(Sanaa, Yemen) There are 57 countries represented in the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) which meets regularly to discuss solidarity and mutual interests. Yesterday, the organization met, opening with a statement by Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu. Salient points include:

Honourable Ministers,

In the face of the intensification of Islamophobia in the West, I have seen it as a duty to launch a campaign against this detestable phenomenon, and We have approached the United Nations Human Rights Committee in Geneva in this connection. We succeeded to have the Committee adopt a resolution prohibiting defamation of religions, in particular Islam, as well as linking it with terrorism. We also took the campaign to the United Nations General Assembly asking it to make efforts in this regard. In the same vein, we went to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, and managed to convince it to place the matter in its agenda and admitted that defamation of Islam has become a fundamental challenge in the field of human rights in Europe.

Since the enlargement of the Security Council has become a pressing issue in the agenda of the United Nations, we have made extensive efforts in concert with the Islamic Group at the United Nations in New York to ensure a permanent representation for the Muslim world in the Security Council. For the Muslim world, that is one fifth of the world's population, cannot remain excluded from the activities of the Security Council which assumes a fundamental role in keeping security and peace in the world.

Interestingly, the 'Islamophobia' that the Secretary-General discussed was also addressed recently by Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar at a seminar on Islam and international politics in Kuala Lumpur. It's notable that in neither speech was there a hint that Islamophobia is the direct result of actions by the followers of Islam. All dialogue regarding Islamophobia ignores terrorism, Wahabism, Sharia law, honor killings, and the lack of freedom and democracy while pointing to a perception problem among Western nations that must be prohibited. A campaign to outlaw Islamophobia has been launched. No mention has been made about the possibility that Islamophobia is a perception with a sound basis.

At the same time, the Secretary-General demands a "permanent representation for the Islamic world on the UN Security Council." No specific countries, however, were identified as candidates for the permanent seat.

It's encouraging that the people of Islam recognize and are concerned that they are seen negatively by the West. However, my take is that no rules or laws will ever impact the level of Islamophobia as long as the Muslim world views terrorism as an integral aspect of diplomacy. It also seems illogical to award a permanent seat on the Security Council to any country that silently, without condemnation, accepts terrorism as a substitute for statesmanship.

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Well the president will give us all a pep talk tonight. I would encourage everyone to watch for those who don't or can't I'll try to post a transcript in the morning. While it may not be as good as say a Clinton or Reagan speech the President has gotten a bit better. Since we are at war I think we should at least give Mr. Bush our attention.

Also see this Stars & Stripes article on training of soldiers in Iraq. The interesting part is that pay scale for Iraqi soldiers in the window with the article. I think we should consider ways to improve the pay as it makes bribery by the other side awful cheap.

The looser in the Iranian election rails against that country's ruling clerics. Watch your head dude.

Our brave Marines start another offensive in Western Iraq.

As always you should look for other sources, argue like crazy, post links and have a good time ladies and gentlemen. I have not had a lot of time to search for other links. And remember while the President and our government can start a war, make strategy, give us pep talks he is powerless to win the war. The power to win the war rests with all of us, especially men and women like this. Now comes the hardest part, just keeping it up.

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Thanks to Eric at Vince aut Morire for e-mailing me the logo to the right, which was designed by Patrick at Clarity and Resolve.

Is it me or has the entire Leftosphere forgotten that a majority of them opposed the war in Afghanistan? Personally, I think that KKKarl Rove was wrong when he said liberals:

saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.

Unfortunately, a large part of the Left blogosphere is made up of Chomskyites who say they are liberals, when actually they are far to the left of most of the Democratic party. They are no more liberals than I am a conservative. They are Leftists, or to use their own lingo, they are Progressives.

Anyway, it's the Religion of Peace Update--featuring the dhimmis on the left.

Duncan Black lied, soldiers died, er, or something like that.

Who is funding the insurgency? Leftists in Europe!

Jihad, jihad, everywhere. Either the terro-zombies are spreading, or our partners in the GWOT are finally getting serious.

Taliban sets fire to girls school (via Charles Johnson)

Pakistan sponsored terrorists blow up bus. Our allies at work.

Iranians vote in democratic election today. Can choose between guy who wants to oppress pretty much everyone in the world and kill heretics and another guy who just wants to oppress Persians and put heretics in jail.

Hey, they found the Koran I desecrated! I guess my plan worked.

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New motto for The Jawa Report, thanks to Professor Chaos and Thomas Mann:

Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.

Via the New Editor (thanks for link Basil) we learn that al Qaeda has finally been able to convince a few native Iraqis to blow themselves up for Allah and for 72 Virgins. Evan Kohlmann has a translation of the communique.

Sept. 11th co-sonspirator acquitted in Germany, deported--will either be rearrested and thrown in real gulag as he gets off the plane, or will return to jihadi brothers to kill infidels.

Is the U.S. at fault for suicide bombings? Yes, says one newspaper. Is there any bad thing in the world that can't be blamed on the U.S?

Yes, every detainee at Gitmo has had a hearing. This is why I love Michelle Malkin. And here is a Nazi-Gitmo analogy that actually works. Because of the hypocrisy.....

Did Pol Pot have one of these signs in the killing fields???

Sir George finds a photo of the latest effort by Syria to keep terrorists out of Iraq. Apparently they hired the US Border Patrol to build it.

It's like Tom Clancy is a modern prophet or something: Drug money used to blow up Jews. Columbia may be doing their part to end this, but the PA certainly isn't. I have a novel idea, why don't we legalize drugs and put these guys out of business?

Dhimmis in the Academy: An organization that claims to speak for me defends an accused terrorists right to indoctrinate your children.

Dhimmis eating Vegamite: Australians put Christians on trial for telling the truth about that child molester and mass-murderer Muhammed.

If this is a consular ship, then where is the Ambassador? Al Qaeda not rolling out red carpet for new U.S. Ambassador.

Christopher Hitchens is a Jawa Reader: The Downing Street Memo and the Conspiracy Theories of the Moonbat Left (via QandO)

Leftards are idiots. Nuff said.

An interview with Thomas Lippman of The Middle East Institute on his recent visit to Saudi Arabia.

Boo-hoo: Islamaphobia.

Non-Religion of Peace:

Save our State to rally againts Mexican fascist landmark in Baldwin Park, CA--my old digs.

Brain Dead woman being kept alive to save baby, no comment from NARAL.

The only reference to Jennifer Wilbanks you'll ever see at the Jawa. Click here.

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For the last year burning your wife and daughter alive in an honor killing has been illegal in Pakistan. Hey, at least it's illegal.........

What's white and red and kills while surrendering? French suicide bomber.

Most suicide bombers in Iraq NOT French.

And now we pause for this musical interlude. Brought to you by Suicidal Tendencies

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming

Spain arrests 5 more misunderstanderers of the Religion of Peace.

New terms set for Gitmo detainees. Heh.

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Syria?? Letting people finance terrorism??? Are you sure we're talking about the same Syria here????

Coming soon to NBC Wednesday nights: Rafsanjani Based on the stand up comedy of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. Don't miss the pilot where Rafsanjani's quirky neighbor, Achmed, loses the 'master of his domain' bet and gets his hand chopped off.

UPDATE: e-mail a terrorist!! Click here to e-mail site owner of The Official Jihad Support Group.

UPDATE II: Preston has the funny, even if that pic is a little, you know, G-A-Y...

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There was an election in Iran yesterday, or what passes for an election in a country that proclaims my toilet paper (the Quran) to be the highest law of the land. Persians were asked to vote either for hard line Mullahs who want severe oppression or moderate Mullahs who only want a moderate amount of oppression. Either way, the fatwas are to keep on a rolling against every one and everything (but me!). What type of drugs do you have to be on to describe Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani as a reformist or a moderate when the guy supports terrorism and a Jew free Middle East?

Oh, and check this out from Will Franklin who almost gets himself arrested for attempting to report on the Iranian elections in Houston. Yes, a nation that we have no formal diplomatic ties to and which is a state sponsor of terrorism was allowed to run polling places on U.S. soil. Gateway Pundit reports on a polling station in St. Louis and Publius Pundit from another location.

Check out what the grandson of Ayatollah Khomeini says to Christopher Hitchens:

I stand," he tells me calmly, "for the complete separation of religion and the state." In terms that would make the heart of a neocon soar like a hawk, he goes on to praise President Bush's State of the Union speech, to warn that the mullahs cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons, and to use the term "Free World" without irony: "Only the Free World, led by America, can bring democracy to Iran."

Zawahiri crawls out of his cave to announce to the world his NAMBLA membership will be renewed.

The Taliban didn't get that memo from Howard Dean in which they directed to lay down their arms and give us no more problems since the U.N. approved that invasion and is in charge of rebuilding there. Yup, their still at it and have taken 18 police hostage.

The lunatics in the Arab world are at it again: Zarqawi is an American agent.

Hi, I'm Bono and I didn't know all that Muslims took that stoning shit seriously.

KG over at the California Mafia notices that one of the men arrested in the Lodi al Qaeda ring was seen at a 9/11 peace service. Not strange at all if one knows about the Islamic practice of taqiyah, or permissible lying. It also could be explained by the fact that many radical Muslims do believe in world peace and unity. Remember Darth Vader's dreams were of peace and order for the galaxy--which could only be insured by a heavy handed tyranny. So to many MUslims believe that once Islam dominates the world then love, peace, and joy. The utopian caliphate is the long-term strategic goal of al Qaeda and other Salafist groups.

And would it shock you to find out that the head of The Islamic Center of El Paso was taken into custody for an 'administrative immigration violations'?? Remember, 'lying about belonging to a terrorist organization' is not the same as 'belonging to a terrorist organization'......

In Yemen 11 al Qaeda terrorists were just sprung by an appeals court. This is the place where the USS Cole was attacked and is an 'ally' in the GWOT.

Two jihadis in Michigan to be sentenced and a grad student at The University of Arkansas arrested for his plans to do exactly what Edward Said, Noam Chomsky, and a majority of his professor's rhetoric (if believed) compelled him to do--become a Jew killing terrorist.

Cassandra, over at Villainous Company, has decided that terror is not the enemy, but ignorance, and has put the MSM in the crosshairs.

John from Crossroads of Arabia notes that some in Saudi Arabia are looking to Iraq as a success story.

The guys over at Move America Forward have started an I Heart Gitmo campaign. I love it. Slap that bumper sticker on and where this t-shirt to your next poli sci class....

A former gulag prisoner speaks out against Amnesty International, Dick Durbin, and the idiots of the Left drawing comparisons to gitmo.

Durbin sort of apologizes, but not really......CENSURE NOW!! Speaking of, a new alliance has formed called Blogs for Censure. Needless to say, I'm a charter member.

Confederate Yankee on Dick Durbin alienating the dead vote. (SFW: no gay porn in post)

Lileks is, well, Lileks.

Dave Burge, known to the rank-and-file as Iowahawk, is back and he has found some of the personal correspondence of Dick Durbin.

Cameron has penned a poem in Dick's honor.

And for the definitive last word on Durbin, you have to see Cox and Forkum.

John Conyers (Moonbat-MI).

Let the analogies to the Greek gods killing their Titan parents begin. Blog-son Dan Riehl is set to be on Fox News tonight. If you are interested in the you-know-who missing in Aruba case you'll do no better than checking in with Dan over at Riehl World View or with Red and Tom over at Scared Monkeys. These two blogs consistently beat the MSM to breaking news in Aruba.

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Michael Jackson. Three Iraqis arrested in Germany for supporting terror groups. Michael Jackson. 20 bodies found near Baghdad, murdered execution style. Michael Jackson. PA refuses to disarm Hamas. Michael Jackson. Possible terrorist arrested in New York City. Michael Jackson. Al Qaeda supported by Yemen government. Michael Jackson. Oh so ronery dictator of North Korea helping Iran develop it's 'peaceful' use of nukes by building missile bunkers. Michael Jackson. Terrorists now planning on using babies for bombs (no objection from Planned Parenthood). Michael Jackson. Exiled Italian author Oriana Fallaci is targetted. Michael Jackson. Muslim Brotherhood schools in the U.S. praised by MSM. Michael Jackson. British memo claims no decision for war against Iraq made by Bush. Michael Jackson. On the potential for political compromise in Iraq. Michael Jackson. French sold cell phone hacking codes to Saddam Hussein. Michael Jackson. Terrorists murder 20 more (no duct tape yet reported). Michael Jackson. Four U.S. soldiers wounded in Afghanistan. Michael Jackson. King of Saudi Arabia sued in British court by estranged wife. Michael Jackson. NY Times: Dhimmis to the end.

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(London) Yes, it happened. Queen Elizabeth bestowed knighthood on a Muslim. I don't know if there have been others, but I'd surely like to see a photo of the new British Muslim Knight, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, standing between his brothers of the realm, Sir Elton John and Sir Mick Jagger, arguably two people who warped past infidel status decades ago.

The freshly-minted Muslim Knight is said to be in favor of a law "to create an offence (sic) of incitement to religious hatred." I'm not sure if that means he's for or against religious hatred. The Religion of Peace hasn't been all that clear on the subject in recent years.

Note that when a Muslim places a sword next to the neck of an infidel, it's a beheading, but when an infidel places a sword next to the neck of a Muslim, it's a bestowing. The difference between Islam and anything else is not strictly philosophical.

What are the chances that the King of Islam will make the Queen a mullah? Or a mufti?

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Natalee Holloway. Syria has hit list of Lebanese politicians. Natalee Holloway. Pakistan court orders 12 freed in 'honor' gang-rape. Natalee Holloway. Founder of Ansar al-Islam praises bin Laden in Norway. Natalee Holloway. Mother of rape victim may have helped 'honor' rapists. Natalee Holloway. Genocide in Zimbabwe. Natalee Holloway. Al Qaeda being helped by Iran. Natalee Holloway. 5 Marines killed in Iraq. Natalee Holloway. 'Moderate' Muslims call for death penalty for all who defame that child rapists and goat-f*cker Muhammed. Natalee Holloway. Saudis hold woman as slave in Colorado. Natalee Holloway. Two more Marines killed by terrorists breaking Geneva convention in Iraq. Natalee Holloway. Darfur genocide continues as peace talks stall. Natalee Holloway. Coup rumors in the Philippines while misunderstanderers of the ROP call for unification of church and state in South. Natalee Holloway. Ansar al-Sunnah murders Iraqi General. Natalee Holloway. Hamas won't give up weapons, will continue to murder children. Natalee Holloway. Muslim victims of violence in Bosnia again (but by more 'righteouss' Muslims). Natalee Holloway. As predicted, Muslims and their leftist allies already seething over proposal that NATO help end genocide in Sudan. Natalee Holloway. Los Alamos whistleblower getting beat up in order to intimidate him looks phony. Natalee Holloway. Nazi sex dolls discovered. Natalee Holloway. A history of the world (with commentary). Natalee Holloway. A big 'amen' from Michelle Malkin. Natalee Holloway. And Try Jackson. Natalee Holloway. And La Shawn Barber. Natalee Holloway. Oh, and me, like a week ago.

