July 10, 2005
Backlash: Incidents in Britain, New Zealand
In addition to the following, there likely will be more reports of incidents of backlash against Muslims, adding challenges to law enforcers who already have their hands full.
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From The Statesman:
Fire broke out in a mosque in Leeds and a Gurdwara in Kent, amid the first indications of a possible backlash against British Muslims as police said tension in the country was increasing. About 70 incidents against minorities have been reported across the country since yesterday, police said, adding they ranged from the fires in the prayer halls to two possible assaults, cases of verbal abuse and threatening calls. Kent Police are investigating two assaults on Muslim men in Dartford.Interestingly, Britain's Sikh and Hindu communities are weary of possible attacks due to being mistaken for Muslims as happened after 9/11.
(Auckland, New Zealand) Prime Minister Helen Clark and other government officials condemned "mindless and stupid vandalism" which has occurred at about 14 Islamic places of worship in Auckland between Thursday and today.
From National Nine News:
Auckland's Muslim community found six mosques vandalised and walls tagged in graffiti with the message 'Londoners RIP' following the terrorist bombings in London that killed more than 50 people.There are about 40,000 Muslims in New Zealand out of a total population of over 4 million, about one percent of the citizenry.In what appeared to be a coordinated series of attacks in central, south and west Auckland, vandals smashed glass windows and doors and left variations of the same message in black paint on walls facing the street.
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Goddamit, now the qaedas are really going to be stirred up. AlJareeza is gonna report on what those racists did and then another round of blowback comes our way. I'm pissed and goin' miner bee hive drowning.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 10, 2005 07:02 AM (ScqM8)
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Compare and contrast the reactions:
"Vandalism occurs after bombs kill dozens" versus "Rioting kills dozens after alleged Koran vandalism" (e.g., flushing.)
Mote, meet beam.
Posted by: Russ at July 10, 2005 07:23 AM (utsLN)
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Muslims out of civilized countries. Get them out now. New Zealand needs to send them back where they came from. Muslims bring nothing but trouble to the countries they move to. Islam is a disease and should be treated as such.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 07:35 AM (CBNGy)
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DOWNING STREET MEMO: You are a cowardly shit eating dog. Nothing more. Pure garbage. And that goes for all your low life relatives that produced a piece of shit like you.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 07:37 AM (CBNGy)
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Where were these random violent acts when extremist clerics were calling for attacks on the United States, and Great Britain in the streets of England? (When they were banned from assembly in their Mosque)
The U.K should pressure the Government to expel and return to the country of origin all radical Muslims that support, and incite terrorism against them, If the clerics country won't take them back then imprison them.
While people turned a blind eye against those whom plotted their destruction, it will most likely turn out that the terrorist attacks were enabled and supported by the radical clerics/mosques the U.K Government has ignored for years.
It isn't hard to identify the people concerned they have been very vocal about their support for terrorism, and have been on the TV, Radio and the Internet. Expel them now!
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 09:11 AM (fsJ2z)
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No need for senseless violence. If people need to be deported for safety or security reasons, it can be done peacefully.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 10, 2005 09:27 AM (4di2R)
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DSM, you, and people who think like you will never be more than victims. You would lie in the the fetal position and take whatever abuse was handed out to you, never fighting back, because to do so might make your antagonists beat you more. Have your testicles descended yet?
Posted by: REMF at July 10, 2005 09:37 AM (aLiCo)
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I say good for them, but they really need to set an example. A few clerics strung up from light poles might send the right message, then watch the goathumpers leave in droves. Muslims have well demonstrated cannot live among civilized people.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 10:22 AM (0yYS2)
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How many of these acts of vandalism are committed by muslims themselves to "raise awareness" of the issue of "intolerance".
Posted by: Carlos at July 10, 2005 10:26 AM (8e/V4)
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YBP,
You misunderstood my original sentiment, I did not mean expel by force.
I was stating when the radical clerics and followers were stood in the street, preaching for the destruction of both the United States and Great Britain people ignored them.
Now you have random violence against Muslims that most likely did not have any part in the attack.
