1 S-A-T-A-N-I-C bastards! Charlie Manson must be jealous as hell at the amount of support and funding these monsters get.

2 Chicken shit bastards. They still have their panties wrapped around their heads.

3 Where ARE these bastards committing these crimes? Another group besides Zarqawi's?

4 Oh I see, Mosul? Guess we're headed there after Fallujah?

5 Time to get down. Surround Mosul and send in the Kurds. The end. Oh Yea, send Kevin Sites in with them.

6 Mason et al! Taking seriously the 'political demands' of serial killers and other psycotics is a crime against their victims.

7 this makes me sick , my husband spent his first year in Iraq in Mosul, he even has pictures of being in the city. Those poor people, I hope we blow the bits out of each city till we get those sick bastards.........if some of these other coward countries would help, we could have enough forces to wipe out all the cities at once or clean them out.....

8 We put up a tent city, supply water, food social structures ie. school, medical etc. Advise families in Mosul to occupy a tent. Flatten Mosul.

9 Just send in the Kurds, no warnings, Nada . . Tell the Kurds that they can keep everything they capture . . . . It'll probably happen in less than 10 years anyway, so why put it off?

10 I am sceptical that this was the standard Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or Army of Ansar Al-Sunnah movement hit. The video was shot in a basement, not outside. Previous video's released by the above groups doing execution style shootings were done outside in the open. These guys were hiding from something, so it could a small group hiding in the PDK controlled territory trying to gain some notoriety. This could even be a rebel faction kurds from Barzani, Telebani, or a third party. PDK has been targetted before, and in most cases has carried out reprisals against those they think might have had anything to do with attacks.

11 We need to let the Kurds deal with this. I say we encircle the city cutting off ll escape routes and send in the Kurdish Militia. End of game. Let the Kurds kill all the Arabs they want, let them behead all the Arabs they want (on videotape of course), just let them go wild. With Falluja in our control and the Kurds once again in Mosul, where is Zarqawi going to go? He'll have no base of operations. He can't go to Iran. The people there hate Sunni Muslims. He would be be just a scared little man with no place to go and he'd lose his followers quickly.

12 I see they just caught some leader of the Sunni group?

13 I would like to underline that everyone here is talking so greatly about the Kurds. They are just as bad any of the terrorists out there. During the 90's Kurdish terrorists were your main money laundering, heroin / human trafficers, and illegal arms sellers in europe. Also not to forget the dozen or so US Armed Forces cryptologists / intel people they killed in the middle east ... but ofcourse they dont count since the Kurds are now rooting for DC.

14 Salamander could find something wrong with heaven.

15 There is no denying that these men who commit these heinous crimes are sick and twisted. If we had a media blackout on these events, once the arseholes realised that they weren't getting any attention, they would stop. However, flattening the city or mass murder is not an option, and should never be first on the list. "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth will lead to a blind and toothless world."-Martin Luther King.

16 You are dreaming. Just like Martin Luther King. did he get his dream? Nope just a bullet. Fanatics are fanatics.

17 death to north america

18 I THINK THOSE BAD GUYS NEED TO START BEING GOOD AND STOP DOING BAD THINGS. THAT WAY, THE BAD BEHAVIOR WOULD THEN STOP AND THE GOOD BEHAVIOR WOULD START. CUTTING HEADS OFF IS BAD. GIVING PEOPLE COMPLIMENTS ARE GOOD. MAYBE THE BAD GUYS ARE CONFUSED. ALLAH NEEDS TO TEACH THESE PEOPLE MANNERS.

19 i couldn't watch the killing movies because i would have to pay for it. my hard earned money is apparently not enough to witness the act of the evil to understand their mentalities. i had to ask my 9 year old son for some money and he called me a "poopie head"

20 Angel: Death to North America???? What the fuck is that all about??

21 Just another jealous little shit who can't get a green card.

22 i fuckin hate these raghead muthafuckas. if you guys are checkin out this website; all i want to say in plain, simple english is fuck you. im a marine and i served in iraq. my unit conducted numerous sorties and blew your muthafuckin sons up in smoke. i laughed alot when you guys would come out of your shithole and shoot at us every once in a while, until an a-10 up above blew your asses away. you guys are cowards and are no match, nor will you ever be a match for the u.s. military. i fuckin hate what you stand for and my military and country will straighten you up one way or another so beware and keep being a coward.