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1 So some Redneck bint gets all pissy drunk, sucks some dutch boy's egg roll and he kills her. Who the F- cares. There are more important things than the murder of some whore.

Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 11, 2005 01:55 PM (cgKSA)

2 I 'care' about it, in the sense that it's tragic, but it's a local story at best. This OUGHT to be the lead at her local paper and on her local 6 p.m. news, but look at all that other crap that's going on in the world, gettin NO coverage.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 11, 2005 02:03 PM (JQjhA)

3 so what are the google hits looking like right about now?

Posted by: Editor at June 11, 2005 02:20 PM (WUwLB)

4 LOL. Nada. Google is sensitive to older posts. By the time they even track this post it will be old news.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 11, 2005 02:23 PM (JQjhA)

5 Yeah. It'll be a week or more. How often do the Google bots come by?

Posted by: Oyster at June 11, 2005 09:33 PM (YudAC)

6 Why don't you google "Filthy Allah" and see what you find. Something about a dull sensation?

Posted by: filthy allah at June 11, 2005 10:06 PM (cgKSA)

7 Since I have friends who work for google, I'll tell you that the faster you have hyperlinks to other sites (even within a post) the faster it will be ranked higher. You probably know this already, right Rusty?

Posted by: osamabinchimpin' at June 11, 2005 10:21 PM (Byu/j)

8 Don't know about you fellows but, Tom Cruise is freakin me out with this Scientology bullshit. Katie Holmes? She is a fukin robot now. Who is next????????

Posted by: Obsnooks at June 11, 2005 10:49 PM (cgKSA)

9 Why couldn't those guys in Aruba rape a US soldier and leave that poor girl alone?

Posted by: me@myhouse.com at June 12, 2005 01:11 AM (MzODK)

10 Malkin was right! Holloway. You nailed it! Holloway. You Go Girl! (I notice some comments about gOOgle bots. Guantanamo Bay. I ain't a geek. Guantanamo Bay. I do remember reading that you may be able to take advantage of them by placing items where google is supposed to ignore them but doesn't. Guantanamo Bay. Kinda like reverse techology™ .) Keep up the Good Work Rusty! Koran desecration. You're doing a hell of a job!

Posted by: Afleet Alex Agit Prop at June 12, 2005 10:51 AM (HWzB0)

11 Damn fine post Rusty. Kudos on getting Malkin to link to you.... I had one last week....she even responded to my email with a promise to link to my story....alas....damn terrorist father and son out in Lodi....stole the spotlight from my little hope for fame.... Am I bitter about it.....what would make you as that? :->

Posted by: WunderKraut at June 12, 2005 11:21 AM (yCPeP)

12 "Why couldn't those guys in Aruba rape a US soldier and leave that poor girl alone?" Greg, is that you? Sounds stuid enough to be, but a little better articulated. Regardless though, the absence of any words containing more than three syllables identifies this troll-post as a dyed in the wool America-hating liberal dhimmi. Welcome to the forum, have some proverbial butt lube, and prepare to get verbally used like a prison-bitch.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 12, 2005 03:53 PM (0yYS2)

13 Natalee Holloway thats all well and Natalee Holloway good, but do you Natalee Holloway have any updates Natalee Holloway on the story the Natalee Holloway whole world is Natalee Holloway focused on? Natalee Holloway what Natalee Holloway about Natalee Holloway poor Natalee Holloway Natalee Holloway?

Posted by: Jonathan at June 13, 2005 03:48 PM (M7kiy)

14 What about the Jacko verdict??? Anyone surprised he got off? Wow, OJ, MJ, both sped away in SUV's...one white one, one black one. still goes to show ya that if you're black and have the green, you cam still come out snow white.

Posted by: Laura at June 13, 2005 07:53 PM (L3PPO)

15 you people are full of shit and disrespectful. (well, some of you anyway.) i'm sorry natalee's story is taking over the world right now--trust me, it makes me sick as well, but moreso in the sense that people like you have the opportunity to scrutinize and speculate--but that's the media's fault, not hers, not ours. calling her a "whore" and a "redneck bint" implies that you're taking out your neurotic frustrations on HER and not the media. ironically, not only does it make you look ignorant, it makes you look like more of a god damn redneck yourself.

Posted by: db at June 13, 2005 09:56 PM (lmbmG)

16 Wow, I'm really disappointed. My fellow Americans are being disrespectful to Natalee Holloway. I really feel sorry for her and her family. Who knows what happened to her, but whatever happened shouldn't have happened. I think I'll be taking a little trip to Aruba sometime in the future. I'm not talking today, I'm talking 5-10-20 years down the road. I'll go there and find this little bitch boy named Joran (what kind of girly name is this anyways?) and murder him with my bare hands. How does this sound? Show them not to fuck with our people.

Posted by: murda187 at June 14, 2005 09:41 PM (VFqI8)

17 NOONE CARES BOUT THIS WHORE. GET OFF MY NEWS!!!! FUCK THA BITCH!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SADISTIK RECORDZ at June 15, 2005 07:16 PM (5lqm4)

18 Hey "Sadistik Recordz"... Fuck YOU, you worthless piece of shit. I pray to God that Natalee is either found of rests now in piece. I pray that the murderers are nailed and that they burn in eternal hell. Dash Riprock

Posted by: Dash Riprock at June 18, 2005 09:35 PM (d8BBx)

19 to Sadistik Recordz, I am a citizen of Aruba and proud of it! Comments like this can only come from a heavily disturbed mind like yours. I am sure you have no children. No one deserves to go trough this agony (not Natalee nor her parents) By the way, hasnt your doctor told you not to mix the blue pills with the pink ones or else they will take you back again in that funny white jacket with your hands tight in the back!

Posted by: NaTi at June 20, 2005 01:37 PM (PxYc6)

20 As sorry as I am for Natalee and her parents I do think this story is getting WAY to much coverage. You know how many tourists go missing in the US? Trust me, lots of 'em. Do you ever hear about them on the news? Nope. Why? Because they're not americans? BTW, Joran is a dutch name, being dutch, I don't think there's anything strange or girly about it...

Posted by: mezza at June 23, 2005 01:07 PM (8Xjhb)

21 This makes me sick to reads what you mindless fucks have to say about someone you never met! Natalee is a whore???? She deserved it???? It's her parents fault??? the schools??? you fuckers are insane!!! I never have heard of this web site before, but it seems to me that it is a right wing crack pot site. All of us rational americans know how you SHEEPLE are (no that isnt a typo...your all sheep)You sick fucks are all about tyrany just like that evil fuck Bush. I can only hope that you people someday go through what Natalee most likely did or what her friends and family are going through now. You all make me want to puke. But hey, it people like you that give America a bad name.

Posted by: Rich at June 26, 2005 06:25 AM (xtkbs)

22 i am a dutch citizen and proud on it to. why do you inflate evrything like this?? that texas ``search and rescue team`` why do they thing that they would find her?? are they special or something?? i think they are just some arrogant citizen which think ``oh we will do this inside a day or something like that`` the don`t even know te area. i think the aruban police and the dutch marine know the area much better than those americans things. they dont know where to look and how to look. mabey they are specialist for searching in america but not for searching in the Netherlands Antilles. so i said what i want to said. (iedereen schijt op NAC)

Posted by: kaaskop at June 29, 2005 06:15 AM (93tGI)

23 Why do Americans think that this kind of things don't happen in America? I see a lot of people react very negatively on Aruba and The Netherlands. How hypocrite!!! America is the most dangerous country in the world, take for instance a city like Baltimore, it's about the same size like Rotterdam in The Netherlands. Baltimore has in one year more than twice as many murders as we have in the whole country. We have somewhere around 140 murders a year, how dare you to point a finger to our justice system!!! Our drugs and alcohol law may be very liberal but we keep our people alive. Now it went wrong with an American girl and I even read a comment from a person who wanted to start an airstrike and take Aruba from the dutch. Please first solve the problems in your own sick country before you say those nasty things about us!

Posted by: wesley at July 02, 2005 07:52 AM (8Rxp0)

24 our concerns and hopes for Natalee should not be distracted from how much media coverage Natalee is getting. Filthy comments about Natalee should be kept to oneself. Weather it is American, Dutch, or what ever Nationbality we should all see the same. A girl, a spirit, another human soul has come to some foul deed. Can we not all come together long enough as mankind to wish for hope for another. Can we not wish hope for all who are missing? Where is the conscious of man that we can cast aside any one as meaningless. I cry for mankind and for those that have sank so low as to not care.

Posted by: powerman at July 09, 2005 05:54 AM (VX9Fn)

25 who gave any of you the right to say Natalee deserved any of this? There are a few people who deserve to die, I mean really deserve it. But as far as Natalee, do any of you know her? Can any of you even come close to feeling what her family is feeling right now? NO, YOU CAN'T!!! The best thing for us all right now is to pray to our father that if she is dead, that she hopefully did not suffer too much, (as we all know she most likely did suffer). We also need to pray for the recovery of her body to bring closure for her family and friends. Just sit back and think about this being your sister, daughter, cousin, or best friend in the whole world. You know this person inside and out. You know what hurts her feelings, what kind of personality she has (let's say she is very kind, caring, loving and giving, and very affectionate), would you want her to have to go through some horiffic tragedy? Would you want YOUR OWN family member to go through something like that? Wouldn't you want your family member's face all over the T.V? I would, and i think the reason Natalees is all over the T.V is because of her family. They keep her publicized in case someone does remember something, or something is found to help find her. I do know that i would do all i could to find my child. I would want to have the remains of my child to put to rest if that were the case. The whole idea is Closure, and Prosecution. That would keep me searching the rest of my life for those 2 reasons...If you have negative opinions on an innocent girl that you DON'T KNOW, then keep them to yourself. We want to hear positive things in our country. Maybe all you rude negative people should go live in some other country that didn't give a rat's butt about anyone other than themselves. We are in America, and it would be a better place without your kind in it.

Posted by: anamerican at July 20, 2005 11:27 AM (gJRX3)

26 how do you know that she is innocent?? do/did you know her?

Posted by: kaaskop at July 21, 2005 05:54 AM (93tGI)

27 NO, I DID NOT KNOW HER!!! But just cuz we don't know her, it does not justify calling her names and blaming her for a tragedy that may have happened to her. Come on, get real. Put yourself in her families position. Wouldn't you want to find her knowing that the odds of finding her alive is slim to none? I would. Right now, we don't know what to think, being that so many people try to disappear, but the facts are too coincidential to even think that she is alive. And if this is some sort of disappearing act, i will be on here apologizing to all of you, but until then I am with her family on this one. And, as far as the volunteers that are trying to help find her, I am proud of them. Where else other than America do citizens offer to help others in a time of need? DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE?

Posted by: anamerican at July 21, 2005 02:57 PM (V0oht)

28 yes i help in france white a search to a missing girl on a camping. al kind of national people where helping DUTCH france germany belgium and spain. so don`t say that ONLY amirika helpt. the only difrint between Europe and amirika is we dont inflate evrything like that natalee holloway stuf. and some people say now that aruba is dangerous place. but in amirika is it al lot more dangerous than in whole europe. only the city baltimore have more murders than whole Holland.

Posted by: kaaskop at July 22, 2005 12:52 AM (93tGI)

29 Kaaskop, I am glad to hear that you helped out in a search for a missing girl. You should know what it is like for a missing person's family not knowing where they are or if they are alive. That should shed some light on the Natalee case. Yes it is broadcasted a lot, but if it were my child, it would be even bigger than this just because i would make sure to make all states and small communities aware that i am missing my child and i want everyone to know that i want to find my child and i need anyone and everyone's help to find her and until i do find my child, i am going to do whatever it takes to find her and if it takes me the rest of my life, then let it because i would not stop until i found her dead or alive. Just because i would need that closure. Don't get me wrong, i am not putting you down for any of this, i just want you to open your eyes and see what most of us do see. Do you understand? Also, if America was such a terribly dangerous place, why are all these people from other countries dying to come over here? This is a place of freedom. We love eachother here. Just because we have small percentage of idiots and ass holes here, don't mean that we are all that way. The same for your country, and every other country. No matter where you are, there is always going to be that certain group, or person that makes life hell for the rest of us. There is no place on earth that doesn't have some ass in it that has to hurt innocent bystanders, and make us all sad. Anyway, no hard feelings, k?

Posted by: anamerican at July 22, 2005 09:48 AM (ND9mv)

30 It is interesting to note the anger in the messages of those that pitch hateful messages. If such things written offend you, remind yourself that it means you are healthy. And as long as there are people on this planet, there will always be those that hurt others. Count yourself lucky that you are not one of the angry hateful people. Nothing good ever came out of anger, and much good came out of organized focused action. So lets get focused and REPORT THIS SITE TO YOUR LOCAL AUTHORITIES, AND THE HOSTING ISP. This will shut this site down, and SILENCE THE IGNORAMUS.

Posted by: CantbelievetheHatersinthisworld at July 23, 2005 04:23 PM (oQARt)

31 i cant believe this web page it makes me sick to know how many sick people are in this country the reason this natalee case is on the news is to inform you that this girl is mising so people can keep a look out for her and so poeple will know and this happen in every country alot of arubans are throwing up it happens in us more well there 50 times more people here of course we have higher crim but it happen there too and it happens every where we need to work together to find the texas team went there eo aid in the search not because they thought they knew the area better man people quit worrying about what people are saying and help bring this girl home

Posted by: Lisa at July 23, 2005 05:43 PM (0wf6c)

32 I think what "ANAMERICAN" said makes a lot of sense. I don't think he/she was trying to belittle anyone or put down any country. I think he/she was trying to make a point. I don't think any of you who responded quite understood. I think anamerican was trying to tell you that they are happy that there are people that come together in times of need, especially a need like this. So, why don't we all come together and pray for Natalee and all of those who are missing, and who have been missing. The power of prayer is amazing. Why don't we all make peace.

