August 30, 2005

Reuters Crew Shot in Baghdad (UPDATED

Here is an update on this incident from a reader:

The cameraman in question was shot by soldiers in my son's unit. First hand reports are that the moron sped into the middle of a firefight, jumped out of his car and threw up to his shoulder a TV or Movie camera with a sound boom and telephoto lens.

It was [understandably considering the circumstances] mistaken for an RPG and the moron quickly became the late moron.

Incidentally, this crew was told beforehand NOT to go into the area of the firefight, as it was entirely too dangerous.

After a post-battle debriefing and investigation, the soldiers were determined to have adhered properly to the rules of engagement, and were found innocent of any wrongdoing.

Actually, the first hand report was: "Some dumb b**tard came up to us in a speeding car, jumped out and pointed his camera at us. We thought it was an RPG and lit him up."

Perhaps Reporters Without Borders should be complaining about Reuters not training their crews to have some common sense instead of seething against the U.S. --------------------
Al Reuters is reporting that one of their soundmen was killed and a camera man shot. Initial reports indicate that it was U.S. soldiers that shot at the crew.

This should really surprise nobody. The latest strategy from al Qaeda linked terrorists in Iraq is to film attacks. I have seen dozens and dozens of these films. Whenever an IED explodes, there is usually a terrorist camera man taping the incident. So, if I am a U.S. soldier in a hot zone it actually seems like a pretty good strategy to shoot at anybody with a camera. The story given by the U.S. is consistent with this:

Task Force Baghdad units responded to a terrorist attack on an Iraqi Police convoy around 11:20 a.m. Aug. 28 in central Baghdad, which killed and wounded several Iraqi police. One civilian was killed and another was wounded by small-arms fire during the attack.

"After discovering an abandoned car with explosives material, weapons and a cellphone, units began searching the area for the terror suspects who were believed to have fled on foot."

And

A U.S. officer said: "They drove into fighting."
Of course, al Reuters spin is that this was an act of aggression on the part of the U.S. and does little to explain the context in which the news crew was shot at. Reuters:
A Reuters Television soundman was shot dead in Baghdad on Sunday and a cameraman who was wounded was still being questioned by U.S. troops 12 hours later.

Iraqi police said the two, both Iraqis, were shot by U.S. forces. A U.S. military spokesman said the incident was being investigated. The cameraman was being held and questioned because of "inconsistencies in his initial testimony," he added.

Waleed Khaled, 35, was hit by a shot to the face and at least four to the chest as he drove to check a report, called in to the Reuters bureau by a police source, of an incident involving police and gunmen in the western Hay al-Adil district.

"A team from Reuters news agency was on assignment to cover the killing of two policemen in Hay al-Adil; U.S. forces opened fire on the team from Reuters and killed Waleed Khaled, who was shot in the head, and wounded Haider Kadhem," an Interior Ministry official quoted the police incident report as saying.

Cameraman Kadhem, 24, who was wounded in the back, told colleagues at the scene: "I heard shooting, looked up and saw an American sniper on the roof of the shopping center."

The only known witness, he was later detained by the U.S. troops. For 10 hours, U.S. officers said they could not trace Kadhem. Finally a spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Whetstone, said he was being held at an unspecified location. His "superficial" wound had been treated "on location," he said.

He declined to specify any suspicions or accusations against the cameraman, who was based in the southern city of Samawa and had been in Baghdad only two days on a brief assignment. He was despatched to the scene of the incident by senior Reuters staff.

The driver was a Baghdad local and knew the area well.

Two Iraqi colleagues who arrived on the scene minutes after the shooting were briefly detained and released: "They treated us like dogs. They made us ... including Haider who was wounded and asking for water, sit in the sun on the road," one said.

Human rights violations! U.S. worse than Saddam!! Wounded man forced to sit in the sun!!!

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1 Media as terrorists/terrorists as media; either way, propaganda is propaganda, and the enemy is the enemy. I think a few more dead reporters only makes the world a better place.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 29, 2005 11:06 AM (0yYS2)

2 I suppose you have to be sort of brain damaged to not realize that the US fully supports freedom of the press while those fighting against us, do not. Why then, would organizations such as this be doing so much to harm our war efforts? My guess - Anti-American press sells. Simple as that.

Posted by: Defense Guy at August 29, 2005 11:08 AM (jPCiN)

3 al-Rooters terrorist embeds shot? WOW I am shocked.