23 I mean honestly what the hell do any of you actually know about the situation in Iraq. All of you only know is what you see in the media and what is told to you. Your country started this war and are now dealing with the consequneces of occupation and policing the country. Honestly you guys suck at it, the British were much better at it than you were before shortly after the Second World War. Honestly the United States is being defeated in Iraq little by little until the American people just have enough and will demand the pull out. This occupation has costed the United States billions of dollars and look, how much have you really achieved? Nothing much. You won a morally shallow victory in Falluja. However everyday a Marine or Army soldier is killed from resistance attacks. The numbers of the death is way over 1,000 now, notice how the media quits telling you the numbers on the news. Also to the big dumb motherfucker Joel, yeah the soldier boy. Hey if you are so brave than why do you not go out and face them man to man, instead of calling on airstrikes to bomb the shit out of everything or hiding behind somthing or someone, the famous modern American tactic. Why not go and prove yourself, since we are just a bunch of panzies and cowards according to you. You fuckheads are the cowards. Never sending in a detachment of soliders until you bomb the shit out of it first when everything is dead then send them in your helicopter gunships, tanks, and F-16s that shoot accross the sky. The fact of the matter is Joel you are the one scared for your life and are the real coward. Also do not worry once you are in Iraq for a long time you will all start to get your thick head opened up to the truth. You will not have to worry about not seeing enough action in the future, because the American government is already building it's campagin against Iran, Syria, and North Korea on more bullshit excuses so white trash like yourselves will believe it. Anyway enjoy the height of the American Empire while it lasts. Also to everyone that reads this post, please go and see the film Ferinheight 9/11, even though none of you will. Omar Alansari JUSTICE AND REAL FREEDOM FOR IRAQ!!! JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!! ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!! ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!! ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!!

24 I cant wait to bre drafted. I would love to go to iraq and murder every man, women and child i see. I would murder babies infront of the mothers, sons infront of there fathers and so on. They are doing the same to us.

25 i want to know something

26 Amen Joel...those chicken fuck muslim's have no idea what is coming to them. The asshole's really think they have a cause..LMFAO...when will the world ever figure out that we american's want to be left alone... are kinda lazy..love to take care of our families... fuck..drink beer..and absolutely love a good fight. Anyone who is dumb enough to fly airplane's into our building's is gonna get fucking smoked !!! we don't kill enemie's of our country for patriotic reason's...we kill muslim's cuz it's easy and fun to do. Killing allah's holy warrior's and freedom fighter's is just plain good old fashioned fun. raghead's forget that allah and muhammid used to suck and ass fuck each other on a regular basis..this is why all muslim's are intimidated and afraid of all women..they have no idea what to do with them,except beat the hell out of them....guess what ragheads..that stupid shit doesn't work here..we could just send our wive's to go fuck you muslim's up..but we don't want to embarrass you asshole's too much..so we'll gladly put our beer's down for a moment to fuck you up...love...bryan fox..ex-UNITED STATES MARINE

27 Fuck!!! All I was trying to do this morning is to check out the news and what did I find, This motherfucking ansar al sunnah bunch of sicos killed over 20 of our brothers and sisters,beheading human beings as they go too. weirdest shit, I was ready to email them mutherfuckers, insted I ended up here. allah is a fucking murderer too. you know?? his teachings support blood shed of their own arab blood, that of their women, that of their own, weird satanic motherfuckers they are. You know, I never was for the occupation and I'm not american either, I hate bush, but the blood of the soldiers fighting a war we shouldn't even be fighting is precious, I'm with them and many times I wish I was there too, still I support the troops and want mosul flattened and that army of cowards, allah worshiping motherfuckers gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28 Hi all, first off I want to say that these mofo are sick bastards and they need to be dealt with as regadless of this war they would still be around doing what they do, we would just never hear about it. I just find a storey I read today regarding Blair's visit to the mideast and his idea of a conference and the response he received from...well here this "TONY Blair was yesterday forced to tone down his plans for an international Middle East peace summit in London, after Israel and the United States warned him not to "interfere". Not to interfere, what a crock of Texas Horse Shit, maybe BUSH should take his own fuking advice. Going into Iraq had nothing to do with the security of the US at all, Afgan... yes that was totally justified. I think maybe he just wanted to finish what daddy started and get the credit. To all US troops, I support you and it sadens me to see the amount of fallen commrades you are facing, but I think unless a country has a direct reason as 9/11 than they should stay the hell out of other countries and let those countries deal with their own problems. I sure the hell know for fact no US citizen would appreciate there homeland being occupied by someone wanting their oil. Gee imagine that Saddam taking over the Crawford Ranch from Bush, hell that would be interesting to say the least. Cheers out to the Troops.... and to you fuking pieces of shit insurgents, to kill anyone for any reason is disgusting, but someone who helped you and did nothing but give to your country like Margaret Hassan, you sick fuking coward's deserve to suffer and you will die. By the way a question, why do only men pray together etc... do you poke each others butt holes? Let me guess ALLAH THE GREATEST!!!! teaches you how to drop the soap in the shower too? FUK'D UP MOFO.

29 It's disgusting what's happening in Iraq. America is guilty of war crimes from day one by INVADING A COUNTRY that has not attacked us. For those who are outraged at the beheadings of innocents, maybe to have some credibility, express the same disgust and outrage when American F-16's bombs blow innocent civilians to smithereen. To date, over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed by the Americans. With liberators like that, who needs opressors. Americans need to snap out of their delusional funk and see this illegal war for what it is, A WAR CRIME. It's amazing how brainwashed Americans are to fall for another Vietnam type of deception by their leaders. Bush lied about WMD and connection to 9-11 and he should be impeached for starters and sent then sent to Guantanamo for GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMES!!! Americans should end the occupation of Iraq ASAP or else inherit a Gaza and West Bank quagmire!!

