Paul at Wizbang catches the NY Times making up quotes.

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UPDATE 11/16: Margaret Hassan has been executed on video. Check this post for 11/16 update or go to MAIN PAGE for news, links to video, and images of hostages in Iraq.

This is eerily reminiscent of Kenneth Bigley's ordeal. Now the terrorists are demanding that the British must not move troops into Central Iraq, as Tony Blair pledged to do just yesterday. Earlier I had speculated that Hassan would be released unharmed. Today, I am not so sure. ABC News:

Margaret Hassan, the kidnapped director of CARE International in Iraq, appeared on a videotape aired Friday, weeping and pleading with British Prime Minister Tony Blair to withdraw troops from Iraq "and not bring them to Baghdad" because "this might be my last hours."

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1 This is really getting out of countrol. Especially when they behead her (the first female) because right now all she is> Is a victim to be. Like anyone else who becomes a hostage with a video now a days

Posted by: IraQ at October 22, 2004 12:25 PM (22t5y)

2 Is there any doubt that the people that would do something like this need to die a horrible, prolonged, painful death? I am thinking maybe peeling them like an onion while being anally violated would be an appropriate way to handle this. Anyone willing to run planes into buildings and kidnap & behead people are willing to die to kill us and all of the people that believe in freedom and liberty. Freedom is on the march, and I will be very glad to see these assholes trampled underneath those of us marching.

Posted by: Dave Bowman at October 22, 2004 12:30 PM (GY2aj)

3 An own goal for the terrorists whatever they do to her. Such an own goal the conspiracy theorists will say it's a set up, whatever they do with her. Taking an Iraqi who just so happens to be born in Ireland will mean fuck all to Blair. The IRA were more worrisome. To be honest the more i read, the more i see, the more i notice how pathetic a fight these people put up. Ain't the muslims supposed to spread the word of Allah? Well the word is spreading and people ain't liking what they hear.

Posted by: qpr jon at October 22, 2004 12:38 PM (jf0wV)

4 Somewhere I read - maybe here? where there was a bounty on any head that was working for the coalition and for the govt of Iraq and others including humanitarian workers (NEIN) that they are open to kidnappings and beheadings; that everyone is at risk. Someone dropped fliers all over the place and gave so much money to the type of people to be kidnapped. I believe the highest price was $100,000. A way for Zarqawi to get the people involved in kidnapping top foreign aid and business as well as coalition troops. very bad ~Cindy sorry have not been around - been very ill, Rusty.

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 22, 2004 02:14 PM (D39Vm)

5 I hope this is the final straw for the Iraqi people who know this woman to be a friend. I pray she is delivered alive and well. If not, I hope that every Iraqi alive turns on these terrorists and marches them straight into some instant street justice.

Posted by: Gordon at October 22, 2004 02:14 PM (dEFhD)

6 MR BLAIR SHOULD SHUT UP. The psychology of ransom negotiation is simple but brutal. You are far more likely to retrieve intact an object of little worth than golden treasure. And for her kidnappers that is exactly what Mrs Hassan is-an object, a piece of merchandise to be paraded via satellite TV to bid up the price while they wait around for the anguished offers to roll in. Like Kenneth Bigley, Mrs Hassan has fallen beyond our Western power. Her fate will be determined by her kidnappers whose agenda, monetary gain or political blackmail, remains unclear. From the moment of his capture Mr Bigley was a dead man walking. Kidnappers who behead their captives on camera and upload their bloody handi-work on to the internet are not going to be swayed by earnest statements in the House of Commons. From start to finish, Mr Bigley's protracted murder by his kidnapper. al-Zarqawi, was a sadistic torment. It served al-Zarqawi's twisted aim of spreading terror, and exaggerated his limited power. We should not repeat the mistake. But this prime ministerial gagging order should not prevent secret efforts to free Mrs Hassan. The last best hope of saving her is silence and discreet diplomacy.

Posted by: Will at October 22, 2004 03:19 PM (JsrrN)

7 WhatÂ’s this? TheyÂ’re doing women now? WhatÂ’s next, a child? How far will these monsters go? I have said it in past postings, they've already gone too far and the US has been too lenient. It is time for harsh action. If indeed these bastards are hiding in Fallujah as they are thought to be, nuke the effing place and send everyone were they want to go anyway (allah) sooner than later. Send the message that Iran is next and to all other American hating camel jockeys down there, that we mean business and we will not jeoperdize our freedom and security to these rats. Folks do not fool yourselves, if these guys had a nuke, or the power that the US possesses, theyÂ’d use it on with the same consideration given to ants and everybody in the region would be in the streets dancing. This is what scares the shite out of me. I pray for Mrs Hassan as I did for Mr. Bigley, Hensley, Armstrong etc etc and for the future victims because this ain't going to stop here.

Posted by: expat at October 22, 2004 04:42 PM (rN9VM)

8 EXPAT, you're right. These people are savages...what do the anti-war spewers think now? Do they still think that these bastards are doing to get revenge when it's their own fucking people they're killing? People who are there to HELP them and aren't even remotely involved in this invasion???? Whatever the initial reasons were, we need to completely obliterate the place (after we get the US and UK troops out first). To each his own. Let each country take care of their own asses. I'm tired of our country coming to everyone's aid. What good is it doing? It's getting worse....get rid of them now.

Posted by: Laura at October 22, 2004 06:44 PM (ptOpl)

9 Rusty, is there a hostage video out of Margaret yet?

Posted by: Laura at October 22, 2004 06:51 PM (ptOpl)

10 Never mind, I found it, but when I mentioned its source, the blog would not accept my post! Hint: it's on that grisly site where most of the beheading videos and other gorish scenes are.

Posted by: Laura at October 22, 2004 06:56 PM (ptOpl)

11 I hate to say it but, if they kill her, it will just fall in behind those poor kids that were killed by the Chechnyan murderers. Honestly, it wouldn't shock me in the least.