Posted by: justsomeonewhocares at July 25, 2005 10:13 AM (RLbra)

33 Here is something on Natalee I thought you all might want to hear. it does shed some light on what some of you see. I found this on google today. By gbd Mon Jul 4th, 2005 at 09:52:39 AM EST Does the name "Natalee Holloway" ring a bell? If you follow the news media in the United States, particular the 24-hour cable stations, it certainly ought to. On the other hand, if you've been living in a cave for the past month or so, here are the highlights: Natalee Holloway is an 18 year-old girl from Alabama who vanished on May 30th from the island of Aruba, where she was vacationing with some of her classmates to celebrate their high school graduation. Based on the amount of coverage that this story has received from the national media (Fox News in particular), one must draw the conclusion that this is a Very Important Issue, and that all Americans should care very deeply and personally about it. I must confess that I do not. Now, before I get called a heartless bastard, let me hasten to point out that I agree that this story is tragic. Natalee's family and friends have doubtless been going through hell during this past month. I do hope that she can be recovered safe and sound, though that possibility seems very remote at this point. If I were the King of the World, I would snap my fingers and instantly transport every missing person back to the safety of their families. But what makes Natalee Holloway more important than, say, Reyna Alvarado-Carerra? In the United States alone, more than a million people are reported missing each year. The majority of these cases involve minors. The majority of those cases are runaways, but there are also significant numbers of abductions at the hands of both relatives and strangers. This brings us to the case of Reyna Gabriella Alvarado-Carerra. Have you ever heard of her? I certainly hadn't until I started doing research for this story. Reyna is a 13 year-old Hispanic girl who is believed to have been abducted by a stranger in Norcross, Georgia. She was abducted just a few weeks before Holloway. A Google search on her name yields a grand total of 6 results. The same search for "Natalee Holloway" turns up 276,000 results. But Natalee doesn't just get more Google search results. She's getting airtime, baby. As I mentioned in the intro, American news outlets are awash with a veritable cornucopia of Natalee fever. She also gets assistance from the Dutch Marines and special agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who apparently already have enough resources at work battling mundane things like terrorism. Here's the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, and the reason I am writing this treatise: CNN is now reporting that Holland is sending three F-16 warplanes to assist in the search for Natalee. I was given pause by thinking about the sheer cost of this endeavor. My brother-in-law is a recruiter for the Air National Guard, and I have a rough idea of how much money it costs to even get one of those things off of the ground. How much do you suppose is being spent to equip these planes with the special search equipment and then actually get them to Aruba? The disproportionate response of Aruban, Dutch, and American authorities to the disappearance of this girl can only be attributed to the disproportionate amount of media coverage. CNN, MSNBC, and (especially) Fox News feature hourly updates on the status of the investigation. They interview family members, law enforcement personnel, and representatives of the Aruban government. The case even features prominently on right-wing talk radio shows, such as the Sean Hannity Show and Bill O'Reilly's Radio Factor. This is perhaps the most interesting aspect of the coverage: What could possibly be political about this case? Why would Hannity and O'Reilly be interested in taking away airtime from discussions about the immorality of Democrats and spend it on Natalee Holloway instead? I can guess, and will spend the next couple of paragraphs doing so. This is mere speculation on my part; you have been warned. The initial Fox News coverage of the story was pretty transparent, particularly on O'Reilly's show. The incident was portrayed as a lesson: "See, this is what happens when you vacation outside of America in nations with swarthy peoples." Initially, two former security guards were arrested in connection with the disappearance. O'Reilly called these two men "slugs" and lamented the fact that Aruba does not have a death penalty that they could be threatened with. Of course, it later turned out that the two had nothing to do with the abduction, and they were released. (As far as I've seen, there was no retraction or apology from O'Reilly, a man who constantly reminds us that he does not "engage in speculation" on his show.) Things changed when the focus of the investigation shifted to 17 year-old Dutch boy Joran van der Sloot. Since the new culprit was now Whitey, the initial political spin was invalidated. Fox briefly attempted to make the story into an argument for the juvenile death penalty (even going so far as referring to van der Sloot as a "17 year-old Dutch man.") This fizzled, however, and the current focus of the coverage, at least on Fox, is the supposed ineptitude of Aruban law enforcement. O'Reilly's new favorite pastime is lambasting the Aruban authorities for not giving the media enough information about the case and for not having recovered her body yet. This despite the fact that it took over a year to find the body of Chandra Levy (and Washington, D.C. is smaller than Aruba.) But I digress; I would be doing a grave disservice to suggest that the other news networks have been handling this story responsibly. The coverage at places like CNN and MSNBC has been less political but certainly no less pervasive. Stories of actual importance to the daily lives of Americans are routinely ignored in favor of the latest non-updates in the Holloway case. (To be fair, however, the Holloway case is far from the only non-news that is being reported; my life is not particularly affected by shark bites to Austrians who are vacationing in Florida.) Here are some things that you may have missed over the past couple of weeks if you rely on American television news for your daily dose of information: * The Chinese government is looking to buy Unocal, an American oil company * NASA has fired a "robotic bullet" at a comet to help study cometary makeup and origins * Kurdish guerillas bombed two trains in Turkey, increasing tensions between that nation and northern Iraq * Spain has legalized gay marriage These are just a few examples. But hey, we're getting our Natalee fix, right? It would probably be impossible to figure out how many millions of dollars are being spent on the effort to find Natalee Holloway. But I'll wager it would be relatively trivial to determine how much money and effort is expended on a typical abducted person case. So if you've reserved a few moments out of your day to send your thoughts or prayers to the family of Natalee Holloway, you might want to do the same to the family of Reyna Alvarado-Carerra. Does it make me a bad American if I just don't care about Natalee Holloway (above and beyond the general concern expressed at the beginning of this story?) Is the life and death of one teenager worth more than another on the basis of her socioeconomic status? Is America, as a nation, well-served by a news media that is more concerned with infotainment than it is with information? And if you think that the Natalee Holloway case is something that in any shape or form deserves my hourly attention, could you explain why? I wish I could say that I care, but I just can't.

Posted by: justsomeonewhoishere at July 26, 2005 10:19 AM (mle63)

34 Help stop the media blitz surrounding Natalee Holloway's disappearance! She's not that important! http://ForgetNatalee.8m.com

Posted by: James Newt Thoreau at July 29, 2005 10:45 AM (Gbam5)

35 Natalie Holloway Media Circus goes on! And I’m just sick of it!!! Though Natalee’s mom, Beth Holloway Twitty, is understandably driven by grief, she is manipulating the media, indulging in intrusive outward demonstrations, such as imposing her “Hope for Natalee” bracelets upon all resigned Arubans within camera range; plastering posters all over the place even inside what appears to be the foyer of a private home in Aruba; walking all about Aruba, stopping unsuspecting strangers, and interrupting children at play, asking them if they know about Natalee,’s whereabouts as if they would really know; then shown sitting demurely amongst her daughter’s belongings in the same hotel room that was Natalee’s; walking around the house, and showing us Natalee’s room, back in her her home in Alabama; all in front of the “ubiquitous” camera following her relentlessly! Making of all it, a ratings driven, “News TV Reality Show,” specially on Fox! Most Arubans, understandably, endure all these “made for TV” demonstrations, with condescending smiles, and copious amounts of courtesy, but no amount of courtesy can dull the sparkle in their eyes betraying their feelings of “can you believe this lady?” Now, after over sixty days of Natalee’s disappearance, in a new media publicity blitz, Natalee’s parents are offering a million dollar reward for information leading to her “safe” return, while only one hundred thousand dollars are being offered for information leading to her whereabouts (the recovery of her remains). I would suppose, it was rather more difficult to get the backing from donors for the one hundred thousand dollar reward, than for the million dollar one. Fat chance that one will be collected! What is really sad, is that this tragedy could have easily been averted. A bit of common sense, and parental discretion, would have gone a long way in avoiding this incident from ever happening. Beth Holloway Twitty’s decision to unleash her daughter (no matter how level-headed, trustworthy, and deserving she thought she was, which apparently she wasn’t; and, or how much she may have wanted to join her classmates) into this Aruban “Girls Gone Wild” environment fraught with alcohol, readily available drugs, and plentiful gonads, with little or no supervision, was an accident waiting to happen at best, aside from any foul play. That she would have died in a car accident because a Kalpoe, or Van Der Sloot, drunk, and or on drugs, would have slammed their car into a light post thereby killing her, would not have made this less of a tragedy, which is the result of bad judgement, firstly on the part of Beth, for letting her daughter go, and secondly on the part of Natalee, for getting in a car with three young men she barely knew. What was she expecting of them, to play patty cake with her??? In the weeks previous to the London terrorist attacks all that could be seen on the news media, and specially on Fox News, was about Aruba and the many spins on Natalee’s disappearance, at the expense of other news. Natalee Holloway’s countenance, must be the single most recognized visage in history! Her senior class picture flashing incessantly, day after day, from TV screens, computer monitors, and print media, in our collective faces. But why stop the intrusiveness there? I can almost picture her on the face of a US commemorative postage stamp! And if her face could not launch a thousand ships, at least it managed to launch three F-16s. I was hoping after the London bombings, and the media’s attention had been diverted to the events unfolding there, that Natalee’s disappearance would have been put in perspective by the media, and quietly relegated to a back burner, only to be revisited when any significant developments had taken place as the on-going investigation unfolds, but I was wrong. On Fox, The O’Reilly Factor touches on the subject at least twice each night. Hannity and Colmes on average, devotes three segments of their show to Aruba nightly, with the consequent interview of several members of Natalee’s family, redundant interviews of reporters with nothing new to add to the known facts, and with sundry Aruban officials, local lawyers, search team members, etc, etc, all of them, again, spinning on conjectures, hear-says, and possible scenarios, but with no new facts to add to the case. And Greta, the official Natalee Holloway news hour show, is back “On the Aruba with Greta Van Susteren Der Sloot” (forgive the very appropiate pun), with bigger helpings of all of the above!. As a result, I don’t even wait to see what is coming up on Greta, but just switch the channel! I watch all this in disbelief! What sense is there in repeatedly having interviews with Beth Holloway Twitty, “Jughead” Twitty, and several different family members (the Aunt has been a fixture on Hannity & Colmes lately) on the same show, on the same day, asking them all the same questions, to which they all, unequivocally, make the same answers, day after day, after day??? The only members of Natalee’s family the media has not interviewed so far, are the family pets, and I’m not even so sure on that one (have to check the programming on Animal Planet)! While all of this ‘Natalee Holloway / Aruba” coverage is taking place, there have been terrorist attacks taking place in London, Turkey, and Russia; Marines are getting killed in unprecedented numbers in Iraq; Bolton has been Appointed Ambassador to the UN; Judge Roberts is being further scrutinized by the Dems; the Six Party Talks about North Korean nukes seems to be stalling, China, and Russia. announce joint military exercises, and new sales of arms to China by the Russians, and even, ironically, forty other, young American men, and women, who have gone missing in Nuevo Laredo, right across the border, many of whom are feared victims of kidnapping, are still missing amidst the atmosphere of lawlessness prevalent in that Mexican town, and no one seems to be doing anything about it! And while all this is going on, we have to sit through endless hours of Natalee home movies, showing her twirling her baton in some High School event!!! How come are the news outlets lavishing all this unfettered barrage of media attention, and air time, to the coverage of the disappearance of just this one young woman? Ratings! Ratings, and just darn ratings! They have turned a “tragedy” into “News Infotainment” to satisfy the insatiable morbid appetite of the public. Again, other events are taking place around the world, many of which will affect all our lives, shouldn’t the media be focusing on them at this juncture, rather than on Natalee Holloway, and Aruba? And if, God forbid, her disappearance remains unsolved, for how long will we have to endure this never-ending Natalee Holloway coverage? When is enough Natalee Holloway coverage, enough? Apparently there is no end in sight!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 05, 2005 10:58 AM (6mUkl)

36 Have you heard of Tamika Houston? No? What about Brenda Y. Cisneros? Think not! These are just two, of the many young , beautiful, American, girls still missing, here in the US, and abroad, whose disappearance, have received little if any media attention, while a veritable deluge of excessive coverage (specially on Fox, and CNN) has been gushing forth from the media, day after day, over the Natalee Holloway disappearance in Aruba. So, when yesterday, Josh Mankiewicz, of Dateline, on NBC, broached the “why” of this disparity, I was elated to finally see one of the major news outlets, drop the blinders, and have the “cojones” to deal with the implications of this on-going Natalee Holloway media frenzy, and the fuels that fire it! Don’t the parents of these other missing young people deserve the same coverage, and attention to their plight from the media, the politicians, and the bloggers, that Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee’s mom, has gotten? Apparently not!!! The way the Natalee Holloway disappearance has been covered by the media, is a slap in the face to all the parents of missing children, who lack the resources, or the savvy, or the connections, to just put their lives on hold, get on the next airplane to go search for their child, and pester local officials; visit with willing legislators that want to be part of the “media event” in front of the camera; or sit with “News Show” celebrities, like Greta, tete’ a tete’ every night, night, after night, feeding the ratings, and the public’s insatiable appetite for the morbid, in exchange for attention! I say KUDOS to Josh Mankiewicz, the producers of Dateline, and NBC!!! It was high time, that someone in the media would question its motives, and exercised some integrity, professionalism, and objectivity in balancing out the exorbitant barrage of coverage, lavished on the Natalee / Aruba media fiasco, vs. that given to other missing persons, as well as to other news and developments, taking place around the world, of greater import and consequence to us all, which they have neglected to focus on, because of it! Now, if only Fox, and CNN would follow suit!

Posted by: Althor at August 06, 2005 01:59 PM (6mUkl)

37 PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE, Just change the channel. This a FREE country and no one is forcing anyone to watch any news about Natalee. GET OVER IT ALREADY! YOU Sound just like little jealous siblings. "Natalee is getting more attention....., Natalee got to go to ARUBA and I didn't......If I went missing, I wouldn't get that kind of attention......Just because she has blond hair............" Good grief, you sound just like kindergardeners who aren't getting just as much attention as she is getting........ YOU do and you know you do. Fox watcher suggests you change the station. GET A LIFE! FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO BITCH ABOUT!

