August 04, 2005
New Zawahiri Tape Warns of New Attacks
Ayman al-Zawahiri has released a brand new video tape warning England of more attacks "because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions."
The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."
In all fairness, Zawahiri and Al Qaida threatened England before Blair was in power, but why let the facts get in the way of a rambling psychopath.
The Associated Press offers a bit more from the video tape.
Referring to the Western nations contributing troops to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, he said: "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.
"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammed?" al-Zawahri added.
Al Qaida, under Osama Bin Laden, did offer European nations a truce and later rescinded the offering two months after the time period was up. The problem is that one of the main goals of Al Qaida is to topple Europe and turn it into a Sharia Law waste dump. It is part of the Caliphate state they wish to accomplish, therefore it is just more of the incoherrent ramblings of Zawahiri.
Where is this Bin Laden promised tape? According to various jihadi message boards, they were all excited Bin Laden was to release a video tape in May, then June and finally July. Furthermore, why has Zawahiri released two video tapes in two months yet no word from Bin Laden in almost a year?
The Associated Press also has new information of what was in the tape it is directed at the United States.
"As for you, the Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, what losses that you see in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the media blackout, is merely the losses of the initial clashes," he said, referring to the Sept. 11 attacks blamed on al-Qaida.
"If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, with God's will, what will make you forget the horrible things in Vietnam and Afghanistan."
He then addressed Americans, saying, "The truth that has been kept from you by (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld is that there is no way out of Iraq without immediate withdrawal, and any delay on this means only more dead, more losses.
"If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded."
The "media blackout" refers to a propoganda tool used by Al Qaida and radical Islamic fighters in the Afghan-Soviet War to say there are thousands more casualties and actually reported. We see this on just about every communique that comes out of Iraq and Zawahiri has adapted this for his own use.
As best I recall, the United States did not invade Afghanistan or Iraq until after Muslim agression, but my memory is a bit hazy. Perhaps someone could clear that up for me. The figure of "tens of thousands" dead soldiers is quite lofty considering the number just went over 1,800 this week. While I am sad for the loss of even one soldier, there is always a distinction between what Al Qaida says and what is the truth. Yet they run around and call everyone else liars. Heh.
Cross-posted at ITB
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Yah, it's clearly Blair's fault. He's obviously the one running around planting bombs and denotating them. "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."
Sorry, but YOU, Zawahiri, are the one bringing destruction in central london.
These people's brains are totally screwed.
Posted by: tyler at August 04, 2005 09:10 AM (Y9Lwb)
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Old bugger looks like crap. Me thinks life on the run does not agree with him.
Dear Lord: Please guide one of our beloved Special Forces members to this foul pimp and allow him to remove the old goat's head.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 04, 2005 09:16 AM (5ceWd)
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 04, 2005 10:09 AM (DDXXI)
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The capture or killing of Zawahiri would make more impact on the war against terror than capturing or killing Bin Laden, this guy should be the driving force rather than Bin Laden.
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:23 AM (DO6vD)
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Dave, excellent point. Zawahiri is the driving force behind Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden, but Bin Laden is the face behind the group for most jihadis. I personally would rather see Zawahiri captured or killed than Bin Laden.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 10:27 AM (Yxk8B)
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Why do I think "Iran" when I see that photo of Zawahiri?
He's obviously in front of a tent. His dress seems different.
Posted by: Allan Guyton at August 04, 2005 10:40 AM (NYNGR)
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Well, Britain can breathe a little easier - the attacks they promise in videotapes, audiotapes and on web sites never seem to materialize.
Posted by: Eric J at August 04, 2005 10:47 AM (hrQvk)
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http://www.homeland securityus.com/zawahiri.asp
I'm not sure if anyone has seen this but coupled with this post @ tomoreport which explains it better:
http://thetomoreport.blogspot.com/2005/06/latest-zawahiri-video-signals.html
suggests the placement of Zawahiri's AK-47 rifle, is used to put forth attacks, close to his body for preparation, away for execution of plot.
take it at face value, but I found it interesting. Another thing that I found interesting in their videos, is that they could contain hidden messages (for example the Yemeni dagger in Bin Ladens cloak during one of his video, did that trigger the attack on Cole?) but why does Bin Laden appear to be wearing a Timex "IronMan" watch in a few of his videos?
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:53 AM (DO6vD)
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Dave:
Good point. It would appear the Rifle is on his right side if you were sitting next to him. Let's not forget they believe they must warn first. But have we not already been warned. I'm not sure if this is a warning or a starters pistol. The Rifle seems to be sort of far back in the background. I wonder if the sunlight is the hidden message.
Posted by: Howie at August 04, 2005 11:08 AM (D3+20)
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One would think bin Laden would have a MUCH more expensive watch than a Timex.
But they do take a licking...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:26 AM (x+5JB)
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"Zawahiri is the driving force behind Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden"
They've been up in those caves soo long that I'm sure he driving some sort of force behind OBL. hee hee...
Posted by: JustPlainJoe at August 04, 2005 11:48 AM (Xj6+u)
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JustPLainJoe,
Oh, now I have that sick visual in my head! *gag*
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 04, 2005 01:16 PM (SZ940)
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This infuriates me. Can you folks imagine what would happen if the U.S. did withdraw due to threats like this?
BUT--we are being slowly bled over there by the leech of terrorism, and we need to change tactics somehow. Fouteen dead marines in two days. Any ideas, anyone, that don't involve nuclear weapons?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 01:22 PM (x+5JB)
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Undoubtedly, Zawahiri is the head of the beast. Bin Laden is simply his puppet. I've thought so since September 12th, 2001. The guy is evil incarnate.
And all the mainstream media idiots can talk about is how his clothes are so clean and pressed. Their idiocy is absolutely astounding.
What I want to know is why they're concentrating so hard on the UK. I thought America was the Great Satan.
Posted by: Oyster at August 04, 2005 02:05 PM (fl6E1)
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Oyster: Yes, but England is his little red helper.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 02:23 PM (x+5JB)
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reminds me of what Kruchev had bragged about..."We will bury you!!!"....where is the Soviet Union now???...Al Quada and Islamic militants are going the same way....into the dust bin of history and fallen dictatorships
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 04, 2005 02:37 PM (9gFP6)
Posted by: Insider at August 04, 2005 02:59 PM (m9bOd)
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We should send Scott Baio into Dirkdirkistan to finish these bastards off once and for all. Sherpa sherpa Mohammad Jihad, Bakkalaa
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 04, 2005 03:48 PM (5ceWd)
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The leftists are the enablers of the terrorists. What can you or I do about it? Just asking.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 04, 2005 04:12 PM (DDXXI)
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Well, when Zawahiri said If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded. then he must have meant that we'll leave in around 20 or 30 years. Extrapolating from the current death rate, anyways. (Although the wounded/disabled figure will be much higher than merely double.)
Posted by: Mark Flacy at August 04, 2005 06:18 PM (8aYgm)
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"If you listen to the words of the terrorists you see that all they do is take what is said by liberals in the West and then repeat it back in a scary voice."
I agree. The danger is from such people who show their weakness by making allowances for creeps like this old fart of Islam. I hope Osama is suffering in ill health... this could be why this creature has decided to take on al-Qaedas PR role. Death to them all...preferably long and slowly. Long live Western culture!
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 07:07 PM (QKZX5)
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Why even put that old shit garbage on the news? It's nothing but retoric he learned to the America new media anyway. Same words, same old shit. Low life muslims, come out and fight like real men. You're nothing but a bunch of sissies.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 08:07 AM (9Dlss)
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Typing in the dark sucks.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 08:09 AM (9Dlss)
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool at Siloam to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
Posted by: G.I.- Joe at August 16, 2005 06:35 PM (S0Kv/)
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
Posted by: G.I.- Joe at August 16, 2005 06:37 PM (S0Kv/)
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
Posted by: G.I. Joe at August 16, 2005 06:38 PM (S0Kv/)
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Above posts were posted three times in memory of the attacks of the innocent on 9-11...the souls of the innocent cry out for justice.
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Truth in Advertising
I don't know about you, but when I read the news, I tend to skim the headlines first and then stop and read anything that has caught my interest. I suspect most of you are probably about the same. Yet I have found that sometimes, the headlines don't accurately reflect what's really going on. Take this morning, for example.
From CNN:
Brain-dead woman dies after childbirth
Fox News:
Brain-Dead Va. Woman Dies After Giving Birth
CBS News:
Brain-Dead Woman Gives Birth, Dies
I've heard of this story, but haven't really followed it much. From skimming the headlines, it sounds like the mother held on just long enough to have the baby and then gave up. Sad in a way, but maybe better off in the long run. Then I get to the Washington Post.
Brain-Dead Mother Is Taken Off Life Support
Now I don't know about you, but to me, that conveys a COMPLETLY different story. I'm not trying to start another debate over the rights and/or wrongs of removing someone from life support. That is an arduous debate that certainly will not be solved on a blog. But what I do want to point out is what I want from my news, which is the truth. Plain, simple, unvarnished truth. After all, if euthanasia is such a good thing, why aren't you coming out and saying that that's what this was? I don't think I'm asking too much of a news outlet to simply show enough respect for me, its readers and even the woman who died to just tell the truth of the matter instead of leading us to think something completely different.
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Howie:
As I stated, there's a difference between this and the Florida case. This wooman was on a support sysytem for breathing, etc., and was not merely being fed food and water. The Church says it is imperative to supply the latter to a person, not the former.
But I get your point. The subtle omission or placement of one tiny word can bring on a whole new meaning.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 07:37 AM (x+5JB)
Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2005 08:08 AM (XiVKO)
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V the K: So many possibilities on this one!
Wonder which "Bill" they mean???
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 08:13 AM (x+5JB)
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Heh. Yeah, we've been discussing that one
here. According to one of my readers, the national sex offender database that Shrillary refers to doesn't contain any entries for New York.
Posted by: Drew at August 04, 2005 08:15 AM (Ml8z/)
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Uh YBP this is drews post.
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Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 09:01 AM (x+5JB)
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Maybe you should try reading the story? The woman had cerebral cancer that effectively ended her life a couple months ago. Because she was carrying a child the husband wanted to give the unborn baby a chance (rather than let the fetus die with her) they kept her body on life support to bring the baby to a deliverable point.
Am I wrong or is commenting without knowledge and appropriate consideration just the kind of knee-jerk behavior that is typical of liberals? Do your homework please! Every good conservative should...
Posted by: Rob at August 04, 2005 11:18 AM (TNu1w)
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Maybe you should try reading the story.
I'm not trying to start another debate over the rights and/or wrongs of removing someone from life support.
Hmmm.
