the system run.
but thats just a dumb grunts opinion.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 24, 2006 04:50 PM (UItaE)
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That doesn't sound anything like dumb statements from a dumb grunt to me.Actually,sir it sounds very statesmen like and also you throw out a lot of wisdom,two bad our modern day pols couldn't give the explanation you just did.Also,Thank you for your service and Semper Fi
Posted by: Lisa Gilliam at March 25, 2006 03:39 AM (gKWPu)
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Our only problem here is determining which Muslims respect the law of the land and which ones are coming over here to attempt rally support for a radical agenda or to use our system against us. We fail somewhat in that respect. Yet, for the most part those Muslims here in the states are freedom loving people and are here to escape Sharia law and oppression. They understand what is at stake.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 06:44 AM (YudAC)
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I hope you are right, Oyster, I hope you are right. But I doubt I. We'll see.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 25, 2006 08:39 AM (rUyw4)
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And at the same time the liberal left-wing news media are always yammering about christian fundalmentalists who oppose evolution,sex education, revionists history,enviromentalist education, and such and hardly say a thing about the radical clerics
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South Park vs. Mission Impossible vs. the Catholic Church
First, Tom Cruise
threatened not to promote his new
Mission Impossible movie unless
Comedy Central (which is owned by
Viacom, a sister company to
Paramount, which produced
Mission Impossible III) agreed not to rerun a
South Park episode mocking Scientology.
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This week's south park spoofs the whole Isaac Hayes/South Park/Scientology controversy.
Posted by: h0mi at March 24, 2006 09:49 AM (YQFEd)
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I 2nd your "Shenanigans" and raise you a "JewBillie".
I watch South Park on a hit and miss basis. Some episodes are completely stupid, some are offensive, but there are others that are Jewels.
Mecha-Striesand, Rosie O'Donell(sp) and Starvin' Marvin are good examples.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at March 24, 2006 10:15 AM (Vlk3K)
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Oh NO!
You mean that Tom Cruise won't promote another crappy Hollywood sequel that will never come close to the fantastic workings of the original? Whatever shall we do?! Hollywood might not benefit from its cheap methods of money making, and learn that they have to *gasp* come up with new ideas?
Sure South Park bashed on Scientology, but what religion hasn't it mocked? Matt and Trey have made it clear that they don't oppose any single religion or belief, they just want to harass them all. And the more Scientologists are outraged, the happier Matt and Trey will be, and scientology will find more mockery in store for them.
Posted by: Lee Witt at March 24, 2006 02:01 PM (cWv1e)
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By refusing to promote his own film, which cost the studio millions, Cruise has put a gun in his mouth and is threatening to pull the trigger. No studio should ever hire him again for such a stupendously stupid act.
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"No studio should ever hire him again for such a stupendously stupid act."
One can only hope...
Posted by: Darth Chef at March 25, 2006 01:14 PM (uedbm)
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DANG YOU MAVRIC YOU HAVE BECOME ABSOLUTLY IMPOSSIBLE SINCE YOU GOT YOURSELF INVOLVED WITH THOSE SCIENTOLOGY FREAKS AND JESTERS GOING TO GROUND YOU SUCKER
Posted by: sandpiper at March 25, 2006 02:31 PM (zj1n9)
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I am Catholic and my brother is a Catholic Priest and we both watch the show with a grain of salt. People like tom cruise is just a person with influence and he wields it very recklessly. Remember mr. cruise what goes around comes around....
Posted by: Paul Labbe at March 25, 2006 03:06 PM (LA1N6)
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rabble rabble,,.. RABBLE RABBLE!!
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March 23, 2006
I See You've Met My Poodle
Yes, my poodle followed me here.
That's my poodle piddling on the comments.
He started at one of my posts at MVRWC, then followed me home, and then went to the wife's, and now he's here.
Remember though, he's just a poodle. Like all poodles, all he can do is yap. He has no bite.
He also follows commands like a good poodle. For example, he first dropped his poodle turds over 200 times at my blog. Then I pointed out to him that because every poodle turd was under a different IP address, he just raised my stats enough for me to jack up my BlogAd rates, which I did. My poodle turds have dropped significantly.