Posted by: dick at October 22, 2004 07:32 PM (hu9UN)

12 Maybe the lesson is we shouldn't CARE. They don't. The Iraqi people could stop this if they cared. Still waiting for the world to get pissed off. Or is the jealous world more interested in defaming America than helping this woman?

Posted by: greyrooster at October 23, 2004 12:41 AM (CBNGy)

13 WILL: It's not Blair's fault. If he doesn't say or do anything the fault finders will still blame him. If not him, then Bush, or Cheney or the guy down the street. Only the Iraqi people can save this women. They need to get out in the streets and holler for an end to this beheading bullshit. Only then will the cowards stop. They can get into the streets to protest everything the government or coalition does. Why can't they get into the streets to protest these horrible, cowardly beheadings? Or do they give a shit? I'm beginning to believe the latter.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 23, 2004 12:53 AM (CBNGy)

14 Aljazeera is aiding the terrorists by accepting these horrible videos and appeasing them by showing them. Aljazeera should be hunted down and gotten rid of as well. As long as these videos are shown around the country and on the internet, the terrorists will have succeeded. I wonder why the iraqi's aren't standing up for their own asses and protesting these beheadings, esp. since they are sawing off the heads of their own people? Are they that illiterate that they cannot pick up a gun or bomb themselves and go after the insurgents? I don't think they give a shit either. All the more reason for us to pull out of there and either flatten them or just leave them to work out their own mess.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 10:54 AM (ptOpl)

15 Once a peacenik or two is killed by these animals, the peaceniks won't be peaceful any longer. Food for thought, but this also shows what a bunch of homos allah worshipers are.

Posted by: Andre at October 23, 2004 11:06 AM (hD5mx)

16 Laura, it doesn't appease them it pisses me off to the point of fury to see those videos.

Posted by: Andre at October 23, 2004 11:14 AM (hD5mx)

17 That's what I mean! The terrorists WANT to cause a stir in the western civilizations...if we don't react publicly at how horrible these crimes are(and they are, I'm not arguing about that) then maybe they will see that it doesn't affect us(it does, but we don't need to publicly have an outcry about it). When they see that their means of terror doesn't upset us, and we keep this shit off the internet and the media, then they'll see that what they're doing is not going to sway us into giving into them. Hope that made sense.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 02:40 PM (ptOpl)

18 All the bleeding heart libs and anti-war nuts can go bitch to their governments if they think the invasion was illegal. Poor Bush, he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. Iraq posed a definite threat, hence, Saddam...okay, we got him. Does this mean that he didn't instruct his followers as to where the WMD's are and tell his cohorts to carry on in his absence? I have a horrible feeling about all this...do the peaceniks think for one minute that if we didn't invade Iraq, that it would've been just a matter of time till they attacked us like on 9/11? We may have not even been around to debate this on this blog had we sit back and done nothing. Even though we are there, I still think those WMD's are around somewhere, and unless Bush flattens these countries, they will not hesitate to use them.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 02:44 PM (ptOpl)

19 The problem with this is that we are seeing a woman who was committed to the aid of Iran and its people and the inference is that the Iranians have "bitten the hand that feeds". It's quite possible that it isn't even Iranians that are holding her. This is ISLAM. It's not a country, it's a religion. It knows no geographical boundaries... it just so happens that the pickings are easy in Iran at the moment and the eyes of the world are upon it. I agree with the poster above who says that "the world isn't liking what they hear about Islam at the moment". These arseholes should be thankful that us in the West are far more civilised and reasonable or we could chuck Al Jazeera enough video footage of Muslims being killed and mutilated in as many was imaginable by man to keep their station occupied for the next 100 years. They can keep on kidnapping and beheading but if they think that the terror they are instilling outweighs the resolve we feel to see this through, they should think again. I am from the UK but I urge all of you to back Bush on this one. This war needs to continue, these people out there "doing good" should come home until it's less dangerous. I sympathise with Mrs Hassan (as I sympathised with Bigley, Armstrong, Hensley etc) but let's have a little less altruism... honestly... it gets you nowhere. This war is not altuistic, it isn't about "giving the Iraqii people a better life". It's about making damn sure they don't assist any terrorists to make our life miserable again. And it's a staging point for the inevitable invasion on Iran for ditto reasons. The American Way is Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. The Islam way seems to be death, shackles and the pursuit of misery. Witness any Islamic nation for proof of this.

Posted by: Red Devil at October 23, 2004 06:09 PM (YtnPY)

20 SHIT I HOPE I'M WRONG...I JUST HEARD A NEWSFLASH ON FOX NEWS SAYING THAT MARGARET'S BEEN KILLED. Has anyone heard anything?? Rusty??? Damn, I hope it's not true, but you know, it's inevitable, it WILL happen. Bastards.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 06:12 PM (ptOpl)

21 No, have not picked up on that in the U.K as of yet Laura.

Posted by: qpr jon at October 23, 2004 06:40 PM (XnNC6)

22 I don't think so, I think they were talking about the latest video that has been released of the Iraqi that was working with the Americans? One can only hope! What are these bastards trying to accomplish with these murders? We haven't bowed down to them, do they think if they kill enough people, we would eventually give in? Is that what they're hoping? I don't understand all this.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 06:52 PM (ptOpl)

23 I notice that thru fear the hostages always agree with the terrorists. I guess the hostages hope that by agreeing with the animals they may spare them. They then kill them anyway. Hard for me to get my point across. But if they were anything but cruel killers who enjoy killing wouldn't they spare the hostages after they got what they wanted? Namely, a speech agreeing with the ISLAMIC terrorists. I want it to stop but I want revenge to. Why in the hell can't we just one time act as they do. American service man gets 8 years for humiliating a fucking animal. I'm beginning to wonder about our military higher ups. Sacrifice a American service man so they can look good to the lousy wogs.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 23, 2004 08:02 PM (CBNGy)

24 Do you think that soldier was a scapegoat, esp. since the election is drawing nearer? Does the govt. think that by handing down such a strict sentence that these animals will stop the slaughter? C'mon America, time to get real! He gets 8 fucking years for abusing the enemy???? OMG, what is WRONG with this country? And OJ still walks free! God help us.