Posted by: Drew at August 04, 2005 11:20 AM (Ml8z/)
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I understood Drew's point was to point out the discrepancies between the different headlines--nothing more.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:54 AM (x+5JB)
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As others have commented this is NOT a re-tread of the Terry Schiavo case, and is most certainly not a case of Euthanasia. It is in fact a story of heroic sacrifice on the part of both Susan Torres, her husband Jason, and a great many charitable souls surounding them. Susan's life support needs were the textbook definition of "Extraordinary measures", the respirator was just the beginning. It was costing Jason ten thousand dollars A DAY to keep her alive for three months to save their baby, ABOVE AND BEYOND what insurance was covering. Friends and strangers pitched in with love, comfort and generous financial support to save Jason and Susan's baby. It is a tragic, but beautiful answer to the Schiavo case where this time love of life has defied the culture of death. Requiesciat in pace Susan Torres.
Posted by: JAU at August 04, 2005 12:02 PM (O/K0I)
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I feel the papers did nothing wrong. It is perfectly okay to
try and lure people into a story with the headline. As long as
they told the truth about what happen in the story, then no foul.
It is much like the spam and other bogus contest, "Enter and you
can $50 gizallion dollars." And then when you read the fine print
you know you have to be able to do 10 backflips, while holding
a 15 pound bowling ball, and sing the newest country and rap
hits in both English and Jamican.
Posted by: Butch at August 04, 2005 01:51 PM (Gqhi9)
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I think the term "brain dead woman" is tasteless. But then again, it is the media, so what do you expect?
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 04, 2005 02:33 PM (SZ940)
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You want the truth from a "news" outlet? What planet do you live on?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 04, 2005 04:13 PM (Z6yVb)
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Our Priest once said that if the average American watched a partial birth abortion on TV between sit coms, the county would finally come around to the truth of what has been happening.
Imagine a TV 60-second spot where a child is borne alive and itÂ’s skull is cracked open and the brain is sucked out while the child screams.
Much better for butch and the libs to call this....”Choice”
The MSM will call killing freedom, and call the attempt to save life...hate. I have zero expectations from them.
Posted by: Brad at August 04, 2005 11:41 PM (pO1tP)
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Hey Drew,
This rejoinder will be my last and is in my mind one too many, but remember, you called me out. The headlines "brain dead woman gives birth" were completely true. So was the headline "brain dead woman taken off life support". No discrepancy is apparent here. Both statements are true. The news reported the facts in the headlines. No insult to your intelligence was intended.
Sometimes the devil is not only in the details we overlook, but also the details we assume to be in place because of a pre-conceived notion of what happened. Its an intelligent man who can admit he has done that and move on.
Cheers!
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 08:12 AM (TNu1w)
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Your insinuation that I did not read the articles was untrue, and your reaction showed that not only were you falsly accusing and calling me a "knee-jerk reactionist", but you were also engaged in the "non-reading, knee-jerk reaction" of which you accused me.
To think that newspapers have no bias whatsoever, you must live in a complete and total dreamland. They always have and always will. Yes, both of the headlines represented the truth of what happened. Only one represented the ENTIRE truth of what happened. The other three made it seem as though she had simply passed away while giving birth. They don't want to mention the fact that her husband took her off life support. I don't know their reasons or motivations behind this. I do know that it is misleading to someone like me who hadn't been following the story closely.
AND THAT IS THE POINT OF THE ENTIRE POST. I felt that the first three headlines were misleading through omission and did not do justice to the story. I had no preconcieved notion of what happened because I DID NOT KNOW. And, in skimming the headlines of the paper, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN.
Now, the next time you want to come around insulting my intellingence and insunating that I am a "knee-jerk liberal", then maybe you should have some vague idea of what the hell I am talking about first. I'll debate you on anything, but there's really nothing here that's debatable. And always remember "It's beeter to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and prove everyone right."
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 08:22 AM (Ml8z/)
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You go Drew. Drew is about as liberal as I am sane. don't let em get to you say whatever the hell you like.
Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 08:29 AM (D3+20)
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Okay, now I'm laughing at you. Because if you were careful to read my post, I did clearly make reference to you as a "good conservative". I did NOT call you a knee-jerk liberal; rather I was making a point that because we often despise liberals for the fact that they are characterized by being "trigger happy" with their mouths we should be very careful not engage in that behavior. Sorry if this subtlety caught you unawares. I will be more blunt in the future. Without further ado:
Why did you assume the brain dead mother was not on life support? Generally people who are brain dead, with the exception of extremely rare cases (not mentioning any names or cases!!!) ARE on life support because the brain keeps the heart pumping and the lungs inflating. I would guess the more intelligent half of the population do get this concept. Which half are you? In other words do you get it or not?
Second, why did you assume that if because she could give birth, she was "hanging on" (as you put it) to do that? Brain dead implies no awareness, no willpower, no participation, no anything. The fact that a brain dead woman gave birth implies outside direction and oversight, ie doctors and family making decisions.
Lastly, why did you assume that I was trying to bring up a debate over the rights/wrongs of life support? I was just trying to point out that the headlines were pretty responsible (as headlines go) to the story. IF you think that reading the headlines will be enough to tell you the salient details, well bro, I guess newspapers waste a lot of words if you are correct in that thinking. Kind of like I am doing right now. But this is fun, because you have a bit of a bee in your bonnet and I predict that now you are going to scan this email for more ways to battle me and in the end you are doing just what I reprimanded you for in the first place. You are reading the details. Alas, now we have to work on that open mind...!
Hey, have a great day. I mean that, really. You've more than made mine.
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 08:51 AM (TNu1w)
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Well, I'm so glad that I could entertain you. After all, that is my goal in life.
Q: Why did you assume the brain dead mother was not on life support?
A: I didn't. I assumed, from the first headlines that I read, that she simply died immediately after childbirth.
Q: Second, why did you assume that if because she could give birth, she was "hanging on" (as you put it) to do that?
A: Because originally, all I had of this story was the "headline news" version of it. Very little information. I didn't find out that she was brain dead until after she had died. Everything before that has simply referred to her as "comatose," which is certainly not the same thing as brain death.
Q: Lastly, why did you assume that I was trying to bring up a debate over the rights/wrongs of life support?
A:
"Maybe you should try reading the story? The woman had cerebral cancer that effectively ended her life a couple months ago. Because she was carrying a child the husband wanted to give the unborn baby a chance (rather than let the fetus die with her) they kept her body on life support to bring the baby to a deliverable point." Sounds to me like you were trying to justify why she was taken off life support, which was not the point I was trying to make.
"IF you think that reading the headlines will be enough to tell you the salient details, well bro, I guess newspapers waste a lot of words if you are correct in that thinking."
Why does CNN have a station called "Headline News?" Little hint, because we don't always have time to read the whole story. I've had an extraordinarily busy coulple of weeks and wasn't up on this story. That's pretty much the whole point to the post. I wasn't up on the story and got a completly misleading idea about the conclusion of the story from the headlines.
"Am I wrong or is commenting without knowledge and appropriate consideration just the kind of knee-jerk behavior that is typical of liberals? Do your homework please! Every good conservative should..."
If I took the above statement in a way that it was not intended, then I apologize. It sounded more to me like you were insinuating that I am not a "good conservative."
Let me make my point another way. Did you ever see the movie "Executive Decision" with Kurt Russell and Steven Segall? When it came out, it was hyped as a Steven Segall action thriller. Most of the previews had Segall in them. Then, we get to the movies and BAM! Five minutes into the movie, Segall was killed and the entire rest of the movie was about something else entirely!
That's what I feel like when I read the headlines above. I've been handed one thing, then when I actually get in and find out what the story is about, it turns out to be something totally different. Or in this case, not totally different, but certainly different enough to be significant.
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 09:12 AM (Ml8z/)
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Okay Drew, I hear your pain on "incomplete stories" and I agree. To that I would only say that a much wiser man than I once said "Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see."
And if I can make one final recommendation, be careful about debating anyone anywhere. General Custer thought he could do that too.
Peace. Out.
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 09:18 AM (TNu1w)
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Hey, I said debate, I didn't say win!
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 09:26 AM (Ml8z/)
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Drew: I think you won this one. The headlines were all (selectively) truthful but they did not do justice to the actual circumstances.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 05, 2005 06:56 PM (3+9IT)
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Gees Brad: Is that what really happens? Makes me sick. Sick enough to kick the so called doctors ass. My wonderful grandson was born two months early. Crack the babies skull open and suck the brain out. Don't ever let me catch one of these murder for money bastards sitting across a bar stool from me. I'll crack his brains open with a bottle of scotch and proudly do the time.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 10:14 PM (CBNGy)
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Yep, greyrooster, that's really what happens. And the alternatives aren't much better. One type of abortion involves flooding the womb with saline solution, wich effectively burns the baby to death which is then ejected. Another involves pulling pieces off the baby while it's still in the womb and then reassembling the pieces on a table to ensure that they "got" everything.
Posted by: Drew at August 08, 2005 06:42 AM (Ml8z/)
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That procedure is just murder in my book.
I’ve said this before,..I just cannot imagine what kind of sub human could pull a 9-5 shift day after day, month after month in a “clinic” like that.
I wouldn’t blow up the bastards like that nut case Rudolph. However, after finishing off a bottle of single malt scotch, if DR. shithead was sitting next to me at the bar, I might just partial birth that son of a bitch with the empty. Especially if that POS Butch was next to him talking that “ain’t nothin but tissue” shit.
Posted by: Brad at August 08, 2005 08:52 AM (6mUkl)
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BAGHDAD,
Iraq (AP) - Fourteen U.S. Marines were killed Wednesday when a huge
bomb destroyed their lightly armored vehicle, hurling it into the air
in a giant fireball in the deadliest roadside bombing suffered by
American forces in the Iraq war.
Look, Abu, this may come as a surprise to you, but while you were doing high fives, passing the hooka around and eyeing the goat in a lewd and lascivious manner, the U.S. Marines were laughing at you.
Yeah, you read that right. They were laughing at you.
You see, Abu Musab al-Suqwad, blowing up 14 Marines doesn't do shit to the war effort. Not by a long shot. Ask the Japanese. Ask the Viet Cong, the North Koreans, hell, ask the Libyans. Where did you think the "shores of Tripoli" came from?
You see, we do the mourning for the dead, Abu. Not them. Oh, they'll mourn, they're not heartless, in the long run. They'll look back one day, remember, maybe even write a book about the horror they encountered.
No, not the horror that you attempted. Our Marines will feel far more sadness about what they are going to do to you for your cowardly remote-controlled IED.
Go ahead, Abu, piss off the United States Marines.
You'll still lose.
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i think you meant to say lascivious.
Posted by: mustafa ali khan at August 04, 2005 01:15 AM (jWaQK)
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. . . and another thing, dear sir, the "terror tactics" of guerilla war used by the Viet Cong did wonders to advance their cause (in part because the US troops responded with such sickening and sweeping brutality that homeside support fell to sh*t). There's not as much media freedom for this particular struggle, so much of the brutality we perpetrate shall not be seen by the sensitive public. . . and as any good war historian will tell you, guerilla warfare is used because it works. The French learned that in Vietnam; the Japanese in China; the Soviets in Afghanistan; the Britons vs. the American colonies.
Posted by: mustafa ali khan at August 04, 2005 01:28 AM (jWaQK)
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Guerilla warfare can only work if supported by the general public. You and I both know that. We also both know these punks don't have the public support they did in Vietnam.