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 10:37 AM (fsJ2z)
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Well Dave, I think they should be expelled by force, because that's the only thing they understand. To muslims, if you don't fight back, you're weak and deserve to be conquered, but if you do fight back, you're against islam. They are a viral plague, plain and simple, and must be eradicated.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 10:42 AM (0yYS2)
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Carlos:'How many of these acts of vandalism are committed by muslims themselves to "raise awareness" of the issue of "intolerance".'
The Jews commit fake acts of anti-Semitism all the time to gain our sympathy. They've been caught red-handed doing so.
On another note, there's no evidence that the bombings were done by muslims.
Dave:'I don't think you will even find where I even said Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks, because I await the evidence behind that also', said Dave just a few hours ago.
Dave:'It isn't hard to identify the people concerned they have been very vocal about their support for terrorism, and have been on the TV, Radio and the Internet. Expel them now!', says Dave today.
Dave,
What I lying little shit you are. Your false piety has been exposed as pure unadulterated racist-based fascisim.
Fuck all you Nazis.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 10:44 AM (QeDgJ)
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Greg,
I think you've already expended what credibility you ever had months ago.
I still haven't said it was Al Qaeda now have I? I do believe the Government is looking for extreme Islamic militants involved with the operation, and have stated such publically.
I also stated people supporting terrorism should be expelled, do you have problems expelling militants from the country pinko?
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 10:49 AM (fsJ2z)
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"What I lying little shit you are. Your false piety has been exposed as pure unadulterated racist-based fascisim."
Is Islam a race now?, I always thought it was a religion.
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 10:51 AM (fsJ2z)
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Greg,
You must be on scared little man. Going around calling us all nazis when a little more than half the country feels the same way we do. Don't look now! That person next to you may be a nazi! If we were what you say we are, you would be a fucking lamp shade by now.
Posted by: Brass at July 10, 2005 10:57 AM (6TLEO)
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Dave:' do you have problems expelling militants from the country pinko?'
Not at all, we should start with Bush and his fascist minions such as yourself, KKKRooster (who at least has the testicles to admit he is a racist) and Probulus Lunatus.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 11:07 AM (QeDgJ)
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Russ:'"Rioting kills dozens after alleged Koran vandalism" (e.g., flushing.)'
Russ, you disingenious fuck. It was the peaceful rioters who were killed by the Afghan government, not the other way around.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 11:12 AM (QeDgJ)
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Peaceful rioters. Now THERE'S an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Greg, your ignorance shines through once again. Thanks for the ammo.
Posted by: Oyster at July 10, 2005 11:19 AM (YudAC)
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nicely tiptoed round the issues again Greg,
issue 1#
I stated that the British Government is looking for an Islamic terrorist cell in connection with the bombing:
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/10/ncrime10.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/07/10/ixportaltop.html
As usual Greg knows better than the people involved, just like when he told us all Terrorist bombers never carry their bombs in bags.
issue 2#
Is Islam a race now, seeing as you feel free to label me a racist for calling for the expulsion of radical Islamic clerics?
issue 3#
I asked you if you had a problem expelling militants supporting terrorism from the country, you in typical pinko behavior avoided the issue and turned it round to Bush/Rove etc.
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 11:20 AM (fsJ2z)
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>>"It was the peaceful rioters who were killed by the Afghan government, not the other way around."
"peaceful" rioters?
LMAO!!!! [wipes away tears] Thank you for that, greg.
Posted by: Carlos at July 10, 2005 11:21 AM (8e/V4)
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Dave:'Greg,I think you've already expended what credibility you ever had months ago.'
And Bush and Blair who lied us into war have credibility with you? Don't look now, but there's a government dick in your ass. Davey likey dickey. Him sooooo hawney! He lub Big Brotha long and hard.
Where's the beef Dave? Where's the evidence that muslims perpetrated these bombings? Cui bono? Big Brotha, that who!
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 11:23 AM (QeDgJ)
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YBP: No need for senseless violence????????? That's the friggin point. These Muslims dogs are prepetrating senseless violence on innocent people in the west. They only understand one way. Their way.
