August 22, 2005
Religion of Peace Update: Cindy Sheehan Gets Beheaded by Iraqi Minutemen edition
As Joan Baez pretends any one ever really cared about her music by reliving her glory days that never really were, remember the words made famous by The Red Hot Chili Peppers:
People
Keep on learnin'
Soldiers
Keep on warrin'
I'll do the teachin' part and let our brave soldiers to the warrin. Good hunting, and remember to pop a terrorist for me. It's the Religion of Peace update:
Tattoine:
Is the CIA finally taking Rusty Shackleford's recommendations to heart and shutting down al Qaeda press releases or have we just killed so many of Michael Moore's minutemen that there's no one left to man the keyboard? Al-Qaida's Network in Iraq Goes (Temporarily) Silent.
French Report: Iran will get nuke bomb soon.
40 more 'good' Taliban warriors--you know, dead. (via NIF)
Al Qaeda WMD attack against British Parliament foiled. (via ITB)
No Sharia in Iraq! Scroll to bottom of this post to find out how you can help.
Is Sean Penn finally getting it? Not likely, but interesting report any way. (via Talk Left)
Totten: Darfur is the Bosnia of our time. Wrong, Darfur is the Cambodia of our time.
Support for terrorism falling in Middle East (via The Puppy Blender)
Bryan of The Junk Yard Blog Michelle Malkin's blog does a first class fisking of some of the anti-Iraq-war arguments.
If you missed last night's Inside 9/11 on The National Geographic Channel you missed the best 9/11 report yet made. The Countterrorism blog's Steve Emerson was prominently featured and the 2 hour show held nothing back, including scathing criticism of the Clinton Administration.
British equvelant of CAIR blames JOOs for negative media images.
Domestic Dhimmis (featuring Cindy Sheehan):
Presbyterians can't help it if they're antisemites, they were predestined that way. (via Discarded Lies)
Was Michael Grahan fired because of pressure from CAIR or did he quit?
Dennis Kucinich not gay after all, get's married to Brit. Ok, not all the way gay at least.
Vietnam Vet who knows nothing about Vietnam--or Iraq.
Operation 'Word to your mother' (aka, 'You don't speak for me Cindy Sheehan') is on.
The L.A. Times runs a column by Patterico "Peacenick paper fawns over antiwar mom."
Sheehan's latest idiotic statement revealed: "This country is not worth dying for.”
More idiocy from Sheehan: "The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush."
Confused over which is lesser of two evils: McCain v. Clinton in '08.
Anti-dhimmitude from Newt Gingrich, a John Hawkins interview.
ACLU fighting to remove Bible from everywhere, replace with Quran.
The Great Raid reviewed: NY Times idiots don't realize that Japs worse than Nazis in treatment of POWs.
Funny:
Geek dressed as stormtrooper caught shoplifting (Via FARK)
Bloggers: Where are they now? (2040)
Welcome back Kotter, I mean Commissar.
Carnival of the RINO sightings is up. Check it out.
Happy Blogoversary Aaron.
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Sorry, but I'm with the ACLU on the item posted above. As a Jew, I'd rather not swear on the New Testament. I can perfectly understand if a Muslim wishes to swear on a copy of the Koran. This is a case of simple religious tolerance and respect, not some creeping anti-christian bias.
The judge is genuinely in breach of the Establishment Clause.
Posted by: ericj at August 22, 2005 10:04 AM (hrQvk)
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If the Dems go with Hillary it's a looser. They need new blood not the same old tired people they have now. Gingrich looks pretty good. I like him. I like McCain too. Already we have way better candidates. Even if ya don't like McCain he'll smoke Clinton. She's more of a turn off than Bill.
Posted by: Howie at August 22, 2005 11:29 AM (D3+20)
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The last two chapters of a review of Weigel's book "The Cube and the Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics without God":
"In the book’s closing chapters, Weigel entertains a series of possible outcomes for Europe. The chances of the EU’s dream of a post-Christian perpetual peace are slim to none; Weigel more realistically predicts that Europe’s various muddles will persist into the foreseeable future. He finds hope for Continental renewal in the still active Catholicism of Central and Eastern European nations, and in a Continent-wide critical mass of energetic Catholic youth rejecting the wayward wobbles of recent generations for the deep reserves of Christian Europe. The darkest possible outcome, according to Weigel, would be “1683 Reversed”: the continued large-scale immigration into Europe of Muslims armed with very different ideas about religion and politics. If current trends continue, these immigrants would encounter a Continent equipped to welcome them with only self-inflicted cultural amnesia, watery pluralism, and mundane humanism. Passion for the crescent would overwhelm indifference to the Cross, and these new Europeans would take charge of a demographic and democratic wasteland.
This last matter suggests most immediately why Americans have a stake in Europe’s future: Though it would take decades for such a situation to develop, a Europe potentially defined from its leadership down by a broadly anti-Western Muslim majority would pose striking civilizational challenges to the U.S. Yet for all his concern and complaint, Weigel refuses to abandon Europe to itself, and he demands the same of his readers — specifically in how we understand our own historical formation. Though patriotic amnesiacs may resist him, Weigel emphasizes that the success of the American experiment owes a great deal to the influence of Old World civilization. While qualifications and refusals of this fact have been made from Emerson’s time through our own, The Cube and the Cathedral makes powerfully clear the self-destructive consequences of squandering one’s inheritance."
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 22, 2005 12:12 PM (x+5JB)
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ericj, if you follow the link you will find nowhere that I am against people swearing on the Koran. A liar will lie on whatever book you put in front of them. I just simply think it is hypocritical they fight Christianity symbols in the Court rooms but push Islam.
Posted by: Jay at August 22, 2005 07:02 PM (BKqRl)
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A muslim swearing on the koran that calls for the destruction of other religions. Good thinking Eric. All he needs is a fatwa from a bearded old uneducated goat herder saying its excusable.
Why use any book? What's the matter with I swear to tell the truth and I better not get caught lying?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 07:10 PM (OvTKg)
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Eric: If you can side with the ACLU. I can side with the Palestinians. Occasionally the Palestinians make sense. The ACLU never does.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 07:13 PM (CBNGy)
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Oh, that's rich. Swear on a book that clearly states that it's okay to lie to the infidel.