30 it makes me laugh out of sarcasm when i read comments like some above... people brainwashed by 'patriotism' and lack of political pragmatism... jeeeezzz i was 12 years old last time i thought it was cool to 'encircle cities' and sending gang raping death squad militias in to liberate the poor souls who really don't have much to do with the situation. When you feel powerless in your little shitty life and need a cause to justify your existence it's always comforting to have these uber power trips (and the hitlers these give rise to). When the US was creating muslim fundamentalism to fight their proxy war against russia in afghanistan i was a cheerleader. Then i grew up and realized that every country with a will to power is the same. Now classic blowback (the Muj) will bankrupt the US in Iraq as it did for russia. HAve you seen the currency drop? guess not cause the rest of the world is not important enough to be of noitice. Al-Zarkawi has been dead for a while (check out the declassified DIA memos - sorry to shatter your worldview), what we have is a convenient personification of popular and legitimate resistance against a foreign occupier. The guy is the new Emmanuel Goldstein (time to read 1984 if you didn't realize). He replaced bogey man Bin Laden which we can't mention too much cause he was supposed to be captured or dead a while back - not good p.r. so lets forget him. The majority of fighters aren't religously motivated, they are simply trying to save what is left of their country. I can imagine this happening in the US too and it would be legitimate. Another thing people need to realize is that these 'terrorists' aren't cowards. They are fighting superasymetrical warfare in the defense of their national autonomy. Throwing a boy in a boxing ring against ten 300 pound gorillas armed with brass knuckles and calling him a coward when he jumps the fence is really pathetic. Somewhat akin to the school yard toadies sucking up to the bullies. The war is lost, the economy is shit, the currency is devaluating like crazy (especially since the 're-election'), more oil producers are marking sales in Euros instead of US$ (one of the real reasons for invadin g iraq - and iran), petrol is running out but at least the internal propaganda is keeping people looking in the other way. 'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither' -- Ben Franklin (repeat 3 times each morning). Good Luck!

31 Many Muslims are complaining that non-Muslims associate Islam with violence, however, many Muslim web sites actively promote violence against non-Muslim religions. In my quest to understand Islam I have visited number of web sites promoting Islam and found that many articles on Muslim web site promote violence and non-acceptance of anyone else who holds a different political/religious view than the one thatÂ’s accepted by Muslims. There is no mention of tolerance of others and sharing/loving your neighbours. Is it then a wonder that some of those neighbours think that the death of over 120 000 Muslims in Indonesia has been brought by the Christian God a day after the birth of Jesus to punish the hate promoting Muslims for all the evil thing they have done during the last few years (terrorist action, beheadings, killing of children and so onÂ…)

32 We should tell the Sunni's that if they don't cut this insurgent crap out, we'll bail out and let Shia Iran have the place.

33 Instead of blaming the Americans, you should blame yourselves for not Standing up against the thugs who defame Islam. I lived in a peaceful Islamic country thou I m muslim. It is sad to see muslims not able to standup again these thugs, to make matter worse you support these thugs. NO WONDER YOUR COUNTRY IS IN A MESS. Hack the are far too many example of countries who get independence thru PEACEFUL means. Why dont you learned from these countries. And for ONCE. SHOW THE WORLD YOU REALLY TRULY BELIEVE ISLAM IS FOR THE "GOOD" OF THE HUMAN RACE. KILLING HUMAN ARE DEFINITELY NOT SHOW THIS RELIGION IS GOOD. BY THE WAY, Y DONT U STOP AND THINK. BY KILLING THE "BAD GUY", DOESN'T SHOW YOU TOO IS ANOTHER STUPID FUCKING BAD GUY? PUT YOUR BRAIN IN YOUR HEAD NOT YOUR ASS

34 what i want to know is, if all these arabs hate us so much - why are so many of the slimey thieving scum in our countries. why dont they fuck off back to the dark ages. i think how they treat their women sums up the greatness of their culture. all you fucking arabs should strap a bomb to yourselfs and blow up a mosque. your women crave white cock. kiss my ass allah