Posted by: fox watcher at August 07, 2005 08:05 PM (MrUCT)

38 The comments of "Fox Watcher" show the self-centered typical reaction, of the type of morbid TV viewers, who are fueling this media circus frenzy phenomenom concerning Natalee Holloway's disappearance: "You don't like it? It's a free country, change the channel!!! So who cares about the nuclear threat posed by Iran, and North Korea? Who cares who gets Nominated to the Supreme Court? We "Fox Watchers" care about what happened to Natalee, and want 24/7 news coverage of it (hashing, and rehashing the same stale news and old rumors, over, and over...), and the world be damned!!!" I have been a loyal Fox viewer for years. I do have a life(unlike those that devote their entire day to the dissapearance of this girl, who is no more, nor less than any other missing girl, and who most likely brought whatever happened to her upon herself), but like to keep well informed of national,and international, news and developments, and do tune in every day (or I used to before all of this media circus fiasco) to see "The O'Reilly Factor", "Hannity & Colmes", and "On the Record", not for "entertainment," but to be "informed." Of course the Lacy Peterson dissapearance, and subsequent Scott Peterson trial were given plenty of air time on Fox, so was the Michael Jackson child molestation trial circus too, so was the "Runaway Bride" incident in Georgia, and many others. But nothing, nothing, compares to the pervasisve, intrusive, sensationalistic, over-the-top, barrage of coverage given day, after day, after day, not only on Fox, but on other networks, to the dissapearance of Natalee Holloway, at the expense of other news, and developments, taking place around the world that will have greater influence over all of our lives, than the disappearance of this one insignificant girl! I am caucasian. I have brown hair, and green eyes. To imply, "Fox Viewer", that "...because she's white, and blonde..." (was blonde... past tense most likely; and if the information being bandied about is correct, a "peroxide blonde" at that, though her behavior, as in going off in a car drunk with three strange men, would have been typical of the vacuaty of thought attributed by "Folk Wisdom" to real blondes!)I, or other people, "...are jealous of the attention given to her" is racist slandering, ludicrous, and shows your mentality! I, at this point could care less, if they ever find her, and or the case remains unresolved. The only reason I "bitch", and have posted my opinions here, is not because I have nothing better to do (like I imagine most of those following the Natalee "Informrcials" on Fox are at this junction) but to protest, and bring awareness, about this irresponsible, and exorbitant, use by the media of precious air-time, lavished on this one girl, at the expense of keeping us, the rest of the nation, in the dark about more important, and pressing matters! Read the several newspaper reports! Even Bill O'Reilly euphemistcally dismissed such reports as "ridiculous" on today's "Most Ridiculous Item of the Day" segment of his show, and attributed the current lower ratings numbers claimed for Fox they reflect, as the result of "his" having been on vacation during last month (Bill, always so humble!). But in fact, the truth of the matter is, that Fox's ratings have dropped in the 8 M - 10 M EST time slot! Apparently I'm not the only one that is fed up with this (expletive) Natalee Holloway/Aruba bullshit, and watching Beth Holloway Twitty playing her "Drama Queen" performances day, after day... all throughout the two hour time slot (Fox even advertised it as such today) of "Hannity & Colmes", and "On The Record". Seems there are other serious-minded viewers, who are as disgusted, as I am, of all the excess, and banality surrounding this case, and yes, "Fox Viewer" (better take notes Fox News), we are changing the channels!!! If you want more Natalee Holloway / Aruba coverage "Fox Viewer", go move in with Beth Holloway and "Jughead" Twitty. They have an extra room now, and I'm sure Beth would be delighted to have you, to talk you to death about her precious, missing, little daughter as she does in front of the cameras; but please, let the rest of us get on with our lives!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 09, 2005 01:49 AM (6mUkl)

39 Wow, so much jealousy and hate, bias and prejudice. For those that find it unfair that socio-economic factors may enter into the interest of Natalie Holloway, think of the people that have gotten away with brutal murders or years of pediphilia and molestation just because of their popularity and money. Double standards is nothing new. Besides if Natalee dissapeared in America the story wouldn't be so big, because we'd be more apprised of the investigation. It's more about the weird investigation proceedures, the secrecy, and the possible cover up due to the WHITE fathers connections that creates the interest people, not Natalees pretty blond hair.

Posted by: Person at August 10, 2005 06:56 PM (gCHx4)

40 Wow "Person"! So now this is all about "so much jealousy and hate...", and "Natalee's affluence, and pretty blonde hair" (which by the way was “peroxide blonde”, since her natural hair color was light brown), as if we have not been incessantly bombarded enough by the media 24/7 about Natalee's disappearance (specially on the cable networks) at the expense of other more crucial news, while ignoring, as well, the disappearance (some of which have taken place during this same two month period) of other young, beautiful, American girls who are also missing, and who deserve as much attention???? Most of us who are fed up with the story, are so, because we believe the media has crossed the line of propriety, and objectivity, on lavishing so much unwarranted attention on this girl, specially in light of the scant "hard" facts, and few significant developments in the case, which do not call for two, and three, hours of endless interviews, and discussions on prime time news shows every night; all of them hashing, and rehashing the same stale old facts, rumors , and hearsay, at the expense, for example, of news about the nuclear threat from North Korea (which may very well deteriorate into a nuclear confrontation affecting the life of millions), and not because she's white, affluent, and blonde!!! Get a grip, there is no comparison!!! Even if she was purple with polka dots, and living inside a carboard box, the amount of coverage the media has wasted on her, would still be just as inappropriate! However, now that you metion it, there might be something to the "blonde" hair thing, but on the part of the media! Have you heard of Tamika Houston? No? What about Brenda Y. Cisneros? Think not! These are just two, of the many young , beautiful, American, girls still missing, here in the US, and abroad, whose disappearance, have received little if any media attention. And you know what? Neither was blonde. Ummm... maybe is just a coincidence. Every movement of Beth Holloway Twitty (Natalee's mom, for those of you who impossibly may not have heard yet!) is folllowed by the cameras, as if this was not a tragedy, but a "Reality Show", and, again, we have to put up with her shrill voice, and her "inflected", "Lil' Ole' Me", "Southern Belle Drawl”, night after night through endless, redundant. interviews with nothing new to tell! Don’t the parents of the above missing young ladies, and other missing young people, deserve the same coverage, and attention to their plight from the media, the politicians, and the bloggers, that Beth Holloway Twitty has received? Apparently not!!! The way the Natalee Holloway disappearance has been covered by the media, is a slap in the face to all the parents of missing children, who lack the resources, or the savvy, or the connections, to just put their lives on hold, get on the next airplane to go search for their child, and pester local officials; visit with willing legislators that want to be part of the “media event” in front of the camera; or sit with “News Show” celebrities, such as Greta Van Susteren, Sean Hannity, Nancy Grace, and Geraldo, tete’ a tete’ every night, night, after night, feeding the ratings, and the public’s insatiable appetite for the morbid, and the macabre, in exchange for attention. An excess of attention, which journalistically speaking, it does not deserve! So, yes, maybe there is something to the "white, blonde, and affluent" after all. Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 11, 2005 10:23 AM (6mUkl)

41 Althor, Have you had your medication today?

Posted by: prozacker at August 11, 2005 10:11 PM (MrUCT)

42 Althor, What cha got against Southern Women? It is all Southern Women or just WHITE Southern Women? Or maybe....its just women in general?

Posted by: Southern Woman at August 11, 2005 10:27 PM (MrUCT)

43 Maybe it is just rich women?

Posted by: Rich Witch at August 11, 2005 10:30 PM (MrUCT)

44 Maybe it is just blond women?

Posted by: Blondie666 at August 11, 2005 10:33 PM (MrUCT)

45 Dear Prozacker, Southern Woman, Rich Witch, and Blonde666, Yes, I did have my Metamucil, and my prune juice today. Thanks for asking. And no, I do not hate Southern white women, or white women, or women at all. As a matter of fact, if they are good looking I like them very much (place wolf whistle here)! I just disapprove of conninving, manipulating people like Beth, and of the "ratings-hungry" media supporting her, which keeps shoving her antics and performances down our collective throats for two straight hours of prime time coverage every night, as if it was News! And yes, I did switch the channel, but Nancy Grace on CNN, and Scarborough Country on MSNBC, were "Nataleeing" as well! Love, Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 12, 2005 02:26 AM (6mUkl)

46 Althor, Ahhh sooooo, it's UGLY women you dislike!

Posted by: Dog ugly at August 12, 2005 07:27 AM (MrUCT)

47 Gee Althor, My post was not meant to cause an online stroke. I can see that my words raised your blood pressure significantly. I was worried about you there, Althor. Do you get this upset every night when you turn on the TV and everyone is "Nataleeing"? I hope not for your health sake. That kind of continuous high strung emotions can cause serious damage to the body. Althor, I found it simply thrilling in the way you so emotionaly spewed my name "FOX VIEWER" through out your posts, as you so eloquently shared your thoughts. You know, men are often accused of not communicating their feelins but I can see from your posts that you have no problem what so ever.. Sounds to me like you are definitly having "FOX WITHDRAWAL". That Bill O'Reilly is rather cute. Perhaps a vacation to Aruba would ease your tensions a bit? Have a great weekend

Posted by: fox watcher at August 12, 2005 08:11 AM (MrUCT)

48 Gee Fox Watcher, I am touched that you would be concerned about my blood pressure! But, no, my blood pressure is fine, and the only strokes I've managed are the ones on my keyboard. Thanks for caring! Yes, I have to admit, that it is extremely frustrating when you are trying to find out what the real news are, and you turn channel, after channel, to only see them all indulging in this "Nataleeing Fest”, day, after day, after day! Anyone with half a brain would get upset! I am glad you found it thrilling that I would address some of my comments to you, of course since I was answering directly some of your statements, it would not have been proper to generalize. I am amused, and flattered, by your comments concerning my ability to at least try to express my views in an intelligent manner. I try to compartmentalize, and put my thoughts and emotions about any particular issue in order, so as to be able to express myself about the matter, again, in an intelligent way, and be able to properly convey my opinions. I find it interesting that you seemed confounded by the fact that being a man I can express my self properly. Your comments to the effect seem to indicate, that in your view men are mindless brutes, unable to articulate their feelings. However your innuendo, taunting your finding Bill O'Reilly cute, seeming to attribute, what in your view is a femenine trait: my ability to communicate, to some sexual deviance on my part as being the catalyst for my verbosity, is totally uncalled for! I regret to dash your expectations, and burst your bubble, but unfortunately for my detractors, I'm just one more boring heterosexual! I appreciate your suggestion of taking a vacation in Aruba, but from what I have seen of it in pictures, I would say that I have been to far more beautiful beaches, and though I have nothing against the island or its people in particular so as to wish them ill, I could care less about them! Thank you for wishing me a good weekend. I am sorry that yours won't be as good, as there will be no "Natalee & Colmes" or "On the Aruba with Greta Van Susteren Der Sloot" (please forgive the very appropriate pun) to watch; albeit you'll have "At large in Aruba with Geraldo Rivera", and well, something is better than nothing to satisfy the cravings of your "Natalee" addiction. Also, I would like to take this moment to point out what seem to me be the characteristics of those viewers, like you, enthralled by this Natalee Holloway fiasco, and to analyze their motivation for making this the greatest news media circus event in the history of television. Some liberals, and left-wingers, have accused Fox News of purposely driving this story, so as to divert attention from the mounting casualties in Iraq, the President's dropping numbers in the polls, and other events in Washington, namely "Karl Rove". But after delving into the matter, I must confess that I do not believe this to be so. The Natalee Holloway "Media Extravaganza" frenzy, is not been driven by "political affiliations", but by good old “Ratings”. Sadly, one more time, it is the pocket book, and not principles which takes precedent. These “Ratings” in turn, are been driven by hordes of disillusioned, neurotic, overweight, women, divorced, or married several times, hungering for affection, and attention, and a sense of belonging, who, yes, demographically do exist in greater numbers in trailer parks all throughout the more rural parts of America; many of which have nothing better to do all day than medicate the "hypochondriac illness of the month", sitting all day in front of the TV, popping pills, eating "Twinkies", and blogging "chain-prayers" on the web for Natalee. Let's face it this is the most compelling drama/adventure/mistery event they have seen on TV in quite a while (well, or at least since the Michael Jackson "Monkey Trial"), since if it wasn't for Natalee, and Beth, they'd be watching the "Home Shopping Network", and they do identify with the victim ("Poo' Lil' Ole' Me! After I gave them all three, the best years of my life that night!”) Verstehen Sie? Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 12, 2005 12:59 PM (6mUkl)

49 Post Scriptum: Oh, and by the way Fox Watcher, you should send Bill O'Reilly an e-mail telling him you think him "cute". I'm sure since his marriage, he hasn't had a woman tell him that! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 12, 2005 02:48 PM (6mUkl)

50 Althor, You have said some rather mean things to me but to remind me of Bill's marriage is the lowest of them all. I am crushed

Posted by: fox watcher at August 12, 2005 03:31 PM (MrUCT)