String their bastard leaders up. Enough is enough. Destroy any scumbag Islamic who advocates violence against innocent people sitting on a bus.
Time the end the muslim idea that they can kill us without us killing them. They are dogs who only understand violence, cruelty and treachery. That is their culture. That is their religion.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 11:27 AM (CBNGy)
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Greg,
I actually laughed out loud at your comment, which made me feel bad, because it's almost sad watching you de-evolve into a bacofoil wrapped, mouth frothing, cluebag.
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 11:27 AM (fsJ2z)
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Dave,
I go bye bye now. You keep sucky. Big Brotha luv you.He always watching you. You numba one good Joe.
Posted by: greg at July 10, 2005 11:28 AM (QeDgJ)
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Dave: Wasting your time with the traitor Greg. Go back to archives and you will get a true understanding of this anti American weasel.
He needs to be strung up along side of his muslim buddies. Additionally, he is totally full of shit. I spent a lot of time running him down. And I found nothing but a hot air blower.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 11:32 AM (CBNGy)
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He isn't anti-american enough to leave the United States though is he? despite his claims that Bush is a fascist dictator, and that America is an imperialistic empire?
I read his claim that after the next "faked" terrorist attack he's leaving for Italy, why are they always "waiting" to leave? why wait? the taxes you pay support this "illegal" war you claim the U.S is waging. People like Greg love the freedoms the U.S provide, but dispise the Government and the Soldiers that provide it.
PROVE US WRONG WITH THE COURAGE OF YOUR CONVICTIONS GREG, LEAVE THIS "IMPERIALISTIC" COUNTRY NOW!
Posted by: dave at July 10, 2005 11:41 AM (fsJ2z)
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I always wonder wheter people like greg or dsm actually believe the inanities they say or it's just some kind of idiotic disinformation tactic. The saddest thing is that by calling anyone who critizices Islamic terrorism as "nazis" or "fascists", they are only stimulating the rise of real fascism. Because truth is, if the politically correct governmments and institutions continue to take half-measures or even to do nothing at all against a growing radicalism, after repeated bomb attacks people in the street who ride the Tube and are therefore in the line of fire will not take it so lightly. And right-wing extremism will only grow.
Posted by: south american at July 10, 2005 11:47 AM (1kMex)
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by "right wing extremism" i mean vigilante-ism and support for fringe radical parties in Europe. In the US that's less of a problem.
Posted by: south american at July 10, 2005 11:49 AM (1kMex)
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I find it amazing that a moron like greg can simultaneously pronounce his hatred for Joooooos while calling other people Nazis. If anyone with a brain were to utter such cognitively dissonant drivel their head would explode. I guess leftards really do live in Bizzaro World®.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 12:08 PM (0yYS2)
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On another note: DSM is having a great time talking to himself in the thread below about Birmingham. Watching these two (Greg and DSM) spiral down into complete lunacy is like watching a train wreck unfold before your very eyes.
Just thought I'd have some fun with colored font. Don't know if it will work until I click "post".
Posted by: Oyster at July 10, 2005 12:14 PM (YudAC)
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Nope. Didn't work.
Posted by: Oyster at July 10, 2005 12:14 PM (YudAC)
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Memo to all British Muslims:
Now would be a good time to start turning in some of your
Homeys..start showing your fellow Brits that you do give a crap.
If not, it will only get worse for you. You can count on that!
M.W.
Posted by: Mighty Whitey at July 10, 2005 12:46 PM (Ynuss)
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Ain't gonna happen MW, they will stick together to death, because in their backward, childishly simple worldview, tribal loyalty and racist hatred trump any sense of right or wrong. They don't care how many innocent people die, as long as it's muslims doing the killing; they are a cult of death, and any humanitarian qualities islam might have once had, which were precious few and short-lived, have gone the way of the dodo.
Muslims have no grasp of shame, justice, compassion, righteousness, or any other sublime abstract concept; their culture stopped evolving about the end of the stone age, which is why the only practical way to bring islamic socities into the modern age is by means of force.