Posted by: Laura at October 23, 2004 08:29 PM (ptOpl)

25 I say just nuke the whole fucking middle east and call it the united states of glowing oil! Nuke Mecca and Medina this ramalamadingdong or whatever those moon barkers call it. Quit with this stupid foreplay with these islamic retards and start nuking the place.

Posted by: Andre at October 23, 2004 11:59 PM (hD5mx)

26 Sadly, Andre's way may be the only way to end this. What else is there left to do?

Posted by: Laura at October 24, 2004 09:51 AM (ptOpl)

27 Just realised in my post I kept saying "Iran"... you people know that I meant "Iraq"... Freudian Slip I spose...

Posted by: Red Devil at October 24, 2004 04:05 PM (0nyE0)

28 Red Devil: Iran, Iraq = same difference!

Posted by: Laura at October 25, 2004 02:05 PM (ptOpl)

29 Wake up America! Can't you see that the price for abusing Iraqi detainees has been paid already by, NIck Berg,he was executed in retalliation for what went on at Abu Graib. Tawhid Al Jihad said themselves such acts must be paid for in Souls. The Trailer Trash Woman that was seen in all those photos abusing prisonners,''with her thumbs up gesture towards an iraqi detainee cowering cross legged trying to cover his genitals by crossing his knees'', has done more to whip up the so called enemy than a hundred Binladins!

Posted by: watchonamerica at October 25, 2004 04:20 PM (jykEo)

30 No, that stupid woman didn't whip up anything that wasn't already there. What went on in Abu Graib was inexcusable. What is going on in so called retaliation is WAR. What this war needs is an atheist leader - someone with no religious preference. The unfortunate thing, as far as the Western world is concerned is that the USA is in control but has yet to shake from the shackles of Christianity. Drop the Christianity and the war can start to be won. Declare a war on religion... that is what this has become. These sick bastards are not at war with the USA etc... they are propogating Islamic Faith. By being in any way, shape or form religious, you are encouraging these people. When the war simply boils down to objectivity (in this context, the day to day living of man as a species) you will begin to see that religion plays no part in the winning of this war. These people are at least 4 centuries behind the rest of the civilised world. They are that way because they believe in their god. If their god existed, he would have stepped in personally by now. It's all a load of bullshit, when will people realise this? Fuck Allah, Fuck God. And when I die I will be worm food... I won't go to hell.

Posted by: Red Devil at October 25, 2004 05:21 PM (M8RBJ)

31 Red Devil: I agree with much of what you say. Two points though. (1) The other religions are a force to help to control the backward gutter religion of Islam. (2) Didn't the commies try to no religion approach? Guns are tools, religion is a tool. They can be used for your cause of against it. Have a good one.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 26, 2004 08:01 AM (CBNGy)

32 What's the big fucking deal about Aba Graib prison. Shit, I've seen films of prisoners right here in America stripped naked and forced to crawl across the floor. Why is everyone making such a big deal about these Islamic faggots. Why isn't anyone attacking the vietnamese for doing worse than that to allied soldiers. Anyone out there ever in the Marine Corp (hurrah) in the sixties??? Remember 1st day in boot camp? Everyone stripped naked and had to stand asshole to bellybutton. What went on in Abu Graib was nothing to what goes on in the majority of countries in the world. The truth is we have too many sissys worried about the care of killers. They're our enemies to the death. Again, who gives a shit about them. Give a shit about the families of the 51 slaughtered Iraqi soldiers. When they're released all they do is go back to the same thing. Read about the poor, picked on Gitmo prisoners. What are they doing after being released. The same fucking thing. Frickin cry babies.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 26, 2004 08:21 AM (CBNGy)

33 WATCHONAMERICA: You're a lot of help. Stupid terrorist loving bastard.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 26, 2004 08:25 AM (CBNGy)

34 How can the world be so fucked up.? The most powerful country on earth has a president that can't even speak English with any fluidity, yet it is his mother tongue. Fuck me when he opens his mouth I cringe as I am on tender hooks waiting for the next howling mistake he makes. One of the worst is when he appears to be trying his utmost to put his brain in to gear, to say something, which he obviously rehearsed only moments previously, but which now on the rostrum fails him utterly and mometarily he has the facial expression of '' aw where the fuck am I, what the fucks all this about any ways, where is that guy Blair? Where's an ally when you need one, yup,there you go, shit how long can I keep up this tight assed phoney American smile before they realise that I'm actualy here to say something meaningful and have just forgotten my lines. The knock out punch is when this sprog of bush mark 1 tries to ad a little humour and in the process looks as dumb as shit! Knows it too! But even tries to hide behind that dumb ass smile, hoping we havent noticed what a cunt this fucker is. The best thing America sould do for us is bump off the Queen, but this time a little more subtle than the way you bumped off of Dianna. Must admit George, your state visit for the most part realy pissed me off, for goodness sakes you sent our King packing in th 18th century because of the ridicule your presidents used to suffer in London at the hands of the aristoctacy. Do you not know that at dinner party's your then president attended in London was oft humiliated and made to feel grosly inferior. Not to mention the tax on Tea which is the reason why coffee not Tea is the national beverage of America. To see you looking like a nervous child in the banquet hall of Buckingham Palace, sat next too the Queen,not knowing quite what to do with yourself, realy was awe inspiring,never before in the anals of time has a president of any state let alone states ever looked such a buffoon. You did redeem yourself somewhat though when just as all the guests were seated, the opening notes of the Star Spangled Banner rang out and you stood up with your wine glass in the air, on your own, as you thought it was a toast to the Queen, then sat down immediately, red faced, realising you had just made yourself look a right cunt! Thank ya George God bless America

Posted by: chris at October 26, 2004 08:51 AM (hd93w)

