March 26, 2005

Iraq IS Vietnam (but not like you think)

Growing up I remember seeing the footage of the last few helicopter flights out of the U.S. embassy in Hanoi. For some reason, the footage was run over and over. As if a hasty retreat wasn't humiliating enough for the nation, the liberal media had to remind us of our shame.

Ever since we began our efforts in Iraq those on the left have been using Vietnam as an analagous war. Trying to shame us in the same way they shamed us then. It turns out they are right to compare Iraq to Vietnam. Only this time, it's our enemies who are beating a hasty retreat and seeking peace with honor.

Thanks to Mark for sending me this FT piece:

Many of Iraq's predominantly Sunni Arab insurgents would lay down their arms and join the political process in exchange for guarantees of their safety and that of their co-religionists, according to a prominent Sunni politician.


Sharif Ali Bin al-Hussein, who heads Iraq's main monarchist movement and is in contact with guerrilla leaders, said many insurgents including former officials of the ruling Ba'ath party, army officers, and Islamists have been searching for a way to end their campaign against US troops and Iraqi government forces since the January 30 election.

“Firstly, they want to ensure their own security,” says Sharif Ali, who last week hosted a pan-Sunni conference attended by tribal sheikhs and other local leaders speaking on behalf of the insurgents.

Insurgent leaders fear coming out into the open to talk for fear of being targeted by US military or Iraqi security forces' raids, he said.

Sharif Ali distinguishes many Sunni insurgents, whom he says took up arms in reaction to the invasive raids in search of Ba'athist leaders and other “humiliations” soon after the 2003 war, from the radical jihadist branch associated with Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Unlike Mr Zarqawi's followers, who are thought to be responsible for the big suicide bomb attacks on Iraqi civilian targets, the other Sunni insurgents are more likely to plant bombs and carry out ambushes against security forces and US troops active near their homes.

Sharif Ali said the success of Iraq's elections dealt the insurgents a demoralising blow, prompting them to consider the need to enter the political process.

Let me just add that I've seen hundreds of videos produced by various insurgent groups for propaganda value. The most recent trend in these videos seem to be roadside bombs detonated at some distance. In fact, after the bomb goes off these people rarely continue taping. They split real fast like.

These people are not nearly as daring as they would have you believe.

Posted by: Rusty at 03:51 PM | Comments (9) | Add Comment
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1 Would like to add one line to that, if you do not mind, Dr. S. These people are not as daring as the demaloons would like us to believe, either.

Posted by: William Teach at March 26, 2005 04:28 PM (HxpPK)

2 Seeking peace with one's adversary takes bravery and I am happy they are trying out the higher path. Will we reciprocate?

Posted by: Collin Baber at March 26, 2005 07:00 PM (fufbw)

3 Not nearly as powerful as the MSM has been telling us for 26 months. But then the War on Terror is a Quagmire ask Gen Clarke.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at March 26, 2005 07:14 PM (e4/pv)

4 The objective of such overtures is to negotiate with words and not weapons. It took many years for the Vietnamese to convince American forces to leave their country, which I assume is one of the goals of the Iraqi nationalists.

Posted by: Collin Baber at March 26, 2005 08:31 PM (fufbw)

5 Ok, let me see if I understand this, , , These "freedom fighting minutemen" who've been doing bombs and beheadings since we first came over (this time) now want to say 'Oops, we were wrong, lets have a *do over*' and walk away without any repercusions? You know, for 'the children.' And the rest of civilization is going to let that happen? *really incredulous expression*

Posted by: KurtP at March 26, 2005 09:09 PM (YMb+y)

6 Rusty, a minor and, in the long run, an inconsequential point: I think you meant our embassy in Saigon, not Hanoi. As far as I recall we never had an embassy in Hanoi, at least not in the 60's or 70's.

Posted by: DCE at March 26, 2005 09:36 PM (BhblC)

7 The helicopters flew out of Saigon, not Hanoi. We never had an embassy in Hanoi until 1994 or so.

Posted by: John Sinton at March 27, 2005 02:27 PM (gpb0t)

8 Actually, Iraq is looking more and more like Chechnya versus Vietnam.

Posted by: Venom at March 28, 2005 09:42 AM (dbxVM)

9 All right, All right. We all know what he meant. He made a mistake. I made one myself. But, I can't remember when or what it was about.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 30, 2005 10:54 PM (CBNGy)

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