Savages only understand brute power and ruthless violence, so let's give 'em what they know, and once they're beaten down, show the survivors how to behave as civilized people. It's already working in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it will work in the rest of the world blighted by islam.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 02:05 PM (0yYS2)
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Sad but true.
M.W.
Posted by: Mighty Whitey at July 10, 2005 02:24 PM (Ynuss)
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Muslims have no grasp of shame
Sure they do. It's just that they end up "honor" killing their female relatives to expiate their shame.
Posted by: Russ at July 10, 2005 04:21 PM (utsLN)
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SOUTH AMERICAN: Well said.
Holy shit. IM's post makes sense.
Mighty Whiteys post makes sense.
Oyster's post makes sense.
Damn it boy! We're on a roll.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 04:30 PM (yMx70)
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Came back from Vegas early. Boarded house up.
Fueled all cars, trucks, etc.
Did all checks on generator. Everything ready. Sat here all day waiting for hurricane.
We need to change the hurricanes name from Dennis to Greg.
Nothing but a little hot air.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 04:35 PM (yMx70)
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Dave: My comment wasn't directed at you, friend.
Greyrooster: I was speaking out against senseless violence. Burning mosques down and beating people up in the night seems like a criminal hoodlum acts and beneath any civilized government. Mosques? Close 'em down. If the Brits want to deport Moslems for security or safety reasons, it should be done in an orderly matter, using force only if necessary--kind of like, "No offence, but your presence here is no longer wanted, and you are not safe. No hard feelings. See ya." I'm talking about the non-violent chaps here--not the rabid terrorist supporters who denounce the very country in which they live. They can be sent on a small raft back to whence they came.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 10, 2005 06:22 PM (4di2R)
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What I was referring to Russ was personal shame, in the context of being ashamed of what one has done; regret you might call it. Muslims generally lack this capacity, which is tied to one's humanity, and it is clear they have neither. I think this is one reason they hate the Jews so much, because Jews are so different from muslims in so many ways, but especially in their humanitarianism.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2005 08:08 PM (0yYS2)
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Gimp, you have no shame, calling for mass murder of millions you never met. You and Greyrooster/Bablar are human scum, smelling like unlubricated jailhouse sex.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 05:49 AM (ScqM8)
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You made me so Mad!!! You goddamned felching klansman greyrooster. That hurricane was meant for you to cancel out your evil wind. You are a sick racist disgrace who prowls movie theaters for young unwilling partners. If you are so gung ho, JOIN THE GODDAMNED ARMY and go over to Iraq or Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. He's probably your good twin.
I poured gasoline down the gopher holes today and smoked 'em out!!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 11, 2005 06:13 AM (ScqM8)
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I'm not surprised that DSM lives in a place infested with rats. Or rather I should say that rats live in a place infested by DSM. I think I would take the rats as neighbors, since they generally only are minor irritants and don't go around setting fires. Pyromania is another symptom of psychosis.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:43 PM (0yYS2)
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YBP: Greyrooster has decided you are just to nice a person to run my kick the muslims out campaign. I will not vote for you.
I figure we are fighting two wars. One against liberal morons and one against barbaric muslim terrorists. One is as bad as the other.
Not saying your wrong. We all have out ways to meet the end.
However, you be Roosevelt and I'll be Patton.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 08:32 PM (CBNGy)
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Downing Street Memo: You sorry assed muslim hugging piece of shit.
Were you wearing your Malcom X shirt during todays prayers.
Don't you know the muslims enslaved black asses like you? Hell, in some countries they still do. Whats a matter with you BOY. You to stupid with jealousy and hatred for your betters that you can't see the truth. How do you ever get anything done when you must pray to a goat fucker 5 times a day. I guess you don't get anything done. Just wait on the de check.
You friggin loser.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 08:39 PM (CBNGy)
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This asshole Downing Street Memo seems to know a lot about jail house sex.
Ain't my fault to are what you are. Blame it on your jo mama and jo daddy. Not that you know who he is. (Just playing the odds).
