June 29, 2005

State Sponsor of Terror Has Terrorist as President: President Elect of Iran Involved in U.S. Embassy Hostage Takings (UPDATED)

CRITICAL UPDATE 7/01: Have we been looking at the wrong man in the photos below? New information suggests that this may be the case. See this post here.
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President Elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran today.

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President Elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran in 1979 with an American hostage.

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UPDATE: Let's just put the photoshop argument to rest. Tim of Four Right Wing Whackos drops this link in the comments to a book about the Hostage Crisis.

If you have any more photos, please send them to me or e-mail me a link.


Iran Focus:

The identity of Ahmadinejad in the photograph was revealed to Iran Focus by a source in Tehran, whose identity could not be revealed for fear of persecution.
Some are questioning the authenticity of the photos, saying that they are photoshopped. However, given the fact that they are from multiple sources and that multiple biographies of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad all claim he was a leader in the group that masterminded the hostage takings, these gainsayers' objections should be dismissed.

Who is Ahmadinejad? Iran Focus:

After finishing high school, Ahmadinejad went to Elm-o Sanaat University in 1975 to study engineering. Soon the whirlwind of Islamic revolution led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini swept him from the classroom to the mosque and he joined a generation of firebrand Islamic fundamentalists dedicated to the cause of an Islamic world revolution.

Student activists in Elm-o Sanaat University at the time of the Iranian revolution were dominated by ultra-conservative Islamic fundamentalists. Ahmadinejad soon became one of their leaders and founded the Islamic Students Association in that university after the fall of the ShahÂ’s regime.

In 1979, he became the representative of Elm-o Sanaat students in the Office for Strengthening of Unity Between Universities and Theological Seminaries, which later became known as the OSU. The OSU was set up by Ayatollah Mohammad Beheshti, who was at the time KhomeiniÂ’s top confidant and a key figure in the clerical leadership. Beheshti wanted the OSU to organise Islamist students to counter the rapidly rising influence of the opposition Mojahedin-e Khalq (MeK) among university students.

The OSU played a central role in the seizure of the United States embassy in Tehran in November 1979. Members of the OSU central council, who included Ahmadinejad as well as Ibrahim Asgharzadeh, Mohsen (Mahmoud) Mirdamadi, Mohsen Kadivar, Mohsen Aghajari, and Abbas Abdi, were regularly received by Khomeini himself.

According to other OSU officials, when the idea of storming the U.S. embassy in Tehran was raised in the OSU central committee by Mirdamadi and Abdi, Ahmadinejad suggested storming the Soviet embassy at the same time. A decade later, most OSU leaders re-grouped around Khatami but Ahmadinejad remained loyal to the ultra-conservatives.

Iran focus again:
Former OSU officials involved in the takeover of the U.S. embassy said Ahmadinejad was in charge of security during the occupation, a key role that put him in direct contact with the nascent security organizations of the clerical regime and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, which he later joined....

Defectors from the clerical regime’s security forces have revealed that Ahmadinejad led the firing squads that carried out many of the executions. He personally fired coup de grace shots at the heads of prisoners after their execution and became known as “Tir Khalas Zan” (literally, the Terminator).

Hat tip: Ron

Al Jazeera:

As a young student, Ahmadinejad joined an ultraconservative faction of the Office for Strengthening Unity, the radical student group spawned by the 1979 Islamic Revolution and staged the capture of the US Embassy.

According to reports, Ahmadinejad attended planning meetings for the US Embassy takeover and at these meetings lobbied for a simultaneous takeover of the Soviet Embassy.

Fjordman:
In 1986, Ahmadinejad became a senior officer in the Special Brigade of the Revolutionary Guards and was stationed in Ramazan Garrison near Kermanshah in western Iran. In Kermanshah, Ahmadinejad became involved in the clerical regimeÂ’s terrorist operations abroad.
And if that isn't enough, there is this from The BBC yesterday:
As soon as I saw a picture of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's new president, I knew there was something faintly familiar about him.

And it was not because he was mayor of Tehran, because, like many other Western journalists, I have been barred from visiting Iran in recent years.

Then, when I read a profile of him in the English-language Tehran Times, I realised where I must have seen him: in the former American embassy in Tehran.

Ahmadinejad was a founder of the group of young activists who swarmed over the embassy wall and held the diplomats and embassy workers hostage for 444 days.

Somewhere in the BBC archives is the interview I recorded with him and his colleagues, long after the siege was over. They all seemed rather similar - quiet, polite, but with a burning zeal.