35 Greyrooster, looks like you are a bit challenged in the old grey cells departement. I was shocked and appalled at the beheading of Nick Berg, how dare you deduce from my earlier posting that I am a lover of terrorists. You obviously havent read it properly, and need to read it again, any reasonable minded person can see that this is one persons viewpoint very moderately expressed. English is obviously not your first language or your forte, though Red Neck probably is. You know anybody can swear and rant and rave. I know not one person with any degree of intelligence that chooses to do so. By swearing you simply show lack of imagination in expressing yourself adequately. It is this which frustrates you and amuses me immenseley. You then resort to swearing instead of pickilng up a book and trying to better yourself. I am truly sorry to be the bringer of bad news but this shows very low breeding. Thank goodness you are on that side of the pond and not this. To live within a thousand miles of you would be unbearable. Nobodies opinion matters but your own. If anyone disagrees with you you take it as a personal attack. You are low breeding personified . I hate to be the bringer of bad news but you realy are quite sick and should seek professional help at the earliest of opportunities. You are obviously homophobic too judging by your reference to homosexuals as faggots. This in itself shows possible latent homosexual tendencies, long supressed, by an individual who spent his/her formative years in an environement where males express their masculinity by hating everything homosexual. One could be forgiven for thinking that you probably live in on a trailer park in Utah, watch t.v.24/7, live on welfare and live in an abusive relationship. Thankyou for being the source of much amusement to me, bless you for that. Yours Faithfully, watchonamerica,London,England. 15.50 p.m British Time - Tuesday

Posted by: watchonamerica at October 26, 2004 09:58 AM (hd93w)

36 Breaking News : Just recieved email from swenpark that an Aid worker has been beheaded in Iraq. 11 am standard time statement released stating that ''God is great'',that ''there is no god but Allah'', no one group has claimed responsibility. Waiting to get full translation, group has stated that a video will be released soon and posted on the interenet. These goons claim that all infidel dog americans and british buldog poodles can learn that until they leave holy Moslem lands death shall become them. It advices all Moslems to stay away from these dog infidels lest they become as them and any Moslem that chooses to forget his religion and mixes among them shall be spited at the neck{euphemism for beheaded). All Christians, Jews , Hindus and Buddhists are the inmates of hell! More news soon as I get it

Posted by: farz at October 26, 2004 12:28 PM (oscDT)

37 The kidnapping of another British citizen brought forward the observation from the Prime Minister that this shows "the type of people we are up against". Indeed it does, but it also provokes the more pertinent observation that Mrs Margaret Hassan had been working in complete safety in Iraq for two decades prior to the coalition invasion.

Posted by: andy at October 26, 2004 02:12 PM (wIfxs)

38 WATCHONAMERICA: The statement faggot bothering you so much tells me much. Faggot. Yes, Thank goodness I am on this side of the pond. It seems that many on the other side have already began the process of giving in the the ISLAMIC fanatics. WatchonAmerica, Just the name tells me what you're about. Americans have to much class to title themselves WATCHONENGLAND. Mind your own business and keep your mouth off of America and Americans wil not attack you. I do not live in Utah, but I do love the people there. As far as the welfare comment. I can and have bought many like you. Shitheads who mind others business come cheap. Glad you live in London, maybe the 300,000 cameras on the streets there can keep an eye on you. The low breeding comment. Better check with your mother on that one. She probably told you about the trailer parks from personel experience. I need a new handle. How about WATCHONFAGGOTSINENGLAND. Now go hold your rag headed boyfriends hand.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 26, 2004 07:47 PM (CBNGy)

39 Yes, this is reminicent of Bigley, it looks like the gay virgin camel lovers will be beheaded a woman soon. I give a day or two and we'll be howling for the fosilized piece of holyshit called the cabba to be nuked.

Posted by: Andre at October 27, 2004 11:50 PM (hD5mx)

40 Oh land of the free, quite the contrary laim brain, but thank you for the laugh, your hate filled biggotry makes you look such a wanker. You make so many assumptions based on ignorance and hate,one has to feel sorry for you. It is my business what goes on in the world as much as it is yours or anybody elses. The difference between us is that I would be the first one to defend your right to free speach,so long as it does not insite hatred of others based on their race, religion or sexual orientation. Just to educate you a bit, every homosexual male or female was the product of a heterosexual egg and heterosuxual sperm. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! Your paranoia about homosexuals makes me think they occupie your every waking or should that be wanking thought, or perhaps thought of a wanker, one has to be conscious that we are divided by a common language. I had intended to post a message completely without reference to you or this subject as unlike you it is not my every waking thought. However when I saw your posting I felt compelled to respond. You are so proud to be as you call it American, the only true Americans to be correct are the very indigenous peoples your forefathers and mine,for the most part,wiped of the face of the map,in a rather conveniently for the likes of you - largely unrecognised wholesale genocide. The 'lot' of those that survived was to be placed on ever reducing reservations in Canada and the US , a humilliation for such a wonderful civillzation that were and are the true custodians of North America. They took from the land only that which they needed. I have a lot of respect for all indigineous peoples throughout the world. Unlike the greedy self serving Caucasians the North Amercan Indian lived in harmony with the earth, seeing all life as intertwined, interconnected. Yes they had their tribal wars and rightly tried to defend their homeland of America for many years. Thank you once again for being the source of much amusement to me, you realy are quite a cad, God bless America

Posted by: watchonamerica at October 28, 2004 03:43 PM (zJK1R)

41 Just for the record, there are some of us in Britain who side squarely with what the Bush/Blair administrations are doing in Iraq. For those of us whom have studied a bit of history (and obviously watchonamerica has not) we are witnessing the rise of a disturbing ideology, much like fascism or nazism. When faced with such an abominable thing as islamic extremism, a somber verse from the famed American poet, Walt Whitman highlights a feeling felt by many: "Re-examine all you have been told...Dismiss what insults you Soul" Therefore, listen not to the chorus of critics, and do not sit idly by while heathens such as Zarqawi plant seeds of doubt and discord into the feeble minds of ones such as watchonamerica. Stand up and support America and Britain, as eventually, due to our vigilance and sacrifice, we will someday have a stable, safe and democratic middle east. History will vindicate the drastic actions taken in Iraq....mark my words.