Yea! I'm a racist. I think white people are great. The best. Number one contributor to medicines that save lives. Number one contributor of inventions to advance civilization. Number one in helping other races. Number one in everything. Everyone else copies us and then complains. If your jealous of white people its your problem.
Personally, I believe this entire shit eating muslim thing is as much racial as religious. I wish the rest of you luck, but it's hard to get up with the best. And us white folks are the best.
Your typying on a computer invented by a white people. Along with everything else. Just look around. Asshole.
It's hard to be humble with this beautiful white skin. The most beautiful thing in the world is the north european blond. And you turkeys know it.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 08:56 PM (CBNGy)
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AS far as serving. I served with the 2nd Batt 26th Marines in Vietnam. Twice.
My father was a pilot in the Army Air Corp and was killed by the Japanese in 1943. I was two.
My father's younger brother had his hip blown away in Korea and was crippled the rest of his life. My son is a Captain in the Marine Corps now serving his second tour in Iraq. I even recently got to see him on television telling some of your muslim friends, that they were liars and they were supporting the terrorists.
So, how does a piece of shit like you say to me, go join the Army? You low life shit. If I wasn't 63 years old I would be there. My service record is in Kansas for all to see. And I am particularly proud of it. My license plate has a purple heart on it. What does yours say? I've got a wall full of stuff to prove who I am.
Now! who the fuck are you? Where and when did you serve this country. You cowardly bastard. No where, thats where. Dog shit like you doesn't serve their country. They live off their country.
You frigging low life snake. Shit, my wife just retired after 30 years as a military Officer. Shes more man than you.
In finality. FUCK YOU PUNK!
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 09:17 PM (CBNGy)
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Prove it Mr. Klansman - post your DD200 or whatever you call it you nyppletwists call it and keep demanding from Kerry. JOIN THE ARMY AND GO TO IRAQ!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 12, 2005 08:39 AM (ScqM8)
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Hi guys,
Anybody can tell how people are agitated here about the mayhems that happened in London. I also understand the ubiquitous antipathy and odium heaped upon all muslims living in the west -- and even everywhere. As a muslim, I want to ask a small question. What am I supposed to do to offset this animosity?
I utterly condemn what occurred in London, US, Madrid, and elsewhere. I categorically despise and deplore killing innocent people. But I am very scared of my being, presupposedly, accused of being sympathetic with terrorism -- or even a terrorist. Also, I want to live, work, and excell in this country. I don't want to banish back to the rotten middle east countries.
Please people, don't tell me go drown yourself in a bucket or eat whatever -- I am getting more stolid to hearing malediction these days. Put yourself in my square, what are you supposed to, or can, do?
Regards
Posted by: Kim at July 12, 2005 02:22 PM (uUFiY)
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Kim: We are hostile to terrorists, not Moslems per se.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 12, 2005 03:06 PM (x+5JB)
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Kim: Easy. Quit being a muslim. This nation was founded on North European Christian principles and has a superior government because of it. I am not a Christian. The nation you come from sucks because it is muslim. Muslims do not fit into this society. We do not trust them. I disagree with my friend in the above post. If you wish to join a better society leave Islam behind. Then you will be welcome. In plain English if you wish to be an American, act the part, muslims will never be accepted as true Americans and you know why.
Good luck on your decision.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 13, 2005 12:30 AM (CBNGy)
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DD200: Stupid asshole
Posted by: greyrooster at July 13, 2005 12:32 AM (CBNGy)
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Kim, you don't have to stop being Muslim per se, but you do have to make a choice. You can choose to love America, and swear to stand by your fellow citizens and countrymen, whether black, white, or brown, Moslem, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, or atheist. You can choose liberty and justice over fanatical, hate-filled dogma. If you love liberty more than life, then I will stand with you, but if you choose to put your faith above your duty as a citizen, then you will never be an American, because part of what makes us Americans is not our place of birth, or religion, or political party, but a love of country and a willingness to die for it if need be. I dare say that many foreign born Muslims would make better citizens than many natural born Americans, and in fact I know one who is a good man and a good citizen. It's what's in your heart that counts, nothing else.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 01:51 AM (0yYS2)
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Mr greyrooster: I appreciate your advice. It is indeed a for-all panacea solution. I also agree with you that North America and, mainly, Europe is founded on christian beliefs. Although we are living in a secular society, where the state is purportedly separated from the church, but the intangible christian nature of the state is omnipresent. A quintessential example is the Christmas. I also agree with you that the mainstream attitude is skeptical, if not hostile, towards muslims. Something that can be easily inferred from even the very limited pool of the society represented in this forum.