UPDATE: The evidence just keeps pouring in. Pikamax over at Free Republic posts this link to an Editor & Publisher article (yeah, I linked them, even though they've dissed me in the past--I'm nice men):
A quarter-century after they were taken captive in Iran, five former American hostages say they got an unexpected reminder of their 444-day ordeal in the bearded face of Iran's new president-elect.

Watching coverage of Iran's presidential election on television dredged up 25-year-old memories that prompted four of the former hostages to exchange e-mails. And those four realized they shared the same conclusion -- the firm belief that President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had been one of their Iranian captors.

"This is the guy. There's no question about it," said former hostage Chuck Scott, a retired Army colonel who lives in Jonesboro, Ga. "You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoot suit and I'd still spot him."

Scott and former hostages David Roeder, William J. Daugherty and Don A. Sharer said on Wednesday they have no doubt Ahmadinejad, 49, was one of the hostage-takers. A fifth ex-hostage, Kevin Hermening, said he reached the same conclusion after looking at photos.

Not everyone agrees. Former hostage and retired Air Force Col. Thomas E. Schaefer said he doesn't recognize Ahmadinejad, by face or name, as one of his captors.

Several former students among the hostage-takers also said Ahmadinejad did not participate. And a close aide to Ahmadinejad denied the president-elect took part in the seizure of the embassy or in holding Americans hostage.

Ahmadinejad, though, denies the allegations, even though he was a top official in the organization that led hostage standoff. Other hostages don't recall seeing Ahmadinejad. But here's more:
"I can absolutely guarantee you he was not only one of the hostage-takers, he was present at my personal interrogation," Roeder said in an interview from his home in Pinehurst, N.C.

Daugherty, who worked for the CIA in Iran and now lives in Savannah, said a man he's convinced was Ahmadinejad was among a group of ringleaders escorting a Vatican representative during a visit in the early days of the hostage crisis.

"It's impossible to forget a guy like that," Daugherty said. "Clearly the way he acted, the fact he gave orders, that he was older, most certainly he was one of the ringleaders."

Oh there's more, much much more......

Another update: MSM now reporting this. I'm listenning to the radio and ABC News is reporting that hostages recognize the man in photo as Iran's President-elect.....

Apparently, the Editor and Publisher piece is really an AP news story. Here is some more of it as reported by The Guardian:

``He kind of stayed in the background most of the time,'' Scott said. ``But he was in on some of the interrogations. And he was in on my interrogation at the time they were working me over.''

Scott also recalled an incident while he was held in the Evin prison in north Tehran in the summer of 1980.

One of the guards, whom Scott called Akbar, would sometimes let Scott and Sharer out to walk the narrow, 20-foot hallway outside their cells, he said. One day, Scott said, the man he believes was Ahmadinejad saw them walking and chastised the guard.

``He was the security chief, supposedly,'' Scott said. ``When he found out Akbar had let us out of our cells at all, he chewed out Akbar. I speak Farsi. He said, `These guys are dogs they're pigs, they're animals. They don't deserve to be let out of their cells.'''

Scott recalled responding to the man's stare by openly cursing his captor in Farsi. ``He looked a little flustered like he didn't know what to do. He just walked out.''

Roeder said he's sure Ahmadinejad was present during one of his interrogations when the hostage-takers threatened to kidnap his son in the U.S. and ``start sending pieces - toes and fingers of my son - to my wife.''

``It was almost like he was checking on the interrogation techniques they were using in a sort of adviser capacity,'' Roeder said.

Hermening, of Mosinee, Wis., the youngest of the hostages, said that after he looked at photos and did research on the Internet, he came to the conclusion that Ahmadinejad was one of his questioners.

Hermening had been Marine guard at the embassy, and he recalled the man he believes was Ahmadinejad asking him for the combination to a safe.

``His English would have been fairly strong. I couldn't say that about all the guards,'' Hermening said. ``I remember that he was certainly direct, threatening, very unfriendly.''

More from Gateway Pundit and Charles Johnson who it looks like found the first pics.

Moon reminds us: "Now, how quickly do you think the Ted Kennedy's and Diane Feinstein's will start complaining about Bush's inability to deal with this guy?"