They obviously have your support though.
With that said, could I interest you in a suicide vest? I'll throw in a sheet of plastic for the splatter factor at no additional charge.
Posted by: elliott at August 04, 2005 07:14 AM (XlQVK)
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Guerilla tactics work to create instability, but they do not work to push out soldiers. The Afghan-Soveit War was hardly just a war of guerilla tactics. Any military historican could tell you that much.
And you know, it may shock you Mustafa, but those acts that you've heard about in Vietnam were sometimes even made up. There is plenty of media freedom, it just so happens the opposing side would rather kill innocent children then face U.S. soldiers so media outlets have a hard time justifying sending a reporter to cover their angle of events. In fact, a few have tried they end up without a head.
If Al Qaida wished to work the media, which they are trying, they would have had guerilla tactics and not terrorist tactics. There is a difference and the difference is as clear as night and day. Most people could recognize such differences, but for some reason they evade a few.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 08:23 AM (Yxk8B)
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What Mustafa does not understand is the nature of brutality in war and the nature of American troops. Unlike the Japanese, the Vietnamese, and even the colonial French, Americans do not relish brutality. We tend to avoid it because we are so overwhelmingly strong that we always look like the bad guys if we use it. But if circumstances require brutality to win, then we will be brutal. And Mustafa, you do NOT EVER want to be on the receiving end of American brutality if it is needed to win. You have no idea how horrific it can be. Ask Japan.
Posted by: Scott in CA at August 04, 2005 10:29 AM (iAkUg)
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Amen Scott! The US military is the epitome of restraint. However, when the gloves come off, the enemy is going to get one hell of an ass-whooping.
See:
www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/special/hiway.html
www.thefourreasons.org/junearchives.htm
home.alltel.net/roedder/abdali/abdali.html
And if any sandflea has a problem with me enjoying the pictures, they can bite me. If it was up to me, we would be shipping millions of pigs to Iraq for use in feeding prisoners and for burials.
Posted by: Fersboo at August 04, 2005 11:09 AM (x0fj6)
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thank you gentlemen for the enlightening discussion.

peace.
Posted by: mustafa AK at August 04, 2005 04:28 PM (jWaQK)
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looks like the motherfucking Eyerainians are supplying high explosives and shapecharges, too.
http://roomforrant.blogspot.com/2005/08/iran-smuggling-in-shape-charges-used.html
Posted by: Mr. K at August 04, 2005 05:57 PM (xc+qX)
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Has anyone went to Mustafa's web site? I'm curious as to whether or not he's just a common troll or a future target at the US Army live-fire range.
Posted by: Range Control NCOIC at August 04, 2005 08:07 PM (X989z)
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Mustafa fails to understand that history has taught us how to win a guerilla war. When we have had enough of the local population, defending them, supporting them, arming them, supplying intelligence to them you simply get rid of the local populance. Boom. Sudden attitude change. Sudden realization that they were behaving wrong. Sudden desire to get along with the rest of the world. The question can be equated this way. Get it over with quickly, cheaply and finally or draw it out forever and probably have about the same amount of deaths. Also, quess what THE OTHER SIDE GETS TO DIE.
Start rebuilding a civilized middle east now or continue on with this muslim bullshit until we have to do it anyway. Give the bastards 90 days then take total control with all out war. Do these cowardly Islamofacist deserve better than the Germans or Japanese?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 08:28 AM (CBNGy)
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Hijabs now optional?
The head of the Muslim College of London has come out against wearing the hijab. Great news, huh?
Hardly. Dave will tell you why.
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Many thanks for the link, my friend.
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at August 04, 2005 10:10 AM (y1hCN)
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There should not be a muslim college in London.
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Dafydd ab Hugh, Entendrepreneur
Dafydd ab Hugh, though himself a thoroughgoing libertarian, has grown disenchanted with the notion of civil unions, since activists are continuing to use it as a vehicle to sneak in full-blown gay marriage "through the back door."
The double entendres are Daf Ab's, and there are several more of them in his snappy post at Patterico's place--which is one reason I'm linking it; it appeals to both my inner Russell Kirk AND my inner nine-year-old-boy.
The best of the lot, however, is his term for today's insane and counterproductive leftist activism: "Move-onanism".
Snicker snicker...I'll be using that one again.
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Could someone please tell me what impact, if any, this will make on our lives? Who gives two spits if two ladies or two men get "married"? I really dont get it. Just another smoke screan/red herring to keep the masses distracted is all I can figure- and yes, I guess I just wasted a few more seconds of my life on it. Why do any of you care if gays can have civil unions? Really, I would be curious as to how this may effect your personal life and or marriage.
Posted by: Max at August 04, 2005 10:47 AM (HFKAk)
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It doesn't affect heterosexual marriages, but it's simply a case of misapplying a term. The sacrament of marriage is between a man and a woman. Saying that a man (or woman) can marry anything else is not playing by the rules instituted by Judaeo-Christian tradition, which holds the "copyright." It's an affront to logic and truth. It's Orwellian. I can't make a dog a cat simply by calling it a cat.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:43 AM (x+5JB)
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Max
There is no law stating that a private institution must provide anything to heterosexual couples who are married, so it is bullshit to try to force it to be done for homosexual couples. It is using an argument of equality to put in place tyranny.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 04, 2005 12:28 PM (jPCiN)
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Marine Snipers Attacked; Ansar al-Sunnah Claims to Hold One Marine Hostage
Other than the 14 U.S. Marines and one civilian translator who were killed by a powerful roadside bomb in Western Iraq, covered by Mac
here, six U.S. Marine
snipers were ambushed and killed yesterday by terrorists.
Five of the snipers died Monday during an insurgent attack on a patrol outside Haditha, according to a Marine Corps news release. The body of a sixth was discovered later a few miles away. All were killed by small-arms fire, the Marines said.
Pentagon officials in Washington said the men were members of Marine sniper teams operating in the Haditha area.
Truly a sad occurence, but how do snipers get caght off guard and killed? According to a Marine on the ground at the time, all was quiet until a small round of small arms fire alerted Marines on the ground. When they made it up to the snipers nest, five Marines were found. In other words, the enemy snuck up and killed the snipers. Were they tipped off by a member of the Iraqi National Guard of the whereabouts of the snipers?
It is extremely plausible such a tip may have happened. One of the primary concerns of the United States military and the ING is that terrorist and/or insurgent moles have been recruited and joined the ranks of the Iraq military. Snipers do not just get found because they are trained to hide their position.
The Army of Ansar al-Sunnah has claimed responsibility for killing five of the Marine snipers and states they are holding the sixth hostage.
The group's Web site Wednesday posted still photographs showing a bloody, badly wounded body wearing Marine camouflage trousers and two hooded gunmen standing in front of several rifles. Masked gunmen had shown up in the Haditha public market Monday afternoon displaying helmets, flak jackets and other equipment they said was taken from the bodies of the dead Marines.
I have not found the new URL to Ansar al-Sunnah's web site as of yet, but I will continue to search for it. Of course the body of the sixth sniper was found one mile from the original ambush site. Ansar al-Sunnah also states they beheaded five of the snipers, though as with is always the case with Ansar al-Sunnah in particular, the truth is usually far from what they claim.
SITE reports Ansar al-Sunnah released a communique saying they killed eight Marines and are holding one hostage. There is no other news concerning two other Marine deaths in Haditha.
On the positive side of things, Iraqi authorities announced the capture of an Ansar al-Sunnah leader, Majid Mohammed Ahmeen, who was the group's commander in Diyala province.
Update:
I have not found Ansar al-Sunnah's site yet, but Vlad has found a video made (August 4 entry). The video clearly shows jihadis firing mortar rounds, what else is new, and then what appears to be a dead Marine. Sniper rifles are then shown and a pair of dogtags. The assault though is not shown nor is the Marine they are supposedly holding hostage. You would think if they had a Marine held hostage they would show video of him.
Warning: The images are gruesome.
Cross-posted at In the Bullpen
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maybe they can saw Majid Mohammed Ahmee head off on video, it seems fitting if terrorism isn't Islamic to give him the proper apostates death, beheading:
8:12
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.
Posted by: dave at August 03, 2005 03:29 PM (DO6vD)
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R.I.P. fallen heros of the Marine Corps. Your deaths will not go unavenged, I promise you that much.
Posted by: Sgt. America at August 03, 2005 03:53 PM (jdyEn)
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the terrorists are the ones who stole america from the NATIVE AMERICANS. Every american death is pleasing and i hope al qaeda liberate america again and chop their heads off.
Posted by: naveed at August 03, 2005 07:31 PM (XfUdJ)
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Naveed you are an inbred son of a pig.
Posted by: Jester at August 03, 2005 08:03 PM (QKZX5)
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I love when non-Americans try to tell others about their country. In the case of Naveed though, it's even more ironic because he's in England. What a moron. You're the reason why trash like yourself do not stand a chance. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 03, 2005 08:04 PM (8WaYp)
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Since weÂ’re quoting the Koran, I have one too:
And know that out of all the booty that you may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,-and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy and the wayfarerÂ…
-SURAH 8:41
See how generous Islam is my American friends,
Little Ali Hassan at the Haditha Orphanage is really going to love that M4A1 assault rifle
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 03, 2005 11:09 PM (8KBv8)
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Naveed, your blathering comments are about as useless as a pig in Mecca.
It is true that "American" colonists took (and in many cases, purchased) the land from the Native Americans. This occurred during a time when such "imperialist" expansion was the norm, not the exception. Oh, but how many cultures of this world have Arab Muslimes (I misspelled it for a reason) uprooted and/or enslaved? Northern/Eastern/Central Africa, Spain, Persia, Central Asia, Turkey, the Balkans, etc. These lands have all suffered at the hands of Muslime terrorists. Your Muslime ancestors first attacked Christianity by destroying the Christian Byzantine and Persian empires, AND the Christian monarchies in Syria (Ghassanids) and Iraq (Montherits). Hmmm... didn't the Christian Crusades occur after that? I wonder why...
Don't even preach to us about being terrorists, you blind idiot! Your culture's past (and present!!) reeks of expansionism and terrorism. You just hide it behind Allah.
Speaking of pigs in Mecca...
Naveed, being a good Muslim, lives in England, so he can enjoy the wealth and freedom provided by the "terrorists" he claims to hate. What are you hiding from Naveed? Don't like the freedom enjoyed by your Muslime brothers in the Holy Land? Is it a bit too violent for you in your home town and/or country? You enjoy the peace and security of England, don't you? Chad is right; you (and the millions of other "Muslimes" like you) are the reason your Muslime "crusade" will fail.
Hey, I just thought of something: is it possible that your post violated a new law in the UK? I think I'll forward your post and your email address to a buddy at Paddington Green...
Posted by: Wild Bill at August 03, 2005 11:22 PM (Zzdkl)
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Now now now now now, thereÂ’s no need for name calling. We all walked of the same boat after the flood. Both Christians and Muslims can agree on that.