35 I'm a Desert Shield/Storm vet as well as having done support ops for Somolia and Bosnia. Infantry on the ground in Iraq, 1991. I saw civilians dead by the hundreds at that time and the media didn't report it. They were THERE with us, we had a white camera truck to pull security for and everything. Don't believe what the United States media tells you. They are tools of the government. I love to live in the US but those guys need to tell the truth or shut up. This one side of the argument news reporting is pathetic. The US people are also pathetically ill informed. Spouting what the media tells them is right. My dad watches Fox but not CNN and he's so right wing it's scary. My co-workers watch CNN but not Fox and it's exactly the opposite. And neither knows what's going on. I did notice a post, even here, that said that Iraq had something to do with the aircraft hitting the World Trade center. Really horrible act, that one. And Iraq had nothing to do with it. Remember this: Iraq has not sponsored and claimed a single terrorist attack on the United States, outside of their OWN country, since before the bombing of Libia by Reagan. Think about this, these groups are damned proud of the horrible things they do and Iraq didn't claim the 9/11 attack. I believe that 8 of the guys that took the planes were from our allies in Saudi Arabia, as a matter of fact. Just like this Bin Laden fellow, also a Saudi. The media is repeating the things that the government wants you to believe, but are fundamentally unproven, and for the most part untrue. They feel that if they repeat it enough, you'll believe it. Iraq did not attack US interests or assets. Even the Kuwait thing that I was there to help out with had nothing to do with us. The Iraqis seem to be the ones that want to be left alone. That's my opinion. Take it, leave it, debate it, but don't flame it. Thank you.

36 First of all, would those of you crying foul at America's "war crimes" and comparing them to insurgent groups beheading people please shut your absolutely idiotic mouths? You know full well that the comparison is completely unjustified. Don't insult others' intelligence by attempting to pass it off as some sort of thought-provoking point. It's stupid. By making the claim you are essentially suggesting that the insurgency are every-day Iraqis who simply want to fight the occupation. That is incorrect. The insurgency DOES hire some every-day iraqis to do their dirty work by exploiting unemployed, easily brainwashed civilians. The majority of the insurgents are pathetic, hypocritical pieces of inhumane shit who have only a POLITICAL agenda. They claim that Iraqi candidates are demi-gods, yet they have taken it upon themselves to decide what Iraqi civilians are and are not allowed to do. They kill their arab brothers and sisters without scruple because, in the end, they could give one shit about the Iraqi people. They fear democracy in the middle east because it would diffuse their power and their ability to hypnotize young arabs and send them off to blow themselves up for no good reason. The real point here is that the vast majority of Iraqis as well as muslims from other nations are disgusted at what these groups are doing. THAT is what is important. One thing I will never get over is how the anti-war crowd INCESSANTLY makes it their responsibility to speak FOR the Iraqi people. Who the hell are you? Of course many Iraqis would prefer to rebuild their country without the coalition, but pragmatically speaking this, at this exact point in time, is an impossibility. Do you fuckheads think the Iraqis are stupid? That they don't realize the aim of the insurgency to MAINTAIN chaos and death in the country, no matter who is being killed? Do you think that they believe for one second the insurgents want what's best for Iraq? Do you think they are unaware that all this is an attempt to start a civil war? Zarqawi has even said HIMSELF that one of their goals is to start secterian fighting. ANd yet here you are, speaking on behalf of the Iraqis like they are children who need to be protected from big bully America. The insurgents spit on fellow arabs just to push their agenda because they have come to realize that fighting the Americans will never bear fruit. They have to scare Iraqis into fighting with them or staying away from helping to rebuild their country by showing these despicable acts in which they, WILLINGLY and KNOWINGLY with what I loosely term a "clear conscience" behead people while they are still alive. Yes, the coalition has killed civilians. But did they go out LOOKING for civilians to kill? Don't be so absolutely ignorant. I am a Russian who spits back at these sub-human, bitter, worthless scum. Their actions prove that THEY are the demi-gods, bent on creating states which they can rule with an iron fist while falsely using their religion to support their actions. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. Liars, and they befoul Islam the way Christian fundmanetalists do when they blow up abortion clinics. I hope that on the day of judgement they are sent to a place where they are beheaded then brought back to life and beheaded again over and over. That is all they deserve.

37 u fucking stupid bacon red neck fucking dopey american cunt im iraqi i fucked u cunts in iraq with my ak u pussy americans soon as u here ak fire u duk an hide u bastards will burn every ambush wil fuck u in the ass u fuckin shit wankers im going back. u mother fucker i will fuck all u american boys in the ass i will cut your heads off like sheep u fucking dirty amrericans bacon red smelly sweaty cunt you all fat u fat fuckers u fat jew fuckers i will go to my country july 17. u fuckers i cant wait to fuck u americans in the ass you will all die i cant wait to shoot u fucking americans pigs u will all die i swaer u will all die

38 I'm living in VN . I'm realy shocked by all the Muslim doing in Iraq,Indonesia,Thailand . Bombing,beheading,executing... are making the Muslim's visage to look dirty to all mankind . They even killed the one who support their children , their people .. Magaret Hassan . I always want to vomit when seeing a Muslim in Viet nam . If I were the Prime Minister I would wipe out all the fucking Muslim out of my country .

39 when i get zarqawi...and skin him alive who do i send his worthless hid to...and should i have his skin tanned first

40 hey kaka...i am going to skin you alive next...what do you want me to do with your worthless carcass...i am going to make a toilet seat out of your skin...

