November 02, 2004

New Prediction: Electoral Vote Tie!!

Ok, call it a political-scientist's wet dream, but I just calls it likes I sees it. The Electoral Vote will be a tie!! Something that has not happened since the election of 1800, and in that election the tie was a mistake that resulted from a Constitutional flaw. This could get interesting....am I the only one out there who now thinks this has gone from a possible scenario to a likely scenario?

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UPDATE: In case of a tie, the decision goes to the House of Representatives. The interesting catch is that each state gets a single vote in choosing the President in this case. The Republicans have a 12 seat majority in the House, but that would not automatically translate into a victory for Bush. Why? Again, each state gets one vote. Here's a question for my readers, which I don't know the answer to: How many state delegations to the US House of Representatives have more Republicans than Democrats? The Constitution does not clarify how the state delegations would decide which person to vote for, but presumably each delegation would meet by themselves and vote amongst themselves.

The Senate would then get to choose the VP, and since the Republicans have an advantage, you have a Cheney victory.

Steve over at Poli-blog makes some good observations in his last Toast-o-Meter. Looking around at the predictions, I'd say I'm the only one that really thinks the 269-269 scenario is likely. This roundup of roundups has no one else predicting it this way.

Megapundit will be upudating their Unofficial Poll Results all day (via Discarded Lies)

Shout out to Bill for dropping the Sith Lord Cheney reference. Vote or Lord Vader will crush your windpipe!! And from Bill's post a link to one of Dean's which shows the Dark-Side must be powerful in the military.

Note to Dean: I get uncomfortable with all this talk of the 'back door' on the same day I do a Wonkette post. Anyway, even with so many military votes going Bush, I still think Florida goes Kerry and we end up with the 269-269 scenario.

Note from Demosophist: One of the W. Virginia electors has said that he won't vote for Bush under any conditions. He's a maverick. Have you figured that into your predicition?

No, hadn't thought of that. But I also hadn't factored in the fact that one of Maine's electors might go Bush (Maine splits their electors by House District). So, it's a wash!

Ok, Pixy Misa, the god of the munuvians, drops this in the comments: There are 30 Republican-majority state delegations in the House, 16 Democrat, and 4 deadlocked. So an Electoral College tie is a Republican win.

Ouch, are the early numbers really saying "Please Rusty, don't hurt em?" I mean, is this looking like vindication or what?

Linked with today's Jimmy beltway fest.

Posted by: Rusty at 02:54 PM | Comments (22) | Add Comment
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1 A tie is supposed to go to the incumbent, yes? Well, let's be realistic - it'll go to the lawyers. May the best firm win!

Posted by: Ricky V at November 02, 2004 02:58 PM (AHaCg)

2 That would make a Bush-Edwards result possible, wouldn't it, sir? Thank you.

Posted by: rev rick at November 02, 2004 02:59 PM (TG49H)

3 Possible, yes, but not likely. There are 51 Republicans in the Senate.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 03:00 PM (JQjhA)

4 I thought the VP comes in to break the tie.

Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2004 03:02 PM (6krEN)

5 Jane, nope. The VP is chosen by the Senate, the Pres by the House.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 03:10 PM (JQjhA)

6 This would make a great reality TV show for FOX! I'm seeing Johny Cochrane as the host, unless Kerry has him heading the team. My Fat Obnoxious President, perhaps? Hmmm... they aren't really fat though.

Posted by: LMAO at November 02, 2004 03:21 PM (p5xDI)

7 I wish we could resurrect 'That's My Bush' from Comedy Central.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 03:26 PM (JQjhA)

8 Is that scenario possible => President/Vice from differnet parties???

Posted by: Roopesh at November 02, 2004 03:31 PM (q9wBH)

9 Yes it is, but not likely. It's all right there in the 12th amendment.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 03:44 PM (JQjhA)

10 That's My Bush was f'n hilarious!!! Have you seen the pilot for American Dad? It's done by the Family Guy ppl. You should check that out.

Posted by: LMAO at November 02, 2004 03:51 PM (p5xDI)

11 Any elections going on in any foreign countries I could stick my nose in?

Posted by: greyrooster at November 02, 2004 03:53 PM (CBNGy)

12 Thanks for the trackback, Rusty :-) A tie? Oy. I hadn't even considered a tie when I started chewing my fingernails.

Posted by: zorkmidden at November 02, 2004 03:53 PM (q9kwd)

13 American Dad pilot http://www.muchosucko.com/video-americandadpilot.html Hope you think its as funny as i did. If you haven't seen it already.

Posted by: LMAO at November 02, 2004 03:54 PM (p5xDI)

14 LMAO--haven't seen that one. Zorkmidden, no problemo. Greyrooster, yeah, I hear that the Brits may be calling new elections. Maybe we can start a letter writing campaign?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 03:56 PM (JQjhA)

15 Rusty: I've a question about the tie scenario. One of the W. Virginia electors has said that he won't vote for Bush under any conditions. He's a maverick. Have you figured that into your predicition? Do you think he'll be replaced, or that someone will change his mind?

Posted by: Demosophist at November 02, 2004 03:59 PM (OtR16)

16 No, I hadn't factored that in. Interesting. But I also didn't figure in that one of Maine's electors might go Bush.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 02, 2004 04:07 PM (JQjhA)

17 There are 30 Republican-majority state delegations in the House, 16 Democrat, and 4 deadlocked. So an Electoral College tie is a Republican win. Now, if there was a tie in the House as well, then the VP would be called in to break the tie. Wouldn't that get the Left's knickers in a knot? Won't happen, though.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 02, 2004 04:42 PM (+S1Ft)

18 Just checking to see if this remembers me...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 02, 2004 04:44 PM (+S1Ft)

19 Nope.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 02, 2004 04:45 PM (+S1Ft)

20 Rusty, there's something wrong specifically with how you have your comments set up, above and beyond the MuNu problem. I'll take a look later today.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 02, 2004 04:46 PM (+S1Ft)

21 Exit polls are showing that fewer than 10% of the votes came from young voters, therby squashing any hopes that they would be the ones to sway the election toward a Kerry win. There's still hope!!

Posted by: Laura at November 02, 2004 07:01 PM (ptOpl)

22 Anyone realize that the vote in Penn. was much closer than the vote in Ohio. Say what!!! We need a recount. We've been cheated.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 08, 2004 10:35 AM (aq8Ok)

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