We're much better off simply saying we know if we get caught lying, then by the laws of this country, we're going to jail.
Posted by: Oyster at August 23, 2005 08:47 AM (fl6E1)
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Yeah Joan Beaz listen to this dim-bulb and listen to this other dim-bulb sheenan blather blather blather cluck cluck cluck
Posted by: sandpiper at August 23, 2005 07:57 PM (Suq7y)
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People
Keep on learnin'
Soldiers
Keep on Warrin'
Was in fact made famous by Stevie Wonder and then covered by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Not that I'm picking nits or anything.
Posted by: Dane Bramage at August 25, 2005 03:31 PM (5r7F+)
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August 17, 2005
Pakistani Family Honor
(Lahore, Pakistan) The son of Muhammad and Nazo Afzal, Asif, saw his sister, Sumera, in an intimate circumstance with cousin Zeeshan and became enraged. Asif suspected for a while that his sister was having an affair with cousin Zeeshan and, seeing them together, he decided to do something about it. Asif
grabbed a gun and shot Sumera in the head.
Sumera was rushed to the hospital, but couldn't be saved. Nazo and Zeeshan went to the police to register a case against Asif. It's not clear whether anything will happen to Asif for the murder. I haven't heard of many perpetrators of honor killings being punished in Pakistan.
Nevertheless, it appears that it's more honorable to have a murderer in the family than an lovemaker.
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... with COUSIN Zeeshan? First cousins are illegal even in Usa, as far as I know, so actually it appears (they think) its more honorable to have a murderer in the family than a sukurutsari, whatever the word is in English. In which case, if it truly was an affair leading to inbreeding, I agree a murderer is less shameful.
Posted by: A Finn at August 17, 2005 05:34 AM (cWMi4)
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Lol. Results from a "Which country would you delete if you could" in a very Finn-infected site.
Usa,Usa,America,Usa, etc. ,then someone said "Ok, you can't drop Usa, since they make a lot of games"
After: Sweden, Russia, Sweden, Sweden, Russia, then someone said "The games ain't that good, Japs and Brits make better" and again: Usa,Usa,America,Usa. Then someone said Finland and everyone after that: Sweden, Sweden, Sweden... (not difficult to guess it was a Swede).
My point is? ...ummm, spam? Ok, I got it:
Attitudes towards stuff are easy to swing when they are hate-based. Just takes a provided necessity or new target. (my presence is not for this purpose, even if some hateswings may have moved my way) It is actually the main population control method. "Don't hate us, hate those guys, since we're sending your kids and siblings to fight them / their economy is better and sucks all your money to supporting our collapsing one / they threaten our status as world police by uniting in a orderly fashion..."
Indeed, my post quality is awful nowadays. Probably because of a sudden loss of interrest in politics after I started reading blogs...
Posted by: A Finn at August 17, 2005 06:33 AM (cWMi4)
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Finn, first of all, you're an idiot, and you obviously enjoy being so. Second, almost everyone in the muslim world is married to their cousin. I know a Pakistani grocer who is married to his first cousin, and their parents were first cousins, as well as their grandparents. His wife told me how in the muslim world,(read: backward, tribal, primative), it's considered preferable to marry one's cousin, because that way no inter-clan or inter-tribal wars can erupt if the couple has an argument. Let me put it like this: They. Are. Primative. Savages.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 17, 2005 10:08 AM (0yYS2)
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Finn
That conversation which took place on the internet was made possible by the US who gave the internet to the world for free. I suppose we should have charged to keep out the rif raf.
BTW - Our games rock, so bite me.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 17, 2005 10:28 AM (jPCiN)
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Not to mention that Finn thinks murder is preferable to marrying a cousin. [sigh]
For the most part, if anyone is punished *at all* for an honor killing in many Muslim countries the punishment is light. I've read cases where they went to jail for two or three months.
Posted by: Oyster at August 17, 2005 10:32 AM (fl6E1)
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"Nevertheless, it appears that it's more honorable to have a murderer in the family than an lovemaker."
the islamic world needs a good dose of liberalism and feminism. Make love not war.
Posted by: actus at August 17, 2005 11:48 AM (nYnig)
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more here:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/08/whats-causing-muslim-nations-to-have.html
and here:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/08/muslim-demography-continued-polygamy.html
these recent posts of mune relate demogrphoic data to ilamic misogyny, polygamy, and "honot killings."
i conclude that: (a) if islam says it "honotable" to murder a female family member, OF COURSE they're gonna approve of murdering "infidels" (whuch includes many muslims!); and (b) that the misogynistic social customs of islam are apparent in all sorts of demographic data which demonstrate how pervasive the problem is.
Posted by: reliapundit at August 17, 2005 12:43 PM (eevsQ)
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Is it just my imagination, or did Finn used to make more sense in the old days?
Finn, have you been hanging around with some new friends this summer? Perhaps the kind of boys your mom and dad really donÂ’t want you to play with?
I hope you get back on track when school starts again. Once the first snows of September come, you should be up in your room studying like lst year.
Posted by: Brad at August 17, 2005 01:12 PM (3OPZt)
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A FINN did make more sense some time ago.
I told A FINN to quit taking those cheap Russian drugs months ago. He obviously didn't listen.
Who said they were 1st cousins? could they have been 2nd cousins? Some instruction in genetics and a stick would have achieved the same results.
She must have forced Zeeshan as he didn't get shot.
Just a reminder. Several years ago there was a case in the newspaper of a black man in Detroit on welfare that not only impregnated his daughter. but also his grand daughter. What happened? He was charged, given probation and increased the families welfare check. Does the A FINN solution apply here?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 17, 2005 05:45 PM (CBNGy)
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GreyRooster: Hmm... I think it does.
Brad: No, I'm not hanging out with loonies.