Nobody is a pig here. Pigs eat pig feed, Muslims eat cup ramen and Americans eat freedom fries. God is good, all is well.
Wild Bill, if you are Christian, u should learn to tern the other cheek.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 03, 2005 11:51 PM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru, if you're replying to my post, I'm not sure why you pounced on me rather than Jester. Am I more of a threat to you than Jester? He had the balls to address Naveed's pig heritage outright; I only implied pig.
Here's the deal:
I don't take too kindly to someone who enjoys, and wishes for, the violent, painful deaths of any/all Americans (or any person for that matter). I think that calling someone a "pig" is rather mild compared to stating that "every american death is pleasing... chop their heads off." Keep it real Morimoto. It's what's happened since we all got off that boat that matters now.
And please don't preach to me about what a Christian should do. Are you a Christian? I can't "tern" the other cheek; I've run out of cheeks. Muslims aren't hindered by such teachings (quite the opposite!), yet they readily invoke them for Christians (to gain an advantage?). I believe that the peaceful teachings of Jesus (the Injil) will ultimately prevail over the violent teachings of Muhammad (the Hadith), but some other Christians are gonna have to win this war that way. I guess I'm weak; I can't do it anymore.
Here's hoping that all Muslim terrorists spend eternity submitting to Iblis as the new tenants of the Hawijah.
Posted by: Wild Bill at August 04, 2005 01:37 AM (Zzdkl)
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Naveed, you're not playing your islamic victim card right. You're supposed to justify the brutal disgusting and barbaric acts done in the name of Islam by telling everybody how America has opressed Islam..
I'll give you some hints:
Afghanistan: Got weapons from the US to fight the Soviets.
Gulf war I: US saved Mecca's ass from Saddam.
Bosnia: The US stopped the genocide done against the Muslims.
Gulf war II: Gave the Shia freedom to practice their religion (I know, it's a weak argument because you tend to throw carbombs at them too..)
Posted by: Ren at August 04, 2005 08:27 AM (a9tRx)
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All the more reason why captured Jihadi terrorists ought to be interrogated using blow-torches, and once answers have been extracted, they should be impaled alongside the roads and highways of Iraq.
Dead Jihadis' bodies should be rigged with explosives so that when their local village support network comes out to bury them, kaboom!
(Muslims like to bury their dead within 24 hours, its a religious requirement).
Posted by: Michael Lopez-Calderon at August 04, 2005 09:37 AM (x6TjU)
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Wild bill, it was more of a suggestion than “preaching.”
But if u want to know why I “pounced on” you, when indeed others have said a lot worse, it is because I guessed you were Christian and I believe I guessed right. I am simply going by biblical principle. People of high spirituality receive high rewards, but also high punishment when they mess up. In the same way, it is possible that an adulterer has committed a greater sin than a murderer if the adulterer has high knowledge of the word of God, and the murderer has none.
I do not believe that Naveed has said anything that should draw attack from Christians. He is only acting according to his religion, and he is just a victim if anything. U chose to confront a Muslim acting accordingly under Islam by attacking both the individual and his faith. While attacking Islam or any false teaching is biblical, Attacking the individual is not. I believe I am keeping it “real”as you call it. Don’t you realize that Naveed has stayed in the comfort of his faith while managing to have you act outside of your own. That may have been his plan to begin with. U may feel like u told him off, but to me, it just looks like you fell into a trap.
I believe u know a lot about Islam, I think u know enough about it to know that what Naveed said was most likely influenced heavily by his faith. So why do you offend him? I also think u know enough about your own religion to know how to respond to Naveed, but instead u are calling him names with people like Jester and Chad. That is why I felt that you should learn to turn the other cheek. IÂ’m sure u can please may fellow Americans and your Government by joining in on offending Naveed, but I donÂ’t see how it would please God. They eat and drink with you but their heart is not with you. 神に従うのが一番大事
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 09:55 AM (8KBv8)
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Uh, Kaoru, where did Naveed say anything about his religion? If someone says the Americans are terrorists because they took land from Native Americans and uses this as the basis to wish Americans dead, they are a moron stuck on twisted history.
I appreciate you including my name in your last comment, but no where did I attack Islam in any way. Please choose your comments a bit more wisely.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 10:13 AM (Yxk8B)
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See how generous Islam is my American friends
Funniest quote by far on this board. You should get your own show, like Chapelle but with Burkas, and funny fatwas for skits.
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:34 AM (DO6vD)
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Chad! Please! Do you really think that Naveed feels Americans should all die because of what happened with the Native Americans? He feels that way because he is Muslim, and according to the Koran, non-Muslims have three choices; convert, pay taxes to Muslims, or die.
Also, everyone else seems quit convinced that Naveed is Muslim, why else would they be using Islam against him.
I believe I said that attacking Islam was biblical. Calling the individual names is not. That is why I included your name, because u called him a “moron” and “trash.” If you want to be politically correct, it is better to offend an individual than to attack a religion. If you want to be Christian, you challenge false teachings like Islam and be careful not to offend the individual. That Is what I am telling Wild Bill, because he identifies himself as a Christian. So Chad, what I say should not concern you unless u are Christian. You are talking about being politically correct if your defense is not attacking Islam, I was talking about being biblically correct.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 11:06 AM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru: I understand what you are saying.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:33 AM (x+5JB)
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I’m sorry Chad, I misunderstood you when you said that Naveed did not mention anything about his religion. I thought you were suggesting that he was not Muslim, but I realize now that you simply did not understand how Naveed can be in compliance with Islam without mentioning his religion. You see, all of the offensive things that Naveed said about America is in compliance with Islam. Non-Muslims like Americans are infidels in the Koran and must be killed. Muslims who befriend infidels must also be killed. Also, Muslims can treat “infidels” however they want. So yes, Naveed is being a good Muslim if you want to know the truth. I will quote from the Koran as proof if you wish.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 11:35 AM (8KBv8)
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"You see, all of the offensive things that Naveed said about America is in compliance with Islam. Non-Muslims like Americans are infidels in the Koran and must be killed."
Kaoru: Well said. Now if only Moslems who refute this would own up to these facts.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:46 AM (x+5JB)
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I can assure you my name calling is just that, as I am mighty angry about the BS the liberals swallow about the lies of Islam. The rise of Islam IS a real threat to the life I chose to live and I would be miserable in an Islamic society...even more so than if the Germans or Japanese had won WW2. To all the Muslims who defend their way of life...please piss off back to your own societies and stop trying to change ours. I'm a mighty proud westerner and the infidels in my eyes are the ones who follow Allah and all that other islamic crap.
Well said Wild Bill, you have a good grasp of history.
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 06:57 PM (QKZX5)
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U donÂ’t have to justify name calling to me Jester, the suggestion I made to Wild Bill was strictly Christian to Christian. I do not have any suggestion on how secular persons should conduct themselves.
“I would be miserable in an Islamic society...even more so than if the Germans or Japanese had won WW2.”
On a secular note, I hope u are not suggesting that if Japan “won” the war, Americans would have had to live under Japanese rule. You give us too much credit. Japan was after South-East Asia and the South Pacific, not the world. Japan was a limited power with a limited vision. Japan’s attack on America was a desperate attempt to keep the China campaign from falling apart. In protest of Japan’s conquest in China, the Americans made the strategic move of cutting off Japans oil and other supplies. Japan’s objective in fighting America was to get America off its back, so that they do not have to withdraw from China. An unconditional surrender was an American objective.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 08:03 PM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru..I also respect your knowledge of history. You would have to admit that the Japanese psyche would not be comfortable with Islamic doctrine though, as the Japanese are a forward thinking progressive people. I am not Christian nor do I profess to be as I would not turn the other cheek and am far too cynical to believe in harmony.
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 10:22 PM (QKZX5)
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Harmony ? Jester, I think you have Christianity confused with some other religion. Perhaps Buddhism?
Harmony with whom? Muslims, idolaters, or atheists? Do you believe that Christianity never goes on the offensive? Do you not know that God kills?
Yes, we are told not to offend people and to turn the other cheek when offended, especially by non-believers. This does not mean that we respect their ways, or that we do not intend on trying to destroy their ungodly practices. Islam and Christianity is similar in the respect that we both want to put down what is not of our religion. But in that war, Christians simply have a lot more rules of engagement.
Christianity is not the flowery religion that many people like to present it as. The Christianity you are thinking of is much like secular Islam when it comes to level of devotion.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 05, 2005 01:30 AM (8KBv8)
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It's not Christianity vs Islam it's USA vs the ugly side of Islam.
I haven't seen AQ threaten Christianity..
It's about world dominace, they want to take over the ME and rule in the name of Islam and the only real superpower is in blocking their way.
Posted by: Ren at August 05, 2005 06:19 AM (a9tRx)
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Mr. Morimoto: I am not a Christian. However, I still think Naveed's mother mated with a pig. So you understand this is not a religious thing.
As far as Japans unannounced attack on the United States. Stupid! They probably could have made some sort of deal had they not become best friends with Hitler. As things go. Japan came out allright. Don't you agree? I am certain Japan appreciates Americas actions after their unconditional surrender.
You need to rethink the simularity between Islam and Christianity.
There is no simularity. Islam is based on hatred, war, jealousy and inferiority. Perhaps, race (I'm personally sure of that) others will disagree. Christianity has outgrown its barbarism of 1000 years ago. Islam hasn't as yet come that far. All in all Islam is a backward religion practised by backward people. They are a danger to all others. They continue to exist because the west (including Japan) is civilized and refuses admit to the solution. The only solution that will bring peace to the world.
A terrible thing happened to two cities in Japan 60 years ago. However, we must admit, it brought about peace. In a hurry.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 08:23 PM (CBNGy)
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The war between Christianity and Islam has been going on long before America came along, even in more modern days. A more resent example would be the civil war that occurred in Lebanon between Christian Arabs and Muslim Arabs.
Greyrooster, no offense but I think you are the only one here that completely misunderstood my posts.
I assure you that I never suggested of there being a general similarity between Islam and Christianity, which is clearly what u are implying. Yes, Christianity is completely different from Islam, but there are some specific things we have in common. This is a fact. Have u studied both the Bible and Koran?
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 06, 2005 03:14 AM (8KBv8)
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Greyrooster, about my comment on WW2, the only point I was trying to make (in response to Jesters statement) is that Japan was not a threat to the sovereignty of the US as Germany was. I took no sides, I was just getting the facts strait. I did not make any statement glorifying JapanÂ’s conquest, but u seem set on attacking any Japanese that even mentions the war. What are you so paranoid about? The Fat Man and Little Boy?
I donÂ’t believe I said anything that is deserving of being slapped with Justifications of the Atomic bombings. What does that have to do with my comment in the first place. Convince someone else, because I am from Saga City, which was the original target for the second atomic bomb. As u see, my existence was on the line.