41 long life israel fuck all arabs in the world

42 Hate them or love them, Muslims were here befor America and they will surely outlast the Americans in thus crucial time, we have been tested so many times and with help of the creator we came through. But to these who are negative towards muslims, I will suggest u do ur home work b4 u jump to the conclusion. YES we do have criminals just like any other society but we also have dicent people and that is the way it's in every religion or community. To suggest that a man who's fending an enemy who has invaded his country is a 'terrorist' and 'thugs' and is beleieved as much people as in the western world is unheard in the history of war fare. absouletly unbelievable. wake up people and find the real cause of this war NOT the calculated briefing from the white house, remember 'first casualty of war is the truth' wasn't said by Arab or muslim but an American. And remember it ain't over till the fat lady sings Mohamed

43 No Bullet No Pray, will stop me destroying the Islamic Forces of Iraq. Good Luck and God Bless you all.

44 i am american, do i think americans should be in iraq.....NO!! but do i think that muslims have the right to kill people for the fun of it...NO!! the american military will no fail in iraq......there isnt enough "freedom fighters" (aka scared bithes who hide behind masks!!!) the thing thats funny is if these coward masked bitches just stop fighting then it would be that much easier for them to demand america to get out.....which they probably would have to do with international pressure!! but there just crazy fucks who have sex with there goats and like killing innocent people!!! SO TO SUM UP...THESE DUMB FUCKS ARE JUST THAT...DUMB FUCKS WITH NO HOPE TO WIN AND ARE USING RELIGION AS THERE REASON FOR BEING DUMB FUCKS....lil do they know there religion is just as stupid and fucked up as christianity and any other lame religion!! so allah mcbeal fuckbar to all of you and start acting like human beings and not the dumb fucks that you are!!! I HATE BUSH AND THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!!!! SO FUCK YOU!!

45 I dont agree with the war at all and think that american and british troops should never have been drafted in to fight a battle many miles from our own homelands. I also think that the muslims are commiting a breach of the Geniva rules and they should all get hunted down and get tried for thier crimes. Why are the people who are getting executed doing at those places at the time of abduction anyway because i would be beside the soldier with the biggest gun not walking around the middle of nowhere with an invisable sign saying "i'm white come and take me hostage and cut of my fucking head" so would it not just be sensible to bring home all the troops and let the iraqies blow there selfs and country men up except for us or even better give bush and blair a gun each and drop them of in the middle of baghdad.

46 fuck dude.... " FIRE ZE MISSILES!!!, but im tired... OK TAKE A NAP AND THEN FIRE THE MISSILES!!!" "W-T-F MATES"

47 Brits and Yanks again invading a foreign land but nothing ever changes, CUNTS!! But not that im excusing those mad dune coon, jehad yelling bastards.

48 Bombs are going off in London. Blair is reaping what he has sown. He and Bush and their empire building have brought this about. They deserve it.

49 WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP! Look at you. I mean fucking LOOK at you. You're all as bad as each other. You fat complacent greedy American fucks with your casual violence breathtaking ignorance, ridiculous superstitions, hypocrisy and total lack of common decency. And you too you stupid ragheads with YOUR casual violence breathtaking ignorance, ridiculous superstitions, hypocrisy and total lack of common decency. Can't you see THAT YOU'RE ALL BEING FUCKING USED you stupid tools. All that shit they fed into you back when you were growing up HAS FUCKED YOU UP IN THE HEAD REAL BAD. Why don't you wake the fuck up to what life is all about and try and get along with each other. Now you redneck american fuckwits go and stand in that corner over there. Make up a little dance or something else useful. And DON'T touch the ragheads' oil. You've got your own toys. And you ragheads go and stand in that corner. And no don't stuff your thick woolly skulls back into the sand and expect fucking allah to solve all your problems. Why the fuck do you think he gave you a goddam brain for fucks sake? OK? Now get out of my sight all of you you're giving me a headache the size of your mother's cunt the day she discharged your brainless valueless mass onto this planet. Go on just fuck off. Twats

50 Oi You Fuckers, you have nothing else good in your lives than criticise other peoples faiths do you!!!!!!!! you all american soilders can kiss our muslims butt's and go and suck your mamas pussies.... and the world allah in english is GOD,,,, WHICH MANY OF YOU BELIEVE IN YOU FUCKS!!!!!!!!!! AND SUCK MY DICK

51 Oi You Fuckers, you have nothing else good in your lives than criticise other peoples faiths do you!!!!!!!! you all american soilders can kiss our muslims butt's and go and suck your mamas pussies.... and the word allah in english is GOD,,,, WHICH MANY OF YOU BELIEVE IN YOU FUCKS!!!!!!!!!! AND SUCK MY DICK

