February 08, 2006
Academic Freedom (Except to Criticize Islam)
Guest commentary by Inigo Montoya: Freedom. You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.
American professor fired for showing cartoons to students in UAE. Here is the money quote:
Shaikh Nahyan emphasised that there is freedom of opinion and expression in the UAE, as well as academic freedom enjoyed by all educational institutions, but what happened in Zayed University does not relate, in any sense, to any relevant concept of freedom.
In all honestly, it's not like American universities are much more free.
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If there is no freedom to criticize Islam, there is no freedom. Simple, that!
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 08, 2006 06:05 PM (rUyw4)
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JJ there is freedom to criticize islam, it's just that a billion people don't like it. Sticks and stones etc, except when talking about muslims; they are superior to us if we are to believe their preachings.
Posted by: Jester at February 08, 2006 06:39 PM (2FYdV)
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Hmmmph! Yeah, well, I don't believe their teachings, and frankly, why should I? They come to the West from their hellholes and want to tell us what to say or do. My answer is for Muslims to go back to the hellholes they came from. It wouldn't take the deportment of 100 of these guys before we heard them singing a different tune. I'll bet you on that.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 08, 2006 06:48 PM (rUyw4)
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Offcourse there is freedom of speech in the Middle East, they are also free to criticise, insult and mock all other religions.
They are also free to call jews and americans, pigs and/or apes.
I'm surprised that there are female students in the UAE, oh my, things have changed, Arab women have brains, they are allowed to learn, truly shocking.
Posted by: MathewK at February 08, 2006 07:29 PM (pVHqF)
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Another paradox of this ongoing - how to say this - educational bias/prejudice. If one wishes to gain access to gainful employment, it has been/will be required to have spent considerable time and money in these American Universities. For without the entitlement granted in exchange for the substantial financial support contributed to these brainwashing specialists, the employment options narrow to a disparaging level. The option to feed the Jaba's at the top and everywhere in between seems non-existent.
Posted by: forest hunter at February 08, 2006 07:49 PM (Fq6zR)
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Check it out guys, apparently the cartoons were published in Eygpt in Oct 2005, with no reaction from anyone, also the newspaper running the holocaust cartoons already has pictures of Mo on its website, so much for not having pictures of him.
http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html
http://www.hamshahri.org/vijenam/javan/1384/841115/panke3.htm
Posted by: MathewK at February 08, 2006 10:56 PM (pVHqF)
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Shall we burn the Egyptian embassy down? Or should we demand they burn their own down? I mean, fair's fair, right?
Posted by: Oyster at February 09, 2006 05:26 AM (YudAC)
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February 07, 2006
Yankee Doodle Danish
Denmark is the only nation other than the United States that celebrates US Independence Day on July 4th
as a national holiday. I found out about this when I was a stamp collector and came across a series of Danish stamps celebrating US Independence, issued on July 4th. Kinda cool.
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Well hell, the things you never expect are the ones that are the best. I wish I had the convenience of moving to Denmark so I could partake in killing muslims there, but I don't think I'll have to wait long for it here.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 07, 2006 09:37 PM (0yYS2)
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Well ..., we did pull their asses outta' der Sch-ling, after-all.
At least someone appreciates our sacrifices.
Carlsburg, anyone?
Posted by: Pete at February 07, 2006 11:07 PM (6DvwA)
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Ol' Brooklyn wisdom -
That and two bucks will get ya on the subway.
Don't understand? - ask Bluto to translate.
Posted by: hondo at February 07, 2006 11:55 PM (3aakz)
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Well, it's a far cry from France deliberately excluding America from their own memorials celebrating the battle at Normandy.
The Dissident Frogman told us all about it in June '03.
Posted by: Oyster at February 08, 2006 06:42 AM (YudAC)
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I dunno, from what I understand Europeans use any excuse available to take a national holiday. Still though kinda nice.
Posted by: Jones at February 08, 2006 10:15 AM (SJ35d)
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Bad News: Statistics Show Strong Correlation Between Islam and Authoritarianism; Good News: Muslim Nations Becoming More Liberal After Bush
[Ed note: this post is a response to
Dean Esmay's post which shows that at least two Muslim countries are considered 'liberal democracies', the conclusion being that Islam is not antithetical to liberalism, and Rusty's response which
argues that a more meaningful measure would be to correlate the number of Muslims in a country with that country's freedom index. Demosophist and Rusty hash
out the methodological problems associated with this statistical analysis here.]
OK, I did some coding last night and obtained the latest Freedom House Indices for 2006 as well as some numbers for the percent of the population that's Muslim for 164 countries. Although I have some fairly consequencial objections to Rusty's methodology regarding this data, I thought I'd go ahead and run some correlations and a quick regression using both of the composite Freedom House indices that I calculated. (Basically it's just the mean of civil liberty and political freedom, so doesn't include press freedom.) I'm not sure how to present the regressions, but since they show essentially the same picture as the Pearson correlation coefficients I'll just post those first.