I think it is interesting to mention that Nagasaki, of the second bombing, is where most of the countrie's Christians were concentrated. This obviously hindered the spread of Christianity in Japan, because they (Japanese Christians) were wiped out. ThatÂ’s something else the bombs brought about besides fast food peace. Also, The city of Nagasaki was divided in two by a mountain, with one side being made up of residential districts and the other side by business districts. Which side do you think was bombed? Lets just say that the working men had no wives and kids to come home to.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 06, 2005 03:20 AM (8KBv8)
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I knew Bosko, i served with him,all six of those men, i am sick and can't sleep at night, just like Naveed these cowards can't face there enemies they have to run and hide like little kids..their day is coming and they will feel the raith and wish their idiotic God, that they claim they fight for, was here to save em all, burn in hell.....and you will
Posted by: Usmcsniper at August 06, 2005 11:51 AM (XiOqK)
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Mr. Morimoto. I believe you are the one who misunderstood my posting. Anyway, my intention was not to be accusative. So my apology may be in order. Paranoid? Only about the muslim threat to world piece. The bombing of Japan?. I agree with it. Japanese civilians may have been killed, but better them than our soldiers who would have had to invade. I lost my father in that war. I was two. People on this side of the ocean suffered to. All accounts seem to think the Japanese were the only ones who suffered. Not so. Think about all the people slaughtered by the Japanese Military machine.
What bothers me at times is that I do not hate the Japanese. I guess because I respect bravery. The Japanese did fight with courage. On the other hand, they started the damn war with a sneak attack on America. No bravery there. Attacking sleeping men on a Sunday morning. Christians in Nagasaki? Why should I care about that? There were Christians in England, Italy, Mexico, Spain, France, Germany, etc. etc. We kicked their asses. Why would Christians in Japan be any different? Now who is paranoid? Bravery? The Bataan death march? Nanking? Korea? I really need to stop thinking about this subject.
I might change my mind.
besides I drink too much. Again, my intention was not to offend. Two sides to every story huh! I always take America's side. Why? Simple. I am an American.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 06, 2005 07:58 PM (CBNGy)
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Greyrooster, I did not say u were being accusative but that u were defensive for no reason , but u clearly did speak as if I was taking sides with Japan, which I was not. That is called accusative. Jester suggested Japan was a threat to AmericaÂ’s sovereignty, I pointed out it was not. That was the only thing going on there. Why were u suggesting I should be more appreciative of your country. Just because a Japanese points out a simple fact about the war does not mean he intends to palliate JapanÂ’s wartime past. I assure u, I will not palliate my nations past. I suggest u save your energy for when a nasty Japanese comes along to do exactly that, because I know they are out there, but I am not one of them.
I guessed u would not care about Japanese Christians because u are not Christian, I just though it was an interesting part of history, and since U mentioned the atomic bombs (for God knows why,) I thought I would mention it. Did u know that about Nagasaki? Was it not interesting? U care about America because u are American, I care about Christians because I am Christians, lets leave it at that. I u feel that saving American lives is important, I will not contest that my friend, but do not be so cold hearted towards my Christian breathers and sisters around the world by saying “We kicked their asses.” I am sure there is a less harsh way to say it.
Any worldly “good” that a nation does will not draw praise from me, and any evil that a nation commits will not surprise me, nor will the people who defend or glorify their country for the sake of nationalism. This is because I love God, not my country, nor any nation for that matter.
If u thin I love Japan, u are dead wrong. It was not too long ago that we Japanese Christians were being slaughtered by the Idolaters of Japan. So my loyal American, If u want to take sides thatÂ’s fine, but get this strait, the only side I have is my religion. All nations (my nation and yours) will come to an end, but god is forever. World peace is not biblically possible. True Christians wait for the death of this world and the lords coming with eagerness.
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I must apologize for spamming this post with topics off subject. This post should be reserved for the sympathy of the dead soldiers, and attacking Islam‘s twisted ideology. RIP.
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Enough said, as the only religion I attack is Islam. Which I feel is more than a religion.
One mention concerning Nagasaki. The army annouced that it had missed its target by several miles immediately after the attack.
So much for insenuation that we purposely bombed civilians instead of industry. Bombing in those days was not an exact science.
The reason I mentioned atomic bomb was that it ended the war. Brought about peace. Stopped the torture and killing in Asia. Saved American lives and started the road to reconstruction and wealth for Japan. The association is perhaps that it will be the only solution to the present situation with the Islamofacists.
The mentioning of Japan attacked us first. Americans were dying. More Americans would continue to die if the war was not ended quickly. The decision to bomb Japan was based on saving lives. Particularly American lives. IT WORKED. The slaughter ended a few days later.
Now in comparisome: Islam attacked us first. Americans are dying. More Americans will continue to die if the war is not ended quickly.
The solution: It worked once against a much braver enemy. Why not twice?
Please do not feel that I mentioned Japan because it is Japan. Japan is the only country that we ever nuked so I had no other example.
Jester's comment: Japan was not a threat to America's sovereignity? Who were those guys running all over the Aleute Islands with the little rising sun flags. What was their purpose? Vacation?
Kicking ass is an American expression. When someone starts trouble with us we kick his ass.
I realize some of you Christians are waiting for the death of this world. I prefer to spend my time making it a better, safer place. To do that, those like me must sometimes fight against religions.
Have I studied the Bible? Yes, as a young man I was deeply involved in the Catholic Church. Totally brainwashed by the Franciscan nuns. Vietnam brought me to my senses.
Study the Koran: Picked it up and soon put in down. Garbage. Hateful garbage, nothing more.
Time to feed the animals. Have a nice day.
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If you noticed, I was trying to refrain from debating the Atomic bombings with u by letting u have the last word on the subject, but u continue to provoke me by further justifications. I already expressed that I will not contest your opinion if u believed it was important in saving American lives.
U still gave no sensible reason of why u mentioned the bombings in the first place. The bombs have nothing to do with anything anyone was talking about. Considering how controversial the subject is, I think it was very rude of u to justify the bombings out of the blue to a Japanese that has not even said anything about it, especially knowing that most Japanese people would be offended by it. If u wanted to debate the subject, u should have gone to a forum where people are talking about it.
I doubt I should even bother debating the subject with a guy thatÂ’s still caught up in a 60 year-old propaganda. You still present all the same justifications that was presented by Truman after the bombing. A lot more is known about the bombings now, thanks to declassified US documents, and it only makes the bombing more difficult to defend. So I suggest u drop the matter with me now, but if u want to debate, go ahead, take another punch at it. U started this after all.
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On second thought, I will be away on a trip so I will not be able to debate anyway. So whatever you say, I will not be able to respond to it. So if your going to take a bash at me, I suggest u tone it down a bit, If u have any honor in u.
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Mr. Morimoto: "I think it is interesting to mention that Nagasaki, of the second bombing, is where most of the countrie's (sic) Christians were concentrated."
Ever read Solange Hertz? She makes mention of this fact and finds deep significance in it. Yes, we Christians wait for the New World, but we still have to keep working at improving this world, right?
Peace to you.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 09:32 AM (x+5JB)
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Yea. Turns out they have internet even in the middle of no where. Dial-up but oh well.
"Japan was not a threat to America's sovereignity? Who were those guys running all over the Aleute Islands with the little rising sun flags. What was their purpose? Vacation?"
Yeah, It can get crazy with thoes little flags. But thats a threat to Americas Imperialism, not sovereignity, unless the former Native American lands isn't big enough for u
Posted by: Morimoto at August 09, 2005 01:58 PM (clzIx)
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This is just silly, Muslums, Christians, who's right, who's wrong. Well if you still believe in any of these outdated religons your a dreamy eyed fool. The Bible, Tora, Koran, are all storybooks. It makes about as much sence to believe in any of this crap as worshipping Harry Potter books. To justify killing with for these beliefs is just immature. Grow up, take responsibilty for your actions, think for yourself stop folowing the idiots guides to life. The war is about money for our American leaders, and that's the bottom line. The Administration has used it to push through so many agendas and laws. The war is about religion for the Muslums fighting it. It has given a new face to Jihad. If the whole world exploded today you all would be right and wrong.
I must thank every one spouting off there own version of what's right. You ammuse me!
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WTW Clean your room or I'll beat you with this ashtray.
By golly I was able to come up with a good candidate this week besides myself. Cool huh. My WTW nominee for this week isÂ…
Kim, I swear if I have to put down this beer you are going to get it, Basinger age 34 of Evansville IN.
Police say she had been drinking all day and punched her son in the head several times, and attacked him with an extension cord and ash tray.
She then chased him through their West Michigan Street neighborhood.
The boy suffered bruises above his right eye, a bruise on the back of his leg and some bumps on the head.
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and because she is a woman, besides being his mother, and being that too many judges feel that only a woman can raise a child, this druhken woman will retain custody of this poor child, until the next beating he recieves or until the mother murders him, accidentaly or not...ive seen it way too may times and im sure many others have as well...and no im not being sexist or biased, but we all know that many judges feel that only a woman/mother can raise children...if this was a man beating his child, you all know how fast the courts are too strip the father of his custody rights and tossed in jail....of course if there is definite proof of this, the father beating his child to the point of serious/life threatning injury, than it would be right for him to loose his custody rights but too many times the "proof" is made up by the child and/or the mother and its all very sad that a father in such a case is by all chance doomed
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 03, 2005 12:58 PM (9gFP6)
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Thanos:
Don't you know that men are pack mules and nothing more.
Posted by: Howie at August 03, 2005 01:25 PM (D3+20)
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Wow, that sounds like a bunch of blathering self pity. Don't be too sure that she retains her parental rights! I've also seen a number of dad's on the "father's rights" bandwagons who are violent and predatory...not saying that's you of course but sheesh. What is this, a race to the bottom, to see who's the biggest victim?
Posted by: anonymoose at August 03, 2005 02:04 PM (AHaCg)
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The sad thing is that Kim was probably beaten with a NASCAR David Pearson replica die cast car or hit with a bowling trophy when she was growing up.
How do you break the cycle of PWT?
Posted by: Brad at August 03, 2005 02:40 PM (3OPZt)
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What is sad, my sister is a lawyer in Denver. She took on a bono
child custody case for a mother who turned gay. Her ex, was just
getting out of jail for attempted murder. The judge awarded it
the custody to the husband because the husband was straight and
because he "served his time", while the mother was still proclaiming
to be gay. (Begin sarcasam) Lesbie/attempted Murder, that is an easy choice, the Murder. (End Sarcasm).
Posted by: Butch at August 03, 2005 05:16 PM (Gqhi9)
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Butch, maybe your sister is just a crappy lawyer.
Posted by: Charles at August 03, 2005 08:25 PM (lQ1Or)
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Or Charles, maybe the judge was some homophobe right wing conservative, who fears gays more then he does murderers. Also
my sister has told me that out of cases where you can win or lose,
she wins twice as many as she loses, and most losses are due to
Right Wing Conservative. You go figure.
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She took on a bono? Ha, ha, ha. Great Butch great. Got to be a democrat.
