August 09, 2005

Pakistani Swaps Daughter for Election Win

(Islamabad, Pakistan) It's illegal to treat women and girls as property but it happens all the time.

From the Indo-Asian News Service:

A candidate in Pakistan's Northwestern Frontier Province gave away his 11-year-old daughter to his opponent in exchange for latter's withdrawal from next week' local elections, a news report said Sunday.

Daily Times quoted an unnamed election official as saying that Ajoon, a resident of Kohistan district, more than 120 km northwest of here, made the offer considering his opponent Vilayat Noor politically stronger.

The two men were the only candidates for the post of nazim, or chief administrator.

Ajoon also paid his opponent 200,000 rupees (about $3,300) to sweeten the deal.

This incident exemplifies the ineffectiveness of the national government in establishing and enforcing laws on remote regions of mountainous northern Pakistan. The thousand-year-old religious and societal customs endure despite legislative actions taken in the capitol of Islamabad.

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1 [Jake moves over to the Customers table] Jake: How much for the little girl? The women? How much for the women? Customer: What? Jake: Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children! Customer: Matre d'! Matre d'!

Posted by: Mumblix Grumph at August 09, 2005 04:08 AM (tS6IZ)

2 I would ask what the man expects to do with his new 11 year old daughter/wife, but I suspect the answer would make me sick and then possibly violent, so I'm going to pretend he is taking her to Disney World.

Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:08 AM (jPCiN)

3 So what? She's just tissue that's been born. Right Butch?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 09, 2005 09:20 AM (x+5JB)

4 She's a possession. Like an embryo only larger.

Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:39 AM (jPCiN)

5 It also explains why people don't want to return to the 6th century.

Posted by: bill at August 09, 2005 10:30 AM (QJhZY)

6 Maybe she CHOSE this. It's all about choice, man. That makes it okay.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 09, 2005 10:56 AM (x+5JB)

7 It's a cultural thing, and we know all cultures are equally good or bad.

Posted by: Carlos at August 09, 2005 11:14 AM (8e/V4)

8 Thanks for this story. I posted it on Gates under the "I Could Scream" banner. This kind of tribal, regressive, primitive "culture" isn't third world, it's fourth world. It's off in some sick zone by itself. However, I did make the comparison between this and the NYT "background check" on the Supreme Court nominee's kids. I figure maybe they think he's going to offer one up to the Judicial Comm. to get his nomination on to the floor. Or maybe offer one to the DNC.

Posted by: dymphna at August 09, 2005 02:44 PM (5CPMc)

9 Just a reminder, this girl is two years older than Aesyha was, when Mohammed the child molesting prophet consumated his marriage to her. Long live Lorena Bobbit!

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 09, 2005 03:41 PM (8sXP/)

10 Mrs. Murphy(Aretha Franklin):"Well, what'll you two have?" Elwood: "I'd like plain dry white toast, please, Ma'am." Aretha: MmHmm.(as only women can do it...) And you? Jake: I'd like one whole fried chicken. And a Coke. Aretha: MmHmm. Lord.... (Back in the kitchen "You ain't gonna beleive what these two white boys ordered. One ordered dry, white toast. Matt 'guitar' Murphy: "Elwood!!!!!!" Aretha: and the other one wants ONE, WHOLE, Fried Chicken.... Matt: "JAKE!!!" It's the Blues Brothers!!!!Damn!!!! Aretha: "where you goin'" That's such a great movie...

Posted by: Lonevoice at August 09, 2005 03:56 PM (TV0i8)

11 Mrs. Murphy(Aretha Franklin):"Well, what'll you two have?" Elwood: "I'd like plain dry white toast, please, Ma'am." Aretha: MmHmm.(as only women can do it...) And you? Jake: I'd like one whole fried chicken. And a Coke. Aretha: MmHmm. Lord.... (Back in the kitchen "You ain't gonna beleive what these two white boys ordered. One ordered dry, white toast. Matt 'guitar' Murphy: "Elwood!!!!!!" Aretha: and the other one wants ONE, WHOLE, Fried Chicken.... Matt: "JAKE!!!" It's the Blues Brothers!!!!Damn!!!! Aretha: "where you goin'?" That's such a great movie...

Posted by: Lonevoice at August 09, 2005 03:58 PM (TV0i8)

12 No YBP, she is more then tissue once she has been born. I have always said that once they are breathing, they have full rights as all of us. I also do believe in choice over blind obedience. The only time choice should not be involved is when it will harm another living entity, and you know of course my definition of living. But I would like to point out your hypocrisy. You are the one who goes on about "True Christians don't try to force their beliefs on to others", but not only are you trying to force you belief on to others, you want to make them law. But this just goes to show that you are a true conservative, trying to enslave the rest of the world with your views. As for the Blues Brother movie, that was great.