Defense Guy: Internet was built during the Cold War to make a connection network for your spies since the phones and satellites and such were spied on by the Soviets. So of course it was given for free, who would pay for another countrys spynetwork? And there was no way you could've kept it to yourself and monitored it, it got way too big way too fast... but that's not a bad thing, since now anyone in countries with no interrest in protecting foreign copyrights can get pointless entertainment in digital form, without the need to support it's creators with precious Euros/whatever, right after and sometimes before it's in stores or theaters.
Posted by: A Finn at August 18, 2005 05:17 AM (cWMi4)
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August 16, 2005
Tales Of Interest
Sorry for no blogging today. Here are some good links to follow sent to me by varioius self-promoters, blog pimps, and link whores.
Lodi terror suspect with ties to al Qaeda being deported. Unfortunately he's being deported to Pakistan. While we need one less radical imam, I'm not sure Pakistan needs one more.
Kurdish uprising against Syria. Go Kurds.
Jeff Goldstein is just a better blogger than me. Seriously. Just read this and especially this and you'll see what I mean.
Hirsi Ali, a hero to us all. (Thanks Ron)
Images from Japanese propaganda from WWII made to demoralize U.S. troops. NY Times editors reveal where they learned the craft.......
Washington Post drops sponsorship of 9/11 memorial walk for fear of the event being too political.
Q&A about new Marine Corps Special Ops Force. Kewl. (Thanks Carolyn)
The 9/11 Commission, Part 2 - Electric Boogaloo. In the future all sequels will be subtitled either Electric Bugaloo or Hunting Season, this time it's personal.
Keys to a liberal victory unveiled. Heh.
Camp Sheehan, sooooo boring.
Cindy Sheehan finally wins an award she's worthy of.
Cindy Sheehan divorce? Yup.
Carnival of Liberty VII is up.
Is the Executive Director of the ACLU the most dangerous liberal in America? I doubt it, but check it out anyway.
Bill Clinton: superhero with amazing superpowers!
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Thanks for the link, Dr. Rusty!
Just one question...
If I'm a link whore, does that make you my trick???
Posted by: Mr. Right at August 16, 2005 07:03 PM (NCdXf)
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My don't you join up for Round the Reader?
Posted by: Chris Short at August 16, 2005 09:41 PM (0OCQY)
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Thanks for the link. Your benevolence is kind and legendary.
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at August 16, 2005 10:07 PM (mrpxK)
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August 10, 2005
The Muslim Rock: Boogie to 'Put a bomb in your shoe ..dadada'
Rock out to the Muslim Rock at
this website (Be sure to turn up your volume):
Put a bomb in your shoe, lets put a bomb in your shoe, why don't you be a real cool Muslim fighter, and put a bomb in your shoe and blow awayaaa. Yeah, you'll get seventeen new virgins,at Muhammed's bordello in the sky, and you'll get wine women and song. So be a real cool Muslim fighter, but don't forget your lighter, and blow yourself awayaaa ... to Muhammed's bordello in the sky.
The content at the site is interesting, but it's the 'Muslim Rock' background music that I enjoyed the most.
I hope fellow bloggers and their readers will help to pass this around and add some perspective to this 'Muslim thing' that's become a dark plague on our planet. I'm fed up hearing about 'Islam' -I say enough already about this Islam sensitivity garbage!
Cross posted by Hyscience
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Real nice tune.
Oh, and thanx for the website, it's bookmarked.
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August 09, 2005
Tales of Interest! Brazilian Bikini Waxing Edition
Here's some interesting stuff sent to me this morning.
New intelligence indicates that Osama bin Laden may be headed to Iraq for Ramadan. I'm not buying it, but if it was true think of all the great caption-contest opportunities.
Brazil wanted da bomb? Duh! Of course they did. And by da bomb, I'm not talking about that chick from Ipanema.
The Carnival of Liberty is up. Check it out. The Carnival of The Liverated, too.
Is Saudi Arabia solidly on the way to reform? Maybe. John at Cross Roads of Arabia seems to think developments there warrant our attention.
Democrats new strategery: If you can't win, at least enjoy losing.
Germany's top magazine says the U.S. is doomed...DOOMED....DOOMED to playing second-fiddle to China. I seem to recall similar sentiments in the 1980s about Japan. Whatever happened to that inevetable Japanese juggernaut, anyway?
Go to hell, Cindy Sheehan. Indeed.
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Total number of items about Brazilian bikini waxing: zero.
Sigh.
Posted by: Jeff Harrell at August 09, 2005 02:25 PM (KZlQC)
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You rotten so-and-so.
No links to bikini waxed Brazilian tails?
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I just wanted to say, "thanks for the link, Dr. Rusty!"
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Pakistani Swaps Daughter for Election Win
(Islamabad, Pakistan) It's illegal to treat women and girls as property but it happens all the time.
From the Indo-Asian News Service:
A candidate in Pakistan's Northwestern Frontier Province gave away his 11-year-old daughter to his opponent in exchange for latter's withdrawal from next week' local elections, a news report said Sunday.
Daily Times quoted an unnamed election official as saying that Ajoon, a resident of Kohistan district, more than 120 km northwest of here, made the offer considering his opponent Vilayat Noor politically stronger.
The two men were the only candidates for the post of nazim, or chief administrator.
Ajoon also paid his opponent 200,000 rupees (about $3,300) to sweeten the deal.
This incident exemplifies the ineffectiveness of the national government in establishing and enforcing laws on remote regions of mountainous northern Pakistan. The thousand-year-old religious and societal customs endure despite legislative actions taken in the capitol of Islamabad.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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[Jake moves over to the Customers table]
Jake: How much for the little girl? The women? How much for the women?
Customer: What?
Jake: Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children!
Customer: Matre d'! Matre d'!
Posted by: Mumblix Grumph at August 09, 2005 04:08 AM (tS6IZ)
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I would ask what the man expects to do with his new 11 year old daughter/wife, but I suspect the answer would make me sick and then possibly violent, so I'm going to pretend he is taking her to Disney World.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:08 AM (jPCiN)
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So what? She's just tissue that's been born. Right Butch?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 09, 2005 09:20 AM (x+5JB)
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She's a possession. Like an embryo only larger.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:39 AM (jPCiN)
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It also explains why people don't want to return to the 6th century.