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Steven Vincent, Blog Warrior/Correspondent, Murdered in Basra
Wretchard at
The Belmont Club has
a short piece on the murder of Steven Vincent in Basra, including some links to other information and stories. Fellow reporter Michael Yon
has a short note pointing out that he had just communicated with Vincent and that the translator apparently survived. The
National Review Online has Mr. Vincent's final article, dispatched just hours before his death:
On Again, Off Again: A Power Problem in Basra.
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Good to know the Commander in Chief is takin the GSAVE seriously:
The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening for a stretch of clearing brush, visiting with family and friends, and tending to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.
The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.
Posted by: Max at August 03, 2005 10:44 AM (HFKAk)
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"Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further."
Are the libs complaining, Max?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 03, 2005 10:47 AM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Howie at August 03, 2005 10:53 AM (D3+20)
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LetÂ’s all chip in and buy some land in Texas for Ted Kennedy.
HMMMMMMÂ….. better make is a plot with no water, and nothing close to schools.
Posted by: Brad at August 03, 2005 11:16 AM (3OPZt)
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LGF seems to think Mooky's thugs killed him... why we let that bastard live is beyond me...
Posted by: Ariya at August 03, 2005 12:13 PM (noCGr)
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Yes, RIP. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way... In this WaTimes piece, he states that crooks and corruption are the problem in Basra, not terrorists... I would be very curious to know if his opinion would has changed in the afterlife. http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/dwest.htm
Posted by: RomeoDelta at August 03, 2005 01:02 PM (AHaCg)
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first off, Max makes it sound like that all Bush is doing at his ranch is having tons of fun cleaning away brush....ever hear of a working vacation Max, and who says the president cant take a trip to his ranch???....oh yea, like all those Democrats are ALWAYS in washington just waiting to get into session...yea, like remember all those trips Kerry took/takes instead of being around in Washington to cast his votes, gee seems he misses like 60-70% of those votes were he should be instead of running off to France to kiss up to Lance Armstrong.....second, how long before the MSM casts the blame for Vincents death on the military???
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 03, 2005 01:03 PM (9gFP6)
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"There is an old saying in Tennessee-I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee-that says, fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me-you can't get fooled again."
Posted by: roger at August 03, 2005 02:01 PM (5Tl6+)
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http://spencepublishing.typepad.com/in_the_red_zone/2005/08/steven_vincent__1.html#comments
lefty's are having a field day defacing his blog with statements like 'rest in piss' and 'rest in pieces' they know no shame.
Posted by: dave at August 03, 2005 02:48 PM (DO6vD)
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dave- unless you have super powers and can read if some one is a "liberal" by their handle, how can you say that the jack-ass who writes "rest in piss" is not some rethug? They seem to be the people with a major freaked out beef with the media. Those posters are 8765-wads not Dems or Repubs- just jerks.
Thanos- your kidding right? Kerry is not our President, so that is a pointless arguement.
Posted by: Max at August 03, 2005 04:29 PM (HFKAk)
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um got me there Brainiac!
Could it be the fact when you click his nickname, it takes you to a website which spouts gun control rhetoric and anti Bush propaganda? BzZZT! we have a WINNER!
Posted by: dave at August 03, 2005 09:58 PM (DO6vD)
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Dave- ya got me there- I couldn't be bothered to go up thread I was so disguted. Had read his op-ed and the read his obit today- re-inforced my sadness.
Posted by: Max at August 04, 2005 12:22 PM (HFKAk)
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Some complain about President Bush not being at the White House. Dorks apparently don't know he has total communication. The same as if he were at the White House getting blow jobs like Clinton. Now I ask you. Would he answer the phone quicker at his ranch or would he answer quicker in the middle of a blow job? Maybe Clinton's lesbian wife would answer as she was probably watching as Monica performed.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 06, 2005 07:28 PM (CBNGy)
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No, no, no! The OTHER Madonna!
First eBay brings you Madonna on grilled cheese.
Now...
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Posted by: Howie at August 03, 2005 10:15 AM (D3+20)
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I wouldn't take it if they gave it to me. And paid the shipping. Yech!
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 03, 2005 10:35 AM (DDXXI)
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Howie, the highest bid is only $.06. They're looking for an $.11 bid now. You're getting ripped off.
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When is Losing not Losing?
Why when you're the Democratic party, of course. The party of "we've got everything backwards" seems to not be able to tell a win from a loss in this latest congressional race. The
AP hosts the story this morning in which Democrats claim a victory in Ohio (why is it always Ohio?) even though their candidate only recieved 47% of the vote. And why did they claim a victory? Because their candidate managed to get 47% of the vote, up from 29% for the last joker they tried to run in that district. Of course there were a number of contributing factors. After warning Bush in the last election that using Iraq and 9/11 would be playing dirty pool, they disregard their own rules and hype their own candidate as a seven month Iraqi war "veteran." Not only that, but the man is a rabid Bush-hater, coming out with statments like the following:
He drew attention to the race with his flame-throwing assaults on Bush, namely for the president's July 2003 "bring 'em on" comment about Iraqi insurgents. Hackett called the comment "most incredibly stupid comment" he ever heard a president make, and said it "cheered on the enemy."
Oh yeah. Calling them "Minutemen" certainly wouldn't cheer the enemy, now would it? Calling our own soldiers (in which Hackett would be lumped) Getstapo, or Pol Pot wouldn't cheer the enemy soldiers on now would it? Publicly stating your wishes that our troops would die certainly wouldn't cheer our enemies on, would it? Trying to say that everything the President does is wrong and creating a huge rift within this country wouldn't do anything to cheer the terrorists on at all, now would it? All those and more are things that have been done by the Democrats. And yet they want to choose one instance and latch on it. Worry it like a dog with a bone. And then they can't even choose anything that might have real substance.
This race is a harbringer of what is to come in 2006. We're going to see more and more attacks on our President as the Democrats attempt to sling mud in the general direction of the people whom they are running against. We're going to see the wedges of diviseness driven even deeper into our communities as they attempt to portray how "evil" the Republicans are. They count the Ohio race as a victory because they played dirty, smear politics and came close to a win. Of course they also fail to account that most of their runners will NOT be associated with the Iraq war and will be running against an incumbent. But the "reality-based" community will continue to see only what they want and continue to play the kind of dirty pool that divides this great nation and loses them elections. To them, I say "Bring it on!" Because the more of this junk you try, the more support, and elections, you're going to lose. Just think, you might could have had a victory in Ohio if you hadn't been spewing hate.
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Scary, isn't it - how one guy who runs solely on a platform of his military service and his opposition to the war can come so close. A guy who hasn't claimed one single position on one single social issue. Is he pro or anti abortion? Is he pro or anti gay marriage? What is his stance on property rights for Ohioans? What ideas does he have to ease taxes. For state welfare? How does he feel about unions - Ohio is a big manufacturing state. Plans or ideas for Social Security? No one seems to know. Look at this website. He doesn't answer any of these questions. He complains a lot. That's about it.
Republicans better get a clue and I hope they watched this race very closely.
Posted by: Oyster at August 03, 2005 06:37 AM (YudAC)
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You're right, but I also think the fact that he wasn't battling an incumbent helped matters somewhat. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing if you put this Dem up against an incumbent Republican, he would have gotten the requisite 21% just like all the Dems before him. At least that's what I'm hoping.
Either way, you're right. Republicans need to stand up and take notice now.
Posted by: Drew at August 03, 2005 06:53 AM (Ml8z/)
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He did pretty well. See that's what I'm worried about. I didn't have to vote for him and hey obnoxious statements I'm like the king of that when I don't watch myself or feel bad. Yep that's my natural state ornery little punk. If this guy could have watched his mouth ,oh god I'm like so empathetic, he may have done a bit better. In my opinion she was the better candidate from what I know but see his was a heavily conservative district so the fact that this guy did well even with the ornery statements gives me a bit of foreboding for my party next Nov. I've been bitching about the fact that the middle so often ends up not participting on election day and then whines all year afterward. Maybe the middle is waking up to the fact that if they don't vote they hjave no right to whine about it. I vote so I'll whine bitch complain grouch gripe but I'll try and keep it to a minumum when I can but some times I fall back into my natural state of ornery little punk.
Posted by: Howie at August 03, 2005 08:55 AM (D3+20)
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One more thought, It's not about the war. It may seem that way but it's not. The London bombings have taken care of that. It's the domestic bull in a china shop stuff. At least it is for me.
Posted by: Howie at August 03, 2005 09:59 AM (D3+20)
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In this politically correct world, he did not "lose". This is known as just "deferred success."
Posted by: Jerry Burns at August 03, 2005 10:25 AM (sYhjT)
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Schmidt is a tax and spend Republican that didn't play well with the base. The Club for Growth took a pass on her. So she started out as damaged goods. In a special election it's mostly the base that votes.
Given all the lies, the deceit, she still won. The Rs need to get a better stronger candidate for 2006, that much is clear. The Republicans need to realize they must field good candidates.
Posted by: tarpon at August 03, 2005 10:35 AM (QJhZY)
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Republicans who run as conservatives should govern as conservatives if they want to win again. It just cannot be said enough.
Posted by: Brent at August 03, 2005 04:20 PM (Ltkej)
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Give a (D)umbassrat enough rope and they'll hang themselves
*smirk*
is hoping they do a bad thing ?
Posted by: Jonathan at August 03, 2005 07:52 PM (wdVtc)
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His mouth and playing to the hate Bush crowd lost it for him. He was obviously playing for the black vote, the anti-Bush vote, the anti-so called war vote. Not proud that he is an EX-Marine.
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ABC Gets Banned In Russia For Broadcast Of Interview With Terrorist Leader
At least the Russians know a terrorist collaborator and facilitator when they see one! If only we could do the same thing for the MSM's non-stop diatribe of Islamist-fueling anti-American articles:
A Russian government spokesman has said accreditations for ABC News reporters would not be renewed and that, in the meantime, they would not be allowed to talk to any Russian officials. This follows an ABC broadcast of an interview with warlord Shamil Basayev, a Chechen rebel leader (MSM-speak for a what everyone else would call a terrorist). In a statement, the Foreign Ministry said: "ABC is now unwelcome to contact any Russian state organisations or bodies.
Let's hear it for Putin. Way to go guy! We're talking about the terrorist who said he was behind the attack on a school in Beslan last September which killed around 300 people.
cross posted by Hyscience
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Posted by: Jonathan at August 03, 2005 01:10 AM (wdVtc)
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Gee, could it be that the Russians are finally starting to wake up?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 03, 2005 01:14 AM (0yYS2)
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The warlord Shamil Basayev? Who's that? He's fighting the oppressive Russian government in a movement of liberation /ABC
Basayev. That name sounds vaguely familiar. Oh, you mean the Butcher of Beslan. Now, that makes it all clearer. You got an interview and forgot to inform the Russian special forces who would love to whack the guy for killing 330+ men, women, and children in a
school /Russians who love their kids and don't forget ABC perfidy
Posted by: lawhawk at August 03, 2005 08:57 AM (AcoYr)
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what will it take for the US goverment to see how the MSM is full of traitors????....an interview with Osama himself in some cave or safe house on the Pakistan border???....how is it that the MSM can seem to get interviews with these mass murderers so easily and the military can not find these people???...gee, think it has something to do with the FACT that the MSM loves these mass murderer and would gladly give these scum air time just to make President Bush and all of America look bad???....i think its time{and i know what the liberal/lefties are gonna cry} that the US does something about these TRAITORS in the MSM...its one thing for them to REPORT on the war, not take sides and give aid, comfort and air time to the enemy
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 03, 2005 10:14 AM (9gFP6)
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Three cheers for ABC -- I think
Posted by: Don Surber at August 03, 2005 09:22 PM (9dzVM)
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3 cheers for ABC?!?
