September 29, 2005

The Heavies

I’m still politicked out so I’m going to put up a list of the twenty best bad guys in the movie business. These are actors who would, if I were flipping channels and saw these guys clutching a tommy gun and spraying a cop car with lead, make me stop and watch for a few minutes. Or they might break the tie if I were deciding between two schlock action films. I’m picking out actors here, as opposed to characters, and while you’ll probably find most of them somewhat pedestrian there were a few I had to look up on IMDB—they were always just filed under “Oh, that guy!” This list inclines away from horror and toward action, crime, and Westerns, but hey, so do I. So click below, and here we go: 20. Gary Oldman—If you can recognize him under all that makeup, he’s probably in there kicking some major butt. I think his turn as Stansfield in The Professional was probably his best, though Mason Verger was pretty creepy.
19. Rutger Hauer—yeah, a guilty pleasure, since he has been in some truly awful films. But The Hitcher gave me nightmares.
18. Lee Van Cleef—Dude got them crazy eyes. He was Good as the Bad in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and a quite menacing Frank Miller in High Noon.
17. Danny Trejo—If the Latin Drug Lord sends his enforcer after you, it’s probably this guy. He was Johnny 23 in Con Air, Razor Johnny in From Dusk Till Dawn, the nameless hitman in The Replacement Killers, and countless other cannon-fodder roles.
16. Ronny Cox—Sometimes evil needs a respectable, corporate face. It’s not all knives and nukes; there’s usually a WASPy guy with clean fingernails and a firm handshake calling the shots. Ronny Cox is that guy. Whether running a colony on Mars in Total Recall or an amoral corporation in Robocop, Cox is The Man.
15. Christopher Lee—The ubervillain. Scaramanga, Dooku, Saruman. Lee’s been in plenty of crap movies I’ve never heard of, but he’s been in some great crap movies too. This guy has led an absolutely fascinating life—he actually met JRR Tolkien and Lee's distant relative, Ian Fleming, personally recommended he be cast as Dr. No, though he later got into the inferior Man With The Golden Gun (and having reviewed that trainwreck on AMC the other day, I can say Lee was the best thing about it, except for Britt Ekland; rowr.). He’s also the reason I don’t need to include Alan Rickman in this list.
14. Al Lettieri—Had they been contemporaries, would probably have played Danny Trejo’s boss. The guy just seems angry all the time and he looks like Carlos the Jackal. But he’s got that elegant/sinister thing down pat. As Solozzo in the Godfather or as Santiago in John Wayne’s McQ, he commanded attention. “Blood is a big expense!”
13. Steve Buscemi—I don’t think I need to explain this choice. He plays a ratfink creep like nobody’s business.
12. Bill Duke—I love this guy. He’s always a competent, sober villain whom you don’t want on your tail—or when he plays a good guy, as in the head DEA guy in The Limey or Mac in Predator, definitely someone you’d want at your back. I first saw him as “Cooke” in Commando and he’s popped up everywhere since then. His IMDB entry is woefully incomplete, since it leaves off the Limey and his role as a corrupt cop in Payback. Ving Rhames without the twinkle.
11. Ronald Lacey—When I have nightmares about Nazis, they have the face of Toht from Raiders of the Lost Ark—sometimes in mid-melt. Peter Lorre was never so menacing. “Shooooot them—shoot them both!”
10. Ric Young— I first saw this guy in the Corruptor as the Triad boss. He was so oily and effete and Mephistophelean that I just despised the guy. It’s a good actor who can inspire such loathing that you actually dislike the actor, not just the character. But then I realized I’d also seen him as a fanatical Maoist interrogator in The Last Emperor and he was pretty good there too, as a completely different kind of bad guy. He pops up in the club scene in the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom as well.
9. Sean Bean—Boromir, yeah, but also the backstabbing Alec Trevelyan in Goldeneye and even better, the unstable, sadistic Spence in Ronin. And he was fine in Patriot Games. Excellent Brit psycho.
8. Warren Oates. Sam Peckinpah used him several times and I can see why. HeÂ’s a little like #4 below, but more likeable and a little more country. His Dillinger was pitch-perfect.
7. Bill McKinney (honorable mention—Herbert “Cowboy” Coward). Don’t recognize the name? Maybe he’d prefer that. Burt Reynolds thought McKinney was a little too into his big scene in Deliverance. (I wonder how Ned Beatty felt? ) McKinney has ably played other nasty villains as well, like Captain “Redlegs” Terrell in The Outlaw Josey Wales. “Squeal Like a Pig! Wheeeeeek!”
6.Ian McShane—Do tell me how he’s doing in Deadwood. I know him only as the chilling, satanic Teddy Bass in Sexy Beast. I do not want to know him better. Brrr.
5. James Gandolfini. Not so much for the Sopranos as for his turn as a dead-eyed thug in True Romance. I thought at the time that that guy was going places. “Now I do it just to watch their expression change”.
4. Lee Marvin. A genuine WWII Marine badass, he could bring sociopathy to life like no one else—in the west, as Liberty Valance, or as a grim hitman in The Killers (he shoots Ronald Reagan, who did pretty good as a villain himself—in the sort of role Ronny Cox might play today.)
3. Dwight Yoakam—As Doyle in Sling Blade or as one of the housebreakers in Panic Room—or even in a quick cameo in Red Rock West—Dwight’s got the feral cranked-up psycho thing down really well. I know people that look and act like that and I don’t mess with them. I think he’s ready for a big-time role as a villain.
2. Powers Boothe. What a likeable villain. I was hoping heÂ’d kick Van DammeÂ’s Belgian gluteus in Sudden Death. And he was wonderfully hammy in Extreme Prejudice. But IÂ’ll let Dave at Garfield Ridge explain more of BootheÂ’s mystique since heÂ’s, er, quite taken with BootheÂ’s powers.
1. Why, Walken, of course. His only false note as a villain was in Things to do in Denver When you’re Dead, and that film was so bad anyway that it just doesn’t matter—if there’s a film in which to lay an egg, that’s it. King of New York, for my money, was his best performance.