51 Dear Fox Watcher, Allow me to congratulate you! Your posts are improving. Your last post was more articulate, cohesive, and entertaining than your previous ones. I am so glad to see that I mistook the surprise you expressed at finding I had no difficulty communicating my feelings, for that of your assuming all men to be brutes incapable of expressing themselves. Perhaps I read a bit more sarcasm into your statements than I should have. My apologies. You do me an injustice when you say that “being a woman”, you would not expect me to listen , or hear anything you might have to say. You sound just like my wife! But as you so aptly qualified it yourself in your statement, “being a woman” what else can be expected? “Blame it on the brute, he does not listen! Also your “That’s okay” as if resigned, and willing to tolerate that which you can not change from “male-kind” , has a hollow ring of false humility to it, and it’s rather patronizing. “May God save me from the meek, and humble, woman, that from the shrew I can save myself!” Anonymous Spanish saying 18th century. As for Mr. Bobby Brown, though Mr. Brown is a “shy”, and “private” man, who shuns attention, and notoriety, who has not heard of the famous “Mr. Whitney Houston?” Specially since of late Whitney and he, also have a “reality TV Show”, just like Beth, except that it has its own time slot, so they don’t play it during newscasts. I must admit that there is a kernel of truth to your assessment about men being “big boys”, after all a noted Philosopher of Popular Culture of the last century put it very aptly when he said: “ To grow old is inevitable, to grow up is optional.” So, yes I have to admit that there is a bit of : “Whaaaaaa, whaaaa, I want my Fox back! Beth has hijacked my Fox, and I want it back!!! Since being that I am of a more or less conservative frame of mind, and being that there is a definite “Liberal” bias throughout much of the “Elite Media”, I usually turn to Fox News as my primary source of reliable information. And now when I turn to Fox I find this woman there, playing out a soap opera throughout much of the programming, for the last two months! It is like when you are a young boy, and you are sitting in front of the TV watching the “Lone Ranger”, and along comes your mother, and changes the channel to watch “All My Children.” Whaaaaa! I want it back!!! And no, I think that at this stage, I, and others of my opinion, are the ones that have been more than patient, and have had to put up with Beth’s soap opera for over two months now, and that in all fairness, it is Beth that needs a “time-out.” As to repeating your suggestion, that you think maybe a change of scenery may help, I ask you: With globalization, and satellite links beaming Fox and all the other news channels all over the world wouldn’t it be redundant to go elsewhere, since I would be receiving on my TV there the identical signal, and programming, I’m receiving here? There’s no where to hide from the Natalee Holloway fiasco, and Beth! It’s a worldwide “media circus” epidemic! So, yes, I turn my TV off, and resign myself to catch up on my reading, though, God forbid, to be safe, I will not read a current Newspaper, or anything written less than 50 years ago... lest Natalee, and Beth also pop-up in my reading!!! As to your opinion that it seemed to you that I was the one watching a lot of TV, I found it amusing that you would play at being so naive as to believe that I have learned my vocabulary, and writing skills, from watching television. I appreciate the patience, and expertise, with which you explained to me all about “anal retentiveness.” You certainly seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject, however, since I take my Metamucil, and my prune juice regularly, with me it is not an issue Ok, first you express “thrill” at finding me being able to“articulate” my feelings, a quality you admittedly associate mostly with women, and then you ask if O’Reilly is cute. Now, what would anyone infer from that??? Of course, obviously it is not my sexual orientation you are interested in, but at poking at my self-confidence (and perhaps do a bit of offending in a genteel, offhanded way without seeming to do so. Clever!), as shown in your later comments suggesting that I do a bit of “soul searching” (what? Come out of some closet or something?) to find why I would jump to that conclusion. Being at that point in life where you look back, and regret missed opportunities, and you tally all you accomplished, all I can say is ... “So many women, so little time!” But oh well, I did as much as I could! As to your finding Bill “kinda cute”, I’m sure he would feel flattered. That is something I am sure he’s not accustomed to hearing often. Then, there is no accounting for taste in this world! Though Bill can be quite entertaining some times with his inflated ego, and his shannanigans, the reason I used to watch his show, as I did Hannity & Colmes, and to a lesser extent Greta, was to be informed, and not for entertainment. As I have previously stated, disliking the left-leaning bias on other networks, I used to watch Fox as my primary source of news on TV. I am a glad that you are a faithful viewer, and willing to weather out this Aruba “storm in a tea cup”, but as for me, after two months of uninterrupted Beth, I had enough! I know that throwing a “hissy fit” is not going to change things, but posting reasonable objections on the web to the media’s blatantly over -the -top coverage of the thing might. I’m not the only one that feels this excessive coverage of Natalee’s disappearance, is, journalistically speaking, unjustifiable, and reprehensible, and if enough of us voice our concerns, perhaps we’ll be heard. Now, I don’t think I’m being anal about it, as I told you, I take my Metamucil, and drink my prune juice regularly every day! I don’t size folks up, dear Fox Watcher, but must admit that I believe that “profiling” is a useful tool, and not only in fighting terrorism. After all, if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck... It has never been my intention to offend you, or anyone, and if I’ve done so, again, I do apologize. However, some times when you face people with the truth about themselves they get offended, and here Im not referring myself specifically to you, but generalizing. It is true that I do not personally know you, and I’m sure that if we were to meet, I’d most likely find you to be a good and caring person, and a wonderful human being, and would enjoy sitting with you sipping “herbal” tea (is that ever an oxymoron or what?!? Have to try “mineral” tea some time: “I will have the ‘Oxide Darjeeling’ if you please...”), watching re-runs of Natalee’s disappearance with Nancy Grace on Court TV, or the Home Shopping Network, while cordially chit-chatting, commenting on Bill’s latest “tie” on last night’s Factor; but at the expense of seeming curt, the reason I post comments on this blog, is to exchange views, and ideas, and express my outrage ( Whaaaa! I want my Fox back! That Beth bitch stole it! Yes, I’m pissed about it! Change my diaper! Whaaaa!) at the on-going Natalee Holloway media circus, not to socialize. Also, it is understandable that as a woman you have maternal instincts, which explain why you, as so many other women do, empathize so strongly with Beth, as well as your condescending understanding of how “us little boys” behave. Maternal instincts are as primordial in us, as the fear of the dark. However, one need not be afraid of the dark. Having been raised by a loving, and devoted Father, never having wanted for lack of nurturing on his part, nor ever feeling any void in my life for lack of maternal participation , I personally find, at today’s stage in our evolution, “maternal instincts” to be a bit overrated!!! The only discernable emotional scar I bear as the result of having lacked the nurturing of my mother, is an excessive liking, almost an obsession, with women’s breasts, and of course, this most likely can be psychologically attributed to not having been breast-fed, whereby a beautiful pair of full breasts, subliminally represent to me not only sex, but nourishment as well! Ha, ha! Wishing not to pain you again, I take my leave respectfully, Love, Althor.

Posted by: Althor at August 13, 2005 12:14 PM (6mUkl)

52 Why Althor, did you really pay ME a compliment? I'm practically speechless! Many thanks, Althor! You know, only a gentleman apologizes, when he does not have to. Your apology is accepted and appreciated. Isn't it wonderful when two adults can amicably agree to disagree? Althor, I AM a good and caring person, as well as, a wonderful human being. However, I don't drink hot tea and I don't watch the home shopping channel or Oprah and I detest Soap Operas. When I do have time to watch TV, I usually choose something from Discovery, Military, History or Fox. I am fascinated by history. I do love Mr. O'Reilly's wit but I could care less what color tie he wears. I must admit that I am attracted to intelligent, assertive and outspoken men with "over inflated egos" such as yourself, Mr O'Reilly and yes indeed, Mr. Fox Watcher. Now please don't read anything into my message as I am not flirting or "making a play" for you. I am merely letting you know that I recognize a "duck" (smart ass) when I see one and since I myself live with one, I certainly know a thing or two about how one thinks and behaves. As much as I would relish the idea of chatting with you over tea, I would much prefer having cocktails with Mrs. Althor and Mrs. Bill O'Reilly. Now, sir, that would be an interesting and entertaining event, as I am sure the three of us would have PLENTY to talk about! I am honored, Sir, that you would even entertain the idea of having tea and a chat with me! I will not be sending Mr. O'Reilly an email telling him that I think he is cute. Bill doesn't need to hear that from me as he already KNOWS it. Besides, with all the weird people out there, I am afraid he might take me for a stalker and have me arrested. Althor, were you by any chance in the Military or did you work for the feds for any length of time? Just curious

Posted by: fox watcher at August 13, 2005 08:29 PM (MrUCT)

53 Dear Fox Watcher, Thank you so very much for your compliments, though I feel undeserving of them! They do puff up a bit my inflated ego and it feels good, so I figure I’ll take them at face value, and not try to read into them any sarcasm, which I am sure you did not intend. Again, thank you. I am glad to see you are a discerning television viewer (which is more than can be said about most of the rest of the population). I myself am partial to sitting down with a glass of a good single malt whiskey, like Oban ( no ice...what, you want me to catch a cold of the liver?), watching “Nature” on PBS, some nice intelligent program on the “Discovery Channel” ( not their crime and police shows), the “History Channel,” the “National Geographic Channel,” or “Fox News” before it was hijacked by the Twittys. However, I find it paradoxical, that having expressed your dislike of soap operas, you would watch Beth, and follow the Natalee Holloway case, but then the universe is full of unexplained phenomena. I am glad to find that you are a person who can feel attracted to the intellectual qualities of someone of the opposite sex, without having to automatically feel compelled to procreate with them, and of course I wouldn’t read anything unbecoming into your statement. At any rate Mrs. Althor is standing fast, close at hand, with the chain in her hands that is attached to my nose ring!!! Thank you for considering me intelligent, assertive, and outspoken, I must protest though, as to your qualifying my ego as “over-inflated.” Last time I made the calculations, my ego only had 12, 830 cubic feet of hot air, which falls short of the 14,000 necessary to lift a person of average weight (which I’m not), so that I do not consider that to be “over-inflated.” Besides, being that as I previously mentioned, I do take my Metamucil, and prune juice regularly, I loose a lot of gas breaking wind. Yes I also would be most honored, and would relish the idea of having a chit-chat with you, and Mr. Fox Watcher over cocktails, sipping on my Oban. But the thought of you, Mrs. O’Reilly, and Mrs. Althor, all sitting conniving together, somehow sends a chill down my spine...something reminiscent of the “Old Wives Club” or something. I don’t think “men - kind” would be ready for that one yet (God have mercy on us!). I am disappointed that you would not send Bill an e-mail telling him you think him cute (again, no accounting for taste in this world), as I’m sure he does not hear that often. However, it might not be necessary, since as you pointed out, he thinks so highly of himself, that I am sure he has enough cubic feet of hot air in him to have a nice lift in a median temperature of 76 degrees Fahrenheit, rising over the beautiful vistas of Sandia Peak in Albuquerque. As to you fears concerning his possibly taking you for a “stalker” wishing to do him harm, I am sure that you can be clearly differentiated from any members of the ACLU ! As I have said before, profiling is a powerful tool. Unfortunately, I have not served in the Military, something I deeply regret. Had I the ability to turn time back I would do so. America has the greatest, and most conscientious Military in the world, and we would have won in Viet-Nam, Somalia, and would win in Iraq if it wasn’t for the “Tokyo Roses” of the “anti-war movement”, and the “Democrats”: Kennedy, Durbin, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, and their ilk! They, and not the insurgents, are, in my opinion, the greatest threat to our national security, and to America: the defeatist “fifth column” from within, taking advantage of the very freedoms we grant them to destroy them, and America! My regards to Mr. Fox Watcher ( ...and my condolences. Tell him if we get lucky, there really might be 72 gorgeous, sexy, virgins for each of us in Heaven. Hah, hah!!!) And to you Mrs. Fox Watcher, my thanks, and sincere regard. Love Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 14, 2005 01:44 PM (6mUkl)

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Posted by: fox watcher at August 14, 2005 04:39 PM (MrUCT)

55 The disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, and her likely demise, like that of any other human being, is a tragedy in and of itself. It is understandable that Natalee’s mom (Beth Holloway Twitty to those who may impossibly not know at this point) would avail herself of every mean at her disposal to find her daughter, and answers, and this combined with the media’s insatiable appetite for “sensationalist” updates on a case with very little “hard” evidence, and few significant developments for over two months, has resulted in the whole thing having been “spin” out of control. The story, in the words of a fellow blogger, has “...taken the dimensions of a mystery novel, with possible romance, a possible crime, and a cast of characters I don’t think even Faulkner could have invented,” all of it fueled by the “ratings” driven obsession of the media, and the increasingly paranoiac antics of Beth in front of the cameras which follow her assiduously, making of this tragedy a “media circus”, a “soap opera melodrama”, and a “TV reality show!” Now, with all the hype been given to this story, I believe a good hype deserves another, so here it goes: “It was bound to happen, in our consumerism oriented society. The disappearance of young, pretty, Natalee Holloway in Aruba, has sparked the public’s imagination, and driven the ratings of those newscasts devoting prime time to her case through the roof. The attention given Ms. Holloway’s disappearance has far surpassed that of any other media event in television history. On the web, countless blogs keep the avid public continuously updated of the least possible development on the story, and people are downloading a song / tribute written about Natalee from a site called “Nat’s Place,” a forthcoming recording of which has been rumored, possibly in Memphis. On E-Bay, posters of Natalee dancing at Carlos & Charlie’s, and of her Yearbook picture, are on sale, as well as pirated DVDs of her home movies showing her at a High School function whirling her baton, Natalee “T” Shirts, and some of the reward posters from Aruba. Some people have written the Postmaster General suggesting a US Commemorative stamp remembering Natalee should be issued by the Postal Service, featuring her Yearbook picture. There are talks in Hollywood of a possible movie, and or TV mini-series, and several book deals are on the work, one by the Georgia investigator brought by the Twittys into the case (who will also be doing public appearances as a speaker on the subject), one by Mr. Mansur the Editor of “Diario,” the Aruban Newspaper, concentrating on an inside look at the investigation, as well as an “official” account from Beth being negotiated with the Twittys. In light of all this. Milton Bradley has announced its plan to release a new version of their classic game “Clue”based on the Aruba mystery. The new game will be called “Natalee Missing in Aruba: Without a Clue.” Though many of the details are still on the works, the cover will reportedly show Natalee’s Yearbook picture on one side, with a smaller picture of Greta Van Susteren, the Fox News pundit so devoted to her case, on the lower right corner endorsing the product. The game will feature a map of Aruba, with such landmarks as the “Carlos & Charlie’s,” the “Marriott,” the “Pond” etc, in place of the old “rooms” of the original game. Other elements of the game will also be updated to make it relevant to the actual case, so that instead of having “Mr. Green, with the Lead Pipe, in the Conservatory” or “Colonel Mustard, with the Revolver, in the Library” it will now have “ Joran Van Der Sloot. With the Belt, in the Lighthouse” or “Deepak Kalpoe, with the Duct tape, in the Landfill” and so on. The final release date will be made public, as soon as licensing negotiations with Beth, and her husband Jughead, have come to a close. As pre-release reservations keep pouring in at Milton Bradley’s web site, the game is expected to be sold out upon release, making it one of the hottest items on the market for this coming fall.” This is a farce, of course, but the sad part is, that aside from “the game,” most of it is really coming to pass. Truly sad! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 15, 2005 12:26 PM (6mUkl)

56 i am fed up of al this haloway news here in curacao we say : "nos ta fada ku kada bes nos ta tende nataly nataly nataly". even the teachers have me now looking for nataly's articles on the internet. how can a dead person molest us like that and curacao stay next to aruba

Posted by: ella at August 16, 2005 08:05 PM (YRVHs)

57 Ella, I hope that you don't ever get "molested" or disappear in a foreign country where the laws are different. Here in America, I am fed up with Aruba and the poor way the Aruban law enforcement has handled the whole situation. How can one teenager and his father have so much control? Blame them. IF Joran and his buddies would just tell the truth, then all of this would go away. Why doesn't the Aruban people turn their "attitude" towards Vandersloots instead of the Twitty parents and the press, who just want to get the truth (no matter how bad it is and go home). How can a 17 year old teenage boy have an open line of credit at Casinos in Aruba and be allowed to gamble and have gambling debts? Why was he allowed in that bar where Natalee was that night when he was only 17? Delia

Posted by: Delia at August 17, 2005 12:04 PM (MrUCT)

58 Dear Delia, If you don't like Aruba, don't go there. I'm sure they won't miss you! Besides, all the damage to the "image", and the "tourist industry of Aruba, that could possibly have been done, has already been done by Beth, and the media with their unrelenting barrage of negative coverage on Aruba, so that at this point Aruba has nothing to loose! I agree with Ella, and will go even further, and suggest that the Aruban government should boot Beth and her cronies out of the island once and for all, and go on about the investigation quietly without so much of a circus, and so much hooplah all around them! When is enough Natalee Holloway enough????? Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 01:41 PM (6mUkl)

59 Mr. Althor, I have no plans to go to Aruba nor Curacau. Sounds like both are dangerous places. Any place that would allow casinos to give a 17 year old boy an open line of credit isn't the kind of place I want to visit. Also, sounds like that 17 year old Joran pretty much runs the whole island. Nope, Aruba nor Caracau will NOT be bothered by me nor my tourist dollars. The Twitty's would gladly go home, if they could just get the answers they want. Where's Natalee? Give them Natalee and they (I am positive will leave Aruba for good). Once they leave and go home with out answers, they will never know for sure what happened to their child. It is obvious that the judicial system in Aruba is not going to go out of their way to give them closure. Yes, I am sure that if Beth and Jug would just "go away" that people could have their comfortable little lives back. I say "dig", Beth, keep digging and bugging the hell out of people until they are so sick of it all that they will finally put enough heat on the Vandersloots and Kalpoe Brothers to give them the answers they have a right to know. Mr. Althor, You have no problems articulating your thoughts. Why don't you and Ella write to the Aruban Officials and complain to them. Write a letter in the Aruban Paper letting the people know that we want this case solved so that the Twitty's will "go away". Ella, send a letter to Joran asking him to "tell the truth and nothing but the truth" in the best interest of the Aruban people. Write to the Kalpoe brothers and ask them to tell the truth so that the Aruban people can be rid of the Twittys. Put the pressure where it will count for something. Help solve the problem rather than just complain about it. Delia