I hope you're joking. Otherwise, you need....therapy.
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WND says Bedfordshire police officers have been told to take their shoes off during raids of Muslim homes and avoid talking with anyone 'praying':
WND—Police officers in England's Bedfordshire county have been told to take off their shoes and not interrupt anyone praying during raids of Muslim homes, according to leaked guidelines.
The 18-point guide, under development before the recent London bombing attacks, says "the Muslim community feels victimized and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny." [. . .]
I think someone had one too many Newcastle's when they wrote up those guidelines...
Cross-posted at OpinionBug.com
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Do we need any further proof that Liberalism is a mental illness?
Posted by: Anonymous at August 02, 2005 07:54 PM (8e/V4)
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Somebody needs to wake up...Britain is NOT a Muslim territory. Muslim law should stay in the Middle East and other backward societies. These swines will just use this as an excuse to stir up further bullshit...stop kissing their backsides Britain and get real.
Posted by: Jester at August 02, 2005 08:48 PM (QKZX5)
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I found some very interesting articles about
The End of Democracy in or fall of Democracy in Europe
1 refusal to state the truth
2 accommodating your enemy customs
Here in the US I know one police
Department that is have sensitivity
Classes for
It officers on how to deal with Muslims
I am sure other police Depts. are doing the
same Wont are Solders be surprised when the
Come home to find what they have been fighting
For in the Middle East has been
Lost on the home front
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Zebrab5 at August 02, 2005 10:17 PM (DoxEP)
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I should hope they also have to put on a Jawa cloak when they go and raid Dr. Shackleford's abode.
And no raids on Fridays either!
Sheesh. Sadly, this is what we'll be doing circa Jan 2009 if we don't stop this BS
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at August 03, 2005 12:14 AM (Smj9O)
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THEY feel victimized? I'd like to show the cocksuckers what victimized feels like; set their asses on fire and throw them from a high-rise office window, or saw off their head with a dull, rusty knife. That's victimized. Jesus, I just can't believe the crap...
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 03, 2005 01:13 AM (0yYS2)
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Gee I wonder if they were so thoughtful when they arrested the pedophile priests in Boston? I sure hope they didn't interrupt them in the middle of any Hail Marys.
Posted by: Oyster at August 03, 2005 06:44 AM (YudAC)
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New guidelines for raiding Muslim homes
Search warrant does not apply, first police must get a fatwa issued by 4 seperate clerics five days prior to raid.
Women police must wear Bhurkas before entering house.
No weapons or hi tech equipment inside, it is insulting.
No bomb sniffing dogs, it is haram.
No conduct a raid while ongoing prayer, police must stand off until prayer is finished.
Don't bring any holy water or crosses, it hurts eyes.
And last: All police must convert to islam before entering the household.
Follow these new guidelines, it's Allah's will.
Posted by: Ren at August 03, 2005 08:18 AM (a9tRx)
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how utterly stupid and assinine....so if the police are making a raid on a suspected terrorist who can be armed to the teeth, they are suposed to take off their shoes so the guy/guys can make their escape out the backdoor with their addidas sneakers on....the Muslims in Britian HAVE to be laughing at the English people, they have to be, cause i know i am right now and its out of pity at the English people who are bending over just so the Muslims can shaft them right up the backdoor....and i was sohoping to make another trip to England next year....guess thats out of the question, cause at this rate, England will be filled with nasty, smelly, American hating, terrorist loving Muslims by than....Englands own fault for being TOO liberal and letting immigrants tell them how to run the British goverment...i pray it never gets that far here in the US...i am a firm beleiver in this saying....Welcome to America, Now speak English.....
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 03, 2005 10:24 AM (9gFP6)
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I heard that Paul Simon did the same to the FDNY (insisted boots be removed before entering) when they came to put out a kitchen fire in his posh New York residence a few years ago...
Posted by: slickdpdx at August 03, 2005 11:02 AM (MjGRu)
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It gets MUCH, MUCH, worse than just shoes, my friend:
http://www.punditmark.com/archives/001778.html
Posted by: Mark at August 03, 2005 11:52 AM (XCTK0)
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Who gives a shit about what the muslim community in England thinks. If they don't understand the danger they pose to the general community then move them to the middle east where they can be with their own.
ENGLAND SHOULD BE POPULATED BY THE ENGLISH. Just seems natural.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 07:52 PM (CBNGy)
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this has to be a joke or prank or something of that nature. Sorry here in the U.S.A. when they serve a warrant. they knock down the door and serve the warrant. what's next bible thumpers if i look at a woman the wrong way i am going to executed on a cross. liberals are definitely taking it to the exetreme. now its illegal to have a picture of jesus here because it offends some people. well damn your driving a yellow car i hate yellow that offends. this has got to stop.
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A Test and a Recommendation
This is the first test of a piece of software that may allow me to publish posts to multiple blogs at the same time, greatly simplifying my life. (In case anyone is interested, the software is called "
w.bloggar.")
And just so it's not a complete waste of electrons, watch out for Michael Yon's four-part series The Battle of Mosul, in which he will attempt to provide an unbiased and accurate picture of the struggle, and its potential for success. The first installment begins with Prelude.
Update: Just to update on the results of the test, it seems to work pretty well. You can only post simultaneously to multiple blogs if they're on the same server (account), but it's fairly easy to save the post and then reload it for posting to each account. I also sometimes get a message to the effect that posting has failed, when it hasn't, resulting in double posts.
I'm probably going to drop the reference to crossposting at the bottom from now on, because there are just too many of them. I'm currently posting to four blogs, including my own. Slightly dysfunctional, I know. But I'm waiting for my Pajamas Media offer (as is Jeff Goldstein, apparently).
(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia, Anticipatory Retaliation and The Jawa Report)
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I've been using w.bloggar for over two years, and pretty much dig it.
It sometimes has problems pinging correctly, but otherwise, as a lightweight editor/poster, it's hard to beat.
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Oh, and the customizeable function keys are darn handy. I
hate typing "<blockquote>" over and over.
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California Cows Pollute More Than Cars
(Sacramento, CA)
FUZZY SCIENCE ALERT! With the latest announcement from the California envirocracy, the price of milk is sure to go up.
From The Mercury-News:
Dairies are the No. 1 source of smog-producing pollution in the San Joaquin Valley, producing more than even cars and light trucks, according to a report released by air regulators.
The San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District, in a report released Monday, has determined that a cow annually emits 19.3 pounds of volatile organic compounds, the gases that contribute to smog. That is 50 percent more than currently thought, the report said.
At that new rate, dairies in the San Joaquin Valley produce more than 50 tons of VOCs a day, exceeding the amount released by cars and light trucks in the region by nearly 20 tons a day, district officials said.
If I believed that this is a good idea, which I don't, then I'd also believe that it surely was a wise act to slaughter all the hundreds of millions of bison that used to roam the Great Plains. Just think of the level of volatile organic compounds emanating from their exhaust pipes. And what about the massive herds of caribou in Canada? Or wildebeest in the Serengeti? Shouldn't they be slaughtered, or culled, or taxed?
The country of New Zealand instituted a similar nanny-state scheme to tax flatulence of livestock a couple years ago and it was met with vigorous opposition from the sheep herders. I think the idea was ultimately shelved or ameliorated.
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 02, 2005 04:57 PM (Z6yVb)
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Your tax dollars are being spent to broadcast Limbaugh over Armed Forces radio.
On his show, Limbaugh is calling civil affairs officers in Iraq "staff pukes."
Thus, he is insulting the troops, to their face, while they serve in Iraq.
All on your nickle.
Aren't you a little upset?
Posted by: Jimbo at August 02, 2005 05:38 PM (HFKAk)
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Is Harris Ranch in the San Joaquin Valley?
Posted by: Charles at August 02, 2005 09:16 PM (lQ1Or)
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Hundreds of millions of bison? Uh, no. Not by a long shot.
But if there actually had been literally hundreds of millions of bison roaming the great plains, it certainly would have been a good idea to kill them.
Posted by: nobody at August 02, 2005 11:43 PM (yWouT)
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I staying out of this one. 90% of cattle owners are republicans. Does this mean Bush causes farts? I always thought democrats were farts. In school they were the ones who farted in class without turning red in the face. Like they were proud to be heard.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 06, 2005 07:11 PM (CBNGy)
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NY Teacher and Backseat Boys
(Colonie, NY) Police caught English teacher, Sandra "Beth" Geisel, 42, in the back seat of a car steaming up the windows with one of her students. At 17, the student was able to consent to sex with an adult according to New York law, so no crime was committed. Nevertheless, Beth Geisel's employer deemed the behavior inappropriate and she was fired from her teaching position at Christian Brothers Academy.
Subsequently, another student, who is 16 and cannot legally consent, went to the police with his father to report that he, too, had sex with Geisel, on two separate occasions. As a result, Geisel has been charged with two counts of third-degree rape and two counts of endangering the welfare of a child.
Interestingly, Geisel has three sons and a daughter and is estranged from her husband, Thomas Geisel, the Regional President of KeyBank. So, the humiliation and embarrassment will be spread among a number of people.
More on Beth Geisel here.
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Time to give her her very own Scarlet Letter.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 02, 2005 04:18 PM (AWJYq)
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Thanks to the NEA and the AFT teachers have been getting better and better. When does the Fla girl go to trial on her "temporary insanity" (27 times?) defense. What about the one from KY or Tenn? And Sacto? Gosh ther are so many of these progressive teachers since the new Gov of Wash had Mary Landrau as an officer in her campaign last year.
Is the AFT still in the AFL or are they with the UFCW and the SEIU?
If only I had had teachers like this I would not have so much trouble keeping track of which unions are in which alliance.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 02, 2005 05:10 PM (Z6yVb)
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Any relation to Dr. Seuss?
Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at August 02, 2005 10:03 PM (ZAnEO)
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Rod, I fear you doth protest too much- it was the Christian Brothers Academy after all. Transference much?
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On 'The Road Through Syria to Jihad in Iraq' - And Elsewhere
Kevin Kohlman posts on a new guide published on the Internet, in which an alleged former resident of the Iraqi-Syrian border region has
explained in detail for potential foreign fighter recruits how they can enter Iraq and join in the jihad by traveling through neighboring Syria. According to "Al-Muhajir al-Islami", foreign jihadists should travel to the eastern Syrian city of Dayr al-Zawr: "it is recommended to enter the city using a car and do not carry large sums of money. If anyone asks, say you are here on a vacation and have come to go fishing in the Euphrates—therefore, bring some fishing equipment and another person with you so you won’t look suspicious." Recruits are also advised to avoid consulting government-sponsored Muslim clerics in local mosques and only to "approach the Salafist youths" outside of mosques and beyond the prying eyes of Syrian intelligence.