Posted by: bill at August 09, 2005 10:30 AM (QJhZY)
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Maybe she CHOSE this. It's all about choice, man. That makes it okay.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 09, 2005 10:56 AM (x+5JB)
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It's a cultural thing, and we know all cultures are equally good or bad.
Posted by: Carlos at August 09, 2005 11:14 AM (8e/V4)
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Thanks for this story. I posted it on Gates under the "I Could Scream" banner.
This kind of tribal, regressive, primitive "culture" isn't third world, it's fourth world. It's off in some sick zone by itself.
However, I did make the comparison between this and the NYT "background check" on the Supreme Court nominee's kids. I figure maybe they think he's going to offer one up to the Judicial Comm. to get his nomination on to the floor. Or maybe offer one to the DNC.
Posted by: dymphna at August 09, 2005 02:44 PM (5CPMc)
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Just a reminder, this girl is two years older than Aesyha was, when Mohammed the child molesting prophet consumated his marriage to her.
Long live Lorena Bobbit!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 09, 2005 03:41 PM (8sXP/)
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Mrs. Murphy(Aretha Franklin):"Well, what'll you two have?"
Elwood: "I'd like plain dry white toast, please, Ma'am."
Aretha: MmHmm.(as only women can do it...) And you?
Jake: I'd like one whole fried chicken. And a Coke.
Aretha: MmHmm. Lord....
(Back in the kitchen
"You ain't gonna beleive what these two white boys ordered. One ordered dry, white toast.
Matt 'guitar' Murphy: "Elwood!!!!!!"
Aretha: and the other one wants ONE, WHOLE, Fried Chicken....
Matt: "JAKE!!!" It's the Blues Brothers!!!!Damn!!!!
Aretha: "where you goin'"
That's such a great movie...
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Mrs. Murphy(Aretha Franklin):"Well, what'll you two have?"
Elwood: "I'd like plain dry white toast, please, Ma'am."
Aretha: MmHmm.(as only women can do it...) And you?
Jake: I'd like one whole fried chicken. And a Coke.
Aretha: MmHmm. Lord....
(Back in the kitchen
"You ain't gonna beleive what these two white boys ordered. One ordered dry, white toast.
Matt 'guitar' Murphy: "Elwood!!!!!!"
Aretha: and the other one wants ONE, WHOLE, Fried Chicken....
Matt: "JAKE!!!" It's the Blues Brothers!!!!Damn!!!!
Aretha: "where you goin'?"
That's such a great movie...
Posted by: Lonevoice at August 09, 2005 03:58 PM (TV0i8)
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No YBP, she is more then tissue once she has been born. I have
always said that once they are breathing, they have full rights
as all of us. I also do believe in choice over blind obedience.
The only time choice should not be involved is when it will harm
another living entity, and you know of course my definition of living.
But I would like to point out your hypocrisy. You are the one who goes on about "True Christians don't try to force their beliefs on to others", but not only are you trying to force you belief on to others, you want to make them law. But this just goes to show that
you are a true conservative, trying to enslave the rest of the
world with your views.
As for the Blues Brother movie, that was great.
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Butch, Butch, Butch: Why does the fact that someone has been born alter anything? Why aren't they fair game like unborn children? Why? What so sacred about "being born"? Isn't it Life that's sacred?
"But I would like to point out your hypocrisy. You are the one who goes on about "True Christians don't try to force their beliefs on to others", but not only are you trying to force you belief on to others, you want to make them law. But this just goes to show that
you are a true conservative, trying to enslave the rest of the
world with your views."
Forcing religious beliefs on someone would be like saying "You must attend THIS Church." Wanting to protect life is a little more basic than that. MANY religions condemn abortion, as did all civilized nations for thousands of years. Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right." We have laws to protect people who have been born. Is that a religious belief? Yes, but it's also common human decency. I want the same for the unborn.
Married? Let's say that you and your wife really wanted to start a family. If your wife, pregnant for one week with your offspring, were killed by a drunken driver, would you only be thinking that one life has been snuffed out?
What if she CHOSE to kill herself and the offspring because...just because. Would she have that right?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 11, 2005 03:15 PM (x+5JB)
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YBP, I do agree that life is sacred, and should be protected.
The point of disagreement between us is when does life begin.
That is why those who are born are no more fair game then you
or me. So for you to say that I condone the killing or enslaving of
children is purely 100% slander. I don't. As you can see from
my posts, I have never denied how I feel about "tissue" prior
to birth. So why are you lying about how I would feel about
a child after it has been born?
You are right that protecting human life is just plain common human
decency. And every government should make that their number one
goal. But once again, what is the definition of life. "The period
between birth and death.", maybe? As for "Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right."", people been having
one form of abortion or another for thousands of years. It is nothing
new. And since people have been having abortions for eons, that stands to reason that those people thought it was right. It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves. That has been done, and I heard is still sometime practice today. And making abortions illegal, is exactly forcing
your believes on to us, pro choicers. Why? Because we don't believe
what you.
And yes, I am married. If you missed the post, I am married
to a beautiful blonde bombshell from the Ukraine. And if she
died while she was expecting, I would consider it to be a tragedy,
but I would think of only one death. Even if she was 7 months pregnant, I would think to of it as 1 death. If it was you, would you buy 1 or two coffins, burial plots? What if your wife was pregnant, and she did something stupid, and had a miscarriage. Should she be charged with murder or manslaughter? Should all of these mothers be charged with injury to a child, if they are born with defects due to drugs or alcohol?
On the lighter side, if life begins with conception, does that
me I can retire in Feb of 2028 instead of Nov 2028 (age 65)?
But I hope you see that, we have no disagreement on the sanctity
of life after birth. We both agree that life from birth on is sacred.
Now we differ when it comes to the nine months prior to that birth.
And if you want to call me a "unborn mass murderer", that is fine
and dandy. But when you say that I believe a child who has been
born is nothing more then tissue, then you are committing a sin
and breaking a commandment, of thou shall not lie.
Posted by: Butch at August 11, 2005 04:40 PM (Gqhi9)
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I guess tissue is "fair game"
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Butch: "YBP, I do agree that life is sacred, and should be protected.