Posted by: Delia at August 17, 2005 02:08 PM (MrUCT)

60 Dear Delia, You prove my point precisely. Aruba is not the kind of place I would let my seventeen, or eighteen year old loose in, specially unsupervised(where were the chaperones that night when Natalee got into the car with Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers to stop her?). If Beth would have exercised a bit more common sense, and parental discretion, instead of unleashing her daughter in a "Girls Gone Wild" environment fraught with booze, readily available drugs, and plentiful gonads, Natalee would be alive today, and this circus would not be going on! Beth is not after closure. She can imagine what happened to her fool-hardy daughter who got into a car with three strange males after her companions had returned back to their hotel,Beth knows Natalee is dead. What Beth is after, is BLOOD! She (and rightfully so if indeed he is the perpetrator) is after Van Der Sloot's blood, and she won't rest until she gets it! However, what if Van Der Sloot is innocent? However unlikely it may sound to you, it remains a possibility, and we should let the investigation take its course, and not try to impose our preconceptions on the results! No one wants Beth to go away so we can all "go back to our petty, little lives". We want her to go away so that this "media circus"/"soap opera melodrama"/"news TV reality show" stops been flashed in our faces for two hours of prime time news coverage, every day, day after day, at the expense of other more important news, and developments which are being overshadowed by this non-event!!! Natalee’s disappearance, when it happened, was news, and as such it merited to be reported; but after two months of very little “hard” evidence, and few significant developments; endlessly interviewing Beth and her cronies on “prime time” for two hours every night, hashing, and rehashing stale old fact, the same old baseless allegations she has previously made, unsubstantiated rumors, and all sorts of hear say, because the media’s ravenous appetite for sensationalism is not being fed fast enough by the Aruban authorities due to the Dutch practice of withholding information to protect the integrity of a possible prosecution of the suspects resulting in information not being forthcoming from investigators, is just like a dog going over, and over his own vomit, and it’s nauseating! Every bit of garbage found in Aruba is immediately hyped by the media as a “crucial bit of evidence that will break the case,” and of course, upon close scrutiny, they all invariably turn out to be nothing more nor less than pieces of garbage! So it was with the “hair on the tape,” and now the “belt” fiascos. When last Christmas the Tsunami that hit the Indian Ocean basin wiped out entire villages killing over two hundred thousand human beings, and affecting millions of others, the networks actively covered the aftermath of the tragedy, the socio-political implications of the disaster, as well as the relief, and reconstruction efforts, for nearly a month, but the Tsunami did not remain the main focus of two hours of “prime time” coverage on several networks every night, night after night for over two months, nor did its coverage eclipse that of other important, and significant news and developments taking place at the time around the world, as the Natalee Holloway case has! Are we to infer from this, that the life of this one girl, is more important to us than the life of all those other two hundred thousand who died???? It is understandable that it may be so to Beth, her mother; but it ought not to be to us as a Nation. Natalee’s disappearance has to be placed in its proper perspective!!! Perhaps you are right, and I, and others like me should write the authorities in Aruba, and pressure them, not into caving in to Beth and her cronies, but to have the "cojones" to boot her off the island once and for all!!! With so many other people missing here and around the world, all the attention given this one, insignificant girl is just sickening!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 02:46 PM (6mUkl)

61 Mr. Althor, Write to the Fox Net Work and the other media and complain. Write to Nancy Grace and Greta Van Sustran and complain. Surely you can't blame the Twittys for taking advantage of the media when the media is so readily available to them? Who paid for Greta to fly back and forth to Aruba all those many times? Beth would be crazy not to take advantage of the media. Your frustration with Beth and Jug should be directed at the Press and not with them. They are just doing what any parent would do in the same circumstances. Beth Twitty doesn't control all the Net Works. She can't control what news is reported and what is not. She does not have that much power. What is important to you, Mr. Althor, might not be important to the next. If Joran is not guilty then why does he change the story so many times? He is certainly acting guilty. He and his father didn't even offer to help look for Natalee. His father didn't even want him to provide information to the family about the last night Natalee was alive. How sorry is that? The answer to what happened to Natalee is on that Island. The Island is not that big. If the Twittys just shut up and go away, it would make life so much easier for alot of people. Yet, there are an awful lot of people spending money and time to help the Twittys. There are alot of intelligent and educated folks helping the Twittys (Not just fat, stupid, soap Opera loving house wives). I don't blame Beth for wanting blood. I would too if someone harmed one of my children. She should seek justice for Natalee. If she doesn't who will? Mr. Althor, I don't decide what news is more important than the other. I am not the Program director for Fox, CNN or MSNBC. Perhaps you should write to them. I do Know that I watched Fox last night and there was not two hours devoted to Natalee. even Greta didn't devote her whole show to Natalee last night. Write to the Authorities in Aruba and voice your opinion. I dare you. I have a feeling that if they get enough letters from people like you and Ella that they will work harder to resolve this case. I mean, what was the deal with the dump? Two weeks of work destroyed because some Government worker decided to go and dump more trash. Why? Because he could. Daaaaaaa. How is that helping solve this case? That just slows everything down and makes the Arubans look bad; like they aren't wanting to solve the case. This whole Aruba investigation reminds me of how every time the Captain found a way off the Island, Gilligan would come along and mess everything up. Aruba. Was that Gilligan's Island?

Posted by: Delia at August 17, 2005 04:01 PM (MrUCT)

62 Dear Delia, I have written to Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and all the other networks indulging in this unfettered “Aruba - Fest” (missing “Girl Gone Wild” gets “Media Gone Wild.” Would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic!), however I seriously doubt they will take my, or anybody’s objection to their over-the -top coverage of "all things Natalee", so long as the “ratings” keep high (which only goes to show you the intelligence, and banality of most viewers). Of course Beth would be crazy not to take advantage of the willing media’s inordinate exposure given her, though you must also give her some credit, as she has proven herself to be one hell of a “manipulating” person. But the media has the responsibility to remain impartial, objective, and balanced, and not indulge in this “ratings” driven media circus as they have! To call upon the media’s attention to help her put pressure on the authorities to resolve her daughter’s disappearance is one thing, but Beth has long ago crossed the line of propriety, and turned this tragedy into a farce, unbefitting the memory of her daughter! We all have seen her, constantly in the limelight, always having a camera follow her in a very undignified manner, as if she was a participant in some TV reality show, rather than a grieving mother immersed in her pain. As time progresses, it seems more apparent that most of what we have seen of her on our screens, has been staged, and or scripted, no doubt to elicit greater viewer sympathy, and support, like her inflected “Poo' Lil’ Ole’ helpless me” “Southern “Belle” accent, which if it is the way she really talks, will make her one sorry choice for a “speech therapist.” You may not decide which news is more important, but the networks do, and to have people sitting like idiots in front of the TV watching hashes, and rehashes of the same old stale facts, rumors and innuendos concerning this farce, night after night, while failing to report on the nuclear threat posed by North Korea, for example, or other subjects that we should be focusing on as a Nation that may very well affect all of our lives, is not only irresponsible on the part of the media, but immoral! What? Are we still going to be watching “Natalee Holloway” when the North Koreans nuke Seattle????? Seems we are too busy as a Nation following up on Natalee to know there is a threat in the first place!!!! As I have previously stated, it is Beth’s responsibility as a mother to stay the course, and wait until the end of the investigation, and try to find closure for her tragedy, but at this point it should no longer be the concern of the Nation. More than enough time has already been devoted to this case by the media, even in the face of scant "hard" evidence, and lack of significant new developments!!!! And again, were I to write the authorities in Aruba, what I would tell them is that they should get rid of the “nuisance” and boot Beth and her cronies off Aruba!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 04:51 PM (6mUkl)

63 Mr. Althor, Again, I say put your pen to work. Write Aruba and tell them "to boot Beth and her cronies off of Aruba." If you think she is getting media coverage now, just wait and see what kind of coverage she would get, if indeed Aruba were to "boot her off the island". Again, Beth Twitty does not have the power to force those cameras to follow her nor does she have the power to force any of the networks to air what they film. Greta Van Susteran calls Beth and has said so on her show. Most of the time Beth's "cronies" looked exhausted when I have seen them interviewed. I can't understand how an adult male, as yourself, can make fun of a woman who is going through the tragedy that she is going through. You seem to be implying that she is enjoying herself. Is that what you are saying? Have you ever traveled in the South? My quess is no, you have not. Obviously you have not. Well, THAT IS the way people talk down there. Mr. Althor, Do you have any children? Is there anyone in this world that you care about more than you care about yourself? I suggest you pen a letter to Senator Trent Lott and ask him how folks talk down there. Ask him if his mother had a Southern accent like that. Better yet, take a trip down South and see for yourself, if you can get away from a TV or computer long enough.

Posted by: Delia at August 17, 2005 08:23 PM (MrUCT)

64 Dear Delia, If Beth were to be booted off the island, she and the media could not possibly do any greater harm to the image of Aruba, and their tourism industry than they already have, so big deal! I suppose you can say that when she told the ABC crew (as has been confirmed by said crew) that she was going to go to the Internet Cafe to confront Deepak, and at what time, and then posted her two security guards by the door to keep "undesirables" from coming in, and distracting from the "drama" being played out, that it was the ABC camera crew which imposed themselves upon her! Right! If Beth is not enjoying herself, at least she does bask pleasantly in the "Limelight"!!! I have no doubt that her cronies are exhausted, it is hot in Aruba, and holding those tall drinks by the pool can make anyone break a sweat! Your supposed "understanding" implying that my "maleness" equates in your mind to what amounts apparently in your opinion to "insensitivity" is offensive, and patronizing. I can assure you that I consider myself a far more responsible and caring parent than what I consider Beth (not by prejudice as yours against me, but based on the sum of all her statements, actions, or lack of action thereof in public) to be, but would not make of my grief a public spectacle, parading in front of the cameras like an ass (the beast of burden) but would go dig myself, something she apparently has done very little of, if any (she might break a nail!) I have more than been articulate, and comprehensive in explaining intelligently my objection on several levels to this "media circus"/"soap opera melodrama"/"TV news reality show" surrounding this tragedy, but unfortunately there is not much I can do if after amply explaining my position, others do not have the intelligence to understand, or grasp what I have so plainly elucidated! I lived in the South for over 25 years, and being very familiar with the way Southerners talk, specially in the area around Birmingham Alabama, is why I have come to the conclusion that Beth is "inflecting" her accent even more, apparently trying to appear "quaint", "fragile", and "genteel". Again, I hope she uses a more neutral accent professionally, or she would not be much help to anyone with a speech impediment! And no, I do not watch News much anymore, since as soon as Natalee once again pops up in the coverage, I just turn it off. As for sitting in front of a computer all day, what can I say, I multy-task! So there you have it, and "Happy Nataleeing" to you!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 09:53 PM (6mUkl)

65 Natalee Holloway Is A Victim of Irresponsible Parenting By Dave Gibson (07/10/05) If Beth Holloway Twitty (Natalee's mom) is looking to point the finger of blame for the tragic loss of her daughter--she need look no further than a mirror. She allowed her eighteen year-old daughter to celebrate her high school graduation, by taking a trip to 'Sin Island.' Thousands of young Americans choose Aruba as their party destination because they can legally drink and gamble and illegal drugs are so readily available. Over 70 percent of Aruba's tourists are Americans. Natalee's distraught mother has been roundly criticizing Aruban officials since her daughter disappeared on May 29th. It was discovered that Natalee had joined seventeen year-old Joran Van Der Sloot (no doubt for a late-night romp) on the night of her disappearance. Van Der Sloot along with two Surinamese brothers (Deepak Kalpoe, 21 and Satish Kalpoe,1 were arrested and questioned as to Natalee's whereabouts. Only Van Der Sloot remains in custody. Joran Van Der Sloot is the son of an influential Dutch family living on the island. Paul Van Der Sloot is a member of the legal community and reported to be a 'judge in training.' The elder Van Der Sloot who was briefly detained in the investigation, reportedly told his son: "If there is no body, there is no case." Natalee of course, is still missing and the case seems to have reached a stalemate. Aruban officials have refused to allow FBI investigators to play an active role in the case. Considering the Aruban government's lack of experience with murder cases (there was on murder in Aruba last year), most of us find the refusal of help to be puzzling. However, Aruba's beautiful beaches and crystal clear waters hide a sinister activity. Aruba has long been a jumping-off point for drug smugglers--bringing South American cocaine to the United States. Aruban and Dutch officials have largely accepted the role their tiny island plays in the drug trade. They do not want the FBI peering into their dirty laundry. Despite what many Americans believe, when we as U.S. citizens travel outside of the country--we no longer posses the rights granted us by our Constitution. We also become subject to the laws and unfortunately the corruption of foreign governments. Although a Dutch protectorate, Aruba is basically a banana republic. In addition to being a willing party in the international narco-trade, Aruban police are no doubt ill-prepared to conduct a serious murder investigation. However, it was not the government of Aruba who purchased a plane ticket for young Natalee. The bottom line is that it was her parents who allowed her to travel to a "Girls Gone Wild" environment. Natalee's mom is beside herself with grief. She is also desperately seeking to place blame upon everyone...with the exception of herself. The fact that Natalee was allowed to travel to another country with little or (apparently) no adult supervision--is symptomatic of just how permissive many American parents have become. This article represents the first time I have heard Natalee's parents publicly criticized for their role in this tragedy. The lack of responsibility placed upon her parents is another glaring example to the erosion of personal responsibility. One of the duties of a parent is to say "NO." Unfortunately, more and more parents seem to find it impossible to utter that dread word. All too many parents now choose to be more of a buddy and lees of a parent to their children. The sad fact is, had Natalee Holloway's parents said no to her request to visit an alcohol and drug-fueled paradise--young Natalee would now be preparing for her freshman year of college. Instead, her mom and dad are now searching for her lifeless body. Would you send your eighteen year-old daughter on a week of debauchery? Ed: Views are those of individual authors and not necessarily those of American Daily. Nice to see other "bastards" like me out there with a bit of common sense for a change! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 10:09 PM (6mUkl)

66 Natalee was of legal age to do what she pleased. When will this board be done with you cramming your opinion down our throats. Everyone reading this knows what Althor's opinion is. You are the one that gets personal and assumes (makes an ass out of you and me) that you are so much more intelligent than anyone else. How many times do you have to post your opinion? If any one else dares post an opinion that differs from yours, than you call them ignorant and stupid. Maybe some of us who visit this board feel the same way about seeing yet another post from YOU AS YOU DO when you hear ABOUT NATALEE! Maybe some of us would like to know what others think. You have made it perfectly clear what you think. Why do you keep repeating yourself over and over? There are plenty of "bastards" ( your words not mine) in the world. Hell, Look at Bill Clinton. He became President of the USA. He was a Rhodes Scholar and oh, so smart. Yet, there he was in the white house with his cigar. He was a whole lot smarter and a whole lot more experienced that Natalee Holloway. What happen to him? He got busted, cigar, stain and all. He thought highly of himself too. Yes, I guess many would say that he was a real smart "Bastard" (your word not mine) too. You would think someone as intelligent and experienced as him would not have allowed to be taken down by a young intern. Yea, people make mistakes. Even the smartest of the smart find out that they are not as smart as they think they are. So there.