Iraq's interior minister, Bayan Jabr, recently told The Associated Press (if we can believe what they write as being even remotely accurate) in an exclusive interview that Iraq's neighbors — especially Syria and Jordan — must take stronger measures to stem the flow of militants and money for the insurgency from their territory into Iraq, and said he had pictures and addresses of insurgents in Syria. Notably, he said that, "It is not important to capture or not capture al-Zarqawi, the problem is not to let al-Zarqawi get more followers."
And just who are these followers Byan Jabar refers to and what drives them? The answer tells us much of what we're up against in the West, and how dangerous a threat an 'Islam gone amuck' can be!
Those "Salafist youths" referred to by the "alleged former resident of the Iraqi-Syrian border region" in Kevin's post, and others like them around the world, are younger followers of the same belief that drives Usama Bin Ladin and other Islamist terrorist leaders, a belief that draws upon a long tradition of extreme intolerance within one stream of Islam (a minority tradition but fastly becoming more mainstream), from at least Ibn Taimiyyah, through the founders of Wahhabism, through the Muslim Brotherhood, to Sayyid Qutb. Sayyid Qutb eschewed islah (reform) in favour of violent overthrowing of existing political systems, and it is this "political salafism" that has been adopted by terrorist groups and that the free world must defeat.
In its authoritative report on the tragedy of 11th September 2001, the the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States (the 9-11 Commission) summarises the threat from salafist(Islamist) terrorism in Chapter 12 at page 363 in these words:
(...) The catastrophic threat at this moment in history is more specific. It is the threat posed by Islamist terrorism—especially the al Qaeda network, its affiliates, and its ideology.
(...) That stream is motivated by religion and does not distinguish politics from religion, thus distorting both. It is further fed by grievances stressed by Bin Ladin and widely felt throughout the Muslim world—against the U.S. military presence in the Middle East, policies perceived as anti-Arab and anti-Muslim, and support of Israel. Bin Ladin and Islamist terrorists mean exactly what they say: to them America is the font of all evil, the “head of the snake,” and it must be converted or destroyed.
(...) It is not a position with which Americans can bargain or negotiate. With it there is no common ground — not even respect for life — on which to begin a dialogue. It can only be destroyed or utterly isolated (emphasis mine).
Just as with Iraq and expressed so appropriately by it's interior minister, Bayan Jabr, we in the West must stop the flow of potential terrorist into our countries, but we must also identify, kill or capture those already here, and remembering one of the few things that the 9/11 Commission got right, "that there can be no dialogue with these people, they can only be destroyed or utterly isolated," we have no options but to go after the Islamists, the followers of the perversion called Salifism, wherever they are, and capture or kill all of them and all of those that support them. We must bring a halt to right vs. left bickering, and get on the same train to securing the continuence of our civilization and culture.
As a post script, I borrow from the same chapter of the 9/11 Commission Report that the above excerpts are drawn from:
Tolerance, the rule of law, political and economic openness, the extension of greater opportunities to women—these cures must come from within Muslim societies themselves(emphasis mine). The United States must support such developments. But this process is likely to be measured in decades, not years. It is a process that will be violently opposed by Islamist terrorist organizations, both inside Muslim countries and in attacks on the United States and other Western nations. The United States finds itself caught up in a clash within a civilization.
To which I add, and also
a clash between civilizations. Thank you Islam, for bringing this dark deadly cloud to the face of our planet! (sic)
Sources and related reading:
Salafist (Islamist) Ideology
Saudi influences in the Netherlands. Links between the Salafist mission, radicalisation processes and Islamic terrorism.
Iraqi Insurgency Groups
9-11 Commission Report
"Islam, the West, and the World"
Muslim Brotherhood - Egypt
Other coverage - Security Watchtower
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Oh yeah some good reading there. Lots of info to cram into my tiny brain.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2005 03:46 PM (D3+20)
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If Tom Cruise isn't busy, maybe he can give then a primer on Scientology?
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Air America the saga continues
Michelle is on this story like white on rice. She's got the detail and the lowdown on the
latest about Air America's financial problems.So: by Franken's own admission, Air America's current owners have known for months that their network received a large cash infusion from Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club, a non-profit organization funded primarily by government grants. Presumably, they also knew that Gloria Wise's director of development at the time the money was transferred was also Air America's chairman at the time--a glaring conflict of interest.
Hey I've got real work to do Ladies and Gentlemen. That will be about it for Howie today. I'm sure you are all like so upset about that. See ya tomorrow for WTW. Because it takes some trash to know some trash.
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es effectivo contra la grassa
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2005 02:36 PM (D3+20)
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IÂ’m a little surprised that there isnÂ’t some kind of tax payer supported government program to keep Air Amerika up and running. If the liberals can make me pay to put a crucifix in a glass of pee on display as art, it seems like getting me to pay for FrankinÂ’s rant against all I value would be part of business as usual.
Does this network actually have to stand on itÂ’s own two feet as a profit center? Oh horror of horrors to the liberals. The checks have to clear, just like in my own home. Life is just too cruel and hard under Bush/Cheney.
I guess they had to steal from the kids, Bush made em do it.
Posted by: Brad at August 04, 2005 08:15 AM (pO1tP)
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"They" did not steal from children. That happens to be your characterization of Air America's financing issue. Surely, Air America will resolve these issues, correcting any and all improprieties, establishing proper and or monitoring any and all future financing efforts. That being said, we're back to the Neo Con-Men Republicans prancing around with full lip sticked mouths from which only lies and mis-information flow. Oh, 21 dead Marines dead this week, all due to the most serious lies of a President determined to earn his Republican bones through his unquestioned allegience to the Party's "daily talking points." While they died he lied and planned his vacation. Hmm, and you're out there slamming Air America. So desparate to have desent disappear, you along with your party of dysfunctional political lemmings can not fend off the facts Bush lied, you followed while others died!!!
Posted by: Roy at August 06, 2005 01:46 PM (ywZa8)
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Damn Roy: Are you ever full of shit. You need to apply for a job at the DNC. They desparately need moonbats who fail to see the nose on their faces.
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Russia bars U.S. ABC TV over Basayev interview
ABC comes to the abrupt realization they aren't in Kansas anymore.
MOSCOW, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Moscow is barring journalists from U.S. television channel ABC from working in Russia after the channel broadcast an interview with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev, the Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday.
Accreditations for ABC's reporters would not be renewed and, in the meantime, they would be banned from talking to Russian officials, it said.
Free speech advocates have repeatedly criticised President Vladimir Putin's government for restricting the Russian press, but this appeared to be the first action against a major Western media organisation.
"ABC is now unwelcome to contact any Russian state organisations or bodies," a Foreign Ministry statement said.
It said broadcasting the Basayev interview "was a clear case of helping to propagandise terrorism" and accreditations for ABC workers would "not be renewed".
A blow to free speech in Russia for sure but one can hardly keep from grinning and silently reflecting " it serves you right you bias ba$tards".
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Already been chewed news out of Russia. I agree now were will Russians look for entertainment. Thanks for the help rob.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2005 12:52 PM (D3+20)
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Yes, it may be a blow to Freedom of Press, but what about the Press's responsibilty? What would we think if a friendly foreign Media Agency broadcasted an interview with Osama?
More here ...
Posted by: Zoli at August 02, 2005 04:59 PM (zqDJ1)
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ABC acted irresponsibly; perhaps illegally. They deserved a response from the Russian government. What else could they expect? A government has cut off an irresponsible organization. News will still be reported in Russia. Just not by ABC. There is no justification for ABC to claim unfairness of any kind. ABC does not have a "right" to be irresponsible.
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Iran Iran Iran
It seems the
Brits are the target of the summer. Sketchy reports from Iran about the bombing of the BP and British Airways offices there. Some damage no reports of injury.
New leadership in Iran moves thumbs nose at international community including Russia who has offered to supply fuel to them for any power plant to ease international concerns that Iran is planning on making nukes. Well Iran if you donÂ’t want to make nukes then why the need to enrich your own fuel? Mr. Bolton, sick em. As long as we've got him might as well use him. I think he can be of help here See-Dubya. Really though Iran and Syria worry me.
According to Ali Aghamohammadi, the process will go on without delay. "The resumption is irreversible," he said.
"The political decision has been taken. We have handed over the letter to the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency)."
Yeah I know too many CNN links.
Palestine Palestine Palestine.
Yes I've been encouraged by events there this year. Well LGF has some info to kind of bring me back to earth.
Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia Wednesday said Israel’s planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip would eventually lead to its surrender of the Jews’ ancient capital – Jerusalem.
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Phil Hendrie, Welcome to the Blogosphere
Phil Hendrie has a blog? Yes, he does. No entries yet but let me be first to welcome
America's greatest talk radio host to the blogosphere. Before I was a South Park Conservative, I was a Phil Hendrie Libertarian. If you don't
get the Phil Hendrie show, then there's no way you'll
get The Jawa Report.
Maybe Mr. Hendrie will allow an occasional guest post by my colleague, Dr. Jeff Dowder, of Cal Tech?
Anyway, the vacation in Los Angeles is going great. I fly back to Red State America tomorrow. I'll sure miss the weather here. Most of all I'll miss talk radio. The only talk radio we have in my corner of America is NPR. Yeah, I know, pathetic.
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Did ya get to see the Cards whup up on the Dodgers the other day. Well they were leading 4 to 1 last I saw. Have a safe trip home. Maybe you'll get frisked by an undocumented muslim male in his 20's to make sure the babies' rattle does not contain nail clippers.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2005 12:09 PM (D3+20)
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Funniest Hendrie bit I ever heard was one where Margaret(?) was upset because two of the neighbor's male cats were gang-raping her female cat. Started out with screeching cat sounds, by the end of the hour the tomcats sounded like Barry White.
I haven't laughed that hard in years.
I hope he gets it up and running soon, I'll blogroll him in a second.
Posted by: a4g at August 02, 2005 12:51 PM (6qAma)
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You know you can get a couple of the socal talk radio stations on the net now, yeah? KFI for sure, and possibly KABC...
Posted by: KG at August 02, 2005 01:24 PM (s8D3V)
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I'd personally like regular postings from Bobby Dooley..
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Hands down, the funniest Hendrie bit I've heard was him as a Palestinian soliciting American parents who had terminally ill children to send them to Palestine for suicide bombing missions in exchange for $5000 (I think). The bit was awesome, he covered the morally twisted view of a Palestinian bomber recruiter and managed to piss off a WHOLE lot of people listening to the show.
"You know, but they are terminally ill, yes? So a bomb will be painless, and you will receive money to cover expenses for their treatment!" Good God, the calls he got on that day...
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