The point of disagreement between us is when does life begin."
Butch, even pro-abortion doctors agree that fetuses are alive!
"That is why those who are born are no more fair game then you
or me."
Ummmm???
"So for you to say that I condone the killing or enslaving of
children is purely 100% slander. I don't. As you can see from
my posts, I have never denied how I feel about "tissue" prior
to birth. So why are you lying about how I would feel about
a child after it has been born?"
Butch, again, what virtue does beeing being born bring about that so magically protects someone? What is it? Because a baby can eat and breath on its own? Babies are still dependent and need to be fed, no? What about babies on respirators?
"As for "Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right."", people been having one form of abortion or another for thousands of years. It is nothing new. And since people have been having abortions for eons, that stands to reason that those people thought it was right."
The fact that evil has been done is not justification for its legalization.
"It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves. That has been done, and I heard is still sometime practice today."
Bringing up another heinous practice #2 does not justify heinous practice #1.
"And making abortions illegal, is exactly forcing your believes on to us, pro choicers. Why? Because we don't believe what you."
But wouldn't any law that a person disagrees with be "forced" on him? Aren't some people who like to torture or kill animals "forced" to abandon such activities for the good of humanity?
"And yes, I am married. If you missed the post, I am married
to a beautiful blonde bombshell from the Ukraine. And if she
died while she was expecting, I would consider it to be a tragedy,
but I would think of only one death. Even if she was 7 months pregnant, I would think to of it as 1 death."
So lets's say you you were both looking forward to the birth of your son or daughter intwo months, had picked out the furniture, etc., and some nut runs at you while you are both strolling along and drop kicks your blonde bomshell in her very-pregnant looking stomach. She miscarries. The mother has no harm done to her own body. Are you saying that you would be content that the individual's crime be simple assault? He would get, say, some months in jail, or community service, and may have to pay a fine for a new dress for wifey. And that would be justice?
"If it was you, would you buy 1 or two coffins, burial plots?"
Two plots, Butch, one for each body.
"What if your wife was pregnant, and she did something stupid, and had a miscarriage. Should she be charged with murder or manslaughter?"
It depends on what the "mistake" is. Is it intentional? Then yes.
"Should all of these mothers be charged with injury to a child, if they are born with defects due to drugs or alcohol?"
Yes! Aren't they already?!
"On the lighter side, if life begins with conception, does that
me I can retire in Feb of 2028 instead of Nov 2028 (age 65)?"
You have my permission, Butch. At least, having not been aborted, you have the opportunity to retire at all.
Brad: I just sneezed. Please pass a baby, er, a tissue.
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Here ya go YBP, I have one left.
ItÂ’s 7 months old, from the Ukraine and has blond hair, blue eye and a beating heart. No good for anything but blowing your nose.
“It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves”
Butch 2005
Just goes to show that you can find comedy just about anywhere.
Btw, I have some friends who have the last name of Wolf.
If these people came over to my house, would you say “The Wolves are here, or The Wolf’s are here?”
Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 10:03 AM (6mUkl)
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YBP, the difference between being born and pre birth,
is the same difference between an acorn and an oak tree.
The acorn is not a tree. It is a potential tree. If you
had a picture of an acorn, a car, a dog, a tree, and girl,
and asked people on the street how many trees are in this
pictures, guess what your answer will be? One. Have you
ever heard of the "Miracle of Birth", well the miracle of birth
is that a new human being is in this world.
Once again, that is "YOUR" opinion that abortion is evil. But it
is not the opinion of everyone. Besides evil can defined differently
from religion to religion. That is why I say that it is up to the
individual and God to decide what is evil. But is Society that must
decide what is legal.
But had I not experience the miracle of birth and had been aborted,
I would not have to worry about retirement, because I would never,
and I do mean never, not 1 month, 2 month what ever, existed. Then
again, maybe my soul would just be waiting for the next available body
to be "BORN".
But since you and Brad do not have any honesty or integrity
about my posts, and since this blog is getting farther and farther
down the list, I will just leave off on this one, and let you two
lie about me as you will.
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Brad: FYI--Sale today at Costco in the paper on big 4-packs of babies, er tissue.
The plural of the name "Wolf" is "Wolfs" without the apostrophe.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 12:18 PM (x+5JB)
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I think we have moved on. They are now acorns.
Terrible story about those wolves, must be what makes Barbara Boxer so passionate about getting the little guys first.
Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 12:31 PM (3OPZt)
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Brad: "I think we have moved on. They are now acorns."
Yes! And we musn't forget that "From little acorns grow mighty oaks." - Eugene O'Mahony
"Terrible story about those wolves, must be what makes Barbara Boxer so passionate about getting the little guys first."
That's it. Concern for the tissue getting all chewed up by the poor hungry wolves, and the resulting indigestion.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 12:46 PM (x+5JB)
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We always take a back seat to these amimal rights wackos!
Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 12:52 PM (3OPZt)
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Brad: Not to sound like a WOLF, but I have a brown bombshell from Minnesota. What color bombshell do you have?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 02:02 PM (x+5JB)
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I have an Irish bombshell born in LA to an Air Force Dentist, who moved to WA after getting out. Married 17 years last March.
Our friends the….Wolfs, frequently come over unannounced as their daughter has soccer practice Tues/Thus from 6/8 at a field far to close to our home. When the mom comes over to use our bathroom and get a glass of wine during our dinner, I always announce “The Wolves are here”. It was funny the first time.
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Brad: "When the mom comes over to use our bathroom and get a glass of wine during our dinner..."
Someone needs to send her an Emily Post etiquette book.
Hey, congrats on your long marriage. We Catholics have the right idea, eh?
Give my regards to your Irish bombshell.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 03:54 PM (x+5JB)
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Thanks, IÂ’ll give her your best.
Ya, when divorce is not an option, ya just stay married.
Re the Wolf, I think the Emily Post book would bounce off her head.
Have a good weekend.
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Don't you just love it when the only defense of a position is to use the words: enslave, slave, nazi, kkk.
