1 awe inspiring. Justice and mercy, God is both.

2 Amen Rusty. Love and forgiveness, if only more people practiced it.

3 Excellent post.

4 Jesus is the f'n Man. Never doubt that!

5 Greg is throwing stones.

6 Got to love jesus. Jesus kicks much ass. More than Scott Baio even.

7 The Jewish pharisees are trying to trap Jesus, and He gives the only answer that truly takes the wind out of their sails, leaving them unable to act. Awesome. It's important to note that, yes, He forgives her, but He ALSO tells her to change her self-destructive behavior.

8 Rusty, this is a beautiful post! Thank you.

9 Though I'm an atheist, I like this Jesus a lot better than the ones the Baptists are fond of. You know, the one who hates fags and kills innocent people to punish the guilty. I call that one the Evil Jesus.

10 IM: Jesus doesn't hate people, but He is pained at what some people do.

11 Improbulus, The same Jesus who forgives now will also sit in judgement. Are you comfortable that you can stand before Him and proclaim your righteousness? (Keep in mind, He never sinned, He never hated, He created the universe, He has power and authority over everything...) I can't imagine standing in front of Him, mired in my selfishness, weakness, hate, ... sin. Thankfully, He offered _me_ the same forgiveness that He offered to the woman. All I have to do is accept it, then He will clean me up, and present me before His Father. Anyone who claims to be a Christian, but "hates fags and kills innocent people" is a liar. However, any Christian who doesn't point out sin, and offer the path to salvation is hateful. If I saw you heading for a disaster, but didn't say anything to stop you - wouldn't you think I was evil? Likewise, if I don't point out that sin separates you from salvation, and only the love of Jesus Christ can save you - I would be evil. Clearly, homosexuality is a sin - but so are all of the sins _I_ commit each day. I don't hate myself, and I don't hate homosexuals. But I want to offer them the chance at salvation.

12 RW: Correction--the Christianity does not condemn homosexuality, it condemns homosexual BEHAVIOR, just as it does immoral, promiscuous HETEROSEXUAL behavior, something a lot of people who tend to focus on homosexuals forget.

13 Improbulous, Jesus doesn't hate sinners, as you can see by how he treated the adulteress. But he does hate sin, which is why he commanded her to sin no more.

14 Carlos: Damn it, I just said that.

15 Beth, fuck you. Islam doenst command evil. You do. Yo dont know shit about Islam. Shut your yap you stupid, ignorant, bitch.

16 Anwar: put away your hate; read The First Gospel of John and see if you are still an angry fool. Then read another Gospel and check again. Repeat until you have finished all four. Read them alone with God and take no outside influence. Hey that sounds like a worthwhile task for myself as well. Hey it's got to be better than going through your entire life angry. And such language to a lady?? Now I respect Islam. Not....

17 RW, you do realize that I am an atheist don't you? This means that I don't believe in any judgment, afterlife, reward, or punishment. I arrived at this position through many years of study, contemplation, and yes, prayer. I used to be a Christian, and a devout one at that. I read the Bible twice straight through when I was in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm, and I read everything I could get my hands on about Christian and Jewish history and legend. I prayed a lot and tried to live as I thought Jesus might have found appropriate, but I found that the more I tried to become like Christ, the less of a connection I had with Christianity. Christianity is the religion about Jesus, not the religion of Jesus. In fact, the real Yeshua bin Yusef was not very likely in any way similar to the mythical Jesus of Christianity. Jesus Christ is just a Greek name and title for man who was made a legend, and the legend was made a god. All the miraculous attributes given Jesus over the ages were at various times ascribed to other deities, and even Euclid, who was rumored to walk on water. I have no problem with "neither do I judge you, go and sin no more", but what has that to do with Christianity? The more like Christ I tried to be, the more of an outcast I was among Christians. Most Christians I ever knew were hypocrites and liars and had no more interest in being like Jesus than the man in the moon. I have no problem with Jesus the wise teacher, my problem is with the lies and myths told of him in order to fleece the suckers and gain wealth and power for the conmen. I have no gods, no devils. I am free. If I do good, I do so of my own free will. Is this not pure enough? If I do evil, does it matter why? Good and evil need no cause nor bear any merit or stain outside themselves. If there is a god, and that god is good, then I have nothing to fear. If there is no god, then I have nothing to fear. If there is a god, and that god is evil, then only his followers need worry.

18 One thing is for sure.Etheists think of God mor then believers do,They keep saying i dont believe in god and so on,but they do take his name more then most beleivers do. and for the fun part.Neil Armstong becomes muslim :O !!! http://answering-islam DOT org DOT uk/Hoaxes/neil.html

19 And Mr.Borbon sounds like the perfect desciple, He follows the word of god with out any superstitions.

20 IM: Have you ever read Pascal's "Wager"? Monzter: I love compliments, but I'm FAR from perfect. I fall short everyday, but I keep trying. It's a continuous struggle that's not easy, but infinitely fulfilling.

21 Improbulus, I did see that you declared yourself an atheist. One form of rebellion against God is as good as another. Trust me, I am perfectly aware that us "Christians" are all hypocrits. Any standard of life that is less than perfect means that I fall short of my "goal" every day. It doesn't stop me from trying. As for "all of the miracles of Jesus" being found in other myths and legends, that's an interesting "proof", but lacks a lot in terms of scientific validity. Could it be that the ruler of the world is trying to deceive you (and others) into justifying life away from the truth? I'd recommend you re-read the book of Job (Old Testament). Here's a man whom God himself declares as righteous - yet he's not good enough to stand before God and plead his case. When you have to stand before the Almighty and plead your case - keep in mind Job's situation.

22 Recently a woman was stoned to death over there; when are these countries going to become humane? Saudi Arabia beheaed their 54 victim this year so far. twice as many as last year at this point of time AND WE ACCEPT THIS AS THE NORM??? And the US hates the fact that Predisent Bush is religious? He's a Methodist and his brother Jeb has converted to Roman Catholic. If you're an atheist, then you don't believe in anything. Do we want a president with no beliefs at at all??? Cindy

23 if terorists keep saying what there doing is part part of there religion then muslims and muslim countrys are one day who knows in the near future and maybe hundreds of years later going to eventualy say "is part of being muslim doing this whats the point of being muslim or beleiving in anything " and will probably turn athiest. Considering the conflict between diferent tribes in the midle east that raged fo hundreds if not thousands of years they fought these conflicts with each other over land and survival til the colinists arivived and the diferent peoples made there respective countrys since then that way of life is stil fresh in the peoples sphicy as we have moved forward in our technoligy has changed drastickly since then and during that change up until now the peoples of muslim countrys and the midle east have had a peep at this great change also in the way of life there are sky scrapers and biusness ofices in muslim countrys in time the muslim countrys and midle eastern countrys might get this development fully from the west not because of this but because of the terrorism the people might say what have we got to fight for we have everyhting we have and say what i just said before these countrys and the religious clerics should let the people decide how to live on a moral basis and not tell the people how to live one who is moral out of fear of retribution is not being made or will make others moral at all only afraid religion and religious morality can only come from the heart not from punishment or fear of being punished let the people have free speech and free media as long as it is not hateful and elect there own government and discover there own sexuality and sexual intent and morality this way if the people are and im im not saying it should be fully like this not realy just yet anyhow but if it is this way the people who are practicing muslims and intend to be in these countrys will do it from the heart i hope the technilogical changes and the changes of thought will help the whole all the world to live in peace. excuse me for any spelling mistakes