Posted by: Jeff at October 29, 2004 10:28 AM (n5uqi)

42 One last thing for that insufferable twit, watchonamerica; the following comment clearly evidences to me that you've not even had the most rudimentary of education in history of the americas: "Unlike the greedy self serving Caucasians the North Amercan Indian lived in harmony with the earth, seeing all life as intertwined, interconnected." American Indians lived in Harmony eh? Some of the bloodiest battles ever fought happened long before any conquistadors of Francisco Vazquez de Coronado ever set foot in the americas. Indian life was tribal, with human sacrifices to various gods common. Sound familiar? Oh, and don't forget the scalping. Compassion and tolerance are both advents of a civilised society. The American Indians had lived century upon century with little progress and near constant tribal warfare. Again, history has vindicated the act of colonizing the Americas. Iraq will be no exception.

Posted by: Jeff at October 29, 2004 10:44 AM (n5uqi)

43 Jeff, my pet hate is wannabee American Brits like you that use improper English with an American slant on it. If you want to be American go and live in America, get the fuck out of here! To quote you ''the following comment clearly evidences''. What kind of English is that? Evidences does not exist in the English dictionary. Unless the one you hold is a Yankee one. And it was Vasco de Gamma you twit not Vasques or coronado you bollocks! You know shit about any history least of all the Americas.Fuck the Monarchy, Fuck Bush and Blair and Fuck you, you un read piece of shit. Oh and another thing, whatever dictionary you have,get it out and use it for fucks sake can't you, cause your posting is full of errors. You have either spent time stateside or watched too much Starsky And Hutch. Grow up,that shit was made in Toronto not N.Y.C,you pathetic sad wanabee American. The only way there'l be peace in the middle east is if the Americans stop funding Israel and the Israelies Give back Palestinians their land Which they stole in 1948 saying okay guys this is our land it says so in the Torah,look right there,5000 years ago this was our land and we are re claiming it. Before the hollocaust hollocaust there was no problem with the jews and Arabs they lived along side each other for centuries, the Jews were not oppressed. They have brought upon palestinians the same suffering the Jews suffered under the Third Reich. Thats what caused all this fundamentallist backlash,Zionism and corporate America. Yes these beheadings are sick and inhuman but the palestinian cause is now and always has been a Moslem cause. Islam is not a country, it is a global force, this is Jihad, a global jihad,for every terrorist killed another will take his or her place, and another and another and it goes on and on until America realises it and Israel are the root cause of all the problems in the world regarding Islamic Fundamentalists. They alone fuel the fire of hate that encourages these sick bastards to on to do their dastardly deeds.Wake up and smell the coffee Jeff, before its too late!

Posted by: watchonamerica at October 29, 2004 07:09 PM (wSnbh)

44 I am so sick of these d*mn rag heads. I have had it! I say nuke those b*stards and be done with it. I used to care, now I am angry. Let them keep it up and ALL of America and the world will agree with my comment VERY soon. There will be a waist land in the Mid-East to remind them all of the STUPIDITY that was once displayed in Iraq!

Posted by: MrSmooth99 at October 31, 2004 05:40 PM (jDer+)

45 I am so sick of these d*mn rag heads. I have had it! I say nuke those b*stards and be done with it. I used to care, now I am angry. Let them keep it up and ALL of America and the world will agree with my comment VERY soon. There will be a waist land in the Mid-East to remind them all of the STUPIDITY that was once displayed in Iraq!

Posted by: MrSmooth99 at October 31, 2004 05:41 PM (jDer+)

46 Posted by: watchonamerica at October 28, 2004 03:43 PM Oh land of the free, quite the contrary laim brain, but thank you for the laugh, your hate filled biggotry makes you look such a wanker. ------------ Lets see, laim brain? don't you mean "LAME BRAIN" Also, biggotry is correctly spelled "BIGOTRY" Your lack of historical knowledge is only matched by your inability to spell simple words.

Posted by: Andre at November 02, 2004 02:54 PM (hD5mx)

47 Not for nothing Watchon, but for someone exulting the use of a dictionary your posts are filled with errors. For example, your October 29th 7:09PM post consisted of the following inaccuracies: American (I between the r and c) Americas (capitalization) Civilized (not s, z) Evidences (is a real word in the dictionary) Vasquez (with a z) Coronado (capitalization) ThereÂ’ll (two ls) Israelis (no ies) Holocaust (one l) Jews (capitalization) Palestinians (capitalization) ThatÂ’s (need an apostrophe here) Fundamentalist (one L) Realizes (with a z not an s)

Posted by: Chris at November 03, 2004 11:11 AM (b3y8R)

48 we must eliminate the entire race

Posted by: mike at November 16, 2004 03:37 PM (6RmRX)

49 WATCHONAMERICA... I proudly serve my country! I take to offense the fact that you are so willing to bring up the fact of how North America came to be, yet if I remember history correctly was not the british a colonial ruler, a country that has also suppressed many throughout the world...please do not bring up the atrocities at which we have commited when you are just as guilty...just ask the scottish people and irish you still suppress today.....as far as living on this side of the pond I AM PROUD OF IT for there is no other country I would rather be associated with in this modern world. And I would die defending her beliefs...but the question should be....would you die for yours?

