)is practiced by Muslims and non-Muslims(mostly Muslims - how many Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or Janists do you know or have ever read of that condone this barbaric procedure?) alike residing mainly in Sub-Saharan Africa in countries that include but are not limited to Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya and Chad. A more minor form of the procedure is also performed in some parts of the Middle East and South Asia. Degrees of mutilation exist ranging from excision of the hood of the clitoris or clitoris itself to complete infibulation which involves removal of the clitoris, labia minora and labia majora, leaving a small opening for the passage of urine and menstrual blood.
As you might expect from the description of the procedure, normal sexual intercourse is not possible without a corrective procedure(you can only hope) and childbirth frequently involves severe trauma that can result in life-threatening hemorrhage. Other complications include chronic urinary tract and other infections, infertility, psychological trauma, sexual dysfunction, menstrual problems and several other negative medical and emotional outcomes. The procedure is performed on girls between the ages of infancy and pre-adolescence and is either carried out by a physician, midwife or designated woman from the community. Lack of sterile technique, use of the same instruments on more than one child, and lack of anesthesia all contribute to the complication rate which can even include infection with HIV.
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Interestingly enough, the SIC is all male. They all should set the example by undergoing a penictomy or maybe even a beheading of both types. What an even greater honor.
Posted by: the shadow nose at May 13, 2005 09:47 AM (E8xr7)
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oh, but who are we to judge the little brown people.
/guilt-ridden white Liberal
Posted by: Carlos at May 13, 2005 09:59 AM (8e/V4)
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That practice is optional but a good one because the main reason for "clit shorten ceremony" is to make it possible for female gender to control their sexual stimulation.Now you know the secret.Most people that know sex knows that clit is one part of the women's body easily used to stimulate sexual....Only sex crazy freaks don't agree with that practice!On methods of how to do the surgery(genital cutting),it should be upgraded.One more thing, genital surgery or cutting as you dramaticly put it, it helps to keep the private part CLEAN!
Posted by: m_o at May 13, 2005 09:59 AM (XlYXO)
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m o,
cutting off the helmet of someone's pecker works wonders for controlling the sex drive too. But I won't bet this will become a common practice over there any time soon.
Posted by: Carlos at May 13, 2005 10:03 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos, your post made me think of my bedtime reading last night. I have two volumes of Kipling next to the bed, and I just happened to open one on the page where "White Man's Burden" began. You are right, and so was he. If the poem were updated to be politically correct, all that would need be changed were three words; "white man" to "civilized person", and "sons" to "children".
Take up the Civilized Person's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go, bind your children to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait, in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.
Take up the Civilized Person's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain,
To seek another's profit
And work another's gain.
Take up the Civilized Person's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine,
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
(The end for others sought)
Watch sloth and heathen folly
Bring all your hope to nought.
Take up the Civlized Person's burden--
No iron rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go, make them with your living
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the Civlized Person's burden,
And reap his old reward--
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the Civilized Person's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloak your weariness.
By all ye will or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent sullen peoples
Shall weigh your God and you.
Take up the Civlized Person's burden!
Have done with childish days--
The lightly-proffered laurel,
The easy ungrudged praise:
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers.
May I be forgiven for the blasphemy of altering the words of such as Kipling, but I hope the point is well made. As hated as British colonialism was throughout the Empire, at this late date we can see in retrospect that the nations once governed by the British were far better off then than now. I can think of no better example than Zimbabwe, for one, which has under native rule become one of the most repressive, vicious, rapacious hellholes ever to stain Africa. When it was run by colonials, the people were far better fed, educated, and governed, but the blacks were not fully equal to the whites, so the hand-wringing, enlightened liberals of the West teamed with the savages of Communism to destroy it. Now Zimbabwe, formerly the propserous Rhodesia, is a wasteland, with liberals to thank.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 13, 2005 10:51 AM (0yYS2)
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M O ,
You are a moron. I could go on but why waste time on an idiot like you. Like now we know the secret. dumbass. If you are so worried about being tempted by evil women with clitoris' why don't you go and get yourself castrated. After all it is the testes that produce the hormones that make you want to screw women as well as that nasty habbit of pulling on your phallus every night.
Posted by: Howie at May 13, 2005 11:04 AM (D3+20)
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Come on, guys... FGM is an African custom that got absorbed into African Islam. It's not a standard Islamic practice anywhere outside of African influenced regions. It's even a crime in Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: John Burgess at May 13, 2005 12:54 PM (7HZOv)
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John,
it's barbaric no matter if it's African or Islamic.