52 why do we do the things we do to one anather? thats what we should be askinging one anather, why is the question? why do it for oil or other personal interests. god is god and we all believe in him in one way or anather so this is not some fucking religious war so please those of you who believe it is well hopefully god will dammed you, or he already has. so just shut the fuck up PLEASE! i'm muslem and i'm not killing anyone and as for those muslems that are killing well the know thier place after death and thats in that tropical place we all love for bastereds/harramy's with there god that fucking bastered of all bastereds satas/shytan! it's not the iraqies killings the international peace keepers(not just americans) remember that mutha fuckas its not just you its everyone there so do not think your the world cause your just rejects like all of us. remember where you came from before you think you think your all mighty and all that. its the world, people of the world that made the home of the free and the brave and all that shit. just a reminder. sorry i'm expressing all this anger, i'm american but that fucking marine wrote that MY COUNTRY AND MY ARMY AND MARINES WILL TEACH YOU,(WHOS BEEN TEACHING WHO SO FAR MUTHA FUCKA) ANSWER THAT??????????? THE IRAQIES WANT PEACE ITS THIER NEIGHBORS THAT WANT THIS WAR, MAYBE WE ARE DOING THIS THE WRONG AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO SEE WHO OUR REAL EMENIES REALLY ARE PAKISTAN! SO BEFORE ANYONE SPEAKS HE SHOULD KNOW WHAT HE'S SAYING AND RUSH INTO IT LIKE THE JOKE OF A PRESIDENT WE HAVE THAT FUCKING SMELLY DRIED UP BUSH. JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT OTHER PROBLEMS HE WILL CAUSE OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND OUR HOME THIS WORLD. DEATH TO THE STINKING BUSH AND HIS CURPT GOVERMENT. WE NEED A NEW ORDER AND BETTER RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD THAT AMERICA AMERICA OUR GREAT NATION( AND IT NOT YOUR COUNTRY YOU BRAIN DEAD MARINE ITS OURS

53 Holy shitzky.

54 I would love to be able to read a concise intelligent argument on here instead of just being bombarded by insults and name calling over and over. Most of you who commented here are guilty of generalizations and believing in stereotypes. Not all Muslims believe in violence. Not all Americans support the war. Not all Americans who do support the war are inbred rednecks. Saying that you want to "encircle the city and kill everyone in it" is ludacrous. You're no better than the terrorists. Indiscriminate killing based on religion or nationality is the reason that we're ALL in this mess in the first place. You wonder why the people of this world don't get along! Has anyone on here actually made an argument? Anyone? Try having an intelligent discussion instead of calling each other names. The way some of you have been typing, I hope you're lying when you say you're American, because that would mean that English is your primary language and you can't even speak or spell properly. Some of you just can't be American, but if you really are, stop surfing the internet and calling people names like a 12 year old, and go try to read a book. If you're that ignorant, you shouldn't be speaking. At least use a spellchecker. We can't pull out of Iraq now or the people of Iraq will suffer. Regardless of whether or not you believe in the reason for going in the first place, you have to admit that we need to finish the job. For the record, majority of the insurgents are not Iraqi, they're Iranian, Syrian, and Saudi. Most of the Iraqi insurgents were killed, captured, or driven out long ago. And to "Jake at December 26, 2004": Saying that our troops are "gang raping death squad militias" is an insult to every man and woman who has ever served in our military. You should be embarrassed that you're so ignorant as to make such a statement, and you should be thanking your lucky stars that men have served this country for over 200 years otherwise you wouldn't be here today screaming misspelled insults into a website. For those of you who don't agree with this war, stop bad mouthing all of our troops. Don't let the homicidal comments (fucko at March 29, 2005) of a few change your perception of our servicemen. Most are strong and decent men. On the same note, to our servicemen who post such things on websites like this( joel at December 6, 2004) , please stop. You're not helping yourselves at all; you're making the situation worse. Everyone needs to just do some research and learn a little before jumping to the offense and screaming at people on a website. The American media is tilted one way or the other, so read and watch numerous media outlets. Talk to others, and try to learn on your own. Then maybe you can make an intelligent argument.

55 Whew! Some pretty heated stuff. Impatient Girl, I appreciat your call for civil discussion. You want a logical argument? Rewind a little: After the repeated warnings to stop gaming the UN inspectors, the US(& help) went in and toppled Saddam while deliberately making sure virtually no damage to the infrastructure in Iraq. The US wanted out of there ASAP, but the Baathists had to start bombings and retribution to prevent a Gov't from getting set up. And the Iraqi public let in the foreign killers, never helping to stop their "insurgency". This has just kept the Americans there longer. <

Posted by: Yoda at August 14, 2005 08:06 PM (ywZa8)

56 I can't agree with the "all Muslims believe in violence" statement. You can't lump that many people under any one label. The last stat that I heard, the majority religion in the world was Islam. You can't tell me that all those people, are all terrorists or harboring a terrorist. I'm sure a hell of a lot of them are, but not the majority of them. As far as their religion meaning terrorism and violence now, one could argue that about Christianity throughout history too. Remember the crusades and the involuntary conversion of people throughout the world? What about the extremist Christians that kill abortion doctors and blow up clinics? How would you feel if you were grouped in with those killers simply because you were Christian? Although there are Muslim neighborhoods all over the US and Britain, that does not mean that even if someone knows a terrorist, that they know that they're a terrorist.