Posted by: Delia at August 17, 2005 11:06 PM (MrUCT)

67 Dear Delia, First of all, you should clear the spittle dripping from your snarling mouth, or it might ruin your keyboard. Secondly, if you find my posts insufferable you should change the channel (or blog in this case), just as you and others of your ilk have suggested I do when facing the never-ending barrage of Natalee coverage been thrust in my face on TV day after day! I have always made my arguments upon the merits, or lack thereof of the excessive coverage been given this story. You on the other hand immediately resorted to impute my "maleness" with your patronizing "understanding," so that if someone did in fact make an arse of herself it has been you, not I, and neither have I for lack of vocabulary descended into the diatribe of vulgarity. Apparently you could hardly hold yourself. Thank you for reminding me so many times I myself had called myself "bastard". Apparently you were unable to savour the sarcasm. And by the way, what has Bill Clinton to do with Beth's circus??? Now why don't you go back to watching Nancy Grace, and posting "chain prayers" for Natalee on the web, and, oh yes, don't forget to take your pills for your "hypochondriac illness of the month." Happy Nataleeing!!! Tata! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 17, 2005 11:55 PM (6mUkl)

68 In practically every post you have written, you have personally attacked The Holloways or the people who differ from you. You got nasty first. You are quick to point out that anyone whose opinion differs from yours is an idiot. I guess that makes all of those folks at the Networks all idiots. They need to put you in charge to run things. I quess you would do so much better. Why aren't you running things over at FOX, CNN and MSNBC? I quess it gets rather frustrating when you want to be in control and can't. I quess by ridiculing the Twittys and saying nasty things about them and calling people ignorant is your way of dealing with your frustration. A gentleman would not do such a thing. I brought up Bill Clinton's mistake with Monica to point out that there are highly intelligent people in the world that make stupid mistakes. DAAAAAAAA As smart as you are, you should know that. Natalee and Beth are not the only people that have made mistakes and just because they made some poor choices (like Bill Clinton) doesn't mean they are stupid. Natalee trusted Joran and Bill trusted Monica. Clinton was way older and way more experienced than Natalee. Yet, that did not stop him from making some really poor choices. I will continue to watch and keep up with the Holloway family. I hope Beth stays on this like a dog on a bone. Too bad that people like you have to deal with it. I don't believe this is your personal Blog, although you seem to have made it as such. Just remember, you got personal first with your nasty personal remarks. Why don't you allow others to voice an opinion with out forever having to print a come back and accusing them of being ignorant? You can have the last word. Judgemental people like you must have the last word. In your judgemental mind, nothing any one else has to say is nearly as important as what you have to say. In your mind, you are right and every one else is wrong. You can make it clear that you think the Holloway coverage is excessive with out attacking the Holloways/Twittys personally. Yes, we know, you think the press coverage is excessive. Got it! But please, out of respect for those of us who care for the Holloway/Twittys, keep your personal remarks about them to yourself. Out of respect for Natalee, who can not defend herself, please keep your disrespectful comments to yourself because frankly, it is just not necessary and it ruins your credibility. You have bragged about how learned you are. Maybe you are but do you have any class or decency about you? Oh, but then, if we have learned our lesson from Clinton's mistake, then we know that being learned doesn't give you class or respectability. It is what a man does and says that earns him respect and distinction. I look at the ugly sarcastic remarks that you write and I think to my self, "Who cares what Althor thinks". I say go Beth go! Use the media to your advantage. Maybe you will save the life of some other young person from making the same poor choices.

Posted by: Delia at August 18, 2005 01:10 AM (MrUCT)

69 Women! They always have to have the last word in an argumnent!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 18, 2005 08:37 AM (6mUkl)

70 Originally Posted by Angel Demonstration against the American Media Oranjestad – Coming Thursday there will be a demonstration against the way Aruba is portrayed by CNN and Fox. The organizers are annoyed by the unfounded negative news coverage and wish to protest against it in a peaceful manner. the waiting is for the permit, when obtained, a group of concerned citizens will gather on the Plaza Betico Croes at 6 pm. Point of interest will be how the mentioned media handles the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. It will be a peaceful gathering, where the USA will be asked to do everything in its power to stop the negative reporting. Most likely chairperson of the States Marlon Werleman will be present to receive the official complaint. Persons interested are asked to come with Aruban flags. Now the arubans have come to know the otherside of US media, the insulting, bashing and sensational based upon lies reports. Arubans till now have know US media with real news in which they believed but now are being confronted with media-waste. Now they see how lies can be told and people insulted and being broadcasted as truthfull information. Not all are like this but some are not worthed to call themselves reporters. So Aruba go for it, do not let anybody come in your home and insult you like they did. Show them they need to show some respect or make their money elsewhere. (I'm not the only one apparently)

Posted by: Althor at August 18, 2005 08:47 AM (6mUkl)

71 Now, if we may leave Natalee quietly in her grave for a while, and discuss far more important matters, as has been my contention all along, I have been watching some of the developments taking place in Gaza (amazingly enough Fox was broadcasting it rather than another Beth interview), and though I fully understand the logistics behind evacuating a handful of Jewish settlements set amidst a veritable sea of hostile Palestinians, as something not economically, or logistically feasible in the long run for Israel, as well as being a road-block to peace negotiations in the region, nevertheless it leaves a sour taste in my mouth! Though the military superiority of the IDF is unquestionable, the Arab media, and the Palestinians are playing this out, as if it was their 40 years of relentless terrorism, blowing themselves and innocent bystanders up, that has resulted in this so called “victory” for them, and I’m afraid that rather than promoting peace, and stability in the region, it will just further the terrorism, and the violence, as they aim to also reconquer the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. The slogans on banners, bumper stickers, and other advertising media paid with (of all things) United Nations money(oddly enough, yeah, right!), proclaim in Arabic: “Today Gaza! Tomorrow the West Bank, and East Jerusalem!” Taking into account the escalation of suicide bombings, and IDEs that have resulted in so many US casualties lately in Iraq, if we are to judge by their applying similar strategies, these brainwashed pubescent murderers, whose gonads impel them to think more of the 72 alleged “virgins” in paradise (of course it is understandable to a point: there is no comparison to sheep, and goats), than one good laid here on earth before they blow themselves, and other innocent bystanders up to pieces so willingly, and with the loving support of their mothers, family, and friends, may prove to be a sticky factor that will keep derailing all efforts to achieve any reasonable attempt at peace in the region! I for one, do not think that after having polarized, and destroyed Lebanon “The Paris of the Middle East” with their venom, and their unhealthy presence, after all the murders, and acts of terrorism like that of the Munich Olympics of 1972, and the “plane hijackings” they popularized during the 70s and 80s, and all the suicide bombings of innocent civilians throughout the latest “Intifada,” and the last 40 years, that the Palestinians should be rewarded with “Statehood”, and be counted as an "upstanding Nation" amongst the Nations of the earth! Far from it! As they were part of either Egypt, or Jordan at the United Nations partition of 1948, I would place pressure on both Egypt, and Jordan, to simply take them back, “their beloved Muslim brothers”, into their fold! Problem is that both Nations have consistently refused to accept them, lest they wind up like Lebanon too!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 18, 2005 01:28 PM (6mUkl)

72 Is “Media Gone Wild” over missing “Girl Gone Wild” finally calming down ( Watch out! The “Big Top” is falling!)? Well, unbelievably as it may sound the Natalee Holloway media circus may actually be grinding down to a halt, in spite of their best efforts by Beth Holloway Twitty and her camp, the pundits at Fox News, and Nancy Grace and other pundits at CNN, to feed, and keep the ratings generating media monster alive! As surprising as it may sound to those of us who have watched in dumbfounded amazement how Beth Holloway Twitty, and other members of her entourage, would be regularly interviewed, and Natalee’s disappearance hashed, and rehashed, with nothing new to add to the scant facts known, nor being there any new significant developments to report, at least three times per show on Fox’s prime time lineup: “Hannity & Colmes”, “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.” (who has actually devoted several whole programs to the subject and bragged about “owning” the coverage on the fiasco), and to a lesser extent on “Bill O’Reilly,” and then on Nancy Grace on CNN, who like Greta, would usually devote her entire show mostly to speculations on Aruba, the number of “Beth / Aruba” interviews on said programs is actually declining!!! On his August 16th program Bill O’Reilly on the pretext of “an update on the case” interviewed Beth’s husband “Jughead” Twitty, and “Diario” editor Jossy Mansur (who long ago sold his journalistic soul to the Twitty camp, and the sensationalist media) on the “breaking development,” that there seemed to be no new “breaking developments” in the case! Jug made some half hearted comments concerning how he wasn’t getting as much information about the investigation as he previously had received from Aruban authorities, and Jossy responded to a question about having any other “surprise witnesses” coming forth, with a vague reference to there not being other “gardeners” with testimony to give to the Aruban courts at the present time! To top it off, Bill, on his “Thursdays with Geraldo” segment on the following day, discussed the Natalee Holloway case with Geraldo Rivera, and both commented, or kept making reference to how the investigation seems to have “hit a brick wall.” Geraldo went as far as to assert that at this point extracting information about the case was like “trying to squeeze more juice out of a grape that had turned into a raisin” (I wonder if it was the relentless, over-the-top media over-exposure under the hot Aruban sun that sucked dry the case into a shriveled raisin!!!) At any rate, following the Factor, Hannity & Colmes only did one “Aruba” interview (miracle of miracles!), and Greta though touching on the subject a couple of times, did not devote her entire program to the case (as she has often done in the past), dispelling the pernicious rumors being bantered about, that it seemed Fox was under some kind of contract to interview Beth and her cronies “X” amount of times per day throughout their prime time programming, regardless of wether they had something new to add to the case or not (well, or at least apparently the contract is expiring!). On Larry King, world renowned Forensic Pathologist Dr. Henry Lee, even went as far as to assert that “the case had grown cold,” and that Beth’s circus of volunteers, tourists on “Agatha Christy Mystery Solving Vacations” helping the search, teams of local volunteers, “Equusearch” members, private investigators, and other sundry search parties coming and going, had so dug-up, stumped, and trampled all over Aruba over any possible evidence in their mostly uncoordinated, unprofessional efforts, that in their zeal they had most likely destroyed any evidence the Aruban investigators may have found to actually break the case with! So much for Beth’s Aruban circus!!! Then on Friday the 18th the Nancy Grace Show announced that tensions were running high in Aruba, and that there was “bickering,” and “in-fighting” amongst the “search and rescue” teams brought in by the Twittys to the island, which appear to be competing with each other, and getting in each other’s way rather than enjoining in a consorted, coordinated effort (as if finding the remains of Natalee would be some kind of “trophy”!) to the point where one of them is threatening to “sue” the other. How ridiculous does it have to get???? How ironic that after so much criticism, and so many vile, and malicious attacks from the Twitty camp upon Aruban officials and investigators (of whom they often have publicly referred to as “unreliable,” and “inept,” since the very beginning of the investigation), for them now to be turning on each other with the selfsame viciousness, like a pack of rabid dogs, when facing failure!!!! “Poetic Justice” I should say!!!! If you couple this, to the many others who have joined the search in Aruba at the behest of Beth and her husband, who have brought into it such “advanced disciplines”, and are relying upon such “high-tech” equipment as “Dowsing Sticks”, “Talking Oracular Coffee Pots”, “Mysterious Boxes” capable of pinpointing human remains down in 180 feet of water from 200 feet away on the shore, and the like, I honestly, and truly marvel how anyone could possibly get offended, that someone would label the sum total of all this flurry of “chaos”, “activity,” and “extravaganza,” in conjunction to the “excessive,” and “inordinate” amount of media coverage it has been given for almost three months now, anything other than a “circus”???? What else comes even close to resembling this menagerie, that you could possibly call it?!?!? So, unless the web “chain-prayers” of all those faithful followers of all things Natalee on “Nat’s Place,” the “MSN Boards,” and other such sites on the web are answered, it seems that there will not be sufficient evidence to prosecute Joran, the Kalpoe brothers, or anyone for that matter in the case, and that come October the Aruban authorities will be forced to set Joran free, and Natalee’s disappearance will remain unresolved. This, by the way, was also the opinion of no lesser a “Legal Luminary”, and all-around “Expert on Sensationalism” than Geraldo Rivera himself, in the aforementioned O’Reilly interview! Things are falling apart in Aruba! So, at last it seems this “media circus”/“soap opera melodrama”/ “television news reality show” following Beth, her cronies, and their antics all over Aruba, which has hijacked our news channels for the last two moths, and captivated the banal attention of millions, will finally be coming to an end (about time!). Let us hope that television news coverage may not have been permanently damaged by these previous “Natalee Holloway/Aruba” excesses, and all the “extravaganza,” and that it gravitates back to some semblance of objectivity, journalistic integrity, and professionalism in future coverages, that once again we may focus on “real” news, and “issues,” affecting all of us as a Nation, and be able to get on with our collective lives! As for Natalee and Aruba, as in many folk tales concerning hauntings attributed to unresolved crimes, I will always look back with a certain amount of apprehension over my shoulder at my television set as I walk away while the news are on, lest the “phantasm” of Beth’s image may come to haunt us like a wailing Banshee in her shrill voice once again, on our screens!!! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 20, 2005 12:41 AM (6mUkl)

73 Aruba Paper Calls Natalee Holloway an Indecent Young Woman Aruba daily publication A.M. Digital maligned Natalee Holloway and her Mother Beth Twitty in Friday's issue and suggested the island needs to move on from the case in an extended piece with Psychologist Tony Green. “Frankly, we are tired of the Natalee Holloway story. It is as if it is the only important thing in life in this country.” The psychologist went on to criticize Natalee herself, suggesting she was at fault in her own disappearance and possible murder and that Mother Beth Twitty cannot accept that Natalee was not a "decent" girl. “She gives the impression that a corrupt Aruba caused this to happen.” The psychologist emphasized that this cannot be “...further from the truth.” He also emphasized that if the young lady was as “decent” and “correct” as her parents paint her to be, today we would not be searching for her. “Decent and correct young ladies do not enter a car with people that they have just met in a strange country that they are visiting for the first time and certainly not in the wee hours of the morning and without knowing where they are going.” Green remarks that he does not know any 18 year old, neither any 28 year old Aruban girl that would accept a ride from a stranger at midnight in Aruba, not to speak of, in a strange country. Green goes on to denounce both the chaperones on the trip for not being responsible, and suggests that American journalist Nancy Grace is ignorant and Aruba should not allow in any additional search teams - pronouncing the entire effort a "joke," before suggesting the incident is actually good promotion for the island. “Beth Twitty must pack her bags and go home and let Aruba continue its job without her interference, or that of the US, or that of the countless search teams that wish to go on digging , and running around with barking dogs.” “The immense fortune that this joke is costing Aruba is not justifiable in view of all the ridiculous propaganda that is being spread of Aruba by the US press. In spite of the negative propaganda that we are receiving, it still is good promotion for Aruba and will not affect us in the long run.” This post is also available at Blogger News Network.