Posted by: Butch at August 10, 2005 05:23 PM (Gqhi9)

13 Butch, Butch, Butch: Why does the fact that someone has been born alter anything? Why aren't they fair game like unborn children? Why? What so sacred about "being born"? Isn't it Life that's sacred? "But I would like to point out your hypocrisy. You are the one who goes on about "True Christians don't try to force their beliefs on to others", but not only are you trying to force you belief on to others, you want to make them law. But this just goes to show that you are a true conservative, trying to enslave the rest of the world with your views." Forcing religious beliefs on someone would be like saying "You must attend THIS Church." Wanting to protect life is a little more basic than that. MANY religions condemn abortion, as did all civilized nations for thousands of years. Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right." We have laws to protect people who have been born. Is that a religious belief? Yes, but it's also common human decency. I want the same for the unborn. Married? Let's say that you and your wife really wanted to start a family. If your wife, pregnant for one week with your offspring, were killed by a drunken driver, would you only be thinking that one life has been snuffed out? What if she CHOSE to kill herself and the offspring because...just because. Would she have that right?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 11, 2005 03:15 PM (x+5JB)

14 YBP, I do agree that life is sacred, and should be protected. The point of disagreement between us is when does life begin. That is why those who are born are no more fair game then you or me. So for you to say that I condone the killing or enslaving of children is purely 100% slander. I don't. As you can see from my posts, I have never denied how I feel about "tissue" prior to birth. So why are you lying about how I would feel about a child after it has been born? You are right that protecting human life is just plain common human decency. And every government should make that their number one goal. But once again, what is the definition of life. "The period between birth and death.", maybe? As for "Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right."", people been having one form of abortion or another for thousands of years. It is nothing new. And since people have been having abortions for eons, that stands to reason that those people thought it was right. It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves. That has been done, and I heard is still sometime practice today. And making abortions illegal, is exactly forcing your believes on to us, pro choicers. Why? Because we don't believe what you. And yes, I am married. If you missed the post, I am married to a beautiful blonde bombshell from the Ukraine. And if she died while she was expecting, I would consider it to be a tragedy, but I would think of only one death. Even if she was 7 months pregnant, I would think to of it as 1 death. If it was you, would you buy 1 or two coffins, burial plots? What if your wife was pregnant, and she did something stupid, and had a miscarriage. Should she be charged with murder or manslaughter? Should all of these mothers be charged with injury to a child, if they are born with defects due to drugs or alcohol? On the lighter side, if life begins with conception, does that me I can retire in Feb of 2028 instead of Nov 2028 (age 65)? But I hope you see that, we have no disagreement on the sanctity of life after birth. We both agree that life from birth on is sacred. Now we differ when it comes to the nine months prior to that birth. And if you want to call me a "unborn mass murderer", that is fine and dandy. But when you say that I believe a child who has been born is nothing more then tissue, then you are committing a sin and breaking a commandment, of thou shall not lie.

Posted by: Butch at August 11, 2005 04:40 PM (Gqhi9)

15 I guess tissue is "fair game"

Posted by: Brad at August 11, 2005 06:31 PM (3OPZt)

16 Butch: "YBP, I do agree that life is sacred, and should be protected. The point of disagreement between us is when does life begin." Butch, even pro-abortion doctors agree that fetuses are alive! "That is why those who are born are no more fair game then you or me." Ummmm??? "So for you to say that I condone the killing or enslaving of children is purely 100% slander. I don't. As you can see from my posts, I have never denied how I feel about "tissue" prior to birth. So why are you lying about how I would feel about a child after it has been born?" Butch, again, what virtue does beeing being born bring about that so magically protects someone? What is it? Because a baby can eat and breath on its own? Babies are still dependent and need to be fed, no? What about babies on respirators? "As for "Now, people have been duped by social engineers that abortion is a "right."", people been having one form of abortion or another for thousands of years. It is nothing new. And since people have been having abortions for eons, that stands to reason that those people thought it was right." The fact that evil has been done is not justification for its legalization. "It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves. That has been done, and I heard is still sometime practice today." Bringing up another heinous practice #2 does not justify heinous practice #1. "And making abortions illegal, is exactly forcing your believes on to us, pro choicers. Why? Because we don't believe what you." But wouldn't any law that a person disagrees with be "forced" on him? Aren't some people who like to torture or kill animals "forced" to abandon such activities for the good of humanity? "And yes, I am married. If you missed the post, I am married to a beautiful blonde bombshell from the Ukraine. And if she died while she was expecting, I would consider it to be a tragedy, but I would think of only one death. Even if she was 7 months pregnant, I would think to of it as 1 death." So lets's say you you were both looking forward to the birth of your son or daughter intwo months, had picked out the furniture, etc., and some nut runs at you while you are both strolling along and drop kicks your blonde bomshell in her very-pregnant looking stomach. She miscarries. The mother has no harm done to her own body. Are you saying that you would be content that the individual's crime be simple assault? He would get, say, some months in jail, or community service, and may have to pay a fine for a new dress for wifey. And that would be justice? "If it was you, would you buy 1 or two coffins, burial plots?" Two plots, Butch, one for each body. "What if your wife was pregnant, and she did something stupid, and had a miscarriage. Should she be charged with murder or manslaughter?" It depends on what the "mistake" is. Is it intentional? Then yes. "Should all of these mothers be charged with injury to a child, if they are born with defects due to drugs or alcohol?" Yes! Aren't they already?! "On the lighter side, if life begins with conception, does that me I can retire in Feb of 2028 instead of Nov 2028 (age 65)?" You have my permission, Butch. At least, having not been aborted, you have the opportunity to retire at all. Brad: I just sneezed. Please pass a baby, er, a tissue.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 09:05 AM (x+5JB)