However, I understand liberty, and correct me if mistaken, as the freedom of choice as long as you abide with the law. This country has always embodied, and boasted of, this motif. Accordingly, I belive that my being unfit in the society based on my religion contravenes the word liberty as I understand it. I would like to mention that the human history is abound with similar, if not more ghastly, stereotypical vilification of certain ethnic or religious groups. Jews had consistently been persecuted all over Europe for centuries. Just an example, during the outbreak of plague in Europe, they were accused of poisoning the wells. Myriad of them were burnt under the prying eyes of the clergies. They were stereotyped based on their religion, and even based on Judas or Caiphas. The suffering of black people in US -- lynching, slavery, etc. They were stereotyped based on their skin color. However, this society could perform self remedy and moved on. I won't lose my faith in the definition of liberty as I understand it.
I. Maximus: Your opinion is moderate and adheres more to my perception of liberty. Irrespective to one's religion, the law is our God. There can not be such contradiction between both of them, unless one has misapprehended the word law. Religion is a spiritual, and in some cases moral, practice -- nothing more. The comparison between religion and law is invidious because you can always renounce a religion while not for law. In ranking priorities, would place religion ten places behind law, conventional wisdom, common sense, self-discretion, mores, etc.
I am still indecisive between Mr greyrooster and I. Maximus. One opinion is more pragmatic and the other is more conceptually sound. I hope that the one can opt with the second one innocuously. I wish not to see my sister and mother attacked again because they wear scarves. I hope that one day I will be forgiven of a sin that I didn't commit.
Thanks all
Posted by: Kim at July 13, 2005 04:15 AM (uUFiY)
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Kim: No one should be attacking anyone who is not causing violence to others. I'm in yet a third position from greyrooster and IM, both of whom I consider good and wise friends. They would probably disagree with me on what I am about to say. I believe that Christianity is the true faith. It offers true freedom, and that's why you should leave Islam behind. It is a dangerous practice based upon hatred. There is sufficient proof that it is a man-made religion meant to trick men into false worship and thus lose hope of salvation. It is a dangerous practice based upon hatred and lies. Check out...
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
and...
http://www.secularislam.org/Default.htm
Also, my faith is more important than my nationality. The ist commandment states that Christians must honor God. America, at the moment, is the best country in that I am given the freedom to do this (i.e., practice my faith). We must safeguard these freedoms in this great country.
May The True God bless you and lead you to the Truth.
YBP
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 13, 2005 07:53 AM (x+5JB)
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Kim: By your answer I see that you will remain a muslim. Mentioning Jews, blacks, etc: is merely a excuse. Jews or Blacks have not invaded and enslaved any other nations that I know of. Example: Muslim Arab enslavement of Spain for 700 years. Muslim Turks invading and controlling Greece for 400 years. Religious wars in India. We could continue on and on. You seem to be an intelligent person so I will not insult you and pretend you do not know the history or your own religion.
The truth is Islam is trouble for other religions and non religious people. I'm not interested in why.
My advice. Stay out of America. You are not ready to be an American. Islam and American society do not mix. Trouble is brewing.
I do not lie. Therefore, I will tell you I am against muslims in my country. You people merely wish to come and take advantage of what others have paid for in many ways. You are not coming here for freedom of religion or freedom from religion. Your religion does not allow for people like me (seeking freedom from religion) therefore you are my enemy. Just that simple. Yes, I will throw tomatoes at islamics. My way of showing my disaproval of muslims in my community.