Correlation between % Muslims and the 2001 Freedom House Index = 0.6044
Correlation between % Muslims and the 2006 Freedom House Index = 0.5650
For those not familiar with correlation, anything over 0.5 is considered large. But things at least seem to be moving in the right direction. As one might expect since the regression is on only one variable it shows pretty much the same pattern as the correlations. The raw coefficient for the percent Muslim for 2001 is 0.031. That means that for each increase of 1% in the percentage of Muslims in the population the level of freedom goes down by 0.031 points on a scale of 7. (Roughly 1 in 200.) The relationship is also highly significant.
In other words, the relationship has positive slope. (Remember that the dependent variable isn't freedom, but repression, because the higher the score the less free the society.)
Now, using the 2006 index the coefficient for the percentage of Muslims goes down a bit, to 0.029. However both numbers are within a 95% confidence interval. For those used to thinking in terms of beta coefficients, the betas are mathematically identical to the Pearson coefficients above, for a simple regression like this. Unlike the raw coefficients these are scaled to variation, which is why they're called "standard coefficients." They provide a little better sense of what's going on: about 0.04 for 5 years, or about 0.01 per year. (I guess it depends on when you start counting.) That's not very much in absolute terms, but it'd be interesting to know whether it's greater or less than the previous 5 year period. Is the trend toward freedom in the Ummah accelerating or decelerating?
I used only one set of numbers for the percent Muslim, because it was all I could find. For anyone who'd like to duplicate this effort, and possibly retain a few more cases, the data are here. They're for 2005 so the change in percent Muslim from 2001 to 2006 probably doesn't explain why the coefficient has dropped, since the percentage of Muslims has been growing. For the 2001 regression the percentage of Muslims is overestimated, so the actual coefficient would he greater relative to the 2006 number that this analysis shows. In other words the resistance to freedom in the Muslim world may be dropping faster than this suggests. It's hard to say how much greater unless one finds the percent Muslim data for 2001, which I don't have. But assuming the drop is real and significant (the coefficient for a "dummy variable" for 2006 is negative and almost significant at the 90% confidence level with a coefficient for the percent Muslim of 0.30) it's reasonable to suppose that the change is either part of a long term trend toward freedom, or it's a result of policies followed by the US. At any rate this analysis certainly doesn't support the Left's notion that Bush is making things worse. (We sort of knew that though, right?)
The bottom line is that Islam puts up considerable resistance to civil and political freedom, but that resistance is at least not increasing over time, and it is probably decreasing.
Well, make of it what you will.
(Cross-posted to Demosophia)
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"The bottom line is that Islam puts up considerable resistance to civil and political freedom, but that resistance is at least not increasing over time, and it is probably decreasing."
No wonder the leftards are going batshit crazy now; they lost communism and fascism, and now they're losing islamofascism as well. They seem drawn to extremist ideologies for some reason, and islam is the last one that offers any sort of real threat to the West, so they're going to hang onto it tooth and claw.
If islam as a system is either decreasing or simply not increasing its resistance to reform, its most ardent adherents are definitely increasing their resistance, along with their primitiveness, violence, and savagery. Perhaps we are witnessing the swansong of islam, but the death throes are going to be hell if we don't do somthing soon.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 07, 2006 08:45 AM (0yYS2)
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If we bomb al-jazeera, does the freedom index go up or down?
Posted by: actus at February 07, 2006 09:13 AM (TEHSD)
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Neither, but everytime actus comments the intelligence index takes a nosedive.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 07, 2006 10:36 AM (rUyw4)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 07, 2006 11:39 AM (0yYS2)
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actus is the master of one line quips that may or may not be on-topic. I think he does it to convince himself of his moral superiority. It's the only affirmation he can get.
Posted by: Oyster at February 08, 2006 06:55 AM (YudAC)
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He's a legend in his own mind.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 08, 2006 02:45 PM (0yYS2)
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February 06, 2006
The Problem is 'Islamophobia'
Iran's official news agency
bemoans the spread of Islamophobia in Europe:
"Unfortunately, Islamophobia is currently spreading in Europe in different forms and at an alarming speed.
"Insult to Islamic values and Muslims' sanctity in the West has been now turned into a main challenge facing the Islamic nations now. It is vital to seriously confront this challenge," Mottaki said.
Meanwhile,
Reuters reports that Islamist thugs in a government-organized demonstration attacked the Austrian embassy in Teheran with Molotov cocktails.
The regrettable "Islamophobia" problem follows other evil Western obsessions like "Jew-burning-Naziphobia", "Mass-murdering-Communistphobia", and, of course, "Baby-blood-drinking-Mongolhordephobia".
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Islamophobia?
How about Scaredofgettingmyfuckingheadsawedoff-obia.
You goat lovers have some nerve. How about dirtybeardophobia?
How about terroristophobia?
Dudes, we don't like your holier than thru bullshit and the whole kidnapping,sawing of heads, terrorist stuff does nothing for your image either.