Thanks to Captain Ed for the link, and check out his spot on analysis:

With all of this already out in the open, having the mullahcracy twist the recent election to put an experienced terror operative as their head of state really doesn't amount to a big surprise. And given Hashemi Rafsanjani's track record, that result was inevitable anyway.
Ace has similar thoughts:
Eh. Not too surprising coming from Iran.
Oh, and this is classic from MJ Pechar:
It would be hard to dispute the contention that Iran is a terrorist nation when the "population" just elected a known terrorist as president. By any reasonable measure of justice, Ahmadinejad should be in prison, not the presidential palace.
Of course, that's assuming that the population really elected this guy. Remember, it's who counts the votes that matters in the end.

Others: Hal.co.net, Dr. Zin, All Things Conservative, Jimgoism, Iran News Blog, Watcher Magazine, Solomania, Polipundit, Oxrant, Emergent Chaos

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1 The denial of equal standing of woman will be the undoing of Mr.Ahamadinejad. Thx Dr. Rusty for the post. Here's some more I just dashed off over at Jihad Watch re whether the MSM will cover this breaking story: ***** Alaskan 1000, I too I'm wondering. See this piece I've been sending around: To All in the Blogos: Gateway Pundit has lead re Mr. Ahmadinejad (Newly "elected" leader in Iran) being a major player in the 1979 takeover of the US Embassy in Iran. Gateway Pundit also has AP photos as an offer of proof to this connection. See for yourself. This is an important message that the American people and the rest of the world need to here NOW! Whether the MSM with bother with this trivia remains to be seen. [...] Somehow with President Bush's speach being the news lead of the day, I don't see the MSM giving much coverage if at all. [...] Also Dr. Zin is running with an exceptional WSJ OPED analysis of schism within the ruling elite of the Iranian theocracy: Link See the post I just sent to Gary Metz [Dr.Zin www.regimechangeiran.com] ***** Gary, Read piece on analysis of election. The fracture in the ruling regime is becoming clear. Neither faction will bring what the "Joyless Generation" wants in life. Mr. Ahmadinejad is a leftover from the old regime that that the Joyless will not follow for long or support. As others have said with Mr. Ahmadinejad you get what you see. With such clarity it will become evident to the rest of the world just how out of step this ruling elite is from the modern world. Here's a piece I just posted in your thread: ***** UNIVERSAL TRUTH OF THE FREE WILL OF MEN AND WOMAN OK, some have likened President Bush to Hitler and the rise of the Third Reich. Can the same be said of Mr. Ahamadinejad? Unlike Mr. Khatami, who claimed that Islam was the same thing as democracy, Mr. Ahamadinejad has no qualms about saying that the two are incompatible. He is also open about his belief that women are not the equal of men and that non-Muslims cannot have equal rights with Muslims. Any regime, theocracy, or government that fails to recognize the universal truth of the free will of men and women is doomed to failure. The denial of equal standing of woman will be the undoing of Mr.Ahamadinejad. Link ***** [Dr. Zin] I see that you've linked to the photo from Gateway pundit showing Mr. Ahamadinejad was at the core of the 1979 takeover of the US Embassy in Iran. I believe this will strike a cord with Middle America and resonate thru the world of just what we are up against with this Iranian theocratic regime no matter who's pulling the levels. Again I can't help seeing the "Wizard of OZ" as this unravels. LGF is now linking to the 1979 photos showing Mr. Ahmadinejad involvement in the take over.

Posted by: Ron Wright at June 29, 2005 12:34 PM (wQ6JL)

2 Just think if operation Eagle Claw had been pulled off, he would be dead.

Posted by: dave at June 29, 2005 12:44 PM (fsJ2z)

3 Holy shite! WHY will this not get coverage?!

Posted by: Labosseuse at June 29, 2005 01:15 PM (Xjv2p)

4 Holy shite! WHY will this not get coverage?! Hello! Clearly in these photos Mr. Derka Derka Sherpa Bakalakadaka Mohammad Jihad is a hostage himself, too. This is a great victory. /Kos

Posted by: Editor at June 29, 2005 01:37 PM (adpJH)

5 Now that he's been positively identified, I'm sure Jimmah Cahtah will run over to kiss his ass and certify his election.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 29, 2005 02:09 PM (0yYS2)

6 hey yets get a debate going what kind of change on the ground in iraq do you think it would take to cause a coalition pull out marine bacckis in leb strike or have the american public finally become hardnd to body bags?