Nothing personal. Pick up a newspaper. Watch Television. Listen to the Radio. Every where there are muslims there is trouble. So please do not come here with your trouble. If you do, I will fight against you. The good side is that I will fight you the American way. Eye to eye, man to man. Not with sneaky bombs. I will not attack your women and children as muslims do.
You cannot be a good American and be a muslim at the same time. Leave Islam behind and join a superior society or be gone. Your choice. I wish you luck and I sincerely mean that. I wish happiness to all men. But not at the expense of mine and my people.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 14, 2005 12:16 AM (CBNGy)
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Mr greyrooster: Just for peace of mind, I have no plans to come to US. I thought that you were talking about New Zealand, that is why I said the west in the first post. However, for candor, I do live in a western country. Thanks for the wishes and the intelligent description. I am just a humble guy trying to understand what is going on.
More later
Posted by: Kim at July 14, 2005 04:47 AM (uUFiY)
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i think the time has come to reopen the concentration camps.the muslims deserve someone like hitler.they have become international troublemakers creating terrror in madrid,london.israel and palestine,chechnya,bali,philippines,kenya,kashmir,decapitating hostages in iraq.........etc,etc.
their primitive religion is the source of the current wave of global terrorism.the serbs were doing a good job in bosnia until america and nato turned into meddling busybodies and needlessly intervened there and in kosovo.
Posted by: anti_jihad at July 14, 2005 10:46 AM (cNsZk)
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i think the time has come to reopen the concentration camps.the muslims deserve someone like hitler.they have become international troublemakers creating terrror in madrid,london.israel and palestine,chechnya,bali,philippines,kenya,kashmir,decapitating hostages in iraq,the terror of 9/11 in america.........etc,etc.
their primitive religion is the source of the current wave of global terrorism.the serbs were doing a good job in bosnia until america and nato turned into meddling busybodies and needlessly intervened there and in kosovo.
Posted by: anti_jihad at July 14, 2005 10:47 AM (cNsZk)
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in my country india,in the state of gujarat,in february 2002 these muslims tried their jihadi tricks by burning alive 58 hindu,men women and children travelling in a train.the hindus then paid them back in the same coin,through savage reprisal riots which killed over 2000 muslims,and over 150,000 of them had to take shelter in refugee camps.entire villages and large parts of the countryside was emptied of islam.most of the muslim deaths occured through the same methods used to attack the hindus in the train,by burning alive.a clear message was sent to the muslims in gujarat that their jihadi ways will not be tolerated.peace has prevailed in gujarat ever since.
Posted by: anti_jihad at July 14, 2005 11:01 AM (cNsZk)
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it's racist comments that stir everyone up. i'm not a muslim nor do i have any arabic background but i don't see the point of cursing at the islamic community whenever a terror attack occurs. it's racist bastards like WINSTON PETERS that will attract the attention of those terrorist organisations. i am an american citizen and i believe that the arabs are asking to take back what's theirs from the beggining. they are not trying to start a new world order. it's the US government that's doing this! but i am aware that i will serve and protect my fellow americans and australians. we cannot solve war by peace but by irradicating those racist pricks that loves to stir up shit...
Posted by: kalani at July 18, 2005 06:49 PM (KehFq)
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Muslims freed the black. but enslaved the white(Romans) the black slaves were slaves before Islam and since Islam didn't go with war with Black africans. Muslims dont have the right to enslave blacks. But because there were wars with the Romans ( the ancestors of white people ) then Muslims have enslaved them and they became slave to us. However the ideoligy that slaves are only black has come from the White people (the westerners) who concorred Africa stole from its wealth enslaved their people. Most blacks in America their ancestors came from West Africa ( Most of them were Muslims and then forced to Christianity) these west Africans were free people so the people who made them slaves are the Wsterns not the Muslims because they were themselves free Muslims !!!
Posted by: Abdullah at July 19, 2005 09:41 AM (3kd4e)
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It's about time for a little backlash. Today Canada's Minister for Public Safety held a meeting with community Imams in a Scarborough mosque and was told that 'She and the Canadian Government should stop threatening Canadian Muslims OR THEY COULD PROMISE TO GUARANTEE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN!' In other words they threatened her to her face...a veiled threat but a threat all the same.