Posted by: bill at August 29, 2005 11:27 AM (7evkT)

4 Silly "pen-is-mightier-than-the-sword" cameraman, a shoulder mounted camera looks an awfull lot like a weapon.

Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at August 29, 2005 11:41 AM (lKqPU)

5 Apparently this guy was unclear on the meaning of the phrase "In harm's way".

Posted by: Brian B at August 29, 2005 11:43 AM (CouWh)

6 what did they want???...a loune chair to sit in the sun so they could work on a tan???....gimme a break...treated like a dog???..i dont know them Muslims well, but i treat my dog very well, feed him twice a day and he gets plenty of exercise out in the sun all day long....poor poor wittle bitty Muslims gotta go oh boohoo!!! woe is us!!!...makes me sick to listen to grown men whine like my 4 year old daughter

Posted by: THANOS35 at August 30, 2005 01:13 AM (hcN1S)

7 The cameraman in question was shot by soldiers in my son's unit. First hand reports are that the moron sped into the middle of a firefight, jumped out of his car and threw up to his shoulder a TV or Movie camera with a sound boom and telephoto lens. It was [understandably considering the circumstances] mistaken for an RPG and the moron quickly became the late moron. Incidentally, this crew was told beforehand NOT to go into the area of the firefight, as it was entirely too dangerous. After a post-battle debriefing and investigation, the soldiers were determined to have adhered properly to the rules of engagement, and were found innocent of any wrongdoing. Actually, the first hand report was: "Some dumb b**tard came up to us in a speeding car, jumped out and pointed his camera at us. We thought it was an RPG and lit him up."

Posted by: Charlie at August 30, 2005 03:22 PM (p5UVE)

8 hmmm, sounds like the gene pool got a little deeper! . . .

Posted by: large at August 30, 2005 05:47 PM (Ny1Tj)

9 Journalism at it's finest, recklessly risked their lives to get the front page story. Too bad they went out looking for a story and ended up being ‘the story’. We really need more bold reporters like these, war sells like hell.

Posted by: Ren at August 30, 2005 06:51 PM (7ZsmI)

10 See. They'd be a whole lot safer if they were covering stories on the new school built or the new hospital equipment and neighborhoods getting back to normal with electricity and proper running sewers. But no! Gotta run into the middle of a gun fight, git his ass blown up and then let al-Rueters portray the US as the bad guys AGAIN. Funny how Austin Bay and guys like him get around fine and have tons of things to report on in the progress being made.

Posted by: Oyster at August 30, 2005 08:43 PM (YudAC)

11 Carrying water for the splodeydopes is getting to be a dangerous business. I wonder, can we send Woodward and Bernstein to cover Iraq?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 30, 2005 09:06 PM (0yYS2)

12 all forms of media = propaganda = manipulative missinformation that should be forever removed from the face of the earth According to this brilliant sentence proven by misuse of logic calculations (with which I undeniably mathematically disproved all gods a while ago, except of course the possibility that there's a preprogrammed, leftover of communal evolution alter-ego called god controlling people to make them work better as a group), all forms of media should be removed, and people should live in ignorance.

Posted by: A Finn at August 31, 2005 04:10 AM (cWMi4)

13 Thomas Jefferson said that if you read nothing but newspapers, you'd be better off reading nothing at all. It's scary how right he was.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 31, 2005 04:53 PM (0yYS2)

14 "I suppose you have to be sort of brain damaged to not realize that the US fully supports freedom of the press while those fighting against us, do not. Why then, would organizations such as this be doing so much to harm our war efforts?" Not really brain damaged, no. The thought that a dickhead such as yourself has any idea what freedom of the press actually means is genuinely beyond comprehension. One of the Reuters cameramen killed in Iraq was a dear friend of mine. I sincerely hope a friend of yours is killed by a trigger-happy poorly-trained pig-ignorant "soldier" who decided a hotel was a legitimate target for his tank, then maybe you'll begin to appreciate why comments like "hmmm, sounds like the gene pool got a little deeper" just make people hate americans all the more.

Posted by: Dave at September 07, 2005 08:19 AM (r0dNS)

15 Hey Dave, Maybe your dear friend should have realized that when you drive to an attack that you take your life at risk....particularily when you've been advised of an attack on Coalition Forces. By the way the soldiers were not pig ignorant by any means. They responded within the rules of engagement and if Reuters will never learn that the conic shaped microphones on their cameras look like RPG warheads, then I guess that they should be prepared to keep open vacancies because apparently they did not learn after Mazen Dana.

Posted by: Dickhead US Soldier at September 23, 2005 10:12 PM (6krEN)

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