Okay guys, in a fight between Walken and Powers Boothe, who would win? And who have I left out of this list? I might consider updating this with a few more (or less) names in the near future.

NB There arenÂ’t any women on this list because I canÂ’t recall any really memorable or credible female villains except for Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, which was fine but not quite enough for this list. Lotte Lenya as Rosa Klebb was originally on here but thatÂ’s the only thing she ever did. There are plenty of bad girls in Bond films, etc., but aside from Lenya no one IÂ’d sit through a movie to watch, at least for their villainous acting.

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1 Dude, you are such a geek. Seriously, I don't recognize half of these guys.

Posted by: Rusty at September 29, 2005 06:02 PM (JQjhA)

2 EDWARD G. ROBINSON is missing!

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at September 29, 2005 06:04 PM (x3Muy)

3 Yeah, he's a contender.

Posted by: See-Dubya at September 29, 2005 06:16 PM (c10Uw)

4 Er... You left out Al Pacino as Scarface and the Godfather. And, worse yet, if that's possible, you left out Jack Palance! Walken would kill Booth, no doubt, but Palance would kill them both on Pacino's orders. Here's how it goes down. Walken (next to a smiling Booth): "When you see the angels tell them you never saw evil so well personified as in the face of the man that killed you." Palance: "Smile when you say that." BOOM BOOM! Walken and Booth keel over. With his last Walken breathes- "I hate Jay Mohr." Al Pacino walks into the scene. BOOM! He dies. Parlance: "That's for S1M0NE, you sonofabitch."

Posted by: Harkonnendog at September 29, 2005 07:13 PM (1+1ME)

5 Not everyone's cup of tea, but how about: Yul Brenner - Not the quintessential typecast bad guy, but freaked the $hit out of me in Westworld as the gunslinging robot John Travolta - Perhaps too milquetoast for some, but I dug him in Swordfish and as Castor Troy in Face Off with Nick Cage. *prays that no one remembers his role in Battlefield Earth* Umm... oh! Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter (perhaps horror so not included for that reason) Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance in the Shining and Col. Jessep in A Few Good Men.