Sounds like Mike Tyson after getting knocked on his ass the 20th time. The slave master did it. If he didn't it must have be Bush.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 12, 2005 10:58 PM (CBNGy)
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Young Bourbon Professional trying to ENSLAVE the world. Ha. Ha. That's rich. And then he says "stop lying about me". Ha, Ha.
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Greyrooster: Alas, yes, I have been outed by Butch. I will henceforth be known as "The Enslaver"--a terrible tyrant who has the audacity to want it illegal for babies to have their brains sucked out by abortionists.
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It was FOUR (4) fried chickens and a coke!
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August 08, 2005
So Long, and Thanks for All The Nukes: Religion of Peace Update
Today's visual is brought to you by Emperor Misha I. If he gets a fatwa before me there will be hell to pay!
Today's thought: Are you a victim of propaganda? Ask yourself this question: Who did we fight in WWII? If you answered the Nazis, you are a victim of propaganda. Remember, there were no Nazi armies. There were German armies. By distinguishing between good German soldiers and bad Nazis, Americans were able to reconcile themselves with our new found West German allies in the midst of the Cold War imperitive. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Tatooine:
It looks like the Board of Directors of The al-Qaeda Organization in The Land of Two Rivers, Inc., might be looking to replace current CEO and Chief Head Chopper, Abu Musab al Zarqawi. (Hat tip: Flopping Aces)
Wait, you mean there might be a Saudi connection to the London bombings? I find that awfully hard to believe. Probably a Zionist disinformation plot.
*Shocking* news: Al Qaeda magazine published openly in Turkey.
London conspirators indicted and extradited. Do they have bitches in British prisons?
Q: What qualifications do you need to run a ministry in a corrupt Gulf country?
A: See here.
Who needs to nuke Mecca when the Saudis seem intent on destroying it themselves?
Netanyahu quits over Gaza Pullout. I thought pulling out was only a sin in Catholocism, but not Judaism?
Are oppressed Iranian bloggers trying to take out oppressive Iranian judges? Now this is the kind of vigilantiasm I can support.
Dhimmis:
George Galloway, jackass? Yeah, but traitor is a more accurate word.
The Savior Sect issues fatwa saying it's o.k. for terrorists to be welfare recipients.
Treason? Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Bitches! From today's news it seems we may have to remove the UK from our list of dhimmi countires.
The French are not as dhimmifide as they act. The French may have actually found the winning strategy. I'm not kidding. They act like dhimmis in public, but domestically crack down on Islamists in such a way that would make the ACLU cringe. And remember, the French equivelant of the CIA has a domestic arm and police power.
Domestic Dhimmis & Stuff:
Peter Jennings is dead, and Mike King scooped the MSM by more than a day. Too many links to keep track of. Let me just say this on behalf of Jennings: Born Canadian, died American.
Stop the ACLU notes that the Florida Supreme Court has a scheme for taxpayer support of the ACLU.
Mmmmm, fried chicken tastes better at a PETA protest.
Since I'm 1/16th Native-American, I can't be racist. Right? PS-I'm not Cherokee, but I wish I was.
Blog Propaganda:
Althouse & McArdle I can understand, but not you Totten. Say it isn't so? Sellout. (super-secret message to Totten: Babe-pics + Puppy-blender = Mucho-grande linkage)
Blogfather Charles Johnson vs. former University of Colorado President Elizabeth Hoffman. Charles wins in first round.
Hawkins is late to figure out that Hot Chicks (even fictional ones) + Pics + Blogging = Hits. On a related note, Witty Sex Kitten has retired from blogging, but Alexa, the vixen behind A New York City Escort's Confessions is back, er, blogging that is. (hat tip: Rob Port)
This weeks RINO sightings are up at Searchlight Crusade.
Gaijin Biker has a new site and now has trackbacks and other useful thingies. Remember, if you are a blogger you need trackbacks. Trackbacks get you attention and tie you into the community. Unless you are a hot chick that blogs naked they are essential tool for succesful blogging.
Q: What do Bea Arthur, Luke Skywalker, and Phin have in common?
A: Llama Butchers.
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Thanks Rusty but I feel somewhat better knowing there is someone else to still get your dirty kicks from. And I'm terribly sorry that pyramid sex scheme of yours won't work out either. Have to get your 1/3 crazy blog money elsewhere.
Posted by: Wittysexkitten at August 08, 2005 11:35 AM (o2lkH)
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Thanks for the link Rusty.
Posted by: Jay at August 08, 2005 11:47 AM (BKqRl)
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Holy cow so many links so little time.
Posted by: Howie at August 08, 2005 02:09 PM (D3+20)
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Thanks for the linkie, stinky.
Posted by: Jane at August 08, 2005 03:46 PM (ywZa8)
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Just picking nits here, but the casual perusal of a map would suggest that Yemen--the country that Jane was blogging about--is not actually on the Persian/Arabian Gulf. Other than places like, say Mississippi and Alabama, Texas or Florida, the only "Gulf" countries generally are those on said Persian/Arabian Gulf.
Perhaps "Arabian Peninsula" would have worked better.
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August 02, 2005
On 'The Road Through Syria to Jihad in Iraq' - And Elsewhere
Kevin Kohlman posts on a new guide published on the Internet, in which an alleged former resident of the Iraqi-Syrian border region has
explained in detail for potential foreign fighter recruits how they can enter Iraq and join in the jihad by traveling through neighboring Syria. According to "Al-Muhajir al-Islami", foreign jihadists should travel to the eastern Syrian city of Dayr al-Zawr: "it is recommended to enter the city using a car and do not carry large sums of money. If anyone asks, say you are here on a vacation and have come to go fishing in the Euphrates—therefore, bring some fishing equipment and another person with you so you won’t look suspicious." Recruits are also advised to avoid consulting government-sponsored Muslim clerics in local mosques and only to "approach the Salafist youths" outside of mosques and beyond the prying eyes of Syrian intelligence.