Posted by: graeme at June 29, 2005 02:57 PM (AHE0y)

7 What, is that BLSD without the caps posting? Hahaha...right click...check spelling...

Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 29, 2005 03:00 PM (huFN9)

8 Photoshopped? No: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1578230632/qid=1120075598/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-4130168-8837638?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Posted by: Tim at June 29, 2005 03:07 PM (wkbOs)

9 In November last year our pal Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, then Mayor of Tehran, presided over the unveiling of a statue of Simon Bolivar in Tehran. He was accompanied by, of course, Hugo Chavez: http://www.payvand.com/news/04/nov/chavez-in-tehran3.jpg Chavez is also butt-buddies with Castro: http://www.havanajournal.com/images/uploads/chavez_castro.jpg It's just a matter of time before they have a threesome.

Posted by: Oyster at June 29, 2005 03:38 PM (fl6E1)

10 From the BBC writer: "They all seemed rather similar - quiet, polite, but with a burning zeal." Makes me think of what I was taught a long time ago about dogs. If the dog is barking and tail wagging, you'll be fine. It's the quiet one's who don't bark or wag their tail that you have to the most to worry about.

Posted by: Oyster at June 29, 2005 03:50 PM (fl6E1)

11 Hey, we've all done crazy things in our youth.

Posted by: Venom at June 29, 2005 03:54 PM (dbxVM)

12 I get physically ill just thinking about this entire situation.

Posted by: Will Franklin at June 29, 2005 03:55 PM (/BN/i)

13 Venom, Yeah, this one time me and my buddies were lighting off bottle rockets...and this field across the street caught on fire...... Same thing, right?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 29, 2005 04:28 PM (JQjhA)

14 ...when the idea of storming the U.S. embassy in Tehran was raised in the OSU central committee by Mirdamadi and Abdi, Ahmadinejad suggested storming the Soviet embassy at the same time. Hah! Cooler (or smarter) heads prevailed, I'd say. But man, I would've paid to watch THAT show...

Posted by: mojo at June 29, 2005 04:45 PM (HRSdD)

15 You know, one of those embassy hostages at one time was commenting a bit over at IMAO under the name "Former Hostage". I haven't been paying attenion to the comments over there, but it would be interesting to hunt him down and find out what he thinks about this shit.

Posted by: Editor at June 29, 2005 05:34 PM (adpJH)

16 Yeah, storming the Soviet embassy would have been something to remember... for however long they lived to remember it. The sad fact is that Uncle Sam really is the good guy and everyone knows it, which is why we get picked on more. It's been sixty years since we had to nuke someone, I'd say it's time for another taste. Something low yield but enough to remove a city from the map. I say start with Riyadh. Or Paris.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 29, 2005 05:42 PM (0yYS2)

17 Wow, a revolutionary war hero is elected President. Shocked, Shocked, I am.

Posted by: Komplex at June 29, 2005 05:56 PM (Xd/Xd)

18 Still haven't gotten over the fact that the Iranians kicked you out of their country back in 1979? And people make fun of liberals dwelling on four-year-old stolen election theories...

Posted by: J'raxis 270145 at June 29, 2005 05:59 PM (h6PMY)

19 This could be cleared up super quick: Just ask George Bush Sr. -- he'd know. After all, isn't he the one who negotiated with the Iranians in Madrid so they'd delay the prisoner release until Reagan was safely elected...? ... and NUKING Paris? Wouldn't that make ours a dangerous regime that not only possesses wmd, but uses them? Besides, man, with this crowd in office, I NEED my wine...

Posted by: ReidBlog at June 29, 2005 06:29 PM (+OoOC)

20 All the legal justification we need... to put a bomb in downtown Tehran, however, in the whole, I believe that many, maybe most, Iranian people yearn for freedom and look to America.... I remember the 444 days and yellow ribbons and beginings and the fresh relief at Reagan's re-awakening of America... democrats now, as then , pomalgate malaise and defeat. What is the statute of limitations and the penalty for the invasion of UNITED STATES SOVEREIGN TERRITORY and the UNLAWFUL IMPRISONMENT of our appointed, recognized diplomats and soldiers?

Posted by: John at June 29, 2005 06:45 PM (w9xQM)

21 Interesting. Their "president" is a brave revolutionary hero who happens to be a religious fanatic. Our President just happens to be a religious fanatcic.