Posted by: NavySir at December 03, 2004 11:36 AM (NrqwJ)

50 www.fromthewilderness.com Im afraid its all a lot bigger than 'We're bringing freedom to the world!' and 'They're all terrorist supporting ragheads that hate our freedom!' When will you pathetic children realise that life is not black and white. Your country are not the White Knights and the Middle East is not the evil dragon. Perhaps if, not just your people, perhaps if their people as well, if every single person on this planet, realised long ago that life is a chessboard, that you, we, are the pawns, and people with so much power, influence and money it is disgusting, are the Kings, Queens and Bishops, that you are simply playing the part what your controllers want to to, which at the moment is to shout and cheer patriotically at every dicision they make that brings us all closer to the end, perhaps if we all realised that long ago we would not now be standing at the fucking brink, staring over the abyss into the face of anihilation. Or perhaps not. Who knows. All i say is take a long fucking look at what is to come soon, within the next few years, and maybe decide not to cheer when your tanks roll into to Iran, or Syria, or North Korea. And be prepared for what will happen next, when China comes. Enjoy the future you, we, have all allowed to come true, i know im not going to much. Perhaps you could start by wondering when the idea of locking people up without trial, torturing them, and holding them for years in a concentration camp, will be changed to include not only terrorists, but say someone who happens to enjoy smoking a joint after work, alcoholics, gays, mexicans and blacks as well as all other races that are not white, and other 'undesirables' as well. It astonishes me how this exact storyline has played itself out twice in the last century, and again we are falling for it. Do you think the German people knew of the horror to come when their armies invaded Poland? I think Einstein summed it up nicely. 'I know not with what weapons World War Three shall be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones.' Enjoy it people, because we are all responsible for this.

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Hey, my site is back up!! Thanks for all of you who visited my backup site. Yes, I do have a backup. You can SEE IT HERE. Bookmark it. If this site ever goes down again you can always check to see what I'm up to over there. I actually posted over there today, even if it was mostly moaning and bitching and a whole lotta link whoring. Back to my regular routine tomorrow.

UPDATE: I just checked the sitemeter--OUCH!!

PS-Today is the third anniversary of the release of Rusty Shackleford v. 2.0. He's three years old today and Papa Shackleford couldn't be more proud. I love you son. Happy birthday!!

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The Crack Young Staff are at it again. Here's a petition you'll never see signed by any of my colleagues:

“The Hatemonger’s Quarterly” Official Academics Against Remote Oppression that in No Way Affects Them Manifesto (THMQOAAROTINWATM):

We, the undersigned, are deeply troubled by manifold injustices: Capitalism, democracy, &c. Yet we wish to announce that we are untroubled by various issues that would normally trouble such beacons of “social justice” as ourselves.

We hereby declare that the following things do not in any way bother us:

1. The fact that numerous professors at our universities are offered starvation wages and no health-care. As long as they teach the classes we donÂ’t want to bother with, thatÂ’s fine by us. [ed. Note: Stotch, you reading this?]
2. The fact that our graduate students live in abject poverty. As long as they teach the classes we donÂ’t want to bother with, thatÂ’s fine by us.
3. The fact that our parking spots are far, far better than those held by lowly service employees. Sure, we’re Marxists and all, but we don’t want to take this “fairness” stuff too far.
4. The fact that some students want a balanced liberal arts education, instead of four years of left-wing agitprop. [ed note: don't let the Social Work department get a hold of this!]

PS-I would pay to see Steve put this up on his office door!

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Here is some spam I got today. Funny that they would send it to moi? Yes. A scam? Probably. But the fact that people will probably send in money to these guys is scary on so many different levels. Just what we need in this world, more followers of the Religion of Peas. more...

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Last week the press reported that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had formally pledged his Tawhid and Jihad terrorist organization's loyalty to Ossama bin Laden's al Qaeda network. Chad Evans at In the Bullpen informs me of a press report that Zarqawi's group has changed names. His new al Qaeda linked organization will be callled "al-Qaida of Jihad in the Land of Two Rivers"--proving once again that terrorists think of the worst names.

Also, there seems to be some evidence that Zarqawi is receiving aid from Iran. Which points out one of the problems with Pat Buchanan's theory of isolating terrorist supporting states in much the same way that we isolated states in the past: it assumes that Islamic states will act just like any other state--rationally. I actually heard Pat say once that the Mullahs in Iran would not do anything stupid that would threaten their own national existence. You mean do something stupid like support a terrorist organization with official ties to al Qaeda?

So, what's in a name? Nothing, oh, except if your a Democrat who think this is the Global War on bin Laden not the Global War on Terror. Is it just me, or do the rest of you almost puke when you hear Kerry try to invoke bin Laden's name as if al Qaeda were the only terrorist organization bent on global jihad in the world? So now that Zarqawi is officially linked to al Qaeda maybe the Democrats will support his extermination. Now if only Arafat would change his party's name to "Fatah and al Qaeda in the land of Zionist pigs" .....

In related news, check out this al-Reuters article. First, notice the headline: "Iraq Rebels Betraying Zarqawi". Betraying? WTF? The rest of the article is better than the headline might suggest.

Iraqi guerrillas resentful of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's growing influence are giving the government information putting security forces hot on his trail, a senior official said Wednesday....

Staring at a photograph of the elusive Zarqawi, Rubaie said the interim government was closer than ever to tracking down the most wanted man in Iraq, to its unlikely allies.

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Sortapundit is helping raise money for a school in Bangalore, India. If you can spare the change, why not donate to his brother's marathon for charity this weekend. He has a pay-pal button and all!

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Simon was there and reports:

Blogs: Zogby saw these as important, with each having its own constituency. However they are unlikely to change minds; instead "they serve to stoke the fires of anger." In other words, blogs are preaching to the converted.

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I saw Team America: World Police last night with the only other Bush supporter on the floor and a Chomsky loving lesbo (the real kind, not the hot ones on TV)--what better way to spend a night out on the town with the guys? No small task for a guy with three kids, but Mrs. Shackleford was so impressed by my birthday gift that she yielded to my endless whining about the movie. As I've already noted so many times, I've been waiting for this movie for months.

What did I think of Team America: World Police? One of the funniest movies ever made. The funniest movie ever.

I laughed so often and so hard that today I have a laughing hangover. I'm being totally seriously here. My body is literally--physically-- sore this morning. I don't think I'll be able to smile for a week.

I'm not much of a list maker, but I've been axing myself how Team America: World Police compares to other movies? Here's my top five list of all time funniest movies:

1) Team America: World Police "F**k yeah!"
2) Blazing Saddles "The sherrif is a ni--"
3) Animal Crackers "How the elephant got in my pajamas I'll never know."
4) The Jerk "I was born a poor black child."
5) Pearl Harbor "I think World War II just started."