Iraq's interior minister, Bayan Jabr, recently told The Associated Press (if we can believe what they write as being even remotely accurate) in an exclusive interview that Iraq's neighbors — especially Syria and Jordan — must take stronger measures to stem the flow of militants and money for the insurgency from their territory into Iraq, and said he had pictures and addresses of insurgents in Syria. Notably, he said that, "It is not important to capture or not capture al-Zarqawi, the problem is not to let al-Zarqawi get more followers."
And just who are these followers Byan Jabar refers to and what drives them? The answer tells us much of what we're up against in the West, and how dangerous a threat an 'Islam gone amuck' can be!
Those "Salafist youths" referred to by the "alleged former resident of the Iraqi-Syrian border region" in Kevin's post, and others like them around the world, are younger followers of the same belief that drives Usama Bin Ladin and other Islamist terrorist leaders, a belief that draws upon a long tradition of extreme intolerance within one stream of Islam (a minority tradition but fastly becoming more mainstream), from at least Ibn Taimiyyah, through the founders of Wahhabism, through the Muslim Brotherhood, to Sayyid Qutb. Sayyid Qutb eschewed islah (reform) in favour of violent overthrowing of existing political systems, and it is this "political salafism" that has been adopted by terrorist groups and that the free world must defeat.
In its authoritative report on the tragedy of 11th September 2001, the the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States (the 9-11 Commission) summarises the threat from salafist(Islamist) terrorism in Chapter 12 at page 363 in these words:
(...) The catastrophic threat at this moment in history is more specific. It is the threat posed by Islamist terrorism—especially the al Qaeda network, its affiliates, and its ideology.
(...) That stream is motivated by religion and does not distinguish politics from religion, thus distorting both. It is further fed by grievances stressed by Bin Ladin and widely felt throughout the Muslim world—against the U.S. military presence in the Middle East, policies perceived as anti-Arab and anti-Muslim, and support of Israel. Bin Ladin and Islamist terrorists mean exactly what they say: to them America is the font of all evil, the “head of the snake,” and it must be converted or destroyed.
(...) It is not a position with which Americans can bargain or negotiate. With it there is no common ground — not even respect for life — on which to begin a dialogue. It can only be destroyed or utterly isolated (emphasis mine).
Just as with Iraq and expressed so appropriately by it's interior minister, Bayan Jabr, we in the West must stop the flow of potential terrorist into our countries, but we must also identify, kill or capture those already here, and remembering one of the few things that the 9/11 Commission got right, "that there can be no dialogue with these people, they can only be destroyed or utterly isolated," we have no options but to go after the Islamists, the followers of the perversion called Salifism, wherever they are, and capture or kill all of them and all of those that support them. We must bring a halt to right vs. left bickering, and get on the same train to securing the continuence of our civilization and culture.
As a post script, I borrow from the same chapter of the 9/11 Commission Report that the above excerpts are drawn from:
Tolerance, the rule of law, political and economic openness, the extension of greater opportunities to women—these cures must come from within Muslim societies themselves(emphasis mine). The United States must support such developments. But this process is likely to be measured in decades, not years. It is a process that will be violently opposed by Islamist terrorist organizations, both inside Muslim countries and in attacks on the United States and other Western nations. The United States finds itself caught up in a clash within a civilization.
To which I add, and also
a clash between civilizations. Thank you Islam, for bringing this dark deadly cloud to the face of our planet! (sic)
Sources and related reading:
Salafist (Islamist) Ideology
Saudi influences in the Netherlands. Links between the Salafist mission, radicalisation processes and Islamic terrorism.
Iraqi Insurgency Groups
9-11 Commission Report
"Islam, the West, and the World"
Muslim Brotherhood - Egypt
Other coverage - Security Watchtower
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Oh yeah some good reading there. Lots of info to cram into my tiny brain.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2005 03:46 PM (D3+20)
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If Tom Cruise isn't busy, maybe he can give then a primer on Scientology?
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August 01, 2005
Religion of Peace(sic) Update - Some Of Today's 'Islamic Terror' - related Activities Around The World
First of all, a visual reminder of the Islamic agenda - courtesy of the AP and CBS (
blogstorm needed), although their intention was
to promote the Islamization of America, not to make us Islamo-aware (info and image
previously posted).
[Image from an AP/CBS article on a phoney fatwa by terrorist supporting Islamists]
Chad at InTheBullPen provides us a very good reminder that, contrary to moonbatism, the Islamofascists were busy at trying to convert the world to Islam through violent jihad, long before Iraq. Read Chad's Bin Laden Funded Jakarta Attack; Iraq as a ‘Cause’ a Shift in Tactics? While at InTheBullPen, Chad also has a piece on Osama Bin Laden directing terrorist attacks within Saudi Arabia that provides us another little reminder that the 'religion of peace(sic)' is more about world domination and politics than theology and spiritual inspiration.
The LA Times has news that some senior authorities say there is enough anecdotal evidence to warrant concern, and suggest that whatever radicalized the British bombers could presumably also motivate Americans who have embraced Islamic extremist views expressed on websites and chat rooms, in radical mosques and elsewhere. (so when is this news and when have we had any doubts about terror cells in the U.S.? )
Victor Comras has a piece at TheCounterterrorism Blog on the funding of Iraqi insurgents coming from wealthy private donors in the Middle East and elsewhere, as well as former elements of Saddam Hussein's Baathist regime. Apparently, some experts speculated at the time of the first Gulf War that Saddam had over $5 billion stashed away in addition to the $5 billion Iraqi assets located at that time. Since then, Saddam and his cronies may have raked in more than $7-10 billion through various schemes, kickbacks, extortions, and other illicit methods. The oil for food scams were only one such source of SaddamÂ’s money. And very little of this money has yet been accounted for. (in other words, the insurgency is well funded, it's leaders are well protected in Syria, and the killing isn't going away anytime soon unless we can dry up the funds and bring a halt to Syria's participation in the terror in Iraq, and, you better believe it - elsewhere as well!)
The TimesOnline.com (UK) offers up the good news that over the past fortnight Israeli intelligence agents have noticed something distinctly odd happening on the internet - one by one, Al-QaedaÂ’s affiliated websites have vanished until only a handful remain. (Oh heck, how could that be? Must be those pesky 'British Intelligence' folks!)