I say it's time for a little backlash. If it doesn't come now it's going to be awesome when it does come. The story of this insulting encounter is at littlegreenfootballs.com "Imam Threatens Government". How DARE they behave like that? Frankly, I say if people are exhibiting hostility towards Muslims, it may be because they have BROUGHT IT ON THEMSELVES!
Posted by: foreign devil at July 25, 2005 03:54 PM (SOh3V)
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Very interesting and mature conversation we are all having about Islam. It made my day when I stumbled on this website. I really feel sorry for most of u. I'm a muslim and dont care of what u nobs think (the ones who are racist anyway). This intelligent conversation made me laugh really. U can swear at us, be racist to us, TRY to kik us out of our country (I was born in UK so that makes me British and therefore my country), kill us but u will layways be sad PATHETIC losers. Get a fukin life Weirdo's. Take care all u who arnt racist bigots.
Posted by: Ibster at July 27, 2005 09:33 AM (wz1dD)
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Fuck these dirty bastards I don't care say what you want but i'm not some dumb uneducated fuck ok. These People the dirty muslims do smell bad go to there neighborhood and take a wif I swear to god you will smell some wierd stuff. But anyways alright I can guarentee you if Someone attacked say Lybia by hijacking there planes and shit and hitting there buildings they would flip out say screw the IN and all the rational meens they want us to do and they would attack someone. They are stupied and uncivilzed so they can be ignorent.. Look at the fact that No Europeans Latins or Blacks move to there countries and saysa give us special rights and change laws and bitches to them no that is not right. If you move to someone other people's countryyou foolow there rules ok I no that all the euro pean countires are th emost up to date and richest "explain that huh were the freking minority of the world but we controll it damn we must be doing something right o wait were smart ya and tough" . If you move to a forgien country and your people attack them then you will be looked at with suspicion i mean fucking come on what are we supposed to do not profile them there blowing shit up cause there armies are the strength of a all women regiment of europeans or americans so they can't affored real weaponds either that must be cause there not equal to us so these people will learn the hard way when you wake the dragon shhit will happen to you dirty fucking animals fuck you and die goodbye
Posted by: Marco Zuccaro at July 30, 2005 06:17 AM (yKGfe)
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I think it's so ironic that a so called "peace loving" nation can resort to such uncivilized ideology. You have to understand, when Hitler committed genocide the world didn't codemn all christians or caucasians for that matter, they condemned hitler. Here we have an avenue for dormant racists who have been looking for an excuse to expel any immigrants, not even just muslims. They are looking for a reason to be racist and they pray on those who are emotionally affected by the london bombings. Remember hitler did the exact same thing with a nation that was being humiliated by the allied powers. There was no problem for the decades that muslims have been in Britain or any western country for that matter, why now? Just because four 'homegrown' bombers took out their frustration. I don't condone it but i don't condemn it I just believe that it is the natural flow of human nature. Death committed by the UK or US will lead to Death of Muslims and Vice versa. Death creates more death. I love living in canada but i also know that its the people I like and not the way of life.
Secondly, if you think that all muslims act the same or think the same then you are just unintelligent and lack any sense of logic. A black cristian kills a bunch of people at his former job that means all black wait all christians are murderers....no.
THis has nothing to do with foreign policy or religion this is more to do with a few individuals in this world getting more attention then the intelligent ones. Whether it's Osama or Bush there all just figureheads and get the attention they dont deserve. Let's be really honest we got a bunch of idiots on this message board who lack any vocabulary that isnt a swear word. You look more like an idiot when all you do is curse and believe that anyone actually is scared of your words.
Posted by: Aiman at July 31, 2005 02:37 PM (zrSDy)
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It's about time all mosques in my country were demolished, if you muslims want to worship your false god do it back in the middle east. you are not supposed to be here, All this bollocks about seventy virgins waiting for you in paradise, if you sub human muslims believe that, no wonder your fucking up every country you letch into.
Posted by: English at August 08, 2005 03:02 PM (F1nba)
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