He also originally posted some poodle turds as "Fisting Fool." However, he changed it to "F1sting Fool" when I pointed out to him that the term "fisting" would draw tons of Google hits to my site, thereby allowing me to again raise my BlogAd rates.
Good poodle.
So, ignore the poodle piddling in the comments. He's mine, and he knows it.
And since there are 29 authors on this blog, it shouldn't be a problem cleaning up the poodle turds as soon as they appear. Sorry poodle.
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Poodles normally have bad breath because they spend most of the time licking their own anus, or eating their own feces.
A thought to ponder.
Posted by: davec at March 23, 2006 08:53 PM (CcXvt)
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It just makes you wonder how big a coward, and how mentally unbalanced somebody has to be to act out like this.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 23, 2006 09:00 PM (RHG+K)
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Yawn, he's really getting boring.
Who wants to trade Melissa Theriau pics?
Posted by: Vinnie at March 23, 2006 09:04 PM (f289O)
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Save us, super, PixyMisa!!
(\.\n\.\n.\n\.) !!!
Posted by: davec at March 23, 2006 10:00 PM (CcXvt)
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Mheh, I'm gonna go watch a movie.
I have a life, unlike my poodle.
Posted by: Vinnie at March 23, 2006 10:04 PM (f289O)
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He/she is probably bi-polar like Debra Lafave.
Posted by: RepJ at March 23, 2006 10:42 PM (KpfBT)
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Whats with all the dots??
Poodles like their own bums and eat their own crap, well that explains why they are so angry and aggressive all the time, i would be too if had to do the same.
Posted by: MathewK at March 23, 2006 11:03 PM (pVHqF)
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Don't worry. We asians are known for eating dogs...
we'll eat away your problem
HA HA CHINA
Posted by: billy faeth at March 24, 2006 12:10 AM (vgNyM)
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Back from the movie. Just had to watch "The 40 Year Old Virgin."
Reminded me of a certain poodle.
So, what'd I miss?
Oh, more periods.
Wow, I'm impressed.
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Jihadi vs. Jihadi: Zarqawi Threatens 'Moderate' Terrorist
I just love this CNN interview with the son of Hamas founder Abdullah Azzam explaining the division that erupted in the late 1980s between Azzam and Osama bin Laden. Apparently Azzam's "kill all the Jews" policy was a little too
moderate for bin Laden. The Muslim Brotherhood, the radical Egyptian organization which bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri once belonged to, is believed to be behind Azzam's murder. The family feud continues today when the adopted heir to the al Qaeda legacy, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, recently delivered a personal threat to the son of the Hamas founder, Huthaifa Azzam.
What would have been really interesting is if, instead of a slipping a CD with a personal message under the door, Zarqawi would have left a bloody decapitated horse's head on Azzam's pillow. Never go against the family Azzam.
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I bet the conversation went something as follows: " I am a better moon god worshipper than you. No you're not. I'm going to tell Mom. I am going to cut your head off Jew lover!"
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 23, 2006 07:09 PM (D2g/j)
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It goes a little deeper than that, it's believed al-Zawahiri, and Mohammed Atef, planted the carbomb.
Posted by: davec at March 23, 2006 10:11 PM (CcXvt)
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"Jews durka durka infidels durka durka Jews durka durka apostate durka durka jihad durka durka Mohammed durka durka allahu akbar durka durka durka." An actual, genuine transcript of the conversation.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at March 24, 2006 04:28 AM (CtVG6)
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Maybe someone ought to send Zarqawi a letter back full of petty insults like calling him a woman and throw a few Mohammed cartoons in the envelope and sign it "Azzam". P.S. I had your wife and she ain't that great.
Think that might ratchet up the infighting?
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 05:55 AM (YudAC)
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Heh. Reminds me of the SNL skit called "Goth Talk", or something like that, where a bunch of losers sat around someone's basement in their makeup, each proclaiming
"I'm way more goth than you are."
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 24, 2006 06:09 AM (0yYS2)
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I doubt it Oyster. The reply Azzam'll get would be: "Welcome to my world." Much the same as what you'd get if you sent an identical package to Bill Clinton.
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