What if the rest of us started acting like you dirty muslims eh? Everytime we get "offended" we go on a rampage burning stores, consulates and threatening everyong who stinks like kabbab with a head sawing.
Posted by: FilthyAllah at February 06, 2006 12:28 PM (5ceWd)
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No, the problem is Islam. Islamophobia is not burning down embassies and threatening to kill people. And in some cases murdering people.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 06, 2006 12:33 PM (rUyw4)
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Would it be fair to say there is a fair amount of Catholic phobia in Iran?
DonÂ’t agree? Try passing the NIV bible out in Tehran. I bet you start running into phobias pretty quick.
Posted by: Brad at February 06, 2006 12:59 PM (3OPZt)
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>>> "Insult to Islamic values and Muslims' sanctity in the West has been now turned into a main challenge facing the Islamic nations now. It is vital to seriously confront this challenge," Mottaki said.<<<
Translation: "Say you like us or we'll kill you!"
Posted by: Graeme at February 06, 2006 01:05 PM (19Fdh)
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just seen sheik bakawi on british evening news say he wants to see the danish cartoonist executed after a muslim trial...............
Posted by: ian uk at February 06, 2006 01:16 PM (GhCfc)
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and he was complaining about liberal muslims being apologetic to the british people
Posted by: ian uk at February 06, 2006 01:23 PM (GhCfc)
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Danish Cartoonists, Super bowl Referees, Jeremy Stevens,
all should die after a Muslim trial.
Posted by: Sheik Bakawi at February 06, 2006 01:23 PM (3OPZt)
Posted by: ian uk at February 06, 2006 01:26 PM (GhCfc)
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bush is caught out lying about phone taps eh? hehe.
Posted by: ian uk at February 06, 2006 01:34 PM (GhCfc)
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I'll give the sons-o'-bitches a brand new phobia if they start getting uppity around here.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 06, 2006 01:35 PM (0yYS2)
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. In Afghanistan, The Associated Press reported four people were killed -- two of them when police fired on protesters trying to enter a U.S. airbase.
Danish cartoons == assault an American air base.
When is the MSM going to realize the Muslims use any excuse to create violence, often random and sporadic violence against anyone, or anything?
It's the same when the Muslims in France, claimed the Police killed Muslim youths and were "outraged" -- who got targetted? that's right French citizens cars and a pensioner who is set on fire.
Posted by: dave at February 06, 2006 01:46 PM (CcXvt)
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now the egyptian government is blaming bin laden for that ferry sinking.....
Posted by: ian uk at February 06, 2006 02:04 PM (GhCfc)
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HEY !!! let's not make any comparisons with buddhism. Buddhists have been at peace with the USA for more than 30 years.
Posted by: john ryan at February 06, 2006 02:06 PM (TcoRJ)
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Sorry, but a "phobia" is generally "an unreasonable fear".
If it's reasonable to be afraid, it's just good sense.
Posted by: mojo at February 06, 2006 02:08 PM (c/L4b)
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>It's the same when the Muslims in France, claimed the Police
>killed Muslim youths and were "outraged" -- who got
>targetted? that's right French citizens cars and a pensioner
>who is set on fire.
Or Muslims in the Netherlands. I just read about Moroccan youths who were angered and provoked when a police station was built next to a mosque in Amsterdam. One Moroccan guy they interviewed was certain that certain people in his neigbourhood would like to blow up the police station because of this affront.
Posted by: Miranda Vink at February 06, 2006 02:42 PM (MQICW)
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February 04, 2006
Former National Security Lawyer: 'FISA Unconstitutional'
Former National Security Lawyer and Central Intelligence Agency Officer
H. Bryan Cunningham has submitted a
24-page letter to Arlen Specter, Patrick Leahy, and ten other Congressional leaders that raises serious questions about the Constitutionality of the FISA law.
Taken to its logical extreme, the Critics' position would fundamentally alter the system of separation of powers and checks and balances created by our Constitution, transforming our governmental system into one in which Congress alone reigns supreme in virtually all spheres of governmental action
Cunningham served under both the Clinton and Bush administrations.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Probably true but essentially irrelevant in current argument. Is actions necessary and justified in time of war against enemy elements is what really matters.
All this does is start an argument over FISA and not AQ!!!
Posted by: hondo at February 04, 2006 11:43 AM (3aakz)
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Well it certainly would fly in the face of recent comments by some of our reps that if GWB wanted to wiretap with less impunity "all he had to do was ask".
What troubles me is that there are far too many issues where Congress
already makes too many new laws and decisions "without" the approval of "the people" as they act with their own impunity. Then we're left with little recourse as the money we give the ACLU, who should act in our defense, is spent defending terrorists and filing suits agaist every state in the union on perceived religious injustices.
Congress has been a quivering mass of liberalism and used the Supreme Court to uphold them. Maybe we're getting back to a real balance once more and back to constitutional basics.
Posted by: Oyster at February 04, 2006 01:09 PM (YudAC)
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