Posted by: Impatient Girl at August 15, 2005 12:05 AM (w+3Bs)

57 Oh, and as far as moderates not turning terrorists in, you have no way of knowing anything about that. There are Iraqis that turn insurgents in all the time. Talk to some troops, listen to their stories. You also have no way of knowing who tips off the authorites every day, or who works with them on a daily basis working to gather intelligence.

Posted by: Impatient Girl at August 15, 2005 12:20 AM (w+3Bs)

58 Impatient Girl: I believe the key to your statement is: "Christianity throughout history too" So I assume you believe we need to rewind to 1095 in order to be compared to Muslim terror in 2005? why not, I mean it's only 910 year difference, the thing about Islam is it's goals have not changed in 910 years, it's still pushing towards the Global Caliphate, with everyone converted to Islam, by force or otherwise. Perhaps you'd be "impatient" living under a Islamic state like the Taliban state in Afghanistan, perhaps you'd be happy to be treated like a sack of meat under that Islamic regime eh? can we begin to compare the instances of Christian attacks against the number of attacks performed by Muslim extremists since 1970 side by side? I mean it shouldn't be too different right? How about the radicals that are in both the U.S / U.K why are they not expelled from mosques, or become leaders of empty mosques? I believe the quote about tolerance at the top of the the Jawa banner applies there.

Posted by: dave at August 15, 2005 09:41 AM (DO6vD)

59 This still doesn't beat the Crips/Bloods thread from last December.

Posted by: Venom at August 15, 2005 10:33 AM (dbxVM)

60 The point that I was making, was that what Yoda was saying about all Muslims, would be like saying the same thing about Christianity, to point out how ludicrous his generalization was. I personally do not agree with Islam, or with their treatment of women. I never said nor implied that I did. I just think its ignorant to group so many people under one generalization. It is truly ridiculous to think that every single one (or even a majority) of the 1.2 billion Muslims in this world is a terrorist, or a terrorist supporter or sympathizer. If they all were, we'd be in the middle of a much bigger, global war. The whole point was that they are Extremeists, as in "extreme point of view" aka "not mainstream".

Posted by: Impatient Girl at August 15, 2005 08:38 PM (w+3Bs)

61 It isn't a generalization when the Quran preaches hate and calls for violence against Christians and Jews alike. I think the main point is that the religion has not been re-interpreted in modern times, and as such it is still a religion based on misogynic, xenophonic teachings, that ultimately preach violence as a method to cleanse "infidels" i.e You, and I. So are these "moderate" Muslims reading the same book? because it's pretty clear what the "prophet" and his fever dream messages from "Allah" mean? In order to enforce the idea of moderate Muslims, they need to tell CAIR to take their fake Fatwa's off the air and put proper Fatwa's against terrorism, and instead of listening to radicals preach in Mosque's turn them in. It's very simple.

Posted by: dave at August 15, 2005 11:03 PM (DO6vD)

62 Thanks for responding, Impatient Girl. No, of course not every single Muslim believes in violence and terrorism. But the COMMUNITY has sanctioned this scourge which has done nothing but grow since the Acquili Laurel (sp?) murder of the old Jewish man in 197x?. (go watch Rudy Guliani's speech from the Republican Convention in 2004 if you need the history refresher). It's grown unrelenting and the Muslim COMMUNITY has done nothing but hide the killers and put forward bullsh__ claims that they're "peaceful". Nope. It's the results that count and if "they" didn't endorse it, they wouldn't have let the DEFINITION of their religion be murder and hate. If the Muslim faith wanted this stopped, it would have been stopped. I'm glad that you see the Crusades for what they were: a 10th century version of exactly this play by "radical" Islam. The point is that Christianity DID learn from this, and has embedded the conviction that it's wrong, and a mistake (it's a mistake because it won't work -the terrorists will only cause the free world to rise up and shut down their cause). I'm astonished at how so many "liberal" thinkers rationalize what these killers are doing. If I even SAID things about women that these guys do, you and Jane Fonda would settle for nothing short of my head on a stick. But since it's built into their value system to murder, maim, and deprive women, well 'that's their culture'. Go look up what happened to Vincent vanGogh's great grandson in Holland. He was butchered in public for making a film that criticizes the way Muslim women are treated. So why is all of this taking place? I'll cut to the chase: The terrorists are an endorsed group of lead soldiers in a holy war that the Muslim world is choosing to start. It is part of the process that their religion specifies out as how to bring the worthy ones to heaven -to come back to the holy land (Saudi Arabia) as conquerers, and that killing ANYONE you have to to do it is REQUIRED. The only thing is, it won't work because the modern world messed things up: a country was formed that has discovered why the world is better when peace and diversity is savored, even if they occasionally have to crush some evil bastards who can only hate. This country (USA) has no intention of rolling over dead for them, and to make matters worse, MOST of the citizens aren't fooled by the dumb ploys meant to mask the killers' (OR their sponsors!) true objectives. I'm not a zealot or super right wing freak. I'm just telling it like it is. The only real question is how many people have to die first before even the slower ones among us will say "enough". If that is NOT what the Muslim world wants, and if they really DO want a world that lives together in peace -and makes accomplishments by refusing to destroy everything they see, is all they have to do is reign in their rabid cousins. Until then, they are complicit in what's being done.