Posted by: Althor at August 21, 2005 03:33 AM (6mUkl)

74 Last Thursday, Bob Costas, in a show of personal integrity and journalistic ethics rarely seen nowadays , refused to host the “Larry King Live” show for which he was hired by CNN as an occasional fill-in, because the show was primarily about the “Natalee Holloway” fiasco in Aruba which the media keeps “beating like a dead horse” on account of ratings. When asked about his decision, Mr. Costas said: “I didn't think the subject matter of Thursday's show was the kind of broadcast I should be doing," Costas said in a statement. "I suggested some alternatives but the producers preferred the topics they had chosen. I was fine with that, and respectfully declined to participate." The show’s guests included Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee’s mom, a television reporter; and an investigator in the case. Seven of the show's 10 guests talked about the events in Aruba for 50 minutes (an eternity in television time), hashing, and rehashing the same old stale facts, ever increasingly paranoid allegations by Mrs. Twitty, the latest rumors and innuendos from Aruba, and basically engaging in the same redundant melodrama we have come to expect of the participants night after night now for nearly three months. The last 10 minutes of the hour-long show, were devoted to another “sordid” subject: the BTK killer. Upon Mr. Costas’ refusal, Wendy Walker, senior executive producer of "Larry King Live," would have allowed Beth Holloway Twitty, to host the show herself, being she was the star of the show, but realized she needed someone to ask her the questions, since it would have been difficult for Beth to be the interviewer, and play the “Drama Queen” at the same time, and would have made the show even less credible, journalistically, than it already would be, so that at the last minute Chris Pixley was grabbed to fill-in for Mr. Costas. When asked about the fiasco, Larry King, the show’s host for whom Mr. Costas was supposed to be sitting-in, had no comments. Mr. King has already devoted several of his shows to Natalee, and Aruba. This brings home the question when is enough Natalee Holloway enough? For three months now the American media has almost exclusively focused on Natalee’s disappearance in Aruba, a case with very few pieces of known “solid” evidence, and having few significant developments all throughout that period, and which has been blown way out of proportion by the networks, and the pundits, who lacking credible information have had to resort to expounding upon the scant evidence to the point of absurdity, or rely on rumors, allegations and hear say to fill the void, all at the expense of reporting on other news and developments taking place here, and around the world which will have far greater impact on all of our lives. As much as we may all empathize with Beth Holloway Twitty and her loss on a personal level, this is a “family” tragedy, and not a “national” or “international” event, and should no longer be at this point, the “all-consuming” focus of the entire Nation, specially in light of the threats and challenges we are presently facing. In the words of Professor Jeffrey M. McCall, Professor of Communication at De Pauw University, Indiana: “Journalism textbooks highlight the concept of "high impact" news. This is the notion that news should focus on events that affect a large number of people. Beyond the emotions we feel over stories like Natalee.... few people beyond immediate family and friends are affected. Nobody's political priorities, economic decisions or social behaviors are affected by gawking at the latest Natalee update or following.... for days on end. Raising the profile and coverage of these highly emotional stories erodes the line between news and entertainment.” He concludes his observations by reminding us: “ First Amendment framer James Madison once said, “A well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.” Knowing all there is to know about Natalee.... will hardly contribute to maintaining our freedom..” So I say Kudos to Mr. Bob Costas! It was high time someone would have the integrity, and “cojones’ to stand up to this Natalee Holloway “media circus!” Kudos! Althor

Posted by: Althor at August 25, 2005 08:46 PM (6mUkl)

75 Althor, Do you not have a remote for your TV? You can watch something else if you do. Natalie was just a nieve young lady, who may have been drugged, forced into a car, or tricked into thinking it was a cab to take her to her hotel. Her family is a fine wholesome group of people that Americans can be proud of for standing by their daughter. As far as too much coverage, there is only too much repetition of the same news. I personally pray for Natalie and her family. I also thank Jossy Mansur for befriending them in their time of need. Some of the crude foul talking posts on this site by illiterate and ignorant people are what I find offensive. They shame all Americans. "Filthy Allah" is the most prominent one posting disgusting comments.

Posted by: Montani at August 31, 2005 06:37 PM (1aXrD)

76 Dear Montani, How could I have watched anything else, news-wise, when Beth had "hijacked" the media with her "soap opera", which only now the horrific events taking place in New Orleans may finally take out of her grip, due to their enormity?!?! The only two pundits that did not indulge in the "over the top," "excessive," coverage for the last three months, were Britt Hume of Fox, and Lou Dobbs of CNN, for which I highly commend them for their journalistic integrity, while everyone else "poured" a veritable "flood" of attention to this "non-event" at the expense of "swamping" out far more impacting news and developments taking place here, and around the world, day after day! Your arguments seem to bear the same "delusions," and "sacharinne stamp" of most Beth supporters. The "scant" evidence, and witness testimonies decry what you claim as false,and if you would trouble yourself to read some of my other postings you may see all the facts that point to this. However,I will no longer waste my time going over, and over the same ground I have already covered! I have sadly come to realize that this obssesion with "Beth and Natalee" many people have, seems to have turned for some into a kind of "cult" which they irrationally follow, so that were Beth to ask you all to drink your "poisoned Kool Aid" to help find Natalee, as Reverend Jones asked of his followers, unbelievably, many would! I believe at this point,that no matter how many times I may use "facts" to prove such "claims," and statements "inaccurate," since most likely you are not making an "intellectual," but an "emotional" stand on this issue, no argument or evidence, however reasonable, or compelling, will ever sway you, or other staunch Beth supporters, to change your mind! In the words of the song by Roger Whittaker: "...there's none so blind as those who will not see..!" At any rate, again, after the really "tragic" (not that crap that Beth passed for tragedy in Aruba with her performances) events taking place in New Orleans, and Biloxi presently, it's doubtful Beth will ever again "hog" the news broadcasts the way she has in the past! She's done! At last! Althor

Posted by: Althor at September 01, 2005 12:20 AM (6mUkl)

77 Sadly it appears Beth is like a bad penny. She's Back.

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Get use to it - it's not just Lodi folks, it's all around us where ever Muslims congregate. Again, we're seeing only the tip of the iceberg. And I'll keep saying it until you hear me. Remember - first the Saturday people(Jews), then the Sunday people(Christians), and during the process, there go our freedoms.

Of the image, not exactly what we want to allow to happen. "It's not just the mosques, it's their schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook, hostile to the prevailing order in the United States and advocating its replacement with an Islamic one" (Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, of the Islamic Supreme Council of America)."

Californtia Conservative(CC) posts on the S.F. Chronicle report:

“Federal officials investigating possible terrorism links in a Lodi case involving five men are questioning members of a Northern California Islamic group, apparently with an eye to linking it with possible extremist activities.

CC correctly notes - "Getting closer to home." That reference is to his home, but his comment should strike a nerve in every non-Islamic household in America and Europe. Islamofascism is getting ever closer to 'all of our homes'.

“FBI agents interviewed an official of the Farooqia Islamic Center in his East Palo Alto home this week and suggested that other leaders of the group had made inflammatory speeches about terrorism, the official said Thursday. In Lodi, agents went door to door conducting more interviews of Pakistani Americans in the investigation.

In San Francisco, FBI spokeswoman LaRae Quy acknowledged that agents from her office had been drawn into the investigation. She would not speculate about whether the Farooqia center was a front for extremists, but said, “Many legitimate organizations are hijacked for sinister reasons, for criminal activity.

FBI agents interviewed Mohammed Hakik on Tuesday at his house in East Palo Alto. Hakik, who is of Fijian descent, is listed in state records as president of the Farooqia Islamic Center.'Â’

CC appropriately provides the "Politically-correct" disclaimer: "The E. Palo Alto Islamic center is under investigation; no arrests have been made." Yes, in America we have a system of laws and we function under the premise that someone is innocent until proven guilty.

But let's realize too, that the Muslims are exploiting this and consider it one of our weaknesses. Have you asked yourself yet just where are the voices of so-called moderate muslims? Whether and to what degree the Muslim community as a whole subscribes to the Islamist agenda are open questions. "But what is not open to question is that, whatever the majority of Muslim Americans may believe, most of the organized Muslim community agrees with the Islamist goal—the goal of building an Islamic state in America. To put it another way, the major Muslim organizations in this country are in the hands of
extremists."

Do you think that this is just a bit of a reach, stepping from terrorism to the Muslim street? One need only look to what a Muslim who is not among the Islamists has to say on the issue of the Muslim agenda in America. Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, of the Islamic Supreme Council of America. According to Daniel Pipes, "in Kabbani's reliable estimation, such "extremists" have "taken over 80 percent of the mosques" in the United States. And not just the mosques: schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook, hostile to the prevailing order in the United States and advocating its replacement with an Islamic one."

So one more time! "... not just the mosques: schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook, and are hostile to the prevailing order in the United States and advocate its replacement with an Islamic one".

Continuing from CC's post:

In an affidavit made available to reporters Tuesday, the FBI said Hayat had attended a training camp that was “operated by Maulana Fazlur Rehman. " The FBI deleted all references to Rehman in a revised affidavit released Wednesday but did not remove the reference to the camp."

Rehman is actually Fazlur Rahman Khalil, according to Haqqani.

In 1998, Khalil was one of the three signatories of Osama bin Laden’s “fatwa calling for a jihad (Muslim holy war) against Jews and crusaders and the United States,” Haqqani said. He has since operated within plain sight of Pakistan’s government, which periodically reins him in and lets him return to action months later, Haqqani said.”

CC asks, "A jihad against Jews and the United States; who are the “crusaders?” And why isn’t Pakistan doing something about this?;"

Troubling times in California? Yes, and very troubling times in America!

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Now that I've got my Instalanche, I can just sit back and watch the hits coming. But in the spirit of solidarity to all my homies, here is what I'm reading this morning. Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta!

Others (following our lead) now reporting Zaraqawi dead, however all of us are relying on the same source. I'll try to contact some alternative sources about this and see what the Jihadi boards are saying. Laurence Simon, over at The Dead Pool, has a pretty funny poll going on Zarqawi's demise. Go vote early and vote often!

Suicide bombers, not content with murdering Shias in Iraq, murder 10 Suffis.

American soldier, not content with being dhimmi, becomes a Muslim.

Top Islamofascist cleric in Australia believes hostage, Douglas Wood, will be freed. No word on how he know this, who his contacts with the terrorist in Iraq are, and how come he knows how to contact the terrorists yet somehow the Australian government can't send a commando team in.

Can chicks have balls? Cause Cao has a massive set of cajones taking on the Islamofascists here.

Good news everyone! This Islamofascists in Iran may kill you if you convert to Buddhism but they will allow you to get breast implants!! Cause Allah loves big knockers.........

The Dukes of Hazard Suicide Bombing Manual!

John Donovan reviews The New American Militarism, How Americans Are Seduced By War.
by Andrew J. Bacevich

Quotes you're likely to hear in the near future: "He was really an o.k. guy, except for that whole chopping off my head thing."

Around the sphere:

Professor Chaos doesn't get a job at the Library of Congress because he's white, male, and not a transvestite.

As a Trojan alumni I'd say banning beer on 32nd Street would be more of a service to the neighborhood than banning beer at the Coliseum. You know, there might be less gay toga parties that way.

Dan Rather is a first class idiot. Period.

Man this guy is good. Real good.

Yes, to the horror of most of my readers, I support Marijuana legalization. Not for the economic gain, which Digger cites here, but because it's about liberty. The liberty to do stupid things, like getting crunched man.

Howard Dean: "The republicans are all about suppressing votes. Two voting machines if you live in a black district, 10 voting machines if you live in a white district." Trey Jackson has the video.

W. Thomas Smith interviews the very hot Janine Di Giovani on her experiences as a war reporter in Yugoslavia during the darkest days of the conflict.

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I'm starting to think Princess Leia was one of these Left wing idiotarians. Think of her foreign policy stance vis-a-vis the Empire. Governor Tarkin would never would never destroy Alderaan because it's a peaceful planet with no weapons that posed a threat to the Empire. If Abu Musab al Zarqawi could get a hold of the Death Star, do you think he'd spare France?

It's The Religion of Peace Update!

Images courtesy of Beth at My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and Gordon at Cranky Neocon.

Surprise: 40% of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi.

South Africa's Ward Churchill: US reeping what it sowed. And speaking of Ward Churchill, it turns out that indicted al Qada conspirator and US citizen Tarik Shah was a big Ward Churchill fan who has no problem smiling at you one minute and slitting your throat the next.

PS: American terrorist pleads guilty.

Jihadists continue war against infidels. And by infidels, we don't exempt all the quasi-Buddhists in suburban Marin County, CA, who, you know, support the terrorists. Oh and any Muslim who is not our kind of a Muslim is an infidel too. And Christians in Indonesia who when we're not oppressing were busy murdering when they get a little uppity.

Shock: Amnesty International is headed by an Asian Muslim women, gives Islamofascists and Asian mass-murderers a pass.

Better make that nukular materials intercepted on way to Iran.

Hussein trial to begin soon, left wingers already spinning conspiracy theory that trial will never happen.

And as leftists talk about the 'illegal war' and 'Iraqi right to resistance' justifying terrorist attacks, the Iraqis fear that the US will cut and run too soon and the NYT could care less. Meanwhile, blast hits Iraq airport. The terrozombies released this video last week of the same target. The US led offensive explained by some one involved over at the Paratrooper of Love's place.

'Terrorists' holding another doll hostage claiming he's a CIA agent. I should have the video and pics later.

Islam disrespected? And deservedly so!

Finally, not Religion of Peace related but FUNNY: Fugitive Found Duct-Taped to Porch

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