Posted by: RomeoDelta at September 29, 2005 07:22 PM (Srmrz)

6 Some of the actors named in the commentary play good guys as well as bad guys some in even proportions or proportions favoring the good guy. Jack Palance is an actor I have only really seen in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, I tell you I would have never known it was him in that movie. One guy I am trying to put into a bad guy role is Bogart but like Eastwood his typical role is slightly on the good side of neutral. Again, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre shows the type of bad guy he could have been. Wow, I am jonesing for a Bogart flick now probably Key Largo given I was just in Florida.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at September 29, 2005 07:34 PM (x3Muy)

7 Off the subject but once again George Bush and the good guys defeated the bad guys with the appointment of Roberts to head the Supreme Court. Will the same idiots like Pelosi and Kennedy ever learn? Probably not. They will keep crying and we will keep winning. The poles are stupid and must be taken from downtown bums sleeping in alleys or in Harlem. If the rules allowed George Bush to run again he would win again. But where is our next champion. I vote for IM or Filthy Allah. American wishes and needs to hear the truth for a change.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 07:58 PM (M7kiy)

8 Can't believe you left out Travolta.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 08:07 PM (M7kiy)

9 Just don't think Travolta is that good. Been in good films, but I'm never going to go to a film just because Travolta's in it.

Posted by: See-Dubya at September 29, 2005 08:16 PM (sF5cK)

10 James Cagney in some of those oldie but goodie ganster movies. Though seeing him in Yankee Doodle Dandy might be a disqualifier Michael Madsen - Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs And in a fight among all these guys, I'd put Marvin against any of 'em - heck he'd drill everyone straight with a look and a wink. Walken might be a nutcase, but put him against Madsen and we could have some real fun. Here's how it would go down. Mexican standoff. Walken, Marvin, Madsen, and Palance each have hand cannons pointed at each other. Only problem is that Walken decides to go all Deer Hunter and kills himself. Palance uses the opportunity to showcase his one armed pushups and Madsen gives him a close shave. Marvin takes 'em both out. The others on the list come in and see what happened to their compadres. Cagney and Robinson walk in with tommy guns and they make the Valentine's Day massacre look like a cakewalk. They both walk out, each with their hats cocked to the side just so. And they laugh into the sunset. Fade to black.

Posted by: lawhawk at September 29, 2005 08:44 PM (CjrGp)

11 DARTH VADER,GOLDFINGER,SCORPIO,SORON,KHAN SINGH,MR HYDE,THE BORG QUEEN,ZUR,DR NO,DR CLAW,LEX LUTHOR,GREEN GOBLIN,DR DOOM,

Posted by: sandpiper at September 29, 2005 08:45 PM (PObDu)

12 Here are a few more Bruce Willis - the Die Hard movies etc. Sly Stallone- all the Rambo movies and others Val Kilmer - I can't think of the movies names but he has played a lot of bad guys Joe Pesci- Goodfellows Charlie Bronson- Death Wish movies

Posted by: Wild Thing at September 29, 2005 11:13 PM (tj1zH)

13 I can't see why Christopher Lee is the reason you don't need to put Alan Rickman in this list? Please? Enlightenment?

Posted by: Marlina at September 30, 2005 03:01 AM (8yFeP)

14 I have the same question as Marlina. What does Christopher Lee have to do with Alan Rickman?

Posted by: Claudia, GA at September 30, 2005 04:21 AM (M7kiy)

15 Screeching monkeys! Kooky Klingy Klanrooster, you silly sod. DSM is not coming for ya, you vain, paranoid chickenmaster. Your head is full of methed-up fighting gerbils, clawing their way out trying to escape from the stench. Your Tracker Klan buddy knows you love Israel too? An Israel-loving Klansman? Brothers - the REAL Brothers aren't gonna clean your plantation for ya and Chimpie's got your strong kid off in the desert instead of in Pikayunia. You're a twisty-headed nutbag who got pregnant in jail and gave birth to porcupine backwards.