Here's what the right blogosphere is saying about Team America: World Police:

Sullie-"Parker and Stone are now indisputably the comic geniuses of their generation. The point of the movie is not nihilism - it's sanity. Sanity against the moronic ra-ra pro-Americanism of many in the Bush camp...."
-Demosophist-"It's like [Sullie] saw a different movie than I did."
-Roger L. Simon-"...loved the film."
-Russell Wardlow-"High art, it ain't, but I've never laughed so hard in a movie theater before."
-Charles Johnson-"I highly recommend Team America. ItÂ’s a technical tour-de-force, with deliberately retro-cheesy puppets and incredible sets, and a decidedly anti-idiotarian take on the major issues."
-John Hawkins-"I can tell you that this is a dream movie for South Park Republicans who support fighting the war on terrorism & love to watch liberals being mocked mercilessly"
-Fritz Schranck-I havenÂ’t laughed that hard in a good while....Go see this movie--for America.
-Leopold Stotch-"Trey Parker and Matt Stone have done it again in what I say without hyperbole is one of the finest films ever made. I'm seriously."
-Flea-"You know you are in the right place when the first words to scroll across the screen are "Paris, France" and everybody starts laughing. "
-Jon of Aaargh!-"Now, if you haven't already, go see the movie.
-Pink Kitty-"The Empress gives it all paws up (but not in that French surrender kind of way.) Funniest movie of 2004. "
-Lord Floppington- "I thought it was great....Unlike Micheal Moore, you get the feeling Parker and Stone actually love this country, even when they take jabs at our foreign policy."
-Dean Esmay-"Team America: F*** Yeah! Can't. Stop. Laughing."
-Sean Hackbarth-"The Michael Moore antidote...hysterical..."
-Ian S.-"In terms of raw laughs per minute itÂ’s easily the funniest movie IÂ’ve ever seen."
-Citizen Smash-"Even funnier than Pearl Harbor!"
-Leftorium-"...unbelievably hilarious."
-BummerDietz-"It's funny. A Hollywood crowd guffawed throughout."
-Cigarette Smoking Man from the X-Files-"I made the mistake of bringing a large coke in there with me and couldn't drink a drop for fear of it coming out my nose, I was laughing so hard."
-Pennywit-"Go see Team America."
-Peter at SFSignal-"After watching this movie, it was some time before I stop saying my Ls as Rs..."
-Kate at Texas Gary-"The whole shebang was beyond awesome..."
-SondraK- "I recovered quickly from my shock and proceeded to laugh my ass off."
-Matt at Overtaken by Events-"Funny as hell."
-Rita at Res Ipsa Loquitur-"Oh. My. God. I laughed so much my face hurts."
-Laurence Simon-"Three word movie review: America, f*ck yeah!"
-Sissy Willis-"Four paws for 'Team America'"
-Bloodspite-"anything that makes Mikey Moore to be a hot dog cramming fat blob can't be all bad!"
-Cranky Neocon-"..it was Airplane! style farce with with enough over-the-top shock value to bring my inner 14 year old back to life."

PS-When I first started this roundup I didn't know Smash and Bloodspite over at Techography were also doing roundups. Thanks to both of them for providing some of the links.

(Cross-Posted at Anticipatory Retaliation)

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I've got tickets for the 7 p. m. show. To say I'm excited would be an understatement. I haven't been this giddy with anticipation since my wedding night. I have an updated roundup of the blogosphere's reaction to the movie here.

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Gordito the Cranky Neocon is just funny.

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Yeah, I sort of blew the headline out of proportion to the actual story--but just remember my home-town paper is the L.A. Times! Here is a Toronto Sun article describing what happened when some Canadian troops came across a large ammunition dump in the Belgian controlled zone. Notice the reaction of the French, German, and Swedish officers. "A Frog, a Kraut, and a Swede walk into an ammunition dump....":

Canadian soldiers attached to the Afghan National Army (ANA) have stirred up a hornet's nest in Kabul by being too efficient.

They've "discovered" a huge Soviet ammunition dump a few kilometres from Camp Julien with the potential of obliterating the camp, as well as most of Kabul....

Many of the rockets, missiles and shells had been pried open for the explosives, which are used peacefully to blast mountain rock into gravel, and by those who want to make bombs that disrupt Kabul....

I've never seen anything like it. The feeling is that AMF soldiers were selling access to the dump or permitting friends to enter it.

Littered with burned out Soviet military vehicles, the whole area is a junk pile strewn with every sort of live ammunition, fuses, unexploded shells, rockets, etc., all supposedly under the authority of Belgian troops (at the moment), who ignored it.

In the midst of examining the bunkers and taking photos, a Swedish UN guy, a French major and a German colonel arrived to make a fuss and order the Canadians to leave. The French major insisted his government had a deal with the Afghan government for the area, and ISAF had no business being there.

PS-Super-secret memo to INDC BILL. I'll see your .wav/.gif and raise you twenty. Oh, I also agree with Citizen Smash--Oh to have seen that, even if it meant breaking my vow never to buy anything French again!!!

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Hallalujah!!!! ABC News:

British authorities pre-empted a U.S. bid to extradite radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, charging the fiery preacher Tuesday with urging followers to kill non-Muslims, in some case specifically targeting Jews.

On what was scheduled to have been the first day of his extradition hearing, al-Masri, 46, sat in court to face 10 charges of soliciting or encouraging the murder of others, "namely a person or persons who did not believe in the Islamic faith." Four of the charges added: "in particular Jewish people."

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NEWS HERE. Richard Gere begins hunger strike in protest. Volvos across nation don new 'Syria out of Lebanon' stickers. Worker's World Party begins massive letter writing campaign to key Congressman. Security Council passes 137 resolutions condemning Syria's illegal occupation, sets up special refugee task force to aid fleeing Maronites. International ANSWER to stage massive 'No blood for Lebanese Cedar Trees' rally on Washington Mall. CARE director Margaret Hassan unavailable for comment.

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Every day I get e-mail from readers who say pretty much the same thing, "Yeah, but aren't all religions just basically the same?"