17 Here ya go YBP, I have one left. It’s 7 months old, from the Ukraine and has blond hair, blue eye and a beating heart. No good for anything but blowing your nose. “It is much better to have an abortion than to leave a newborn out in the woods for the wolves” Butch 2005 Just goes to show that you can find comedy just about anywhere. Btw, I have some friends who have the last name of Wolf. If these people came over to my house, would you say “The Wolves are here, or The Wolf’s are here?”

Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 10:03 AM (6mUkl)

18 YBP, the difference between being born and pre birth, is the same difference between an acorn and an oak tree. The acorn is not a tree. It is a potential tree. If you had a picture of an acorn, a car, a dog, a tree, and girl, and asked people on the street how many trees are in this pictures, guess what your answer will be? One. Have you ever heard of the "Miracle of Birth", well the miracle of birth is that a new human being is in this world. Once again, that is "YOUR" opinion that abortion is evil. But it is not the opinion of everyone. Besides evil can defined differently from religion to religion. That is why I say that it is up to the individual and God to decide what is evil. But is Society that must decide what is legal. But had I not experience the miracle of birth and had been aborted, I would not have to worry about retirement, because I would never, and I do mean never, not 1 month, 2 month what ever, existed. Then again, maybe my soul would just be waiting for the next available body to be "BORN". But since you and Brad do not have any honesty or integrity about my posts, and since this blog is getting farther and farther down the list, I will just leave off on this one, and let you two lie about me as you will.

Posted by: Butch at August 12, 2005 12:06 PM (Gqhi9)

19 Brad: FYI--Sale today at Costco in the paper on big 4-packs of babies, er tissue. The plural of the name "Wolf" is "Wolfs" without the apostrophe.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 12:18 PM (x+5JB)

20 I think we have moved on. They are now acorns. Terrible story about those wolves, must be what makes Barbara Boxer so passionate about getting the little guys first.

Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 12:31 PM (3OPZt)

21 Brad: "I think we have moved on. They are now acorns." Yes! And we musn't forget that "From little acorns grow mighty oaks." - Eugene O'Mahony "Terrible story about those wolves, must be what makes Barbara Boxer so passionate about getting the little guys first." That's it. Concern for the tissue getting all chewed up by the poor hungry wolves, and the resulting indigestion.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 12:46 PM (x+5JB)

22 We always take a back seat to these amimal rights wackos!

Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 12:52 PM (3OPZt)

23 Brad: Not to sound like a WOLF, but I have a brown bombshell from Minnesota. What color bombshell do you have?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 02:02 PM (x+5JB)

24 I have an Irish bombshell born in LA to an Air Force Dentist, who moved to WA after getting out. Married 17 years last March. Our friends the….Wolfs, frequently come over unannounced as their daughter has soccer practice Tues/Thus from 6/8 at a field far to close to our home. When the mom comes over to use our bathroom and get a glass of wine during our dinner, I always announce “The Wolves are here”. It was funny the first time.

Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 02:22 PM (3OPZt)

25 Brad: "When the mom comes over to use our bathroom and get a glass of wine during our dinner..." Someone needs to send her an Emily Post etiquette book. Hey, congrats on your long marriage. We Catholics have the right idea, eh? Give my regards to your Irish bombshell.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 12, 2005 03:54 PM (x+5JB)

26 Thanks, IÂ’ll give her your best. Ya, when divorce is not an option, ya just stay married. Re the Wolf, I think the Emily Post book would bounce off her head. Have a good weekend.

Posted by: Brad at August 12, 2005 04:14 PM (3OPZt)

27 Don't you just love it when the only defense of a position is to use the words: enslave, slave, nazi, kkk. Sounds like Mike Tyson after getting knocked on his ass the 20th time. The slave master did it. If he didn't it must have be Bush.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 12, 2005 10:58 PM (CBNGy)

28 Young Bourbon Professional trying to ENSLAVE the world. Ha. Ha. That's rich. And then he says "stop lying about me". Ha, Ha.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 13, 2005 07:22 AM (CBNGy)

29 Greyrooster: Alas, yes, I have been outed by Butch. I will henceforth be known as "The Enslaver"--a terrible tyrant who has the audacity to want it illegal for babies to have their brains sucked out by abortionists.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 13, 2005 09:57 AM (wIFLV)

30 It was FOUR (4) fried chickens and a coke!

Posted by: Jake Blues at November 07, 2005 08:46 PM (Mnznb)

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