Posted by: Downin Street memo at September 30, 2005 05:30 AM (A5eqb)

16 Vincent Price.

Posted by: dittybopper at September 30, 2005 07:57 AM (j2M1Q)

17 Michael Madsen - Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs I can't hear the song "Stuck in the Middle with You" without thinking of this sadistic freak.

Posted by: Steve L. at September 30, 2005 08:22 AM (hpZf2)

18 WAIT? After Die Hard and Robin Hood, still no Alan Rickman? Rickman would have to be the quintessential sexy, snarky, suave British bad guy. He definitely makes my list. Maybe he's the ladies' favorite. I do give you props for Walken--he's a definite favorite of mine too.

Posted by: Bono at September 30, 2005 08:23 AM (uRSRX)

19 I think some of the posters don't realize that by heavies, we're referring to bad guys... not bad asses. Bruce Willis was the good guy in the Die Hard movies - bad ass yes, a heavy? Nope. However, that would once again show why Rickman should be on the list - Give me the Detonators. Mr. Tanaka wont be joining us for the rest of his life. "I read about them in Time magazine" And the look on his face when he was falling was priceless. Followed up with the Robin Hood movie. Classic baddie. Another heavy that deserves consideration though I think he lacks the real badass feeling of some of the others - Joaquim de Almeida - who was a baddie in Clear and Present Danger, and was Bucho in Desperado. Brains and brawn.

Posted by: lawhawk at September 30, 2005 09:12 AM (eppTH)

20 Rutger Hauer in The Hitcher and Bladerunner definitely. Cooly psychotic. Dennis Hopper. Blue Velvet. I thought of Michael Madsen because of Reservoir Dogs, but I think he tries too hard. I watch him and know he's acting and have a hard time becoming immersed. Even though it's horror, Nicholson in The Shining is absolutely the best. How about James Earl Jones? Sharon Stone?

Posted by: compos mentis at September 30, 2005 09:46 AM (xHpUK)

21 okay....good ones....Eli Wallach as Tuco, a semi-bad guy in his role, in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and as as Calavera in The Magnificent Seven....Klaus Kinski as the Hunchback in For a Few Dollars More....Gian Maria Volonte who was Indio in For a Few Dollars More and as one of the Rojos brothers in A Fistfull of Dollars....Herbert Lom as Chief Inspector Charles Dreyfus after he goes insane and repeatedly attempts to kill Clouseau....its comedy but he did make a good insane villian/former goodguy

Posted by: THANOS35 at September 30, 2005 01:51 PM (FMsU7)

22 Really? No Alan Rickman? Although I do agree with Christopher Lee being on the list, but come on! Even Rickman's romantic "I-am-going-to-seduce-you" voice sounds just this side of dangerous.

Posted by: Aurie at September 30, 2005 03:13 PM (N32PG)

23 What`s the thing with Christopher Lee?! Like that`s one of the most dumbest remarks ever. Why not mention Rickman??? Because they`re both british? And not to mention other movies, recently I saw both of the movies which starred Lee and Rickman as Rasputin. Both we`re brilliant in their own way, though the latest is definetly a MUST! I actually believe british actors upstage every other actor in the business when it comes to portraying a villain. See Robert Carlyle, also, Tim Roth, Ian Mckellen or Liam Neeson.Ian Macdiarmont also. And speaking of Star Wars, Hayden Christensen is not really the wus I thought he was. He did a pretty god job in the third episode.

Posted by: Alex at September 30, 2005 03:30 PM (XveyP)

24 Why not include Rickman?! O_o He is, if anybody, THE Uber-Villain! And, as someone else mentioned, he's also dangerously sexy. Come on, you can't possibly make a list of villains without Rickman! That doesn't make sense!