Posted by: Yoda at August 16, 2005 05:04 AM (6krEN)

63 I also want to answer your question about Christian extremists that kill abortion doctors. Did you get the feeling that our society, and the Christian citizens in the US endorsed THESE murders? Did they hide them and protect them? Did they set up a bunch of stupid, doublespeak announcements that proclaim they're against them but then go enable more of that?? Same questions apply to how our society treats cross-burning and other crimes of hate. If you don't think that our Gov't, and our citizens suppress that quickly and strongly then I won't be able to convince you of anything. I think your raising of that particular issue is a great example to examine, and that it emphasizes my points excellently. The USA clearly established long ago that even in a free country, freedom of speech doesn't extend to hate. And we ACTIVELY clip that stuff off whenever we see it. (And just like the Crusades point: yep, the US had it's own moments of shame (slavery), but clearly has learned from it and takes real action to PREVENT and stop it when extremists decide to act on their hate). OBTW: even if we hadn't, and even if we're not "done", that wouldn't excuse what's been going on in the Muslim world for 30+ years now. So, as points of argument, these examples don't wash unless we're doing it now or failing to act on it.

Posted by: Yoda at August 16, 2005 05:43 AM (6krEN)

64 "one love....one heart lets get together and feeeeel alright" Robert Nesta Marley- r.i.p

Posted by: ian at August 16, 2005 05:26 PM (aIRUY)

65 I would agree that a lot of Muslims are helping and endorsing. I remember all those assholes cheering on 9/11. I'm just sick and tired of all these people screaming "ALL". As far as the writings of the koran, I'm sure a lot do believe in the holy war ideology, but I'm also sure that some dismiss it as "old school" as well. That's how I feel about the "obey your husband" parts of the Bible. I don't feel its necessary to go out an missionary around the world trying to convert others to Christianity, but I know that some do. I don't see why you think that every person who considers themselves Muslim, believes in the violence. I have heard stories of people being throw out of mosques and reported for their radical views. Sadly enough, more leave voluntarily and join together at other radical mosques that go unnoticed. Too bad we can't get a spy into every US and UK mosque...that would be nice.

Posted by: Impatient Girl at August 16, 2005 06:46 PM (w+3Bs)

66 no need to be sneaky and have a spy, seeing as the uk and us are both christian countries we should treat mosques as churches and have them open to all who want to enter, that includes white woman. clerics should be vetted and require a license to preach their guest religion on christian ground. that goes for jews, sikh's, and anyone else to. maybe then there will be less mistrust of what goes on inside a mosque. if any immigrent has a problem with that they should go back where they came from to worship allah on his holy ground not the ground men have fought and died to keep democratic and christian. the muslims have turned up to the dinner party,pissed in the wine and are laughing watching us drink it. im an atheist by the way so no god will save me. im far from racist anyway its not a race issue its about tolerance and its wrong to let the most intolerent religion of them all have so much free space to indoctrinate people with hate for the country they live in. the illuminati could stop it all any time they like really but of course they also like to see citizens live in fear and begging for tighter security.

Posted by: ian at August 17, 2005 03:49 AM (aIRUY)

67 god you yanks really do view yourseves as "team america world police" dont ya? lol. i think you should clean up your own country before trying to run the rest of the world......your not the only nation that hates to see the world spiral out of control, but your always the first to rush in. fair enough us British will always stand by you because we we feel more of an affinity with you than we do with the french or german cowards. i can just see why the rest of the world see you as being gung-ho and always spoiling for a fight. theres a real blood lust in hollywood and other media that is brain washing uncle sam into being a bloodthirsty little creep. dont you think your better than that sam? i do. you just forgot it....im not saying its different in britain because whatever happens in american society always filters through to the uk soon after. how many years were the states funding and training the i.r.a? now you see what its like to be on the recieving end of terrorism you change your tune quicksmart.....gee thanks!

Posted by: ian at August 17, 2005 04:17 AM (aIRUY)

68 oh and as for palestine i say free it. Israel are the invaders there and any country that fires rubber bullets at kids throwing stones is low in my view. its only Jewish money and power in america thats kept the israelis there anyway. just as the c.i.a sold the afghani narcotics to fund the training and arming of the beasts that bit their hand. what america and the world needs is a u.s president who isnt a freaking mason and who doesnt worship satan. type "Bachelor Grove" into Google.

Posted by: i at August 17, 2005 04:38 AM (aIRUY)

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