Posted by: Carlos at May 13, 2005 12:58 PM (8e/V4)
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I always stick to my practice of: don't chop off other people's parts unless it's consensual!
Posted by: vaginal crusader at May 13, 2005 01:16 PM (WfZ6a)
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Tell you what I happen to like seeing womans goods intact. Cutting any part of her is sick, what is next, cutting off nipples so guys won't happen to see the outline of them in a womans shirt? Or will women be compelled to wear cloth bags to hide that feature. I have to wonder about a persons sexuality if they are so afraid of womens' bodies.
Posted by: Andre at May 13, 2005 04:11 PM (mfvPa)
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I will never, ever understand how such a backwards people, who can barely feed what population they have in their home countries now,can reproduce like freakin cockroaches.....i mean, let them continue this practice, if it will somehow lead to their population decreasing
Posted by: THANOS35 at May 13, 2005 10:16 PM (mZYh2)
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This practice usually occurs once a woman gets engaged to be married prior to her marriage. Several television shows have brought this savagry to light over the last several years. It is normally done by the eldest woman of the family because the father expects it to be done. The woman or girl could hemmorage to death; it looks like a forcible and mutilating rape (according to doctors here) and the mother will do it with the father watching on. When doctors here realize what it is, they usually find out the mother did not want to do this to their daughter but the father is adament. It's a horrible thing to do to anyone, irregardless of age and is supposed to stop the woman from straying from her marriage partner. It's disgusting and some do not live from it and the nations that practice it should be banned somehow to stop this horrendous mutilation practice. Muslim women in our nation sometimes will be killed by their husbands if they do not do this to their daughters. Everyone of them should be jailed - not the mother's, but the fathers who insist that it be done for they will find someone to do it if the mother or grandmother refuses it. They come here for freedom but carry this burden upon their daughters. It's absolutely disgusting and those mothers that balk against it are in as much danger than the daughter who also refuses it. There has to be a way to stop it here as well as over there. I don't have the answers but I do wish someone would come up with a way to end this torture and mutilation of these young women.
ewwwwwwwww It's been going on for centuries and they claim it is not harmful to the woman and no different than male circumcism, which is absolute bullshit.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at May 14, 2005 03:52 PM (PEKrh)
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That's bullshit!
It's just another attempt to present Muslims as barbarians. The so-called white-civizled men borrowed the Renaissence from the so-called barbarians.
A Ghambians who claims to be Muslim is not representative of the Islam. There's no point of pushing "Muslim" in front of the readers' eyes.
Respects to John Burgess!
Posted by: Pax at May 27, 2005 10:15 AM (OygnU)
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I will never, ever understand how such a backwards people, who can barely feed what population they have in their home countries now,can reproduce like freakin cockroaches.....i mean, let them continue this practice, if it will somehow lead to their population decreasing
...Thanos35
Hell...You are an ignorant arrogant narrow minded individual...You have no idea what a culture is...and I am sure you don have the mind to understand that...You are full of hate and negative attitude...A frustrated empty westerner! I don think you have outside of your small world...Open up your mind...there is more than what you think of Africa and Africans!
Posted by: malX at June 03, 2005 09:47 AM (BXYFr)
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muslims, hindus and islamics r a bunch of assholed bastard u cant even respect women! how dumb is that ok u know what me and my 78 friends came over my house and we burnt the butt ugly koran in my fire place i hate that book , i hate muslims they suck HEY U BUTT UGLY, FAT ASS STUPID UGLY SON OF UR BASTARD AFTHERS U ASS SONS AND MEN THAT R SOOO HATING WOMEN GET A FUCKING UPDATE U MUSLIM BASTARDS ITS THE 21ST CENTURY NO ONE HATE WOMEN IN AMERICA SO WHY DONT U MUSLIM BUTT UGLY MEN JUST BURN TO DEATH IN HELL U GUYS R THE ONE THAT R EVIL U RAPE, BURN UR WIVES AND U CALL WOMEN EVIL!!!!!!!! ( ROARING IN RAGE!!!!!!!!) SHUT THE FUK UP U GENITAL CUTTING SONS OF SATAN U GUYS SHOULD BE SADDAM HUSSEINS KIDS U DEMON MUSLIMS AND HINDUS AND ISLAMICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U BASTARD I CANT FIND A WORD STORONG ENOUGH 2 EXPRESS MY RAGE I YELLIN SOOO HARD AT U SONS OF BITCHS U SONOFABITCH GETAN UPDATE U HIDEOS ME OF THAT FUCKED UP MOHOMMED!!!!!!
Posted by: sabz at August 10, 2005 10:31 PM (c5fxO)
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