Posted by: TrekkieGrrrl at September 30, 2005 04:03 PM (fGDla)

25 You put Ian McShane at number 6 and you haven't seen him in Deadwood! The most unbelievabley original villan in recent memory. Sexy Beast was just an appetizer for what he had in store.

Posted by: Zed at September 30, 2005 06:23 PM (oSz7L)

26 i seem to have hit a nest of militant Rickman fans. Nothing wrond with him, and Hans in Die Hard was great; I just think the role of skinny,elegant, menacing Brit is owned by Christopher Lee. Just like the role of Asian mob boss, in my book, goes to Ric Young--which is the reason James "Lo Pan" Hong didn't make it. That and the fact that Hong likes like a really sweet guy and I think he's miscast as an archvillain.

Posted by: See-Dubya at September 30, 2005 07:24 PM (abOU0)

27 Shit, I forgot Walken. He's the winner all right. Boothe and McShane are both fantastic in Deadwood. Thoroughly believable killers, with style. Not sure why I'm so nutty for Roy Scheider in Romeo, he was hardly in it, but I do so love the line, "You know the difference between right and wrong. You just don't care. And that's the most natural thing in the world." He sure doesn't look so heavy when he's bound and gagged in the trunk of a car. Good list.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at September 30, 2005 08:42 PM (tCNMU)

28 Travolta is a better bad guy than he is a dancer.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 30, 2005 09:09 PM (ywZa8)

29 Anthony Hopkins is also not to be forgotten. I mean, come on, his portrayal of Hannibal Lecter is legendary. Oh, and I almost forgot Jeremy Irons. His voice only is enough to send you down the road to hell!

Posted by: Alex at October 01, 2005 02:18 AM (XveyP)

30 Have you seen Alan Rickman in Closet Land? I think that might clinch it.

Posted by: Glowbox at October 01, 2005 03:05 AM (YWVlk)

31 So there IS someone who saw Closet Land beside me!! Wow! This is big! That`s one hell of a cool movie!

Posted by: Alex at October 01, 2005 06:15 AM (XveyP)

32 Damn i forgot about MINI ME and the WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST THERES NOTHING LIKE A KINKY VILLIAN IN A MOVIE

Posted by: sandpiper at October 01, 2005 08:13 AM (4pkrX)

33 huhuhuu! give some senses to this man.. huhuhu.. You can't say that.. huhuuu..

Posted by: Marlina at October 01, 2005 10:34 AM (6H0yF)

34 I think you could have included Tim Roth, for his role in Rob Roy, mainly... I mean, he was nominated for an Oscar! And Alan Rickman, Anthony Hopkins, Jason Isaacs (Colonel Tavington, Lucius Malfoy, etc), Ralph Fiennes (who was great in Schindler´s list) are worthy of a honorary mention or something.

Posted by: Nvf at October 01, 2005 02:33 PM (4mjW4)

35 You forgot Jack Elam

Posted by: Paul Moore at October 02, 2005 06:32 AM (h9mmN)

36 No lady villains were quite convincing enough, eh? Hmmm...Does that include Lena Olin in "Romeo Is Bleeding"?

Posted by: Aitch748 at October 02, 2005 09:55 AM (D/AGH)

37 I always thought that MAD MADEM MIM was kind of funny MERLIN make her sick and she whine I HATE HORRIBLE WHOLESOME SUNSHINE

Posted by: sandpiper at October 02, 2005 07:02 PM (xt8mX)

38 Chow Yun Fat: total freakin' badass, but I don't know if he plays villains so much as anti-heroes. Vinnie Jones: (From Snatch and Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels), add another psychotic Brit, it can't hurt.

Posted by: dooley at October 02, 2005 08:01 PM (RMxvs)

39 DOWNING STREET MORON: GOTCHA, SEE YA! Time to get down.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 02, 2005 09:21 PM (ywZa8)

40 Alannnnn......

Posted by: Marlina at October 03, 2005 04:43 AM (5WlUF)

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