"Someone has cut the line of communication between the spiritual leaders(now that's a sick as hell connotation - since when is there anything 'spiritual' about murder and mayhem?) of international terrorism and their supporters." Apparently, since 9/11 the websites have been the main links to disseminate propaganda and information to Islamofascists around the world.
The News.Telegraph tells us that Scotland Yard is investigating evidence that the two waves of terrorist attacks on London this month may have been masterminded from Saudi Arabia. (Seems as though we;ve been down this road before.)
The News.telegraph.com also provides a handy "London terror factfile" for a review of most of the happenings related to the London attacks.
Sky News reports that London police are still on high alert amid fears that a third terrorist cell could be plotting another strike on the capital. Thousands of officers are on the streets and guarding Tube and overland rail stations as the huge security operation continues. (As with the Lodi case in the U.S., we're barely seeing the tip of the iceberg relative to the number of potential terrorists and existing cells in Britain)
In the Middle East Times we see that Iraqi women are split over how great a role Islam should play in the new constitution, currently being drafted in parliament, with some fearing "a return to the Dark Ages". An early draft of the constitution published in the local Al Sabah newspaper on Tuesday made clear that Islam is to be "the official religion of the State" and "the main source of legislation".
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Apparently Iraq's women are split over Sharia becoming the law in Iraq, and wouldn't be too happy about this becoming the dress code for women. I wonder how well this would go over with American women?)The text of the document is supported by the conservative Shia majority in Iraq's parliament, and reads "No law that contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam may be enacted." But it's still up for discussion by a parliamentary committee and subject to revision. The parliamentary speaker, Hajim Al Hasani, has made it clear that he doesn't believe that it means the rule of Sharia, or Islamic law, and has said that he thinks there's an agreement [in parliament] that they should not include Sharia in the constitution." Luckily for the women, he says that "There are different interpretations of Sharia law," so "why open that door"? (But many of the women want no part of even thinking about sharia, and if that's coming from Muslim women, we all better think a little harder about that Islamic agenda we keep hearing about and work together a lot harder to prevent the AP/CBS's new flag for America becoming a reality!)
In what I consider the MUST READ of the day, there's an opinion piece in The Middle East Times by Youssef M. Ibrahima, former Middle East correspondent for The New York Times, energy editor of the Wall Street Journal, and managing director of the Dubai-based Strategic Energy Investment Group, entitled "The Muslim Mind Is On Fire."
(...) The world of Islam is on fire. Indeed, the Muslim mind is on fire. Above all, the West is now ready to take both of them on.
(...) The only accomplishment of jihadis is that now they have aroused the great "Western Tiger". There was a time when the United States and Europe welcomed Arab and Muslim immigrants, visitors and students, with open arms. London even allowed all dissidents escaping their countries to preach against those countries under the guise of political refugees.
(...) Well, that is all over now. Time has become for the big Western vengeance.
The most important message to both the Islamists AND the naysayer moonbats in the West, particularly the members of the KOS-set, comes in Ibrahima's closing in which he writes:
I fear those naïve Muslims who think that they are beating the West have now achieved their worst crime of all. The West is now going to war against not only Muslims, but also, sadly, Islam as a religion.
In this new cold and hot war, car bombs and suicide bombers here and there will be no match for the arsenal that those Westerners are putting together - an arsenal of laws, intelligence pooling, surveillance by satellites, armies of special forces and indeed, allies inside the Arab world who are tired of having their lives disrupted by demented so-called jihadis or those bearded preachers who, under the guise of preaching, do little to teach and much to ignite the fire, those who know little about Islam and nothing about humanity.
To recap, from 'us Westerners' the Islamists face an arsenal of laws, intelligence pooling, surveillance by satellites, armies of special forces and indeed, allies inside the Arab world who are tired of having their lives disrupted by demented so-called jihadis or those bearded preachers who, under the guise of preaching, do little to teach and much to ignite the fire, those who know little about Islam and nothing about humanity.
So isn't time that we get on with it? Maybe I should re-phrase that with - LETS GET IT ON! It's time to light up a heck of a lot more than the Muslim mind. It's time to shut down mosques with jihadi-preaching imams, profile people likely to commit acts of terror - not little old ladies and the like, stop allowing Islamic immigrants in the country and kick the ones that are here and have doubtful ambitions - out of the country to their country of origin, shut down our borders tighter than Fort Knox, stalk terrorists and kill them wherever they are, seek out terrorist sancturaries and destroy them, shut down terrorist funding and make the act a life sentence, let Syria and Iran know in no uncertain terms that if they don't stop supporting terrorism and the Iraqi insurgency - they're next, and most of all, somehow convince the Democrats that our lives depend on us working together and that they should think less like a moonbat and more like an American.
Cross posted by Hyscience
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Islamocognition - Thanks to the muslims who quote the qu'ran, while commiting atrocities in the name of Allah, the world is gaining an awareness of islam's violent history and declared expansionist goals.
/The image of the islamic American flag is nauseating and offensive to me.
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 01, 2005 03:21 PM (LNA9X)
Posted by: Howie at August 01, 2005 04:14 PM (D3+20)
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Every man who supports sharia should have a bhurka stuck in their face and be forced to wear it for a year.
Posted by: Ren at August 01, 2005 05:13 PM (a9tRx)
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This story was linked in the comments section of blackfive, it is about a Malaysian he is being persecuted for Apostasy, I guess it does not pay to turn your back on Islam in a country dominated by it.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/1/nation/11646196&sec=nation
Posted by: dave at August 01, 2005 05:38 PM (DO6vD)
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good article by the WSJ guy. thanks for posting that.
Posted by: Mr. K at August 01, 2005 05:47 PM (VudXl)
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If the Jihadis get what they want they might be surprised (or better not even that).
A fraction of the waepons arsenal of the west can eliminate the muslim world in a matter of a few hours. If they really look to become martyrers that might be the easiest thing to help them go to hell ....aehh... heaven.
Posted by: Werner at August 01, 2005 11:58 PM (WI0gy)
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The hardest part will be convinceing the democrats not to act like moonbats.
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