The answer, of course, is NO. Ever hear of a fundamentalist Amish ordering the death of a wayward soul because they became one of those blesphemous Mennonites? Under Islamic law blasphemy is punishable by death.

Asia News:

Hamid Pourmand is a Protestant minister of the Assemblies of God Church. He converted from Islam several years ago. Since September he has been held in prison at an undisclosed location and under Iranian law he can be put to death for “apostasy against Islam”. He was arrested on September 9 in Karaj, a town 30 km west of the capital Tehran during a police raid against the annual General Council of the Assemblies of God Church.

A Pakistani man has been sentenced to life imprisonment for burning a copy of the Koran. A court in Lahore found Mehdi Hassan, 36, guilty under Pakistani laws covering offences against Islam, the prophet Mohammed or the Koran.

The Australian Baha'i Community has spoken out against the destruction of sacred and historic sites in Iran. In a statement released today, the Baha'i Community describes a series of demolitions that point to a campaign of "cultural cleansing" by Iran's ruling authorities, who are determined to remove all traces of the Baha'i Faith, the country's largest religious minority.

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That's the actual title of this Guardian article which has responses to the Guardian's efforts to meddle in the Presidential election:

Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.

Editorial note: This and the other letters printed here were responses to something the Guardian was doing. The online version of the Guardian had started an online campaign to get British citizens to write voters in Ohio urging them to vote for John Kerry. This explains the tone of some of the responses. Also, notice the title of the article? A ploy by the Guardian to explain how we 'tards and rednecks could actually vote for that mean and stupid Bush-Hitler.

PS-Now I know why the Guardian is so pro-Kerry.

Double-lizzle PS-Bill say's the Guardian got "Not exactly the results that they expected." Nope, not exactly. And Kevin is wringing his hands in anticipation of Ohio districts to start voting. Yeah, I can't wait either!

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Bravo Romeo Delta, the Domosophist and yours truly, Dr. Rusty Shackleford, have decided to do something never before done in the history of the blogosphere: cross-posting. Yeah, I know it's a radically new concept, and something sure to generate a lot of copycatting, but I own the patent on this one and I know a good attorney.

So why did we do this? I dunno. Seems pretty fun-kay, and after all isn't the funk all that matters?

Just to clarify, these guys aren't 'guest bloggers' or whatever, these guys are now part of Team Sancrawler, and vice versa---er, I guess I'm part of Team Nuk-em and Team Dead Greek Philosophers or something??

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UPDATE 11/16: Margaret Hassan has been executed on video. Check this post for 11/16 update or go to MAIN PAGE for news, links to video, and images of hostages in Iraq.

UPDATE 10/22: A video showing Margaret Hassan pleading for her life has been aired on al-Jazeera TV. Update here.

Via Digger's Realm this ironical news:

The director of CARE International's operation in Iraq [Margaret Hassan] was kidnapped early Tuesday in Baghdad, the organization said.

M. H. King says "Just damn."
Jeff Quinton notes that the hostage video has now been shown on US TV.
Michele at the Command Post is also covering this.

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James Joyner links this article about freed Guantanamo Bay prisoners who return to a life of jihad and terrorism. According to the article, of the 146 who were released from Guantanamo "after U.S. officials had determined that they no longer posed threats and had no remaining intelligence value" at least seven have returned to their former goal of bringing about the global Caliphate. None, as far as I can tell, has actually disavowed the Islamist ideology. Forget what the politicians are saying--this is not just a war against terrorism it is a war against an ideology that is every bit as evil as Nazi fascism, Japanese Imperialism, or Soviet Communism.

The article only includes this little tidbit about what the seven have been up to:

One released detainee killed a judge leaving a mosque in Afghanistan...

Maulvi Abdul Ghaffar was killed by Pakistani troops in South Waziristan on Sept. 26th after he rejoined the Taliban.

Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane went back to Denmark where he initially threatened to sue the US over 'unlawful detention'. However, he has recently announced his intentions of dropping the suit and leaving Scandinavia to join the Chechen jihadis fighting in Russia.

Abdullah Mehsud returned to Pakistan where he recently mastermined the kidnapping of two Chinese nationals. Both hostages were killed and the Pakistanis are presently in an intense manhunt trying to capture him.

If any of you knows the fate of any of the other released prisoners, I'd love to hear from you.

Other bloggers running the Willie Horton of Gitmo story: (Hat tip to James Joyner) Steve Green, Sean Hackbarth, Digger, Right on Red, Six Meat Buffet, Llama Butchers

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So far, you've probably are already familiar with some of the more popular electoral vote predictors and election guesstimation sites. Two of the bigger ones are Election Projection (pro-Bush), and Electoral Vote (pro-Kerry). While both these sites seem to be making a solid effort to be, like, fair and stuff, they aren't bastions of statistical accuracy.

But there are some places to get much more accurate and thoroughly reasoned analysis of the elections with some links and current predictions, based on current polling data.
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1 So if we average the averages, Bush still wins? Please, please, say yes.

Posted by: Jane at October 18, 2004 06:07 PM (hoo48)

2 This Californian will be doing his part to help Bush win. Probably only 1 in 4, but hey .

Posted by: B52GUNR at October 18, 2004 06:18 PM (isG+j)

3 I think that's what I think. All in all, though my spidey sense tells me that Bush is going to do better than expected in the polling. But, to be on the safe side, just make sure you vote.

Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at October 18, 2004 06:58 PM (9X/fX)

4 So here is the big question: If these sites are better than the two most popular ones, how come they diverge from each other even more than Election Projection and Electoral Vote? Just because some of these guys have Ph.Ds doesn't necessarily mean that their methodology is any better.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 19, 2004 07:58 AM (JQjhA)

5 I can breath again.

Posted by: Jane at October 19, 2004 08:11 AM (AaBEz)

6 Why Rusty, of course a big degree makes everything more reliable and accurate. [/yeah-right]

Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at October 19, 2004 09:32 AM (9X/fX)

7 Hey, I resemble that commnt!!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 19, 2004 10:03 AM (JQjhA)

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