Posted by: Tony at June 29, 2005 07:35 PM (AKzCu)

22 I love the idiots like Reid with his conspiracy theories long since debunked and Tony who thinks a guy like Bush who is a Methodist is the same as an Iranian Mullah who wants to stone people to death for adultury.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 29, 2005 08:38 PM (JQjhA)

23 Here is a BBC photo... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/04/middle_east_iran_hostage_crisis/html/2.stm

Posted by: Ariya at June 29, 2005 08:52 PM (IXXEm)

24 Thanks Ariya. It looks like the same AP photo that we've posted, only a slightly wider angle. All, make sure you scroll through updates. Five ex-hostages now claiming to recognize Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 29, 2005 10:57 PM (JQjhA)

25 >>>"Besides, man, with this crowd in office, I NEED my wine..." You mean you're not already drunk out of your gourd???

Posted by: Carlos at June 30, 2005 12:23 AM (8e/V4)

26 >>>"Our President just happens to be a religious fanatcic." But he's OUR fanatic.

Posted by: Carlos at June 30, 2005 12:25 AM (8e/V4)

27 Carlos, all the more screwed up - Bush is not a real Christian anyway.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 30, 2005 06:58 AM (ScqM8)

28 Looks like my neighbor's ex-husband.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 30, 2005 07:07 AM (ScqM8)

29 "Venom, Yeah, this one time me and my buddies were lighting off bottle rockets...and this field across the street caught on fire...... Same thing, right?" Only if you were trying to incite a revolution by burning the fields of "the Great Satan." Seriously, bottle rockets were always pretty cool.

Posted by: Venom at June 30, 2005 09:59 AM (dbxVM)

30 I love how these idiot fascists make cute remarks and think they're being so clever. What they don't realize is that things are going to go very badly for them very soon. They will be found, and they will be dealt with. Terrorists are cowardly scum who hide behind women and children, and their liberal bitches hide behind their keyboards, but not for long. They will be found, and they will be dealt with.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 30, 2005 10:53 AM (0yYS2)

31 LMAO... so overthrowing a terrorist, installed by terrorists is an act of terrorism. More great CSI work by the neo-con blogger brigade, AKA the new STASSI. Not much doubt huh? Hey Improblem Minimus, talk is cheap.

Posted by: justpete at June 30, 2005 11:04 AM (5RQyu)

32 So the Mad Mullahs have appointed one of the US Embassy terrorists to be their puppet president? One would almost be surprised if they didn't - those guys must be heroes to the M&Ms. For us it's one more reason to take their despicable regime down.

Posted by: MartiniPundit at June 30, 2005 02:25 PM (fLdsW)

33 You need to take a look at this...... Is it the same guy? [New Iran Pres.] (New profile pic)

Posted by: OXEN at June 30, 2005 02:47 PM (w9vWW)

34 Arrest Bush 41 to prevent "another 9/11" ... Google and type in "The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects"

Posted by: David Howard at June 30, 2005 03:29 PM (WKW8O)

35 You're all looking at the wrong guy. It's the dude in the turtleneck NEXT to the circled guy.

Posted by: nuffsenuff at June 30, 2005 05:22 PM (phMjB)

36 There is a picture of him as a young man on his own (?) web-page: http://www.mardomyar.com/aspx2/aboutme.aspx The nose and eyebrows both look quite different to me. If the man circled in the photographs 1979 is indeed someone else, presumably the Iranians will soon be invited to identify that person.

Posted by: dpb at July 01, 2005 01:52 AM (+isjr)

Posted by: Oxen at July 01, 2005 06:52 AM (w9vWW)

38 Who Cares!!

Posted by: JF at July 01, 2005 08:51 AM (EOsPT)

39 The nose does appear to be a closer match to the guy on the left to me. Hmmm maybe that's why everone should post links when they are relevant.

Posted by: Howie at July 01, 2005 11:12 AM (D3+20)

40 Critical update: Yup, we may have been looking at the wrong guy......check out new post Here

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 01, 2005 11:38 AM (JQjhA)

41 There is a precedent for this. Menachem Begin was a terrorist, and became prime minister of Israel. Not too many people noticed.

Posted by: chris at July 01, 2005 04:43 PM (P6z4L)

42 http://bank.acholipeace.org/gdyx0g/ boardsooneststyle

Posted by: squirt at September 01, 2005 05:21 PM (rSJZM)

43 http://wbic-newventures.com/wwwboard/messages/22779.html beckonframedrotating

Posted by: bait at September 26, 2005 04:44 AM (uTZK+)

44 http://parkplacehardware.com/wwwboard/messages/1540.html complimentwhosewondered

Posted by: plunge at September 30, 2005 10:08 PM (uos5A)

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